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TheMusodarkxst: Is there any particular reason why the Ubuntu GNOME remix images load straight into the language/install boot menu, and not pause a little while like the Ubuntu images do?03:00
TheMusodarkxst: I would ask Jeremy, but he is not online atm.03:00
darkxstTheMuso, not sure, we don't actually touch any of the boot/installer stuff (apart from the ubiquity slideshow)03:01
darkxstso it should be the same as Ubuntu really03:02
TheMusodarkxst: Ok, well its not. If you were to boot a standard Ubuntu image, and then boot an Ubuntu GNOME image, you would notice that the Ubuntu iamge doesn't automatically bring up the language choice and the boot menu. There is a slight pause before the Ubuntu image boots directly into the try/install ubuntu ubiquity screen. If you were to press a key during this pause on the Ubuntu image, you would get what you get on the Ubuntu GNOME remix ima03:07
TheMusodarkxst: I'll talk to Jeremy about it when I see him online next.03:08
darkxstTheMuso, right, I see what you mean03:10
TheMusodarkxst: The only reason why I mention it, is because it has accessibility implications WRT the easse of installing with Orca et al.03:11
darkxstTheMuso, I will look into a bit later, but I guess its too late now to fix for the release03:20
TheMusodarkxst: Yeah unfortunately.03:29
pittiGood morning03:52
darkxstpitti, good morning03:57
darkxstpitti, any idea how I can get debug logs from g-s-d (on login)? its either not starting, or crashing04:02
pittistarting it from a shell doesn't crash?04:03
pittinormally you can start an xterm session, start gnome-session in one, and gnome-settings-daemon in another04:03
pittior killall gnome-settings-daemon; gnome-settings-daemon in a running session04:03
darkxstpitti, starting in a shell is fine04:03
pittiand nothing in .xsession-errors either, I presume?04:04
pittinormally output goes there04:04
darkxstno I don't see any output in there04:05
pittiif you want debugging, you need to run everything under G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all04:05
pittiyou could define that in /etc/environment temporarily, or in your ~/.profile04:05
pittibut at at least a warning or two usually appears in .xsession-errors04:06
pitti(gnome-settings-daemon:2280): color-plugin-WARNING **: There is no colord server available04:06
pittiI have that one at least04:06
pittidarkxst: a deeper hack: replace /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon with a shell script that does something like this:04:06
pittiG_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon.real "$@" > /tmp/gsd.log 2>&104:07
pitti(and rename the binary accordingly)04:07
darkxstpitti, oh its trying to connect to the shell dbus04:19
pittiand that isn't running yet?04:19
darkxstI am running it in unity right now04:19
pittibut it sounds like it should handle that gracefully04:20
darkxstand unity spoofs the dbus name "org.gnome.Shell"?04:20
darkxstpitti, (gnome-settings-daemon.real:1785): media-keys-plugin-WARNING **: 0: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag04:21
darkxstg_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Error sending message: Broken pipe (g-io-error-quark, 44). Exiting.04:21
pittiek, indeed04:21
darkxstpitti, something is triggering a SIGTERM, causing g-s-d to shutdown04:33
pittihm, could that be upstart? did you enable upstart sessions?04:34
darkxstpitti, I am using normal upstart configuration04:35
pittiwell, that hasn't been enabled by default yet04:35
pittican you try without and see if that makes any difference?04:35
darkxsthow do I disable that?04:36
pittidarkxst: I hear that ~/.cache/upstart/*.log should have logs then, do they show anythign interesting?04:36
pittihow did you enable it?04:36
* pitti looks for jodh's blog post04:36
darkxstpitti, I have not touched anything upstart04:36
pittiah, so you are not using session upstart then04:37
pittidarkxst: so perhaps try the debugging wrappers around gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon? perhaps session is killing it for some reason04:37
darkxstok will try04:43
darkxstpitti, nope, can't see anything interesting in the gnome-session logs04:53
darkxstricotz, hi05:46
murad13.04 is still not out ????06:37
mlankhorstcan I disable sudo mail somehow?06:43
