[03:22] Know how to setup the tablet/stylus on the fujitsu lifebook t4220 ? [03:22] I'm using Ubuntu/Lubuntu 12.04 [03:24] user242432: should just be like a pointer, correct? [03:24] Yes, touch screen [03:24] The monitor flips into a touch screen tablet. [03:24] user242432: sometimes, i try the main ubuntu to learn things from [03:25] I found a tutorial for jaunty but not sure it's compatible with 12.04 [03:25] it says to edit /etc/serial.conf [03:25] user242432: you shouldnt need to [03:25] user242432: have you just tried it yet? [03:26] Not yet.. [03:26] user242432: just try it live.. it'll probaly "just work" [03:29] I bought this pc used without a stylus pen. I'm not sure if it requires the fujitu stylus or if I can use my finger on the screen. [03:29] stylus likely [03:29] its just a mouse to the OS pretty much [03:30] holstein: Yes, I'm using a Fujitsu T4220 and can confirm that. [03:30] user242432: Yes, it requires the stylus. [03:30] a user in my LUG had one, and we had a hard time with the wifi.. it was off.. not showing up, and there was a software switch that we needed to turn the wifi chip on with from windows [03:30] What. [03:31] From Windows? Was it a Wubi install? [03:31] luckily he was dual booting, so i went to the site and got the utility, and installed it in xp, and turned the wifi chip on [03:31] Odd. [03:31] SonikkuAmerica: tbh, i dont know.. but i dont think so. i think it was a normal dual boot setup [03:31] SonikkuAmerica: he came to me not being able to get the wifi working, and thats what i did.. made the wifi work [03:31] user242432: What model is your Fujitsu? [03:32] i tested wifi under fedora and it worked. There's a slider switch on the side to activate it. [03:32] exact model..not sure. [03:32] there was no slider on this model.. it was old [03:32] holstein: Hm. I know most Fujitsu convertible tablet PCs have a hardware switch... mine is no exception. [03:32] i assure you this one had none [03:32] "Verily, verily..." [03:33] and, we "fixed" it by installing the utility [03:33] Yeah, the thing has shock sensor stuff and the whole works. [03:33] That reminds me, I have to go reinstall VBox [03:33] this has a "windows 98" sticker on it, from what i remember [03:33] * SonikkuAmerica whistles [03:33] SonikkuAmerica.. Did you get the stylus working? [03:34] user242432: it works out of the box [03:34] user242432: As a mouse, yes... [03:34] user242432: its like a mouse [03:34] OOTB [03:34] user242432: you dont do anything to "get it working". it just works [03:34] but, its not a touch screen, if its like SonikkuAmerica and my friend's [03:34] holstein: Not a capacitive one, that is. [03:34] Ok. So i don't need to edit /etc/serial.conf then. [03:35] user242432: you shouldnt need to do *anything* [03:35] I ordered a stylus from the US. Just waiting for it to arrive. [03:35] Pen touch screens are known as a special type of resistive touch screen. [03:35] user242432: you can maybe use a part of a potato chip bag [03:36] maybe not.. but it wouldnt hurt to try.. [03:36] Does this stylus connect to the pc with a cable? How does it work? [03:36] holstein: I doubt that'll work as a stylus... there's a chip inside the stylus that interacts with the screen on the same channel. [03:36] user242432: check the manual at the site.. the one i saw had no cable [03:36] how does the pc detect the stylus ? that's what i can't understand [03:36] SonikkuAmerica: yeah.. i think the potato chip bag trick works on the ones you can use your finger on [03:36] holstein: Like Palm Pilots. [03:36] user242432: the chip that SonikkuAmerica just referenced [03:37] wifi you mean. [03:37] user242432: no.. [03:37] user242432: far from that.. just via the screen... [03:37] http://www.tablet4u.co.uk/techinfo.html <<< Here's a good explanation, complete with diagram. It's an electromagnetic resistance touch screen. [03:39] thanks for that. Looks like i'll just have to wait for the stylus to arrive then.. Otherwise the PC seems to work fine. [03:39] audio is slightly tinny though. [03:40] It would be... it's just a cheap chip. [05:44] greetings I am having some troule connecting via ssh from outside my local network. I have port 22 forwarded. I am currently running 4 csgo servers and a minecraft server. I can ping my server from outside. I can ssh into server from within my local network no worries. Any suggestions on where to look. When I try to connect from outside I get "No route to host" this is a headless ubuntu server, ive tried asking in there channel ut no one is there. I use [05:44] lubuntu on all other pc's [07:26] On launching Synaptic Package Manager I get errors: http://pastebin.com/HPqZ8zv8, this happened after reloading package info. If it helps I just installed lubuntu without an internet connection. [07:38] Real bad crackly audio on my fujitsu lifebook t4220. Audio