user242432 | Know how to setup the tablet/stylus on the fujitsu lifebook t4220 ? | 03:22 |
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user242432 | I'm using Ubuntu/Lubuntu 12.04 | 03:22 |
holstein | user242432: should just be like a pointer, correct? | 03:24 |
user242432 | Yes, touch screen | 03:24 |
user242432 | The monitor flips into a touch screen tablet. | 03:24 |
holstein | user242432: sometimes, i try the main ubuntu to learn things from | 03:24 |
user242432 | I found a tutorial for jaunty but not sure it's compatible with 12.04 | 03:25 |
user242432 | it says to edit /etc/serial.conf | 03:25 |
holstein | user242432: you shouldnt need to | 03:25 |
holstein | user242432: have you just tried it yet? | 03:25 |
user242432 | Not yet.. | 03:26 |
holstein | user242432: just try it live.. it'll probaly "just work" | 03:26 |
user242432 | I bought this pc used without a stylus pen. I'm not sure if it requires the fujitu stylus or if I can use my finger on the screen. | 03:29 |
holstein | stylus likely | 03:29 |
holstein | its just a mouse to the OS pretty much | 03:29 |
SonikkuAmerica | holstein: Yes, I'm using a Fujitsu T4220 and can confirm that. | 03:30 |
SonikkuAmerica | user242432: Yes, it requires the stylus. | 03:30 |
holstein | a user in my LUG had one, and we had a hard time with the wifi.. it was off.. not showing up, and there was a software switch that we needed to turn the wifi chip on with from windows | 03:30 |
SonikkuAmerica | What. | 03:30 |
SonikkuAmerica | From Windows? Was it a Wubi install? | 03:31 |
holstein | luckily he was dual booting, so i went to the site and got the utility, and installed it in xp, and turned the wifi chip on | 03:31 |
SonikkuAmerica | Odd. | 03:31 |
holstein | SonikkuAmerica: tbh, i dont know.. but i dont think so. i think it was a normal dual boot setup | 03:31 |
holstein | SonikkuAmerica: he came to me not being able to get the wifi working, and thats what i did.. made the wifi work | 03:31 |
SonikkuAmerica | user242432: What model is your Fujitsu? | 03:31 |
user242432 | i tested wifi under fedora and it worked. There's a slider switch on the side to activate it. | 03:32 |
user242432 | exact model..not sure. | 03:32 |
holstein | there was no slider on this model.. it was old | 03:32 |
SonikkuAmerica | holstein: Hm. I know most Fujitsu convertible tablet PCs have a hardware switch... mine is no exception. | 03:32 |
holstein | i assure you this one had none | 03:32 |
SonikkuAmerica | "Verily, verily..." | 03:32 |
holstein | and, we "fixed" it by installing the utility | 03:33 |
SonikkuAmerica | Yeah, the thing has shock sensor stuff and the whole works. | 03:33 |
SonikkuAmerica | That reminds me, I have to go reinstall VBox | 03:33 |
holstein | this has a "windows 98" sticker on it, from what i remember | 03:33 |
* SonikkuAmerica whistles | 03:33 | |
user242432 | SonikkuAmerica.. Did you get the stylus working? | 03:33 |
holstein | user242432: it works out of the box | 03:34 |
SonikkuAmerica | user242432: As a mouse, yes... | 03:34 |
holstein | user242432: its like a mouse | 03:34 |
SonikkuAmerica | OOTB | 03:34 |
holstein | user242432: you dont do anything to "get it working". it just works | 03:34 |
holstein | but, its not a touch screen, if its like SonikkuAmerica and my friend's | 03:34 |
SonikkuAmerica | holstein: Not a capacitive one, that is. | 03:34 |
user242432 | Ok. So i don't need to edit /etc/serial.conf then. | 03:34 |
holstein | user242432: you shouldnt need to do *anything* | 03:35 |
user242432 | I ordered a stylus from the US. Just waiting for it to arrive. | 03:35 |
SonikkuAmerica | Pen touch screens are known as a special type of resistive touch screen. | 03:35 |
holstein | user242432: you can maybe use a part of a potato chip bag | 03:35 |
holstein | maybe not.. but it wouldnt hurt to try.. | 03:36 |
user242432 | Does this stylus connect to the pc with a cable? How does it work? | 03:36 |
