[02:24] balloons: ping [02:24] JoseeAntonioR, pong [02:25] balloons: are you hosting the hangouts at ubuntuonair? [02:25] JoseeAntonioR, if your wondering about the hangout for ubuntu on air this week.. it's been canceled :-) [02:25] you read my mind, then [02:25] lol.. I should say postponed actually.. to TBD [02:26] just let me know the dates so it can be on the calendar [02:26] sure thing.. [07:24] good morning [07:58] Damn the Open Week doesn't fit:( [08:57] dholbach: when does this forum support stuff need to be done by? almost finished I think ... [09:01] elfy, feel free to give me what you have [09:01] and if there's thing we've got to change or fix later on we can still do it [09:03] well - the pad has been written on - just need to come up with a short bit to get over "deliver one-on-one problem solving over as much time as it takes. " [09:03] ok cool [09:03] I'll reply to some mails in the meantime === hobgoblin is now known as elfy [09:56] mhall119, so to me it looks like I should edit "Ubuntu: Main Index Template (index.php)", right? it looks like I can't change it - there's just a function name lookup button [10:12] ah, "You need to make this file writable before you can save your changes. See the Codex for more information." [13:01] dholbach: where are you trying to edit it, through Wordpress? [13:02] mhall119, yes [13:03] dholbach: hmmm, I always edited them locally and pushed them via bzr [13:03] mhall119, maybe the permissions need changing? hm [13:03] balloons: does the page look good? [13:10] dholbach: is the instance still running? [13:15] mhall119, they're doing some maintenance right now [13:17] dholbach: we think we're done with etherpad now - thanks for letting us know [13:17] elfy: Thanks:) [13:17] elfy, awesome [13:18] Now waiting for IRCC and LoCoV [13:18] oops, LoCoC [13:18] elfy: ping [13:18] jcastro: pong [13:18] hey so I think the forums are missing from the template [13:18] which is why any site with the newer design is missing it [13:18] template? [13:19] oic [13:19] I think if we fix the template it'll work [13:19] the wordpress template [13:19] cjohnston: do you know who we can talk to on the webteam to fix the template they use for all .ubuntu.com sites? [13:19] not sure what that template is for though [13:19] those little boxes, etc. [13:19] are reusable widgets they use on all ubuntu sites [13:20] oh right - if it's the cause of the missing from website thing - then that'd cheer us up no end ;) [13:20] lol [13:20] jcastro: I'm not sure I understand what you mean fix the template [13:21] dholbach: You want me to review finding help section of website? [13:21] there's not much on there , but sure :) [13:21] cjohnston: so like the "ubuntu" theme we're using everywhere? [13:21] ok [13:22] Why should the forums be in that? nothing else is that I'm aware of [13:22] I'm not talking about the forums theme [13:22] but putting a link like "Check out our forums here!" in those little community boxes [13:22] dholbach: ACK :P [13:22] I mean, we put mailing lists there [13:22] which is the equivalent of punching people in the face [13:23] smartboyhw, cool [13:23] jcastro: can you show me an example of a wordpress site that says that? [13:23] https://juju.ubuntu.com/community/ [13:23] I just cloned the theme [13:24] the "other ways to get involved" [13:26] where did you get the theme from? [13:27] I don't remember [13:27] I think from developer.u.c? [13:27] jcastro: I think so, yeah [13:28] jcastro: I would guess ant.. I'm still having trouble understanding the issue though.. you (or someone) put links to IRC, ML, etc [13:29] ok so like, I didn't make up juju.u.c on my own [13:29] I stole the design from developer.u.c [13:29] developer.u.c has a link to the forum [13:30] hmmm, wtf, how come I don't have one [13:30] jcastro: because you didn't add one? [13:31] hrmph [13:31] well, I'm getting a redo in 2 weeks or so anyway at least [13:32] I see they "accidentally" removed Debian from the footer [13:32] again. [13:35] Perhaps it is a regression? jcastro [13:36] I would guess someone on the webteam just said "what's a debian?" and removed it. [13:36] hhh [13:36] jcastro lol [13:37] Seriously? [13:37] :) [13:38] he he he - my kids were gullible for years ... [13:38] jcastro: That guy should get fired for not knowing what's a Debian…:P [14:05] elfy: looks like bug is fixed [14:05] yea - was quick - I passed on my thanks to Ant Dillon [14:06] yep, good job :) [14:06] dholbach: Hmm the countdown bug was fixed. [14:11] jcastro: do you know who I need to ask to get meetbot into #ubuntuforums ? - I made an error booking ubuntu-meeting so FC is having to use that channel this weekend [14:11] smartboyhw, cool [14:11] I think someone in #ubuntu-irc? [14:11] * jcastro is gleefully bot-dumb [14:11] ok cheers [14:11] I try to be ... [14:22] mhall119, seems to be back now [14:22] elfy, you assk meetbot nicely [14:22] I hear he likes presents.. [14:23] oh I'll be really kind :) [14:23] important question, how do we get rid of the bot when we're done? [14:24] just kick it? [14:24] you dont just leave it there [14:24] I'll ask them that as well s-fox [14:24] then you dont have to ask them every time you need it [14:24] s-fox, leave it and dump it.. he'll never come now! [14:24] oh actually i know how to get rid of it :) [14:25] we'd not need it again czajkowski - I just made a mistake when booking -meeting - we'd rather have our FC meetings in the right room as we normally do [14:26] a social channel isn't the best place to have a meeting - and we like our meetings to be logged obviously [14:26] balloons: I'm still not sure, is http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality OK now? :) [14:26] elfy: fair enough could lave it there in case you need it again, it doesn't bite [14:26] dholbach, I was going to have a once over again today [14:26] ah ok [14:26] you'll get another email from me :-) [14:27] czajkowski: no - but we'd just get people playing with it - but it's not that big a deal [14:27] lololol elfy .. methinks czajkowski has never been to #ubuntu-forums [14:27] :) [14:27] jcastro: hey, is there any official announcement for the charm school I can link to the UWN? [14:28] s/to/from [14:29] balloons: :) [14:30] JoseeAntonioR: it's on the juju list, I CCed you directly [14:30] but it's the same email [14:30] also on my blog in a few [14:30] great, thanks! [14:31] from now on I'll direct CC the news team [14:31] I figure it's easier than [14:31] pleia2: hey pleia! New announcement! [14:32] jcastro: learned how to get news on the fidge, is news worthy tbh :) [14:32] jcastro: I can take care of it if you'd like, she's away [14:32] jcastro: I thought you did CC news team [14:32] I did [14:32] that whole wedding thing :) \o/ [14:32] As seen from what I received [14:32] czajkowski: What what? pleia2? [14:32] hey [14:32] smartboyhw: yes [14:33] czajkowski: good news is always good news [14:33] czajkowski: :) [14:33] does anyone know how to make the Google Hangout link in a recurring calendar be able to be recorded? [14:33] dearest updates please hurrry up so I can continue testing 20 mins and counting [14:33] elfy: I think no news is good news:P [14:34] wait till you're my age - sometimes no news is not too good ;) [14:34] lol [14:35] jcastro: all hangouts get recorded [14:35] elfy: LOL [14:35] hey all [14:35] hello jono [14:35] hi jono [14:36] Hi jono [14:37] JoseeAntonioR: there's no record button on our team hangouts [14:37] jcastro: oh, you mean private hangouts [14:37] yeah [14:38] lemme check [14:38] I want to record the weekly charm meetings [14:38] but other than mailing everyone with a new link I can't find a way to record stuff [14:40] jcastro, I don't think you can do it [14:40] jcastro, maybe use a desktop recorder? [14:40] jcastro: maybe you can do it on-air and not link it anywhere [14:41] dholbach: wonder if the live support chat bit of http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-find-support should refer to the webchat possibilities - and I thought empathy was default [14:42] elfy, yeah - good question - maybe it makes more sense to link to webchat instances somewhere [14:42] because a lot of people will find it too much already to configure empathy to join irc [14:42] not even sure if telepathy-idle is installed by default [14:42] woo new version of soapui #airpunch [14:42] jono: I was thinking of just doing a normal hangout, and then send everyone a new link [14:43] jcastro, right [14:43] dholbach: I'd not know how to set that - but I can reword it to suit using webchats [14:43] I'm happy to just add links to the channels when I move it over [14:43] not ideal but I need to get these meetings in the public more than I care about inconveniencing