[00:00] <zardoz__> i have 2 pc over a swith connected to a router, pc 1 is all ok, at pc 2 i get an error if i type "ping www.stern.de" -> ping: unknown host www.stern.de
[00:00] <zardoz__> i can do pings to each pc vice versa by hostname
[00:02] <amingv> zardoz__: do the PCs get their dns settings from the router or do you set it up manually?
[00:03] <zardoz__> amingv: they should get it from the router, but i think i manipulatet somthing, it worked all until i had to shutdown the pc.
[00:04] <zardoz__> amingv: how can i find out which way i use? resolv.conf or resolvconf or is both the same?
[00:05] <amingv> zardoz__: Is this a kubuntu install running a full kde session?
[00:05] <zardoz__> yes
[00:05] <amingv> because if it is then you should set your connections using network settings
[00:06] <amingv> not any of those config files
[00:06] <amingv> check System Settings>Network Settings
[00:07] <zardoz__> i am there
[00:07] <zardoz__> setting is base settings, automatic dhcp
[00:09] <amingv> try choosing address only and type in your dns address
[00:09] <zardoz__> ipv6 is deaktivatet
[00:09] <amingv> see if it makes a difference
[00:10] <amingv> don't worry about ipv6, most routers you'll find are ipv4
[00:11] <zardoz__> still dont work
[00:11] <zardoz__> did i have to restart something, like the network manager?
[00:12] <amingv> not really, settings are normally applied on the fly
[00:13] <amingv> did you get to make any changes to resolv.conf or other files?
[00:13] <zardoz__> yes
[00:13] <zardoz__> i read lots in the net and tried different things
[00:14] <amingv> do you have a backup of the file before the changes?
[00:14] <zardoz__> no
[00:16] <amingv> modified any other files besides resolv.conf?
[00:17] <zardoz__> yes
[00:17] <zardoz__> actual i try to get the changes back
[00:18] <amingv> resolv.conf will actually regenerate automatically
[00:18] <amingv> which others have you modified?
[00:18] <zardoz__> nsswitch
[00:18] <zardoz__> resolv.conf/base
[00:19] <zardoz__> resolv.conf/head
[00:19] <zardoz__> resolv.conf/tail
[00:19] <zardoz__>  /etc/network/interfaces
[00:19] <amingv> mkay that's quite a few :)
[00:20] <zardoz__> but i think they are now in original state
[00:21] <zardoz__> i can post the output of  "strace ping www.stern.de" if that would help
[00:21] <amingv> including /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:21] <zardoz__> yes
[00:22] <amingv> modifying that one will usually not allow the kde network manager to work properly
[00:22] <zardoz__> ok
[00:22] <zardoz__> is there any log file i can check?
[00:23] <amingv> i'm sure there is, but not sure which one
[00:24] <amingv> you can't go wrong with /var/log/syslog i guess
[00:24] <amingv> but anyway, if the files are back to normal i suppose you just need to restart networking services for it to work
[00:25] <zardoz__> i checked it but didnt found something helpfull
[00:25] <amingv> sudo service networking restart && sudo service resolvconf restart should do it
[00:28] <zardoz__> a little bit is working
[00:28] <amingv> yay progress :)
[00:28] <amingv> what do we have left?
[00:29] <zardoz__> i could see the ip adress of the domain once
[00:29] <zardoz__> but didnt work a second time
[00:30] <amingv> that's a bit odd
[00:30] <amingv> first let's set up kde network settings to full automatic again
[00:31] <amingv> dhcp settings, i mean
[00:32] <zardoz__> i did, but didnt work
[00:33] <zardoz__> i reboot the pc
[00:33] <jmichaelx> just upgraded one machine to raring... all i can say so far is 'yikes'
[00:34] <amingv> i guess it's worth a try
[00:35] <jmichaelx> kwin in raring is thrashing my CPU
[00:35] <zardoz__> i get strange errors now, rcu_sched detected stall on CPU 0, lol
[00:36] <amingv> huh? Are you stuck booting?
[00:38] <amingv> I would assume such an error would not be related to networking.
[00:38] <amingv> (or I would hope, anyway)
[00:41] <amingv> jmichaelx: what did you upgrae from? tried disabling compositing?
[00:41] <zardoz__> amingv: think its a problem with nfs
[00:42] <jmichaelx> amingv: i upgraded from quantal. no, i am trying to get the settings dialog to come up, but no success yet. kwin is using 100% CPU
[00:42] <jmichaelx> this is using an integrated intel GPU
[00:42] <zardoz__> amingv: YEAH, it is working!!!!!
