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Len-nbI haven't found any problems with the 32 bit ISO.05:31
Len-nbHave to put results in the daily tracker because there has been no no respin since RC.05:35
zequenceI need to do a bit of testing too. Getting close now. Only two days left06:14
smartboyhwGreat, another announcement to send!08:06
smartboyhwThe RC images is now in the ISO QA Tracker08:06
smartboyhwzequence, ^08:06
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #ubuntustudio-devel to: Ubuntu Studio Development Channel | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio | Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS is released: ISO- http://goo.gl/FEAxP Notes-http://goo.gl/29QaS | Please test the 13.04 RC images in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current | Release status in http://etherpad.ubuntu.com/2bq42lItlT
smartboyhwTo let everyone know:P09:02
smartboyhwzequence, how do you think about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/UbuntuStudio ?10:00
smartboyhwThat will be the release notes page.10:00
smartboyhwDarkEra, start testing!!!!!!!!!10:11
smartboyhwLOL10:11
smartboyhwhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds10:11
smartboyhwThe builds are here10:11
* smartboyhw points the above link to Len-nb too10:11
DarkErasmartboyhw, let me wake up first :P10:14
smartboyhwDarkEra, LOL (sorry);p10:14
DarkEra:D10:14
DarkErait's the final is guess that needs testing10:15
smartboyhwDarkEra, yep yep10:15
smartboyhwDarkEra, I do expect at least 1-2 respins.10:15
DarkEraoh, we have another one is see10:16
DarkEraok10:16
smartboyhwDarkEra, that's the official RC milestone10:16
smartboyhwSo the ISO in that link can possibly become the release image.10:16
DarkEraah yes, cool :)10:17
DarkEradownloading10:17
smartboyhwDarkEra, next time use zsync10:18
smartboyhwzsync is an extremely useful too10:18
smartboyhws/too/tool/10:18
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "zsync is an extremely useful tool"10:18
smartboyhwSo you don't need to download the whole ISO.10:18
* DarkEra facepalms10:19
DarkErasmartboyhw, thanks for the headsup10:19
DarkEra:)10:19
smartboyhwDarkEra, :)10:20
DarkEradidn't think about that at all10:20
smartboyhwDarkEra, in the directory where you placed the old ISO  type "zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/raring-dvd-amd64.iso.zsync"10:20
DarkErathat'll be for the next time because i don't have the old iso anymore... lol10:22
smartboyhwDarkEra, :O10:22
smartboyhwKeep it:)10:22
DarkErasmartboyhw, i will now10:31
smartboyhwDarkEra, :)10:32
DarkEraby the way, if you guys post something on the site, may it be news, releasenotes or something else, is it checked by others before it's posted?10:33
smartboyhwDarkEra, BTW 've a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/UbuntuStudio please:P10:36
smartboyhwThat's the draft for 13.04 final releasenotes10:37
smartboyhwDarkEra, normally I attain approval from zequence 10:37
DarkEraok, got ya :)10:38
smartboyhwzequence, I will go and add the hashes in the main website for 12.04.210:40
smartboyhwWill not add 12.10 since it's two DAYS from 13.0410:40
DarkErasmartboyhw, supercollider and faust are not as default in 13.04, lmms is10:51
smartboyhwDarkEra, eh!?10:52
* smartboyhw thinks zequence gave him that default list10:52
DarkErai checked through synaptic10:52
smartboyhwDamn it:P10:53
smartboyhwDarkEra, any more inconsistencies? i have edited the release notes page for that10:54
DarkErachecking and reading :)10:55
DarkEraone other thing i would change are the notes on the top, it's ok to say it's a non-lts release but i personally would leave out the "Not suitable" part because it applies more to beta/rc releases. Check that with zequence though, i'm just sharing my thoughts :)10:58
smartboyhwDarkEra, recommended?:P10:59
DarkErathe whole stuff under "Note: this is a non-LTS release"11:00
* DarkEra runs11:00
smartboyhw!?11:01
DarkErasmartboyhw, compare: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio11:01
DarkEra:)11:01
zequencesmartboyhw: I don't agree with the non LTS lines11:01
smartboyhwzequence, OK11:01
* smartboyhw removes!11:01
DarkErabrb, need food11:01
DarkEraheya zequence 11:01
zequencesmartboyhw: The only thing that is really important for users to understand IMO is that it will only be supported for 9 months11:02
smartboyhwzequence, done removing:)11:02
zequenceDarkEra: Hi11:02