people, heh [14:43] dholbach: ok - I'll word it better and leave it for you to add channels [14:43] thanks! [14:44] no idea why gaim is there lol [14:44] might be old content [14:45] very old lol [14:46] haha [14:46] "On April 6, 2007, the project development team announced the results of their settlement with AOL, which included a series of name changes: Gaim became Pidgin, ..." [14:46] from wikipedia [14:46] lol [14:46] lol [14:48] re worded that - just needs suitable links for the 4 main channels [14:48] ok cool [14:48] thanks [14:48] checked the page over while I was there [14:50] elfy, and it's looking all right to you? [14:51] seems to make sense to me :) [14:51] great [15:00] mhall119, jcastro call? [15:48] dholbach: hey, would you like to do an intro to ubuntu development during openweek? :) [15:48] when is UOW again? [15:49] 21-22 may, 13-18 UTC [15:51] sure why not [15:52] the earlier the better basically [15:54] ok, on 21 or 22? [15:54] all slots are open [15:54] I'm happy either way [15:55] ok, let's start with you as last time [15:56] that'd be 21st from 13 to 14 UTC, thanks a bunch! [15:58] dholbach: I seem to be lost on the loco support pad, which pad and what kinda infomration is needed as we already have a lot of the support and contact information on the other pad [15:58] * JoseeAntonioR runs to class [16:00] thanks JoseeAntonioR [16:00] czajkowski, I'm happy for us to just have loco stuff on there and just mention loco teams in passing on other pads [16:07] dholbach: I"m still waiting input from IRCC:( [16:08] dholbach: coolbhavi SergioMenesesAFK http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support this page right ? [16:08] just want to make sure [16:08] smartboyhw, sounds good [16:08] czajkowski, that page should just have a little bit of loco bits in there [16:09] http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos might be the main loco page [16:09] hi czajkowski dholbach [16:09] * SergioMeneses is reading [16:09] all right my friends - I've got to dash - so I'll leave you guys to it [16:10] please update the wiki, so I know which page to update on the test instance tomorrow [16:10] hugs hugs! :) [16:10] dholbach, bye [16:10] * czajkowski hugs dholbach [16:10] enjoy a nice cuppa tea :) [16:11] :) [16:11] will do [16:11] czajkowski, it looks ok for me but I'm agree with dholbach [16:11] we can add information from http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos [16:12] balloons, pgraner says the images are not getting much testing [16:12] I asked him to get in touch with you [16:12] can you have an extra push here? [16:12] and ensure pgraner is happy [16:13] SergioMeneses, czajkowski: Just add how to support using LoCo teams, like #ubuntu- channels. [16:14] smartboyhw, sounds good [16:14] jono, chatting away now [16:16] thanks balloons [16:16] can you provide me with an update later [16:16] smartboyhw, maybe some reference to http://loco.ubuntu.com/ [16:16] I think it will be more helpful [16:34] smartboyhw: I added some IRC stuff to the end [16:35] AlanBell, great! +1 [18:00] jcastro: I need a list of Juju contributors this cycle for release notes [18:01] balloons: do you have a list of testers? [18:01] bkerensa, I was just pinging the release guys about that contributors section [18:02] balloons: I am adding it in [18:02] yes, I'll have a list of folks who helped test [18:02] cool just e-mail it to me [18:02] :) [18:02] will do :-) [18:02] bkerensa, balloons has a lot of nice charts [18:03] bkerensa: I was about to ask you the same thing, heh [18:05] jcastro: LOL [18:05] working it [18:17] oh dear I deleted some Quantal release notes :P *revert* [18:39] jono: hey grumpt cat [18:39] https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-svcImFuhLSI/UXga9bHof-I/AAAAAAAAJIk/Ayp9TFI0zjE/s480/romeo+n+juliet.jpg [18:39] jcastro, LOL [18:40] jono: I made some amazing chicken last night... I used a mix of sriracha, honey and pepper flakes to do the glaze [18:40] :D [18:42] My grill must be on it's way here [18:42] I can tell because it's raining [18:43] :-/ [18:49] jcastro: you could come back here since its not raining now [18:49] :D [18:50] the beer is too strong for me there [18:51] I know right ... first world problems [19:24] hey jono [19:24] ask me where you can find the list of coolest people in the world [19:24] where can I find the list of the coolest