balloonsplars, on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1445/info that was one that we were supposed to get clarified I think01:05
balloonsapparently it never happened01:05
plarsballoons: maybe it should just come out?01:08
balloonsplars, yea, let me kill it01:32
balloonsplars, should be gone now :-)01:33
plarsballoons: thanks01:34
balloonsif there's any more that are really marginal on server, I'm ok with gutting them01:34
balloonsespecially "run-once"01:34
phillwballoons: and there was me thinking out setting up an iSCSI instance on my server :(01:34
phillw:D :D :D01:35
balloonsyou can.. help us get a proper testcase :-)01:36
phillwI'll look into what needs doing for it. i only learned how to connect to an iSCSI system, not create one :D01:38
phillwballoons: but, lubuntu looks good to go, ppc testing is needed on the new 'CD' sized images and for the ac100 (arm) device. I'll be able to dive in and help out on any teams who need testing done once I crawl out of my crypt :)01:39
phillwballoons: by the way, with unetbootin and startup disk creator both having problems, have you any ideas other then using dd to use a usb device?01:42
balloonsphillw, yes01:42
phillwplease do share, as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/915626 is a show stopper to include in our notes.01:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 915626 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Quantal) "usb-creator-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in _dbus_watch_invalidate" [High,Triaged]01:43
NoskcajKylin needs some testing, is it releasing for 13.04?01:43
phillwNoskcaj: I cannot read chinese!01:43
Noskcajphillw, true. i was saying that more generally01:44
Noskcajedubuntu and kubuntu seem to be where testing is needed.01:44
phillwNoskcaj: the guys from kylin are pretty dedicated.01:44
Noskcajeverything else just needs bugfixes01:44
phillwit has been a pleasure to get to know them, as it has for the ubuntu-gnome team01:45
phillwNoskcaj: well, as I sign off, go do some kubuntu and edubuntu testing :D01:46
Noskcajgood night01:47
balloonsphillw, sorry phone call interruption :-)01:51
balloonsphillw, there are other tools01:51
balloonsi'm a little hazy atm.. really tired01:51
balloonshowever, https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/01:56
balloonsyou can run on ubuntu as well..01:57
balloonsdo you need a howto?01:57
balloonsbasically download and run01:59
balloonswget https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liveusb-creator/liveusb-creator-3.11.7.tar.bz201:59
balloonssudo apt-get install python-parted isomd5sum python-pyisomd5sum python-urlgrabber extlinux python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus tar01:59
balloonsextract tarball and run01:59
balloonsphillw, ^^02:01
balloonsin addition there is http://sourceforge.net/projects/multibootusb/ and https://launchpad.net/live-usb-install (both of which I've never used)02:06
pittiGood morning05:35
dholbachgood morning07:24
Noskcajdholbach, morning. all that still needs doing for raring is testing and bug 117205907:28
ubot5bug 1172059 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "kubuntu ubiquity encryption doesn't check password" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117205907:28
dholbachI'm not sure I can help with that07:29
smartboyhwNoskcaj: ping.07:58
Noskcajsmartboyhw, pong07:59
smartboyhwNoskcaj: I saw some logs of yesterday's #xubuntu-devel07:59
smartboyhwNoskcaj: Don't be said of you not appointed as release manager.08:00
smartboyhws/said/ sad08:00
Noskcajit was more something that phill said i should ask for.08:01
smartboyhwNoskcaj: The problem is that he told you to "ask"08:01
smartboyhwWhich is sort of impolite:P08:02
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balloonsnoskcaj, thanks for getting that bug reported12:47
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smartboyhwHey balloons:)13:11
smartboyhwRespin again testers, there is a fix of ubiquity (Kubuntu one) that needs to respin the world.14:09
xnoxsmartboyhw: no.14:09
xnoxsmartboyhw: don't spread miss information.14:09
smartboyhwxnox: Tell me one sec earlier:P14:10
smartboyhwSorry folks14:10
xnoxsmartboyhw: please read scrollbacks. there are no respins until packages are accepted & published. Which has not happened with ubiquity yet.14:10
smartboyhwxnox: Sorru14:10
xnoxsmartboyhw: thus even kubuntu respin is _likely_ but not confirmed.14:10
smartboyhwballoons: how are ya?14:11
balloonsxnox, thanks for fixing btw :-)14:11
balloonssmartboyhw, just fine, yourself?14:11
