robrumterry (or anybody really), I need a bit of help with a packaging issue. I need to know the difference between debian/tmp and debian/binary-package-name and what kind of logic DH uses to pick which of those it uses. I've got a package where I'm trying to build multiple binary packages and dh_install is dumping files from both binary packages into debian/tmp where they clobber each other. Some documentation indicates that00:02
robrudebian/[binary-package-name] is the default, but it's not using that and I'm not sure how to make it use that.00:02
TheMusorobru: I think dh checks to see if there are multiple binary packages defined in the control file. If so, then by default, debian/tmp is used as the temporary install location.00:04
TheMusorobru: If there is only one package, then the files are just put into debian/binary-package-name.00:04
TheMusorobru: You may need to tell dh_install to use a different location to dump files for each binary package.00:05
robruTheMuso, oooooooh, ok. what I'm doing is trying to build two different binaries (with different ./config opts) from a single source tree, and then dh_install is just dumping the results of both into the same debian/tmp, one clobbering the other. so I guess I'll have to use the -P option to force it to build in separate tmpdirs to avoid clobbering each toehr00:06
robruTheMuso, heh, yeah.00:06
robruTheMuso, thanks00:06
TheMusorobru: np.00:06
robruTheMuso, for some reason I was expecting debian/tmp to be used for a single binary package, and that if you had multiple packages it would be smart enough to start using debian/binary-package-name but I guess my situation seems to be opposite of what the debian developers were anticipating (multiple different builds VS. one build split into separate packages)00:07
TheMusorobru: Yeah, but thats what overrides are for right, to deal with those odd situations. :(00:07
robruTheMuso, yeah for sure, just a matter of correcting my expectations. was confused about why it was doing certain things certain ways00:08
robert_ancellGunnarHj, ping00:26
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darkxstpitti, Laney https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/117210503:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 1172105 in systemd (Ubuntu) "org.freedesktop.login1.PowerOff() call doesnt work" [Undecided,New]03:18
pittiGood morning05:33
pittidarkxst: duped to bug 1171504, that one already has a patch05:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 1171504 in systemd (Ubuntu) "org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.PowerOff doesn't work" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117150405:34
pitti(just blocked by freeze)05:34
pittidarkxst: ah, pretty much the same patch as Laney wrote :/05:38
darkxstpitti, no luck with the suspend on lid close bug though, it really looks like it should be handled by logind but doesnt06:00
pittidarkxst: right, we need a bug for this06:00
ubot2Launchpad bug 1160995 in Ubuntu GNOME "Suspend isn't triggered by lid close" [Medium,Confirmed]06:00
pittidarkxst: adjusted to be on my May queue06:01
pittidarkxst: if you want to fix that in raring, I think it's a lot easier to just call .Suspend from the power plugin06:02
mlankhorsttkamppeter_: if you're feeling lucky try the new touch branch06:02
pittiI expect the systemd patch to be quite intrusive, as we have to introduce listening to evdev, etc.06:02
mlankhorstdont add patches on top of it, it shouldn't be needed06:04
darkxstpitti, ok, can do that easy enough06:04
darkxstpitti, also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/117206206:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 1172062 in systemd (Ubuntu) "network manager icon does not correctly display status" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:06
pittidarkxst: do you have ConsoleKit installed?06:07
pittiargh, phone06:07
darkxstpitti, yes06:07
darkxstpitti, not sure how, systemd session tracking ever worked, given the broken configure.ac06:21
pittidarkxst: did you rebuild it to use logind?06:22
pittihttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+archive/logind has packages for dbus and NM (you'll need both for NM)06:22
