| JoseeAntonioR | balloons: ping | 02:24 |
|---|---|---|
| balloons | JoseeAntonioR, pong | 02:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | balloons: are you hosting the hangouts at ubuntuonair? | 02:25 |
| balloons | JoseeAntonioR, if your wondering about the hangout for ubuntu on air this week.. it's been canceled :-) | 02:25 |
| JoseeAntonioR | you read my mind, then | 02:25 |
| balloons | lol.. I should say postponed actually.. to TBD | 02:25 |
| JoseeAntonioR | just let me know the dates so it can be on the calendar | 02:26 |
| balloons | sure thing.. | 02:26 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:24 |
| smartboyhw | Damn the Open Week doesn't fit:( | 07:58 |
| elfy | dholbach: when does this forum support stuff need to be done by? almost finished I think ... | 08:57 |
| dholbach | elfy, feel free to give me what you have | 09:01 |
| dholbach | and if there's thing we've got to change or fix later on we can still do it | 09:01 |
| elfy | well - the pad has been written on - just need to come up with a short bit to get over "deliver one-on-one problem solving over as much time as it takes. " | 09:03 |
| dholbach | ok cool | 09:03 |
| dholbach | I'll reply to some mails in the meantime | 09:03 |
| === hobgoblin is now known as elfy | ||
| dholbach | mhall119, so to me it looks like I should edit "Ubuntu: Main Index Template (index.php)", right? it looks like I can't change it - there's just a function name lookup button | 09:56 |
| dholbach | ah, "You need to make this file writable before you can save your changes. See the Codex for more information." | 10:12 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: where are you trying to edit it, through Wordpress? | 13:01 |
| dholbach | mhall119, yes | 13:02 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: hmmm, I always edited them locally and pushed them via bzr | 13:03 |
| dholbach | mhall119, maybe the permissions need changing? hm | 13:03 |
| dholbach | balloons: does the page look good? | 13:03 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: is the instance still running? | 13:10 |
| dholbach | mhall119, they're doing some maintenance right now | 13:15 |
| elfy | dholbach: we think we're done with etherpad now - thanks for letting us know | 13:17 |
| smartboyhw | elfy: Thanks:) | 13:17 |
| dholbach | elfy, awesome | 13:17 |
| smartboyhw | Now waiting for IRCC and LoCoV | 13:18 |
| smartboyhw | oops, LoCoC | 13:18 |
| jcastro | elfy: ping | 13:18 |
| elfy | jcastro: pong | 13:18 |
| jcastro | hey so I think the forums are missing from the template | 13:18 |
| jcastro | which is why any site with the newer design is missing it | 13:18 |
| elfy | template? | 13:18 |
| elfy | oic | 13:19 |
| jcastro | I think if we fix the template it'll work | 13:19 |
| jcastro | the wordpress template | 13:19 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: do you know who we can talk to on the webteam to fix the template they use for all .ubuntu.com sites? | 13:19 |
| elfy | not sure what that template is for though | 13:19 |
| jcastro | those little boxes, etc. | 13:19 |
| jcastro | are reusable widgets they use on all ubuntu sites | 13:19 |
| elfy | oh right - if it's the cause of the missing from website thing - then that'd cheer us up no end ;) | 13:20 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 13:20 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: I'm not sure I understand what you mean fix the template | 13:20 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: You want me to review finding help section of website? | 13:21 |
| dholbach | there's not much on there , but sure :) | 13:21 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: so like the "ubuntu" theme we're using everywhere? | 13:21 |
| cjohnston | ok | 13:21 |
| cjohnston | Why should the forums be in that? nothing else is that I'm aware of | 13:22 |
| jcastro | I'm not talking about the forums theme | 13:22 |
