[04:05] <min|dvir|us> Hey. I can't for the life of me figure out what's going on.
[04:05] <min|dvir|us> I have system/capture_1 and _2 connected to system/playback_1 and _2 respectively and I can hear it.
[04:05] <min|dvir|us> But plugging capture_1 and _2 into guitarix does nothing. Guitarix recognizes no input.
[05:46] <zequence> min|dvir|us: Guitarix has two modules. The pre amp, and the amp. Sure you're connecting to the right module?
[05:48] <min|dvir|us> Yep. I solved my problem BTW.
[05:48] <min|dvir|us> Crazy problem.
[05:48] <min|dvir|us> The line in is stereo, but my guitar is mono.
[05:49] <min|dvir|us> The two signals were canceling out, making silence.
[05:49] <min|dvir|us> Each signal worked fine in independence.
[14:03] <holstein> min|dvir|us: thats how it should be
[14:04] <holstein> you can think of the card as having 2 channels, not necessarily being stereo
[14:04] <holstein> right and left are just what the 2 channels are typically assigned to
[14:04] <min|dvir|us> holstein: clearly that's how it should be, because that's how it is. :P
[14:04] <holstein> you could just as easily have 2 guitars or guitar and voice going through the 2 channels
[14:05] <holstein> internal cards like that are not intended for creating content anyways
[14:06] <min|dvir|us> Why do you think I'm on an internal card?
[14:06] <holstein> i only say this to emphasize that you never had a problem
[14:12] <zequence> Well, there was a phase cancellation problem
[14:12] <zequence> But, I wonder how that came about
[14:13] <zequence> min|dvir|us: You were the one who had a Pod XT, right?
[14:13] <min|dvir|us> Nah.
[14:13] <min|dvir|us> I'm wiring directly into my sound card.
[14:13] <zequence> oh, must have mixed you up with someone else then
[14:15] <holstein> i see folks who take an mp3 player, and go from a 1/4" balanced jack to a mono input on a guitar amp ...you kind of have the opposite going on
[14:15] <min|dvir|us> I have my guitar connected to a 1/4" mono cable, which is connected to a stereo 1/4"-3.5mm converter, which is connected to my line in.
[14:15] <holstein> at least its something easy to deal with
[14:16] <holstein> min|dvir|us: when i used to use that setup, i had a little cheap-o beringer mixer
[14:16] <min|dvir|us> Why?
[14:16] <holstein> i had the stereo outs of the cheap mixer routed to the card properly
[14:16] <min|dvir|us> Oh, for stereo?
[14:16] <holstein> then, i could plug into the mixer and pan, and isolate the inputs
[14:17] <holstein> also, i had preamps onboard that were not awful
[14:17] <min|dvir|us> I'd rather do that in software.
[14:17] <holstein> min|dvir|us: you cant
[14:17] <holstein> min|dvir|us: you have inproper equipment getting into the machine
[14:17] <min|dvir|us> Doing a proper job. :)
[14:17] <holstein> improper
[14:17] <holstein> min|dvir|us: enjoy then
[14:18] <min|dvir|us> I just wish I could find some djenty guitarix presets.
[14:18] <holstein> otherwise, id be happy to talk to you about how with $40 or so US, you could drastically inprove your signal path
[14:18] <min|dvir|us> I don't see what's wrong with it.
[14:18] <holstein> coll
[14:18] <holstein> cool*
[14:19] <holstein> as i said, enjoy!
[14:19] <min|dvir|us> That's a question. What's wrong with it?
[14:19] <zequence> min|dvir|us: You're splitting up a mono signal into two, which means you add a lot of noise to it. You'd benefit from using a mixer
[14:19] <holstein> if you feel there is anything "wrong" with it later, i'll be glad to discuss
[14:19] <min|dvir|us> zequence: how does that add noise?
[14:19] <holstein> min|dvir|us: if you get a chance, think about what a studio would do
[14:20] <holstein> min|dvir|us: they would *never* take a line in like that... nor be using a connection like you are
[14:20] <zequence> min|dvir|us: Each signal is lowered, and that means you have to raise gain. That also raises noise
[14:20] <min|dvir|us> I see, that's a great point.
[14:20] <holstein> adding a cheap mixer is a way to really raise the quality for not a lot of $$
[14:20] <min|dvir|us> Maybe if my 1/4"-3.5mm converter was mono.
[14:20] <holstein> in a studio, they might be using a DI box to a preamp.. though, they would ideally be putting a mic on a cabinet
[14:21] <holstein> im not suggesting you have to have a $4000 mic on a $2000 amp.. but, emulating the signal path to your machine can really improve things
[15:49] <DarkEra> http://mathiusquest.blogspot.be/2013/04/distro-change-testing-and-more.html
[15:50] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: What's that?
[15:50] <DarkEra> my blog
[15:50] <DarkEra> :)
[15:51] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: \o/
[15:51] <smartboyhw> zequence: ^
[15:53] <DarkEra> oops, i forgot to add a screenshot of 12.04
[15:53] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:53] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: You do realize this is the support channel? ;P
[15:54] <DarkEra> oh you tease xD
[16:11] <DarkEra> brb, need to make and upload a screenie of 12.04
[18:09] <shewardnadse_> hi folks
[22:20] <MaynardWaters> http://pastebin.com/reMajqcp
[22:21] <MaynardWaters> anyone interested in helping me out with a video driver issue?
[22:26] <zequence> MaynardWaters: AFAIK, xorg on 12.10 is not supported by AMD proprietary drivers
[22:28] <zequence> So, installing them won't work. This was the case before anyway
[22:28] <zequence> If you want proprietary drivers, I recommend 12.04
[22:28] <MaynardWaters> im on 12.04
[22:29] <MaynardWaters> im on vinilla ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:30] <MaynardWaters> snap im wrong, you are right this is 12.10
[22:30] <MaynardWaters> blash
[22:30] <zequence> I did forget that kernel 3.5 is backported to 12.10
[22:31] <MaynardWaters> ?
[22:31] <MaynardWaters> so are you saying that it wouldnt be useful for me to try 12.04 LTS?
[22:31] <zequence> That is why I assumed you were on 12.10
[22:31] <zequence> No, the kernel is not a problem. Just xorg
[22:31] <MaynardWaters> well you were right.
[22:31] <DarkEra> well, he is on 12.10 :)
[22:31] <MaynardWaters> do you know a simple way to roll back to an old xorg release?
[22:33] <zequence> Might be difficult. I haven't done a lot of wizardry between releases, and I've almost never went backwards. Only added packages from newer releases, which is common to do in Debian, when you want to try stuff from Experimental, etc
[22:34] <MaynardWaters> k