[00:00] <ScottK> So it's not my call if it gets on.
[00:00] <TheLordOfTime> any kubuntu bug  handlers/devs able to answer a question regarding a bug from -bugs
[00:00] <TheLordOfTime> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172059
[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> question was whether that would be fixed by release.
[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> (in #ubuntu-bugs)
[00:01] <Noskcaj> TheLordOfTime, i asked that in many channels so everyone knew about the bug
[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> Noskcaj, then !crosspost
[00:02] <ScottK> Noskcaj: Please don't cross post like that.
[00:02] <Noskcaj> ok
[00:02] <TheLordOfTime> !crosspost > Noskcaj
[00:02] <ScottK> TheLordOfTime: "Maybe".
[00:02] <TheLordOfTime> ScottK, that's what I was going ot say, but I handle universe packages for bugs more, so... :P
[00:02] <TheLordOfTime> didn't feel adequately experienced with the bug/package to answer :)
[00:02] <ScottK> Sure.
[00:02]  * TheLordOfTime returns to poking php5-universe (a test package)
[00:03]  * TheLordOfTime returns to poking php5-universe (a test package, in a PPA)  *
[00:04] <smartboyhw> I think the ubiquity fix must get in before Thursday...
[00:04] <ScottK> We can debate it once we have a fix.
[00:05] <smartboyhw> OK.
[00:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what format is the .img file?
[00:21] <shadeslayer> ext4? 
[00:21] <shadeslayer> because I can't mount it
[00:50]  * ScottK can't replicate Noskcaj's bug so far.
[00:52] <Noskcaj> ScottK, e.g. type "hello" as the first encryption code, "potato" as the next. i will tell you they are not matching, but you will still be able to click next
[00:53] <ScottK> Noskcaj: Is this for full disk encryption or home directory encryption?
[00:53] <Noskcaj> full disk
[00:53] <ScottK> No wonder I couldn't reproduce.
[00:53] <ScottK> I tried the wrong one.
[00:53] <Noskcaj> :)
[00:53] <Noskcaj> balloons found the bug originally, didn't have time to report
[04:01] <ScottK> Quintasan: Did you get a chance to look at fixing the password check bug?
[04:10] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1171238] plasma-desktop randomely crashes - but only on 64 bit. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1171238 (by Søren Holm)
[04:22] <ScottK> If it's only on 64 bit, that's not entirely random, is it.
[05:22] <ScottK> apachelogger: I tested an installation in French and it worked out very nicely.
[05:27] <ScottK> Riddell: AFAIK,  bug 1172059 is the only hot item (that and more testing).  I'm off to bed.
[09:07] <Riddell> good morning happy testers
[09:08] <tazz> hey Riddell, how's life? :)
[09:08] <Riddell> pure dead radge
[09:09] <Riddell> tazz: able to help the image testing today for release tomorrow?
[09:10] <tazz> Riddell, I could try after I get home from work. Point is I don't know when I'll get home. :D Woes of working for a startup.
[09:10] <Riddell> any time you can is good
[09:11]  * tazz regularly feels guilty about not being able to contribute enough to kde/kubuntu.
[09:12] <sadandblue> Riddell: Is testing in virtualbox or something similar helpful? 
[09:12] <Noskcaj> sadandblue, Yep
[09:13] <sadandblue> Noskcaj: Cool-thanks, will have a look in a bit
[09:13] <Noskcaj> sadandblue, if you run out of testing, try and work on bug 1172059. it's a rather big one
[09:14] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: I think Quintasan is working on that bug.
[09:14] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, oh yeah, i think he said something about that
[09:17] <xnox> Noskcaj: Quintasan: I have a patch for above ^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597866/ testing to see if that works.
[09:20] <sadandblue> Ah, the bug I reported yesterday happens when you cancel the Create Partition dialogue and open it again
[09:21] <Noskcaj> sadandblue, ???
[09:21] <xnox> nah. not enough.
[09:21] <Noskcaj> xnox, :(
[09:23] <sadandblue> Noskcaj: Just testing it again now, my bug report was a bit crappy so going to add more details - but if you go to partition manually, then click cancel and go to partition again, the Use as drop down has duplicates for each file system type.
[09:24] <xnox> Ok testing this patch now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597880/
[09:24] <Noskcaj> sadandblue, interesting, link me when you're done and add a screenshot. i had a similar thing earlier this cycle
[09:25] <sadandblue> Noskcaj: Thanks, will do
[09:26] <Noskcaj> xnox, please work, please work, please work.