darkxstpitti, yes I just rebased your packages against the current raring versions06:22
darkxstwell for NM06:23
darkxstand pulseaudio also06:23
tkamppeter_mlankhorst, are there .deb packages anywhere of this branch? Is it 1.13 or 1.14?07:16
mlankhorsttkamppeter_: just the git branch, the debian packaging of 1.14 xserver will work on it07:18
seb128hey desktopers07:46
pittibonjour seb12807:46
seb128pitti, salut, ça va ?07:46
pittiseb128: ça va bien !07:47
* pitti aime le soleil07:47
* seb128 aussi07:47
seb12821°C sunny forcasted today, 24°C sunny tomorrow, 13°C rainy friday, 8°C rainy saturday07:48
didrockshey seb128, pitti07:49
pittiso *just* when it starts to get really nice, we go to California07:50
seb128lut didrocks07:50
seb128pitti, it's "8°C rainy saturday" that you call really nice? ;-)07:50
seb128it seems like it's going to be ~15°C and rainy all week next week here07:50
pittiwell, at least for the next few days07:51
seb128yeah, this week is great ;-)07:52
pittioh, it doesn't actually seem to be that warm in Oakland either07:52
seb128I should get some icecream this afternoon07:52
pitti10 (night) to 19 (day) degrees07:52
seb128has 21-24°C next week07:53
seb128which is just perfect07:53
* didrocks is going to enjoy today and tomorrow on the balconey, surely07:54
darkxstpitti, any idea why systemd fails to build on ppa? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138154145/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.systemd_198-0ubuntu11~raring1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz07:59
pittidarkxst: I didn't see that one yet; perhaps that sched_prio test doesn't work in kvm in general, or it's just a glitch?08:00
pittiI certainly built systemd in my logind PPA, but I think that was before runnign the tests during build08:01
darkxstpitti, ok I will just disable the tests then08:01
pittidarkxst: just append a || true after the "make check"  call in override_dh_auto_test?08:02
darkxstpitti, ok08:02
seb128Laney, good morning08:03
Laneyhey seb12808:04
seb128mvo, hey08:08
mvohey seb12808:23
seb128mvo, wie gehts?08:23
mvoseb128: gut, danke!08:23
mvoseb128: how are yoU?08:23
seb128mvo, I'm good, thanks ;-)08:23
seb128mvo, I tested your small patch for s-c/unity-app-lens ddtp translations, works fine here ... will you submit a mr for it?08:24
mvoseb128: cool, will do08:25
mvoseb128: thanks a bunch!08:25
seb128mvo, danke08:25
seb128mvo, I was looking a bit at the preview and had some extra small questions08:25
mvoseb128: sure08:25
seb1281- where is stored the license info? in the xapian db?08:25
seb128in what format? is that a flag or text?08:25
seb128that's not translated in the ui atm, I wonder if there is a way to get it out translated or if the lens should just do08:26
seb128if strcmp(license, "free); then license = _("Free")08:26
seb128or something08:26
mvoseb128: give me a sec (or two) and I check08:28
seb128mvo, danke08:28
seb128mvo, and second question was: where do you get the "installed on" info from? it's displaying "None" for quite some apps for me08:28
mvoseb128: ok, once I wrote the MP I will look at this as well08:30
seb128mvo, thanks08:31
seb128mvo, feel free to ignore me if you are work or other stuff to do, there is no hurry ;-)08:31
seb128mvo, I just tracked some code bugs in the lenses and unity to fix some of the translation issues in the preview code and hit those on the way08:31
mvoseb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/software-center/fix-data-provider-i18n/+merge/16056508:32
mvoseb128: I would never ignore you :)08:32
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* seb128 hugs mvo08:32
* mvo hugs seb12808:32
darkxstpitti, more fun I guess :( Rejected:08:45
darkxstOrphaned debug packages: udev-udeb-dbgsym 198-0ubuntu12~raring2 (amd64), udev-dbgsym 198-0ubuntu12~raring2 (amd64), systemd-dbgsym 198-0ubuntu12~raring2 (amd64)08:45
pittidarkxst: can you please ask in #u-devel about this? infinity might know what's going on there08:50
Sweetsharkmoin everyone!09:19
mlankhorstg'day mate09:33
