| _098v_ | Does anyone know how to install different themes for Xubuntu 12.10? | 00:29 |
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| Furah | hi guys, I've run into a bit of a problem | 02:06 |
| Furah | on the weekend I updated my kernel and now I cannot boot into xubuntu, it just freezes at the blue loading screen with the bar that moves side to side | 02:07 |
| Furah | trying to boot from older kernels gets stuck loading ramdisk | 02:07 |
| Armando2 | Woot testing great so far, no errors encountered | 03:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: For Raring? | 03:39 |
| Armando2 | Correct | 03:39 |
| Armando2 | Daily spin | 03:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | It's in release candidate phase, so pretty much from this pt. forward WYSIWYG | 03:39 |
| Armando2 | not bad, I did see a lot of visuals improve over the weeks | 03:40 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Such as...? You'll need to bring me up to speed, I use Unity and haven't put VBox back in my system yet... | 03:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I've worked with Xubuntu before of course | 03:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | But only LTS releases | 03:45 |
| Armando2 | Xubuntu's login prompt is what comes to mind, it picks up the theme correctly | 03:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What do you mean, "picks it correctly"? I don't get what that means. | 03:46 |
| Armando2 | earlier dailies would have a login panel with white text over a light grey background. Only by clicking on a pull down menu would text be visible on a highlight | 03:47 |
| Armando2 | Then it was fixed before I could report it | 03:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh. (Dailies all right.) | 03:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Usually lightdm-gtk-greeter is fun to try and comprehend in dailies. | 03:48 |
| Armando2 | Yeah, it's been fun though downloading and Vboxing | 03:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | VBox is fun to run other OS's in, especially when you have Windows-specific programs that hate on Wine. | 03:50 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Like Sibelius. | 03:50 |
| Kvasir | Hey can I ask a quick question re-xubuntu? | 03:51 |
| Kvasir | Will it run on a macbook 1,1? :s | 03:51 |
| Armando2 | Mine is just for office, xbox360 and a game like urbanterror get my fps fix | 03:52 |
| Armando2 | It should, they usually spin an iso with an optimized efi loader for apple comps | 03:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You might want to check cdimage.ubuntu.com for an amd64+mac image. | 03:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Nope, don't see any... at least not for the daily builds. | 03:54 |
| Kvasir | Excellent! I'm actually running ubuntu right now, but keen to change to something lighter. It's i386 ^^* | 03:54 |
| Armando2 | The last time I had the ability to play linux on a Mac was a PowerG4 platinum tower with Yellow Dog | 03:54 |
| Armando2 | ran a decent apache server on it | 03:54 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Kvasir: Why do you need lighter? | 03:54 |
| Armando2 | xubuntu is uber light | 03:54 |
| SonikkuAmerica | There are Ubuntu (with Unity) i386 images, you know. | 03:56 |
| Armando2 | I can't wait for it to get lighter once the switch happens from xorg to wayland | 03:56 |
| Kvasir | SonikkuAmerica: Maybe lighter isn't the correct term, I just want a really basic setup. I'd use Arch but that hasn't worked for me so far. | 03:56 |
| Armando2 | Kvasir, perhaps you can bootcamp your system and use the standard desktop version | 03:56 |
| SonikkuAmerica | All switching to Wayland! End of an era... :\ | 03:56 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Kvasir: Have you tried the minimal ISO/ | 03:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ? | 03:57 |
| Armando2 | A minimal base on a mac seems to me a little criminal | 03:57 |
| Kvasir | I've tried the alt cd, not the minimal cd. | 03:58 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: I guess you're supposed to run Unity or KDE on those suckas... I see no Xubuntu or Lubuntu amd64+mac images. | 03:58 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: I hear they might take testers for amd64+mac images of Ubuntu GNOME... | 03:58 |
| Armando2 | can bootcamp help strap a compatible environment for xubuntu? | 03:58 |
| Armando2 | < needs a mac in that case hehe | 03:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: I don't have a Mac, so I can't make guarantees. | 03:59 |
| Armando2 | Kvasir, you can probably accomplish the same effect installing a amd64+mac bootable iso, then bring in the xubuntu meta package | 03:59 |
| Kvasir | I've never done it through Bootcamp, just through custom partitioning + refind. | 03:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You mean rEFIt? | 04:00 |
| Armando2 | bootcamp if I understand correctly, enables bios emulation | 04:00 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: It does. | 04:00 |
| Kvasir | Here's the catch: I don't want bios emulation, I want EFI. Just to you know, make my life harder. | 04:01 |
| Kvasir | SonikkuAmerica: refind is a fork or rEFIt | 04:01 |
| Armando2 | I do feel the same way Kvasir actually, it's too bad apple's EFI implementation is "different" | 04:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Kvasir: Ah. | 04:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Kvasir: Buy a UEFI machine. | 04:02 |
| Armando2 | I would probably opt to do a ubuntu to xubuntu package upgrade | 04:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | That would just be [ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ] | 04:02 |
| Armando2 | correct, it wouldn't have too much other than the xfce4 packages to download, and it's as simple as choosing a different environment at login | 04:03 |
| * Kvasir glomps SonikkuAmerica | 04:03 | |
| SonikkuAmerica | Kvasir: The heck is "glomping"? | 04:03 |
| Kvasir | *cough* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glomping | 04:04 |
