[01:05] <balloons> plars, on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1445/info that was one that we were supposed to get clarified I think
[01:05] <balloons> apparently it never happened
[01:08] <plars> balloons: maybe it should just come out?
[01:32] <balloons> plars, yea, let me kill it
[01:33] <balloons> plars, should be gone now :-)
[01:34] <plars> balloons: thanks
[01:34] <balloons> if there's any more that are really marginal on server, I'm ok with gutting them
[01:34] <balloons> especially "run-once"
[01:34] <phillw> balloons: and there was me thinking out setting up an iSCSI instance on my server :(
[01:35] <phillw> :D :D :D
[01:36] <balloons> hehe
[01:36] <balloons> you can.. help us get a proper testcase :-)
[01:38] <phillw> I'll look into what needs doing for it. i only learned how to connect to an iSCSI system, not create one :D
[01:39] <phillw> balloons: but, lubuntu looks good to go, ppc testing is needed on the new 'CD' sized images and for the ac100 (arm) device. I'll be able to dive in and help out on any teams who need testing done once I crawl out of my crypt :)
[01:42] <phillw> balloons: by the way, with unetbootin and startup disk creator both having problems, have you any ideas other then using dd to use a usb device?
[01:42] <balloons> phillw, yes
[01:43] <phillw> please do share, as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/915626 is a show stopper to include in our notes.
[01:43] <Noskcaj> Kylin needs some testing, is it releasing for 13.04?
[01:43] <phillw> Noskcaj: I cannot read chinese!
[01:44] <Noskcaj> phillw, true. i was saying that more generally
[01:44] <Noskcaj> edubuntu and kubuntu seem to be where testing is needed.
[01:44] <phillw> Noskcaj: the guys from kylin are pretty dedicated.
[01:44] <Noskcaj> everything else just needs bugfixes
[01:45] <phillw> it has been a pleasure to get to know them, as it has for the ubuntu-gnome team
[01:46] <phillw> Noskcaj: well, as I sign off, go do some kubuntu and edubuntu testing :D
[01:46] <phillw> g'nite
[01:47] <Noskcaj> good night
[01:51] <balloons> phillw, sorry phone call interruption :-)
[01:51] <balloons> phillw, there are other tools
[01:51] <balloons> i'm a little hazy atm.. really tired
[01:56] <balloons> however, https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
[01:57] <balloons> you can run on ubuntu as well..
[01:57] <balloons> do you need a howto?
[01:59] <balloons> basically download and run
[01:59] <balloons> wget https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liveusb-creator/liveusb-creator-3.11.7.tar.bz2
[01:59] <balloons> sudo apt-get install python-parted isomd5sum python-pyisomd5sum python-urlgrabber extlinux python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus tar
[01:59] <balloons> extract tarball and run
[02:00] <balloons> liveusb-creator
[02:01] <balloons> phillw, ^^
[02:06] <balloons> in addition there is http://sourceforge.net/projects/multibootusb/ and https://launchpad.net/live-usb-install (both of which I've never used)
[05:35] <pitti> Good morning
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[07:28] <Noskcaj> dholbach, morning. all that still needs doing for raring is testing and bug 1172059
[07:29] <dholbach> hum
[07:29] <dholbach> I'm not sure I can help with that
[07:58] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: ping.
[07:59] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, pong
[07:59] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: I saw some logs of yesterday's #xubuntu-devel
[08:00] <Noskcaj> ok
[08:00] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Don't be said of you not appointed as release manager.
[08:00] <smartboyhw> s/said/ sad
[08:01] <Noskcaj> it was more something that phill said i should ask for.
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: The problem is that he told you to "ask"
[08:02] <smartboyhw> Which is sort of impolite:P
[08:03] <Noskcaj> yeah
[12:47] <balloons> noskcaj, thanks for getting that bug reported
[13:11] <smartboyhw> Hey balloons:)
[14:09] <smartboyhw> Respin again testers, there is a fix of ubiquity (Kubuntu one) that needs to respin the world.
[14:09] <xnox> smartboyhw: no.
[14:09] <xnox> smartboyhw: don't spread miss information.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> xnox: Tell me one sec earlier:P
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Sorry folks
[14:10] <balloons> :-p
[14:10] <xnox> smartboyhw: please read scrollbacks. there are no respins until packages are accepted & published. Which has not happened with ubiquity yet.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> xnox: Sorru
[14:10] <xnox> smartboyhw: thus even kubuntu respin is _likely_ but not confirmed.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> balloons: how are ya?