Sweetsharkseb128: So LO 4.0.3 is likely getting tagged today. _If_ we SRU anyway for bug 1085169, I wonder if we should carry that along as it brings along some ~100 fixes: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC109:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 1085169 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice Menus Stop Working even with libreoffice>=1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu4 and indicator-appmenu>=12.10.3-0ubuntu2.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108516909:35
Sweetsharkmlankhorst: hah, while I have one of you gnome guys here: bug 1153350 comment 16 suggests it is a gnome 3.6->3.8 update regression. Any suspicions or hint at what it might be?09:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 1153350 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice4 Global Menu Items Do Not Highlight on Mouse Hover" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115335009:39
mlankhorstwait, I'm gnome now?09:39
mlankhorstsorry to disappoint you :-)09:40
Sweetsharkmlankhorst: hrhr, everyone ever having used glib is a gnome guy from my POV ;)09:41
Sweetsharkmlankhorst: k, nevermind09:41
mlankhorstI'm on the other side of X09:41
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mvoseb128: sorry for the delay - so just to clarify, even with my patch the "Free" is not translated?10:21
mvoseb128: the installed-on is taken from /var/log/apt/history.log, so very old entries will not be there10:22
mvoseb128: I need to double check, but do you get very new entries?10:22
tkamppetermlankhorst, can I install xserver 1.14 simply into a Raring system without half the system getting uninstalled (or replaced by highly unstable packages of the next generation)?10:28
tkamppetermlankhorst, the branch does not build on my Raring system, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597997/10:34
tkamppetermlankhorst, the Debian packaging of xorg-server I have taken from xorg-server_1.14.0-0ubuntu0.1 from https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging, I have taken the source package and uupdated to the GIT branch.10:37
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mlankhorstjust wipe 02 patch10:51
mlankhorst02_hide_panoramix_symbol.diff will not apply, and is unneeded10:52
mlankhorstI don't see why you would lack  hw/xfree86/common/xf86Module.h though10:53
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tkamppetermlankhorst, I did the packaging of the .orig.tar.gz wrong. Rebuilt it, retrying ...11:04
mlankhorstah, I just build from git directly :-)11:08
mlankhorstdebuild -b, or if I need a source package..11:09
mlankhorstalias git-bpx='git-buildpackage --git-upstream-branch=upstream-experimental --git-upstream-tree=branch --git-ignore-branch --git-ignore-new --git-no-pristine-tar'11:09
tkamppetermlankhorst, my git has no debian/ directory. Are you in the same branch as me?11:12
mlankhorstit doesn't, but you can copy it over11:12
tkamppetermlankhorst, I am starting over with everything now, re-downloading cleanly and retrying ...11:16
tkamppetermlankhorst, I tried the debian of xorg-server_1.14.1-0ubuntu0.1 from the PPA but there os-use-libunwind-to-generate-backtraces.patch deos not apply. From which package version did you take the debian/dir?11:26
mlankhorstjust drop it11:27
mlankhorstthat's upstream11:27
tkamppetermlankhorst, yes, now it builds.11:29
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tkamppetermlankhorst, I think, now I have the path. I will cleanly re-download everything and start over ...11:32
seb128Sweetshark, hey, sorry I was out for some errand and lunch11:32
seb128Sweetshark, we should SRU 4.0.3 directly imho11:32
seb128Sweetshark, about the indicator bug, try pinging larsu and attente11:32
mlankhorsttkamppeter: but looks like it still triggers a bug for me in the first touch I do :-)11:32
* mlankhorst practiced11:32
seb128mvo, hey, my turn to be delayed :p11:33
tkamppetermlankhorst, what bug? Does it simply stuck down the left button as stock Raring does?11:33
mvoseb128: no worries11:34
mvoseb128: i have a meeting soon too but some minutes left11:34
seb128mvo, the license seems still untranslated to me11:34
mlankhorsttkamppeter: yeah, but fixing that was kind of the point of that branch11:34
mlankhorstah well!11:34
mlankhorstit no longer corrupts or leaks memory any more, at least11:35