| jcastro | but putting a link like "Check out our forums here!" in those little community boxes | 13:22 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: ACK :P | 13:22 |
| jcastro | I mean, we put mailing lists there | 13:22 |
| jcastro | which is the equivalent of punching people in the face | 13:22 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, cool | 13:23 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: can you show me an example of a wordpress site that says that? | 13:23 |
| jcastro | https://juju.ubuntu.com/community/ | 13:23 |
| jcastro | I just cloned the theme | 13:23 |
| jcastro | the "other ways to get involved" | 13:24 |
| cjohnston | where did you get the theme from? | 13:26 |
| jcastro | I don't remember | 13:27 |
| jcastro | I think from developer.u.c? | 13:27 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: I think so, yeah | 13:27 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: I would guess ant.. I'm still having trouble understanding the issue though.. you (or someone) put links to IRC, ML, etc | 13:28 |
| jcastro | ok so like, I didn't make up juju.u.c on my own | 13:29 |
| jcastro | I stole the design from developer.u.c | 13:29 |
| cjohnston | developer.u.c has a link to the forum | 13:29 |
| jcastro | hmmm, wtf, how come I don't have one | 13:30 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: because you didn't add one? | 13:30 |
| jcastro | hrmph | 13:31 |
| jcastro | well, I'm getting a redo in 2 weeks or so anyway at least | 13:31 |
| jcastro | I see they "accidentally" removed Debian from the footer | 13:32 |
| jcastro | again. | 13:32 |
| s-fox | Perhaps it is a regression? jcastro | 13:35 |
| jcastro | I would guess someone on the webteam just said "what's a debian?" and removed it. | 13:36 |
| daker | hhh | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | jcastro lol | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | Seriously? | 13:37 |
| jcastro | :) | 13:37 |
| elfy | he he he - my kids were gullible for years ... | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | jcastro: That guy should get fired for not knowing what's a Debian…:P | 13:38 |
| jcastro | elfy: looks like bug is fixed | 14:05 |
| elfy | yea - was quick - I passed on my thanks to Ant Dillon | 14:05 |
| s-fox | yep, good job :) | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: Hmm the countdown bug was fixed. | 14:06 |
| elfy | jcastro: do you know who I need to ask to get meetbot into #ubuntuforums ? - I made an error booking ubuntu-meeting so FC is having to use that channel this weekend | 14:11 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, cool | 14:11 |
| jcastro | I think someone in #ubuntu-irc? | 14:11 |
| * jcastro is gleefully bot-dumb | 14:11 | |
| elfy | ok cheers | 14:11 |
| elfy | I try to be ... | 14:11 |
| dholbach | mhall119, seems to be back now | 14:22 |
| balloons | elfy, you assk meetbot nicely | 14:22 |
| balloons | I hear he likes presents.. | 14:22 |
| elfy | oh I'll be really kind :) | 14:23 |
| s-fox | important question, how do we get rid of the bot when we're done? | 14:23 |
| s-fox | just kick it? | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | you dont just leave it there | 14:24 |
| elfy | I'll ask them that as well s-fox | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | then you dont have to ask them every time you need it | 14:24 |
| balloons | s-fox, leave it and dump it.. he'll never come now! | 14:24 |
| s-fox | oh actually i know how to get rid of it :) | 14:24 |
| elfy | we'd not need it again czajkowski - I just made a mistake when booking -meeting - we'd rather have our FC meetings in the right room as we normally do | 14:25 |
| elfy | a social channel isn't the best place to have a meeting - and we like our meetings to be logged obviously | 14:26 |
| dholbach | balloons: I'm still not sure, is http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality OK now? :) | 14:26 |
| czajkowski | elfy: fair enough could lave it there in case you need it again, it doesn't bite | 14:26 |
