[01:29] <machstem> hey guys, anyone around ?
[01:30] <machstem> trying to figure out why my fstab wont mount my two NAS shares, both public/guest account (no credentials needed) using cifs
[01:30] <machstem> i rebuilt my box recently
[01:31] <machstem> copied over my fstab for backup
[01:31] <machstem> copied in the two shares
[01:31] <machstem> but when i try to access them, tells me i dont have the permissions
[01:31] <machstem> i can sudo mount -a manually
[01:31] <machstem> but won't work at boot
[01:31] <machstem> any ideas?
[01:32] <machstem> i installed lubuntu core
[01:32] <machstem> overtop of a mini.iso installation with minimal install
[01:32] <machstem> anyone? lol
[06:31] <syn-ack> Good evening
[14:19] <blumonkey> hi all
[14:20] <blumonkey> some one could help me? I have an old ACER ASPIRE 3000 and i don't see the wirless. It seams not visibile how device. Thanks in advance
[14:27] <phillw> blumonkey: it seems you have a broadcom wireless card. head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 for help on it.
[14:29] <blumonkey> phillw: thanks a lot!! i go faster to read it
[14:42] <blumonkey> Hi again phillw! The command "lspci" doesn't return any wirless devices. What does it mean and what i have to do? thanks
[14:48] <phillw> blumonkey: that does not bode well! try lsusb to see if it is there (I doubt it, but it's worth a try).
[14:53] <blumonkey> phillw: i have tried lsusb ... but nothing abouth wirless device! My i do something more?
[14:54] <blumonkey> dario001@ubuntu:~$ sudo lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub dario001@ubuntu:~$
[15:04] <phillw> blumonkey: if lspci cannot see the card, it may be disabled in bios or with the 'turn wifi off' button which will most likely be a keyboard combination. The people at that link would be better placed to help you.
[15:07] <blumonkey> Thanks phillw
[15:32] <SonikkuAmerica> 13.04! Yay!
[15:32] <phillw> indeed
[15:35] <SonikkuAmerica> I wrote my microblogging blurb about it yesterday... :\
[15:35] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm like "Get it! (Tomorrow.)"
[15:37] <phillw> well, those who got it yesterday made a wise choice :D
[15:38] <phillw> yesterday's release candidate is the actual release :)
[15:38] <SonikkuAmerica> I got it three days ago. (Ubuntu with Unity and all.) XD
[15:39] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: there were a couple of respins, but the update manager will take of all that.
[15:39] <SonikkuAmerica> In my Lubuntu VBox, incessant [ do-release-upgrade -d ] spam will follow in terminal.
[15:39] <phillw> *take care of all that*
[15:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah.
[15:40] <phillw> cdimages server is of course crawling, so I don't how long it will before my mirror is fully updated.
[15:42] <installgentoo> checked the website and it still at final beta 2?
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> installgentoo: The site hasn't been updated yet.
[15:43] <n-iCe> hi
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[15:52] <as2000> wow. release day and channel is dead
[15:53] <SonikkuAmerica> as2000: Whoa! Lubuntu has only been around as an official !flavor since 11.10... take it easy!
[15:54] <as2000> hey I love Lubuntu. I just thought there would be peeps flooding the channel is all
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Awesome. Ever think about spreading the word?
[15:55] <meerkat> lubuntu is good
[15:55] <meerkat> ubuntu messed up with that metro stuff
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> metro
[15:55] <meerkat> =)
[15:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Since when did the W8 Metro UI get ported to GTK+ or Qt?
[15:56] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[15:56] <as2000> as much as I can. Ha, getting my co-workers to convert is like pulling teeth. but I do have one other linux guy here and he is waiting for the downloads to populate
[15:58]  * SonikkuAmerica introduces as2000, D.D.S.
[16:00] <as2000> :)
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> I had a science teacher in high school who made the same concurrence w.r.t. teaching.
[16:07] <zleap> i have just downloaded 13.04
[16:08] <n-iCe> was it releases already? stable?