| Kvasir | Anyway that's that problem sorted ^^* | 04:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Kvasir: What. Just what. | 04:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | lol | 04:04 |
| Armando2 | follow this forum Kvasir, perhaps the standar amd64 iso will not be a problem for you: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2131033 | 04:05 |
| Armando2 | if you want to avoid the ubuntu bloat, they also suggest doing the lubuntu+mac to xubuntu jump, and you can try out to super lightweight distributions in one! | 04:06 |
| Armando2 | I like this term glomping, I'm gonna glomp my Wife anime style | 04:07 |
| Kvasir | What have I done.. | 04:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: Yeah. Mainly because 30% of LXDE = XFCE | 04:07 |
| Armando2 | super anime surpise hugs for everyone ^ ^ | 04:07 |
| Armando2 | I love LXDE save for a few UI pieces that I found to miss, otherwise, both accomplish < 300MB RAM footprint post login and settling | 04:08 |
| SonikkuAmerica | It runs like a gazelle on my laptop, VBox or frugal. | 04:09 |
| Armando2 | more room for my 8GB setup for VMs, a couple hundred chromium tabs | 04:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | A couple hundred e_e | 04:09 |
| Armando2 | I too might add that XFCE and LXDE are very nice in a VM | 04:09 |
| Kvasir | I didn't realize it was as simple as apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. Thank's for the help~ | 04:10 |
| Armando2 | enjoy Kvasir, glomps | 04:10 |
| * Kvasir falls backwards | 04:11 | |
| Armando2 | I wish I could OSS the heck out of a mac pro laptop | 04:11 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OSS? | 04:12 |
| Armando2 | Open Source Software | 04:13 |
| Armando2 | not to be mistaken with Open Sound System | 04:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Heck! Do it up! | 04:15 |
| Armando2 | I'm happy with my Dell Studio 14, 8GB, i7 Q740 with a half devent Radeon HD 5450 | 04:17 |
| Armando2 | ^decent | 04:18 |
| Armando2 | Born with Win 7, stripped, reinstalled Windows 7, couldn't last more than 1 month, came back to Xubuntu | 04:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Me? Win 98 > XP > Ubuntu 10.04 > Ubuntu 12.04 > 72 million flavor changes > Ubuntu 12.10 > 72 million more flavor changes > Raring. | 04:20 |
| Armando2 | ooh here's my history: | 04:20 |
| aiena | lol | 04:20 |
| aiena | Armando2: lets listen to your history... :) | 04:21 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Did it start with 86-DOS? | 04:21 |
| aiena | I am runnung xubuntu 12.04 precise - is it possible to updat xfce to 4.10 with precise ? | 04:21 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: Check off xubuntu-backports maybe? | 04:22 |
| aiena | how do you do that ? | 04:22 |
| SonikkuAmerica | In Software Sources | 04:22 |
| aiena | if i install it over the current xfce 4.8 will it remove the old one | 04:22 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: Sort of... | 04:23 |
| Armando2 | Dos 5 something, 6.22, Windows 3.0, Win 3.11 for workgroups on Dos 6.22. Win 95, 98 Gold, W2000, Mandrake something version, Redhat 7, Redhat 8, Slackware, Linux From Scratch (yes successfully bootstrapped, and compiled a working user land), Arch, Gentoo | 04:23 |
| aiena | hmm the software centre does not list xfce purely | 04:23 |
| aiena | I am confused | 04:23 |
| Armando2 | install synaptic package manager | 04:23 |
| aiena | its there | 04:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: Run [ software-properties-gtk ] in a terminal, or find "Software Sources" in XFCE System Settings, | 04:24 |
| Armando2 | Even went FreeBSD for a bit until graphics bored me, what else | 04:24 |
| aiena | ok runnung it instead | 04:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: Did you know that FreeBSD was ripped off? | 04:25 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: (Tried FreeBSD, stopped at the $) | 04:26 |
| Armando2 | Ubuntu from 9 something to present, up until unity emerged, jumped to xubuntu. Dated two Mint women, Lubuntu, Xubuntu present | 04:26 |
| Armando2 | how as freebsd ripped off? | 04:26 |
| Armando2 | how was ^ | 04:26 |
| Armando2 | Side line use CentOS when I need to setup a matching dev environment for a web app project | 04:26 |
| aiena | SonikkuAmerica: should i choose the software packaged by cannonical option in software sources ? | 04:27 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: Look under the first tab... there are 4 or 5 check boxes. Check the one labeled "Unsupported updates" | 04:27 |
| Armando2 | aiena, try out repogen.simplylinux.ch . There might be a popular xfce latest ppa available | 04:27 |
| xubuntu592 | how do I install with LVM and xubuntu 12.10, in the drop down for partitioning types there is no pv option... ? | 04:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: Some Buddhist software developer messed with it, slapped on some sort of window manager on it, and sold it on his own hardware for some $900-1.2k per socket. I think his name was Steve. | 04:28 |
| Armando2 | oh yes, lot's a BSD stuff, hardly any NeXT remain | 04:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (Not trying to be religionist here, just stating facts) | 04:28 |
| aiena | SonikkuAmerica: Unsupported updates is enabled | 04:29 |
| aiena | SonikkuAmerica: should I check pre release | 04:29 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: Now, [ sudo apt-get update ] or run Update Manager. | 04:29 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: I believe it's called OS X. | 04:29 |
| SonikkuAmerica | :) | 04:29 |
| Armando2 | yeah, I don't like OSX much from a visual or architectural standpoint | 04:29 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah, but the whole OS X project was a ripoff of FreeBSD. | 04:30 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I honestly think NeXT could've gone farther | 04:30 |
| Armando2 | I could tell even by just using the ls command, same limiting options, no ls -FA avail | 04:30 |