[14:11] <balloons> xnox, thanks for fixing btw :-)
[14:11] <balloons> smartboyhw, just fine, yourself?
[14:11] <smartboyhw> balloons: We are soon going to have Open Week again.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> Get a person to do a session! (you maybe)
[14:12] <balloons> xnox, so you think ubiquity should be able to read encrypted partitions (swap or otherwise) during an install?
[14:12] <xnox> balloons: huh. =) that's not the bugs fixed for kubuntu-ubiquity respin.
[14:13] <balloons> lol, no it's not.. It's this one plars and I discussed yesterday: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1172002
[14:13] <xnox> balloons: there are more details, I've explained it twice already =) once in #-installer and once in #-release.
[14:13] <balloons> k, I'll read there
[14:14] <xnox> balloons: bug 1172002 relates to a higher priority bug 1066480 which depends on bug 291494
[14:14] <xnox> thus all should be implement for it to be useful.
[14:14] <xnox> there is no harm apart from not having any swap......
[14:15] <balloons> I just wanted to confirm that it is possible.. I assumed it was not.. because at the moment ubiquity just lists the partitions as unknown and moves on
[14:16] <balloons> so for instance, I can't upgrade from ubiquity if I use an encrypted partition
[14:16] <balloons> I didn't think it was a bug :-)
[14:17] <xnox> balloons: it should allow you to upgrade, there will be extra popup "no swap" which one will have to dismiss.
[14:18] <xnox> ugly but not critical, as in it should succeed and not loose data.
[14:19] <balloons> xnox, this bug describes what happens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066480. If simply says, you have no OS, what do you want to do.. Yes, if you just use ecryptfs for an encrypted home it works as Paul described.. You get everything as normal, it just doesn't see or use the swap partition
[14:20] <balloons> anyways, thanks.. I didn't think it was a "bug"
[14:20] <smartboyhw> balloons: Open Week?
[14:20] <balloons> smartboyhw, open week eh.. you want to present?
[14:21] <xnox> balloons: yes, I know. there are tree bugs =) plar's new but has ugly workarounds. the 1066480 was release noted and can be worked around via live system login and mount. Fixing them properly requires fixing 291494 (note how small the number is)
[14:21] <smartboyhw> balloons: I would love to but no it's too close to exams
[14:21] <xnox> in general, I was not going to support any resize/reuse/replace/dual-boot setups with LVM&CRYPT in ubiquity. My concept was to only support fresh new wipe-all install with those.
[14:22] <balloons> yes.. I assumed mounting them via the live session then invoking the installer will always work :-)
[14:28] <smartboyhw> balloons: I suggest you do it yourself this time.
[14:29] <balloons> I don't remember if we had an open week session last time or not
[14:29] <smartboyhw> phillw might be busy with Lubuntu. Noskcaj nay represent
[14:29] <smartboyhw> Xuhuntu
[14:29] <smartboyhw> balloons: Last time it was me:P
[14:29] <smartboyhw> You are on leave I think that time
[14:30] <balloons> ahh
[14:31] <smartboyhw> balloons: You + SergioMeneses will be a good pair. Or adding Letozaf
[14:31] <balloons> all good options
[14:35] <smartboyhw> balloons: Try finding them and see what they wanna do.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> This year the schedule was much packed with only two days.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: ^ what's the reason?
[14:37] <JoseeAntonioR> smartboyhw: beacause I won't be able to host the third day on-air
[14:37] <JoseeAntonioR> if we have enough instructors I can make it 3-day, but until now it's set at 2 days
[14:37] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: OK.
[14:42] <smartboyhw> balloons: And I forgotten chilicuil for the list:P
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses, care to do an Open Week QA session with balloons?
[15:00] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, when is the openweek?
[15:00] <SergioMeneses> btw, hi everybody
[15:00] <balloons> howdy
[15:01] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: 22-23 May I think
[15:03] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[15:04] <SergioMeneses> balloons, what time do you have proposed?
[15:04] <balloons> SergioMeneses, this is all smartboyhw :-) I don't even know the dates
[15:05] <balloons> lol
[15:05] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: Yep.
[15:05] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:05] <balloons> I take things one day at a time during release wekk
[15:05] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:05] <SergioMeneses> balloons, jajaja
[15:06] <SergioMeneses> I dont know what I'm going to talk about but count with me
[15:46] <plars> balloons: are we sure that http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1498/info is valid for server?
[15:47] <balloons> plars, ahh the ubiquity upgrade
[15:47] <balloons> for server hmm.. I can't say I've ever tried to upgrade server that way ;-) It's a desktop install disc!