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Don't repeat:P
[09:34] <sadandblue> Noskcaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1171989
[09:34] <smartboyhw> :O
[09:38] <Noskcaj> sadandblue, i'll confirm it and add it to the iso tracker
[09:47] <xnox> This seems to work for bug 117259 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597907/
[09:47] <xnox> This seems to work for bug 1172059 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597907/
[09:47] <xnox> that is.
[09:49]  * Noskcaj does happy dance
[09:50] <smartboyhw> \o/
[09:53] <Riddell> cor, you rock xnox 
[09:53] <Riddell> but now we have to decide about respinning
[09:53] <Riddell> xnox: any other ubiquity upload needs that you know of?
[09:55] <xnox> Riddell: not at the moment but we are debating other encryption bugs.
[09:55] <xnox> Riddell: let me merge propose the ubiquity fix, first.
[09:55] <xnox> Riddell: and then release team will decide.
[09:56] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: Any time for fix of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1171989 too!
[09:56] <smartboyhw_> ?
[09:56] <smartboyhw_> xnox: ^
[09:57] <xnox> Riddell: you should join #ubuntu-installer tbh.
[10:09] <sadandblue> Noskcaj: maybe something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597947/ would fix it, but I don't know python really.
[10:12] <Noskcaj> i know very little python either, but that should work. can someone test it
[10:12] <Noskcaj> also, #ubuntu-installer might be a better place to discuss it
[10:16] <Noskcaj> i just double checked, the bug is kubuntu only
[10:19] <sadandblue> Noskcaj: Ah cool
[10:33] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka)
[11:07] <apachelogger> ScottK: yay
[11:08] <smartboyhw_> apachelogger: Oh?
[11:15] <Riddell> ug, I try to test the upgrade and now do-release-upgrade doesn't think there is one :(
[11:17] <vista_killer> how can i upgrade to 13.04?
[11:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hah, that's fun
[11:17] <Riddell> vista_killer: what are you running?
[11:17] <vista_killer> the previous version
[11:18] <Riddell> vista_killer: put this into /etc/hosts   212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com
[11:18] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[11:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does the upgrader use IP's ? :O
[11:18] <shadeslayer> hardcoded IP's
[11:19] <Riddell> and run  kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE -d"
[11:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it checks changelogs.ubuntu.com for new releases
[11:19] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: :O
[11:19] <vista_killer> and after i have to remove this ip?
[11:19] <shadeslayer> uh, then why the IP?
[11:19] <Riddell> where it means muon or the muon-updater kded module
[11:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: cos that makes it read from my server which I put a copy of meta-release with raring marked as released
[11:20] <shadeslayer> aha
[11:20] <Riddell> only way to test the whole thing
[11:20] <shadeslayer> I see
[11:20] <Riddell> nobody does it except me as noted by the breakage in muon I'm testing now
[11:20] <shadeslayer> all the meta-release stuff seems like magic to me
[11:20] <shadeslayer> hehe
[11:21] <shadeslayer> I can only test upgrades from do-release-upgrade using the command line installer 
[11:21] <smartboyhw_> hehe
[11:21] <vista_killer> because i remember that in previous versions i have to run 'update-manager -c -d' and iot works
[11:21] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: That's a fail:P
[11:22] <vista_killer> now this is not working
[11:23] <Riddell> Mamarok: what's informant.kde.org ?
[11:24] <Mamarok> Riddell: why do you ask?
[11:25] <shadeslayer> seems like build.kde.org ?
[11:26] <Mamarok> ah, now I understand why, that is apparently the server for the ZNC bouncer, at least I guess so
[11:26] <shadeslayer> ah heh :P
[11:27] <Riddell> Mamarok: cos I'm nosey :)
[11:27] <Riddell> ZNC? some irc proxy thing?
[11:28] <Mamarok> an IRC bouncer, yes
[11:37] <Riddell> why the hell does `kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE"` work fine to upgrade but `do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE` doesn't?!
[11:37] <Riddell> kdesudo should hardly make a difference to whether it thinks there is an upgrade to be done or not
[11:39] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: I thought you MUST have sudo to run do-release-upgrade
[11:39] <shadeslayer> ^^
[11:50] <ScottK> BTW, the new installer looks very nice.
