[00:52] apachelogger: the boot splash doesn't show on an installed system :( [00:54] bug 1172534 [00:54] bug 1172534 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "plymouth boot splash does not show on an installed system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172534 [01:56] At least that could be SRU'ed (I've seen that too, although it's not consistent) [03:02] meh, ubiquity doesn't appear when booting the armhf image bug 1172552 [03:02] bug 1172552 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not appear on kubuntu arm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172552 [03:18] hey Riddell [03:25] hi apachelogger [03:25] no [03:26] hi ahoneybun [03:29] all the tests for amd64 passed, but I'd be a lot happier if someone other than me tested it [03:34] I went to log my upgrades on the iso tracker, but they appear to be already done [03:34] everything went well, just like yesterday [03:34] valorie: please log anyway! [03:34] you want two identical reports? [03:35] valorie: yep, I have an unofficial policy of not wanting to release anything unless someone other than me has tested [03:35] I don't trust myself as both judge and jury [03:35] ScottK has done the upgrades as well [03:35] I haven't downloaded any isos as yet [03:35] Riddell: by the way I can not get adb to flash the userdata image my nexus keep freezing [03:35] valorie: and since you're into upgrades, this could do with a proofread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades/Kubuntu [03:36] I've upgrade to 13.04 yesterday [03:36] ahoneybun: that nexus image just needs fastboot not adb (as far as I understand it) [03:37] Riddell: the upgrades page looks lovely [03:37] Riddell: thats what I mean I used fastboot and the nexus freezes when it is flashing the .img file [03:38] Riddell: it does look nice, I had to force the upgrade in konsole [03:41] also I could not help but see that the Kubuntu G+ page has used the banner I made :0 [03:46] ahoneybun: it will freeze when flashing but should unfreeze when it's copied over? [03:47] valorie: Nothing wrong with having multiple test results. [03:49] Riddell: when I unhooked it, it said it was coping for 317 secs which is long for 717mbs no? [03:49] ahoneybun: mm yes [03:49] ahoneybun: oh [03:49] I know [03:49] ahoneybun: it's because the image is too big [03:49] there's a way around it [03:49] sorry, that one caught me too [03:50] add -S 512M to fastboot I think [03:50] makes it copy it in smaller chunks [03:51] Riddell: I'll try that now [03:51] Riddell: I think we've got a shot at releasing PPC, although it'll need some warning labels. [03:52] so sudo fastboot flash userdata "/path" -S 512M ? [03:53] ScottK: didn't I hear ubiquity didn't start? [03:53] Riddell: I did retest the i386 encrypted llvm case. Unfortunately my test machine is i386 only. [03:53] Riddell: It appears there may be a workaround. [03:53] We're promised more testing tonight. [03:53] ahoneybun: yeah I think so [03:53] ScottK: which tonight? [03:54] Not sure. [03:54] It was awhile ago, so I think one that happens before release. [03:56] Riddell: I think that should be added to the wiki [03:57] still froze [03:58] ok it sent it and then it tried to write and the tablet shutoff [03:59] ahoneybun: if you send a large image and it freezes then you need to restart it to unfreeze [03:59] I know, what about the banner I made for the 13.04 release? [04:01] I lowered it to 256M and it got though one phase [04:01] ahoneybun: yep, need it shortly, where can I find it? [04:02] getting it for yo [04:02] you [04:02] Riddell: here you go  photo kubuntu-banner-1304-2_zpsf76e6d5e.png [04:02] what I was saying was that the Kubuntu Google Plus page used it for the testing promo [04:03] ahoneybun: that's the same size as the current one? [04:03] Riddell: I got it to write the whole image! [04:03] Riddell: yes 944 by 231 [04:03] ahoneybun: awesome, you're a life saver [04:04] Riddell: np ;) [04:05] cor, distrowatch are quick to update http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu [04:05] Riddell: I'm talking about this https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts [04:07] I got a error message about mounting [04:08] valorie: on the upgrade you get a boot splash? [04:08] I seem to remember I did but not sure [04:08] the flashing Kubuntu logo? [04:09] yeah [04:09] I get it all the time now [04:09] after the upgrade [04:10] yeah thought so, it works after an upgrade just not from a new install [04:10] with the blue behind the text [04:10] oh ok [04:11] I just want to know how they got the image to use [04:13] ahoneybun: I don't see http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a594/AaronHoneycutt/kubuntu-banner-1304-2_zpsf76e6d5e.png on https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts [04:13] other than in the repost of my blog [04:13] maybe you didn't realise I also snuck it in here http://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/23/1304-testers-needed [04:15] Riddell: thats where it came from! ok now I know it was a repost from you [04:15] I'm still waiting on my account on the blogs to be approved so I can comment [04:16] yeah, me being naughty and stealing the announce thunder [04:17] hmm, I don't know why accounts needs to be approved on blogs.kde, very annoying [04:18] speaking of that I just got approved [04:22] golly [04:22] I hope you comment something insightful :) [04:23] maybe ;) [04:26] anyway is there anything else Riddell? [04:30] more testing! [04:32] Riddell: yes but I have work later today so I need to sleep [04:33] off I go to be [04:33] bed [04:33] sleep well [04:33] thanks you too man [04:42] hmm, ubiquity not start on arm was a bug in beta too [04:42] but I completely forgot it [04:42] drat [04:42] no arm images then I suppose [04:44] https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1304 is up for those with access, needs tidying up [04:44] time for me to sleep, phone me if something happens +447941938921 [04:53] Riddell: I wonder if the same workaround that's suggested for ppc (mv ing the slide show) in Bug #1172161 would help with armhf? [04:53] bug 1172161 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Icon "Install Kubuntu 13.04" won't run in live session on PPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172161 [05:01] yes, I get the bootsplash on both 64 and 32 bit [05:01] upgrade [05:02] Right. I've got it on upgrade, but not on installs (most of the time). I think I got it once on a fresh install, not sure. === jono is now known as Guest15458 [05:53] that sucks [05:53] and seems odd, as well [06:49] good morning [07:53] Eh the Active passed this time? [07:54] :O [07:54] Riddell: I think amd64 is ready. [08:19] ScottK: Riddell: in quantal webkit/slideshow did bork up armhf....... [08:45] Hey! will 13.04 shine today? :) [08:52] FYI I'm currently upgrading my behemoth system from Quantal to Raring [08:55] \o/ [09:04] hmmm, my do-release-upgrade decided running in server mode, I wonder if that will affect to anything [09:04] server mode? [09:04] -m MODE, --mode=MODE Run in a special upgrade mode. Currently "desktop" for regular upgrades of a desktop system and "server" for server systems are sup‐ ported. [09:05] ah [09:05] hmm [09:05] no idea what it actually does [09:05] heh, same here, no idea what it does [09:05] it did decide to remove gwibber, which isn't hurting so I suppose it's all fine anyway [10:14] Does anybody know at what time is going to be launched the 13.04 version today?? [10:15] frandecai: Get the latest updates in #ubuntu-release-party:P [10:16] OK, thanks [10:26] "it's out when there's release announcement by release manager" [10:28] upgrade done, no apparent issues other than over-eager removing of packages after upgrade for my liking [10:28] will restart in a moment [10:28] Tm_T: Yepp [10:34] morning [10:35] Hey Riddell [10:35] Can you mark amd64 desktop ready for Kubuntu? [10:35] Testcases are done [10:38] voila [10:38] Riddell: Thx! [10:39] * smartboyhw hugs Riddell and everyone for their hard work in R cycle. [10:39] it's not out yet :) [10:42] Riddell: Can't I do the hug now? [10:42] I can do it later again when it releases:P [10:56] Riddell: ? [10:57] apachelogger: boot splash no worky :( [10:57] Riddell: :( [10:58] yeah [10:58] logs [10:58] picture [10:58] logs [10:58] anything? [10:59] ah llvm password prompt [10:59] * apachelogger tested that :O [11:16] how's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1304 [11:17] hello [11:17] hi vista_killer [11:18] i have upgrade to 13.04 [11:18] gz for tha nice work guys :) [11:20] great === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [11:24] ScottK, Riddell: I got no plymouth to begin with but text boot [11:24] no clue why [11:27] apachelogger: right, that's the bug [11:28] I am not sure that is an issue on our end [11:30] how's this? kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [11:31] Riddell: Next time don't change it too early, no announcement yet… [11:34] hmmmmm [11:34] Riddell: if [ -x /bin/plymouth ] && plymouth --ping; then [11:34] KEYSCRIPT="plymouth ask-for-password --prompt" [11:34] IMO this is not kubuntu-logo specific [11:34] I don't think it's related to needing a password [11:35] it happens on any install [11:35] got an ubuntu install to compare to? [11:35] Oo [11:35] I am reasonable certain the install I just overwrote had working plymouth [11:35] Riddell: vbox or actual hardware? [11:37] apachelogger: both [11:38] sudo grep -ri plymouth /var/log [11:39] apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plymouth.log [11:41] Hiyas all [11:47] Riddell: install plymouth-x11 then run.... sudo plymouthd --no-daemon --debug --debug-file=debug.log ... then in another terminal sudo plymouth show-splash ... then sudo plymouth quit [11:49] good morning, are we celebrating already ? [11:50] soee: Just wait for 1-2 hours:P [11:50] hmm maybe good idea :) so i can celebrate just after work [11:54] apachelogger: hmm scared