[02:24] <JoseeAntonioR> balloons: ping
[02:24] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, pong
[02:25] <JoseeAntonioR> balloons: are you hosting the hangouts at ubuntuonair?
[02:25] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, if your wondering about the hangout for ubuntu on air this week.. it's been canceled :-)
[02:25] <JoseeAntonioR> you read my mind, then
[02:25] <balloons> lol.. I should say postponed actually.. to TBD
[02:26] <JoseeAntonioR> just let me know the dates so it can be on the calendar
[02:26] <balloons> sure thing..
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <smartboyhw> Damn the Open Week doesn't fit:(
[08:57] <elfy> dholbach: when does this forum support stuff need to be done by? almost finished I think ...
[09:01] <dholbach> elfy, feel free to give me what you have
[09:01] <dholbach> and if there's thing we've got to change or fix later on we can still do it
[09:03] <elfy> well - the pad has been written on - just need to come up with a short bit to get over "deliver one-on-one problem solving over as much time as it takes. "
[09:03] <dholbach> ok cool
[09:03] <dholbach> I'll reply to some mails in the meantime
[09:56] <dholbach> mhall119, so to me it looks like I should edit "Ubuntu: Main Index Template (index.php)", right? it looks like I can't change it - there's just a function name lookup button
[10:12] <dholbach> ah, "You need to make this file writable before you can save your changes. See the Codex for more information."
[13:01] <mhall119> dholbach: where are you trying to edit it, through Wordpress?
[13:02] <dholbach> mhall119, yes
[13:03] <mhall119> dholbach: hmmm, I always edited them locally and pushed them via bzr
[13:03] <dholbach> mhall119, maybe the permissions need changing? hm
[13:03] <dholbach> balloons: does the page look good?
[13:10] <mhall119> dholbach: is the instance still running?
[13:15] <dholbach> mhall119, they're doing some maintenance right now
[13:17] <elfy> dholbach: we think we're done with etherpad now - thanks for letting us know
[13:17] <smartboyhw> elfy: Thanks:)
[13:17] <dholbach> elfy, awesome
[13:18] <smartboyhw> Now waiting for IRCC and LoCoV
[13:18] <smartboyhw> oops, LoCoC
[13:18] <jcastro> elfy: ping
[13:18] <elfy> jcastro: pong
[13:18] <jcastro> hey so I think the forums are missing from the template
[13:18] <jcastro> which is why any site with the newer design is missing it
[13:18] <elfy> template?
[13:19] <elfy> oic
[13:19] <jcastro> I think if we fix the template it'll work
[13:19] <jcastro> the wordpress template
[13:19] <jcastro> cjohnston: do you know who we can talk to on the webteam to fix the template they use for all .ubuntu.com sites?
[13:19] <elfy> not sure what that template is for though
[13:19] <jcastro> those little boxes, etc.
[13:19] <jcastro> are reusable widgets they use on all ubuntu sites
[13:20] <elfy> oh right - if it's the cause of the missing from website thing - then that'd cheer us up no end ;)
[13:20] <smartboyhw> lol
[13:20] <cjohnston> jcastro: I'm not sure I understand what you mean fix the template
[13:21] <smartboyhw> dholbach: You want me to review finding help section of website?
[13:21] <dholbach> there's not much on there , but sure :)
[13:21] <jcastro> cjohnston: so like the "ubuntu" theme we're using everywhere?
[13:21] <cjohnston> ok
[13:22] <cjohnston> Why should the forums be in that? nothing else is that I'm aware of
[13:22] <jcastro> I'm not talking about the forums theme
[13:22] <jcastro> but putting a link like "Check out our forums here!" in those little community boxes
[13:22] <smartboyhw> dholbach: ACK :P
[13:22] <jcastro> I mean, we put mailing lists there
[13:22] <jcastro> which is the equivalent of punching people in the face
[13:23] <dholbach> smartboyhw, cool
[13:23] <cjohnston> jcastro: can you show me an example of a wordpress site that says that?
[13:23] <jcastro> https://juju.ubuntu.com/community/
[13:23] <jcastro> I just cloned the theme
[13:24] <jcastro> the "other ways to get involved"
[13:26] <cjohnston> where did you get the theme from?
[13:27] <jcastro> I don't remember
[13:27] <jcastro> I think from developer.u.c?