seb128mvo, history.log ... does it count upgrades?11:35
seb128mvo, my laptop is an years old install :p11:35
tkamppetermlankhorst, so the branch contains a lot of shots at the bug but no hit at all?11:35
mlankhorsttkamppeter: no it does fix a lot of cases, just not the one I'm hitting11:35
mlankhorstI tried making sense of the touch code myself.. lets just say it's complicated11:36
seb128mvo, the oldest entry in history.log.gz* is 2012-07-02 for me11:36
seb128mvo, and my install is from 201011:36
tkamppetermlankhorst, Now I am stuck with http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598089/11:42
Sweetsharkseb128: k, thanks!11:42
tkamppetermlankhorst, perhaps the solution for touch on the desktop is Wayland or MIR. Perhaps X has grown too complicated to add this new technology ...11:43
mlankhorstnah it was layered wrongly, that's all11:44
mlankhorstAnd yeah lets just throw away everything to end up with something unproven, untested and not debugged instead because 1 thing is wrong, makes sense.. ._.11:45
mlankhorsttkamppeter: well something is still messed up there, I'm fairly sure video abi is not 7, and input abi is not 9..11:46
tkamppetermlankhorst, next try, I forgot to switch the branch, I hope in some days I will not forget anything of this complicated build sequence ...11:51
mlankhorstgit checkout ubuntu+1; git merge whot/touch-grab-race-condition-56578-v2; git checkout whot/touch-grab-race-condition-56578-v2 .; git checkout HEAD debian ChangeLog; git commit; dch 'yadda yadda'11:54
mlankhorstsomething like that11:54
mlankhorstand then git-bpx -S to create the diff11:55
tkamppeterI am compiling now, finally!12:01
tkamppetermlankhorst, ^^12:01
tkamppetermlankhorst, I did12:01
tkamppetermlankhorst, git clone ... to get the GIT12:01
tkamppetermlankhorst, git checkout -b ... ... to switch to the branch12:01
* mlankhorst only has 1 xserver git tree12:01
mlankhorstyou can have multiple remotes in 1 git tree12:02
tkamppetermlankhorst, emacs configure.ac, to allow inputproto 2.2.9912:02
tkamppetermlankhorst, cp -a ../../ ...  /debian . to get a debian/ directory12:03
tkamppetermlankhorst, emacs debian/control to allow inputproto 2.2.9912:03
tkamppetermlankhorst, emacs debian/patches/series to exclude the upstreamized patch12:03
tkamppetermlankhorst, debuild -b and it is building.12:04
tkamppetermlankhorst, compiles bug breaks after compiling as follows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598177/12:12
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mlankhorstoh right12:14
mlankhorstgit log > ChangeLog, done..12:14
mlankhorstor touch ChangeLog, it doesn't matter12:15
tkamppetermlankhorst, trying to build again ...12:21
tkamppetermlankhorst, where do I have to apply the patch http://people.canonical.com/~mlankhorst/xorg-server_1.14.1-0ubuntu0.2.diff.gz?12:22
tkamppetermlankhorst, in which directory/branch/repo do I have to be to run "git checkout ubuntu+1; git merge whot/touch-grab-race-condition-56578-v2; git checkout whot/touch-grab-race-condition-56578-v2 .; git checkout HEAD debian ChangeLog; git commit; dch 'yadda yadda'"12:22
mlankhorstrepost, but grab that, apply that to 1.14.1, fixup inputproto, done..12:24
mlankhorstit was the result of me doing pretty much that12:24
mvoseb128: sorry, meeting again, I look at why its untranslated12:31
seb128mvo, thansk12:31
mvoseb128: as for the history-its only kept for ~6 month iirc via logrotate :/12:31
mvoseb128: one more question, is it normal that I don't have virtual desktops anymore after the raring upgrade?12:32
seb128mvo, no12:32
mvoseb128: I "fixed" it via the unity tweak tool12:32
seb128mvo, it's normal for new installs, not upgrades12:32
mvoseb128: oh12:32
* ogra_ had the same 12:32
seb128mvo, oh, if you never changed your settings and were on the 2x2 default it might be normal12:32
seb128ogra_, ^12:32
ogra_i thought so12:33
seb128we don't overwrite user settings12:33
mvoseb128: yeah, never changed my setting12:33
ogra_well, you do ... for the ones i never changed :P12:33
seb128but if you didn't set a specific value and were using the default you get the new default12:33
mvoseb128: 2x2 is fine for me12:33