| balloons | dholbach, I was going to have a once over again today | 14:26 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 14:26 |
| balloons | you'll get another email from me :-) | 14:26 |
| elfy | czajkowski: no - but we'd just get people playing with it - but it's not that big a deal | 14:27 |
| balloons | lololol elfy .. methinks czajkowski has never been to #ubuntu-forums | 14:27 |
| elfy | :) | 14:27 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jcastro: hey, is there any official announcement for the charm school I can link to the UWN? | 14:27 |
| JoseeAntonioR | s/to/from | 14:28 |
| czajkowski | balloons: :) | 14:29 |
| jcastro | JoseeAntonioR: it's on the juju list, I CCed you directly | 14:30 |
| jcastro | but it's the same email | 14:30 |
| jcastro | also on my blog in a few | 14:30 |
| JoseeAntonioR | great, thanks! | 14:30 |
| jcastro | from now on I'll direct CC the news team | 14:31 |
| jcastro | I figure it's easier than | 14:31 |
| jcastro | pleia2: hey pleia! New announcement! | 14:31 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: learned how to get news on the fidge, is news worthy tbh :) | 14:32 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jcastro: I can take care of it if you'd like, she's away | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | jcastro: I thought you did CC news team | 14:32 |
| jcastro | I did | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | that whole wedding thing :) \o/ | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | As seen from what I received | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | czajkowski: What what? pleia2? | 14:32 |
| jcastro | hey | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | smartboyhw: yes | 14:32 |
| elfy | czajkowski: good news is always good news | 14:33 |
| smartboyhw | czajkowski: :) | 14:33 |
| jcastro | does anyone know how to make the Google Hangout link in a recurring calendar be able to be recorded? | 14:33 |
| czajkowski | dearest updates please hurrry up so I can continue testing 20 mins and counting | 14:33 |
| smartboyhw | elfy: I think no news is good news:P | 14:33 |
| elfy | wait till you're my age - sometimes no news is not too good ;) | 14:34 |
| balloons | lol | 14:34 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jcastro: all hangouts get recorded | 14:35 |
| smartboyhw | elfy: LOL | 14:35 |
| jono | hey all | 14:35 |
| s-fox | hello jono | 14:35 |
| elfy | hi jono | 14:35 |
| smartboyhw | Hi jono | 14:36 |
| jcastro | JoseeAntonioR: there's no record button on our team hangouts | 14:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jcastro: oh, you mean private hangouts | 14:37 |
| jcastro | yeah | 14:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | lemme check | 14:38 |
| jcastro | I want to record the weekly charm meetings | 14:38 |
| jcastro | but other than mailing everyone with a new link I can't find a way to record stuff | 14:38 |
| jono | jcastro, I don't think you can do it | 14:40 |
| jono | jcastro, maybe use a desktop recorder? | 14:40 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jcastro: maybe you can do it on-air and not link it anywhere | 14:40 |
| elfy | dholbach: wonder if the live support chat bit of http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-find-support should refer to the webchat possibilities - and I thought empathy was default | 14:41 |
| dholbach | elfy, yeah - good question - maybe it makes more sense to link to webchat instances somewhere | 14:42 |
| dholbach | because a lot of people will find it too much already to configure empathy to join irc | 14:42 |
| dholbach | not even sure if telepathy-idle is installed by default | 14:42 |
| s-fox | woo new version of soapui #airpunch | 14:42 |
| jcastro | jono: I was thinking of just doing a normal hangout, and then send everyone a new link | 14:42 |
| jono | jcastro, right | 14:43 |
| elfy | dholbach: I'd not know how to set that - but I can reword it to suit using webchats | 14:43 |
| dholbach | I'm happy to just add links to the channels when I move it over | 14:43 |
