[02:35] <jrwren> snap-l: getting around 9Mbit up.  887KB/s
[11:45] <snap-l> jrwren: Nice!
[11:45] <snap-l> Also: Good morning
[12:18] <rick_h_> morning
[12:19] <brousch> yes
[12:20] <rick_h_> rainy morning though. Was nice yesterday. Finally went to the park
[12:22] <brousch> I got that POST to work
[12:23] <brousch> I append a uid at the end inside of [], then run through all of the POST data to build models from all of the pieces
[12:25] <rick_h_> cool
[12:26] <brousch> Seems barbaric
[12:32] <brousch> I think it would be easier and more elegant if I stored each change in Javascript instead of a bulk update
[12:32] <brousch> But that's what the people wanted
[13:06] <snap-l> Hey, barbarians are quite effective. :)
[13:13] <jrwren> jcastro: are you interested in carpool to Fun with Fanzoo & CHC Woodward tonight?
[13:16] <jcastro> jrwren: any night but tonight!
[13:16] <jcastro> 13.04 is tomorrow, I have like 3 things I have to finish and I'm behind
[13:18] <jrwren> lame.
[13:18] <jrwren> but congrats on another release.
[13:18] <jrwren> next month then!
[13:20] <rick_h_> CHC LONG tonight!
[13:20] <rick_h_> oh, reminds me. I need to get that second disk for jrwren
[13:30] <jrwren> yes, plz bring me any disks you don't want.
[13:30] <jrwren> for that matter, my work is having an e-waste event tomorrow, so if you have ewaste to be recycled, I can take it if it is not TOO much
[13:35]  * snap-l gets the unibvac out
[13:35] <snap-l> That would have been 10x more funny had I spelled it right
[13:37] <brousch> 10x0 is still 0!
[13:42] <jrwren> lol. now THAT is funny.
[13:42] <jrwren> would have been even funnier if you had wrote ten times zero as 0x10 so we could have said, no it isn't zero, it is 16.
[15:15] <snap-l> http://www.staples.com/Fittings/cat_CL167211
[15:16] <snap-l> I remember another company doing this "Let's be everything to everyone" tactic.
[15:16] <snap-l> Comp USA
[15:53]  * jrwren checks github to see what vim colorscheme rick_h uses
[15:54] <jrwren> hornet and lucius
[15:54] <rick_h_> hmm, outdated
[15:55] <rick_h_> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/948/
[15:55] <rick_h_> is the current block of code around there :)
[15:56] <jrwren> ty
[15:56]  * rick_h_ notes to push vim updates sometime
[15:57] <jrwren> renders as ir_black with a lighter bg for me. is that bout right?
[15:57] <rick_h_> jrwren: which one?
[16:00] <jrwren> aldmeris
[16:01] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, kind of ligher grey and darker theme
[16:01] <jrwren> i think i'll try torte for a while
[16:01] <rick_h_> good one
[16:10] <snap-l> I'm using synic right now
[16:11] <jrwren> that looks pretty good. screenshot is python example
[16:11] <jrwren> i might like slightly higher contrast
[16:11] <snap-l> I like it because it's terminal friendly
[16:12] <snap-l> tend to run vim in terminal more than gvim
[16:12] <jrwren> may this monitor is just too low contrast.
[16:12] <jrwren> or... reloading hte vimrc isn't working correctly
[16:13] <jrwren> or... the colors used in vimrc are just that different from the python
[16:43] <rick_h_> jrwren: you need a colorhug :)
[16:52] <snap-l> MetroPCS is now a part of T-Mobile
[16:52] <snap-l> all that's left is the paperwork
[17:01] <jrwren> having a local mirror is just awesome fast. even at only 100mbit
[17:01] <greg-g> I still don't understand why we don't have local mirrors in the WMF office, I asked and the response I got was "no, we're on a 100mbit connection"
[17:02] <flipsidecreation> I tested the http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html last night and it seems to work well
[17:02] <rick_h_> flipsidecreation: cool
[17:03] <flipsidecreation> very simple to share files with one or many people.
[17:04] <flipsidecreation> Read only, read write, and temp shares.  It really is a serverless drop box
[17:13] <flipsidecreation> I don't know that I would completely trust it just yet but as a project it looks very promising
[17:39] <greg-g> dooods!
[17:39] <greg-g> I'm "sitting" on one of these: http://store.focaluprightfurniture.com/locus-seat.html
[17:40] <rick_h_> greg-g: very cool
[17:41] <greg-g> yeah, it's comfy
[17:44] <flipsidecreation> greg-g: interesting
[17:57] <_stink_> uh
[17:57] <_stink_> does it not hurt your balls?