| Armando2 | you could say that was almost a show stopper for me | 04:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Except the show actually stopped... and there was no appluase. | 04:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | *applause. | 04:31 |
| Armando2 | process creation and forking is much more slower in OS X innards for example | 04:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: I mean, if you've ever jailbroken an iOS device... it's Debian. | 04:32 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: Ripped into 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 tiny little pieces. | 04:32 |
| Armando2 | really? that wouldn't shock me, given how portable debian is, honestly ,I would have guessed gentoo, but debian has standardized cross compiling | 04:32 |
| aiena | so they alter linux and sell it for so much - cheats | 04:33 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: Check the Cydia Store... has option to add APT repos and everything. | 04:33 |
| Armando2 | I did hear about installing a deb-based user land indeed | 04:33 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: Well, not per se... iOS = OS X stripped down a bit | 04:33 |
| Armando2 | And I would, if I had an iphone of some sort | 04:33 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Armando2: Don't expect it to work with actual Debian/Ubuntu packages though. | 04:34 |
| Armando2 | no, I imagine it's a sort of ports system, that injects source patches to successfully compile on it | 04:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You would be right. | 04:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | There's a team working on an open-source iOS device bootloader too. Get ready for the real Android-on-iOS experience. | 04:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Not an official one, mind you. | 04:35 |
| Armando2 | I've heard rumors as well | 04:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I've seen it in action | 04:36 |
| Armando2 | the ABI is a near cousin to the android world, just gotta get into every nook and cranny of undocumented registers and memory regions with all the gadets hooked in | 04:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I'd talk more, but I must tune my heart and soul to the pillow on my bed. :) lol Or saw logs. | 04:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Either one works for me. 'Night! | 04:37 |
| Armando2 | likewise, my Wife commands me soon too, and to jog tomorrow morn, see you round sonikku | 04:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Such a commanding wife. O_o lol Later! | 04:37 |
| Armando2 | She Owns | 04:38 |
| Armando2 | and I love it... | 04:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | :) | 04:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ahh... love and marriage... I'm not married yet. | 04:38 |
| aiena | exit | 05:00 |
| linux_unix-10 | hello! | 05:25 |
| Kvasir | Hello~ | 05:26 |
| === Kvasir is now known as Suttung | ||
| linux_unix-10 | Why is it that when I install a new program, it doesn't appear at the Applications Menu? | 05:28 |
| koegs | linux_unix-10: what did you install and where did you search for it? | 05:32 |
| linux_unix-10 | I installed VLC and I searched for it in all the categories in the Application Menu. | 05:33 |
| koegs | linux_unix-10: it is not in Multimedia and is called "VLC Media Player"? how did you install it? | 05:36 |
| linux_unix-10 | uisng ubuntu software center and videolan.org | 05:36 |
| linux_unix-10 | sorry, i meant "using" | 05:36 |
| koegs | why videolan.org? | 05:37 |
| koegs | ah, ok, the button just opens the software center | 05:38 |
| linux_unix-10 | software center did not work initially, so i went to the website and clicked on the download button for ubuntu | 05:38 |
| koegs | and if you press ALT+F2 and then enter vlc, does it start? | 05:39 |
| linux_unix-10 | after that, firefox asked me to open the software center, allowed it | 05:39 |
| linux_unix-10 | then the program was install thru the software center via videolan.org | 05:39 |
| linux_unix-10 | i just thought of this: restarting xfce. But i don't know if it will work nor how to do it. | 05:41 |
| koegs | normally it is not required | 05:44 |
| koegs | can you start vlc with ALT+F2? | 05:44 |
| linux_unix-10 | yes, and it also appears in application finder, but not directly in the applications menu. | 05:45 |
| linux_unix-10 | how to restart xfce? | 05:49 |
| aiena | koegs: is gimps clipboard different from the defualt xubuntu one ? | 06:23 |
| aiena | a print screen image (when copy to clipboard option is chosen) seems to copy the image into mypaintbut not into gimp | 06:24 |
| aiena | *mypaint but | 06:24 |
| linux_unix-10 | how to restart xfce? | 06:51 |
| Unit193 | Which part? | 06:54 |
| linux_unix-10 | all of it | 06:58 |
| Unit193 | Log out and back in. | 06:58 |
| heoyea | pull plug | 07:00 |
| xubuntu763 | Hi | 08:54 |
| elfy | hello | 08:54 |
| xubuntu763 | If I install today the ISO from 20130423.1 (yesterday) and the updates , would like to have the final version right? | 08:56 |
| elfy | yep | 08:57 |
| xubuntu763 | okay " | 08:57 |
| xubuntu763 | =) thanks elfy | 08:58 |
| elfy | welcome | 08:58 |
| xubuntu763 | =) | 08:58 |
| aiena | xfce 4.10 rocks !! :) | 09:01 |
| Maccer | How do you map a shell script in the Application Shortcuts from Keyboard in XFCE? sh ~/script.sh "args" doesn't work. | 09:05 |
| aiena | I tried that it didnt work | 09:06 |
| aiena | same question here ! | 09:07 |
| aiena | Maccer: maybe you can try using && to rn the multiple commands directly rather than use a script | 09:07 |
| aiena | *run | 09:07 |
| aiena | not tested it though | 09:08 |
| TheSheep | my guess is that ~ doesn't work, try a full path | 09:09 |
| TheSheep | also, make sure that the file is set to executable | 09:09 |
| === hobgoblin is now known as elfy | ||
| koegs | Maccer, aiena, TheSheep: tested it, ~ does not work but /home/youruser/script.sh does work | 09:21 |
| aiena | thanks | 09:21 |