sarnoldmlankhorst: a few guesses.. set mail_no_user off or set mailerpath to /bin/true or /bin/false06:47
mlankhorsthm found it, I think06:53
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mlankhorstsame for the other mail flags06:53
jibelgood morning07:03
didrockssalut jibel! ça va? pas trop le dos cassé avec le déménagement?07:08
jibelSalut didrocks! Etonnamment j'ai le dos entier, merci :)07:11
jibelbien content que ce soit terminé07:11
didrocksj'imagine :)07:12
didrocksça s'est bien passé?07:12
jibeldidrocks, oui parfait. Il reste à tout déballer si je veux pouvoir m'habiller ;)07:18
didrocksahah, /me reminds himself to not do any hangout with jibel today :p07:19
seb128hey desktopers07:29
didrockshappy release day seb128!07:31
seb128oh, right07:31
seb128didrocks, happy raring day ;-)07:31
BigWhaleI feel very raring today!07:34
pittibonjour seb128, ça va !07:34
seb128hey BigWhale07:35
pittisalut didrocks07:35
didrockshey pitti!07:35
seb128pitti, salut, oui, il fait beau ici, et toi ?07:35
pittiseb128: ici aussi, il y a soleil !07:35
pittile temps parfait pour le release :)07:36
seb128oui ;-)07:36
BigWhalehey seb. :)07:36
BigWhaleand the rest of the gang :)07:36
pittididrocks: veux-tu courier à nouveau la semaine prochaine ?07:36
* pitti waves to BigWhale07:36
didrockspitti: avec joie! J'espère que tu traineras seb128 pour qu'il vienne avec nous :)07:36
didrockspitti: je trainerai larsu aussi ;)07:37
pittididrocks: (ou est-il "à la semaine../au semaine" ?)07:37
seb128no way I go running in Oakland07:37
BigWhaleI wish I had google translate plugin for xchat ... :>07:37
seb128I don't like running in city, less so in not so nice ones07:37
didrockspitti: c'était très bien: "veux-tu aller courrir à nouveau la semaine prochaine"07:37
didrocksseb128: there is a park07:37
seb128and crazy people yelling at you in the street? ;-)07:38
didrockswell, that's a small detail :)07:38
pittididrocks: ah, "aller courrier" est mieux ?07:38
didrockspitti: "aller courrir", oui :)07:38
didrockscourrier == mail07:38
pittiseb128: non, c'était bon -- beaucoup de gens le font07:39
seb128pitti, on verra, j'essayerai peut-être07:39
pittiviens avec nous!07:40
seb128Didier m'a dit que la gym a l'hotel n'est pas bien en plus07:40
pittiseb128: il va être facile07:40
seb128pitti, tu arrives à suivre Didier ? il s'entraîne tous les jours de l'année07:41
pittije ne vais pas courrier beaucoup07:41
pittiseb128: no, we run together; he's nice with me :)07:42
seb128let's try07:42
pitti"il est gentil avec moi" ?07:42
seb128vous arrivez tous les 2 le dimanche ?07:42
didrocksdimanche pour moi07:43
pittij'ai arriver à samedi soir07:43
seb128pitti, ah, moi aussi07:43
pittiseb128: ah, alors nous pouvons aller à San Francisco à dimanche ?07:44
* seb128 donne l'accolade à pitti07:44
* pitti tu donne une accolade en retour07:44
* pitti goes offline for a bit for some NM tests07:46
seb128good luck ;-)07:47
seb128Laney, good morning, happy raring day!08:08
* Laney starts spamming "is it out yet?" every hour08:09
darkxstLaney, 'spamming' would be every minute!08:09
seb128Laney, ok, you do that, and I will do the "is the new serie open yet?" ;-)08:10
xnoxTheMuso: good spot. Probably grub/isolinux timeout is not in, or very short with a black screen =)08:10
Laneyseb128: We probably need to know what it's called first :P08:11
Laneyo hai08:13
Laneymlankhorst: cycled 35 miles last night, got lost and had to get a train home08:13
mlankhorstI have a pick up service for that! :D08:14
darkxstLaney, don't you have a gps!08:14
Laneyonly for emergencies!08:14
LaneyI did know where I was going but the getting lost made me too late08:15
mlankhorstLaney: yeah he has a bus, I can just put the bike in the back and leave it standing there08:15
mlankhorstsometimes I do it the other way around too when he gets a flat tire08:16
darkxstmlankhorst, flat tire? what is that, I havent had one ever since running tubeless ;)08:17
mlankhorstdon't worry, I'm sure your bike will still have a failure mode08:17
darkxstmlankhorst, sure, and if that happens I will be walking, since not many roads where we ride08:18
Laneyyeah if it really came to it my cycle insurance includes pick up08:19
mlankhorstpsssh insurance for bikes08:19
darkxstLaney, helicopter pick up?08:19
* Laney does road cycling08:20
Laneymlankhorst: you need it if you live where i do :p08:20
mlankhorstI just made my bike look unattractive and valueless instead..08:21
