[00:07] <Unit193> gnome-user-guide and gnome-user-share also seem safe to remove, no needed rdepends (not sure about recommends.)  gnome-system-tools is needed by time-admin
[00:31] <bluesabre> in fact, the packaging should match this for dependencies: http://pastebin.com/2kKbiqqt
[00:31] <bluesabre> but I know the raring package doesn't
[00:31] <bluesabre> I fixed it in the stable ppa
[00:33] <knome> okay
[00:34] <bluesabre> I'm going to work on packaging so I can actually upload packages for r+1
[00:38] <knome> that's good
[00:48] <micahg> knome: it's too late to be playing with the seeds for non-critical reasons
[00:48] <knome> micahg, yeah, what i was thinking.
[00:49] <micahg> knome: poke me in early S and we can clean things up
[00:49] <knome> micahg, if some newish package changes brought us extra package though...
[00:49] <knome> will do :)
[00:49] <micahg> feel free to create WIs
[00:49] <micahg> unless it's breaking something at this point, since we jumped to 1GB ISO, let's let it be
[00:49] <knome> yep
[00:50] <micahg> skellat: I'm sorry, I saw the merge proposal and was hoping to have time to dig into why, it fell off my radar
[00:51] <skellat> It's all good
[11:01] <bluesabre> knome, should I tag catfish (ubuntu)?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bug/1171705
[11:02] <knome> bluesabre, i don't know
[11:02] <bluesabre> knome, you're supposed to know everything :(
[11:02] <knome> haha
[11:02] <Unit193> I tried that earlier.
[11:02] <knome> no, i don't know about the tagging customs in LP
[11:03] <bluesabre> then I will ask micahg ^ :)
[11:03] <knome> yeah, better do that
[11:03] <knome> but i think it might even be up to you how you want it tagged
[11:03] <knome> or the "Catfish developers"
[11:05] <bluesabre> I already have it marked correctly in the PPA, so its definitely ubuntu package related
[11:06] <bluesabre> People are really afraid of zeitgeist
[11:07] <bluesabre> Do they realize that gtk has its own built in recent-files that gets populated, and its not per-application
[11:07] <bluesabre> or should I keep that secret?
[11:07] <bluesabre> >.>
[11:08] <knome> heh
[11:08] <Unit193> I'm personally not exactly fond of it, just another thing running in the background that doesn't offer me much.
[11:09] <bluesabre> yeah, I get that aspect and agree
[11:10] <Unit193> Also don't need yet another thing to track, pretty sure it does it more than GTK. :P
[11:13] <bluesabre> it does, zeitgeist can log events, but I think a program has to enable it for that program to do that.  zeitgeist has an off switch, whereas if a gtk app uses recent files at all, they are stored.  You can test it out, just create an app that uses recent files menu and don't add a scope
[11:14] <bluesabre> maybe I should make everyone paranoid
[11:14] <bluesabre> :)
[11:14] <elfy> yep - carry on :)
[11:15] <bluesabre> nah, I'll behave, gotta go get ready for work anyway
[11:15] <bluesabre> bbl
[11:18] <Unit193> -rw-r--r-- 1 unit193 unit193 51 Jan 23 01:13 ./.local/share/recently-used.xbel > /dev/null 
[11:35] <bluesabre> ^ very paranoid person
[11:51] <Unit193> bluesabre: (I was actually kidding. :P )
[12:13] <bluesabre> :D
[12:13] <bluesabre> gotta go, seeya
[21:30] <Noskcaj> knome, When is the wiki, lp etc. going to be updated with me as head of testing? also, can you make me a release manager?
[21:31] <knome> 1) pointing you to our discussion last night; let's handle that after the release
[21:31] <knome> 2) too
[21:31] <knome> 1) no.
[21:32] <knome> i mean... why should you be the release manager?
[21:33] <Noskcaj> phill said i should be a RM, i don't even know what it means. and ok, i'll wait till after release
[21:33] <Noskcaj> i need to follow instructions less ;)
[21:34] <knome> no... i don't think it makes sense you would be the release manger
[21:34] <knome> *manager
[21:34] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:35] <knome> which instructions should you follow less?
[21:35] <Noskcaj> phill's
[21:38] <knome> well, you should realize he's not affiliated with xubuntu in any way, so you have to take his comments with a grain of salt
[21:41] <pleia2> it's also worth noting that we aren't particularly obsessed with titles here, in practice the project lead has tended to be the release manager, but folks in -release will listen/work with me too
[21:41] <knome> (or other long-
[21:42] <knome> ...term contributors)
[21:42]  * pleia2 nods
[21:42] <knome> also, for reference for others, i had a discussion with Noskcaj yesterday on the testing team generally
[21:43] <knome> since elfy is coming back and willing to help with testing too, i think it would make most sense if elfy and Noskcaj worked with testing together, elfy mentoring Noskcaj where needed
[21:43] <knome> (also asked elfy if that's ok for him, and he acked)
[21:44] <knome> i imagine this would be the best solution for all parties
[21:44] <pleia2> teams++
[21:45] <knome> i suppose that would also ultimately mean that elfy would be the (main) QA contact/lead
[21:45] <knome> (being the mentor)
[21:45] <Unit193> You spelled "Tormentor" wrong again.
[21:45] <bluesabre> every time
[21:45] <knome> but as pleia2 said, we're not obsessed with titles...
[21:45] <bluesabre> -.-
[21:46] <knome> but i don't want to rush to any decisions/nominations whatsoever before the election
[21:46] <knome> Unit193, hah.
[22:04] <Noskcaj> knome, ok
[22:08] <Noskcaj> in the installer, does anyone now what "Retrieving file 40 of 102" would be retrieving? it's always a huge download
[22:12] <knome> Noskcaj, have you looked what it says under "details" ?
[22:20] <Noskcaj> something to do with "CRON"