[16:14] <as2000> I think phillw is still populating the servers
[16:14] <phillw> the cdimage ar
[16:15] <phillw> area is done by the release team. my mirror is slowly zsyncing up as we speak.
[16:15] <as2000> yes!
[16:15] <sonofzeus> Hi there
[16:15] <sonofzeus> cd /usr/src svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/misc][7]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/misc svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/Tracker][8]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/Tracker
[16:15] <sonofzeus> Why isnt this command workin in the terminal?
[16:15] <as2000> Lubuntu website does not reflect download yet
[16:16] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[16:16] <sonofzeus> I'm a noob with linux and this command aint workin in my terminal , anyone knows why?
[16:17] <phillw> as2000: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.04/release/ seems fully populated?
[16:20] <sonofzeus> hey has the Lubuntu 13.04 version released yet?
[16:20] <phillw> sonofzeus: I can't help. Have you tried #ubuntu-beginners
[16:20] <sonofzeus> If so how shall I update my current install?
[16:20] <phillw> sonofzeus: yes it has, please read the release notes!
[16:21] <sonofzeus> Hmmm srry but where can I find the release notes?
[16:23] <n-iCe> any idea in how to create a wifi direct AP to share internet over it? thanks.
[16:25] <phillw> sonofzeus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Get_Lubuntu
[16:29] <as2000> phillw: thanks. lubuntu website I guess was not updated.
[16:30] <phillw> lubuntu.net will point to the correct area (it points to the wiki), but mario will have to edit the site.
[16:31] <phillw> to say it 13.04 is out.
[16:33] <phillw> yesh, top left "Get Lubuntu" points to the GetLubuntu wiki entry which has been updated.
[16:33] <n-iCe> phillw: I'm downloading 13.04 :)
[16:34] <phillw> n-iCe: do you have 12.10?
[16:34] <n-iCe> yes sir
[16:35] <phillw> n-iCe: then you need not download 13.04. Head to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Get_Lubuntu for instructions on upgrading lubuntu 12.10 --> 13.04
[16:35] <n-iCe> but that's gonna be slow, don't you think? since ubuntu servers most be full
[16:35] <phillw> are you using torrent down load for 13.04?
[16:35] <n-iCe> yes sir
[16:36] <n-iCe> 20minutes more and it is more.
[16:36] <phillw> that will possibly be faster.
[16:36] <n-iCe> I don't care about a clean install, since all my stuff is in dropbox
[16:46] <as2000> ugh torrent is slooooooowwww
[16:50] <meerkat> as2000, which one?
[16:51] <phillw> the lubuntu iso's are now being updated on my mirror server.
[16:52] <n-iCe> phillw: have you shared internet?
[16:53] <zleap> i downloaded the iso from the website, nothing to suggest it was beta 2
[16:53] <phillw> no, I use a WiFi router here
[16:53] <as2000> meerkat: lubuntu
[16:53] <meerkat> 32 or 64 bit?
[16:54] <phillw> zleap: if you got it from lubuntu.net, I think you will have got 12.10? Only "Get Lubuntu" on there is pointing to 13.04 AFAIK
[16:54] <as2000> meerkat: 32. says 1hour 20 mins to go. not bad I guess for release day
[16:54] <as2000> 8 0f 38 peers
[16:55] <phillw> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/raring/release/ is gradually populating. It's on a 100 Mb/s back bone so it should be faster for those images with few seeders
[16:55] <phillw> it grabs alternates, then desktops
[16:55] <meerkat> as2000, how many % left?
[16:56] <as2000> meerkat: about 80% left, but I see its picked up a bit
[16:57] <as2000> getting 130-192k speeds
[16:57] <meerkat> ah, yes. i see you. It says you only have 5%
[16:59] <meerkat> there's another guy on that torrent that is eating a bunch of bandwidth. :p
[17:00] <yo_mama> is version 13.04 done or what?
[17:00] <n-iCe> yo_mama: yes
[17:00] <n-iCe> meerkat: mee
[17:00] <n-iCe> you see me?
