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Riddellapachelogger: the boot splash doesn't show on an installed system :(00:52
Riddellbug 117253400:54
ubottubug 1172534 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "plymouth boot splash does not show on an installed system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117253400:54
ScottKAt least that could be SRU'ed (I've seen that too, although it's not consistent)01:56
Riddellmeh, ubiquity doesn't appear when booting the armhf image bug 117255203:02
ubottubug 1172552 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not appear on kubuntu arm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117255203:02
ahoneybunhey Riddell03:18
Riddellhi apachelogger 03:25
Riddellno03:25
Riddellhi ahoneybun 03:26
Riddellall the tests for amd64 passed, but I'd be a lot happier if someone other than me tested it03:29
valorieI went to log my upgrades on the iso tracker, but they appear to be already done03:34
valorieeverything went well, just like yesterday03:34
Riddellvalorie: please log anyway!03:34
valorieyou want two identical reports?03:34
Riddellvalorie: yep, I have an unofficial policy of not wanting to release anything unless someone other than me has tested03:35
RiddellI don't trust myself as both judge and jury03:35
valorieScottK has done the upgrades as well03:35
valorieI haven't downloaded any isos as yet03:35
ahoneybunRiddell: by the way I can not get adb to flash the userdata image my nexus keep freezing03:35
Riddellvalorie: and since you're into upgrades, this could do with a proofread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades/Kubuntu03:35
ahoneybunI've upgrade to 13.04 yesterday03:36
Riddellahoneybun: that nexus image just needs fastboot not adb (as far as I understand it)03:36
valorieRiddell: the upgrades page looks lovely03:37
ahoneybunRiddell: thats what I mean I used fastboot and the nexus freezes when it is flashing the .img file03:37
ahoneybunRiddell: it does look nice, I had to force the upgrade in konsole03:38
ahoneybunalso I could not help but see that the Kubuntu G+ page has used the banner I made :003:41
Riddellahoneybun: it will freeze when flashing but should unfreeze when it's copied over?03:46
ScottKvalorie: Nothing wrong with having multiple test results.03:47
ahoneybunRiddell: when I unhooked it, it said it was coping for 317 secs which is long for 717mbs no?03:49
Riddellahoneybun: mm yes03:49
Riddellahoneybun: oh03:49
RiddellI know03:49
Riddellahoneybun: it's because the image is too big03:49
Riddellthere's a way around it03:49
Riddellsorry, that one caught me too03:49
Riddelladd -S 512M  to fastboot I think03:50
Riddellmakes it copy it in smaller chunks03:50
ahoneybunRiddell: I'll try that now03:51
ScottKRiddell: I think we've got a shot at releasing PPC, although it'll need some warning labels.03:51
ahoneybunso sudo fastboot flash userdata "/path" -S 512M ?03:52
RiddellScottK: didn't I hear ubiquity didn't start?03:53
ScottKRiddell: I did retest the i386 encrypted llvm case.  Unfortunately my test machine is i386 only.03:53
ScottKRiddell: It appears there may be a workaround.03:53
ScottKWe're promised more testing tonight.03:53
Riddellahoneybun: yeah I think so03:53
RiddellScottK: which tonight?03:53
ScottKNot sure.03:54
ScottKIt was awhile ago, so I think one that happens before release.03:54
ahoneybunRiddell: I think that should be added to the wiki03:56
ahoneybunstill froze03:57
ahoneybunok it sent it and then it tried to write and the tablet shutoff03:58
Riddellahoneybun: if you send a large image and it freezes then you need to restart it to unfreeze03:59
ahoneybunI know, what about the banner I made for the 13.04 release?03:59
ahoneybunI lowered it to 256M and it got though one phase04:01
Riddellahoneybun: yep, need it shortly, where can I find it?04:01
ahoneybungetting it for yo04:02
ahoneybunyou04:02
ahoneybunRiddell: here you go <a href="http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/AaronHoneycutt/media/kubuntu-banner-1304-2_zpsf76e6d5e.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a594/AaronHoneycutt/kubuntu-banner-1304-2_zpsf76e6d5e.png" border="0" alt=" photo kubuntu-banner-1304-2_zpsf76e6d5e.png"/></a>04:02
ahoneybunwhat I was saying was that the Kubuntu Google Plus page used it for the testing promo04:02
Riddellahoneybun: that's the same size as the current one?04:03
ahoneybunRiddell: I got it to write the whole image!04:03