[00:43] <amingv> zardoz__: What makes you think so, I don't think that should prevent you from reaching your dns.
[00:43] <amingv> zardoz__: Yay! Better not question the little blessings :)
[00:44] <zardoz__> BAD NEWS, didnt work again.......
[00:45] <amingv> jmichaelx: Ouch. Alt+Shift+F12 should toggle compositing
[00:45] <amingv> zardoz__: :(
[00:46] <zardoz__> it worked for a few seconds, then no dns
[00:46] <amingv> jmichaelx: But I agree 100% is too much, let me see if there's any relevant bug report.
[00:47] <jmichaelx> amingv: i have tried alt+shift+f12, but i think it's just unable to respond... i have ssh'd in, and am looking for a config file
[00:48] <Artakha> isn't it ctrl+alt+f12?
[00:48] <amingv> zardoz__: I can't imagine what would be causing that, is the network cable itself working properly. Do you have any way to check?
[00:48]  * amingv checks shortcut
[00:48] <Artakha> oh, no
[00:48] <Artakha> it's alt+shift+f12
[00:48] <amingv> yep
[00:48] <zardoz__> the cable is ok, i have another pc which is connected over a switch
[00:51] <jmichaelx> yea.... ctl+alt+f12 killed x server
[00:51] <jmichaelx> lol
[00:51] <amingv> zardoz__: I'm drawing a blank here.
[00:52] <jmichaelx> not sure why i tried that
[00:52] <amingv> zardoz__: Try from another account? Like the guest account?
[00:52] <zardoz__> dont know if there is another account
[00:53] <jmichaelx> i wish there were still a #kubuntu+1
[00:53] <amingv> jmichaelx: On the bright side the cpu crunching stopped, I guess :)
[00:53] <jmichaelx> amingv: no.... this is on a different machine
[00:53] <amingv> jmichaelx: Oh. That's bad then.
[00:55] <amingv> jmichaelx: maybe you can disable it before login
[00:56] <amingv> jmichaelx: with kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false
[00:56] <jmichaelx> crap. changing tty in quantal apparently crashes X (for me)
[00:56] <jmichaelx> good grief
[00:59] <amingv> jmichaelx: can't see any relevant bugs either
[00:59] <amingv> zardoz__: do you still have the livecd?
[00:59] <amingv> zardoz__: you could check using that do discard any possible hardware issues
[00:59] <jmichaelx> amingv: i feel confident they will be showing up. probably something fritzy going on between kwin and intel graphics (yet again)
[00:59] <amingv> to*
[01:00] <amingv> jmichaelx: I hate saying this to people
[01:01] <amingv> jmichaelx: But been using raring for a while on an intel card with no issues
[01:01] <zardoz__> think not it is an hardware prob
[01:02] <zardoz__> all other network things work
[01:02] <jmichaelx> amingv: yes, but there is nothing unusual about that. it could have to do with which card, and also which features of kwin are enabled/disabled
[01:04] <amingv> jmichaelx: True. I was mostly refering to your certainty of it showing up :)
[01:05] <jmichaelx> yes.... and i maintain that certainty
[01:05] <amingv> zardoz__: is this a new install? did it work before?
[01:05] <jmichaelx> my setup is fairly standard, so i highly doubt i will be the only one affected
[01:11] <amingv> jmichaelx: I would hope you were wrong, but experience says you might not be :)
[01:11] <jmichaelx> amingv: oh well. i guess we'll see :-)
[01:12] <amingv> jmichaelx: If you have a concrete (or even general) idea of what could be wrong they might appreciate your input at #kubuntu-devel
[01:12] <jmichaelx> ok... i thought i just managed to disable compositing in kwinrc... but it isn't disabled
[01:13] <amingv> jmichaelx: Some people would try clearing ~/.kde or some subfolder, but I'm reluctant to recommend that
[01:13] <jmichaelx> this is clearly not just a matter of CPU usage.... there are some other things which are broken
[01:13] <jmichaelx> amingv: yes... i had not immediately thought of doing that. thanks, i'll give it a shot
[01:18] <jmichaelx> reooted again, and now things are seeming somewhat better, although no idea why
[01:20] <amingv> welp, that's one of the disadvantages of clearing the config
[01:20] <jmichaelx> ok. kwin compositing IS off
[01:20] <amingv> uncertainty about what the real issue was
[01:20] <jmichaelx> no, i didn't yet wipe .kde
[01:20] <jmichaelx> i think i'll hold off on that
[01:20] <amingv> try turing it on? for kicks? :)
[01:21] <jmichaelx> sure, why not
[01:22] <jmichaelx> i really wish KDE settings manager would not ask if you want to save settings changes, when no settings have been changed... KDE has always been that way
[01:23] <jmichaelx> amingv: yes, turning on compositing sent CPU up to 100% again
[01:24] <amingv> culprit!