seb128mvo, you can enable them back from system settings, appearance12:33
mvoits ok, I don't mind (too) much, it was just unexpected, maybe worth noting in the upgrade notes or something12:33
ogra_i wonder if we can actually keep that habit in the converged world12:34
mvoseb128: aha, indeed, under "behavior", i overlooked this earlier12:34
ogra_might be that we need to start transitioning user settings on upgrades of phones12:34
ogra_(sounds like a good bar topic at the sprint :) )12:34
seb128ogra_, yeah, buy some drinks and we can discuss it ;-)12:35
ogra_will do12:35
seb128ogra_, as an user there are some settings I would not be happy to have to reconfigure after every upgrade12:35
seb128the number of workspaces being one :p12:35
seb128keybindings being another one12:35
ogra_well, but what if i was happy with the default and didnt change it12:35
ogra_it is confusing that it suddenly changes12:36
seb128our golden rule by then was to never mess with user settings :p12:36
pittiLaney: ah, thanks for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/suspend-hibernate-upower-logind12:38
pittiLaney: count me in with helping out, but I propose to stage this after the logind transition12:38
pitti(during which a good chunk of the upower rdeps will already be handled)12:38
seb128that might be another topic for next week12:39
ogra_did we plan to have another cobvergence power meeting too ?12:39
pittiI didn't hear about one12:39
ogra_seems related12:39
pittibut this was certainly discussed there, yes12:40
ogra_well, we probably should12:40
pittito reduce the number of plumbing daemons12:40
pstolowskimvo: ping12:51
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attenteSweetshark, comment #16 seems to say upgrading to gnome 3.8 fixes it13:11
Sweetsharkattente: whops, indeed. so the bug does not reproduce in quantal, but it does in plain raring, but is gone again with gnome 3.8?13:15
Sweetsharkattente: does that give you any clue?13:15
attenteSweetshark, not really, i'll purge the desktop ppa to see if that reproduces13:16
attenteok, i see it now13:21
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Laneypitti: yeah, they don't need to be entangled13:37
Laneydoesn't remove a daemon though, of course13:38
rickspencer3hey seb128, Laney what's the word on the street regarding the release tomorrow?13:40
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have built xserver 1.14 now, but it seems not to be compatible with lightdm, "sudo restart lightdm" says "lightdm start/running, process XXX" but the screen stays black.13:44
gemarickspencer3: it sounds to me like it's going well13:47
rickspencer3hi gema13:47
Laneyhey rickspencer3, I'm not too connected with the street myself but it should go down well13:47
Laneyhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds isn't too bad13:47
gemait's quite good13:47
mlankhorsttkamppeter: probably some abi incompatibility, just dig through your xorg log13:48
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have run "startx" on a console of the machine and there I get the error "(EE) module ABI major version (13) doesn't match the server's version (14)". Does this mean that the whole distro needs to be rebuilt for the new X ABI generation?13:48
Laneydidrocks is quite in touch with the french forum so he might know what those guys are thinking13:48
seb128rickspencer3, hey, release seems to be mostly fine/on track13:49
rickspencer3hi seb12813:49
rickspencer3good news13:49
rickspencer3seb128, I replaced 12.04 on my newer laptop yesterday13:50
rickspencer3I did a full reinstall13:50
rickspencer3I had been running 13.04 on my slow desktop and netbook13:50
rickspencer3on this computer, it flies13:50
rickspencer3it's fine on my slow 'puters, but on this one ... wow13:50
mlankhorsttkamppeter: are you using nvidia drivers?13:51
LaneyGetting an SSD was the best single upgrade I've ever done13:51
Trevinhorickspencer3: great to read!13:51
Laneyunity is zippy as anything on it13:51
Trevinhorickspencer3: about bug 108753413:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 1087534 in unity (Ubuntu Raring) "[regression] Corrupted blurred overlays" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108753413:51