worked fine on fedora 15. Any idea how to fix? [07:38] Should i install pusle? If so, what's the full suite of apps needed? [07:39] pulse [07:39] *tumbleweed* [07:40] It's quite quiet here right now... [07:41] x5ives.. Shhh..let them meditate upon my questions ;- ) [07:42] I've been waiting twelve minutes on my issue, you're the first to message since then. [07:44] Don't forget #ubuntu and #lxde chatrooms. [07:45] I might have to "do the rounds" myself soon. [07:46] like now. :- ) [07:57] Wait, you're in using Ubuntu? Why didn't you go to #ubuntu first? [07:58] I'm there now asking. [07:58] Yeah but why did you come here fisrt? [07:58] *first [07:58] If you're running Ubuntu. [07:58] Because I'm using the lubuntu desktop suite [07:58] ubuntu + lxde. Well it says i have Lubuntu at bootup now. [07:59] Ahh, did you install the metapackage. [07:59] ? [07:59] yes [07:59] i used the mini.iso net installer [08:00] Did you do it because gnome was too needy for your computer? [08:00] I stick to what I know best: lxde & i know a lot of tweaks for it. [08:01] Fair enough, just wondering 'cause that's why I did it. What OS did you first use LXDE in? [08:01] hmm can't remember now...Was a long time ago. Probably Debian or Ubuntu. [08:01] Ubuntu used LXDE? [08:02] Or did you install it manually? [08:02] I used the mini installer for a long time, although I could have used the official Lubuntu..can't remember. [08:03] What made you decide to use it, just wanted to try it out? [08:03] x5ives: google helps. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/e-the-package-lists-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-or-opened/ [08:03] it's closeness to windows so it's easy to use for noobs and windows users. [08:04] A windows user can easily transition to lxde without much hastles. Well I have no complaints from them ;- ) [08:04] user242432: ubuntu + lxde != lubuntu. e.g. pulse? not in lubuntu. [08:05] wxl: I used the ubuntu mini.iso web installer and I selected lubuntu desktop suite. [08:05] user242432: so how did you end up with pulse? [08:06] I didn't... I used pulse in fedora. [08:06] I want to install pulse but what metapackages do I need? [08:06] oh i misread that message up there. [08:06] pulse doesn't change your audio drivers [08:07] what drivers did you use in fedora? what are you using now? [08:07] are they different versions? [08:07] what about the kernel version? [08:07] this can help you kind of figure this all out, or at least get closer to the problem. [08:08] lspci -vvnn should give you plenty of information, though you'll have to dig for your audio device [08:08] Not sure. I'd have to reboot F15. Checking my drivers.. brb [08:09] wxl: #ubuntu basically gave me the same info, but thanks anyway :). [08:10] x5ives: and it didn't work? [08:10] Slow internet, still performing apt-get update. [08:10] user242432: lspci -vvnn | grep --after-context=10 -i audio should hone in on the specifics [08:10] Chipset: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [08:11] user242432: yeah yeah it's the driver the matters. i'm asking you to compare the drivers used on both os's [08:11] if one is using driver_a and one is using driver_b you should probably use the one that works :) [08:11] This is why I ask about Pulse: [08:11] I recently had a problem with usb audio not working in alsa. Then I installed Pulse and it worked fine. [08:12] So I'm assuming..just install Pulse and make it work. [08:12] you can certainly try [08:12] !info pulseaudio | user242432 [08:12] user242432: pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.1-0ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 883 kB, installed size 3228 kB [08:13] Sorry about that, accidentally closed pidgin. [08:13] So I'm sifting through apt-cache looking for which pulse metapackage I need..... [08:14] found pavucontrol (yes i want that)...and? [08:14] user242432: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pulseaudio [08:15] ah..i was searching for "apt-cache search pulse" [08:15] pulseaudio will instlal just about everything and as long as you don't request no recomments you'll get pauvucontrol etc [08:16] ok installing. [08:23] Didn't work & external speakers don't work either. [08:24] Will have to test again in fedora & check drivers etc. [08:25] I'll check my driver options. Sometimes *buntu disables driver options. [08:33] Where's the file that shows what driver optons are enabled? [08:34] Synaptic was open while performing apt-get update, I'm doing it again now, will it download everything again or just what it needs? [08:34] Like, what it already downloaded before, it won't download again right? [08:34] Never mind, it's done. [08:34] x5lives...just shutdown synaptic.. It should run the update manager automatically later on anyway [08:35] x5ives: synaptic and apt-get are trying to do the same