[13:27] <mhall119> jcastro: I think so, yeah
[13:28] <cjohnston> jcastro: I would guess ant.. I'm still having trouble understanding the issue though.. you (or someone) put links to IRC, ML, etc
[13:29] <jcastro> ok so like, I didn't make up juju.u.c on my own
[13:29] <jcastro> I stole the design from developer.u.c
[13:29] <cjohnston> developer.u.c has a link to the forum
[13:30] <jcastro> hmmm, wtf, how come I don't have one
[13:30] <mhall119> jcastro: because you didn't add one?
[13:31] <jcastro> hrmph
[13:31] <jcastro> well, I'm getting a redo in 2 weeks or so anyway at least
[13:32] <jcastro> I see they "accidentally" removed Debian from the footer
[13:32] <jcastro> again.
[13:35] <s-fox> Perhaps it is a regression? jcastro
[13:36] <jcastro> I would guess someone on the webteam just said "what's a debian?" and removed it.
[13:36] <daker> hhh
[13:36] <smartboyhw> jcastro lol
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Seriously?
[13:37] <jcastro> :)
[13:38] <elfy> he he he - my kids were gullible for years ...
[13:38] <smartboyhw> jcastro: That guy should get fired for not knowing what's a Debian…:P
[14:05] <jcastro> elfy: looks like bug is fixed
[14:05] <elfy> yea - was quick  - I passed on my thanks to Ant Dillon
[14:06] <s-fox> yep, good job :)
[14:06] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Hmm the countdown bug was fixed.
[14:11] <elfy> jcastro: do you know who I need to ask to get meetbot into #ubuntuforums ? - I made an error booking ubuntu-meeting so FC is having to use that channel this weekend
[14:11] <dholbach> smartboyhw, cool
[14:11] <jcastro> I think someone in #ubuntu-irc?
[14:11]  * jcastro is gleefully bot-dumb
[14:11] <elfy> ok cheers
[14:11] <elfy> I try to be ...
[14:22] <dholbach> mhall119, seems to be back now
[14:22] <balloons> elfy, you assk meetbot nicely
[14:22] <balloons> I hear he likes presents..
[14:23] <elfy> oh I'll be really kind :)
[14:23] <s-fox> important question,  how do we get rid of the bot when we're done?
[14:24] <s-fox> just kick it?
[14:24] <czajkowski> you dont just leave it there
[14:24] <elfy> I'll ask them that as well s-fox
[14:24] <czajkowski> then you dont have to ask them every time you need it
[14:24] <balloons> s-fox, leave it and dump it.. he'll never come now!
[14:24] <s-fox> oh actually i know how to get rid of it :)
[14:25] <elfy> we'd not need it again czajkowski - I just made a mistake when booking -meeting - we'd rather have our FC meetings in the right room as we normally do
[14:26] <elfy> a social channel isn't the best place to have a meeting - and we like our meetings to be logged obviously
[14:26] <dholbach> balloons: I'm still not sure, is http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality OK now? :)
[14:26] <czajkowski> elfy: fair enough could lave it there in case you need it again, it doesn't bite
[14:26] <balloons> dholbach, I was going to have a once over again today
[14:26] <dholbach> ah ok
[14:26] <balloons> you'll get another email from me :-)
[14:27] <elfy> czajkowski: no - but we'd just get people playing with it - but it's not that big a deal
[14:27] <balloons> lololol elfy .. methinks czajkowski has never been to #ubuntu-forums
[14:27] <elfy> :)
[14:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: hey, is there any official announcement for the charm school I can link to the UWN?
[14:28] <JoseeAntonioR> s/to/from
[14:29] <czajkowski> balloons: :)
[14:30] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: it's on the juju list, I CCed you directly
[14:30] <jcastro> but it's the same email
[14:30] <jcastro> also on my blog in a few
[14:30] <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks!
[14:31] <jcastro> from now on I'll direct CC the news team
[14:31] <jcastro> I figure it's easier than
[14:31] <jcastro> pleia2: hey pleia! New announcement!
[14:32] <czajkowski> jcastro: learned how to get news on the fidge, is news worthy tbh :)
[14:32] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: I can take care of it if you'd like, she's away
[14:32] <smartboyhw> jcastro: I thought you did CC news team
[14:32] <jcastro> I did
[14:32] <czajkowski> that whole wedding thing :) \o/
[14:32] <smartboyhw> As seen from what I received
[14:32] <smartboyhw> czajkowski: What what? pleia2?