| jcastro | not ideal but I need to get these meetings in the public more than I care about inconveniencing people, heh | 14:43 |
| elfy | dholbach: ok - I'll word it better and leave it for you to add channels | 14:43 |
| dholbach | thanks! | 14:43 |
| elfy | no idea why gaim is there lol | 14:44 |
| dholbach | might be old content | 14:44 |
| elfy | very old lol | 14:45 |
| dholbach | haha | 14:46 |
| dholbach | "On April 6, 2007, the project development team announced the results of their settlement with AOL, which included a series of name changes: Gaim became Pidgin, ..." | 14:46 |
| dholbach | from wikipedia | 14:46 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 14:46 |
| elfy | lol | 14:46 |
| elfy | re worded that - just needs suitable links for the 4 main channels | 14:48 |
| dholbach | ok cool | 14:48 |
| dholbach | thanks | 14:48 |
| elfy | checked the page over while I was there | 14:48 |
| dholbach | elfy, and it's looking all right to you? | 14:50 |
| elfy | seems to make sense to me :) | 14:51 |
| dholbach | great | 14:51 |
| jono | mhall119, jcastro call? | 15:00 |
| JoseeAntonioR | dholbach: hey, would you like to do an intro to ubuntu development during openweek? :) | 15:48 |
| dholbach | when is UOW again? | 15:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | 21-22 may, 13-18 UTC | 15:49 |
| dholbach | sure why not | 15:51 |
| dholbach | the earlier the better basically | 15:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, on 21 or 22? | 15:54 |
| JoseeAntonioR | all slots are open | 15:54 |
| dholbach | I'm happy either way | 15:54 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, let's start with you as last time | 15:55 |
| JoseeAntonioR | that'd be 21st from 13 to 14 UTC, thanks a bunch! | 15:56 |
| czajkowski | dholbach: I seem to be lost on the loco support pad, which pad and what kinda infomration is needed as we already have a lot of the support and contact information on the other pad | 15:58 |
| * JoseeAntonioR runs to class | 15:58 | |
| dholbach | thanks JoseeAntonioR | 16:00 |
| dholbach | czajkowski, I'm happy for us to just have loco stuff on there and just mention loco teams in passing on other pads | 16:00 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: I"m still waiting input from IRCC:( | 16:07 |
| czajkowski | dholbach: coolbhavi SergioMenesesAFK http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support this page right ? | 16:08 |
| czajkowski | just want to make sure | 16:08 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, sounds good | 16:08 |
| dholbach | czajkowski, that page should just have a little bit of loco bits in there | 16:08 |
| dholbach | http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos might be the main loco page | 16:09 |
| SergioMeneses | hi czajkowski dholbach | 16:09 |
| * SergioMeneses is reading | 16:09 | |
| dholbach | all right my friends - I've got to dash - so I'll leave you guys to it | 16:09 |
| dholbach | please update the wiki, so I know which page to update on the test instance tomorrow | 16:10 |
| dholbach | hugs hugs! :) | 16:10 |
| SergioMeneses | dholbach, bye | 16:10 |
| * czajkowski hugs dholbach | 16:10 | |
| czajkowski | enjoy a nice cuppa tea :) | 16:10 |
| dholbach | :) | 16:11 |
| dholbach | will do | 16:11 |
| SergioMeneses | czajkowski, it looks ok for me but I'm agree with dholbach | 16:11 |
| SergioMeneses | we can add information from http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos | 16:11 |
| jono | balloons, pgraner says the images are not getting much testing | 16:12 |
| jono | I asked him to get in touch with you | 16:12 |
| jono | can you have an extra push here? | 16:12 |
| jono | and ensure pgraner is happy | 16:12 |
| smartboyhw | SergioMeneses, czajkowski: Just add how to support using LoCo teams, like #ubuntu-<locale> channels. | 16:13 |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, sounds good | 16:14 |
| balloons | jono, chatting away now | 16:14 |