smartboyhwballoons: We are soon going to have Open Week again.14:11
smartboyhwGet a person to do a session! (you maybe)14:11
balloonsxnox, so you think ubiquity should be able to read encrypted partitions (swap or otherwise) during an install?14:12
xnoxballoons: huh. =) that's not the bugs fixed for kubuntu-ubiquity respin.14:12
balloonslol, no it's not.. It's this one plars and I discussed yesterday: http://launchpad.net/bugs/117200214:13
xnoxballoons: there are more details, I've explained it twice already =) once in #-installer and once in #-release.14:13
ubot5Launchpad bug 1172002 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install doesn't mount encrypted swap for reinstall" [High,Confirmed]14:13
balloonsk, I'll read there14:13
xnoxballoons: bug 1172002 relates to a higher priority bug 1066480 which depends on bug 29149414:14
ubot5bug 1066480 in ubiquity (Ubuntu S-series) "Installer doesn't show encrypted partitions" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106648014:14
ubot5bug 291494 in partman-crypto (Ubuntu) "Partitions selected for encryption cannot be erased anymore" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29149414:14
xnoxthus all should be implement for it to be useful.14:14
xnoxthere is no harm apart from not having any swap......14:14
balloonsI just wanted to confirm that it is possible.. I assumed it was not.. because at the moment ubiquity just lists the partitions as unknown and moves on14:15
balloonsso for instance, I can't upgrade from ubiquity if I use an encrypted partition14:16
balloonsI didn't think it was a bug :-)14:16
xnoxballoons: it should allow you to upgrade, there will be extra popup "no swap" which one will have to dismiss.14:17
xnoxugly but not critical, as in it should succeed and not loose data.14:18
balloonsxnox, this bug describes what happens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066480. If simply says, you have no OS, what do you want to do.. Yes, if you just use ecryptfs for an encrypted home it works as Paul described.. You get everything as normal, it just doesn't see or use the swap partition14:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1066480 in ubiquity (Ubuntu S-series) "Installer doesn't show encrypted partitions" [Critical,Triaged]14:19
balloonsanyways, thanks.. I didn't think it was a "bug"14:20
smartboyhwballoons: Open Week?14:20
balloonssmartboyhw, open week eh.. you want to present?14:20
xnoxballoons: yes, I know. there are tree bugs =) plar's new but has ugly workarounds. the 1066480 was release noted and can be worked around via live system login and mount. Fixing them properly requires fixing 291494 (note how small the number is)14:21
smartboyhwballoons: I would love to but no it's too close to exams14:21
xnoxin general, I was not going to support any resize/reuse/replace/dual-boot setups with LVM&CRYPT in ubiquity. My concept was to only support fresh new wipe-all install with those.14:21
balloonsyes.. I assumed mounting them via the live session then invoking the installer will always work :-)14:22
smartboyhwballoons: I suggest you do it yourself this time.14:28
balloonsI don't remember if we had an open week session last time or not14:29
smartboyhwphillw might be busy with Lubuntu. Noskcaj nay represent14:29
smartboyhwballoons: Last time it was me:P14:29
smartboyhwYou are on leave I think that time14:29
smartboyhwballoons: You + SergioMeneses will be a good pair. Or adding Letozaf14:31
balloonsall good options14:31
smartboyhwballoons: Try finding them and see what they wanna do.14:35
smartboyhwThis year the schedule was much packed with only two days.14:36
smartboyhwJoseeAntonioR: ^ what's the reason?14:36
JoseeAntonioRsmartboyhw: beacause I won't be able to host the third day on-air14:37
JoseeAntonioRif we have enough instructors I can make it 3-day, but until now it's set at 2 days14:37
smartboyhwJoseeAntonioR: OK.14:37
smartboyhwballoons: And I forgotten chilicuil for the list:P14:42
smartboyhwHey SergioMeneses, care to do an Open Week QA session with balloons?14:59
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, when is the openweek?15:00
SergioMenesesbtw, hi everybody15:00
smartboyhwSergioMeneses: 22-23 May I think15:01
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SergioMenesessmartboyhw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek15:03
SergioMenesesballoons, what time do you have proposed?15:04
balloonsSergioMeneses, this is all smartboyhw :-) I don't even know the dates15:04
smartboyhwSergioMeneses: Yep.15:05
balloonsI take things one day at a time during release wekk15:05