[11:50] <smartboyhw_> ScottL
[11:50] <smartboyhw_> Damn
[11:50] <Riddell> yes, good stuff from agateau and sheytan
[11:50] <smartboyhw_> ScottK: :)
[11:51] <Riddell> xnox: where's the ubiquity slideshow you wanted to have screenshots of it at?
[11:51] <smartboyhw_> A problem: ScottK is a Kubuntu Council member while ScottL is Ubuntu Studio's ex-project lead. I may get that wrong...
[11:52] <smartboyhw_> I mean when typing in IRC mobile
[11:52] <Riddell> just remember our Scott comes first, alphabetically, chronologically and awesomeically
[11:53] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: That's true:P
[11:53] <ScottK> Riddell: I should be able to retest i386 today if we respin.
[11:54] <Riddell> muon has a wee python script that checks for if version upgrades are there called releasechecker.  if I run `python3 releasechecker` it says no, if I run `sudo python3 releasechecker` it says yes
[11:54] <Riddell> what the hell?
[11:54] <ScottK> smartboyhw_: I was here first.
[11:54] <smartboyhw_> ScottK: Yeah:P
[11:55] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: I really think do-release-upgrade needs sudo
[11:55] <yofel> it does
[11:56] <Riddell> not to just check for the existance of an upgrade surely?
[11:56] <Riddell> it worked fine in muon yesterday
[11:56] <Riddell> and it hasn't been changed in JontheEchidna's patch
[11:57] <Riddell> sigh, anyone else on quantal able to test?
[11:57] <ScottK> Looking
[11:58] <ScottK> But it'll be a few minutes
[11:59] <sadandblue> Riddell: I can test in a vm if you'd like, will take a bit to download the quantal iso though
[12:00] <Riddell> sadandblue: would be good thanks
[12:03] <sadandblue> Riddell: Oki-will go dl the iso
[12:05] <yofel> Riddell: do I need your IP setting to test that?
[12:05] <Riddell> yofel: yep
[12:05] <Riddell> but I think I got it
[12:05] <Riddell> it's cached in /home/jr/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release
[12:05] <Riddell> damn that's sneaky
[12:06] <yofel> why would it cache that o.O
[12:06] <smartboyhw_> o.O
[12:06] <smartboyhw_> O.o
[12:07] <Riddell> I found the cache in /var/lib/update-manager/ and thought that was my problem
[12:07] <Riddell> but there's a second cache hidden away
[12:07] <Riddell> what a mystery
[12:07] <Riddell> and wouldn't that affect everyone doing the upgrade for real?
[12:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Works for me either way.
[12:08] <Riddell> ScottK: using muon-updater?
[12:08] <Riddell> oh just the command line
[12:08] <ScottK> Yes.  Just the command line.
[12:24] <Riddell> xnox: are you into update-manager? any idea why it caches the meta-release file and wouldn't that affect the notification when the time comes?
[12:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I suspect cjwatson knows
[12:25] <xnox> Riddell: can you please ask on #ubuntu-release about that instead.
[12:30] <Riddell> 13:28 < cjwatson> It catches up eventually, and it's good to spread out the load a bit
[12:30] <Riddell> oh well
[12:33] <Riddell> umm
[12:33] <Riddell> kded(4969): The kded module name ' "muon-notifier" ' is invalid! 
[12:33] <Riddell> sigh, another issue
[12:34] <xnox> Riddell: most of release team are not on this channel, and it's important 
[12:34] <Riddell> xnox: the cache issue I think colin's answer is good enough, now I'm moving on to muon stuff
[12:35] <ScottK> Riddell: Is that a raring issue or a quantal issue?
[12:36] <Riddell> ScottK: which?
[12:36] <ScottK> The kded naming
[12:36] <Riddell> ScottK: that's quantal, testing the SRU, but it seems to have just fixed itself
[12:36] <ScottK> OK.
[12:36] <Riddell> maybe more caching, caches are so annoying to testers :)
[12:36] <ScottK> I'm doing the same.
[12:37] <ScottK> I've got the "A new version of Kubuntu" prompt.  Any reason I shouldn't dive in and upgrade (i.e. you think we need to fix it harder)?
[12:38] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[12:39] <sadandblue> Weird, virtualbox seems to hang firefox 0.o
[12:39] <Riddell> ScottK: that's a good thing, go ahead and upgrade
[12:39] <ScottK> OK.