| Maccer | koegs: Yeah, I can confirm now. It seems like I needed a sleep delay. This script just simply checks for a running process and then proceeds to simulate key presses. XFCE could be grabbing the keyboard. | 09:22 |
| aiena | koegs: is there a way to disable docking in xfce 4.10 ? | 09:22 |
| aiena | i LOVE XFCE 4.10 but I dont like the docking bit | 09:23 |
| aiena | *I love | 09:23 |
| koegs | aiena: tiling or docking? | 09:23 |
| aiena | tiling i think | 09:23 |
| Maccer | You mean the little dock by default in xubuntu? | 09:23 |
| aiena | no | 09:23 |
| Maccer | Oh. I'm sure you could disable the tiling in the window manager preferences somewhere | 09:24 |
| aiena | 4.10 does not come by default with 12.04 lts i just installed it | 09:24 |
| aiena | when you place the window on the top it becomes half and snaps | 09:24 |
| TheSheep | aiena: what do you mean by docking? | 09:24 |
| koegs | yeah, window manager preferences, "Automatically tile widnows when moving towards screen edge" | 09:24 |
| TheSheep | aiena: ah, yes, you can disable it in window manager tweaks | 09:24 |
| aiena | TheSheep: I am new to linux xubuntu is my first distro in windows it is normally docking | 09:25 |
| aiena | koegs: THanks a lot | 09:25 |
| TheSheep | in windowa manager tweaks, in the 'accessibility' tab | 09:26 |
| TheSheep | aiena: I just don't know the terminology either in windows or linux | 09:26 |
| aiena | I dont know the terminology in WIndows | 09:26 |
| aiena | bah linux | 09:26 |
| TheSheep | anyways, that's it :) | 09:26 |
| aiena | WIndows is like making juice for me | 09:27 |
| aiena | anyways love linux now that I have it :) | 09:27 |
| TheSheep | I'm horribly rusty with windows, the last one I had was 98 | 09:27 |
| aiena | only thing is that I cant get my graphic tablet to work inspite of installing wizardpen | 09:27 |
| TheSheep | aiena: is it a wacom? | 09:27 |
| aiena | TheSheep: ouch !! I loved 98 though it was the most stable windows | 09:27 |
| aiena | TheSheep: no that is the issue | 09:28 |
| aiena | wacom has drivers | 09:28 |
| aiena | for linux so no worries | 09:28 |
| aiena | maybe I'll just buy a wacom | 09:28 |
| aiena | TheSheep: do you know how to remove wizarpen | 09:28 |
| aiena | I had to compie the source | 09:28 |
| aiena | and add the ppa | 09:28 |
| aiena | it does not show up in synaptics | 09:29 |
| aiena | *compile | 09:29 |
| aiena | i mean add the ppa then compile the source :P | 09:29 |
| TheSheep | aiena: do you have a link to the howto that you followed? | 09:31 |
| aiena | one sec | 09:31 |
| aiena | TheSheep: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_with_WizardPen | 09:33 |
| aiena | thats the source | 09:33 |
| TheSheep | aiena: 'make install' just copies the files all over your system, without actually tracking them in any way, or making a package -- so to uninstall it you just have to delete all those file manually | 09:34 |
| TheSheep | aiena: there is a list of files under Installed files | 09:35 |
| aiena | ok so just delete them and it is clean | 09:35 |
| aiena | is it safe to do that | 09:35 |
| TheSheep | yeah, unless they forgot to list something | 09:35 |
| aiena | or do i have to remove some other config files | 09:35 |
| aiena | ok | 09:36 |
| TheSheep | as for the ppa, there is http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed | 09:37 |
| koegs | next time, you can use checkinstall instead of "make install" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall | 09:37 |
| TheSheep | yeah, checkinstall will create a package while installing, so that it can be uninstalled with the package manager | 09:37 |
| aiena | thank you so much for the tip | 09:38 |
| aiena | as a noob i made that mistake :P | 09:38 |
| aiena | anyways I'll get better as I learn more shell commands :) | 09:39 |
| aiena | I know dos well | 09:39 |
| TheSheep | most howtos don't care about uninstalling, so they are written like that :( | 09:39 |
| aiena | so some of that knowledge transaltes here | 09:39 |
| aiena | TheSheep: yep thats crap | 09:39 |
| aiena | TheSheep: in linux there is no actual installing like in windows | 09:39 |
| aiena | does linux have a registry ? | 09:40 |
| TheSheep | aiena: actually the MSI are modelled after the linux packages, more or less | 09:41 |
| aiena | I think so | 09:41 |
| aiena | too | 09:41 |
| aiena | they are also scripts | 09:41 |
| TheSheep | aiena: linux has several different systems that are similar to registry in some ways | 09:41 |
| aiena | in OS's lots is borrowed lots is new | 09:41 |
| TheSheep | for example, the xfce4 configuration is kept in something like a registry | 09:42 |
| aiena | ok | 09:42 |
| TheSheep | you can run xfce4-settings-editor to browse that | 09:42 |
| aiena | there is no dynamic linking in linux right | 09:43 |
| koegs | what? | 09:45 |
| aiena | forget about it | 09:45 |
| aiena | I guess not | 09:46 |
| amar | hi.. | 09:46 |
| koegs | aiena: i certainly guess "yes", but i am not sure what you mean :D | 09:46 |
| amar | hello i want to take some help with you | 09:46 |
| amar | i want to uninstall ubuntu my dell laptop | 09:47 |
| amar | can you help me how we can uninstall it?? | 09:47 |
| aiena | is it a duakl boot | 09:47 |
| aiena | *dual | 09:47 |
| aiena | windows + linux | 09:48 |
| aiena | or pure ubuntu | 09:48 |
| amar | it is windows + linux | 09:48 |
| amar | see dell 2420 | 09:49 |
| amar | i bought new laptop today and linux is alredy install in it.. | 09:49 |
| aiena | ok you can use parted magic | 09:49 |
| aiena | it is actually gparted but only in a bootable form | 09:49 |
| aiena | and you can repartition the disk | 09:50 |
| aiena | and remove the partition and ubuntu | 09:50 |
| elfy | amar: do you intend for it to only have windows on it? | 09:51 |
| amar | yes | 09:51 |
| aiena | so you wish to remove the partition too | 09:51 |
| aiena | the ext4 one | 09:51 |
| aiena | and reclaim the space | 09:51 |
| amar | yes i want to remove all the partition and create new one.. | 09:52 |
| amar | with the fresh window os.. | 09:52 |
| elfy | if you let ubuntu install normally then you will need a windows disk of some sort to do the boot - or you'll end up with no boot | 09:52 |
