=== mike is now known as Guest57842
[03:19] <Guest57842> so how does evryone like the RC
[03:20] <Guest57842> anyone know when the Ubuntu gnome logo will be picked ?
[03:21] <Guest57842> wow its dead here lol
[05:44] <asdf__> I downloaded the RC release, bootet and can't find gnome 3.8 classic mode. Is it because ubuntu gnome uses gnome 3.6?
[05:52] <gob> hi all
[05:52] <gob> you'r look me&
[05:53] <gob> ?
[05:57] <asdf__> I reasked it here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-April/000218.html
[09:22] <hadim_> hi
[09:22] <hadim_> got a bug with ubuntu gnome (staging ppa)
[09:22] <hadim_> can you confirm that gnome terminal settings are not applied
[09:22] <hadim_> ?
[09:23] <hadim_> for example when i set terminal colors, it doesnt do anything and use default black on with colors settings
[09:29] <darkxst> hadim_, file a bug
[09:30] <hadim_> yep
[09:30] <hadim_> but where since i use staging ppa ?
[09:30] <darkxst> ubuntu-bug still works!
[09:30] <hadim_> oh ok
[09:31] <hadim_> did you notice this bug ?
[09:34] <darkxst> no, I just use the standard white on black
[09:35] <hadim_> ok
[09:35] <hadim_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1172209
[09:35] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1172209 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome terminal settings not applied" [Undecided,New]
[09:35] <hadim_> wow
[09:36] <hadim_> fun robots :-D
[10:04] <LoverBuntu> hi folks
[10:05] <LoverBuntu> can anyone tell me what's the main advantages of using ubuntu gnome 13.04 over Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[10:07] <LoverBuntu> no idea?
[10:33] <ricotz> darkxst, hi ;)
[10:33] <darkxst> hi
[10:33] <ricotz> don't you build the packages locally?
[10:34] <darkxst> ricotz, yes I do, systemd had been a nightmare though ;(
[10:34] <ricotz> just saying, might be better to built them in another ppa intead of pushing that much uploads ;)
[10:35] <darkxst> well if I had known, I would have!
[10:35] <ricotz> (and testing it from there then)
[10:35] <ricotz> darkxst, alright
[10:36] <darkxst> but really wierd issues like Soyuz falling over because there is a ddeb with no corresponding deb
[10:36] <darkxst> and tests that apparently fail in kvm, but not the archive builds
[10:37] <ricotz> darkxst, yeah, the builders are sometime weird
[10:37] <darkxst> indeed
[10:37] <ricotz> darkxst, mostly just retrying the builds works since it will probably use another builder
[10:38] <darkxst> hmm right
[10:38] <darkxst> anyway made a few hacks to packaging as suggested by pitti, so hopefully will work now
[10:39] <ricotz> darkxst, if that one fails too, built in another ppa first ;)
[10:39] <darkxst> ricotz, sure
[10:39] <ricotz> yeah i noticed
[10:39] <ricotz> uploading systemd made be curious "why"
[10:40] <darkxst> lol, poweroff fix probably wont make raring
[10:41] <ricotz> hmm, i see
[10:43] <ricotz> looks like you got lucky
[10:45] <darkxst> anyway think I cleaned up most of the logind fallout now
[10:47] <darkxst> although suspend on lid close, might be a bit flaky until we up gsd to 3.8.1
[10:48] <ricotz> darkxst, yeah, the lid-close suspend is what i want back :)
[10:48] <darkxst> ricotz, I pushed a patch, but while I was debugging, sometime suspend was inhibited for no apparent reason
[10:49] <darkxst> it works perfectly on 3.8.1, but I not entirely sure what needs to be fixed before we can upload that
[10:49] <ricotz> darkxst, i am still running the older systemd/gsd so i guess i will notice it soon
[10:51] <darkxst> I guess the OSD's are one issue, if fallback actually still works (can't say I have tested that)
[12:24] <thepreacher> In quite a few applications eg disks, the system is still referred to as Ubuntu 13.04, I'm just curious, will these be eventually changed to Ubuntu Gnome or not?
[12:33] <camelinahat> thepreacher, what area of disks? I'm suspecting however it probably has to do with bug 1171867
[12:33] <ubot5> bug 1171867 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation type Shows Ubuntu instead of UbuntuGNOME" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171867
[12:35] <thepreacher> camelinahat: sorry my bad, its actually the details application. The overview shows the system as Ubuntu 13.04. I was expecting it to be Ubuntu Gnome 13.04
[12:37] <thepreacher> And it show the original Ubuntu logo as well. I suspect there's too much to do at the moment for devs to bother with something like that, besides its only cosmetic.
