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| Guest57842 | so how does evryone like the RC | 03:19 |
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| Guest57842 | anyone know when the Ubuntu gnome logo will be picked ? | 03:20 |
| Guest57842 | wow its dead here lol | 03:21 |
| asdf__ | I downloaded the RC release, bootet and can't find gnome 3.8 classic mode. Is it because ubuntu gnome uses gnome 3.6? | 05:44 |
| gob | hi all | 05:52 |
| gob | you'r look me& | 05:52 |
| gob | ? | 05:53 |
| asdf__ | I reasked it here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-April/000218.html | 05:57 |
| hadim_ | hi | 09:22 |
| hadim_ | got a bug with ubuntu gnome (staging ppa) | 09:22 |
| hadim_ | can you confirm that gnome terminal settings are not applied | 09:22 |
| hadim_ | ? | 09:22 |
| hadim_ | for example when i set terminal colors, it doesnt do anything and use default black on with colors settings | 09:23 |
| darkxst | hadim_, file a bug | 09:29 |
| hadim_ | yep | 09:30 |
| hadim_ | but where since i use staging ppa ? | 09:30 |
| darkxst | ubuntu-bug still works! | 09:30 |
| hadim_ | oh ok | 09:30 |
| hadim_ | did you notice this bug ? | 09:31 |
| darkxst | no, I just use the standard white on black | 09:34 |
| hadim_ | ok | 09:35 |
| hadim_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1172209 | 09:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1172209 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome terminal settings not applied" [Undecided,New] | 09:35 |
| hadim_ | wow | 09:35 |
| hadim_ | fun robots :-D | 09:36 |
| LoverBuntu | hi folks | 10:04 |
| LoverBuntu | can anyone tell me what's the main advantages of using ubuntu gnome 13.04 over Ubuntu 13.04 ? | 10:05 |
| LoverBuntu | no idea? | 10:07 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hi ;) | 10:33 |
| darkxst | hi | 10:33 |
| ricotz | don't you build the packages locally? | 10:33 |
| darkxst | ricotz, yes I do, systemd had been a nightmare though ;( | 10:34 |
| ricotz | just saying, might be better to built them in another ppa intead of pushing that much uploads ;) | 10:34 |
| darkxst | well if I had known, I would have! | 10:35 |
| ricotz | (and testing it from there then) | 10:35 |
| ricotz | darkxst, alright | 10:35 |
| darkxst | but really wierd issues like Soyuz falling over because there is a ddeb with no corresponding deb | 10:36 |
| darkxst | and tests that apparently fail in kvm, but not the archive builds | 10:36 |
| ricotz | darkxst, yeah, the builders are sometime weird | 10:37 |
| darkxst | indeed | 10:37 |
| ricotz | darkxst, mostly just retrying the builds works since it will probably use another builder | 10:37 |
| darkxst | hmm right | 10:38 |
| darkxst | anyway made a few hacks to packaging as suggested by pitti, so hopefully will work now | 10:38 |
| ricotz | darkxst, if that one fails too, built in another ppa first ;) | 10:39 |
| darkxst | ricotz, sure | 10:39 |
| ricotz | yeah i noticed | 10:39 |
| ricotz | uploading systemd made be curious "why" | 10:39 |
| darkxst | lol, poweroff fix probably wont make raring | 10:40 |
| ricotz | hmm, i see | 10:41 |
| ricotz | looks like you got lucky | 10:43 |
| darkxst | anyway think I cleaned up most of the logind fallout now | 10:45 |
| darkxst | although suspend on lid close, might be a bit flaky until we up gsd to 3.8.1 | 10:47 |
| ricotz | darkxst, yeah, the lid-close suspend is what i want back :) | 10:48 |
| darkxst | ricotz, I pushed a patch, but while I was debugging, sometime suspend was inhibited for no apparent reason | 10:48 |
| darkxst | it works perfectly on 3.8.1, but I not entirely sure what needs to be fixed before we can upload that | 10:49 |
| ricotz | darkxst, i am still running the older systemd/gsd so i guess i will notice it soon | 10:49 |
| darkxst | I guess the OSD's are one issue, if fallback actually still works (can't say I have tested that) | 10:51 |
| thepreacher | In quite a few applications eg disks, the system is still referred to as Ubuntu 13.04, I'm just curious, will these be eventually changed to Ubuntu Gnome or not? | 12:24 |
| camelinahat | thepreacher, what area of disks? I'm suspecting however it probably has to do with bug 1171867 | 12:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1171867 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation type Shows Ubuntu instead of UbuntuGNOME" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171867 | 12:33 |
| thepreacher | camelinahat: sorry my bad, its actually the details application. The overview shows the system as Ubuntu 13.04. I was expecting it to be Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 | 12:35 |