[14:32] <jcastro> hey
[14:32] <czajkowski> smartboyhw: yes
[14:33] <elfy> czajkowski: good news is always good news
[14:33] <smartboyhw> czajkowski: :)
[14:33] <jcastro> does anyone know how to make the Google Hangout link in a recurring calendar be able to be recorded?
[14:33] <czajkowski> dearest updates please hurrry up so I can continue testing 20 mins and counting
[14:33] <smartboyhw> elfy: I think no news is good news:P
[14:34] <elfy> wait till you're my age - sometimes no news is not too good ;)
[14:34] <balloons> lol
[14:35] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: all hangouts get recorded
[14:35] <smartboyhw> elfy: LOL
[14:35] <jono> hey all
[14:35] <s-fox> hello jono
[14:35] <elfy> hi jono
[14:36] <smartboyhw> Hi jono
[14:37] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: there's no record button on our team hangouts
[14:37] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: oh, you mean private hangouts
[14:37] <jcastro> yeah
[14:38] <JoseeAntonioR> lemme check
[14:38] <jcastro> I want to record the weekly charm meetings
[14:38] <jcastro> but other than mailing everyone with a new link I can't find a way to record stuff
[14:40] <jono> jcastro, I don't think you can do it
[14:40] <jono> jcastro, maybe use a desktop recorder?
[14:40] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: maybe you can do it on-air and not link it anywhere
[14:41] <elfy> dholbach: wonder if the live support chat bit of http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-find-support should refer to the webchat possibilities - and I thought empathy was default
[14:42] <dholbach> elfy, yeah - good question - maybe it makes more sense to link to webchat instances somewhere
[14:42] <dholbach> because a lot of people will find it too much already to configure empathy to join irc
[14:42] <dholbach> not even sure if telepathy-idle is installed by default
[14:42] <s-fox> woo new version of soapui #airpunch
[14:42] <jcastro> jono: I was thinking of just doing a normal hangout, and then send everyone a new link
[14:43] <jono> jcastro, right
[14:43] <elfy> dholbach: I'd not know how to set that - but I can reword it to suit using webchats
[14:43] <dholbach> I'm happy to just add links to the channels when I move it over
[14:43] <jcastro> not ideal but I need to get these meetings in the public more than I care about inconveniencing people, heh
[14:43] <elfy> dholbach: ok - I'll word it better and leave it for you to add channels
[14:43] <dholbach> thanks!
[14:44] <elfy> no idea why gaim is there lol
[14:44] <dholbach> might be old content
[14:45] <elfy> very old lol
[14:46] <dholbach> haha
[14:46] <dholbach> "On April 6, 2007, the project development team announced the results of their settlement with AOL, which included a series of name changes: Gaim became Pidgin, ..."
[14:46] <dholbach> from wikipedia
[14:46] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:46] <elfy> lol
[14:48] <elfy> re worded that - just needs suitable links for the 4 main channels
[14:48] <dholbach> ok cool
[14:48] <dholbach> thanks
[14:48] <elfy> checked the page over while I was there
[14:50] <dholbach> elfy, and it's looking all right to you?
[14:51] <elfy> seems to make sense to me :)
[14:51] <dholbach> great
[15:00] <jono> mhall119, jcastro call?
[15:48] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: hey, would you like to do an intro to ubuntu development during openweek? :)
[15:48] <dholbach> when is UOW again?
[15:49] <JoseeAntonioR> 21-22 may, 13-18 UTC
[15:51] <dholbach> sure why not
[15:52] <dholbach> the earlier the better basically
[15:54] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, on 21 or 22?
[15:54] <JoseeAntonioR> all slots are open
[15:54] <dholbach> I'm happy either way
[15:55] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, let's start with you as last time
[15:56] <JoseeAntonioR> that'd be 21st from 13 to 14 UTC, thanks a bunch!
[15:58] <czajkowski> dholbach: I seem to be lost on the loco support pad, which pad and what kinda infomration is needed as we already have a lot of the support and contact information on the other pad
[15:58]  * JoseeAntonioR runs to class
[16:00] <dholbach> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[16:00] <dholbach> czajkowski, I'm happy for us to just have loco stuff on there and just mention loco teams in passing on other pads
[16:07] <smartboyhw> dholbach: I"m still waiting input from IRCC:(
[16:08] <czajkowski> dholbach: coolbhavi SergioMenesesAFK http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support  this page right ?