[15:48] <balloons> it's certainly not intended
[15:49] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, do any of you would like to do an ubuntu quality team session for openweek? :)
[15:50] <JoseeAntonioR> maybe balloons?
[15:50] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, lol.. smartboyhw has been going on about it
[15:50] <plars> balloons: ok, just confirmed on u-installer, that test should not be there
[15:50] <balloons> I have no comment till raring is out ;-) That's my official statement
[15:50] <balloons> lol
[15:50] <balloons> plars, is it in server somewhere?
[15:51] <plars> balloons: yes, server upgrade test (image) for i386 and amd64
[15:51] <balloons> ohh
[15:51] <balloons> gotcha, yea, no no
[15:51]  * balloons was confused why you asked abou tit
[15:52] <balloons> LOL -- i looked at the linked testsuites for ubuntu server upgrade
[15:52] <balloons> "Desktop Upgrade" testsuite
[15:52]  * balloons facepalms
[15:53] <plars> yeah, that too... I thought it might almost be valid though, just written with a desktop slant vs. d-i specifics, but no
[16:02] <balloons> plars, I'll swap in a server testsuite.. just ignore that for now
[16:08] <plars> balloons: well, there's not an equivalent for server on image upgrade
[16:08] <balloons> basically the server upgrade is just one test
[16:08] <balloons> using do-release-upgrade
[16:08] <balloons> nothing from an image
[16:10] <plars> right
[16:31] <ypwong> balloons, I have proposed a merge request to fix the CJK test case
[16:31] <balloons> ypwong, awesome thank you, I'll have a look
[16:31] <ypwong> balloons, yw :)
[16:52] <balloons> ypwong, did you manage to correct all the languages?
[16:52] <ypwong> balloons, for those already existed in the last version, i updated for all CJK
[16:52] <balloons> I see.. thank you very much for that!
[16:52] <balloons> that's really helpful
[16:53] <ypwong> balloons, np, better to fix it once and for all :)
[16:53] <ypwong> but will take more time to add new strings so I didn't do that
[16:53] <balloons> sure :-) Getting what we have correct is the priority
[16:54] <balloons> so happy to have you and the kylin team
[17:08] <Letozaf_> Hi guys, Yesterday I upgraded my PC from 12.10 to Raring for testing, this is what I get after reboot, the username, password an PC-name fields have a white background: https://plus.google.com/photos/110772571847074999454/albums/5870460612127404401?authkey=CP6RrKP__8rILw
[17:16] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I changed the bug status to FixReleased - bug 1157436 because I saw you merged it
[17:17] <balloons> excellent. I try and do that usually, but I miss it sometimes :-)
[17:18] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, that is rare... I updated my system without errors
[17:33] <balloons> So, anyone who is curious and/or able/willing, etc.. The server team needs some results from us :-)
[17:54] <SergioMeneses> balloons, what kind of results?
[17:57]  * SergioMeneses read the email
[17:57] <balloons> SergioMeneses, test results of course ;-) Download the iso and try installing it.. the server isos have some interesting installations
[17:58] <balloons> there are over 20 testcases in here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42960/testcases
[18:00] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I was checking that :)
[18:02] <chotawatchee> balloons, when is the designated time cut off for raring testing?
[18:03] <balloons> when the images are marked as ready :-)
[18:03] <balloons> until then, we test :-) In general it'll be sometime tomorrow
[18:03] <balloons> you'll see the images struckout on the tracker
[18:05] <SergioMeneses> balloons, but ubuntu-server testing will be until tomorrow?
[18:05] <balloons> yes, it will be the same
[18:07] <SergioMeneses> mmm....
[18:09] <chotawatchee> balloons, the gnome icons weren't displaying properly in xubuntu, but ubuntu studio there was quite few icons not displaying properly do i need to file bug for each icon set?
[18:10] <balloons> chotawatchee, if you believe it's the same package, you could file one bug and mark both as being affected
[18:10] <balloons> do you know how to do that?
[18:12] <chotawatchee> balloons, this would all be xfce4 settings manager
[18:12] <balloons> gotcha, then yes I would file one bug, mark as affects both
[18:12] <balloons> we can help mark sure it's marked properly if needed :-)
[18:13] <chotawatchee> balloons,  ok how do i mark it properly?
[18:15] <balloons> see the + affects button?
[18:16] <balloons> add the xubuntu and ubuntu studio project there
[18:16] <balloons> err.. it's also affects distribution :-)
[18:16] <balloons> sorry
[18:19] <SergioMeneses> ok guys I have to go out!