| jono | thanks balloons | 16:16 |
| jono | can you provide me with an update later | 16:16 |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, maybe some reference to http://loco.ubuntu.com/ | 16:16 |
| SergioMeneses | I think it will be more helpful | 16:16 |
| AlanBell | smartboyhw: I added some IRC stuff to the end | 16:34 |
| SergioMeneses | AlanBell, great! +1 | 16:35 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: I need a list of Juju contributors this cycle for release notes | 18:00 |
| bkerensa | balloons: do you have a list of testers? | 18:01 |
| balloons | bkerensa, I was just pinging the release guys about that contributors section | 18:01 |
| bkerensa | balloons: I am adding it in | 18:02 |
| balloons | yes, I'll have a list of folks who helped test | 18:02 |
| bkerensa | cool just e-mail it to me | 18:02 |
| bkerensa | :) | 18:02 |
| balloons | will do :-) | 18:02 |
| SergioMeneses | bkerensa, balloons has a lot of nice charts | 18:02 |
| jcastro | bkerensa: I was about to ask you the same thing, heh | 18:03 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: LOL | 18:05 |
| jcastro | working it | 18:05 |
| bkerensa | oh dear I deleted some Quantal release notes :P *revert* | 18:17 |
| jcastro | jono: hey grumpt cat | 18:39 |
| jcastro | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-svcImFuhLSI/UXga9bHof-I/AAAAAAAAJIk/Ayp9TFI0zjE/s480/romeo+n+juliet.jpg | 18:39 |
| jono | jcastro, LOL | 18:39 |
| bkerensa | jono: I made some amazing chicken last night... I used a mix of sriracha, honey and pepper flakes to do the glaze | 18:40 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:40 |
| jcastro | My grill must be on it's way here | 18:42 |
| jcastro | I can tell because it's raining | 18:42 |
| jcastro | :-/ | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: you could come back here since its not raining now | 18:49 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:49 |
| jcastro | the beer is too strong for me there | 18:50 |
| jcastro | I know right ... first world problems | 18:51 |
| jcastro | hey jono | 19:24 |
| jcastro | ask me where you can find the list of coolest people in the world | 19:24 |
| jcastro | <jono> where can I find the list of the coolest people in the world? | 19:24 |
| jcastro | I am glad you asked! | 19:24 |
| jcastro | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers | 19:24 |
| jcastro | blam! first time I got my stuff in on time, heh. | 19:25 |
| mhall119 | lol | 19:32 |
| bkerensa | now just need dholbach to update that tonight | 19:34 |
| bkerensa | :d | 19:34 |
| bkerensa | needs to be done by tomorrow morning | 19:34 |
| popey | baaaah! | 22:10 |
| * popey created a blog post titled "Please don’t add pointless blog posts about pointless comments on bug reports" then decided not to publish | 22:10 | |
| czajkowski | popey: oh the this affects me too comments | 22:17 |
| czajkowski | please do publish | 22:17 |
| popey | heh | 22:18 |
| czajkowski | people need to learn how to use launchpad >:( | 22:18 |
| jcastro | lp bugs need flags so we can remove junk comments | 22:18 |
| czajkowski | it doe | 22:18 |
| czajkowski | s | 22:18 |
| czajkowski | I remove a lot of comments daily | 22:18 |
| mhall119 | popey: file a bug about the "affects me too" feature being abused, so I can mark it as affecting me | 22:18 |
| jcastro | yeah but for trusted users, that doesn't scale | 22:18 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: don't you mean comment :) | 22:18 |
| popey | but these are forums people they spend all day commenting on posts | 22:19 |
| popey | how can anyone be surprised when they.. | 22:19 |
| popey | comment on posts | 22:19 |
| popey | its not a massive problem by any stretch | 22:19 |
| czajkowski | except if you're on a lot of bugs and a lot of people do it daily | 22:19 |
| popey | blogging telling people not to comment is just as daft imo | 22:19 |
| czajkowski | it can get annoying trust me | 22:19 |
| popey | sure, so fix it ☻ | 22:19 |