| elfy | but tbh you should be able to remove the partition from within windows - it'll be the one it doesn't recognise probably | 09:52 |
| aiena | amar: I think as a windows user myself it would be better to use diskpart | 09:53 |
| aiena | are you familiar with the dos cmmand line ? | 09:53 |
| aiena | *command | 09:53 |
| amar | no.. | 09:53 |
| amar | plz give me the commnad name.. | 09:54 |
| aiena | amar can you boot into windows | 09:54 |
| aiena | first and come back on irc | 09:54 |
| aiena | then I can instruct you further | 09:54 |
| amar | irc?? | 09:54 |
| aiena | on #ubuntu | 09:54 |
| amar | ok.. | 09:54 |
| aiena | internet relay chat | 09:54 |
| aiena | what you are using now :) | 09:54 |
| amar | currently i m using webchat.. | 09:55 |
| aiena | ok | 09:55 |
| aiena | webchat is an irc client too | 09:55 |
| aiena | only web based :) | 09:55 |
| elfy | amar: webchat is connecting to an irc channel | 09:55 |
| amar | i m in linux dashboard | 09:55 |
| aiena | amar one sec | 09:55 |
| aiena | before you go any further | 09:56 |
| aiena | do you have a full backup of your important data | 09:56 |
| elfy | not sure why you've come to the xubuntu support channel though ;) | 09:56 |
| amar | yes... | 09:56 |
| aiena | because we have to prepare for any emergencies | 09:56 |
| aiena | OK good | 09:56 |
| amar | i have no data in my laptop.. | 09:56 |
| aiena | 2) is ubuntu unstalled on your windows partition | 09:56 |
| amar | before 2 hour i have purchaged. | 09:56 |
| amar | dds | 09:56 |
| aiena | or D drive ? | 09:56 |
| amar | so i dnt have any data in my laptop | 09:57 |
| aiena | ok doesnt make sense | 09:57 |
| aiena | anyways | 09:57 |
| aiena | ok boot into windows and come back on webchat | 09:57 |
| aiena | then will give you support | 09:57 |
| aiena | elfy removing xubuntu is also support right ??? | 09:58 |
| amar | i have boot the windows in my system.. | 09:58 |
| amar | yes.. | 09:58 |
| aiena | :) | 09:58 |
| aiena | which version are you using xp/ wIN 7 | 09:59 |
| aiena | WIndows 7 ? | 09:59 |
| amar | win 7 | 09:59 |
| koegs | guys, this is the Xubuntu Support Channel, could you please take it to a query or a windows channel? thx! | 09:59 |
| aiena | amar I have to go for lunch !! WIll be back in a 30 minutes !! | 10:00 |
| amar | hey i want to uninstall linux wd my system and install win 7... | 10:00 |
| aiena | will you wait | 10:00 |
| amar | wht is this?? | 10:00 |
| koegs | amar: just install windows 7 and during the setup delete all the old partitions, then you are done | 10:00 |
| aiena | koegs he has a dula boot | 10:01 |
| aiena | sio he will need diskpart | 10:01 |
| koegs | does not matter | 10:01 |
| amar | shut up yar.. | 10:01 |
| amar | fuck up guys..u cant help | 10:01 |
| koegs | if he wants to do a fresh and new installation of win7, he can delete the linux partitions during the setup | 10:01 |
| koegs | amar: please watch your language | 10:01 |
| aiena | koegs he does not want a fresh installation | 10:01 |
| koegs | aiena: [12:00:16] < amar> hey i want to uninstall linux wd my system and install win 7... | 10:02 |
| elfy | aiena: regardless of that it's not xubuntu | 10:02 |
| aiena | he wants to remove linux + the ext4 partition and keep windows | 10:02 |
| aiena | I am guessing he is using windows and wants to keep the rest | 10:02 |
| amar | yes.. | 10:03 |
| koegs | then it is all up to windows, not related to ubuntu nor xubuntu, please use a query | 10:03 |
| aiena | koegs: maybe this should be taken to private chat !! | 10:04 |
| aiena | amar | 10:04 |
| aiena | I dont know why priv chat isnt working | 10:05 |
| elfy | has left | 10:05 |
| aiena | no wonder | 10:05 |
| aiena | anyways didnt like his langiage | 10:05 |
| aiena | if that guy doesnt have patience | 10:05 |
| aiena | and cant be polite it sucks the life out of wanting to help someone (: | 10:05 |
| aiena | *langiage | 10:06 |
| aiena | *language | 10:06 |
| koegs | could have been so easy :D http://askubuntu.com/questions/151253/removing-grub-from-windows-system-after-uninstalling-from-withing-windows | 10:06 |
| aiena | he has t use delete partition option in diskpart | 10:06 |
| koegs | but thats all for offtopic :) | 10:06 |
| aiena | koegs: yes that is easy but that wont remove the ext4 partition | 10:07 |
| aiena | the ext4 partiton is invisible to windows | 10:07 |
| aiena | this would mean he cant reclaim the linux partition space | 10:08 |
| elfy | please take this to offtopic | 10:08 |
| aiena | so he'd have to use diskpart at the dos shell | 10:08 |
| aiena | elfy: topic over | 10:08 |
| aiena | brb | 10:08 |
| meerkat | hello. I'm looking for some torrents to seed for 13.04. Which xubuntu versions eat the most traffic? | 12:38 |
| Arpad2 | i would like to ask how to make partitions on a 750gb hdd or should I install the whole as one partition? | 12:39 |
| elfy | Arpad2: depends what you mean - I'd not install to a 750Gb drive and have it as / personally | 12:40 |
| cfhowlett | Arpad2, ubuntu root system probably uses about 10 gigs max. set a /swap of perhaps your RAM x 2, and then set a /home of whatever you wish for your data and user files | 12:40 |
| elfy | meerkat: I'm not sure | 12:40 |
| Arpad2 | ram is 8gb, so 16 gb will be suffice? | 12:42 |
| elfy | again it depends what you want to do - but personally with 4Gb of ram here I've used kb's of my swap | 12:43 |
| Arpad2 | I guess the rest should be used for the documents | 12:43 |
| cfhowlett | Arpad2, the 2 X RAM formula is a "rule of thumb" bit of questionable wisdom. With 8gigs of RAM you should have no problems with suspend/resume ... | 12:44 |
| Arpad2 | cfhowlett: ok , I will set it for 16 gb for xubuntu 12.04 | 12:46 |
| Arpad2 | i guess it won't be a problem ti upgrade | 12:46 |
| meerkat | 10 gb for / seems a bit small. Additional packages would increase the size needed, right? | 12:46 |
| elfy | my root is 15 - used 6.8 | 12:47 |
| cfhowlett | meerkat, I run ubuntustudio with restricted extras and medibuntu. my / is 6.8 | 12:47 |
| cfhowlett | meerkat, 6.6 out of 16 gigs available | 12:48 |