SonikkuAmerica | holstein: I doubt that'll work as a stylus... there's a chip inside the stylus that interacts with the screen on the same channel. | 03:36 |
holstein | user242432: check the manual at the site.. the one i saw had no cable | 03:36 |
user242432 | how does the pc detect the stylus ? that's what i can't understand | 03:36 |
holstein | SonikkuAmerica: yeah.. i think the potato chip bag trick works on the ones you can use your finger on | 03:36 |
SonikkuAmerica | holstein: Like Palm Pilots. | 03:36 |
holstein | user242432: the chip that SonikkuAmerica just referenced | 03:36 |
user242432 | wifi you mean. | 03:37 |
holstein | user242432: no.. | 03:37 |
holstein | user242432: far from that.. just via the screen... | 03:37 |
SonikkuAmerica | http://www.tablet4u.co.uk/techinfo.html <<< Here's a good explanation, complete with diagram. It's an electromagnetic resistance touch screen. | 03:37 |
user242432 | thanks for that. Looks like i'll just have to wait for the stylus to arrive then.. Otherwise the PC seems to work fine. | 03:39 |
user242432 | audio is slightly tinny though. | 03:39 |
SonikkuAmerica | It would be... it's just a cheap chip. | 03:40 |
hammommah | greetings I am having some troule connecting via ssh from outside my local network. I have port 22 forwarded. I am currently running 4 csgo servers and a minecraft server. I can ping my server from outside. I can ssh into server from within my local network no worries. Any suggestions on where to look. When I try to connect from outside I get "No route to host" this is a headless ubuntu server, ive tried asking in there channel ut no one is there. I use | 05:44 |
hammommah | lubuntu on all other pc's | 05:44 |
x5ives | On launching Synaptic Package Manager I get errors: http://pastebin.com/HPqZ8zv8, this happened after reloading package info. If it helps I just installed lubuntu without an internet connection. | 07:26 |
user242432 | Real bad crackly audio on my fujitsu lifebook t4220. Audio worked fine on fedora 15. Any idea how to fix? | 07:38 |
user242432 | Should i install pusle? If so, what's the full suite of apps needed? | 07:38 |
user242432 | pulse | 07:39 |
x5ives | *tumbleweed* | 07:39 |
x5ives | It's quite quiet here right now... | 07:40 |
user242432 | x5ives.. Shhh..let them meditate upon my questions ;- ) | 07:41 |
x5ives | I've been waiting twelve minutes on my issue, you're the first to message since then. | 07:42 |
user242432 | Don't forget #ubuntu and #lxde chatrooms. | 07:44 |
user242432 | I might have to "do the rounds" myself soon. | 07:45 |
user242432 | like now. :- ) | 07:46 |
x5ives | Wait, you're in using Ubuntu? Why didn't you go to #ubuntu first? | 07:57 |
user242432 | I'm there now asking. | 07:58 |
x5ives | Yeah but why did you come here fisrt? | 07:58 |
x5ives | *first | 07:58 |
x5ives | If you're running Ubuntu. | 07:58 |
user242432 | Because I'm using the lubuntu desktop suite | 07:58 |
user242432 | ubuntu + lxde. Well it says i have Lubuntu at bootup now. | 07:58 |
x5ives | Ahh, did you install the metapackage. | 07:59 |
x5ives | ? | 07:59 |
user242432 | yes | 07:59 |
user242432 | i used the mini.iso net installer | 07:59 |
x5ives | Did you do it because gnome was too needy for your computer? | 08:00 |
user242432 | I stick to what I know best: lxde & i know a lot of tweaks for it. | 08:00 |
x5ives | Fair enough, just wondering 'cause that's why I did it. What OS did you first use LXDE in? | 08:01 |
user242432 | hmm can't remember now...Was a long time ago. Probably Debian or Ubuntu. | 08:01 |
x5ives | Ubuntu used LXDE? | 08:01 |
x5ives | Or did you install it manually? | 08:02 |
user242432 | I used the mini installer for a long time, although I could have used the official Lubuntu..can't remember. | 08:02 |
x5ives | What made you decide to use it, just wanted to try it out? | 08:03 |
