[05:31] <Len-nb> I haven't found any problems with the 32 bit ISO.
[05:35] <Len-nb> Have to put results in the daily tracker because there has been no no respin since RC.
[06:14] <zequence> I need to do a bit of testing too. Getting close now. Only two days left
[08:06] <smartboyhw> Great, another announcement to send!
[08:06] <smartboyhw> The RC images is now in the ISO QA Tracker
[08:06] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^
[09:02] <smartboyhw> To let everyone know:P
[10:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, how do you think about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/UbuntuStudio ?
[10:00] <smartboyhw> That will be the release notes page.
[10:11] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, start testing!!!!!!!!!
[10:11] <smartboyhw> LOL
[10:11] <smartboyhw> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds
[10:11] <smartboyhw> The builds are here
[10:11]  * smartboyhw points the above link to Len-nb too
[10:14] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, let me wake up first :P
[10:14] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, LOL (sorry);p
[10:14] <DarkEra> :D
[10:15] <DarkEra> it's the final is guess that needs testing
[10:15] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, yep yep
[10:15] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, I do expect at least 1-2 respins.
[10:16] <DarkEra> oh, we have another one is see
[10:16] <DarkEra> ok
[10:16] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, that's the official RC milestone
[10:16] <smartboyhw> So the ISO in that link can possibly become the release image.
[10:17] <DarkEra> ah yes, cool :)
[10:17] <DarkEra> downloading
[10:18] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, next time use zsync
[10:18] <smartboyhw> zsync is an extremely useful too
[10:18] <smartboyhw> s/too/tool/
[10:18] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "zsync is an extremely useful tool"
[10:18] <smartboyhw> So you don't need to download the whole ISO.
[10:19]  * DarkEra facepalms
[10:19] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, thanks for the headsup
[10:19] <DarkEra> :)
[10:20] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[10:20] <DarkEra> didn't think about that at all
[10:20] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, in the directory where you placed the old ISO  type "zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/raring-dvd-amd64.iso.zsync"
[10:22] <DarkEra> that'll be for the next time because i don't have the old iso anymore... lol
[10:22] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :O
[10:22] <smartboyhw> Keep it:)
[10:31] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, i will now
[10:32] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[10:33] <DarkEra> by the way, if you guys post something on the site, may it be news, releasenotes or something else, is it checked by others before it's posted?
[10:36] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, BTW 've a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/UbuntuStudio please:P
[10:37] <smartboyhw> That's the draft for 13.04 final releasenotes
[10:37] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, normally I attain approval from zequence 
[10:38] <DarkEra> ok, got ya :)
[10:40] <smartboyhw> zequence, I will go and add the hashes in the main website for 12.04.2
[10:40] <smartboyhw> Will not add 12.10 since it's two DAYS from 13.04
[10:51] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, supercollider and faust are not as default in 13.04, lmms is
[10:52] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, eh!?
[10:52]  * smartboyhw thinks zequence gave him that default list
[10:52] <DarkEra> i checked through synaptic
[10:53] <smartboyhw> Damn it:P
[10:54] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, any more inconsistencies? i have edited the release notes page for that
[10:55] <DarkEra> checking and reading :)
[10:58] <DarkEra> one other thing i would change are the notes on the top, it's ok to say it's a non-lts release but i personally would leave out the "Not suitable" part because it applies more to beta/rc releases. Check that with zequence though, i'm just sharing my thoughts :)
[10:59] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, recommended?:P
[11:00] <DarkEra> the whole stuff under "Note: this is a non-LTS release"
[11:00]  * DarkEra runs
[11:01] <smartboyhw> !?
[11:01] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, compare: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[11:01] <DarkEra> :)
[11:01] <zequence> smartboyhw: I don't agree with the non LTS lines
[11:01] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:01]  * smartboyhw removes!
[11:01] <DarkEra> brb, need food
[11:01] <DarkEra> heya zequence 
[11:02] <zequence> smartboyhw: The only thing that is really important for users to understand IMO is that it will only be supported for 9 months
[11:02] <smartboyhw> zequence, done removing:)
[11:02] <zequence> DarkEra: Hi
[11:02] <smartboyhw> zequence, I did write that down in the support section
[11:05] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ok, good
[11:05] <zequence> I think we should make a point out of this when we announce it
[11:05] <smartboyhw> zequence, any more problems with the release notes then?
