[00:05] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: Hurray expect a respin in the next 24 hours, Kubuntu has a encrpytion password matching bugfix to go in.
[00:06] <smartboyhw> Maybe no, but just a warning;P
[00:09] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, i think when it's related to Kubuntu only and the ubuntu studio iso's are ok, it doesn't affect us
[00:11] <DarkEra> i could be mistaken though
[00:16] <zequence> I hate tutorials/manuals/references that are written as if the person reading it should already know what it is instructing
[00:16] <zequence> After much work, I'm finally doing some filtering with imapfilter using the lua scripting language
[00:17] <madeinkobaia> zequence : Congrats : )
[00:21] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Thanks
[00:22] <madeinkobaia> I just finished a study work on Ubuntu Studio : http://sta.sh/015tu875d4ft
[00:22] <zequence> Aside from creating a personal filtering system, I also want to create something easy for other developers to set up in order to track massive amounts of mail coming from different mail lists
[00:23] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Looks nice
[00:23] <madeinkobaia> Its kind of mix of many things, a graphical improvisation. Nothing official, now we could do something.
[00:23] <madeinkobaia> What do you think of the slogan ?
[00:26] <zequence> "Sound & Vision"? It's stylish. Resembles a brand more than a slogan perhaps. 
[00:26] <zequence> The coloring is nice though
[00:27] <zequence> From white to blue, and since they are two different subjects, it's also symbolic
[00:29] <madeinkobaia> Thanks for the feedback. (btw Its a Bowie album too)
[00:29] <zequence> Right. Must be from where I get some vibes :)
[00:31] <madeinkobaia> For sure. I searched on gog, there are no notable brands using that sentence. First I started on "Audio, Video, Graphics", but its was a little bit long so I switched on that.
[00:34] <zequence> When using it in context with Ubuntu Studio, it feels like it suits best in a poetic fashion. Like, a made up brand name. If you add the text to the picture, it becomes an expansion of the graphics
[00:35] <zequence> The more weight on "Sound & Vision", the more towards the poetic, IMO
[00:35] <zequence> I was just thinking about what if we would use our own codenames
[00:36] <zequence> Or, additional code names. 
[00:37] <zequence> But, it would just be confusing, I think. At least, not very helpful anyway
[00:39] <madeinkobaia> Those kind of questions are important and needs reflexion. The concept is open. Now graphical studys are a good way for exploring new ideas.
[00:44] <madeinkobaia> I ask my self if I will expose it on deviantart for celebrate the release out. As "non official" advertising of course. Now it is hidden, its just on my personal storage place on dA (dA = deviantart).
[00:46] <zequence> I don't see any other reason not to publish personal stuff. 
[00:47] <zequence> I mean, I don't see any reason not to publish personal stuff
[00:47] <zequence> Reading through my inbox, which now holds all the mail from 1st of January. 79 mail lists so far (not all of them are actual mail lists)
[00:48] <madeinkobaia> Ok
[00:48] <zequence> madeinkobaia: I even think it would be nice to showcase stuff on our website
[00:49] <zequence> Anything that was done with Ubuntu Studio could be posted as "news"
[00:49] <madeinkobaia> For sure, could be great. 
[00:49] <zequence> And one could keep a gallery of stuff too
[00:50] <madeinkobaia> It was done on Gimp at 100% 
[00:50] <madeinkobaia> Even the text part (I was patient :D )
[00:51] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Did you smudge the text? I don't know how to make it smooth myself, so I generally use Inkscape for doing text
[00:52] <madeinkobaia> zequence : smudge, you mean blur ?
[00:52] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Yeah :)
[00:53] <madeinkobaia> Oh its really easy, you enter the text with the text tool (who unfortunately really needs to be improve) then you select your layer and in
[00:55] <madeinkobaia> ..filter, then "blur", then Gaussian blur and you enter a blur between 0,1 and 0,9, the result will really smooth
[00:55] <madeinkobaia> I translate from French, but I think its ok
[00:56] <zequence> I've experimented with that, but if you want sharp text with smooth lines, I find it hard to do with Gimp. The text looks very uneven
[00:56] <zequence> Something about it being drawn seems so fundamentally different to how it happens in Inkscape
[00:57] <madeinkobaia> Uneven ? Normally there is no problem, I done like that.