ahoneybunRiddell: yes 944 by 23104:03
Riddellahoneybun: awesome, you're a life saver04:03
ahoneybunRiddell: np ;)04:04
Riddellcor, distrowatch are quick to update http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu04:05
ahoneybunRiddell: I'm talking about this https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts04:05
ahoneybunI got a error message about mounting 04:07
Riddellvalorie: on the upgrade you get a boot splash?04:08
RiddellI seem to remember I did but not sure04:08
ahoneybunthe flashing Kubuntu logo?04:08
Riddellyeah04:09
ahoneybunI get it all the time now04:09
ahoneybunafter the upgrade04:09
Riddellyeah thought so, it works after an upgrade just not from a new install04:10
ahoneybunwith the blue behind the text04:10
ahoneybunoh ok04:10
ahoneybunI just want to know how they got the image to use04:11
Riddellahoneybun: I don't see http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a594/AaronHoneycutt/kubuntu-banner-1304-2_zpsf76e6d5e.png on https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts04:13
Riddellother than in the repost of my blog04:13
Riddellmaybe you didn't realise I also snuck it in here http://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/23/1304-testers-needed04:13
ahoneybunRiddell: thats where it came from! ok now I know it was a repost from you04:15
ahoneybunI'm still waiting on my account on the blogs to be approved so I can comment04:15
Riddellyeah, me being naughty and stealing the announce thunder04:16
Riddellhmm, I don't know why accounts needs to be approved on blogs.kde, very annoying04:17
ahoneybunspeaking of that I just got approved04:18
Riddellgolly04:22
RiddellI hope you comment something insightful :)04:22
ahoneybunmaybe ;)04:23
ahoneybunanyway is there anything else Riddell?04:26
Riddellmore testing!04:30
ahoneybunRiddell: yes but I have work later today so I need to sleep04:32
ahoneybunoff I go to be 04:33
ahoneybunbed04:33
Riddellsleep well04:33
ahoneybunthanks you too man04:33
Riddellhmm, ubiquity not start on arm was a bug in beta too04:42
Riddellbut I completely forgot it04:42
Riddelldrat04:42
Riddellno arm images then I suppose04:42
Riddellhttps://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1304 is up for those with access, needs tidying up04:44
Riddelltime for me to sleep, phone me if something happens +44794193892104:44
ScottKRiddell:  I wonder if the same workaround that's suggested for ppc (mv ing the slide show) in Bug #1172161  would help with armhf?04:53
ubottubug 1172161 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Icon "Install Kubuntu 13.04" won't run in live session on PPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117216104:53
valorieyes, I get the bootsplash on both 64 and 32 bit05:01
valorieupgrade05:01
ScottKRight.  I've got it on upgrade, but not on installs (most of the time).  I think I got it once on a fresh install, not sure.05:02
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valoriethat sucks05:53
valorieand seems odd, as well05:53
soeegood morning06:49
smartboyhwEh the Active passed this time?07:53
smartboyhw:O07:54
smartboyhwRiddell: I think amd64 is ready.07:54
xnoxScottK: Riddell: in quantal webkit/slideshow did bork up armhf.......08:19
sheytanHey! will 13.04 shine today? :)08:45
Tm_TFYI I'm currently upgrading my behemoth system from Quantal to Raring08:52
shadeslayer\o/08:55
Tm_Thmmm, my do-release-upgrade decided running in server mode, I wonder if that will affect to anything09:04
shadeslayerserver mode?09:04
Tm_T-m MODE, --mode=MODE Run in a special upgrade mode. Currently "desktop" for regular upgrades of a desktop system and "server" for server systems are sup‐ ported.09:04
shadeslayerah09:05
shadeslayerhmm09:05
Tm_Tno idea what it actually does09:05
shadeslayerheh, same here, no idea what it does09:05
Tm_Tit did decide to remove gwibber, which isn't hurting so I suppose it's all fine anyway09:05
frandecaiDoes anybody know at what time is going to be launched the 13.04 version today??10:14
smartboyhwfrandecai: Get the latest updates in #ubuntu-release-party:P10:15
frandecaiOK, thanks10:16
Tm_T"it's out when there's release announcement by release manager"10:26
Tm_Tupgrade done, no apparent issues other than over-eager removing of packages after upgrade for my liking10:28
Tm_Twill restart in a moment10:28
smartboyhwTm_T: Yepp10:28
Riddellmorning10:34
smartboyhwHey Riddell10:35
smartboyhwCan you mark amd64 desktop ready for Kubuntu?10:35