Trevinhorickspencer3: could you take with you your affected notebook in Oakland?13:52
rickspencer3Trevinho, absolutely13:52
rickspencer3in fact, it will be my only 'puter :)13:52
rickspencer3I like to travel light13:52
rickspencer3keeps us honest13:52
Trevinhorickspencer3: oh... and we need to break it :D13:52
tkamppetermlankhorst, no, my system has an i7 with on-chip Intel GPU.13:52
rickspencer3Trevinho, well, maybe we can break it with a USB key13:53
rickspencer3(as in make a USB key to boot it for testing)13:53
seb128Trevinho, rickspencer3: I'm upgrading my 10v to raring, if that has the issue I will bring it as a test box13:53
Trevinhorickspencer3: yeah, what we need is to bisect nux to find at which revision this problem started...13:53
tjaaltontkamppeter: install drivers from ppa:canonical-x/x-staging13:53
tjaaltontkamppeter: and unity13:53
Trevinhorickspencer3: and afaik that's the only netbook affected in the team13:54
rickspencer3Trevinho, ack13:54
tkamppetertjaalton, mlankhorst, which drivers do I need? I have loaded now intel for the GPU, kbd for the keyboard, mouse for the external mouse and synaptics for the laptop touchpad. Which one do I need for the multitouch screen and which additional ones do I need?14:02
mlankhorstyou just evdev, synaptics, and intel14:02
mlankhorstmouse and kbd are unneeded14:04
tjaaltonunused even14:05
tkamppetermlankhorst, yes, these three drivers make the UI of lightdm working again.14:05
tjaaltonyou also need unity from the ppa, or it won't load14:05
tkamppetermlankhorst, lightdm UI, internal mouse, external mouse, real keyboard, onboard, and touch work.14:06
tkamppetermlankhorst, tjaalton, now I will install unity and afterwards I will log in.14:07
tkamppetermlankhorst, tjaalton, I have installed unity, libunity-core-6.0-5, unity-common, and unity-services from the PPA, restarted lightdm again, and logged in, now I get only the background image, no launcher and no top bar. After a minute or so I got a crash report from compiz. Clicking OK on it lets the crash report (without decorations) disappear and nothing happens.14:19
mlankhorst.. how much do you have installed with --force all?14:19
tkamppetermlankhorst, tjaalton, also no right-button menu when clicking the right button of the internal or external mouse. Mouse pointer is there and can be moved by internal and external mouse and by touch.14:20
tkamppetermlankhorst, no --force used at all. All PPA packages and all X packages built by me installed seamlessly.14:21
mlankhorstwell just updating to the ppa should just work14:23
mlankhorstapart from the xserver which would require a manual rebuild, but that's about14:23
tkamppetermlankhorst, tjaalton, I did not install any Unity packages with 2d in their names and I did not install unity-autopilot, as I did not have installed tyhese packages before, nor I installed any -dev or -dbg packages.14:24
mlankhorsttkamppeter: I mean why wouldn't just enabling that ppa work?14:25
mlankhorsttry it, then dist-upgrade14:25
mlankhorstwhen we say enable that ppa it's because at least of 3 of the problems you've hit until now would have not happened had you simply installed that ppa before trying to build first (inputproto fix, libs required for unity, manual unity installation, abi versions of drivers)14:31
tkamppetermlankhorst, I tried the minimum-invasive approach, by installing a number of packages as small as possible.14:38
ChrisTownsendmterry: Hi14:39
tkamppetermlankhorst, so I upgrade to the PPA now, check whether trhe system works with it and then I uupdate the xserver package to the GIT branch.14:39
mlankhorsttkamppeter: well in this case it was better to just install the ppa, fwiw you were lakcing libxi/libxfixes from there14:41
tkamppetermlankhorst, a simply update to the PPA makes X and Unity working again, now all based on 1.14.14:47
mlankhorstyeah, the xserver debs you created should still work though14:48
mlankhorstinput/video abi wasn't bumped for that git tree14:48
mlankhorstinstall xserver-common, xserver-xorg-core core-dbg and -dev14:49
balloonsmhall119, there's a terminal app now for ubuntu touch?!14:52
balloonsI'm sold.. pls I wantz now14:52
mhall119balloons: yeah, should be in the PPA soon14:53