[17:01] <yo_mama> n-iCe: I don't find any info on http://lubuntu.net/
[17:01] <n-iCe> yo_mama: there is
[17:01] <yo_mama> link please n-iCe
[17:01] <n-iCe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[17:02] <meerkat> 87.255.14.xxx
[17:02] <meerkat> no idea who that is, though
[17:02] <n-iCe> I'm 189.191.217.63
[17:02] <n-iCe> you see me?
[17:02] <meerkat> you aren't on my list
[17:03] <n-iCe> I'm 400MB now
[17:03] <yo_mama> n-iCe: how do I know that's not a Beta or a RC ??
[17:04] <n-iCe> because the iso does not say tht
[17:04] <n-iCe> that
[17:04] <n-iCe> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/raring/release/lubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:04] <n-iCe> see ?
[17:04] <n-iCe> no beta or rc on the iso name
[17:06] <meerkat> yo_mama, 13.04 is out
[17:06] <meerkat> go to lubuntu.net and click download
[17:06] <meerkat> there it will be updated.
[17:08] <n-iCe> 20 minutes to go
[17:09] <as2000> 31 minutes
[17:10] <yo_mama> n-iCe: what are you waiting 4 ??
[17:10] <n-iCe> 13.04
[17:11] <yo_mama> you must have a slow connection bor :/
[17:11] <yo_mama> *bro
[17:12] <n-iCe> servers are full
[17:12] <n-iCe> today was released
[17:12] <n-iCe> everybody is downloading
[17:12] <yo_mama> use bittorrent!
[17:12] <n-iCe> I am
[17:12] <n-iCe> 400kb/s
[17:12] <yo_mama> I get 1.1 MB/s
[17:13] <yo_mama> bittorrent never gets full
[17:13] <yo_mama> the more users the faster it gets
[17:13] <zleap> phillw, ok
[17:13] <n-iCe> 1'm now
[17:13] <n-iCe> 10m now
[17:26] <n-iCe> done
[17:49] <hpuser4466> When switching desktops using the mouse wheel, the desktop icons remain the same.  How do I make the icons change like switching screens on android?
[17:50] <n-iCe> Well, I think that's useful
[17:51] <hpuser4466> Each desktop should have their own desktop icon layout.
[17:52] <n-iCe> yeah
[17:53] <hpuser4466> Since icons are stored in ~/Desktop   It should be a matter of assigning a seperate Desktop folder for each desktop.
[17:55] <hpuser4466> Possibly add a fix to the desktop switching script to change ~/Desktop folders
[17:56] <hpuser4466> and do a refresh of the desktop.
[17:56] <hpuser4466> I think I answered my own question  ;- )
[18:01] <hpuser4466> Actually, pcmanfm should have a desktop icon layout configuration file which could be switched.
[18:02] <hpuser4466> (since pcmanfm controlls the wallpaper & icon arrangement right?)
[18:04] <hpuser4466> egad. I think i got it..
[18:20] <hpuser4466> Has anyone made a "fix" to cause LXDE to switch screens like android.   I could code this myself (after some research) but it someone has already done it...(let me know)...
[19:37] <Atum_> Hey guys, I downloaded Lubuntu 13.04 x64 and I'm having issues with the internet connection
[19:37] <Atum_> I plugged the ethernet cable and it doesnt recognize. I was using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and everything seems to work fine
[19:38] <Atum_> I tried using the wi-fi, but it doesn't work.
[19:40] <hpuser4466> Atum..could be missing drivers (worst case senario) or maybe start your network manually via the console.
[19:41] <hpuser4466> Something like:   dhclient eth0
[19:41] <Atum_> hmm I'll try this command
[19:41] <Atum_> It was weird because I was using ubuntu 12.04 just fine...
[19:42] <hpuser4466> Had that happen occasionally and had to manually start my internet
[19:47] <Atum_> well, the command thing doesn't work
[19:48] <Atum_> any idea how to proceed?
[19:48] <hpuser4466> oh shoot.. to cover myself i said "something like that"  ;- )
[19:48] <Atum_> It says: "File already exists", and still no connection
[19:49] <Atum_> so, missing drivers?