smartboyhwTestcases are done10:35
Riddellvoila10:38
smartboyhwRiddell: Thx!10:38
* smartboyhw hugs Riddell and everyone for their hard work in R cycle.10:39
Riddellit's not out yet :)10:39
smartboyhwRiddell: Can't I do the hug now?10:42
smartboyhwI can do it later again when it releases:P10:42
apacheloggerRiddell: ?10:56
Riddellapachelogger: boot splash no worky :(10:57
smartboyhwRiddell: :(10:57
apacheloggeryeah10:58
apacheloggerlogs10:58
apacheloggerpicture10:58
apacheloggerlogs10:58
apacheloggeranything?10:58
apacheloggerah llvm password prompt10:59
* apachelogger tested that :O10:59
Riddellhow's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-130411:16
vista_killerhello11:17
Riddellhi vista_killer 11:17
vista_killeri have upgrade to 13.04 11:18
vista_killergz for tha nice work guys :)11:18
Riddellgreat11:20
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apacheloggerScottK, Riddell: I got no plymouth to begin with but text boot11:24
apacheloggerno clue why11:24
Riddellapachelogger: right, that's the bug11:27
apacheloggerI am not sure that is an issue on our end11:28
Riddellhow's this? kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download11:30
smartboyhwRiddell: Next time don't change it too early, no announcement yet…11:31
apacheloggerhmmmmm11:34
apacheloggerRiddell: if [ -x /bin/plymouth ] && plymouth --ping; then11:34
apacheloggerKEYSCRIPT="plymouth ask-for-password --prompt"11:34
apacheloggerIMO this is not kubuntu-logo specific11:34
RiddellI don't think it's related to needing a password11:34
Riddellit happens on any install11:35
apacheloggergot an ubuntu install to compare to?11:35
apacheloggerOo11:35
apacheloggerI am reasonable certain the install I just overwrote had working plymouth11:35
apacheloggerRiddell: vbox or actual hardware?11:35
Riddellapachelogger: both11:37
apacheloggersudo grep -ri plymouth /var/log11:38
Riddellapachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plymouth.log11:39
BluesKajHiyas all11:41
apacheloggerRiddell: install plymouth-x11 then run.... sudo plymouthd --no-daemon --debug --debug-file=debug.log ... then in another terminal sudo plymouth show-splash ... then sudo plymouth quit11:47
soeegood morning, are we celebrating already ?11:49
smartboyhwsoee: Just wait for 1-2 hours:P11:50
soeehmm maybe good idea :) so i can celebrate just after work11:50
Riddellapachelogger: hmm scared to run that incase X breaks while I've got the release page ready to click go11:54
apacheloggerRiddell: I can do that :P11:55
apacheloggerwell, iso download finishes in 5 minutes anyway11:55
apacheloggerthough I probably won't be able to reproduce it :P11:55
ScottKRiddell: We got a powerpc success with a whopping big workaround.  I'm going to call that a win.  Did you see the comment about removing the slideshow and seeing if Ubiquity starts then?12:00
RiddellScottK: no I didn't, is that a  suggestion for arm?12:01
ScottKYes.12:01
ScottKRiddell: See the powerpc test comments.  I suspect that may help on arm.12:01
xnoxScottK: good.12:02
Riddellcor, Kubuntu mentioned on slashdot http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/25/033224/shuttleworth-calls-ubuntu-performance-art-calls-out-critics12:02
ScottKIf only he'd mentioned the name of the next release in the interview ...12:05
ScottKRiddell: Do you think that's worth a try on armhf?  Better than not having something at all for release if it works.12:05
RiddellScottK: worth a try although I'm not sure how to remove it, will play around in a bit12:06
apacheloggerhm12:13
Riddellapachelogger: breakage?12:14
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/25/plasma-desktopoB2171.png12:15
apacheloggersplash is not set12:15
apacheloggerin fact a whole bunch of stuff is misisng12:15
smartboyhwIT IS RELEASED!12:16
apacheloggerprimarily it is broken12:16
apacheloggerwhich I have been saying about raring for months now12:16
ahoneybunwonderful work on the boot splash apachelogger12:17
apacheloggerit is working for you? :O12:17
smartboyhwSomeone change chan topics:P12:18
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smartboyhwapachelogger: Also in #kubuntu?12:19
ahoneybunapachelogger: I upgraded and it is12:20
apacheloggerRiddell: cat /boot/grub/gub.cfg12:20
apacheloggerthen update-grub212:20
apacheloggerthen paste again12:20
apacheloggerahoneybun: ok, cool12:20
Mamaroksmartboyhw: #kubuntu is for user support, that shouldn't have the same topic12:20