wxl | x5ives: google helps. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/e-the-package-lists-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-or-opened/ | 08:03 |
user242432 | it's closeness to windows so it's easy to use for noobs and windows users. | 08:03 |
user242432 | A windows user can easily transition to lxde without much hastles. Well I have no complaints from them ;- ) | 08:04 |
wxl | user242432: ubuntu + lxde != lubuntu. e.g. pulse? not in lubuntu. | 08:04 |
user242432 | wxl: I used the ubuntu mini.iso web installer and I selected lubuntu desktop suite. | 08:05 |
wxl | user242432: so how did you end up with pulse? | 08:05 |
user242432 | I didn't... I used pulse in fedora. | 08:06 |
user242432 | I want to install pulse but what metapackages do I need? | 08:06 |
wxl | oh i misread that message up there. | 08:06 |
wxl | pulse doesn't change your audio drivers | 08:06 |
wxl | what drivers did you use in fedora? what are you using now? | 08:07 |
wxl | are they different versions? | 08:07 |
wxl | what about the kernel version? | 08:07 |
wxl | this can help you kind of figure this all out, or at least get closer to the problem. | 08:07 |
wxl | lspci -vvnn should give you plenty of information, though you'll have to dig for your audio device | 08:08 |
user242432 | Not sure. I'd have to reboot F15. Checking my drivers.. brb | 08:08 |
x5ives | wxl: #ubuntu basically gave me the same info, but thanks anyway :). | 08:09 |
wxl | x5ives: and it didn't work? | 08:10 |
x5ives | Slow internet, still performing apt-get update. | 08:10 |
wxl | user242432: lspci -vvnn | grep --after-context=10 -i audio should hone in on the specifics | 08:10 |
user242432 | Chipset: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) | 08:10 |
wxl | user242432: yeah yeah it's the driver the matters. i'm asking you to compare the drivers used on both os's | 08:11 |
wxl | if one is using driver_a and one is using driver_b you should probably use the one that works :) | 08:11 |
user242432 | This is why I ask about Pulse: | 08:11 |
user242432 | I recently had a problem with usb audio not working in alsa. Then I installed Pulse and it worked fine. | 08:11 |
user242432 | So I'm assuming..just install Pulse and make it work. | 08:12 |
wxl | you can certainly try | 08:12 |
wxl | !info pulseaudio | user242432 | 08:12 |
ubottu | user242432: pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.1-0ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 883 kB, installed size 3228 kB | 08:12 |
x5ives | Sorry about that, accidentally closed pidgin. | 08:13 |
user242432 | So I'm sifting through apt-cache looking for which pulse metapackage I need..... | 08:13 |
user242432 | found pavucontrol (yes i want that)...and? | 08:14 |
wxl | user242432: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pulseaudio | 08:14 |
user242432 | ah..i was searching for "apt-cache search pulse" | 08:15 |
wxl | pulseaudio will instlal just about everything and as long as you don't request no recomments you'll get pauvucontrol etc | 08:15 |
user242432 | ok installing. | 08:16 |
user242432 | Didn't work & external speakers don't work either. | 08:23 |
user242432 | Will have to test again in fedora & check drivers etc. | 08:24 |
user242432 | I'll check my driver options. Sometimes *buntu disables driver options. | 08:25 |
user242432 | Where's the file that shows what driver optons are enabled? | 08:33 |
x5ives | Synaptic was open while performing apt-get update, I'm doing it again now, will it download everything again or just what it needs? | 08:34 |
x5ives | Like, what it already downloaded before, it won't download again right? | 08:34 |
x5ives | Never mind, it's done. | 08:34 |
user242432 | x5lives...just shutdown synaptic.. It should run the update manager automatically later on anyway | 08:34 |