smartboyhwzequence, I did write that down in the support section11:02
zequencesmartboyhw: Ok, good11:05
zequenceI think we should make a point out of this when we announce it11:05
smartboyhwzequence, any more problems with the release notes then?11:05
zequencesmartboyhw: I'll write a separate announce post for the final release, just so you knoqw11:06
smartboyhwzequence, \o/11:06
* smartboyhw likes that:P11:06
zequencesmartboyhw: I'm doing a bit of editing. Biggest one is removing the bug about headers11:07
smartboyhwzequence, OK11:07
DarkErathat looks better, great work guys11:09
zequenceI also removed the lines about the photography and publishing metas11:09
smartboyhwzequence, check11:09
smartboyhw:)11:09
zequencesmartboyhw: Ok. I also added a link for reading more about IRC at the bottom. Looks good to otherwise11:17
smartboyhwzequence, OK11:17
smartboyhw\o/11:17
smartboyhwzequence, I will now copy to ubuntustudio.org with a draft11:18
smartboyhwzequence, for the hashes do we want MD5 or SHA-1?11:18
zequenceI don't have a opinion about that actually. Is there any benefits with one over the other?11:19
smartboyhwzequence, dunno11:19
smartboyhwDarkEra, any experience in that?11:19
smartboyhwzequence, let me check what Ubuntu uses11:20
smartboyhwzequence, checked: It's MD5SUM for the official UbuntuHashes page11:21
DarkErayep, md5sum11:21
zequence"The underlying MD5 algorithm is no longer deemed secure, thus while md5sum is well-suited for identifying known files in situations that are not security related, it should not be relied on if there is a chance that files have been purposefully and maliciously tampered. In the latter case, the use of a newer hashing tool such as sha256sum is highly recommended"11:24
zequenceFrom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum11:25
smartboyhwzequence, but Ubuntu still uses it...11:25
zequenceYes, but it seems sha1sum is more secure11:25
zequencehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha1sum11:25
zequenceIt's used for git, among other things11:25
* smartboyhw thinks we could've started a debate in this:P11:26
zequenceI'm going to try the different methods to see the practical differences11:27
zequencebeforehand, sha256 seems like the most secure, even if that might be overkill for us. Let's see11:28
DarkErabbl, got some things to do11:47
zequencesmartboyhw: I'll take care of the download page. I'll change it for the release.11:49
zequencesmartboyhw: Or, if you really want to..11:49
zequenceWe meed to add a section for how to check the ISO once it's downloaded11:50
zequencemy zsync got stuck12:03
smartboyhwzequence, OK12:13
smartboyhwzequence, :IO12:14
smartboyhwzequence, stuck in where/12:14
smartboyhws///?/12:15
kubotusmartboyhw: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"12:15
smartboyhwLOl12:15
zequenceSHA256 seems to work ok. Didn't take long12:16
smartboyhwzequence, OK12:17
smartboyhwUse SHA256 then12:17
* smartboyhw hates looking at that LONG string of SHA25612:17
zequencesmartboyhw: Use diff12:17
smartboyhwzequence, I know:P12:17
zequenceI've hardly read mail for a few days. I'm working on filtering it with imapfilter, but I've never use LUA before, which is what you use to script the filtering12:20
zequenceShould work with any IMAP based mail account, so I'll probably add something to the wiki about how to filter large email subscriptions easily12:21
smartboyhwzequence, spams?:P12:21
zequenceemail services usually already have spam filters12:22
zequenceThis will mark things read that come from specific sources, and did not contain keywords12:23
smartboyhwzequence, don't subscribe to too many mailing lists:P12:23
zequencesmartboyhw: That is not an option, if you want to know what is going on in the world12:23
smartboyhwzequence, I mean "too many"12:23
smartboyhwNot "many"12:23
zequenceI will probably subscribe to more, once I have this easy filtering in place12:24
zequenceOne thing related to PR is being on top of what is going on on the web. So far, I've only started using some google alerts, but there must be other ways too12:25
smartboyhwzequence, :)12:25
* smartboyhw likes OMG! Ubuntu and WebUpd8 a lot:P12:25
zequencemaybe command line based web searching, with a memory of pages that has been found before, and possibly sending notices by email12:26
zequencebased on keywords12:26
zequencesort of like google alerts, but also finding old results, so first hits would probably be huge12:27