[01:24] <jmichaelx> apparently so
[01:24] <amingv> did you have compositing before the upgrade?
[01:24] <jmichaelx> amingv: yes
[01:27] <amingv> jmichaelx: been checking out forums and I won't pretend I know how to solve it
[01:27] <amingv> most suggest disabling compositing, but that's more of a workaround than an actual solution
[01:28] <jmichaelx> amingv: well, i imagine/hope there will be a solution. for myself, i can survive on this particular machine without compositing
[01:29] <jmichaelx> ok, the display configuration dialog in system settings has changed...  it looks to me like it's been gutted
[01:30] <amingv> gutted?
[01:30] <jmichaelx> well, most of the options are gone... unless i'm missing something
[01:31] <jmichaelx> no place to set refresh rate, for example
[01:31] <jmichaelx> ok, there is. the layout has just really changed
[01:32] <amingv> Oh, right. The display config dialog was updated.
[01:32] <amingv> I was a bit perplexed at first, but forgot all about it
[01:33] <jmichaelx> yea, the settings are all there, although they have made finding those settings  unnecessarily difficult, imo
[01:34] <jmichaelx> amingv: i think you were right
[01:35] <jmichaelx> amingv: this problem may have been specific to a few unlucky machines - like mine
[01:35] <amingv> jmichaelx: Just curious. What driver are you using?
[01:35] <amingv> what does lshw -c display say?
[01:35] <jmichaelx> amingv: it was showing me as having a dual-display setup... i don't. this has been an issue with this machine at other times
[01:37] <jmichaelx> there were 2 versions of this MB... one with an LVDS connector, and one without. mine is without, but the LVDS screen still shows up in KDE system settings, and KDE is always wanting to turn it on as a dual display... or even try to make LVDS the primary display
[01:37] <zardoz__> amingv: this installation runs over a year, the only dump thing i did was to try a second  monitor on my GTX275, then i get black screen and had to shutdown by power knob
[01:37] <jmichaelx> when i just disabled the LVDS display, then enabled compositing again, everything is working fine
[01:38] <amingv> jmichaelx: They probably use the same display driver and IC and just removed the actual connector.
[01:39] <amingv> jmichaelx: Cool.
[01:40] <amingv> jmichaelx: What model MB is this anyway?
[01:40] <amingv> zardoz__: Not a dumb thing. At any rate that shouldn't mess up your dns settings.
[01:41] <jmichaelx> amingv: it's an intel dm525mw
[01:41]  * amingv looks it up
[01:42] <jmichaelx> amingv: it's an atom-based mini itx board. i have really liked it.
[01:44] <amingv> jmichaelx: Yeah, looks rather nice
[01:45] <amingv> jmichaelx: I'll try to keep it in mind. Turns out you'll end up being right, this issue might come up :)
[01:46] <jmichaelx> it could, but there are probably not too many people who will run into this. maybe only folks with this particular MB, who knows
[01:47] <amingv> jmichaelx: Oh, come on! Let me agree with you! :)
[01:49] <jmichaelx> amingv: i hate to be so obtuse, but i think you were more right than i war
[01:49] <jmichaelx> was*
[01:49] <jmichaelx> :-)
[01:50] <amingv> zardoz__: I have been looking up this issue. I'm really lost as to what might be wrong.
[01:50] <amingv> zardoz__: Intermitent issues are such a pain
[01:51] <amingv> jmichaelx: Just felt like I was in a Bugs Bunny episode for a second there :)
[01:52] <jmichaelx> lol
[02:02] <zardoz__> amingv: when i alternate resolv.conf and then do "sudo resolvconf -u" it is working for a few seconds
[02:06] <amingv> zardoz__: do you see anything related to dns in /var/log/syslog after it stops working
[02:07] <zardoz__> no
[02:16] <amingv> zardoz__: does dig @208.67.222.222 google.com give you an error?