[12:45] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: no fix for raring?
[12:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Worked here.  Upgrade in progress.  If you can verify it works for you (in the bug please), I'll waive the 7 day wait and push it to updates.
[12:46] <Riddell> ScottK: done
[12:48] <ScottK> Riddell and JontheEchidna: muon update released for quantal.
[12:48] <Riddell> ScottK: I think I'll upload the same patch to raring, that'll only bite us next release if we miss it
[12:48] <Riddell> ScottK: yay, thanks!
[12:49] <ScottK> Riddell: Definitely, but let's leave it in queue until after release.
[12:49] <ScottK> Actually, we can just unblock it, no reason not to let it build.
[12:49] <ScottK> err ... not unblock ...
[12:49] <sadandblue> Riddell: Do you still need the upgrade testing? The 12.10 iso finally finished downloading
[12:50] <ScottK> More is better.
[12:50] <ScottK> sadandblue: There's an upgrade (image) test case that no one has done.
[12:50] <Riddell> sadandblue: yes please
[12:59] <sadandblue> ScottK, Riddell: Is it assumed that people will update from an up to date system?
[12:59] <ScottK> yes
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:00] <Riddell> sadandblue: well it won't work if they don't but we will have to make that clear in the upgrade instructions
[13:02] <sadandblue> ScottK, Riddell: Cool thanks-I tried without updating and do-release-upgrade threw an exception, so I'll update and then do it
[13:16] <smartboyhw> What did I miss!
[13:16] <smartboyhw> ?
[13:22] <sadandblue> Hmm "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-richard" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0." is that harmless?
[13:27] <yofel> you're running something as sudo and it's complaining that the cache folder isn't owned by root
[13:27] <yofel> using kdesudo should fix that
[13:29] <sadandblue> yofel: Hmm I ran the command through kdesudo - testing an upgrade
[13:30] <yofel> hm. ignore it then, it shouldn't break anything
[13:30] <sadandblue> yofel: Okay shall do
[13:47] <sadandblue> Riddell: I tested the AMD64 upgrade from 12.10-worked fine aside from the uid thing I mentioned earler.
[13:50] <smartboyhw> sadandblue: Report your result!
[13:51] <sadandblue> smartboyhw: Oki shall do
[13:58] <Riddell> sadandblue: yep add it to iso.qa.ubuntu.com thanks
[13:59] <ScottK> Seems I survived the upgrade.
[13:59] <Riddell> you should get a tshirt that says that
[14:01] <smartboyhw> Riddell: LOL
[14:03] <sadandblue> Riddell, smartboyhw: dumb question - I can't see the upgrade testcases, am I looking in the wrong spot?
[14:04] <Riddell> sadandblue: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ -> final -> control-f upgrade
[14:04] <Riddell> should get them
[14:06] <sadandblue> Riddell: Ah thanks, I'd used the filter thing and set it to just kubuntu ><
[14:06] <Riddell> sadandblue, ScottK: I find the plasma theme is a bit broken after upgrade, yet another cache foo I guess, do you see the same?
[14:06] <ScottK> No.  Looks nice.
[14:08] <sadandblue> Riddell: Nope, it looked fine for me.
[14:08] <Riddell> hmm, must be my bad luck cache day
[14:08] <smartboyhw> Riddell: You have too many caches:P
[14:09] <Riddell> the downfall of many an economy
[14:09] <Riddell> but as I say you're welcome to get this Hong Kong gold I have cached away in my school attic any time :)
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Riddell: :O
[14:11] <ScottK> Probably not the best joke to make on a channel that's publicly logged in perpetuity.
[14:12] <smartboyhw> ScottK: +1
[18:13]  * Riddell out for a couple of hours
[18:18] <sadandblue> Wow, going back to c++ after a huge gap seems weird:/
[18:36] <ScottK> Can someone test this upgrade: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42840/testcases/1498/results
[18:44] <sadandblue> ScottK: I should be able to in a bit-will need to download the iso for 12.10 first though
[18:45] <ScottK> sadandblue: Excellent.  Thanks.
[18:47] <superfly> btw, does anyone have any clues as to why plasma-desktop is crashing often? I've removed all my plasma configuration, and it still crashes
[18:49] <ScottK> I upgraded this morning and it hasn't crashed yet.
[18:49] <ScottK> Your best bet is to get a backtrace and file a bug on bugs.kde.org.