[19:49] <hpuser4466> will i had zero luck with my wifi recently..must have been a missing driver
[19:50] <Atum_> Is there any package with those drivers? or should I lookup at the manufactor website?
[19:50] <hpuser4466> what's your network chipset?   If you know the chipset then you can manually load the driver with modprobe -r  and try again.
[19:51] <Atum_> Hm, I'm not sure what is my chipset
[19:51] <Atum_> I guess its and Atheros
[19:52] <hpuser4466> lspci | grep Network
[19:52] <Atum_> I'll check it out
[19:52] <Atum_> thanks dude
[19:52] <hpuser4466> then check the output of:  lsmod
[19:52] <Atum_> sorry for bothering
[19:52] <hpuser4466> it's ok
[19:54] <Atum_> hm, Atheros AR9485, What should I be looking at "lspci | grep Network"?
[19:55] <hpuser4466> just a moment..I don't want to get too far ahead of myself...
[19:55] <hpuser4466> I'm checking something..
[19:55] <Atum_> aight
[19:56] <hpuser4466> I'm booting my second pc to check
[19:56] <Atum_> Ok, thanks dude :)
[19:59] <hpuser4466> try this again:
[19:59] <hpuser4466> sudo dhclient eth0
[19:59] <hpuser4466> it worked for me to start my internet.
[20:00] <Atum_> I need the ethernet cable to be connected, right?
[20:00] <hpuser4466> yes
[20:00] <hpuser4466> ps..that's a ZERO in eth0.
[20:01] <Atum_> ya get it
[20:01] <Atum_> RNETLINK answers: File exists
[20:01] <Atum_> still no connection
[20:01] <hpuser4466> go to your network icon and disconnect your network
[20:02] <Atum_> o
[20:02] <Atum_> ok*
[20:02] <Atum_> try again?
[20:02] <hpuser4466> in the taskbar:  enable networking    <<disable it.
[20:02] <hpuser4466> try again..
[21:30] <sonofzeus> Hi there
[21:31] <sonofzeus> Whats the command to check my lubuntu version?
[21:31] <sonofzeus> its 3 am here so really need help asap, thanks.
[21:32] <SonikkuAmerica> [ lsb_release -a ]
[21:32] <sonofzeus> [ lsb_release -a ] without the [] right?
[21:34] <sonofzeus> Hello sonikku you on m8?
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> MATE? Me? No!
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> "Help!" /quit
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> antiroach: I doubt that's possible...
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> It could be if you run another X server in tty8 though...
[22:18] <antiroach> SonikkuAmerica: yea i tried, x just shit itself when it tried to load the 2nd driver
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !language | If you don't mind
[22:18] <antiroach> SonikkuAmerica: ohhhhhhhhh
[22:19] <antiroach> SonikkuAmerica: sorry about the language
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> (the default is tty7)
[22:19] <antiroach> SonikkuAmerica: would you be able to direct me somewhere that could help me set that up?
[22:22] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[22:25] <SonikkuAmerica> antiroach: Try [ startx -- :8 ]
[22:25] <antiroach> SonikkuAmerica: ok, but wouldnt that just use the same xorg.conf file?
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> It might...
[22:27] <LogicallyDashing> so, the release upgrade seems to have gone alright, login prompt displays 13.04, but it's still informing me there's a new release available, and suggesting I run 'do-release-upgrade'
[22:28] <LogicallyDashing> I'm pretty sure I can just ignore this?
[22:29] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: HMM, there is a possible 'zero day bug'...
[22:29] <phillw> I've only been told about it in the last 20 minutes,
[22:29] <antiroach> SonikkuAmerica: seems like it to me :|
[22:30] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: can you open a terminal session and run
[22:30] <phillw> /usr/bin/python3 /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> You can write a new xorg.conf to switch between...
[22:30] <phillw> Then reboot and see if it okay (it will open a window telling you there is a new upgrade, which you can close).