to run that incase X breaks while I've got the release page ready to click go [11:55] Riddell: I can do that :P [11:55] well, iso download finishes in 5 minutes anyway [11:55] though I probably won't be able to reproduce it :P [12:00] Riddell: We got a powerpc success with a whopping big workaround. I'm going to call that a win. Did you see the comment about removing the slideshow and seeing if Ubiquity starts then? [12:01] ScottK: no I didn't, is that a suggestion for arm? [12:01] Yes. [12:01] Riddell: See the powerpc test comments. I suspect that may help on arm. [12:02] ScottK: good. [12:02] cor, Kubuntu mentioned on slashdot http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/25/033224/shuttleworth-calls-ubuntu-performance-art-calls-out-critics [12:05] If only he'd mentioned the name of the next release in the interview ... [12:05] Riddell: Do you think that's worth a try on armhf? Better than not having something at all for release if it works. [12:06] ScottK: worth a try although I'm not sure how to remove it, will play around in a bit [12:13] hm [12:14] apachelogger: breakage? [12:15] http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/25/plasma-desktopoB2171.png [12:15] splash is not set [12:15] in fact a whole bunch of stuff is misisng [12:16] IT IS RELEASED! [12:16] primarily it is broken [12:16] which I have been saying about raring for months now [12:17] wonderful work on the boot splash apachelogger [12:17] it is working for you? :O [12:18] Someone change chan topics:P === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas [12:19] apachelogger: Also in #kubuntu? [12:20] apachelogger: I upgraded and it is [12:20] Riddell: cat /boot/grub/gub.cfg [12:20] then update-grub2 [12:20] then paste again [12:20] ahoneybun: ok, cool [12:20] smartboyhw: #kubuntu is for user support, that shouldn't have the same topic [12:20] yeah it seems to me on new installs the grub entries somehow end up broken [12:20] yep, omg they used my banner on the main site :) [12:20] apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/grub.cfg [12:23] linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic root=UUID=c70df898-144e-4910-8205-afdbb1abf4d6 ro [12:23] same defect [12:23] morning people [12:23] what images do you see missing from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1304 ? [12:24] knsbackend [12:24] Riddell: libreoffice 4 and MTP? or do they not have ones? [12:26] ahoneybun: didn't give them ones [12:26] ok copied knsbackend to people.ubuntu.com [12:27] and same for http://www.kubuntu.org/ [12:28] ahoneybun: your work of art is out! [12:29] Riddell: yay! thanks for the help, anyway I need to go to work [12:34] Riddell: it's probably the grub name change [12:34] Riddell: Best sort armhf since it turns out we released it. ;-) [12:35] debian-installer's grub-installer probably does not handle this correctly [12:35] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/release/ [12:44] my upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 with kubuntu-full and kde-full worked out just fine [12:45] Tm_T: great! [12:45] ScottK: arm users will need some patience with me I fear, I'm not the fastest having stayed up until 5 [12:46] also contains Unity and some other stuff, that's why I call it behemoth [12:46] big thanx to all for 13.04 [12:47] btw, md5sum for 32 bit is missing in http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block [12:47] yay, akonadi and friends are all happy, my huuuuge mail collection is just working [12:50] * sheytan still misses a nice software center. Muon discover like, but with better UI (the current one is kinda wired and has glitches) :( [12:58] \o [12:58] Testing upgrade [12:59] dmatt: md5sums are down at the bottom of the page [13:00] Riddell: there is sum for amd64 twice, 32bit is missing [13:01] ah I see [13:13] jussi: ping [13:24] Riddell: it appears the splash options are not added to default/grub until after update-grub was run [13:25] best talk to xnox I guess ... at any rate post-install fix is update-grub so I guess a no-change SRU of kubuntu-settings will take care of it via postinst [14:44] Guys, new name for 13.10 S cycle (Saucy Salamander) http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 :O [14:46] Riddell, apachelogger, shadeslayer, yofel__: ^ [14:46] ugh [14:47] ugh indeed:P [14:53] hi, I just tested updating to kubuntu 13.4 on a machine with nvidia proprietary drivers installed and I'm left without kwin. starting it give me: kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa-egl/libEGL.so.1: undefined symbol: wl_callback_interface [14:53] other stuff seems to work fine... but it's a bit tiresome ;) [14:54] 0.o [14:54] o.0 [14:55] interesting enough compiz seems to work [14:55] lolwot [14:55] maybe ask Martin when he's around? [14:57] yes [14:58] seems like linking to the egl version is not a good idea... I can send a mail about it [14:59] smartboyhw_: that's unexpectedly... normal [14:59] shadeslayer: saucy is at least