[16:08] <czajkowski> just want to make sure
[16:08] <dholbach> smartboyhw, sounds good
[16:08] <dholbach> czajkowski, that page should just have a little bit of loco bits in there
[16:09] <dholbach> http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos might be the main loco page
[16:09] <SergioMeneses> hi czajkowski dholbach
[16:09]  * SergioMeneses is reading
[16:09] <dholbach> all right my friends - I've got to dash - so I'll leave you guys to it
[16:10] <dholbach> please update the wiki, so I know which page to update on the test instance tomorrow
[16:10] <dholbach> hugs hugs! :)
[16:10] <SergioMeneses> dholbach, bye
[16:10]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[16:10] <czajkowski> enjoy a nice cuppa tea :)
[16:11] <dholbach> :)
[16:11] <dholbach> will do
[16:11] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, it looks ok for me but I'm agree with dholbach
[16:11] <SergioMeneses> we can add information from http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos
[16:12] <jono> balloons, pgraner says the images are not getting much testing
[16:12] <jono> I asked him to get in touch with you
[16:12] <jono> can you have an extra push here?
[16:12] <jono> and ensure pgraner is happy
[16:13] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, czajkowski: Just add how to support using LoCo teams, like #ubuntu-<locale> channels.
[16:14] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, sounds good
[16:14] <balloons> jono, chatting away now
[16:16] <jono> thanks balloons
[16:16] <jono> can you provide me with an update later
[16:16] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, maybe some reference to http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[16:16] <SergioMeneses> I think it will be more helpful
[16:34] <AlanBell> smartboyhw: I added some IRC stuff to the end
[16:35] <SergioMeneses> AlanBell, great! +1
[18:00] <bkerensa> jcastro: I need a list of Juju contributors this cycle for release notes
[18:01] <bkerensa> balloons: do you have a list of testers?
[18:01] <balloons> bkerensa, I was just pinging the release guys about that contributors section
[18:02] <bkerensa> balloons: I am adding it in
[18:02] <balloons> yes, I'll have a list of folks who helped test
[18:02] <bkerensa> cool just e-mail it to me
[18:02] <bkerensa> :)
[18:02] <balloons> will do :-)
[18:02] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, balloons has a lot of nice charts
[18:03] <jcastro> bkerensa: I was about to ask you the same thing, heh
[18:05] <bkerensa> jcastro: LOL
[18:05] <jcastro> working it
[18:17] <bkerensa> oh dear I deleted some Quantal release notes :P *revert*
[18:39] <jcastro> jono: hey grumpt cat
[18:39] <jcastro> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-svcImFuhLSI/UXga9bHof-I/AAAAAAAAJIk/Ayp9TFI0zjE/s480/romeo+n+juliet.jpg
[18:39] <jono> jcastro, LOL
[18:40] <bkerensa> jono: I made some amazing chicken last night... I used a mix of sriracha, honey and pepper flakes to do the glaze
[18:40] <bkerensa> :D
[18:42] <jcastro> My grill must be on it's way here
[18:42] <jcastro> I can tell because it's raining
[18:43] <jcastro> :-/
[18:49] <bkerensa> jcastro: you could come back here since its not raining now
[18:49] <bkerensa> :D
[18:50] <jcastro> the beer is too strong for me there
[18:51] <jcastro> I know right ... first world problems
[19:24] <jcastro> hey jono
[19:24] <jcastro> ask me where you can find the list of coolest people in the world
 where can I find the list of the coolest people in the world?
[19:24] <jcastro> I am glad you asked!
[19:24] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers
[19:25] <jcastro> blam! first time I got my stuff in on time, heh.
[19:32] <mhall119> lol
[19:34] <bkerensa> now just need dholbach to update that tonight
[19:34] <bkerensa> :d
[19:34] <bkerensa> needs to be done by tomorrow morning
[22:10] <popey> baaaah!
[22:10]  * popey created a blog post titled "Please don’t add pointless blog posts about pointless comments on bug reports" then decided not to publish
[22:17] <czajkowski> popey: oh the this affects me too comments
[22:17] <czajkowski> please do publish
[22:18] <popey> heh
[22:18] <czajkowski> people need to learn how to use launchpad >:(
[22:18] <jcastro> lp bugs need flags so we can remove junk comments
[22:18] <czajkowski> it doe
[22:18] <czajkowski> s
[22:18] <czajkowski> I remove a lot of comments daily
[22:18] <mhall119> popey: file a bug about the "affects me too" feature being abused, so I can mark it as affecting me
[22:18] <jcastro> yeah but for trusted users, that doesn't scale
[22:18] <czajkowski> mhall119: don't you mean comment :)
[22:19] <popey> but these are forums people they spend all day commenting on posts
[22:19] <popey> how can anyone be surprised when they..