| Arpad2 | ok, thank you all for help :) | 12:48 |
| cfhowlett | Arpad2, best of luck | 12:49 |
| elfy | cfhowlett: almost a snap there :) | 12:49 |
| elfy | Arpad2: have fun | 12:49 |
| Arpad2 | thx:) | 12:49 |
| meerkat | cfhowlett, you are right. I am using only 8.9 myself. I guess I went overboard with 45GiB for the root partition. :/ | 12:50 |
| cfhowlett | meerkat, I did fill the root once ,but that was cuz I didn't clean out the cache. apt-get clean && apt-get autoremove fixed that right up | 12:51 |
| elfy | meerkat: well you never know - if you installed a whole bunch of games or something you might fill it up | 12:51 |
| cfhowlett | elfy, actually that's possible. My windows steam shows about 60 gigs worth of portal at the moment, so ... | 12:52 |
| meerkat | too much space is better than not enough, for sure. Good thing Steam games are put in /home/ | 12:52 |
| elfy | I don't use a seperate home :) | 12:53 |
| Arpad2 | so for Steam games I will need a bigger partition? | 12:54 |
| elfy | I possibly would if I wasn't having a seperate /home - as I said ealrier it all depends | 12:55 |
| elfy | If I had all my data in home I'd be needing 600Gb | 12:56 |
| meerkat | Arpad2, if you have 3 partitions. swap, /, and /home/ Then putting 4-8 GB for swap and 15 for / you will have plenty of space in /home/ for steam games. | 12:56 |
| cfhowlett | meerkat, sadly, I never got steam to actually run on 12.04 | 12:57 |
| Arpad2 | yes, but first I would upgrade to 12.10 | 12:58 |
| meerkat | my steam install is only 30 GB. That includes all source games released for linux, all goldsource, plus a bunch of indie games. | 12:58 |
| Arpad2 | i guess its not an issue | 12:58 |
| Arpad2 | but my live cd is xubuntu 12.04 | 13:00 |
| GridCube | Arpad2, you can upgrade, its not the fastest way to install 12.10 but its a start, and tomorrow tehre would be 13.04 :3 | 13:10 |
| GridCube | you could download 13.04 and go with that directly | 13:10 |
| Arpad2 | I only have a phone, live 12.04 cd, laptop with no os, and usb flash drive | 13:12 |
| GridCube | oh then use the livecd to download the iso and use unetbootin to make a booteable flash drive :3 | 13:16 |
| Arpad2 | ok, I will try it | 13:19 |
| dBLOOD | Hi people | 13:19 |
| cfhowlett | dBLOOD, greetings | 13:20 |
| dBLOOD | anyone knows a console command to reconnect eth0? | 13:20 |
| dBLOOD | suppose the @&# connection gets terminated for whatever @&# reason... | 13:20 |
| dBLOOD | where #&@ does not equal #&@ | 13:21 |
| TheSheep | dBLOOD: what kind of connection? | 13:21 |
| dBLOOD | anyway, is there some short "net reconnect eth0" or whatever console command? | 13:21 |
| dBLOOD | it's pppoe | 13:21 |
| dBLOOD | on eth0 | 13:21 |
| TheSheep | I would wager that the command starts with ppp then... | 13:22 |
| dBLOOD | I'm searching for something similar like pulling out, than reconnect the cable | 13:22 |
| TheSheep | but I have no idea about pppoe | 13:22 |
| TheSheep | you might want to try to search the wiki or forums | 13:22 |
| dBLOOD | I thought it should have something to do with eth0 | 13:22 |
| dBLOOD | I'm trying, but only that @&# wireless is everywhere | 13:23 |
| dBLOOD | there is something like "sudo dhclient* eth0" | 13:24 |
| TheSheep | !pppoe | 13:24 |
| ubottu | Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE | 13:24 |
| dBLOOD | yeah, but I already have one set up | 13:24 |
| TheSheep | there is a part titled "Manual connection control" | 13:24 |
| dBLOOD | in the network manager, I even can see and change it's setztings, like login pwd and stuff | 13:25 |
| dBLOOD | thx TheSheep this is it | 13:25 |
| dBLOOD | Hi people! | 13:28 |
| dBLOOD | Just as I thought, it's NOT a pppd process | 13:28 |
| GridCube | dBLOOD, pppoeconf | 13:29 |
| GridCube | P: | 13:29 |
| dBLOOD | ? | 13:29 |
| dBLOOD | wait, checking | 13:29 |
| GridCube | dBLOOD, also man nmcli | 13:29 |
| GridCube | nmcli lets you disconnect and reconnect networkd adapters | 13:30 |
| GridCube | also choose wifi networks and whatnot | 13:30 |
| dBLOOD | pppoeconf was starting to set up a new connection | 13:31 |
| dBLOOD | never mind | 13:32 |
| meerkat | does xubuntu only have 2 versions? 32 bit and 64 desktops? | 14:32 |
| koegs | yes | 14:33 |
| baizon | meerkat: yes | 14:35 |
| * genii-around ponders the lack of ARM | 14:35 | |
| WeNDoR | meerkat: what other options are there ? | 14:40 |
| meerkat | WeNDoR, i am not sure. That is why I asked. | 14:41 |
| meerkat | ubuntu and kubuntu seem to have 2 mac releases | 14:41 |
| WeNDoR | you can install xubuntu om mac too | 14:42 |
| meerkat | WeNDoR, is there an iso for that? | 14:42 |
| WeNDoR | the normal iso, i guess | 14:42 |
| WeNDoR | just boot it up and install | 14:42 |
| WeNDoR | http://www.maclife.com/article/howtos/install_linux_your_mac | 14:42 |
| meerkat | well, all right then. WeNDoR I am compiling a list of what to seed once 13.04 goes live. | 14:42 |
| WeNDoR | just choose xubuntu as your distribution | 14:43 |
| WeNDoR | should not be too hard ... | 14:43 |
| xubuntu880 | hi all | 14:50 |
| WeNDoR | hi | 14:50 |
| xubuntu880 | some one can help me? | 14:50 |
| WeNDoR | depends on what your problem is | 14:50 |
| xubuntu880 | i cant install flash plugin | 14:50 |
| WeNDoR | ask | 14:50 |
| WeNDoR | ok | 14:50 |
| WeNDoR | install icedtea | 14:51 |
| WeNDoR | or something like that | 14:51 |
| xubuntu880 | im a noob of ubuntu | 14:51 |
| WeNDoR | just run | 14:51 |
| WeNDoR | sudo apt-get install icedtea-plugin | 14:51 |
| xubuntu880 | ok im installing | 14:53 |
| xubuntu880 | thank | 14:53 |
| xubuntu880 | a lot | 14:53 |
| xubuntu880 | another think... | 14:53 |
| xubuntu880 | :p | 14:53 |
| WeNDoR | thank me if it works | 14:53 |
| WeNDoR | oh wait | 14:53 |
| WeNDoR | don't install that lol | 14:53 |
| WeNDoR | that's for java, not flash | 14:53 |
| WeNDoR | my bad | 14:53 |
| xubuntu880 | :) | 14:54 |
| WeNDoR | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer gsfonts-x11 | 14:54 |
| WeNDoR | that should be for flash | 14:54 |
| WeNDoR | i hope | 14:54 |
| xubuntu880 | ok im retryng | 14:55 |