wxl | x5ives: synaptic and apt-get are trying to do the same thing. actually one should lock out the other one being used. they conflict with one another. only one at a time. | 08:35 |
wxl | x5ives: you might run into further issues because of that. | 08:35 |
wxl | user242432: it sppears modinfo should give you potential parameters | 08:35 |
user242432 | wxl..yes, but where is the file in /proc or wherever that stores records the options? | 08:36 |
wxl | /proc/modules afaik | 08:36 |
x5ives | I know, I know, I closed Synaptic, apt-get update -ed, now I'm reloading package info in Synaptic. | 08:37 |
x5ives | apt-get update didn't return any errors this time. | 08:38 |
wxl | x5ives: technically they use the same info, so if you apt-get update there's no need to update synaptic :) | 08:38 |
x5ives | Figured as much, why are some thing failing in Synaptic then? | 08:39 |
x5ives | *things | 08:39 |
x5ives | And what does "Hit" mean? | 08:39 |
wxl | hard to say | 08:39 |
wxl | i don't use synaptic | 08:39 |
wxl | it's an unnecessary front end | 08:39 |
wxl | it can have its own errors | 08:40 |
x5ives | Well, it's easy to search for packages in Synaptic. | 08:40 |
wxl | so it is with apt-cache search something | 08:40 |
Myrtti | synaptic makes it easy to browse for packages, but it's not particularly good or fast in comparison to apt-cache | 08:41 |
x5ives | So that's the command! I had a feeling there was an apt-get search! | 08:41 |
wxl | :) | 08:41 |
wxl | also there's apt-cache show which will give more info on a particular package | 08:41 |
wxl | don't sudo apt-cache | 08:41 |
wxl | not necessary | 08:41 |
x5ives | Just 'apt-cache query'? | 08:41 |
Myrtti | search or show | 08:41 |
Myrtti | apt-cache search plymouth, apt-cache show plymouth | 08:42 |
Myrtti | etc. | 08:42 |
wxl | technically it has other possibilities, but those are the things you'd probably most use. | 08:42 |
wxl | either that or dotty (NOT) | 08:42 |
Unit193 | apt-cache policy can be quite useful as well. apt-cache alone will tell you some more. | 08:42 |
x5ives | What is plymouth, I you're just using it as an example package but I'm still curious. | 08:42 |
wxl | x5ives: more or less the boot up screen that's got lubuntu on it :) | 08:43 |
x5ives | Thanks, wondered that for some time. | 08:43 |
x5ives | What's dotty? | 08:43 |
wxl | hahahahah | 08:43 |
wxl | dotty - Generate package graphs for GraphViz | 08:44 |
wxl | if that don't make sense, don't sweat it. it don't to most. | 08:44 |
x5ives | And what's GraphViz? | 08:45 |
wxl | !info graphviz | x5ives | 08:45 |
ubottu | x5ives: graphviz (source: graphviz): rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.26.3-12ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 317 kB, installed size 863 kB | 08:45 |
wxl | i should add, even to those that that makes sense, it still isn't necessarily useful or commonly used. i wouldn't sweat not grokking it. | 08:46 |
wxl | when i had discrete math classes i composed all my notes in LaTeX (typsetting engine, kind of like what you wish html was) and used GraphViz to make e.g. tree diagrams and things. most people don't/won't/wouldn't use it. | 08:47 |
Myrtti | mmmm latex | 08:47 |
x5ives | What you wish html was? | 08:47 |
Myrtti | I should install it again | 08:47 |
wxl | x5ives: just nevermind :) | 08:48 |
wxl | Myrtti: it's good! | 08:48 |
Unit193 | Rabbit hole... | 08:48 |
Myrtti | I know, I used it at work and I do my CV with it | 08:48 |
x5ives | How do I find accurate internet speed, Connection information gives 100 Mb/s, that's not right. | 08:52 |
x5ives | I'll be back... | 08:53 |
rdress | help | 10:37 |
x5ives | What's the problem? | 10:47 |
x5ives | If a program should run with only 'Depends' packages what is contained in 'Recommends' and 'Suggests'? | 10:52 |
meerkat | hello. I'm looking for some torrents to seed for 13.04. Which lubuntu versions eat the most traffic? | 12:38 |
x5ives | Is there a command to list a package's download size? | 12:42 |