zequenceFound this on G+ when searching for "Ubuntu Studio" https://plus.google.com/communities/104372631743405201291/stream/9cad0868-396b-4183-8c43-dd398325ff5f12:29
smartboyhwzequence, whoa nice community12:29
zequenceHe uses something called hugin12:30
zequencehugin would add at least 40-50MB. From what it seems it's mostly used for creating panorama pics12:35
zequenceQuite a useful tool for the photography workflow, I would imagine12:36
zequenceSo, this is the kind of thing you could learn. But, also, you can find people who are doing interesting things. You could contact them for learning more about what they do. You could interview them, and post the interview on our sites12:36
zequenceBy using the technological tools we have available, since Ubuntu Studio is not exactly headline news, we can find information regarding Ubuntu Studio, and spread it throughout the community12:38
zequenceBoth towards developers, as well as users12:38
smartboyhwzequence, +112:39
smartboyhwHello len-1304 :)13:28
len-1304hello13:31
DarkErahi madeinkobaia 14:01
smartboyhwHey madeinkobaia :)14:01
madeinkobaiaHi all :)14:01
smartboyhwmadeinkobaia, how's the release banner?;P14:03
madeinkobaiasmartboyhw : I think it will be very simple finally, a round sticker with "13.04 available now !" I removed the "release" in sentence. 14:05
smartboyhwmadeinkobaia, sure do:)14:06
smartboyhwzequence, ^14:06
DarkEradon't make me curious :D14:06
madeinkobaiadarkera : Hope not :D14:07
madeinkobaiasmartboyhw :  Note that its a "multipurpose" banner, as it the same on FB and G+, I just need to find the right place who works on both. No big deal anyway ^^14:10
smartboyhwmadeinkobaia, :)14:10
smartboyhwDarkEra, expect resync of image, respin soon14:48
smartboyhwDue to Bug 1080701, IIRC14:48
ubottubug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108070114:49
DarkErasmartboyhw, ok thanks. I'll wait with testing the current one then i think14:49
smartboyhwThey only got in that fix just now:P14:49
smartboyhwDarkEra, I have an idea:14:49
smartboyhwGo to iso.qa.ubuntu.com14:49
smartboyhwAnd select "Raring Final" then "Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64"14:49
smartboyhwThere is a good option that makes you know when new (non-daily testing) builds are out14:50
smartboyhwTick all the options and press "Subscribe":)14:50
DarkErasmartboyhw, many thanks buddy. i'll look into that right away :)14:51
DarkEraerror.... gonna try again later14:52
smartboyhwDarkEra, :)14:54
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smartboyhwHey ttoine!16:21
ttoinehello guys !16:27
ttoineI am affraid to say guys... it means no girl...16:27
smartboyhwlol16:28
smartboyhwDarkEra: zsync time, the images are built.16:35
DarkErasmartboyhw, yay!! \o/16:35
DarkErablog is updated by the way16:36
smartboyhwDarkEra: But expect another respin soon I think (damn)16:39
smartboyhw(slangasek) cjwatson, xnox, stgraber: so there have been a number of reports coming in here at the end about the "remove the media and hit enter" message not showing up in raring.  I'm pretty sure nothing's changed in plymouth; maybe something has changed elsewhere to regress the special-case handling of getting the necessary files all loaded before unmounting? (bug #1171792, bug #1170421)16:39
ubottubug 1171792 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "message to remove external drive and press ENTER is hidden" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117179216:39
ubottubug 1170421 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Live session shutdown "hangs" (not showing "Please remove media ..." message)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117042116:39
smartboyhw.................16:39
smartboyhwDunno it might have been like that since Precise:O16:40
DarkErathat's ubuntu related, ubuntu studio showed that line and shut down from live session on my end16:40
DarkErai guess16:41
smartboyhwDarkEra:Oh great. It seems some people doesn't while some people do.16:41
DarkEracould be :)16:42
DarkErasmartboyhw, well, i haven't seen a respin yet so i guess we're all clear to test... ?21:21
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smartboyhwDarkEra: It has been respun...23:28
DarkErasmartboyhw, 20130423.1 is the latest i have through zync. Is there another one coming up then?23:30
smartboyhwDarkEra: probably not.23:31
DarkEraah ok, cool :)23:31

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