darkxstmlankhorst, that doesnt always work, but atleast my bike always looks clean, since its the same colour as the mud!08:21
mlankhorstdarkxst: plus it looks unique enough that nobody dares to steal it :-)08:22
darkxstoh that wouldnt work here08:23
darkxstthe thieves here will steal it and try and sell it back to you!08:23
mlankhorstso lets say you have a street view like http://goo.gl/maps/5DQsv08:24
mlankhorstwould you steal a bike that looks like any other or the one that makes you stand out a lot?08:24
seb128xnox, what is the release-?-incoming tagged used for?08:30
seb128xnox, I don't see it listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags08:30
Laneyseb128: to get it on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-incoming-bug-tasks.html08:31
xnoxseb128: the intention is to end up on the rls-*-tracking report. as per Laney. But I sometimes fail to spell the tag correctly.08:33
seb128Laney, xnox: thanks, I had almost forgotten about that tracker08:34
Laneyoh you actually did 'release-'08:34
xnoxLaney: please correct the spelling to the right one =) i did ping bmurray to add those as official tags with auto-complete.08:35
Laneyno idea how that stuff works08:35
darkxstpitti, any idea how I can get gdb attached to gnome-settings-daemon at login?08:40
seb128what are you trying to get?08:41
seb128why do you need attached at login?08:41
darkxstseb128, gnome-settings-daemon 3.8 dies on login when running unity08:41
darkxstbut runs perfectly after logged in08:41
seb128but apport doesn't give you a dump you can use gdb on?08:41
darkxstseb128, nope, seems that g-s-d is shutting itself down08:41
seb128if it does, gdb will not help you08:42
darkxstseb128,  g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting.08:42
darkxstseb128, there is a SIGTERM signal atleast when running from gdm08:42
seb128darkxst, do you get the issue if you run g-s-d in an empty session?08:43
seb128Xephyr :108:43
seb128DISPLAY=:1 gnome-settings-daemon08:43
seb128with dbus-launch in front if needed08:43
seb128it might be a "start before gnome-session" or something08:43
pittidarkxst: you could extend you debug wrapper to run xterm -e gdb ... g-s-d ?08:45
darkxstI have never used Xephyr but it just gives me an empty window08:45
pittidarkxst: are you sure that g-s-d is shutting *itself* down?08:45
pittidarkxst: I thought you said something sent it a SIGTERM?08:45
darkxstpitti, SIGTERM is only when launching from gdm08:46
pittidarkxst: right, if you start Xephyr you just get an "empty" X server, you have to run stuff in it08:47
darkxstok a few warnings but otherwise fine08:48
seb128ok, so it's not a "it needs other components to be ready when they are not"08:49
darkxstapparently not, but something is causing it too shutdown08:55
darkxstI can install the 3.6 ck built g-s-d and it survives login just fine (even though I am running logind)08:56
Laneydarkxst: what version of gsd are you using?09:04
LaneyI just dist-upgraded to gnome3 and gnome3-staging in a VM and I can still get unity09:04
darkxstLaney, 3.7.91 (and 3.8.1)09:04
darkxstyou will get unity, but gsd is dead by the time you are logged in09:05
darkxstso I added xterm to my debug wrapper, but it only shows up before the gdm session,09:07
darkxstshould the same gsd instance persist or does it get respawned on login?09:11
pittieach session has its own gsd09:11
darkxstthat is what I thought09:11
darkxstoh it comes up when I logout ;(09:12
pittidarkxst: I guess you need similar debug logs for gnome-session to determine if and when it starts g-s-d09:12
seb128could it be that the gdm one doesn't exit and is running on the same display or something?09:12
ogra_dont install logind backwards :)09:12
darkxstseb128, maybe its just at the back of the stack and not visible09:14
* ogra_ guesses what you see going down and starting up is the DM g-s-d 09:14
ogra_check which user owns the process09:14
seb128ogra_, do you run gdm?09:15
seb128darkxst, does it happen if you start the session with startx?09:15
darkxstseb128, right now startx fails to load the session09:22
darkxstX is running though09:22
seb128have an .xinitrc with "exec gnome-session" or similar?09:23
darkxstseb128, do now, all I get is keyring prompt09:27
darkxstseb128, I can only start gnome session with startx not ubuntu session09:40