Myrtti | apt-cache show shows that | 12:44 |
x5ives | Specifically, how would I do it? | 12:45 |
x5ives | 'apt-cache search doesn | 12:45 |
x5ives | oops | 12:45 |
x5ives | 'apt-cache search' doesn't seem to show download sizes. | 12:46 |
x5ives | Found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/35956/how-to-see-size-of-a-package-in-terminal-prior-to-downloading, top answer suggests apt-cache --no-all-versions show $package | grep '^Size: ' | 12:51 |
x5ives | I tried apt-cache --no-all-versions show $kate | grep '^Size: ' but it returns E: No packages found, kate is a text editor. | 12:52 |
x5ives | Example package. | 12:52 |
x5ives | Someone on #ubuntu suggested 'apt-cache show packagename' | 12:56 |
Myrtti | yeah I don't know why you tried $kate | 12:56 |
Myrtti | myrtti@kengu:~$ apt-cache --no-all-versions show kate |grep ^Size: | 12:57 |
Myrtti | Size: 878802 | 12:57 |
x5ives | apt-cache --no-all-versions show $package | grep '^Size: ' | 12:57 |
x5ives | ^ the example. | 12:58 |
x5ives | Do you see why I tried $kate? | 12:58 |
Myrtti | because the example writer assumed too much, or too little | 12:59 |
Myrtti | assumptions are bad :-( | 12:59 |
x5ives | True that. | 12:59 |
x5ives | But is that the download size? | 12:59 |
Myrtti | well I just tried with an app that I've installed recently and the size matches with the cached deb file | 13:00 |
Myrtti | so I suppose yet. | 13:01 |
Myrtti | yes. | 13:01 |
x5ives | You and someone from #ubuntu just hiveminded. | 13:02 |
Myrtti | oh, I'm wasting my time since you're already being responded to elsewhere. | 13:02 |
Myrtti | yeah, LjL is like that. | 13:02 |
x5ives | You know them? | 13:02 |
Myrtti | sure. | 13:02 |
x5ives | Hah. | 13:02 |
x5ives | Should that be an assumption? | 13:02 |
x5ives | Are they like semi-famous in the Ubuntu community or something? | 13:03 |
Myrtti | LjL and I are both long time participants on Ubuntu IRC community. | 13:03 |
x5ives | Ahhh. | 13:04 |
Myrtti | anyhoo, glad you got an answer | 13:04 |
x5ives | Is 'Size' in bytes? | 13:04 |
x5ives | Just regular bytes... | 13:05 |
x5ives | ? | 13:05 |
Myrtti | google says yes. | 13:06 |
Myrtti | or rather, 'info ls' | 13:07 |
x5ives | Ahh, thanks, sorry for being pushy, next time I'll google it myself. | 13:07 |
x5ives | How is google akin to 'info ls'? | 13:07 |
Myrtti | don't worry, I got interested myself | 13:07 |
x5ives | Should have a 'b'. | 13:08 |
Myrtti | google pointed me to an answer that quoted info ls | 13:08 |
x5ives | Ohhhh.. | 13:09 |
Myrtti | "Normally the size is printed as a byte count without punctuation" | 13:09 |
x5ives | How did you find that so fast? 'info ls' look like a looooong document. | 13:10 |
x5ives | And there generally is no ctrl+f in terminal emulators. | 13:11 |
x5ives | What does this '_o>' mean? | 13:11 |
x5ives | Is that meant to look like command prompt stuffs, if I'm using the correct term. | 13:12 |
x5ives | Oh my! I'm spot on! | 13:12 |
x5ives | With the term that is, was I right though | 13:12 |
x5ives | ? | 13:12 |
Myrtti | no, a person giving a salute ;-) | 13:13 |
Myrtti | but yes, command prompt is what it looks like | 13:13 |
x5ives | Yeh, that was half-guess too, woot! | 13:13 |
x5ives | I get the 'o>' being the head and arm, but what's the '_' looks like their other arm pointing straight left, that's not right is it? | 13:15 |
x5ives | On a more related note, how about a command for listing a package and all it's dependencies' download size? | 13:17 |
x5ives | In total. | 13:17 |
x5ives | Myrtti: ? | 13:24 |
Myrtti | sorry, had to call opticians | 13:25 |
x5ives | No problem. | 13:25 |
Myrtti | well I suppose you could simulate the fetching | 13:26 |
x5ives | What's wrong with your eyes, if you don't mind me asking? | 13:26 |
x5ives | And what do you mean by that? | 13:26 |