[18:49] <superfly> ScottK: been crashing for the last 2 months on both my home pc and work pc
[18:50] <superfly> started when I upgraded to 13.04
[18:50] <superfly> OK, I'll do that next time
[18:50] <ahoneybun> superfly: You'll need the packages to do that
[18:51] <superfly> ahoneybun: the debug packages?
[18:51] <ahoneybun> yes
[18:51] <ahoneybun> the symbols
[18:52] <superfly> yeah, I figured so (done it before)
[18:52] <superfly> I don't see a plasma-desktop-dbg package though... will look for some others
[18:53] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[18:53] <ahoneybun> Hey Riddell
[18:53] <ScottK> superfly: kde-workspace-dbg or so.
[18:54] <superfly> thanks ScottK
[18:59] <superfly> now watch it go without a crash for the rest of tonight -_-
[19:06] <yofel> ScottK: we cannot test the (image) upgrades, unless someone wrote the support for ubiquity's "upgrade" feature
[19:07] <ScottK> Oh.
[19:07] <ScottK> So the test case isn't applicable for us?
[19:08] <yofel> right:
[19:08] <yofel>     'Installation type' screen is displayed
[19:08] <yofel> Select the 'Upgrade ubuntu (or derivative name)' option 
[19:08] <yofel> we don't have that
[19:10] <shadeslayer> \o/
[19:10] <shadeslayer> adb is up on the Nexus 10
[19:10] <shadeslayer> with the ubuntu rootfs
[19:10] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[19:10] <ScottK> sadandblue: Nevermind.  That one isn't applicable for Kubuntu.
[19:11] <ScottK> yofel: Would you put something on trello about that for 13.10.
[19:11] <yofel> can do
[19:11] <ScottK> thanks
[19:16] <sadandblue> ScottK: Oh - okay:)
[19:18] <yofel> we should've removed the test case for that, but I guess everyone forgot about it
[19:18] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: you got it working?
[19:18] <shadeslayer> kind of
[19:19] <shadeslayer> adb is up
[19:19] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: progress is progress ;)
[19:19] <shadeslayer> Linux localhost.localdomain 3.4.5-gb44fbc0 #20 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 25 00:32:07 IST 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[19:19] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[19:19] <ahoneybun> nice man
[19:19] <superfly> yay! crash!
[19:19] <shadeslayer> unfortunately, can't use sudo
[19:19] <shadeslayer> so worthless
[19:19] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: can't install packages then
[19:20] <shadeslayer> yeah :(
[19:20] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: well still nice work
[19:20] <shadeslayer> mmm
[19:21] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: is there a android-tools package somewhere? so I can set it up to install the Kubuntu image on my Nexus 7
[19:22] <shadeslayer> not quite, there's various android tools that you can install
[19:22] <shadeslayer> but you have to flash manually
[19:23] <ahoneybun> I know but the ubuntu-nexus7-installer is downloading the images again
[19:24] <shadeslayer> yeah, that won't work
[19:24] <shadeslayer> that's for ubuntu-touch
[19:24] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Can't you chroot into it , install sudo or modify the config?
[19:24] <ahoneybun> why is it in the wiki
[19:25] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: that's what I'm doing, it uses the uid 2000
[19:25] <shadeslayer> so need to somehow give that uid sudo priviliges
[19:25] <Quintasan> there is no username associated with 2000?
[19:25] <Quintasan> or add privledges to a group
[19:26] <Quintasan> duh
[19:26] <shadeslayer> nope
[19:26] <Quintasan> %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[19:26] <Quintasan> sup
[19:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: What could go wrong?
[19:26] <Quintasan> ScottK: Everything!
[19:27] <shadeslayer> pft
[19:27] <Quintasan> If you have a better idea then share it with us :P
[19:27] <shadeslayer> actually, hah : %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[19:27] <shadeslayer> that's in /etc/sudoers
[19:27] <Quintasan> is that user in sudo group?
[19:28] <Quintasan> or is that user in any group?
[19:28] <shadeslayer> but the uid 2000 is not in the sudo group
[19:28] <shadeslayer> I'm waiting for lilstevie to reply as to what they did
[19:28] <shadeslayer> because in his image it just worked
[19:29] <Quintasan> waiting for solution? boring
[19:29] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: try adding  "2000 ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL"
[19:29] <Quintasan> Maybe you can refer to users by their ids
[19:29] <Quintasan> :P
[19:29] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: right now I have the userdata being flashed
[19:29] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:29] <shadeslayer> worth a try
[19:30] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: cool :)
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: logs indicate X is started
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: but I have nothing on the screen
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: nope  sudo: unknown uid 2000: who are you?