[11:06] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'll write a separate announce post for the final release, just so you knoqw
[11:06] <smartboyhw> zequence, \o/
[11:06]  * smartboyhw likes that:P
[11:07] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'm doing a bit of editing. Biggest one is removing the bug about headers
[11:07] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:09] <DarkEra> that looks better, great work guys
[11:09] <zequence> I also removed the lines about the photography and publishing metas
[11:09] <smartboyhw> zequence, check
[11:09] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:17] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ok. I also added a link for reading more about IRC at the bottom. Looks good to otherwise
[11:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:17] <smartboyhw> \o/
[11:18] <smartboyhw> zequence, I will now copy to ubuntustudio.org with a draft
[11:18] <smartboyhw> zequence, for the hashes do we want MD5 or SHA-1?
[11:19] <zequence> I don't have a opinion about that actually. Is there any benefits with one over the other?
[11:19] <smartboyhw> zequence, dunno
[11:19] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, any experience in that?
[11:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, let me check what Ubuntu uses
[11:21] <smartboyhw> zequence, checked: It's MD5SUM for the official UbuntuHashes page
[11:21] <DarkEra> yep, md5sum
[11:24] <zequence> "The underlying MD5 algorithm is no longer deemed secure, thus while md5sum is well-suited for identifying known files in situations that are not security related, it should not be relied on if there is a chance that files have been purposefully and maliciously tampered. In the latter case, the use of a newer hashing tool such as sha256sum is highly recommended"
[11:25] <zequence> From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[11:25] <smartboyhw> zequence, but Ubuntu still uses it...
[11:25] <zequence> Yes, but it seems sha1sum is more secure
[11:25] <zequence> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha1sum
[11:25] <zequence> It's used for git, among other things
[11:26]  * smartboyhw thinks we could've started a debate in this:P
[11:27] <zequence> I'm going to try the different methods to see the practical differences
[11:28] <zequence> beforehand, sha256 seems like the most secure, even if that might be overkill for us. Let's see
[11:47] <DarkEra> bbl, got some things to do
[11:49] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'll take care of the download page. I'll change it for the release.
[11:49] <zequence> smartboyhw: Or, if you really want to..
[11:50] <zequence> We meed to add a section for how to check the ISO once it's downloaded
[12:03] <zequence> my zsync got stuck
[12:13] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[12:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, :IO
[12:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, stuck in where/
[12:15] <smartboyhw> s///?/
[12:15] <kubotu> smartboyhw: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[12:15] <smartboyhw> LOl
[12:16] <zequence> SHA256 seems to work ok. Didn't take long
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[12:17] <smartboyhw> Use SHA256 then
[12:17]  * smartboyhw hates looking at that LONG string of SHA256
[12:17] <zequence> smartboyhw: Use diff
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, I know:P
[12:20] <zequence> I've hardly read mail for a few days. I'm working on filtering it with imapfilter, but I've never use LUA before, which is what you use to script the filtering
[12:21] <zequence> Should work with any IMAP based mail account, so I'll probably add something to the wiki about how to filter large email subscriptions easily
[12:21] <smartboyhw> zequence, spams?:P
[12:22] <zequence> email services usually already have spam filters
[12:23] <zequence> This will mark things read that come from specific sources, and did not contain keywords
[12:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, don't subscribe to too many mailing lists:P
[12:23] <zequence> smartboyhw: That is not an option, if you want to know what is going on in the world
[12:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, I mean "too many"
[12:23] <smartboyhw> Not "many"
[12:24] <zequence> I will probably subscribe to more, once I have this easy filtering in place
[12:25] <zequence> One thing related to PR is being on top of what is going on on the web. So far, I've only started using some google alerts, but there must be other ways too
[12:25] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[12:25]  * smartboyhw likes OMG! Ubuntu and WebUpd8 a lot:P
[12:26] <zequence> maybe command line based web searching, with a memory of pages that has been found before, and possibly sending notices by email