[12:38] <camelinahat> Hmm I believe it's the same reason: "All ubuntu-flavours install as "ubuntu", there is no way to detect if unity,gnome-shell,kde are installed uniquiely or if multiple sessions are available. Thus all official flavours, once installed report that they are "Ubuntu"."
[12:38] <camelinahat> (from that bug)
[12:38] <thepreacher> Well I can happily live with that :)
[14:55] <tyrog> Hi. Why does the Gnome Staging ppa have systemd ?
[15:07] <slinnky> BOOOOOOOOO YEAH
[15:12] <jbicha> tyrog: it's just logind; other pieces of systemd (hostnamed, localed, & timedated) are already running by default in 13.04
[15:12] <jbicha> Ubuntu still uses upstart underneath so this is a bit of a hybrid
[15:13] <tyrog> jbicha: So no problem regarding compatibility with the ubuntu toolchain?
[15:15] <jbicha> logind is a 13.10 feature so it's not been fully tested on Ubuntu yet but the gnome3 staging ppa in general includes experimental stuff
[15:20] <tyrog> jbicha: but it is the only one with some components of gnome 3.8 like control center and evolution
[15:23] <jbicha> yes but there's no promises that gnome-control-center 3.8 works well on Ubuntu yet
[15:24] <bersace_nss> last update gave wifi back (no more dbus error)
[15:24] <bersace_nss> thanks !
[15:24] <bersace_nss> does anyone get nm bridging working ?
[15:24] <bersace_nss> once i configured a bridge in nm, it fails to activate it with "Device not managed by NetworkManager or unavailable"
[15:25] <bersace_nss> any clue ?
[15:26] <bersace_nss> the bridge iface is actually created, but no slave in it
[17:49] <jbicha> new images were just posted
[17:54] <user5123546> Hi. I may not be on the right channel, but does anyone know of a way I could easily set the middle mouse button to initiate the activities overview?
[17:56] <camelinahat> jbicha, Yeah I just noticed that myself.
[18:38] <camelinahat> jbicha, Looks like install alongside is still broken :(
[18:56] <jbicha> camelinahat: I wonder if that affects other flavors too?
[19:01] <camelinahat> I have a kubuntu download here I'll give a try in a little bit. Unfortunately I'm almost done with an LVM/Encytped test so I'll need to re-install the base before I can test kubuntu's resize
[19:04] <jbicha> kubuntu's ubiquity is a bit different; I'm more curious about whether the bug affects the Ubuntu image
[19:05] <camelinahat> Yeah I can try that one instead, won't take me a minute to pull down that image anyways.
[19:06] <jbicha> ok, it sounds like balloons is also checking... I asked around in #ubuntu-quality
[20:29] <darkxst> jbicha, what needed fixing in g-s-d again?
[20:30] <jbicha> everything ;)
[20:31] <jbicha> I think we need to take a closer look at the media-keys changes, possibly reverting them
[20:32] <jbicha> it's multiple commits so it might be easier to diff the directory with an older version
[20:36] <Toasty27> Is there any major difference between installing UbuntuGnome and installing Gnome 3 on the standard version of Ubuntu 13.04?
[20:36] <darkxst> jbicha, you mean the removal of the OSD stuff?
[20:38] <jbicha> yeah we have to watch out for regressing Unity so we should test whether the volume/brightness/etc. keys still work
[20:39] <darkxst> unity doesnt use the OSD's, but I suppose fallback would (if that is still working?)
[20:40] <jbicha> I thought it was more than just OSD but as long as Unity still works, go ahead and upload
[20:41] <jbicha> I think Fallback should be using notify-osd too but it might be missing the Recommends for it
[20:46] <darkxst> jbicha, I do not even have a fallback session in my test VM
[20:48] <jbicha> don't worry about fallback for now
[20:54] <darkxst> ok
[21:48] <darkxst> jbicha, oh, I am getting black text on black background in gnome-terminal under unity when 'use system colors'
[21:51] <jbicha> something in our g-s-d 3.8 breaks theming pretty bad in Unity, it doesn't affect Fallback though...
[21:52] <darkxst> hmm seems mostly ok when switching to ambiance however
[22:28] <darkxst> jbicha, did media keys actually work in 3.7.91?
[22:30] <darkxst> I am guess not?
[22:33] <jbicha> I don't know, maybe we need to revert that directory to the 3.6 version?
[22:42] <darkxst> I will try and revert the keygrabber stuff, for unity only