Myrtti | nature had a revenge on me, I was mowing the lawn on Sunday and the lawnmower ate my glasses | 13:27 |
Myrtti | :-D | 13:27 |
x5ives | Ahh, but why do you have glasses in the first place? | 13:27 |
x5ives | Short or far sighted? Or something else? | 13:29 |
x5ives | Just curious, you don't have to answer. | 13:29 |
x5ives | Especially since this is #lubuntu. | 13:29 |
Myrtti | yeah I can't actually wrangle man to give me enough information on how you'd get the total amount, apt-get -s doesn't print the size of the files it seems | 13:33 |
x5ives | Although I'm going to do this in a sec, did you try info instead? | 13:36 |
Myrtti | in this case it contains the exact same info as man | 13:37 |
x5ives | Seriously, exact? I thought they were meant to be different? | 13:39 |
Myrtti | developers and document writers take shortcuts sometimes | 13:42 |
x5ives | I think it's more consistent to include a note in one of the pages explaining how to read the other one. | 13:44 |
x5ives | How do I change my default window manager? | 17:34 |
x5ives | Sorry, didn't meant to disconnect before, figured it out. | 17:46 |
x5ives | Is there a way I can make xfwm4 look like openbox-lubuntu? | 17:47 |
x5ives | Never mind. | 18:10 |
ElTimo | Is there any way to increase the amount of ram used by an intel GPU? | 20:50 |
Rafale | Hi buddy, someone speak French ? :) | 22:05 |
bjrohan | Hello. When I install packages, I get the following error | 22:35 |
bjrohan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599580/ | 22:35 |
genii-around | bjrohan: "no space left on device" seems fairly self-explanatory :) | 22:36 |
genii-around | eg: the /boot partition is full | 22:37 |
bjrohan | Hmm, because it only gives that when it comes to the kernel, I have installed many other programs all the while getting the message | 22:37 |
bjrohan | Nevermind I see | 22:38 |
bjrohan | /dev/sda1 233191 230673 0 100% /boot | 22:39 |
genii-around | bjrohan: So the idea would be to uninstall all the obsolete linux-image-<oldversions-still-in-there> | 22:40 |
bjrohan | I suppose now I should figure out how to remedy that | 22:40 |
bjrohan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599586/ | 22:40 |
bjrohan | How would I do that | 22:41 |
phillw | bjrohan: you can use synaptics package manager, let me just dig you up a link for instructions | 22:43 |
genii-around | bjrohan: first do: uname -r to know what current kernel you have. then ls /boot to see what previous ones are there. Then sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<previous-numbered-one-here> for each of the older ones | 22:44 |
bjrohan | the package manager won't start? | 22:44 |
bjrohan | :-( | 22:44 |
bjrohan | I did the uname -r | 22:44 |
bjrohan | I then did a dpkg --list | grep linux-image | 22:44 |
bjrohan | I have the list of all the old ones installed | 22:45 |
bjrohan | Now just remove | 22:45 |
genii-around | bjrohan: Ah, good. You can use that list, aye | 22:45 |
bjrohan | Leave say the newest 3? Also should I remove the ones with extra in them? | 22:48 |
genii-around | bjrohan: You can remove the "extras" packages for each older kernel if you like, or later it will usually say something about using apt-get autoremove when you do another install/update | 22:49 |
bjrohan | ok | 22:50 |
bjrohan | Thanks! | 22:50 |
genii-around | bjrohan: The latest 3 is fairly good, I'd say. That's what I keep around | 22:50 |
bjrohan | How can I remedy the package manager not starting? I click the icon from the menu, it asks for my password, then nothing | 22:52 |
n-iCe | hi | 22:54 |
n-iCe | Wondering if any of you know a way to share internet (no ad-hoc) | 23:01 |
genii-around | !ics | 23:11 |
ubottu | If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing | 23:11 |
genii-around | n-iCe: Probably a lot of the stuff in the bot's link is Ubuntu-centric but could be used | 23:11 |
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