SergioMenesesballoons, jajaja15:05
SergioMenesesI dont know what I'm going to talk about but count with me15:06
plarsballoons: are we sure that http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1498/info is valid for server?15:46
balloonsplars, ahh the ubiquity upgrade15:47
balloonsfor server hmm.. I can't say I've ever tried to upgrade server that way ;-) It's a desktop install disc!15:47
balloonsit's certainly not intended15:48
JoseeAntonioRhey guys, do any of you would like to do an ubuntu quality team session for openweek? :)15:49
JoseeAntonioRmaybe balloons?15:50
balloonsJoseeAntonioR, lol.. smartboyhw has been going on about it15:50
plarsballoons: ok, just confirmed on u-installer, that test should not be there15:50
balloonsI have no comment till raring is out ;-) That's my official statement15:50
balloonsplars, is it in server somewhere?15:50
plarsballoons: yes, server upgrade test (image) for i386 and amd6415:51
balloonsgotcha, yea, no no15:51
* balloons was confused why you asked abou tit15:51
balloonsLOL -- i looked at the linked testsuites for ubuntu server upgrade15:52
balloons"Desktop Upgrade" testsuite15:52
* balloons facepalms15:52
plarsyeah, that too... I thought it might almost be valid though, just written with a desktop slant vs. d-i specifics, but no15:53
balloonsplars, I'll swap in a server testsuite.. just ignore that for now16:02
plarsballoons: well, there's not an equivalent for server on image upgrade16:08
balloonsbasically the server upgrade is just one test16:08
balloonsusing do-release-upgrade16:08
balloonsnothing from an image16:08
ypwongballoons, I have proposed a merge request to fix the CJK test case16:31
balloonsypwong, awesome thank you, I'll have a look16:31
ypwongballoons, yw :)16:31
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balloonsypwong, did you manage to correct all the languages?16:52
ypwongballoons, for those already existed in the last version, i updated for all CJK16:52
balloonsI see.. thank you very much for that!16:52
balloonsthat's really helpful16:52
ypwongballoons, np, better to fix it once and for all :)16:53
ypwongbut will take more time to add new strings so I didn't do that16:53
balloonssure :-) Getting what we have correct is the priority16:53
balloonsso happy to have you and the kylin team16:54
Letozaf_Hi guys, Yesterday I upgraded my PC from 12.10 to Raring for testing, this is what I get after reboot, the username, password an PC-name fields have a white background: https://plus.google.com/photos/110772571847074999454/albums/5870460612127404401?authkey=CP6RrKP__8rILw17:08
SergioMenesesballoons, I changed the bug status to FixReleased - bug 1157436 because I saw you merged it17:16
ubot5bug 1157436 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Totem testcase needs expanded" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115743617:16
balloonsexcellent. I try and do that usually, but I miss it sometimes :-)17:17
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, that is rare... I updated my system without errors17:18
balloonsSo, anyone who is curious and/or able/willing, etc.. The server team needs some results from us :-)17:33
SergioMenesesballoons, what kind of results?17:54
* SergioMeneses read the email17:57
balloonsSergioMeneses, test results of course ;-) Download the iso and try installing it.. the server isos have some interesting installations17:57
balloonsthere are over 20 testcases in here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42960/testcases17:58
SergioMenesesballoons, I was checking that :)18:00
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chotawatcheeballoons, when is the designated time cut off for raring testing?18:02
balloonswhen the images are marked as ready :-)18:03
balloonsuntil then, we test :-) In general it'll be sometime tomorrow18:03
balloonsyou'll see the images struckout on the tracker18:03
SergioMenesesballoons, but ubuntu-server testing will be until tomorrow?18:05
balloonsyes, it will be the same18:05
chotawatcheeballoons, the gnome icons weren't displaying properly in xubuntu, but ubuntu studio there was quite few icons not displaying properly do i need to file bug for each icon set?18:09
balloonschotawatchee, if you believe it's the same package, you could file one bug and mark both as being affected18:10
balloonsdo you know how to do that?18:10
chotawatcheeballoons, this would all be xfce4 settings manager18:12
balloonsgotcha, then yes I would file one bug, mark as affects both18:12
balloonswe can help mark sure it's marked properly if needed :-)18:12