| jcastro | flag -> this comment is not-constructive would be nice | 22:20 |
| jcastro | for everyone I mean | 22:20 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: ask-ubuntu style? | 22:20 |
| jcastro | yeah | 22:20 |
| mhall119 | and markdown support in bug descriptions | 22:20 |
| czajkowski | with only two lp enginners working on lp it's not gonna happen | 22:20 |
| popey | delete from comments where name = 'jcastro' | 22:20 |
| jcastro | if you make it easy for people to remove crap, they will remove it | 22:20 |
| jcastro | mhall119: there's markdown in there already iirc | 22:20 |
| mhall119 | *cough* wiki *cough* | 22:20 |
| czajkowski | currently on less 100 criticals and they're taking a week off next week to work on something but then back to criticals | 22:20 |
| popey | THIS IS CRITICAL! | 22:21 |
| popey | I must be allowed to downvote my peers! | 22:21 |
| * czajkowski marks invalid :) | 22:21 | |
| popey | I must be heard! | 22:21 |
| popey | etc | 22:21 |
| popey | i love watching jcastro's delete everything video | 22:21 |
| mhall119 | I deleted that video | 22:21 |
| popey | especially the bit where he gets downvoted by cjwatson | 22:21 |
| popey | thats my job! | 22:21 |
| popey | etc | 22:21 |
| jcastro | at the end of the day | 22:22 |
| jcastro | if a bugtracker is full of crap, developers won't want to use it | 22:22 |
| popey | In other news, I have Bittorrent Sync running on my Ubuntu phone | 22:22 |
| jcastro | and then real people with real problems get ignored | 22:22 |
| jcastro | I have it running at home, it's quite nice | 22:22 |
| mhall119 | aquarius needs to add a bittorrent client to Ubuntu One, so I can right-click a .torrent link and select "Download directly to Ubuntu One" | 22:23 |
| aquarius | you ain't the first person to think of that. | 22:23 |
| mhall119 | this is what I hate about being in a geek community, every time I joking suggest some outlandish idea, someone else has already suggested it seriously | 22:24 |
| czajkowski | 26 new projects registered on lp since my EOD at 6 today | 22:24 |
| czajkowski | I didnt review it for a week and we had over 200, that was a painful day to review them all | 22:24 |
| czajkowski | but lots of people do use LP for bugtracking for their projects not just code hosting | 22:24 |
| jcastro | mhall119: no, the even worse part is people will just say "great idea! Lmk when you've finished it!" | 22:25 |
| czajkowski | aquarius: popey either of ye in the office tomorrow or heading to release party? | 22:27 |
| popey | no. my car broke today | 22:27 |
| popey | need to get it fix0r3d | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | :( | 22:27 |
| popey | well, broke even more | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | am gonna head over to the beer festival on friday so may see you then | 22:28 |
| aquarius | not me. I have to be here tomorrow, and then travelling next week so I am trying to not go anywhere unti then | 22:28 |
| czajkowski | popey: did your RAT tickets arrive | 22:28 |
| popey | no | 22:28 |
| czajkowski | oh | 22:28 |
| popey | not yet, anohoo | 22:29 |
| popey | *anyhoo | 22:29 |
| czajkowski | aquarius: coming on the RAT | 22:29 |
| aquarius | ? | 22:29 |
| aquarius | oh, the real ale train? | 22:29 |
| aquarius | am not sure, yet | 22:29 |
| popey | chop chop, they sell out quick | 22:30 |
| czajkowski | what he said! | 22:30 |
| czajkowski | wonder did nick tate sign up for the entire design team :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2329-1304-release-party/ | 22:31 |
| popey | why not? | 22:31 |
| popey | seems a sensible use of resources | 22:31 |
| czajkowski | oh indeed | 22:31 |
| popey | of course he could have got everyone to leave a comment saying "me too" | 22:31 |
| czajkowski | just looks unusal to be a +more than 1 :) | 22:31 |
| popey | ZING! | 22:31 |
| czajkowski | popey: lol | 22:31 |
| czajkowski | right sleep time stupid o'clock train in the morning | 22:31 |
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