[00:58] <madeinkobaia> Inkscape works vectorial, so its really more powerfull for work on text
[00:59] <madeinkobaia> On Gimp when you apply a filter you're text layer is automatically swtich on Bitmap. That's really a problem : (
[01:01] <madeinkobaia> That means that every effetyou will apply after will alter the render.
[01:04] <madeinkobaia> Well, my "sound" and mainly "vision" start to be altered too :D 3 am, time to leave.
[01:04] <DarkEra> same here, still awake
[01:04] <zequence> Ah, just when I thought I had crashed my email server
[01:05] <DarkEra> the design looks nice though madeinkobaia 
[01:06] <madeinkobaia> Thanks darkera, a lot work and hours on it and at least 20 layers 8-) But I learned a lot stuffs.
[01:08] <DarkEra> 20 layers? holy crap, that's a lot. But when you keep yourself going you learn and grow indeed :)
[01:08] <madeinkobaia> There are an amazing amont of filters and settings on Gimp, needs time to learn them all
[01:08] <madeinkobaia> Some of my works have 100 :D
[01:08] <DarkEra> wow
[01:09] <DarkEra> yeah, gimp has a lot of stuff in it
[01:10] <DarkEra> right, time to head to bed. Chat you all later ;)
[01:10] <zequence> DarkEra: GN
[01:10] <DarkEra> night zequence 
[01:11] <madeinkobaia> Me too, Ok, guys see you later (or earlier ?) zequence  : good luck for mail server config : )
[01:11] <zequence> I guess I'll sleep when I die, resurrect from the dead, and someone from The Walking Dead stabs me with a wooden poke through my head
[01:12] <madeinkobaia> lool
[01:12] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Good Night
[01:12] <madeinkobaia> Good night Kaj :)
[09:40] <smartboyhw> zequence: Can you do me a favor, and copy the release notes from the wiki to main site?
[10:02] <smartboyhw_> Hello DarkEra:)
[10:02] <DarkEra> hi there smartboyhw_ :)
[10:07] <DarkEra> spam cleaning: Check. Ubu Stu current checking: Check. Coffee: Check.
[10:07] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: :)
[10:08] <DarkEra> all i need to do now is wake up my brain
[10:40] <zequence> I'm still working on my imapfilter. Wish I understood the underaying stuff better. Wrestling with syntax is not the most fun thing to do in life.
[10:42] <zequence> Right now, I'm not a big fan of lua, but I'm sure that's only because I've been getting too many nil related errors during these last days
[10:42] <zequence> And not because it's a rotten dirty language
[10:46] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Hurray! But can you do me the favor?:P
[10:59] <zequence> smartboyhw_: I'll take care of all the postings. Just give me the link, no problem
[11:00] <smartboyhw_> zequence: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/UbuntuStudio
[11:01] <smartboyhw_> zequence: One thing: Please let me have a look of the release announcement before it's out.;P
[11:07] <zequence> smartboyhw_: The final release announcement is more a job for the project lead. I will talk not only about the release, but about the future. I won't be asking people about their opinion. All though, my job is as always to follow what I've understood to be best for the community
[11:08] <zequence> I mean, I won't ask people about their opinion of the release announcement, that is
[11:08] <smartboyhw_> pl
[11:08] <smartboyhw_> ok
[11:09] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: You did some testing on the current ISO?
[11:09] <zequence> ..I just want to filter my mail with generic tools. How hard can it be?
[11:09] <smartboyhw_> zequence: It depends;P
[11:09] <smartboyhw_> XD
[11:10] <DarkEra> smartboyhw_, no, not yet. I just finished writing it to usb stick
[11:10] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: Alright :)
[11:11]  * smartboyhw_ hates possible respins
[11:11] <smartboyhw_> The Kubuntu-styled new ubiquity for Kubuntu is quite buggy it seems
[11:12] <DarkEra> testing will have to wait til my wife comes back, i'm taking care of the kids at the moment :)
[11:14] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: No worries:)
[11:22] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: speaking of this, can you help us do some upgrade testing?
[11:24]  * DarkEra needs a testing machine
[11:24] <DarkEra> smartboyhw_, from what to what version?
[11:25] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: 12.10 -> 13.04
[11:25] <smartboyhw_> These things don't respin:P (except image upgrading)
[11:25] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: Try doing the Software Updater first 
[11:25] <DarkEra> i only have 12.04 and 13.04 on this machine
[11:26] <smartboyhw_> Uh oh.