chotawatcheeballoons,  ok how do i mark it properly?18:13
balloonssee the + affects button?18:15
balloonsadd the xubuntu and ubuntu studio project there18:16
balloonserr.. it's also affects distribution :-)18:16
SergioMenesesok guys I have to go out!18:19
SergioMenesessee you later18:19
balloonsSergioMeneses, see you!18:19
jbichahi, has anyone here tested "Install Alongside" with an existing Ubuntu install?18:58
balloonsjbicha, yes.. like install raring alongside precise?18:59
jbichaI'm thinking about bug 1164592 and wondering whether we should disable the button if it doesn't work and there isn't time for it to be fixed18:59
ubot5bug 1164592 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity freezes in Install Alongside screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116459218:59
jbichaballoons: yes, my testing was with installing Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 alongside Ubuntu GNOME 13.0418:59
jbichait seems odd for a bug to only affect our flavor but I haven't tested the others19:01
balloonsjbicha, well let's see what happens to my raring install19:05
balloonssince that was your issue19:05
balloonsso you don't get past the resize screen?19:07
camelinahatballoons, On the resize screen it locks up. (can't move the slider, can't change the drop down for the drive, etc).19:07
balloonsgotcha.. yea, worked fine for me19:08
balloonsI'm past that point atm19:08
balloonsso.. a few things.. is this on bare metal or vm?19:08
jbichahere it was on bare metal19:08
jbichaok well if it works for Ubuntu then I guess we can't just disable the button19:09
balloonsyes.. I see someone from lubuntu confirmed lubuntu was fine too19:10
balloonsso, let's try in a vm with ubuntu gnome19:10
balloonsyou have the iso handy?19:10
balloonsif so, then it's a hw issue..19:10
balloonsI meant do you have it downloaded? hehe.. I don't have that one synced19:11
camelinahatI had the issue myself in a vm19:12
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balloonsI agree it's odd that only ubuntu gnome would have the issue, but not impossible by any means19:13
balloonsdoes your hw allow you to install alongside if you use the ubuntu image?19:14
camelinahatballoons, I was going to try that next.19:15
camelinahatballoons, yeah the Ubuntu one works fantastic on the vm.19:35
balloonscamelinahat, jbicha so have we done enough to confirm this is only a ubuntu gnome issue?19:35
balloonsjbicha, on your hw does a ubuntu image work?19:35
camelinahatI've got to run for tonight. Thanks balloons. Good luck jbicha on tracking down the issue :S19:39
phillwballoons: are any teams desperately in need of testing amd64 or i386. I can zsync up an iso, but it does take a couple of hours.20:13
balloonssee the ubuntu gnome bug aboe20:14
balloonsotherwise, ubuntu server20:14
phillwyeah, I don't have an iso on my local machine for ubuntu-gnome, so it will be pretty much a full download.20:15
phillwI've asked for a ppc server tester, he's going to get some sleep and will be up early to have a look at it.20:15
jbichaphillw: I think we'll be fine for UG, I was just curious if other flavors had the bug too but it doesn't sound like they do20:19
phillwjbicha: I've not seen it any lubuntu tests. I can certainly d/l ubuntu-gnome over night and have a play tomorrow morning (UTC)20:21
phillwI do the amd64 alternate suite tests for lubuntu, and have many times done a side by side install.20:22
balloonsyes erik reported lubuntu was fine also20:26
phillwit'll take approx 2 hours for me to download the ubuntu-gnome amd64. I'll either flog it to death tonight, or do it in the morning (UTC)20:29
phillwit is the install side by side of ubuntu-gnome 13.04 that shows this problem?20:30
balloonsphillw, yea20:49
phillwballoons: okies, 100 minutes to go!20:50
SergioMenesesballoons, nice: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-quality-growth21:33
balloonsSergioMeneses, eh?21:36
SergioMenesesballoons, almost done21:38
balloonsahh :-)21:39
NoskcajIs there anything still needing testing other than kylin?21:41
balloonshey Noskcaj21:41
balloonsubuntu server could use love21:41
Noskcaji wouldn't have time to download it. when do we release?21:42
balloonstomorrow sometime is the release21:42
balloonsppc server would be awesome.. I don't remember if you have ppc hw or not21:43
Noskcajok, so i will have time, server seems ready except for PPC21:43
Noskcaji do, i'll try and get an iso while i'm at ANZAC day stuff21:43
balloons:-) ty Noskcaj !21:43
Noskcajphillw, can you help make sure everyone tests ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop on PPC?21:46