mhall119it's rough, but still so nice to have14:54
mterryChrisTownsend, hello14:54
ChrisTownsendmterry: Hey!  Who is responsible for merging https://code.launchpad.net/~townsend/duplicity/fix-1161599/+merge/159849 ?  I think this would quite a few users who back up to U1 and would be a great SRU candidate.14:55
mterryChrisTownsend, one of the duplicity developers, including the guy who approved you.  He must have just forgot14:57
mterryChrisTownsend, but I can merge it for you14:57
ChrisTownsendmterry: Ah, ok.  Thanks!14:57
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have now installed xserver-common and xserver-xorg-core of my build before updating to the PPA but not the -dev and -dbg as I did not have installed this before.14:59
mlankhorstok that should be good enough then14:59
tkamppetermlankhorst, After that I have restarted lightdm and logged in. I can navigate by touch without problem after many (~20) left clicks no stuck button.15:00
tkamppetermlankhorst, I tried also the onboard-based right click which leads to immediately getting stuck, It still does not work, but at least I do not get a stuck left button.15:01
tkamppetermlankhorst, I start onboard, then Firefox, in Firefox I visit an arbitrary site and click the URL bar to pop up onboard.15:02
mlankhorsttkamppeter: touch screen right?15:02
tkamppetermlankhorst, all touch, "click" is tapping with the finger onto the screen.15:02
mlankhorstsounds about right15:03
tkamppeterIn onboard I click the button with the mouse pointer pointing to the upper right so that this button gets light grey.15:03
tkamppetermlankhorst, then I click somewhere onto the web page, where there is no link.15:03
tkamppetermlankhorst, I expect a menu popping up, what I get is no reaction, but at least I do not get a stuck left button.15:04
mlankhorston my nexus 7 i managed to get it stuck in a single click :p15:05
tkamppetermlankhorst, if I do the onboard-based right click on a link, the link gets followed instead of a menu popping up, meaning that the right-click facility is ignored and the tap is interpreted as left click.15:05
mlankhorstis that new?15:06
tkamppetermlankhorst, this is the first time trying 1.14 for me. Before I had used 1.13 of Raring with the patches which I mentioned in the bug report. That made the left click reliable and the right click made the butoon getting stuck immediately.15:08
tkamppetermlankhorst, right click with the internal or external mouse works.15:09
tkamppetermlankhorst, State of the art of 1.14, touch-grab-race-condition-56578-v2 branch from GIT, is that tapping the touch screen does not lead to a stuck button any more, left click is absolutely reliable and right click via onboard does not work.15:11
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tkamppetermlankhorst, you mean that on your N7 you get the GIT branch, which says it has the stuck button fixed, stuck with the first click?15:22
mlankhorsttkamppeter: I'm just more skilled at locking things up ;P15:25
mlankhorsttry hitting the dash icon, then release finger just a little and hit it again15:25
tkamppetermlankhorst, I do not get it stuck even quickly rapid-firing on the dash icon.15:30
mlankhorstmm I didn't really rapid fire, I did have valgrind though :P15:30
tkamppetermlankhorst, probably I do not get into that timing issue as I am in "real-live" mode, running the stuff without valgrind.15:35
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have downloaded the source package for xorg-server_1.14.1-0ubuntu0.1 from the PPA now and applied your patch xorg-server_1.14.1-0ubuntu0.1, downloaded a few minutes ago. It does not build on my PPAed system, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598641/.15:37
mlankhorsttkamppeter: ignore, that was my own attempt15:38
mlankhorstit's identical mostly15:38
tkamppetermlankhorst, but how can I deactivate the check then so that it simply builds?15:38
mlankhorstit's not any different from what you just build yourself15:39
mlankhorstso please dont15:40
tkamppetermlankhorst, OK.15:43
tkamppetermlankhorst, so I simply leave it as it is now and update if there are updates on the bug report or on the PPA.15:44