[02:17] <amingv> replace 208.67.222.222 with your dns server address
[02:17] <amingv> dig @208.67.222.222 google.com *
[02:21] <ljofre> any body from chile?
[02:22] <zardoz__> dont know
[02:23] <zardoz__> but this pc works fine its on the same router over the same switch
[02:25] <amingv> ljofre: You might find someone in #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es
[02:26] <zardoz__> amingv: no error
[02:29] <zardoz__> amingv: a silly idea, i restart my router
[02:29] <amingv> zardoz__: So the actual address-resolving is not the issue
[02:30] <amingv> zardoz__: And you already reverted all the changes to the congigs
[02:31] <amingv> zardoz__: configs*
[02:31] <amingv> zardoz__: Let's see... what's left...
[02:34] <zardoz_> It WORKS, hope now for a long time
[02:35] <amingv> zardoz__: After router reboot? Of all things :)
[02:35] <zardoz_> yeah
[02:36] <zardoz_> i think, the routers send the dhcp infos then and all works now, lol
[02:36] <zardoz_> but thanks alot for your help
[02:37] <OerHeks> :-)
[02:37] <amingv> Bah, I wasn't all that useful in the end.
[02:37] <amingv> But you're very welcome :)
[02:38] <zardoz_> thx
[04:04] <Guest53485> help kubuntu not conec
[04:05] <Guest53485> ok
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest53485: Say that again?
[04:05] <Guest53485> portugues
[04:05] <Guest53485> brazil
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !br | Guest53485, I see. We have a channel for that
[04:06] <Guest53485> ok
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Uh, #kubuntu-br
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Não es o #ubuntu-br.
[04:07] <Guest53485> ok #ubuntu-br
[08:23] <alberto> hi everyone
[10:11] <vitimiti> hi
[11:39] <guest746583> How do I use installed themes in kubuntu 12.10?
[11:40] <guest746583> I've installed couple of themes but I only see Air, Air for netbooks and Oxygen
[11:41] <guest746583> help me anyone?
[11:52] <guest746583> !help
[12:38] <meerkat> hello. I'm looking for some torrents to seed for 13.04. Which kubuntu versions eat the most traffic?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:46] <goodtime> help
[13:47] <smartboyhw> goodtime: ?
[13:47] <goodtime> cant get my iphone to be seen in kubuntu at all for the life of me
[13:47] <goodtime> 2 days now almst ive tryed
[13:47] <goodtime> almost*
[13:49] <goodtime> just the notifyer sees it
[13:49] <goodtime> idk
[13:51] <goodtime> Could not read file Directory not found.
[13:51] <goodtime> man
[13:51] <goodtime> i have a 3gs
[13:52] <goodtime> i know its old but hey its what i have
[13:59] <goodtime> oki think i might have something
[14:00] <goodtime> i wiki it
[14:04] <goodtime> amrok lol ty all
[14:04] <goodtime> amarok
[14:31] <lmat> I'm trying to install kubuntu with Windows already installed to dual boot.
[14:31] <lmat> I booted the computer to a kubuntu USB, and the options were three options talking about "full disk".
[14:31] <lmat> guided, something else, optimized? they all said full disk.
[14:32] <lmat> Then there was a "manual" but it didn't look hopeful. Am I missing something?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> lmat, full disk will wipe your windows install, guided will ask you questions about what you want to do, and manual gives you control over making and formatting partitons
[14:36] <BluesKaj> and then installing kubuntu in the proper partition
[14:36] <BluesKaj> guided is probly your best bet
[14:37] <BluesKaj> lmat, ^
[14:37] <lmat> BluesKaj: sounds like it.
[14:37] <lmat> BluesKaj: So, I already have windows. I need to create a (few) linux partitions "around" the windows data.
[14:37] <lmat> BluesKaj: This is possible through guided?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> lmat, not around windows , beside wqindows  in the partition manager gui
[14:39] <BluesKaj> windows like to be first , so free space is the area of the disk where you want to create the kubuntu partition
[14:49] <lmat> BluesKaj: Looks like I can do it in Windows (7)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> the partitioning , lmat ? yes I've heard that , but never tried it ..I always use the Gparted Live CD for partitioning
[14:54] <away> I did the partitioning in windows, works fine there as well
[14:56] <BluesKaj> away, never trusted windows partitoning apps
[15:26] <khall> Hey all. I've got a problem I cannot find a solution to! I've been using a plantronics headset with skype for a year, but yesterday the skype audio started coming out of my main speakers instead of my headset. I didn't change anything, but even if I set my plantronics headset as the most preferred device for all audio playback types in the Phonon KDE Control Module, the sound *still* comes out my speakers. I've tested my headset fr
[15:26] <khall> Any ideas would be greatly appriciated.