apacheloggeryeah it seems to me on new installs the grub entries somehow end up broken12:20
ahoneybunyep, omg they used my banner on the main site :)12:20
Riddellapachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/grub.cfg12:20
apacheloggerlinux/boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic root=UUID=c70df898-144e-4910-8205-afdbb1abf4d6 ro   12:23
apacheloggersame defect12:23
ahoneybunmorning people12:23
Riddellwhat images do you see missing from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1304 ?12:23
apacheloggerknsbackend12:24
ahoneybunRiddell: libreoffice 4 and MTP? or do they not have ones?12:24
Riddellahoneybun: didn't give them ones12:26
Riddellok copied knsbackend to people.ubuntu.com12:26
Riddelland same for http://www.kubuntu.org/12:27
Riddellahoneybun: your work of art is out!12:28
ahoneybunRiddell: yay! thanks for the help, anyway I need to go to work12:29
apacheloggerRiddell: it's probably the grub name change12:34
ScottKRiddell: Best sort armhf since it turns out we released it.  ;-)12:34
apacheloggerdebian-installer's grub-installer probably does not handle this correctly12:35
ScottKhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/release/12:35
Tm_Tmy upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 with kubuntu-full and kde-full worked out just fine12:44
RiddellTm_T: great!12:45
RiddellScottK: arm users will need some patience with me I fear, I'm not the fastest having stayed up until 512:45
Tm_Talso contains Unity and some other stuff, that's why I call it behemoth12:46
dmattbig thanx to all for 13.0412:46
dmattbtw, md5sum for 32 bit is missing in http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block 12:47
Tm_Tyay, akonadi and friends are all happy, my huuuuge mail collection is just working12:47
* sheytan still misses a nice software center. Muon discover like, but with better UI (the current one is kinda wired and has glitches) :(12:50
Quintasan\o12:58
QuintasanTesting upgrade12:58
Riddelldmatt: md5sums are down at the bottom of the page12:59
dmattRiddell: there is sum for amd64 twice, 32bit is missing13:00
Riddellah I see13:01
Quintasanjussi: ping13:13
apacheloggerRiddell: it appears the splash options are not added to default/grub until after update-grub was run13:24
apacheloggerbest talk to xnox I guess ... at any rate post-install fix is update-grub so I guess a no-change SRU of kubuntu-settings will take care of it via postinst13:25
smartboyhw_Guys, new name for 13.10 S cycle (Saucy Salamander) http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 :O14:44
smartboyhw_Riddell, apachelogger, shadeslayer, yofel__: ^14:46
shadeslayerugh14:46
smartboyhw_ugh indeed:P14:47
freglhi, I just tested updating to kubuntu 13.4 on a machine with nvidia proprietary drivers installed and I'm left without kwin. starting it give me: kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa-egl/libEGL.so.1: undefined symbol: wl_callback_interface14:53
freglother stuff seems to work fine... but it's a bit tiresome ;)14:53
shadeslayer0.o14:54
smartboyhw_o.014:54
freglinteresting enough compiz seems to work14:55
shadeslayerlolwot14:55
shadeslayermaybe ask Martin when he's around?14:55
freglyes14:57
freglseems like linking to the egl version is not a good idea... I can send a mail about it14:58
yofelsmartboyhw_: that's unexpectedly... normal14:59
ScottKshadeslayer: saucy is at least short and easy to type.  All I want in a release name.14:59
smartboyhw_yofel: That's unexpectedly... ugly14:59
smartboyhw_ScottK: +115:00
yofelwell, not ugly per se, but it'll feel weird a bit typing saucy all the time...15:00
shadeslayer^15:00
shadeslayerthat's what I realized just now15:00
shadeslayerthe pocket will be called saucy15:00
smartboyhw_yofel: lol15:00
shadeslayersaucy changelogs :P15:01
* shadeslayer thought raring was so much better15:01
* smartboyhw_ agrees with shadeslayer15:01
yofelfregl: could you try to downgrade libegl-mesa to the quantal version? (9.0.3), it could be that 9.1.1 has missing symbols and nobody noticed so far15:02
* smartboyhw_ will hate typing saucy in changelogs… extremely awkwars15:02
smartboyhw_*awkward15:02
ScottKAll hail the sauce: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/sriracha (not for work or small children).15:03
smartboyhw_lol15:03
smartboyhw_I like this explanation of salamander https://plus.google.com/109365858706205035322/posts/5M6xpKvNQJS15:04