thing. actually one should lock out the other one being used. they conflict with one another. only one at a time. [08:35] x5ives: you might run into further issues because of that. [08:35] user242432: it sppears modinfo should give you potential parameters [08:36] wxl..yes, but where is the file in /proc or wherever that stores records the options? [08:36] /proc/modules afaik [08:37] I know, I know, I closed Synaptic, apt-get update -ed, now I'm reloading package info in Synaptic. [08:38] apt-get update didn't return any errors this time. [08:38] x5ives: technically they use the same info, so if you apt-get update there's no need to update synaptic :) [08:39] Figured as much, why are some thing failing in Synaptic then? [08:39] *things [08:39] And what does "Hit" mean? [08:39] hard to say [08:39] i don't use synaptic [08:39] it's an unnecessary front end [08:40] it can have its own errors [08:40] Well, it's easy to search for packages in Synaptic. [08:40] so it is with apt-cache search something [08:41] synaptic makes it easy to browse for packages, but it's not particularly good or fast in comparison to apt-cache [08:41] So that's the command! I had a feeling there was an apt-get search! [08:41] :) [08:41] also there's apt-cache show which will give more info on a particular package [08:41] don't sudo apt-cache [08:41] not necessary [08:41] Just 'apt-cache query'? [08:41] search or show [08:42] apt-cache search plymouth, apt-cache show plymouth [08:42] etc. [08:42] technically it has other possibilities, but those are the things you'd probably most use. [08:42] either that or dotty (NOT) [08:42] apt-cache policy can be quite useful as well. apt-cache alone will tell you some more. [08:42] What is plymouth, I you're just using it as an example package but I'm still curious. [08:43] x5ives: more or less the boot up screen that's got lubuntu on it :) [08:43] Thanks, wondered that for some time. [08:43] What's dotty? [08:43] hahahahah [08:44] dotty - Generate package graphs for GraphViz [08:44] if that don't make sense, don't sweat it. it don't to most. [08:45] And what's GraphViz? [08:45] !info graphviz | x5ives [08:45] x5ives: graphviz (source: graphviz): rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.26.3-12ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 317 kB, installed size 863 kB [08:46] i should add, even to those that that makes sense, it still isn't necessarily useful or commonly used. i wouldn't sweat not grokking it. [08:47] when i had discrete math classes i composed all my notes in LaTeX (typsetting engine, kind of like what you wish html was) and used GraphViz to make e.g. tree diagrams and things. most people don't/won't/wouldn't use it. [08:47] mmmm latex [08:47] What you wish html was? [08:47] I should install it again [08:48] x5ives: just nevermind :) [08:48] Myrtti: it's good! [08:48] Rabbit hole... [08:48] I know, I used it at work and I do my CV with it [08:52] How do I find accurate internet speed, Connection information gives 100 Mb/s, that's not right. [08:53] I'll be back... [10:37] help [10:47] What's the problem? [10:52] If a program should run with only 'Depends' packages what is contained in 'Recommends' and 'Suggests'? [12:38] hello. I'm looking for some torrents to seed for 13.04. Which lubuntu versions eat the most traffic? [12:42] Is there a command to list a package's download size? [12:44] apt-cache show shows that [12:45] Specifically, how would I do it? [12:45] 'apt-cache search doesn [12:45] oops [12:46] 'apt-cache search' doesn't seem to show download sizes. [12:51] Found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/35956/how-to-see-size-of-a-package-in-terminal-prior-to-downloading, top answer suggests apt-cache --no-all-versions show $package | grep '^Size: ' [12:52] I tried apt-cache --no-all-versions show $kate | grep '^Size: ' but it returns E: No packages found, kate is a text editor. [12:52] Example package. [12:56] Someone on #ubuntu suggested 'apt-cache show packagename' [12:56] yeah I don't know why you tried $kate [12:57] myrtti@kengu:~$ apt-cache --no-all-versions show kate |grep ^Size: [12:57] Size: 878802 [12:57] apt-cache --no-all-versions show $package | grep '^Size: ' [12:58] ^ the example. [12:58] Do you see why I tried $kate? [12:59] because the example writer assumed too much, or too little [12:59] assumptions are bad :-( [12:59] True that. [12:59] But is that the download size? [13:00] well I just tried with an app that I've installed recently and the size matches with the cached deb file [13:01] so I suppose yet. [13:01] yes. [13:02] You and someone from #ubuntu just hiveminded. [13:02] oh, I'm wasting my time since you're already being responded to elsewhere. [13:02] yeah, LjL is like that. [13:02] You know them? [13:02] sure. [13:02] Hah. [13:02] Should that be an assumption? [13:03] Are they like semi-famous in the Ubuntu community or something? [13:03] LjL and I are both long time participants on Ubuntu IRC community. [13:04] Ahhh. [13:04] anyhoo, glad you got an answer [13:04] Is 'Size' in bytes? [13:05] Just regular bytes... [13:05] ? [13:06] google says yes. [13:07] or rather, 'info ls' [13:07] Ahh, thanks, sorry for being pushy, next time I'll google it myself. [13:07] How is google akin to 'info ls'? [13:07] don't worry, I got interested myself [13:08] Should have a 'b'. [13:08] google pointed me to an answer that quoted info ls [13:09] Ohhhh.. [13:09] "Normally the size is printed as a byte count without punctuation" [13:10] How did you find that so fast? 