[15:29] <Captain_Proton> have you unplugged our speakers just to see?
[15:29] <Captain_Proton> also in terminal check alsa mixer
[15:32] <khall> Captain_Proton: I'll try that
[15:36] <khall> Captain_Proton: With my main speakers unplugged, all audio is now redirected to my headset speakers *except* skype! When I call the skype echo server I just hear nothing.
[15:37] <khall> I also don't see the headset anywhere in the alsomixer, but all the levels look normal
[15:37] <Captain_Proton> khall: so in skype is the a setup wizard you can run throw to change the out audio?
[15:38] <tyrog> How do I disable KMix applet from the taskbar permanently?
[15:39] <khall> Nope, under Sound Devices is just lists "PulseAudio server (local)" for Mic, Speakers, and Ringing.
[15:40] <Captain_Proton> khall: in system setting under multimedia > communication what is listed
[15:42] <khall> I don't have a communication choice, but I do have one for phonon
[15:43] <Captain_Proton> sorry that what I ment
[15:43] <khall> http://imageshack.us/f/580/phononsystemsettings002.png/
[15:45] <Captain_Proton> can change it in audio hardware setup and if so does it help
[15:47] <Captain_Proton> another option is install a more robust pulseaudio utility like pulseaudio volume control in the software center
[15:48] <khall> I'm not sure what you mean by audio hardware setup
[15:48] <Captain_Proton> the next tab over
[15:48] <khall> right, gotcha.
[15:50] <khall> I can test my headset out from there and it works perfectly. I've got the right profile too. I'll see if I can install the pulseaudio volume control
[15:54] <khall> Captain_Proton: If I set the Profile for my Built-in to "Off" I get all audio including skype through my headset. Of course, that's not exactly helpful, but it's at least interesting. Reenabling my built-in audio restores my problem.
[15:56] <Captain_Proton> in reading some of the comments on pulseaudio volume control other have reported it fixed there skype audio problems
[15:57] <Captain_Proton> khall: check that out I have run for a bit
[15:58] <khall> It really doesn't seem to be a skype problem. I feel like it's a phonon issue, considering it switches to using my headset just fine if I disable all my other audio devices. It just isn't routing my audio based on my settings.
[15:58] <khall> will do, thanks for the help!
[16:19] <frog_> cze parówy
[16:23] <fooscript> helo :)
[16:24] <fooscript> My system is up to date, but it's still Precise. How can I turn it into Quantal ?
[16:30] <fooscript> halo?
[16:33] <Artakha> fooscript, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:34] <fooscript> Artakha:  Thank you :)
[16:34] <Artakha> yw
[16:35] <genii-around> fooscript: If you haven't already been presented with an option to upgrade, most likely your system is set to go LTS-LTS.  Perhaps check in etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  to see what Prompt=   is set to ( lts, normal, or never)
[16:35] <fooscript> genii-around: Thanks... you're right. It's LTS :/
[16:36] <fooscript> Saying truth, I don't know why. It had to be default option.
[16:39] <fooscript> Sorry for silly question, but what's a command from console to check  already installed ubuntu version?
[16:41] <genii-around> fooscript: cat /etc/issue
[16:42] <fooscript> genii-around: Works great :) Why there're \n \l  sequences in the end of line ?
[16:42] <genii-around> fooscript: For stuff that parses that file
[16:42] <fooscript> ah : ) Thank you again.
[16:43] <genii-around> np
[16:56] <nick_omega> is it possible to logoff and shutdown the computer running kubuntu 12 and upon rebooting and logging in again have all the windows and environment the same?
[16:57] <nick_omega> the environment would be retained even if turning the machine off and back on and booting into another OS
[17:08] <genii-around> nick_omega: Settings...System Settings.... Startup and Shutdown... Session Management
[17:19] <lmat> yo. I have a problem.
[17:19] <genii-around> !details | lmat
[17:19] <lmat> I was adjusting my monitors, and obviously got something wrong because some of them turned off.
[17:19] <lmat> Unfortunately, the settings window is on one of those monitors!
[17:19] <lmat> All I think I need to do is get that settings window back.