[22:19] <popey> comment on posts
[22:19] <popey> its not a massive problem by any stretch
[22:19] <czajkowski> except if you're on a lot of bugs and a lot of people do it daily
[22:19] <popey> blogging telling people not to comment is just as daft imo
[22:19] <czajkowski> it can get annoying trust me
[22:19] <popey> sure, so fix it ☻
[22:20] <jcastro> flag -> this comment is not-constructive would be nice
[22:20] <jcastro> for everyone I mean
[22:20] <mhall119> jcastro: ask-ubuntu style?
[22:20] <jcastro> yeah
[22:20] <mhall119> and markdown support in bug descriptions
[22:20] <czajkowski> with only two lp enginners working on lp it's not gonna happen
[22:20] <popey> delete from comments where name = 'jcastro'
[22:20] <jcastro> if you make it easy for people to remove crap, they will remove it
[22:20] <jcastro> mhall119: there's markdown in there already iirc
[22:20] <mhall119> *cough* wiki *cough*
[22:20] <czajkowski> currently on less 100 criticals and they're taking a week off next week to work on something but then back to criticals
[22:21] <popey> THIS IS CRITICAL!
[22:21] <popey> I must be allowed to downvote my peers!
[22:21]  * czajkowski marks invalid :)
[22:21] <popey> I must be heard!
[22:21] <popey> etc
[22:21] <popey> i love watching jcastro's delete everything video
[22:21] <mhall119> I deleted that video
[22:21] <popey> especially the bit where he gets downvoted by cjwatson
[22:21] <popey> thats my job!
[22:21] <popey> etc
[22:22] <jcastro> at the end of the day
[22:22] <jcastro> if a bugtracker is full of crap, developers won't want to use it
[22:22] <popey> In other news, I have Bittorrent Sync running on my Ubuntu phone
[22:22] <jcastro> and then real people with real problems get ignored
[22:22] <jcastro> I have it running at home, it's quite nice
[22:23] <mhall119> aquarius needs to add a bittorrent client to Ubuntu One, so I can right-click a .torrent link and select "Download directly to Ubuntu One"
[22:23] <aquarius> you ain't the first person to think of that.
[22:24] <mhall119> this is what I hate about being in a geek community, every time I joking suggest some outlandish idea, someone else has already suggested it seriously
[22:24] <czajkowski> 26 new projects registered on lp since my EOD at 6 today
[22:24] <czajkowski> I didnt review it for a week and we had over 200, that was a painful day to review them all
[22:24] <czajkowski> but lots of people do use LP for bugtracking for their projects not just code hosting
[22:25] <jcastro> mhall119: no, the even worse part is people will just say "great idea! Lmk when you've finished it!"
[22:27] <czajkowski> aquarius: popey either of ye in the office tomorrow or heading to release party?
[22:27] <popey> no. my car broke today
[22:27] <popey> need to get it fix0r3d
[22:27] <czajkowski> :(
[22:27] <popey> well, broke even more
[22:28] <czajkowski> am gonna head over to the beer festival on friday so may see you then
[22:28] <aquarius> not me. I have to be here tomorrow, and then travelling next week so I am trying to not go anywhere unti then
[22:28] <czajkowski> popey: did your RAT tickets arrive
[22:28] <popey> no
[22:28] <czajkowski> oh
[22:29] <popey> not yet, anohoo
[22:29] <popey> *anyhoo
[22:29] <czajkowski> aquarius: coming on the RAT
[22:29] <aquarius> ?
[22:29] <aquarius> oh, the real ale train?
[22:29] <aquarius> am not sure, yet
[22:30] <popey> chop chop, they sell out quick
[22:30] <czajkowski> what he said!
[22:31] <czajkowski> wonder did nick tate sign up for the entire design team :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2329-1304-release-party/
[22:31] <popey> why not?
[22:31] <popey> seems a sensible use of resources
[22:31] <czajkowski> oh indeed
[22:31] <popey> of course he could have got everyone to leave a comment saying "me too"
[22:31] <czajkowski> just looks unusal to be a +more than 1 :)
[22:31] <popey> ZING!
[22:31] <czajkowski> popey: lol
[22:31] <czajkowski> right sleep time stupid o'clock train in the morning