| xubuntu880 | 4 my other think..im using xubuntu from cd and i cant put it permanentely | 14:56 |
| xubuntu880 | on pc | 14:56 |
| xubuntu880 | it gives me an error | 14:56 |
| WeNDoR | what error ? | 14:56 |
| xubuntu880 | it invite me to retry to install it | 14:56 |
| xubuntu880 | but nothink | 14:56 |
| WeNDoR | i can't help you with the provided information | 14:57 |
| WeNDoR | provide an install log or something | 14:57 |
| xubuntu880 | im a noob :) | 14:57 |
| xubuntu880 | but i will try | 14:57 |
| xubuntu880 | i want learn more | 14:57 |
| WeNDoR | good luck and have fun | 14:58 |
| xubuntu880 | but can i ask to u somethink if iv a doubt?? | 15:00 |
| elfy | there are plenty of people in here xubuntu880 - just need to ask and whoever see's and can answer will :) | 15:02 |
| xubuntu880 | so gently | 15:03 |
| jimalo | excuse me here i am again | 15:08 |
| jimalo | the installation was successful | 15:08 |
| jimalo | but i cant see flash videos | 15:09 |
| TheSheep | !flash | 15:11 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 15:11 |
| lalondong | Guys | 16:29 |
| lalondong | how to setup keyboard shortcut in xubuntu? | 16:30 |
| lalondong | i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but using XFCE desktop environment cause Unity makes my computer slow | 16:30 |
| GridCube | lalondong, what kind of shortcuts? | 16:33 |
| GridCube | mediakeys usually depend on the media player, they have usually a setting you can enable to recognize them | 16:34 |
| lalondong | like in Ubuntu to access terminal faster, i just need to use Ctrl + Alt + T shortcut.. | 16:34 |
| GridCube | lalondong, press the windows key ant t | 16:34 |
| lalondong | ahh, thanks it's working.; | 16:34 |
| lalondong | sorry, i'm new to this stuff..haha | 16:35 |
| GridCube | thats defined at >settings >keyboard >shortcuts | 16:35 |
| GridCube | you have a preset, of meta-t, meta-e and meta-f | 16:35 |
| GridCube | alt-f5 and alt-f6 are also set up | 16:36 |
| GridCube | and alt-f9 and alt-10 | 16:36 |
| GridCube | alt-left-click-drag'n'drop will drag any window, regardless or where you click, and alt-left-clic-drag'n'drop will resize any window regardles of where you click | 16:38 |
| koegs | second one is right-click, GridCube ;-) | 16:39 |
| GridCube | P: correct | 16:39 |
| lalondong | cool | 16:40 |
| Arpad2 | win8 van a laptopon, hogyan szabaduljak meg tole köszönöm!? | 16:40 |
| GridCube | alt-scroll-wheel at the window name bar will make it transparen | 16:40 |
| GridCube | thats some nordic language... correct? | 16:40 |
| Arpad2 | HUn | 16:41 |
| Arpad2 | distant relative to Finish :) | 16:42 |
| Arpad2 | sorry it wasn't meant here | 16:42 |
| Arpad2 | but I have a problem | 16:42 |
| Arpad2 | win8 is installed on the laptop, and I don't know how to get rid of it and how to install the xubuntu | 16:43 |
| GridCube | !uefi | 16:43 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 16:43 |
| GridCube | Arpad2, ^^ | 16:43 |
| Arpad2 | ok, I'll read it, thx | 16:45 |
| foobar55 | hi all - someone know about ?.gvfs problems with 12.04 | 16:51 |
| foobar55 | i try to connet two laptops but fail with gigolo | 16:51 |
| koegs | foobar55: how do you try to connect with the other laptop? which protocol? | 17:02 |
| kRush | is there going to be a beta 3? with the installer snafu I didn't get to test anything | 17:56 |
| baizon | kRush: release is tomorrow | 17:57 |
| baizon | kRush: i mean the final release | 17:57 |
| kRush | oh | 17:57 |
| Pici | I think thats a 'no', then. | 17:57 |
| kRush | yeah, that much I figured | 17:57 |
| fallore | hi everyone. i'm trying to put the xubuntu install iso on a bootable USB drive and i'm not sure which filesystem to select. can anyone help me out? | 19:19 |
| well_laid_lawn | fallore: I think ext4 should be fine | 19:21 |
| well_laid_lawn | !install | 19:21 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 19:21 |
| well_laid_lawn | might be a clue in those links | 19:21 |
| Myrtti | at what point does it even ask that? I don't think it does | 19:21 |
| well_laid_lawn | it should ask at formatting the partition | 19:22 |
| meerkat | fallore, file system on the USB drive? | 19:29 |
| schreber | Is there a change log for what we're likely to see in xubuntu 13.04 ? | 20:18 |
| elfy | schreber: will be much as it was at beta - http://xubuntu.org/news/raring-beta1/ | 20:19 |
| schreber | did they fix the gvfs (?) issue with thunar and the disappearing/re-appearing issue with network and/or trash? | 20:21 |
| elfy | no idea tbh - I've been missing for most of the cycle | 20:21 |
| elfy | but I've not noticed anything untoward with trash in thunar | 20:22 |
| schreber | well I've noticed the issue randomly honestly but it's a tad annoying since the issue wasn't present in xfce 4.8/debian variant | 20:23 |
| elfy | I would have noticed trash - I might have been missing but I've been using 13.04 constantly for 3 months or so | 20:24 |
| schreber | probably fixed if you've not noticed it in that time frame | 20:24 |
| elfy | k - best place to look would be bugs if you knew that there was one reported | 20:25 |
| schreber | was never too confident in running an alpha/beta on a main desktop | 20:25 |
| elfy | I always have the previous available :) | 20:25 |
| schreber | it was noted on the launchpad site, but not sure how active that is compared to other bug sites/trackers. | 20:25 |
| schreber | thank you any way. | 20:25 |
| elfy | welcome | 20:25 |
| schreber | have you noticed any improvements over 12.10 > 13.04 ? snappier, less resources (not like it's was bloated), general overall opinion of the new version | 20:28 |
| elfy | stable and smooth here | 20:28 |
| elfy | I can't comment on snappier as I upgraded hardware recently | 20:29 |
| schreber | sdd or standard hdd ? | 20:29 |
| elfy | standard | 20:29 |
| schreber | well that's good to hear. | 20:29 |
| elfy | I use nouveau ofr graphics - not had any issues with that | 20:30 |
| schreber | well i have a system using the generic intel video driver and another with an ati/amd card (which I suppose will be installable with the current ati/amd driver available on their website). | 20:31 |