[12:26] <zequence> based on keywords
[12:27] <zequence> sort of like google alerts, but also finding old results, so first hits would probably be huge
[12:29] <zequence> Found this on G+ when searching for "Ubuntu Studio" https://plus.google.com/communities/104372631743405201291/stream/9cad0868-396b-4183-8c43-dd398325ff5f
[12:29] <smartboyhw> zequence, whoa nice community
[12:30] <zequence> He uses something called hugin
[12:35] <zequence> hugin would add at least 40-50MB. From what it seems it's mostly used for creating panorama pics
[12:36] <zequence> Quite a useful tool for the photography workflow, I would imagine
[12:36] <zequence> So, this is the kind of thing you could learn. But, also, you can find people who are doing interesting things. You could contact them for learning more about what they do. You could interview them, and post the interview on our sites
[12:38] <zequence> By using the technological tools we have available, since Ubuntu Studio is not exactly headline news, we can find information regarding Ubuntu Studio, and spread it throughout the community
[12:38] <zequence> Both towards developers, as well as users
[12:39] <smartboyhw> zequence, +1
[13:28] <smartboyhw> Hello len-1304 :)
[13:31] <len-1304> hello
[14:01] <DarkEra> hi madeinkobaia 
[14:01] <smartboyhw> Hey madeinkobaia :)
[14:01] <madeinkobaia> Hi all :)
[14:03] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, how's the release banner?;P
[14:05] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw : I think it will be very simple finally, a round sticker with "13.04 available now !" I removed the "release" in sentence. 
[14:06] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, sure do:)
[14:06] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^
[14:06] <DarkEra> don't make me curious :D
[14:07] <madeinkobaia> darkera : Hope not :D
[14:10] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw :  Note that its a "multipurpose" banner, as it the same on FB and G+, I just need to find the right place who works on both. No big deal anyway ^^
[14:10] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, :)
[14:48] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, expect resync of image, respin soon
[14:48] <smartboyhw> Due to Bug 1080701, IIRC
[14:49] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, ok thanks. I'll wait with testing the current one then i think
[14:49] <smartboyhw> They only got in that fix just now:P
[14:49] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, I have an idea:
[14:49] <smartboyhw> Go to iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[14:49] <smartboyhw> And select "Raring Final" then "Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64"
[14:50] <smartboyhw> There is a good option that makes you know when new (non-daily testing) builds are out
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Tick all the options and press "Subscribe":)
[14:51] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, many thanks buddy. i'll look into that right away :)
[14:52] <DarkEra> error.... gonna try again later
[14:54] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[16:21] <smartboyhw> Hey ttoine!
[16:27] <ttoine> hello guys !
[16:27] <ttoine> I am affraid to say guys... it means no girl...
[16:28] <smartboyhw> lol
[16:35] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: zsync time, the images are built.
[16:35] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, yay!! \o/
[16:36] <DarkEra> blog is updated by the way
[16:39] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: But expect another respin soon I think (damn)
[16:39] <smartboyhw> (slangasek) cjwatson, xnox, stgraber: so there have been a number of reports coming in here at the end about the "remove the media and hit enter" message not showing up in raring.  I'm pretty sure nothing's changed in plymouth; maybe something has changed elsewhere to regress the special-case handling of getting the necessary files all loaded before unmounting? (bug #1171792, bug #1170421)
[16:39] <smartboyhw> .................
[16:40] <smartboyhw> Dunno it might have been like that since Precise:O
[16:40] <DarkEra> that's ubuntu related, ubuntu studio showed that line and shut down from live session on my end
[16:41] <DarkEra> i guess
[16:41] <smartboyhw> DarkEra:Oh great. It seems some people doesn't while some people do.
[16:42] <DarkEra> could be :)
[21:21] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, well, i haven't seen a respin yet so i guess we're all clear to test... ?
[23:28] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: It has been respun...
[23:30] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, 20130423.1 is the latest i have through zync. Is there another one coming up then?
[23:31] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: probably not.
[23:31] <DarkEra> ah ok, cool :)