[17:57]  * _stink_ turns his head to try to figure it out
[17:58] <rick_h_> _stink_: he's a bike rider, they're inpervious at this point :P
[17:58] <_stink_> ohhhh right
[17:58] <flipsidecreation> I just watched the video and I could see myself falling off
[17:58] <greg-g> heh
[17:58] <greg-g> nah, no stuff hurting
[17:58] <rick_h_> _stink_: if anything, it needs a more carbon fiber performance seat on it
[17:58] <greg-g> its one of those really comfy recumbent style seats
[17:59] <flipsidecreation> recumbent seats are quite comfy
[18:07] <jhansonxi> I have a TerraTrike Rover recumbent and its seat is quite comfortable.  I'm thinking of adding something similar to my Hobie kayak.
[18:07] <brousch> Why would you want to sit on a bike seat all day?
[18:08] <brousch> You could just jam an apple under your nuts if you like the feeling
[18:08] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: sweet, I have a terratrike as well.
[18:09] <jhansonxi> I'm planning on making a chain case for mine but haven't had time to work on it.  Chain gets too grimy on gravel roads and trails.
[18:10] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: just get the chain tubes, they are simple and work well for that
[18:10] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: I think the hostel shop sells them
[18:11] <greg-g> brousch: it's more, how can you not sit all day, but without the fatigue of standing in one spot
[18:11] <jhansonxi> That's not enough.  I ride in winter and have to oil to chain to keep it from rusting.  It also becomes a dirt magnet.  I've added a rear shield but want to expand it to a fully enclosed case. https://terratrike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1344
[18:12] <greg-g> jhansonxi: if it is getting too dirty, reduce the amount of oil on your chain.
[18:12] <greg-g> remember, lubing is a two step process 1) apply lube... (wait) 2) clean off excess lube
[18:13] <greg-g> too much lube with draw in dirt from the outside into the sensitive parts of the chain
[18:13] <jhansonxi> The rear tire constantly dumps dirt on it so a fully enclosed case it the best solution.  The only real problem is the need for a tensioner.
[18:13] <greg-g> ah, well, that's another story ;)
[18:14] <flipsidecreation> Nice job enclosing the rear wheel
[18:15] <jhansonxi> It's not enclosed, just a shield between the tire and chain.
[18:17] <jhansonxi> After I enclose it I'm going to add a lighting system.  I bought a 10Ah auxiliary battery pack (for use with cell phones) and a few LED flashlights.  Just need switches and wire.
[18:17] <jhansonxi> I'm also thinking about using some pipe and a tarp to make a roof so I can ignore rain.
[18:20] <flipsidecreation> I have some LED lights on mine http://i.imgur.com/NcMuXir.jpg
[18:21] <jhansonxi> That's almost ridiculous. :D
[18:22] <jhansonxi> What model is that?
[18:22] <flipsidecreation> Tour
[18:24] <flipsidecreation> This is how I bough it http://i.imgur.com/x10gQ1Z.jpg
[18:25] <jhansonxi> I bought mine assembled at their store near Grand Rapids.  They wouldn't sell it as a kit and the shipping cost was over $200 but they were within driving distance.
[18:27] <jhansonxi> I like the Rover because it is compact (and cheap at $1250).  Its square-frame design makes it easy to add a pintle mount for weapons (hostile deer, drivers that don't yield, etc.)
[18:28] <flipsidecreation> I bought mine used for real cheap then started doing all the custom work to it like the paint https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/460789_3248088916972_1398858549_o.jpg
[18:28] <flipsidecreation> it was fun to build it
[18:29] <jhansonxi> I'll be having plenty of fun modding mine.  I just need time to plan everything out and draw it up in DraftSight.
[18:30] <flipsidecreation> its a fun hobby
[18:31] <flipsidecreation> I have blue lights on my actionbent recumbent http://i.imgur.com/MEbmGui.jpg
[18:31] <jhansonxi> Yes, but time-consuming.  I have a Hobie Outback kayak to mod also: http://www.hobiecat.com/mirage/mirage-outback/
[18:32] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: Nice
[18:32] <jhansonxi> Needs paddlewheels for shallow rivers.  My arms are too worn out from abusing mice for paddling.
[18:33] <jhansonxi> Got it on sale here (near Pinconning): http://www.franksgreatoutdoors.com/kayaks-2
[18:34] <jhansonxi> Bought it in November.  Only been out once with it.  Was hard to maneuver but mostly because of the snowsuit (was only 35 deg out)
[18:36] <jhansonxi> flipsidecreation: Are you going to Penguicon?  We could meet up.
[18:36] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: I wish I was, I already have other plans
[18:38] <flipsidecreation> PenguinCon is going in my calendar for next year for sure
[18:39] <jhansonxi> Where are you located?  I'm near Alpena.