[22:31] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: it's inconvenient to get a gui, could you gimme a strictly just a command line command line?
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[22:31] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: oh, wel if i don't have to interact with the command line in any way
[22:31] <LogicallyDashing> i mean
[22:31] <LogicallyDashing> ugh
[22:31] <LogicallyDashing> if i can just leave the window
[22:32] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: /usr/bin/python3 /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk
[22:32] <phillw> just copy and paste that into a CLI window (LxTerminal).
[22:32] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: i'm sayin' i'm accessing this machine over ssh. but, command seems to be working anyway
[22:33] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: it gives me Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[22:33] <LogicallyDashing> that might be to do with lack of $DISPLAY, checkin'
[22:34] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: okies, I'll let brian do a bit more digging. I did a couple of commands for him while he was getting a 12.10 lubuntu iso to play with.
[22:34] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: I'm using check-new-release with no -gtk on the end, that ok?
[22:34] <LogicallyDashing> "No release found" good
[22:35] <phillw> no, it needs the -gtk at the end :)
[22:35] <LogicallyDashing> hrmph
[22:35] <LogicallyDashing> well, look, JUST FOR YOU i'll walk over to the physical machine
[22:35] <phillw> but, if you are not using ssh -X GUI's will not work :P
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Ahhh... back.
[22:39] <LogicallyDashing> ** (check-new-release-gtk:4353): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-Rt8Hm7kkdA: Connection refused
[22:39] <LogicallyDashing> WARNING:root:timeout reached, exiting
[22:40] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: okies, thanks for your help. I'll wait to see what Brian finds.
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> LogicallyDashing: Do you require authenticaisohtoeh-whatever it's called?
[22:40] <LogicallyDashing> And then it asks for my password so it can run cat as root. *cat*.
[22:40] <LogicallyDashing> SonikkuAmerica: I have no idea what you're talking about
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> LogicallyDashing: Simple - just run "dog."
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Authentication. Blech.sdf
[22:41] <LogicallyDashing> (I didn't enter my password)
[22:41] <phillw> hmm, I ran it as normal user. but real machines are always slightly different to VM's
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Not the [sudo] password...
[22:41] <LogicallyDashing> the machine is an old-ass eeePC 900 with a Celeron
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !lang
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> uage
[22:42] <LogicallyDashing> I didn't use sudo, no
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> You normally don't have to for [ do-release-upgrade ], it does it for you.
[22:42] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: if you see the upgrade is available again, please raise a bug.
[22:42] <LogicallyDashing> ok phillw
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: I don't raise bugs, but I do have a dog and a couple of cats :)
[22:44] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: oh, just by the way... did you run sudo apt-get update before you ran the do-release command?
[22:49] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: nope! trying
[22:50] <phillw> the bug you saw, is not the bug that is being investigated. If it now says you have 13.04
[22:50] <phillw> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:50] <phillw> and see what that gives you.
[22:51] <LogicallyDashing> mysql needs upgradin'
[22:51] <LogicallyDashing> here it go
[22:53] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: yeah, same behavior on login
[22:54] <phillw> run the
[22:54] <phillw> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[22:54] <phillw> again
[22:57] <LogicallyDashing> phillw: No new release found
[22:58] <phillw> yet after a reboot, it says there is?
[22:58] <LogicallyDashing> it says 13.04 is available, after it *just* told me that's the version it is *running*
[22:58] <LogicallyDashing> I'll reboot again if you want
[22:59] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: thanks, I'll have to ask on this...
[22:59] <LogicallyDashing> no prob
[23:01] <LogicallyDashing> At least it didn't ask me to give it root for cat this time
[23:01] <LogicallyDashing> That may be unrelated
[23:02] <phillw> Brian did ask me to let him know if it still happened after we tried that. I'm not sure how fast he will get back to me, the release team are all getting pretty tired now
[23:06] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: please issue
[23:06] <phillw>  lsb_release -a
[23:09] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: say hi to bdmurray and can you firstly paste back what
[23:09] <phillw> lsb_release -a
[23:09] <phillw> gives you
[23:18] <LogicallyDashing> No LSB modules are available.