people in the world? [19:24] I am glad you asked! [19:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers [19:25] blam! first time I got my stuff in on time, heh. [19:32] lol [19:34] now just need dholbach to update that tonight [19:34] :d [19:34] needs to be done by tomorrow morning [22:10] baaaah! [22:10] * popey created a blog post titled "Please don’t add pointless blog posts about pointless comments on bug reports" then decided not to publish [22:17] popey: oh the this affects me too comments [22:17] please do publish [22:18] heh [22:18] people need to learn how to use launchpad >:( [22:18] lp bugs need flags so we can remove junk comments [22:18] it doe [22:18] s [22:18] I remove a lot of comments daily [22:18] popey: file a bug about the "affects me too" feature being abused, so I can mark it as affecting me [22:18] yeah but for trusted users, that doesn't scale [22:18] mhall119: don't you mean comment :) [22:19] but these are forums people they spend all day commenting on posts [22:19] how can anyone be surprised when they.. [22:19] comment on posts [22:19] its not a massive problem by any stretch [22:19] except if you're on a lot of bugs and a lot of people do it daily [22:19] blogging telling people not to comment is just as daft imo [22:19] it can get annoying trust me [22:19] sure, so fix it ☻ [22:20] flag -> this comment is not-constructive would be nice [22:20] for everyone I mean [22:20] jcastro: ask-ubuntu style? [22:20] yeah [22:20] and markdown support in bug descriptions [22:20] with only two lp enginners working on lp it's not gonna happen [22:20] delete from comments where name = 'jcastro' [22:20] if you make it easy for people to remove crap, they will remove it [22:20] mhall119: there's markdown in there already iirc [22:20] *cough* wiki *cough* [22:20] currently on less 100 criticals and they're taking a week off next week to work on something but then back to criticals [22:21] THIS IS CRITICAL! [22:21] I must be allowed to downvote my peers! [22:21] * czajkowski marks invalid :) [22:21] I must be heard! [22:21] etc [22:21] i love watching jcastro's delete everything video [22:21] I deleted that video [22:21] especially the bit where he gets downvoted by cjwatson [22:21] thats my job! [22:21] etc [22:22] at the end of the day [22:22] if a bugtracker is full of crap, developers won't want to use it [22:22] In other news, I have Bittorrent Sync running on my Ubuntu phone [22:22] and then real people with real problems get ignored [22:22] I have it running at home, it's quite nice [22:23] aquarius needs to add a bittorrent client to Ubuntu One, so I can right-click a .torrent link and select "Download directly to Ubuntu One" [22:23] you ain't the first person to think of that. [22:24] this is what I hate about being in a geek community, every time I joking suggest some outlandish idea, someone else has already suggested it seriously [22:24] 26 new projects registered on lp since my EOD at 6 today [22:24] I didnt review it for a week and we had over 200, that was a painful day to review them all [22:24] but lots of people do use LP for bugtracking for their projects not just code hosting [22:25] mhall119: no, the even worse part is people will just say "great idea! Lmk when you've finished it!" [22:27] aquarius: popey either of ye in the office tomorrow or heading to release party? [22:27] no. my car broke today [22:27] need to get it fix0r3d [22:27] :( [22:27] well, broke even more [22:28] am gonna head over to the beer festival on friday so may see you then [22:28] not me. I have to be here tomorrow, and then travelling next week so I am trying to not go anywhere unti then [22:28] popey: did your RAT tickets arrive [22:28] no [22:28] oh [22:29] not yet, anohoo [22:29] *anyhoo [22:29] aquarius: coming on the RAT [22:29] ? [22:29] oh, the real ale train? [22:29] am not sure, yet [22:30] chop chop, they sell out quick [22:30] what he said! [22:31] wonder did nick tate sign up for the entire design team :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2329-1304-release-party/ [22:31] why not? [22:31] seems a sensible use of resources [22:31] oh indeed [22:31] of course he could have got everyone to leave a comment saying "me too" [22:31] just looks unusal to be a +more than 1 :) [22:31] ZING! [22:31] popey: lol [22:31] right sleep time stupid o'clock train in the morning