[17:20] <lmat> What is a keyboard shortcut to move a window?
[17:22] <meerkat> lmat, I dont know kubuntu but try ctrl+alt + arrow keys
[17:24] <lmat> meerkat: I'll try :)
[17:25] <juacom99> hi, quick question: i'm trying to add a new mode to my screen (1440x900) i generate the modeline and use it on xrandr to create the new mode but when i try to  add it to VGA-0 i get an error. it seams the new mode is been created for the output dvi-I-1. any ideas how to fix that?
[17:25] <lmat> meerkat: nope :(
[17:25] <lmat> meerkat: I tried everything.
[17:26] <lmat> meerkat: In windows, I press Alt+space
[17:26] <juacom99> your screen is rotated?
[17:28] <meerkat> lmat, open the settings window in one of the monitors that do work. Does that not work?
[17:28] <lmat> meerkat: It's already open.
[17:28] <lmat> I also don't have the taskbar (or whatever it's called)
[17:28] <lmat> juacom99: no.
[17:28] <lmat> juacom99: That, I could deal with.
[17:29] <lmat> juacom99: I was adjusting monitor settings and two monitors shut off. Unfortunately, the settings window is on one of those monitors!
[17:29] <lmat> meerkat: You don't use KDE?
[17:29] <meerkat> no
[17:29] <lmat> meerkat: In Windows, I press Alt+space to open the system menu, then "m" to select move, then arrow keys to where I want it, then enter to make it stay.
[17:30] <juacom99> lmat: yes but never try a expanded screen
[17:30] <lmat> juacom99: I got it working with three screens! Four screens and two of them turned off.
[17:30] <lmat> juacom99: Why?
[17:30] <juacom99> did you check the power cable?
[17:30] <juacom99> is pluged in?
[17:31] <lmat> juacom99: yeah, they were working juts before I click "Apply"
[17:31] <lmat> juacom99: Now they show the "Check signal cable" error.
[17:32] <lmat> juacom99: I'm quite sure they will work if only I can adjust the settings!
[17:32] <lmat> juacom99: How do I close a window with the keyboard?
[17:32] <lmat> alt+f4 doesn't seem to work.
[17:32] <juacom99> that's an easy one ctrl+alt+esc
[17:33] <lmat> juacom99: YAY!
[17:33] <juacom99> and click on the windows
[17:33] <lmat> juacom99: I can't click on the windows
[17:33] <juacom99> you know the procces name?
[17:33] <lmat> juacom99: It's System Settings (so I guess KDE?)
[17:33] <juacom99> nop
[17:34] <juacom99> let me check
[17:34] <juacom99> porces name is systemsettings
[17:34] <juacom99> type ctrl+esc
[17:34] <juacom99> and kill the porcess
[17:35] <juacom99> or in a console killall -9 systemsettings
[17:35] <lmat> alt+f4 worked
[17:35] <lmat> my keyboard was set up to f4 = pause music!
[17:35] <juacom99> ok open systemsetting again and change the screen settings :D
[17:36] <lmat> oh boy, I think it's totally busted.
[17:36] <lmat> juacom99: I think my desktop is gone or something.
[17:36] <juacom99> did you kill kde?
[17:36] <lmat> juacom99: In the monitor that still works, in the upper right, there used to be a little tab that said "desktop" from which I could launch commands like "run command"
[17:37] <lmat> juacom99: Not totally?
[17:37] <juacom99> try alt+F2
[17:37] <juacom99> that should pop up the run command
[17:38] <lmat> juacom99: ahh, thanks, sec
[17:38] <lmat> it worked!
[17:38] <lmat> I ran display settings, etc. But I think they're just showing up on the old monitor.
[17:38] <juacom99> cool
[17:39] <lmat> alt+tab doesn't wokr.
[17:39] <lmat> I noticed that alt+tab doesn't work if you're in an application? You have to click the desktop (set the focus on the desktop) first, then alt tab works.
[17:39] <juacom99> try to fix the borken screens now :D
[17:39] <lmat> Well, like I said, I think I don't have a desktop now...
[17:39] <lmat> okay, restarting...
[17:39] <juacom99> try to  restart x
[17:40] <juacom99> on a command line stopx
[17:40] <juacom99> startx
[17:45] <lmat> okay, got it sorted.
[17:45] <lmat> When I restarted the computer, I got the taskbar (or whatever it's called) on the laptop monitor.