| thepreacher | And it show the original Ubuntu logo as well. I suspect there's too much to do at the moment for devs to bother with something like that, besides its only cosmetic. | 12:37 |
| camelinahat | Hmm I believe it's the same reason: "All ubuntu-flavours install as "ubuntu", there is no way to detect if unity,gnome-shell,kde are installed uniquiely or if multiple sessions are available. Thus all official flavours, once installed report that they are "Ubuntu"." | 12:38 |
| camelinahat | (from that bug) | 12:38 |
| thepreacher | Well I can happily live with that :) | 12:38 |
| tyrog | Hi. Why does the Gnome Staging ppa have systemd ? | 14:55 |
| slinnky | BOOOOOOOOO YEAH | 15:07 |
| jbicha | tyrog: it's just logind; other pieces of systemd (hostnamed, localed, & timedated) are already running by default in 13.04 | 15:12 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu still uses upstart underneath so this is a bit of a hybrid | 15:12 |
| tyrog | jbicha: So no problem regarding compatibility with the ubuntu toolchain? | 15:13 |
| jbicha | logind is a 13.10 feature so it's not been fully tested on Ubuntu yet but the gnome3 staging ppa in general includes experimental stuff | 15:15 |
| tyrog | jbicha: but it is the only one with some components of gnome 3.8 like control center and evolution | 15:20 |
| jbicha | yes but there's no promises that gnome-control-center 3.8 works well on Ubuntu yet | 15:23 |
| bersace_nss | last update gave wifi back (no more dbus error) | 15:24 |
| bersace_nss | thanks ! | 15:24 |
| bersace_nss | does anyone get nm bridging working ? | 15:24 |
| bersace_nss | once i configured a bridge in nm, it fails to activate it with "Device not managed by NetworkManager or unavailable" | 15:24 |
| bersace_nss | any clue ? | 15:25 |
| bersace_nss | the bridge iface is actually created, but no slave in it | 15:26 |
| jbicha | new images were just posted | 17:49 |
| user5123546 | Hi. I may not be on the right channel, but does anyone know of a way I could easily set the middle mouse button to initiate the activities overview? | 17:54 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, Yeah I just noticed that myself. | 17:56 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, Looks like install alongside is still broken :( | 18:38 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: I wonder if that affects other flavors too? | 18:56 |
| camelinahat | I have a kubuntu download here I'll give a try in a little bit. Unfortunately I'm almost done with an LVM/Encytped test so I'll need to re-install the base before I can test kubuntu's resize | 19:01 |
| jbicha | kubuntu's ubiquity is a bit different; I'm more curious about whether the bug affects the Ubuntu image | 19:04 |
| camelinahat | Yeah I can try that one instead, won't take me a minute to pull down that image anyways. | 19:05 |
| jbicha | ok, it sounds like balloons is also checking... I asked around in #ubuntu-quality | 19:06 |
| darkxst | jbicha, what needed fixing in g-s-d again? | 20:29 |
| jbicha | everything ;) | 20:30 |
| jbicha | I think we need to take a closer look at the media-keys changes, possibly reverting them | 20:31 |
| jbicha | it's multiple commits so it might be easier to diff the directory with an older version | 20:32 |
| Toasty27 | Is there any major difference between installing UbuntuGnome and installing Gnome 3 on the standard version of Ubuntu 13.04? | 20:36 |
| darkxst | jbicha, you mean the removal of the OSD stuff? | 20:36 |
| jbicha | yeah we have to watch out for regressing Unity so we should test whether the volume/brightness/etc. keys still work | 20:38 |
| darkxst | unity doesnt use the OSD's, but I suppose fallback would (if that is still working?) | 20:39 |
| jbicha | I thought it was more than just OSD but as long as Unity still works, go ahead and upload | 20:40 |
| jbicha | I think Fallback should be using notify-osd too but it might be missing the Recommends for it | 20:41 |
| darkxst | jbicha, I do not even have a fallback session in my test VM | 20:46 |
| jbicha | don't worry about fallback for now | 20:48 |
| darkxst | ok | 20:54 |
| darkxst | jbicha, oh, I am getting black text on black background in gnome-terminal under unity when 'use system colors' | 21:48 |
| jbicha | something in our g-s-d 3.8 breaks theming pretty bad in Unity, it doesn't affect Fallback though... | 21:51 |
| darkxst | hmm seems mostly ok when switching to ambiance however | 21:52 |
| darkxst | jbicha, did media keys actually work in 3.7.91? | 22:28 |
| darkxst | I am guess not? | 22:30 |
| jbicha | I don't know, maybe we need to revert that directory to the 3.6 version? | 22:33 |
| darkxst | I will try and revert the keygrabber stuff, for unity only | 22:42 |
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