yofelhm, libegl1-mesa has a symbols file though, so somebody would have noticed if symbols went missing15:04
* shadeslayer goes to have dinner chanting "nope nope nope"15:06
smartboyhw_lol15:07
ScottKRiddell: I fiddled the release announcement a bit in the known problems section to talk about powerpc.15:22
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palassoThis section is blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes#Kubuntu Should there be a reference to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-13.04 as with the section below (Xubuntu)?15:48
lordievaderGood afternoon15:53
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka)15:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 982889 in OEM Priority Project precise "X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver" [High,In progress]15:54
ScottKpalasso: That's just where they draft up the release announcement.  It was correct in the actual announcement.15:55
ScottKIt should be there, but it's not a major issue.15:55
ScottKBoost for saucy will be 1.53, so build-deps will need to be updated.16:17
shadeslayer:(16:30
shadeslayerI will be wincing for the next 6 months I guess16:30
jussihehe16:31
yofelboost is the smallest of your worries :P16:42
yofelnow that raring is done we can start merging 4.10.2 from debian ;)16:42
yofelthat'll be fun16:43
yofel(not)16:43
shadeslayer^^16:44
shadeslayerI'll go hide in my bed while you do it :P16:44
yofelyou sure know how to raise everyone's morale, huh...16:46
QuintasanWell16:48
QuintasanSave for lockscreen crapping X server16:49
QuintasanThe update went fine even after reboot in the middle by dpkg --configure -a16:49
yofelanyway16:50
* yofel off for the evening16:50
shadeslayerhurray for uys16:50
shadeslayergo celebrate or sth :D16:50
yofelwill do ;P16:50
ScottKJontheEchidna: So how come when I fire up muon updater and check for updates, it says there are updates but the "install updates" button is greyed out?17:04
JontheEchidnathat would be a bug I guess17:04
ScottKJontheEchidna: So if I quit and restart the updater (so there are known updates when it starts) then it's fine.17:05
ScottKSo it looks like something isn't getting refreshed.17:06
JontheEchidnayeah17:07
shadeslayeranyone have a U2412M ?17:07
JontheEchidnaScottK: it's checking too early for whether or not updates are checked when enabling/disabling the button. Not too hard of a fix.17:12
ScottKJontheEchidna: Excellent.  Ping me and I can accept the SRU when it's ready ...17:13
JontheEchidnaaww, somebody reported that a week ago and I didn't notice. :(17:26
soeegratz :)17:39
soeeagateau, did you implement the context menu options for trash icon ? i see some mail with this bug report :)18:04
soee(homerun)18:04
JontheEchidnaScottK: bug 117280318:30
ubottubug 1172803 in muon (Ubuntu Raring) "The "Install Updates" button remains disabled after a check for updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117280318:30
ScottKJontheEchidna: Go ahead and upload it to raring.18:31
JontheEchidnaScottK: it's sitting in -proposed queue now18:31
ScottKOh, I see you did.18:31
ScottKOK18:31
ahoneybunhey shadeslayer I found my way to help :) with the banner anyway18:31
shadeslayer:)18:33
ScottKJontheEchidna: All done.  Thanks.18:33
JontheEchidnathanks18:34
ahoneybunshadeslayer: what do you think of it?18:35
shadeslayerit's quite awesome ;)18:35
ahoneybunnice :) thanks18:45
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murthyThank you all for the new release18:52
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jessieMy nepomuk server keeps dying. I've tried removing all nepomuk repositories and configurations, but it still dies.19:37
jessieThis is the .xsession-errors that occurs when I try disabling and re-enabling nepomuk: http://pastebin.com/cjX4C74219:37
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1172859] KWin crashes on startup in 13.4 with nvidia driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1172859 (by Frederik Gladhorn)20:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1172859 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KWin crashes on startup in 13.4 with nvidia driver" [Undecided,New]20:04
ScottKJontheEchidna: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31887521:19
ubottuKDE bug 318875 in updater "Crash when closing window after changing software sources" [Crash,Unconfirmed]21:19

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