[18:40] <greg-g> haha (re snow suit and kayaking) :)
[18:40] <greg-g> love it, love hard core Michiganders
[18:40] <flipsidecreation> Taylor Tucky here
[18:40] <jhansonxi> greg-g: After spending what I did, I wasn't going to wait until spring to try it.
[18:41] <greg-g> I wouldn't!
[18:43] <jhansonxi> flipsidecreation: In Wayne county?
[18:44] <flipsidecreation> yup
[18:45] <rick_h_> musical hard drives! yaaaay! which one of the three is the one actually used and mounted to /home? that's the question
[18:45] <jhansonxi> Any decent trails over there?  The only trails I've been on in the Detroit area is the South Lyon rail trail and the Kensington Park loop.
[18:46] <rick_h_> and more yay, pulling out any means their mount order changes
[18:47] <jhansonxi> rick_h: My first computer was SCSI and had one of the first Quantum 7200 RPM drives.  It whined continuously.  I didn't realize that was a problem until it failed.
[18:52] <snap-l> The only problem I can see with that locus seat is I twist a lot
[18:53] <greg-g> snap-l: it twists
[18:53] <snap-l> so getting things out of my file cabinet would be a PITA
[18:53] <rick_h_> bah, and my only boot disk handy is a server install :(
[18:53] <snap-l> oh, then disregard
[18:53] <greg-g> snap-l: only been on it for like 1 hour, but it is growing on me
[18:53] <snap-l> That's cool
[18:53] <greg-g> I'll let you know at the end of the day
[18:53] <snap-l> (said the guy sitting on his balls)
[18:54] <greg-g> we're all sitting on our balls as much as I am! (pardon to the female members of the channel)
[18:54] <jrwren> rick_h_: bring me your old musical hard drives :)
[18:55] <rick_h_> jrwren: I'm trying, but the darned things don't say which has the os on it
[18:55] <rick_h_> jrwren: and then grub went boom. So now I'm just saying screw it. I'm giong to ditch this desktop anyway so just need a usb boot so I can backup my one 3tb usb drive to another one
[18:55] <rick_h_> of course my usb boot isn't a boot, but server isntall :(
[18:56] <snap-l> greg-g: yeah, but I have a big ball that I rest the other balls on
[18:56] <greg-g> and in the wikimedia-staff channel we're talking about the PEN 15 error, what a day
[18:57] <snap-l> heh
[18:57] <snap-l> Had to look that one up
[18:57] <greg-g> :)
[19:12] <jrwren> :(
[19:19] <jhansonxi> rick_h: smartctl will tell you the SN which will be on the drive label
[19:19] <rick_h_> jhansonxi: ah, yea would have been cool. /me notes
[19:21] <jhansonxi> Also hdparm -i
[19:24] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: Do you come downstate very often?
[19:24] <jrwren> i have to admit, I'm getting tired of hard disk failures :(
[19:26] <jhansonxi> flipsidecreation: Only if a customer wants me to do some electronic prototype assembly.  Mostly I do PCB design over the Internet.
[19:30] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: My parents live in West Branch, I go up there to do some biking from time to time
[19:31] <flipsidecreation> jhansonxi: Me and the wife are thinking about a trip to ride the trails around Alpena
[19:31] <jhansonxi> This is the best in the area: http://trailscouncil.org/index.php?page=north-eastern-state-trail
[19:32] <jhansonxi> I've only been as far a Posen.
[19:32] <jhansonxi> There was some erosion near the Alpena side but you can detour around it on side roads.
[19:32] <flipsidecreation> that does look sweet
[19:33] <jhansonxi> Crushed limestone.  It does get soft near a small lake and there is some channels cut across due to erosion but it's nice.  Just wear a head net around dusk unless you like eating bugs.
[19:34] <flipsidecreation> In my area I ride from Dearborn to Northville and back http://goo.gl/maps/llei3
[19:34] <flipsidecreation> nice ride, all paved blacktop
[19:36] <jhansonxi> Maybe I'll try it the next time I'm down there overnight.  I used to live in Redford and regularly attended the MUG/MDLUG/LugWash meetings.
[19:38] <flipsidecreation> I used to go to the lugwash meetings, but it has been a while
[19:39] <jhansonxi> Invariably, when a customer needs me on-site it's the last week of the month when there aren't any LUG meetings.
[20:31] <jhansonxi> I just received an email from Boyne Mountain resort.  Their golf season starts Friday and their slopes are open for skiing.  That's Michigan weather for you. :P
[20:34] <greg-g> hah
[20:36] <flipsidecreation> yup, sleet & rain here now
[21:47] <jrwren> anyone help me with a dpkg-parsechangelog warning I'd like to fix?
[21:47] <jrwren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599511/
[21:49] <jrwren> nevermind. I suck
[23:48] <mathomastech> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268&IsVirtualParent=1