[17:45] <lmat> Now I'm going to try to incorporate the other monitor again
[17:47] <MrPoT4tO> hey guys, can you help me with an issue i have with my browser (Firefox) and the flash-player plugin?
[17:47] <MrPoT4tO> I'm asking because I'm not sure if this is the right place
[17:47] <lmat> okay, it's busted.
[17:47] <lmat> BUT, I was sure to put the configuration window in the laptop window.
[17:48] <genii-around> MrPoT4tO: A more descriptive explanation of the issue you're having with it could be helpful :)
[17:48] <meerkat> MrPoT4tO, what is the issue?
[17:48] <MrPoT4tO> well, I just updated Firefox
[17:48] <MrPoT4tO> and now every site that has a flash-plugin need asks me to install it
[17:48] <juacom99> lmat: ok so when you try to use the 4 monitors 2 of them shut down?
[17:48] <MrPoT4tO> even though I have it already
[17:49] <MrPoT4tO> mind you, this is not the first time that has happened before
[17:49] <genii-around> MrPoT4tO: Did you logoff-logon after the update?
[17:49] <MrPoT4tO> as in the browser or the OS itself?
[17:50] <genii-around> MrPoT4tO: As in... log out of Kubuntu back to the login scren, then log back in
[17:50] <juacom99> MrPoT4tO: what's the output of find / -name libnullplugin.so -print
[17:51] <MrPoT4tO> I'll try that genii-around
[17:51] <MrPoT4tO> juacom99: let me check and I'll copy it here
[17:51] <juacom99> run it wif su
[17:52] <lmat> sorry, buddy had a question so he unhooked my computer.
[17:54] <juacom99> MrPoT4tO: N/m do you have a file call  libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[17:55] <MrPoT4tO> what do you know, I don't
[17:57] <MrPoT4tO> let me try the log off- log in thing first
[17:57] <juacom99> ... in a kconsole wtite ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins | grep libflashplayer.so
[17:57] <juacom99> ok
[17:57] <genii-around> juacom99: Neither do I, but my Flash works :)
[17:57] <juacom99> ok it was one posibility :P
[17:58] <MrPoT4tO> aaaannnd nope, still asks me for the plugin
[17:58] <juacom99> in a kconsole wtite ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins | grep libflashplayer.so
[17:59] <juacom99> *write
[17:59] <MrPoT4tO> okay done
[18:00] <MrPoT4tO> doesn't seem to be doing anything though
[18:00] <juacom99> ok then you don't have the .so there
[18:00] <MrPoT4tO> apparently
[18:01] <juacom99> you can try to download the .so fromn adobe's web and uncommpres it there...
[18:02] <MrPoT4tO> good old uninstall-install it again trick. Okay, will do that
[18:05] <genii-around> MrPoT4tO: Alternately, just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:06] <genii-around> ( with --reinstall in the second command if necessary)
[18:06] <MrPoT4tO> okay, thanks guys
[18:06] <MrPoT4tO> i'll let you know if it works
[18:07] <juacom99> ok
[18:07] <juacom99> no porblem
[18:07] <juacom99> *problem
[18:08] <MrPoT4tO> it worked! :D
[18:08] <MrPoT4tO> thanks guys
[20:42] <lmat> What is the best way to get my kubuntu looking like mac?
[22:55] <__dan__> hi does anyone know another keyboard shortcut for refresh page i wore out my F5 key on this page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/ :)
[22:59] <Artakha> __dan__, o_O ctrl+r is a common one
[23:00] <__dan__> hehe i know dude was kinda joking, due out any time now 13.04 innit?
[23:00] <__dan__> btw this is way easier: watch wget -qO- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/
[23:00] <__dan__> hahah
[23:00] <Artakha> heh
[23:01] <Artakha> well yeah. but it's only 25th in the europe
[23:01] <Artakha> and besides nobody said midnight 25th to my knowledge :P
[23:01] <__dan__> yeah im not sure really
[23:01] <__dan__> figured i would stop by irc and see if theres much of a buzz
[23:01] <__dan__> apparently not hehe :P
[23:02] <Artakha> well yeah
[23:02] <Artakha> not that i'm not excited though
[23:03] <__dan__> nah tbh the upcoming debian release is bigger news
[23:04] <tyrog> Is it possible to have the Kubuntu updates & backports ppas enabled at the same without trouble?
[23:04] <__dan__> yeah, i do
[23:05] <Artakha> debian's releasing too?