mlankhorstyou can leave a message on the fd.org bug if you want15:44
tkamppetermlankhorst, this is whjat I did now, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5657815:48
ubot2Freedesktop bug 56578 in Server/Input/Core "race condition with active/passive grabs when opening menus with touch" [Normal,Assigned]15:48
tkamppetermlankhorst, thank you very much for the help on upgrading to 1.14. This way I can follow the development now.15:49
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* didrocks waves good evening17:04
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seb128attente, hey, did you get anywhere with that libreoffice/appmenu issue?17:49
attenteseb128, still looking into it17:53
seb128attente, it's larsu's fault17:54
seb128attente, it's due to https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity/panel-service-menu-style-fix-again/+merge/15132917:54
seb128attente, at least I think (just tried with the binary from before that commit was merged, and it doesn't have the bug)17:55
seb128attente, I hope that helps you as a pointer ;-)17:55
attenteseb128, that looks very helpful, thanks!17:56
seb128attente, yw17:56
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larsuseb128: the code I removed there was a workaround anyway... what's the bug attente is trying to fix?18:24
attentelarsu, it's to do with the highlighting of the menu items in libreoffice18:34
larsuattente: interesting. My patch fixed exactly that problem for the indicators...18:35
larsuattente: so if you find a solution, please test whether it doesn18:35
larsu... doesn't break indicators18:35
seb128larsu, hey18:50
seb128larsu, your patch broke gtk 3.6/libreoffice to fix gtk 318:51
seb128larsu, since we didn't land the new gtk in raring we have broken menus for libreoffice18:51
larsuseb128: ugh :-(18:52
seb128larsu, I'm suggesting we revert in the raring unity branch and keep it in trunk18:53
larsuseb128: sounds good to me18:53
seb128we will land gtk 3.8 next cycle for pretty sure (the only blocker I know about is overlay scrollbars working only once)18:53
GunnarHjWill next release be 13.10? I have never seen any conclusion from the discussions on rolling releases etc.19:02
GunnarHjseb128: ^19:04
seb128GunnarHj, yes19:07
seb128GunnarHj, conclusions are on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-March/001566.html19:07
GunnarHjseb128: Thanks, Seb. Guess that should be annonced somewhere, or...?19:08
seb128GunnarHj, that's a good point19:11
seb128stgraber, ^19:11
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stgraberseb128: that e-mail was sent at the request of the news team, so I'm pretty sure the announce was forwarded to the fridge, weekly news, ... the usual places. The minutes of the TB meeting were sent to ubuntu-devel-announce and we made the needed changes on the wiki (support duration) and I believe the 13.04 announcement will clearly say it's supported only for 9 months.19:13
seb128GunnarHj, ^19:14
seb128stgraber, sorry, I read the infos a few times on a few places but didn't pay attention of what the places were19:14
seb128stgraber, but it seems it was properly communicated19:14
seb128stgraber, so, unping19:14
stgraberseb128: well, the problem is that various websites picked up the discussion on ubuntu-devel as being an announcement which it clearly wasn't. From the TB perspective it feels a bit weird making a lot of noise saying "we changed nothing" :)19:15
GunnarHjstgraber: Thanks for calling my attention to the fridge. ;-)19:15
sarnold(though you did change something, the support lifetime, from 18 to 9 months..)19:17
seb128seems like the security team care somewhat...19:18
stgrabersarnold: true and I fully expect that change to be made pretty clear in the announcement19:18
sarnoldseb128: i'll be happier to retire hardy .. :)19:18
stgraber*release announcement19:18
seb128waouh, hardy, brings back memory19:18
sarnoldYes. :) It was good for its time, but a lot of the packaging feels .. like there are special cases for no particularly good reason. Things have improved quite a lot in newer releases. :)19:19
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AndChat690900Ma oe :)23:49

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