short and easy to type. All I want in a release name. [14:59] yofel: That's unexpectedly... ugly [15:00] ScottK: +1 [15:00] well, not ugly per se, but it'll feel weird a bit typing saucy all the time... [15:00] ^ [15:00] that's what I realized just now [15:00] the pocket will be called saucy [15:00] yofel: lol [15:01] saucy changelogs :P [15:01] * shadeslayer thought raring was so much better [15:01] * smartboyhw_ agrees with shadeslayer [15:02] fregl: could you try to downgrade libegl-mesa to the quantal version? (9.0.3), it could be that 9.1.1 has missing symbols and nobody noticed so far [15:02] * smartboyhw_ will hate typing saucy in changelogs… extremely awkwars [15:02] *awkward [15:03] All hail the sauce: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/sriracha (not for work or small children). [15:03] lol [15:04] I like this explanation of salamander https://plus.google.com/109365858706205035322/posts/5M6xpKvNQJS [15:04] hm, libegl1-mesa has a symbols file though, so somebody would have noticed if symbols went missing [15:06] * shadeslayer goes to have dinner chanting "nope nope nope" [15:07] lol [15:22] Riddell: I fiddled the release announcement a bit in the known problems section to talk about powerpc. === palasso_ is now known as palasso === smarter__ is now known as smarter [15:48] This section is blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes#Kubuntu Should there be a reference to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-13.04 as with the section below (Xubuntu)? [15:53] Good afternoon [15:54] ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka) [15:54] Launchpad bug 982889 in OEM Priority Project precise "X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver" [High,In progress] [15:55] palasso: That's just where they draft up the release announcement. It was correct in the actual announcement. [15:55] It should be there, but it's not a major issue. [16:17] Boost for saucy will be 1.53, so build-deps will need to be updated. [16:30] :( [16:30] I will be wincing for the next 6 months I guess [16:31] hehe [16:42] boost is the smallest of your worries :P [16:42] now that raring is done we can start merging 4.10.2 from debian ;) [16:43] that'll be fun [16:43] (not) [16:44] ^^ [16:44] I'll go hide in my bed while you do it :P [16:46] you sure know how to raise everyone's morale, huh... [16:48] Well [16:49] Save for lockscreen crapping X server [16:49] The update went fine even after reboot in the middle by dpkg --configure -a [16:50] anyway [16:50] * yofel off for the evening [16:50] hurray for uys [16:50] go celebrate or sth :D [16:50] will do ;P [17:04] JontheEchidna: So how come when I fire up muon updater and check for updates, it says there are updates but the "install updates" button is greyed out? [17:04] that would be a bug I guess [17:05] JontheEchidna: So if I quit and restart the updater (so there are known updates when it starts) then it's fine. [17:06] So it looks like something isn't getting refreshed. [17:07] yeah [17:07] anyone have a U2412M ? [17:12] ScottK: it's checking too early for whether or not updates are checked when enabling/disabling the button. Not too hard of a fix. [17:13] JontheEchidna: Excellent. Ping me and I can accept the SRU when it's ready ... [17:26] aww, somebody reported that a week ago and I didn't notice. :( [17:39] gratz :) [18:04] agateau, did you implement the context menu options for trash icon ? i see some mail with this bug report :) [18:04] (homerun) [18:30] ScottK: bug 1172803 [18:30] bug 1172803 in muon (Ubuntu Raring) "The "Install Updates" button remains disabled after a check for updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172803 [18:31] JontheEchidna: Go ahead and upload it to raring. [18:31] ScottK: it's sitting in -proposed queue now [18:31] Oh, I see you did. [18:31] OK [18:31] hey shadeslayer I found my way to help :) with the banner anyway [18:33] :) [18:33] JontheEchidna: All done. Thanks. [18:34] thanks [18:35] shadeslayer: what do you think of it? [18:35] it's quite awesome ;) [18:45] nice :) thanks === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [18:52] Thank you all for the new release === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U [19:37] My nepomuk server keeps dying. I've tried removing all nepomuk repositories and configurations, but it still dies. [19:37] This is the .xsession-errors that occurs when I try disabling and re-enabling nepomuk: http://pastebin.com/cjX4C742 [20:04] ::workspace-bugs:: [1172859] KWin crashes on startup in 13.4 with nvidia driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1172859 (by Frederik Gladhorn) [20:04] Launchpad bug 1172859 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KWin crashes on startup in 13.4 with nvidia driver" [Undecided,New] [21:19] JontheEchidna: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318875 [21:19] KDE bug 318875 in updater "Crash when closing window after changing software sources" [Crash,Unconfirmed]