[11:26] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: Try using ^*
[11:26] <smartboyhw_> s/^*/VMs/
[11:27] <smartboyhw_> Grrr
[11:27] <DarkEra> time is not on my side today but testing 13.04 could be done though
[11:30] <smartboyhw_> DarkEra: OK
[11:52] <smartboyhw_> zequence: As a Ubuntu Forums user, please support https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1172218
[11:59] <zequence> smartboyhw_: Thanks. I reconfirmed it :)
[12:01]  * smartboyhw_ salutes to zequence for his help
[14:19] <smartboyhw> Hey DarkEra:)
[14:19] <smartboyhw> It turns out we won't have any respins again (except for Kubuntu)
[14:20] <DarkEra> i thought so :)
[14:20] <DarkEra> good afternoon by the way
[14:20] <smartboyhw> zequence: Do you want to do a session in Ubuntu Open Week-R for Ubuntu Studio?
[14:23] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, guess what, i found out i still have a 12.10 32bit iso on one of my external hd
[14:24] <DarkEra> i could wipe the hd on my netbook, install 12.10 and test a upgrade if wanted
[14:27] <smartboyhw> ooh
[14:27] <smartboyhw> Thanks!
[14:28] <DarkEra> i'm busy copying it to the home folder and create a usb stick at the moment
[14:30] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Damn possible respin due to a package that shouldn't exist:O
[14:44] <smartboyhw> In our images at least.
[14:47] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: ^
[14:47]  * smartboyhw emits blood
[14:48] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, ok thanks, i'll wait and zsync later on when the respin is out. For now i'll keep myself busy with testing the upgrade. Had phone and starting to create the usb stick now
[14:49] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: Keep on with the upgrades, they won't be affected:)
[14:50] <DarkEra> ok :)
[14:51] <DarkEra> heya madeinkobaia how are you doing today buddy? :)
[14:51] <madeinkobaia> darkera : I am fine :)
[14:51] <DarkEra> that's great :)
[14:52] <DarkEra> i need some food, bbl
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Hello madeinkobaia:)
[14:55] <madeinkobaia> I put in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/files/head:/ON-AIR/   2 preview banners for G+/FB. That is a special version for the 13.04 release. Any feedback is welcome.
[14:55] <madeinkobaia> zequence : ^
[14:56] <madeinkobaia> Hi smartboyhw, how are you ?
[14:56] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Great. I'll have a look
[14:56] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia: Hurray!
[14:57] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw : Thanks : ) Witch version do you prefer ? 05 or 06 ?
[14:58] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia: Both are OK I think.
[14:59] <smartboyhw> I rather prefer 05 though
[15:00] <zequence> madeinkobaia: I think 06 has a nicer style, but 05 speaks more directly - easier to catch it with the eyes
[15:00]  * smartboyhw has the same comment as zequence
[15:00] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw : Ok, Lets go for the 05 ! 
[15:01] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Probably because of too much complexity around the letters. The splashes might work better around the letters :)
[15:01] <smartboyhw> zequence: 05 then?
[15:01] <zequence> Badly explained, but you know what I mean
[15:02]  * smartboyhw can understand even being an art crap:P
[15:03] <madeinkobaia> zequence : Hello, yeah no problems :)
[15:03] <zequence> madeinkobaia: hi :)
[15:03] <smartboyhw> OK, we are really gonna respin soon.
[15:03] <smartboyhw> Does anyone know what purpose of unity-assets-pool in our image?
[15:04] <madeinkobaia> The release is still for tomorrow ?
[15:04] <smartboyhw> It's the package causing the respin (thx Microsoft for complaining about Skype)
[15:04] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia: It always is.