| schreber | ahh, did you notice any issue with tumblerd (I think it's a bluetooth application/notifier)? | 20:31 |
| moetunes | tumblerd makes thumbnails | 20:32 |
| schreber | well drats, that makes no sense to me then | 20:32 |
| elfy | I'm much too old fashioned to have anything to do with bluetooth :) | 20:32 |
| schreber | as am I, but I noticed it installs something regardless of hardware (I've noticed the bluetooth icon on the taskbar) | 20:34 |
| elfy | I stop all that :) | 20:34 |
| schreber | moetunes: thanks for the information by the way | 20:35 |
| schreber | elfy, did you experience any issues once a release was finalized (doing something like apt-get upgrade to a alpha/beta release)? | 20:41 |
| elfy | no - but then it's been upgraded more or less constantly since I last installed it | 20:42 |
| Pinky | hi all looking for help updating virtualbox ... . . .. ? anyone | 22:17 |
| bazhang | updating how? | 22:17 |
| Pinky | i Keep getting errors ... | 22:18 |
| Pinky | im running u 12.10 have vbox 4.1.18 installed i would like to upgrade to 4.2.12 | 22:19 |
| Pinky | i download the new ver.. tried to install with package installer says . . Error breaks existing package virtualbox that conflict.. | 22:20 |
| bazhang | dl'd the new version from where? | 22:21 |
| Pinky | offical web site virtualbox.org | 22:21 |
| bazhang | !find virtualbox | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Found: virtualbox-guest-additions, virtualbox-guest-additions-iso, virtualbox, virtualbox-dbg, virtualbox-dkms, virtualbox-fuse, virtualbox-guest-dkms, virtualbox-guest-source, virtualbox-guest-utils, virtualbox-guest-x11 (and 12 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=virtualbox&searchon=names&suite=quantal§ion=all | 22:22 |
| Pinky | under linux page i tried everyting on that page except uninstalling my current ver.. | 22:22 |
| bazhang | so your first version was from within ubuntu | 22:23 |
| Pinky | sorry im new to linux .. so plz be patient | 22:23 |
| bazhang | !info virtualbox-ose | 22:23 |
| ubottu | virtualbox-ose (source: virtualbox): transitional package for virtualbox. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 21 kB, installed size 118 kB | 22:23 |
| Pinky | 1st yes then 2nd i installed can't remember how | 22:23 |
| Pinky | this will be the 3rd version | 22:23 |
| bazhang | you just said from the virtualbox site | 22:24 |
| Pinky | just a sec will give u url | 22:24 |
| Pinky | https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads got it from there | 22:24 |
| Pinky | using the 12.10 link amd64 | 22:25 |
| Pinky | i tried yum install virtualbox-4.2 says can't find it | 22:25 |
| bazhang | yum? | 22:25 |
| bazhang | are you on fedora? | 22:26 |
| Pinky | that is a good question how do i know | 22:26 |
| Pinky | remember i'm new to linux/ fedora/ ubuntu | 22:28 |
| lderan | if you type this into a terminal window and press enter it should tell you "cat /proc/version" | 22:28 |
| bazhang | can you get to a terminal? | 22:28 |
| Pinky | says /proc/version command not found had to use sudo | 22:29 |
| lderan | or "cat /etc/issue" if that doesn't work | 22:29 |
| Pinky | buntu 12.10 / n /l | 22:30 |
| Pinky | ubuntu 12.10 /n /1 | 22:30 |
| bazhang | why do you need the latest version of vbox? | 22:31 |
| lderan | ah try apt-get instead of yum :) | 22:31 |
| Pinky | dont really need it was just trying to update ... tried that also will give u the out put in a sec | 22:31 |
| bazhang | thats not the way to install software in ubuntu | 22:32 |
| bazhang | always best to stick with the package manager | 22:32 |
| Pinky | says unable to locate package | 22:32 |
| bazhang | you dl'd a deb, so apt-get wont be able to install that | 22:32 |
| bazhang | the problem of chasing the latest versions , is that you will always have to do it manually once you start | 22:33 |
| Pinky | it talks about adding repository .... | 22:34 |
| Pinky | so once you manual add something you will most likey have to always maualy update it ... | 22:35 |
| bazhang | once you go outside of the customary official repos, you lose support | 22:36 |
| IdleOne | iirc the .deb from vbox will add the proper repo from virtualbox and will update the packages from that repo when they are available. | 22:37 |
| bazhang | is there a seriously good reason to get the very newest version | 22:37 |
| IdleOne | probably not | 22:37 |
| Pinky | nope | 22:37 |
| Pinky | just playing around | 22:37 |
| bazhang | why not play around in a vbox | 22:37 |
| bazhang | to play around on your own system is not a good choice. like adding many 3rd party repos, or PPA | 22:38 |
| Pinky | found that out have to reload whole thing 3 x this year .. | 22:39 |
| Pinky | PPA ? | 22:40 |
| bazhang | !ppa | 22:41 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 22:41 |
| brianfalcon | hola espero aprender mucho de linux aqui | 23:04 |
| Pinky | thanks for all your help | 23:06 |
| bazhang | !es | brianfalcon | 23:06 |
| ubottu | brianfalcon: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. | 23:06 |
| brianfalcon | ok muchas gracias | 23:07 |
| brianfalcon | #xubuntu-es | 23:07 |
| oelsen | hi | 23:28 |
| oelsen | well I have a stupid question. how do i install a new package but keep the old system? | 23:29 |
| oelsen | somehow i have the feeling I only can upgrade the whole system at once | 23:29 |
| moetunes | oelsen: try sudo apt-get unstall <some package> in a terminal | 23:34 |
| moetunes | oelsen: try sudo apt-get install <some package> in a terminal | 23:35 |
| oelsen | it installs the same. i just did that before i asked | 23:35 |
| moetunes | try adding an update in there | 23:36 |
| moetunes | sudo apt-get update | 23:36 |
| oelsen | that should update the äh, ports? (I used freebsd before) | 23:36 |
| moetunes | yep it finds out if there are new packages in the repositories | 23:37 |
| moetunes | !repos | 23:38 |
| ubottu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. | 23:38 |
| oelsen | thank you for the support. I'll try that tomorrow | 23:46 |
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