seb128pitti, did we end up having a flag or something in the apport reports that tell us if the issue happened in a session which is not the current one?09:57
seb128pitti, I'm looking at https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/8198ebba906a1181a84ed08ff814f54c7c737ea3 (udisks2 segfault)09:57
seb128pitti, on the corresponding launchpad bug you asked by then if the error was displayed on login09:57
pittiseb128: for programs that run in the session we get XsessionErrors if the program that crashed and apport are running in the same session09:58
pittifor daemons we won't, as something like udisks has no idea about user sessions09:58
seb128the comments suggest it's happening a login but also sometimes after trying to mount devices09:59
pittiI keep getting dupes of that, but I never could reproduce it (and I tried for an hour or so)09:59
seb128pitti, it's still ranked quite high on e.u.c for raring09:59
seb128it's n°25 of raring errors for the last 10 days09:59
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darkxstseb128, anyway I am basically over this for today, I think my patch fixes the media key issues under unity (i.e reverts the legacy key grabber for unity). see gsd package here https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/logind11:54
darkxstseb128, probably would be better to move that all into a seperate module, in the long term if you plan to leave it in gsd11:55
seb128darkxst, great11:56
seb128we probably wont keep it in g-s-d longer than for the next lts11:56
seb128unity-next will probably handle keybindings like gnome-shell does for GNOME11:56
darkxstyes that makes more sense, gnome-shell has a lot issues with special key grabs previously11:57
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desrtseb128: hey12:37
desrtgood morning12:37
seb128desrt, hey, how are you?12:37
desrtseb128: i noticed you postponed some of my workitems12:37
seb128desrt, right, raring has been released12:37
desrtseb128: i was wondering if there is some search interface that lets me find all blueprints with my name on them for work items12:37
desrtbecause i had completely lost track of those items12:38
seb128desrt, https://launchpad.net/~desrt/+upcomingwork12:38
pitti^ note that this won't show WIs for past milestones12:38
desrtthanks :)12:38
pittihttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/u/desrt.html for that12:38
seb128right, pitti beat me to it12:38
pittiI have +upcomingwork as my first firefox tab, it's a great todo list12:39
seb128desrt, if you remember, I got you added to some team last cycle so you would have that status.ubuntu.com page :p12:39
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kenvandinehappy release day!13:20
BigWhalekenvandine, same to you! :)13:22
seb128kenvandine, good morning, happy raring day to you !13:25
kenvandinei'm raring to go~13:26
didrockshey kenvandine, happy release day!13:29
didrockskenvandine: you reverted a lot of changes from cyphermox it seems, did you refresh before editing the blueprint?13:34
kenvandineoh sigh... i didn't13:34
kenvandinesilly website...13:34
didrockskenvandine: do you have the email to reconcile? :)13:34
cyphermoxkenvandine: sorry, I didn't know you were editing it too :)13:34
cyphermoxdoesn't matter, I'll go back and re-do any changes13:34
didrocksthanks cyphermox :)13:35
kenvandinecyphermox, sorry... :)13:35
cyphermoxthat's the components thingy blueprint right?13:35
kenvandinei wonder how many times i've done that to people13:35
kenvandinei never considered needing to refresh the page :)13:35
kenvandinecyphermox, yes13:35
kenvandineamazing... after living with evolution crashing hourly for months... i used geary all week without a single crash13:37
* kenvandine is happy13:37
cyphermoxcan we fix evolution? how is it crashing?13:37
cyphermoxdidrocks: speaking of the the same blueprint, isn't the icons merging done?13:37
kenvandinecyphermox, i don't recall the bug #, but the crash i was getting matched a bug that was like 2 years old13:38
desrtmirrors are having a rough day :)13:38
kenvandinedesrt, happy release day!13:39
desrtkenvandine: same to you :)13:39
kenvandinei'm happy launchpad seems to handle it better these days13:39
kenvandinei remember jaunty, i couldn't do anything on launchpad all day13:39
didrockscyphermox: it should be yeah13:40
mlankhorsttkamppeter: I posted instructions on how to valgrind xserver on the bug13:42