[23:18] <LogicallyDashing> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[23:18] <LogicallyDashing> Description:    Ubuntu 13.04
[23:18] <LogicallyDashing> Codename:       raring
[23:19] <LogicallyDashing> I'll work out how to copy multiple lines at once in tmux someday
[23:19] <LogicallyDashing> p.s. hi bdmurray
[23:19] <phillw> !paste | LogicallyDashing
[23:19] <LogicallyDashing> um
[23:19] <bdmurray> Hi, which command is showing you a new release available?
[23:20] <LogicallyDashing> bdmurray: none of them! I only see it when I log in via ssh
[23:20] <bdmurray> ah
[23:21] <LogicallyDashing> it doesn't seem to actually DO anything, so I'm not really WORRIED, but, bug
[23:22] <bdmurray> I know the answer just trying to find it
[23:22] <phillw> :)
[23:24] <bdmurray> the file /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available determines whether or not that appears
[23:24] <LogicallyDashing> i can just remove it?
[23:25] <LogicallyDashing> gone
[23:25] <LogicallyDashing> checking
[23:25] <LogicallyDashing> fixed
[23:25] <LogicallyDashing> thanks bdmurray
[23:31] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: I've never seen that one before! kudos to Brian.... Heck, they're good :D
[23:38] <phillw> LogicallyDashing: I'll go looking to see if it is a known bug after I've had some sleep. I've pulled the logs of here and with Brian into a scratchpad. Do not worry, If I report / update any bug, it will not have your name on it and will be reported / updated by mine.
[23:44] <subman> I'm running 13.04 on a netbook and my touchpad seems to stop working at random times.  The only solution I've found is to power down the machine with the power button and then reboot.  There seems to be no regular time interval involved.  Completely random.  Is this a known bug?  I've never seen this on this machine in the past.
[23:47] <phillw> subman: Off the top of my head, as it is only 1st day of 13.04 out in the wild... Add in the  temp / CPU usage icon to your task bar and see if it is temperature realted?
[23:48] <phillw> "CPU Usage Monitor"
[23:49] <subman> phillw, the machine doesn't really freeze.  Programs continue to run.  I don't seem to be able to get the menu to come up or Alt-tab to another program, like an open terminal.
[23:50] <phillw> subman: Using that would, at least, rule out a temperature issue. Intermittent / random errors are hard to track down, but on smaller systems it can be a temprature problem.
[23:51] <subman> phillw, I get home tonight at around 9pm Eastern and I'll see what happens.
[23:52] <subman> phillw, the only problem might be if at the time it is temperature related and I cannot switch to the monitor to see what is going on at that time.
[23:53] <subman> phillw, maybe something like psensor would work with Lubuntu?  Will that program create 'temperature alerts/notifications' in Lubuntu?
[23:54] <phillw> I scatched my head for ages as to such a problem, and it was the occaisional tab opened on a 'not very well behaved' web site that would stress my CPU out. (Shockwave Flash sites). Now that I have the monitor, I can see any spike in cpu usage along with a fairly reliable report of CPU temperature.
[23:55] <phillw> subman: I use the old fashioned Mk1 eyeball :)
[23:55] <subman> Is there something that will display in the menu bar?
[23:56] <phillw> subman: yes.... "CPU Usage Monitor" :) Just add it. (mine is just to left of my clock, but you can place it where you like).
[23:56] <subman> I'm not running Lubuntu on this machine at the moment, that is another strange issue, but I'll try it at home tonight.
[23:57] <phillw> subman: let me just check to see if it needs adding :)
[23:58] <phillw> subman: it's part of the lxde suite (lubuntu)
[23:58] <subman> Excellent, I'll try that.
[23:58] <phillw> It's saved me a lot of grief!
[23:59] <subman> As for this machine here at work, I run quite a few desktop environments.  The original being Ubuntu 13.04.  When I installed Lubuntu on it it added a few entries to the login screen and now there are too many to be seen and no method of scrolling to see them!