'info ls' look like a looooong document. [13:11] And there generally is no ctrl+f in terminal emulators. [13:11] What does this '_o>' mean? [13:12] Is that meant to look like command prompt stuffs, if I'm using the correct term. [13:12] Oh my! I'm spot on! [13:12] With the term that is, was I right though [13:12] ? [13:13] no, a person giving a salute ;-) [13:13] but yes, command prompt is what it looks like [13:13] Yeh, that was half-guess too, woot! [13:15] I get the 'o>' being the head and arm, but what's the '_' looks like their other arm pointing straight left, that's not right is it? [13:17] On a more related note, how about a command for listing a package and all it's dependencies' download size? [13:17] In total. [13:24] Myrtti: ? [13:25] sorry, had to call opticians [13:25] No problem. [13:26] well I suppose you could simulate the fetching [13:26] What's wrong with your eyes, if you don't mind me asking? [13:26] And what do you mean by that? [13:27] nature had a revenge on me, I was mowing the lawn on Sunday and the lawnmower ate my glasses [13:27] :-D [13:27] Ahh, but why do you have glasses in the first place? [13:29] Short or far sighted? Or something else? [13:29] Just curious, you don't have to answer. [13:29] Especially since this is #lubuntu. [13:33] yeah I can't actually wrangle man to give me enough information on how you'd get the total amount, apt-get -s doesn't print the size of the files it seems [13:36] Although I'm going to do this in a sec, did you try info instead? [13:37] in this case it contains the exact same info as man [13:39] Seriously, exact? I thought they were meant to be different? [13:42] developers and document writers take shortcuts sometimes [13:44] I think it's more consistent to include a note in one of the pages explaining how to read the other one. [17:34] How do I change my default window manager? [17:46] Sorry, didn't meant to disconnect before, figured it out. [17:47] Is there a way I can make xfwm4 look like openbox-lubuntu? [18:10] Never mind. [20:50] Is there any way to increase the amount of ram used by an intel GPU? [22:05] Hi buddy, someone speak French ? :) [22:35] Hello. When I install packages, I get the following error [22:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599580/ [22:36] bjrohan: "no space left on device" seems fairly self-explanatory :) [22:37] eg: the /boot partition is full [22:37] Hmm, because it only gives that when it comes to the kernel, I have installed many other programs all the while getting the message [22:38] Nevermind I see [22:39] /dev/sda1 233191 230673 0 100% /boot [22:40] bjrohan: So the idea would be to uninstall all the obsolete linux-image- [22:40] I suppose now I should figure out how to remedy that [22:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599586/ [22:41] How would I do that [22:43] bjrohan: you can use synaptics package manager, let me just dig you up a link for instructions [22:44] bjrohan: first do: uname -r to know what current kernel you have. then ls /boot to see what previous ones are there. Then sudo apt-get remove linux-image- for each of the older ones [22:44] the package manager won't start? [22:44] :-( [22:44] I did the uname -r [22:44] I then did a dpkg --list | grep linux-image [22:45] I have the list of all the old ones installed [22:45] Now just remove [22:45] bjrohan: Ah, good. You can use that list, aye [22:48] Leave say the newest 3? Also should I remove the ones with extra in them? [22:49] bjrohan: You can remove the "extras" packages for each older kernel if you like, or later it will usually say something about using apt-get autoremove when you do another install/update [22:50] ok [22:50] Thanks! [22:50] bjrohan: The latest 3 is fairly good, I'd say. That's what I keep around [22:52] How can I remedy the package manager not starting? I click the icon from the menu, it asks for my password, then nothing [22:54] hi [23:01] Wondering if any of you know a way to share internet (no ad-hoc) [23:11] !ics [23:11] If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing [23:11] n-iCe: Probably a lot of the stuff in the bot's link is Ubuntu-centric but could be used