[15:06] <madeinkobaia> Ok so I will put the definitive version this evening in the branch, like that we can for tomorrow have our banners on line on G+ and FB : )
[15:09] <smartboyhw> ok
[15:13] <madeinkobaia> I be back around 8 pm (gmt +1), that let us a little bit time of reflexion for any changes on the banners. See you all : )
[15:23] <DarkEra> 05 looks nice indeed
[15:25] <DarkEra> right, had some food, installing 12.10 on the netbook now
[16:19] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, software updater doesn't show 13.04 yet so can't upgrade through that
[16:22] <zequence> DarkEra: Start if from the terminal. Two options. I think -d would be one. See update-manager --help
[16:22] <zequence> Since it's still marked as development release, you need to specify you are upgrading to the development release
[16:23] <DarkEra> that's what i thought since 13.04 is not released yet and still needs testing
[16:23] <DarkEra> thanks zequence i'll look into that
[16:25] <DarkEra> yep, got it. Starting upgrade now
[18:02] <DarkEra> yay! upgrade finished
[18:36] <madeinkobaia> darkera : : )
[18:37] <madeinkobaia> The final (?) version of the social network banner for 13.04 available here : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/files/head:/social-networks_googleplus/
[18:41] <madeinkobaia> I also cleaned the Ubuntu Studio logo = before : https://plus.google.com/u/0/102125777892703446963/posts after : https://plus.google.com/u/0/112937756282972852089/posts
[18:41] <madeinkobaia> zequence : ^
[19:56] <DarkEra> zsync time
[20:40] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Ah, great work on the logo :)
[20:40] <zequence> And that Debian banner looks awesome :)
[20:43] <madeinkobaia> zequence : Yep, the banner is one of my wp I made for Debian :)
[20:44] <madeinkobaia> zequence : For the logo I just added some blur, the borders are smooth now : )
[20:46] <zequence> Yes, the borders were ok against white background, for apparent reasons. They needed to be cleaned up :)
[20:46] <zequence> Actually, I've cropped the picture on the G+ site
[20:46] <zequence> ..I think
[20:46] <zequence> :P
[20:46] <zequence> Anyway. It's good we have a nice set of replacements :)
[20:49] <madeinkobaia> zequence : Hope to see the result on line : )
[20:51] <zequence> We have new releases of ISOs out now
[20:51] <zequence> Should finally be the final ones
[20:51] <zequence> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds
[20:51] <zequence> They will need a bit of testing
[20:52] <len-1304> Ya about 2 hours ago.
[20:52] <len-1304>  Just downloaded... but have a dentist app now :P
[20:52] <zequence> len-1304: Always fun :)
[20:53] <len-1304> I will test 32bit later when I get back.
[20:54] <zequence> I'm zynking both ISOs now. It's getting late, but I should be able to pull off some testing
[20:55] <DarkEra> zsync is done so i'm preparing the usb stick
[20:56] <DarkEra> i hope i can do some testing to but have to keep a eye on our oldest
[21:11] <zequence> Either I'm really stupid, or mail filtering is stupid
[21:12] <madeinkobaia> "The truth is often between opposite" (by "Lao Tseu", but I am not sure :D )
[21:17] <zequence> Both could be true too
[21:19] <madeinkobaia> ...and reciprocally.
[21:19] <zequence> I'm realizing I'm dealing with databases, but I'm not doing it hands on, so I take the long way around understanding what I'm doing
[21:22] <madeinkobaia> lol, you're using "regular expressions" for create filters ?
[21:28] <madeinkobaia> Any Led Zeppelin fan's on Ubuntu Studio ?
[21:32] <zequence> I'm using a tool called imapfilter, to filter my IMAP mailbox. The filtering is done in LUA
[21:34] <madeinkobaia> zequence : ok
[21:35] <zequence> I'm emigrating to the mutt email client, from Opera
[21:35] <zequence> Or migrating :)
[21:37] <madeinkobaia> Depends on the place you leave ;)
[23:28] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: You zsynced the new image 20130424;
[23:28] <smartboyhw> ?
[23:34] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, yep
[23:35] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: \o/
[23:35] <DarkEra> just installing it on the third partition on the laptop
[23:36] <DarkEra> almost done
[23:36] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, i also upgraded 12.10 to 13.04 on the netbook
[23:37] <DarkEra> i'm on that right now
[23:37]  * smartboyhw hugs DarkEra
[23:38] <DarkEra> :)
[23:38] <DarkEra> you can see how much i care about the project
[23:40] <DarkEra> i just want to thank you smartboyhw and zequence for being patient and showing me the way, i really appreciate that
[23:41] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: :) I should have helped you do some testing, but holy christ secondary 3 tests took most of my time away:( I have a Chinese History test tmr.
[23:42] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, it's ok and i understand. Your private life and school have priority
[23:43] <smartboyhw> :)
[23:43] <DarkEra> it was a busy day here to with my kids so i couldn't do much anyway
[23:45] <DarkEra> at least i got the netbook install upgraded this evening