[23:05] <tyrog> thanks :)
[23:05] <tyrog> Artakha: 5th may
[23:05] <Artakha> i see
[23:05] <__dan__> may want to be careful with ppa's if you wanna dist-upgrade to 13.04 tho
[23:06] <tyrog> __dan__: No, I'm doing fresh install as soon as its out :) . What about you?
[23:06] <__dan__> ah i will be doing a dist-upgrade on this
[23:06] <__dan__> did a reinstall for 12.10 so really cant be bothered
[23:06] <tyrog> It should run fine as long as you didn't change your system too much with PPAs
[23:07] <__dan__> yeah im not too worried :)
[23:07] <tyrog> you dont have the LTS too?
[23:08] <__dan__> nah well im on 12.10 with the ppa's on this laptop
[23:08] <__dan__> but i got a couple of 12.04 lts servers too
[23:08] <__dan__> those will be staying right where they are haha
[23:14] <tyrog> __dan__: actually i'm going with kde after one year using unity with 12.04 lts
[23:14] <__dan__> haha it took that long?
[23:14] <__dan__> 10/10 for perseverance
[23:14] <tyrog> What? The lts, or unity? xD
[23:14] <__dan__> unity hehe :)
[23:14] <__dan__> 12.04 aint bad at all
[23:15] <__dan__> in fact im just playing with 12.04 as a remote desktop server with lxde
[23:15] <__dan__> but i digress
[23:15] <tyrog> Actually Unity is a good DE once you know the keyboard shortcuts and such
[23:15] <__dan__> ah i just didnt get on with it at all
[23:16] <__dan__> just seemed like more mindless reinvention of shit that already works
[23:16] <__dan__> just designed for a tablet or something like that with greasy fingerprints all over it
[23:17] <tyrog> __dan__: My previous experiences with KDE weren't that successful. I always would find trouble with it. Crashes from programs to KWin itself, Sluggishness, Bloat
[23:18] <tyrog> But then I read some great things about KDE4.10 and decided to try it during 13.04 development cycle. Awesome!
[23:18] <__dan__> to be fair it was very flakey at 4.0 and got a really bad name because of it
[23:18] <__dan__> should never have been released the way it did
[23:18] <__dan__> how much of the blame you put on distros and how much on kde is another matter
[23:18] <tyrog> Right. And then with the following releases they have implemented a lot of stuff that has matured very well into a great 4.10 release
[23:18] <tyrog> like Nepomuk
[23:18] <__dan__> kde 4.10 is pretty rock solid in my experience
[23:19] <__dan__> tbh 4.8+ is great
[23:19] <__dan__> on mine nepomuk and all that silly gubbins gets disabled on first boot
[23:19] <__dan__> akonadi
[23:19] <tyrog> I also thought KDE was hard to customize. I was very wrong indeed :P
[23:20] <__dan__> yeah always been a strong point of KDE
[23:20] <tyrog> The way the interface is designed is very smart. It gives the most common options first, then if you are a power user you can also dig deeper
[23:20] <__dan__> yep, i think thats the main reason i use kde, not just because of that, but the whole mindset of the devs
[23:21] <__dan__> in contrast to gnome which oversimplifies everything
[23:21] <tyrog> It was bloated, I mean, all the options were shown, things were de-organized. Now everything has a place, it makes more sense
[23:22] <__dan__> yep i get on with it really well, it just stays out my way and i do my thing, if it gets in my way it's dead easy to teach it otherwise :)
[23:23] <tyrog> And it is also faster now. Nepomuk is "silent" xD
[23:23] <__dan__> it is when i've finished with it :)
[23:23] <__dan__> akonadi, virtuoso, nepomuk ... just say no
[23:24] <__dan__> should be far more easy to disable that crap, too
[23:24] <__dan__> i mean whose bright idea was it to run a mysql server on every desktop
[23:24] <__dan__> srsly.
[23:25] <tyrog> lol
[23:25] <tyrog> What is virtuoso for?
[23:26] <Riddell> ** 13.04 final candidates images for testing, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help test
[23:26] <__dan__> i believe it's for full text search and the like
[23:26] <__dan__> ooooooo
[23:36] <ScottyK> what time is kubuntu being released tomorrow?
[23:37] <smartboyhw> ScottyK: 1. Tmr or today depending where you are and 2. Don't copy our council member's nick…
[23:40] <ScottyK> I'm not copying, I've had this nick for many years