[18:19] <SergioMeneses> see you later
[18:19] <balloons> SergioMeneses, see you!
[18:58] <jbicha> hi, has anyone here tested "Install Alongside" with an existing Ubuntu install?
[18:59] <balloons> jbicha, yes.. like install raring alongside precise?
[18:59] <jbicha> I'm thinking about bug 1164592 and wondering whether we should disable the button if it doesn't work and there isn't time for it to be fixed
[18:59] <jbicha> balloons: yes, my testing was with installing Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 alongside Ubuntu GNOME 13.04
[19:01] <jbicha> it seems odd for a bug to only affect our flavor but I haven't tested the others
[19:05] <balloons> jbicha, well let's see what happens to my raring install
[19:05] <balloons> since that was your issue
[19:06] <jbicha> thanks
[19:07] <balloons> so you don't get past the resize screen?
[19:07] <balloons> or?
[19:07] <camelinahat> balloons, On the resize screen it locks up. (can't move the slider, can't change the drop down for the drive, etc).
[19:08] <balloons> gotcha.. yea, worked fine for me
[19:08] <balloons> I'm past that point atm
[19:08] <balloons> so.. a few things.. is this on bare metal or vm?
[19:08] <camelinahat> vm
[19:08] <jbicha> here it was on bare metal
[19:09] <jbicha> ok well if it works for Ubuntu then I guess we can't just disable the button
[19:10] <balloons> yes.. I see someone from lubuntu confirmed lubuntu was fine too
[19:10] <balloons> so, let's try in a vm with ubuntu gnome
[19:10] <balloons> you have the iso handy?
[19:10] <balloons> if so, then it's a hw issue..
[19:11] <jbicha> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[19:11] <balloons> I meant do you have it downloaded? hehe.. I don't have that one synced
[19:12] <camelinahat> I had the issue myself in a vm
[19:13] <balloons> I agree it's odd that only ubuntu gnome would have the issue, but not impossible by any means
[19:14] <balloons> does your hw allow you to install alongside if you use the ubuntu image?
[19:15] <camelinahat> balloons, I was going to try that next.
[19:20] <balloons> gotcha
[19:35] <camelinahat> balloons, yeah the Ubuntu one works fantastic on the vm.
[19:35] <balloons> camelinahat, jbicha so have we done enough to confirm this is only a ubuntu gnome issue?
[19:35] <balloons> jbicha, on your hw does a ubuntu image work?
[19:39] <camelinahat> I've got to run for tonight. Thanks balloons. Good luck jbicha on tracking down the issue :S
[20:13] <phillw> balloons: are any teams desperately in need of testing amd64 or i386. I can zsync up an iso, but it does take a couple of hours.
[20:14] <balloons> see the ubuntu gnome bug aboe
[20:14] <balloons> otherwise, ubuntu server
[20:15] <phillw> yeah, I don't have an iso on my local machine for ubuntu-gnome, so it will be pretty much a full download.
[20:15] <phillw> I've asked for a ppc server tester, he's going to get some sleep and will be up early to have a look at it.
[20:19] <jbicha> phillw: I think we'll be fine for UG, I was just curious if other flavors had the bug too but it doesn't sound like they do
[20:21] <phillw> jbicha: I've not seen it any lubuntu tests. I can certainly d/l ubuntu-gnome over night and have a play tomorrow morning (UTC)
[20:22] <phillw> I do the amd64 alternate suite tests for lubuntu, and have many times done a side by side install.
[20:26] <balloons> yes erik reported lubuntu was fine also
[20:29] <phillw> it'll take approx 2 hours for me to download the ubuntu-gnome amd64. I'll either flog it to death tonight, or do it in the morning (UTC)
[20:30] <phillw> it is the install side by side of ubuntu-gnome 13.04 that shows this problem?
[20:49] <balloons> phillw, yea
[20:50] <phillw> balloons: okies, 100 minutes to go!
[21:33] <SergioMeneses> balloons, nice: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-quality-growth
[21:36] <balloons> SergioMeneses, eh?
[21:38] <SergioMeneses> balloons, almost done
[21:39] <balloons> ahh :-)
[21:41] <Noskcaj> Is there anything still needing testing other than kylin?
[21:41] <balloons> hey Noskcaj
[21:41] <Noskcaj> hello
[21:41] <balloons> ubuntu server could use love
[21:42] <Noskcaj> i wouldn't have time to download it. when do we release?