[19:31] <Quintasan> hmmmm
[19:31] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: heres hoping, so I just installed the android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot packages and I had the commands work anywhere
[19:31] <ahoneybun> now I'm waiting on the 717 MBs to be sent lol, so this will boot into Plasma Active and not Unity?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> depends on what you're flashing, if you used the GUI tools it'll most likely flash Unity
[19:32] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ALL   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[19:32] <Quintasan> :P
[19:32] <Quintasan> That's not safe at all
[19:32] <Quintasan> but who cares
[19:33] <ahoneybun> I got the image from the Kubuntu images that Riddell gave me
[19:34] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: Riddell would be a better person to ask
[19:34] <shadeslayer> I have no idea about the N7
[19:34] <ahoneybun> site says Kubuntu-Active so yes
[19:34] <ahoneybun> I know I just like to talk lol
[19:35]  * genii-around makes more coffee and continues tinkering in Gimp
[19:37] <shadeslayer> hah
[19:37] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: doesn't work :P
[19:37] <shadeslayer> anyway
[19:44] <ahoneybun> genii-around: I see the Kubuntu page on G+ is using my banner
[19:48] <Quintasan> HOW IT DOES NOT WORK
[19:48] <Quintasan> DURR
[19:49] <genii-around> ahoneybun: It's good work :)
[19:50] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: try ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[19:50] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:50] <shadeslayer> in a bit
[19:50] <shadeslayer> debugging why X doesn't start
[19:51] <genii-around> ahoneybun: My latest attempt  http://imagebin.org/255240
[19:51] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Put on the sunglasses first
[19:51] <Quintasan> genii-around: I wanted to say you have a very nice clock
[19:52] <Quintasan> [01:05:49] -*- genii-around 's clock tells him it's beer o' clock
[19:52]  * shadeslayer clicks and immediately goes blind
[19:52] <Quintasan> This be a great hour
[19:55] <genii-around> Quintasan: I like the logo in the tail like that like the lemur is hanging from it :)
[19:55] <genii-around> Although, yes, it does sort of look like one of those 1960s clocks a bit...
[20:16] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sudo: unknown uid 2000: who are you?
[20:16] <shadeslayer> xD
[20:16] <Quintasan> ...
[20:16] <shadeslayer> anyway
[20:16] <shadeslayer> I've had enough of this for tday
[20:16] <shadeslayer> *today
[20:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://zupa.quintasan.pl/post/308308312/Image
[20:19] <shadeslayer> haha
[20:21] <shadeslayer> I'm completely lost on why X doesn't start though
[21:17] <Riddell> evening
[21:17] <Riddell> still no images?
[21:21] <ScottK> waiting for stuff to get published.
[21:21] <Riddell> ScottK: oh? what's still needed?
[22:04] <Riddell> ooh!
[22:37] <Riddell> ug, oversized http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-live/20130424/
[22:59] <ScottK> Make the limit bigger.
[22:59] <ScottK> Who has a 1GB stick anyway.
[22:59]  * ScottK went and bought one recently and the smallest he could find was either 4 or 8.
[23:10] <genii-around> Meh. I have a box of the 1G sticks that I usually put images on and hand out at the release party.
[23:12] <ScottK> Probably not Kubuntu Active images.
[23:13] <genii-around> True, just the regular.
[23:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I'll be back in a few hours.
[23:22] <Riddell> yay!
[23:22] <Riddell> !testers | final ISO candidates!
[23:26] <Riddell> hi __dan__ 
[23:26] <__dan__> hi Riddell
[23:26] <Riddell> Please test Kubuntu 13.04 RCs in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds
[23:27] <Riddell> all help appreciated
[23:27] <Riddell> real machine or virtual
[23:27] <__dan__> awesome :)
[23:27] <Riddell> upgrade too
[23:27] <tyrog> indeed
[23:29] <Riddell> hi smartboyhw, able to help testing?
[23:31] <__dan__> just reading about the muon upgrade bug, checking my version hehe
[23:32] <smartboyhw> Riddell: I am giving up this time. I have a damning Chinese History test tmr:(