phillwNoskcaj: the ppc tester who looks after ppc-server has gone to bed. As for ubuntu-ppc, we have not been highly testing that concentrated recently on kubuntu-ppc.21:49
Noskcajnext cycle we need to make sure everyone has a PPC machine.21:50
phillwlol, yeah that would be ideal.21:50
balloonsNoskcaj, ppc machines for everyone21:52
balloonsI love it21:52
Letozaf_balloons, :) I have some bugs on ARM maybe you should know about21:53
Noskcajballoons, seriously though, you can get them for something like $30 on ebay, a computer recylcer etc.21:53
balloonsI havem21:54
balloonsI don't have room for more machines :-) My desk is already beyond full21:54
balloonsLetozaf_, ohh sure, what did we find?21:54
Letozaf_balloons, bug 1172480, bug 940334, bug 117249021:55
ubot5bug 1172480 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity: missing dropdown list when changing timezone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117248021:55
ubot5bug 940334 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity says I'm not connected to the internet, but I am" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94033421:55
ubot5bug 1172490 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity: time and date are wrong after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117249021:55
Letozaf_balloons, on this testcase: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/43004/testcases/1300/results/21:55
Letozaf_balloons, maybe the ARM guys should know about them21:56
balloonshmm.. let's see what they know about21:58
Noskcajballoons, you have room for this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-Desktop-M9971LL-B-January-2005-AS-IS-1-4-ghz-Power-Pc-g4-/190828268848?pt=Apple_Desktops&hash=item2c6e404d3021:59
balloonsNoskcaj, ahh a mac mini22:00
Noskcajplease buy, in the next week or so i'll give everyone a link to a mac in there area.22:00
balloonsLetozaf_, did you run the checks stephane listed in the bug?22:01
balloonsNoskcaj, :-) what ppc stuff do you have?22:01
Noskcajballoons, an ibook g4. i'm getting a different one tomorrow22:02
Letozaf_balloons, nope, but I will do it22:02
balloonsLetozaf_, ok.. I'll keep looking at the rest of the bugs :-)22:02
Letozaf_balloons, just finished reporting all the bugs I bumped into22:02
balloonswe'll present our consolidated findings22:02
Letozaf_balloons, ok I will go to bed now and do the tests tomorrow morning, is it too late ?22:03
balloonsI remember the black bar bug!22:03
Letozaf_balloons, yep still there22:04
balloonsLetozaf_, it's likely release notes at this point, so no ;-)22:04
balloonsLetozaf_, late for you! have a pleasant night.22:04
Letozaf_balloons, ok so tomorrow I will carry out stephane's checks and write the results in the bug report22:04
Letozaf_balloons, ok night :D22:05
Letozaf_balloons, buonanotte :D22:05
balloonsNoskcaj, I remember the ibooks.. I've never like apple hw though (I must be one of the few it seems!)22:06
balloonswhat's your new one going to be?22:06
Noskcajballoons, i hate apple, but this is a good way to get people using ubuntu. whatever CBNE has.22:06
balloonswere the g4's colored?22:06
balloonsthat was kind of interesting22:07
phillwwooh! lubuntu will be releasing the entire suite! Just been chatting with my boss! He's doing the last couple of test cases now.22:08
Noskcajphillw, YAY22:10
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Noskcajapparently the server ppc image is oversized, i cannot test it then22:49
phillwNoskcaj: one of PPC guys has gone for sleep, he will be back up and running tomorrow AM (UTC). As you can see, I've asked the L-QA PPC testers to try server and kubuntu.23:03
Noskcajyep, i was going to run some, but my mac is ultra low ram and CD only23:04
phillwyou can always play with the lubuntu ones :)23:07
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SergioMenesesballoons, Noskcaj smartboyhw phillw bug 117242223:31
ubot5bug 1172422 in ubuntu-website-content "Ubuntu Community lacks its historically prominent placement on Ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117242223:31
smartboyhwSergioMeneses: It's incomplete dudr23:32
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, I know but take a look23:32
smartboyhwSergioMeneses: I did, but I thought this bug will be fixed after the new community website is done.23:35
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, sure!23:36
SergioMeneseschilicuil, ping23:57
chilicuilSergioMeneses: pong23:58

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