[21:42] <balloons> tomorrow sometime is the release
[21:43] <balloons> ppc server would be awesome.. I don't remember if you have ppc hw or not
[21:43] <Noskcaj> ok, so i will have time, server seems ready except for PPC
[21:43] <Noskcaj> i do, i'll try and get an iso while i'm at ANZAC day stuff
[21:43] <balloons> :-) ty Noskcaj !
[21:46] <Noskcaj> phillw, can you help make sure everyone tests ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop on PPC?
[21:49] <phillw> Noskcaj: the ppc tester who looks after ppc-server has gone to bed. As for ubuntu-ppc, we have not been highly testing that concentrated recently on kubuntu-ppc.
[21:49] <Noskcaj> understandable
[21:50] <Noskcaj> next cycle we need to make sure everyone has a PPC machine.
[21:50] <phillw> lol, yeah that would be ideal.
[21:52] <balloons> Noskcaj, ppc machines for everyone
[21:52] <balloons> lol
[21:52] <balloons> I love it
[21:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, :) I have some bugs on ARM maybe you should know about
[21:53] <Noskcaj> balloons, seriously though, you can get them for something like $30 on ebay, a computer recylcer etc.
[21:54] <balloons> I havem
[21:54] <balloons> I don't have room for more machines :-) My desk is already beyond full
[21:54] <balloons> hah!
[21:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh sure, what did we find?
[21:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, bug 1172480, bug 940334, bug 1172490
[21:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, on this testcase: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/43004/testcases/1300/results/
[21:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, maybe the ARM guys should know about them
[21:58] <balloons> hmm.. let's see what they know about
[21:59] <Noskcaj> balloons, you have room for this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-Desktop-M9971LL-B-January-2005-AS-IS-1-4-ghz-Power-Pc-g4-/190828268848?pt=Apple_Desktops&hash=item2c6e404d30
[22:00] <balloons> Noskcaj, ahh a mac mini
[22:00] <Noskcaj> please buy, in the next week or so i'll give everyone a link to a mac in there area.
[22:01] <balloons> Letozaf_, did you run the checks stephane listed in the bug?
[22:01] <balloons> Noskcaj, :-) what ppc stuff do you have?
[22:02] <Noskcaj> balloons, an ibook g4. i'm getting a different one tomorrow
[22:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, nope, but I will do it
[22:02] <balloons> Letozaf_, ok.. I'll keep looking at the rest of the bugs :-)
[22:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, just finished reporting all the bugs I bumped into
[22:02] <balloons> we'll present our consolidated findings
[22:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will go to bed now and do the tests tomorrow morning, is it too late ?
[22:03] <balloons> I remember the black bar bug!
[22:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, yep still there
[22:04] <balloons> Letozaf_, it's likely release notes at this point, so no ;-)
[22:04] <balloons> Letozaf_, late for you! have a pleasant night.
[22:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok so tomorrow I will carry out stephane's checks and write the results in the bug report
[22:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok night :D
[22:05] <balloons> buonanotte!
[22:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, buonanotte :D
[22:06] <balloons> Noskcaj, I remember the ibooks.. I've never like apple hw though (I must be one of the few it seems!)
[22:06] <balloons> what's your new one going to be?
[22:06] <Noskcaj> balloons, i hate apple, but this is a good way to get people using ubuntu. whatever CBNE has.
[22:06] <balloons> were the g4's colored?
[22:07] <Noskcaj> some
[22:07] <balloons> that was kind of interesting
[22:08] <phillw> wooh! lubuntu will be releasing the entire suite! Just been chatting with my boss! He's doing the last couple of test cases now.
[22:10] <Noskcaj> phillw, YAY
[22:49] <Noskcaj> apparently the server ppc image is oversized, i cannot test it then
[23:03] <phillw> Noskcaj: one of PPC guys has gone for sleep, he will be back up and running tomorrow AM (UTC). As you can see, I've asked the L-QA PPC testers to try server and kubuntu.
[23:04] <Noskcaj> yep, i was going to run some, but my mac is ultra low ram and CD only
[23:07] <phillw> you can always play with the lubuntu ones :)
[23:31] <SergioMeneses> balloons, Noskcaj smartboyhw phillw bug 1172422
[23:32] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: It's incomplete dudr
[23:32] <smartboyhw> dude
[23:32] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I know but take a look
[23:35] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: I did, but I thought this bug will be fixed after the new community website is done.
[23:36] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, sure!
[23:57] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, ping
[23:58] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: pong
[23:59] <SergioMeneses> pm