czajkowskikenvandine: be nice to lP :)13:43
kenvandineczajkowski, i am... it works on release day now :)13:44
kenvandineit didn't back then13:44
attenteseb128, hey, is there anything that needs to be done to revert that commit to fix the libreoffice bug?13:49
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have seen the instruction. Do I nbeed to install all 30+ -dbg packages of X or only the ones concerning my hardware?14:13
mlankhorstevdev-dbg, synaptics-dbg, libdrm*dbg and your video driver debug is usually enough14:14
tkamppetermlankhorst, all set now. I have installed all -dbg packages you asked for, installed the script and linked it, and finally restarted lightdm, which came up much slower now.14:24
mlankhorstwell if it crashes you should have a full valgrind log at least14:25
tkamppetermlankhorst, from now on I will attch the log file to the bug report whenever a crash happens.14:25
tkamppetermlankhorst, but there is one problem: When a crash happened X gets automatically restarted (I get the lightdm screen). Will this not delete the log?14:26
mlankhorstit's appending, rather than overwriting14:26
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tkamppetermlankhorst, thanks, and how do I proceed if X gets stuck but does not crash? "sudo stop lightdm", grab log and attach to bug, "sudo start lightdm"? Or is the log useless when there was no crash?14:29
mlankhorstjust send a killall Xorg :p14:30
mlankhorstyou can use a debugger with valgrind too, but it's a bit more effort to set up14:31
mlankhorstanyway I guess you mean the touch being stuck? not much you can do about that14:31
mlankhorstonly documenting how you got it stuck would be helpful14:31
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tkamppetermlankhorst, onboard stopped working since I am running under Valgrind.14:50
mlankhorstmm, any useful warnings in valgrind¿14:50
tkamppetermlankhorst, the Valgrind log so far is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601259/14:56
mlankhorstsigh intel doesn't have valgrind enabled, nothing harmful  then :/14:56
seb128attente, hey14:57
seb128attente, do you agree the revert is right?14:57
seb128attente, just filing a merge request against lp:unity/7.0 (that's the raring serie), can you do it?14:57
mlankhorsttkamppeter: only thing sort of useful is that activatekeyboardgrab/pointergrab, but it looks like libunwind info is missing there14:58
attenteseb128, the revert is correct14:59
rickspencer3seb128, jasoncwarner, everyone ...14:59
rickspencer3congrats on 13.0414:59
attenteok, will file14:59
rickspencer3It's my favorite Ubuntu yet14:59
seb128rickspencer3, thanks ;-)15:00
seb128attente, ok, thanks15:00
tkamppetermlankhorst, do I need to install a dbg package of libunwind?15:01
mlankhorstit was supposed to give a perttier backtrace15:02
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tkamppetermlankhorst, Now I have installed libunwind8-dbg and restarted lightdm, now onboard works.15:06
mlankhorsttkamppeter: it doesn't matter, the backtrace suggested that you were hitting the same bug I was hitting..15:07
tkamppeterUpdated Valgrind log attached to the bug report.15:09
mlankhorsttkamppeter: valgrind logs are not going to be useful, except for crashes15:10
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have added some more comments to the bug report.15:35
steve_fiis there any outstanding issues with the nvidia-310 proprietary drivers that would cause me to use acpi=off at boot time?15:42
steve_fiand sorry, I forgot to include on 13.0415:43
seb128tedg, Laney: you guys are familiar with libproxy? do you know why it spawn those shell processes to run pxgsettings and why those processes keep running?16:06
tedgseb128, No, I'm not.  I was just noticing that thread.16:07
Laneyseb128: No, seems weird. I've got quite a few too16:08
LaneyWe should look into why they don't get closed16:10
Laneymmm, yeah, it appers to be some constantly running thing to notify clients of changes16:14
Laneyseb128: we could probably rewrite this to be a dbus service if necessary?16:18
Laneyseems pxgsettings is currently c/glib so it might not be too hard16:20
Laneywant to WI me for it?16:20
seb128hum, got disconnected, I was saying16:24
seb128Laney, tedg: ok, I wanted to check if you knew about it before looking, let me have a look16:24
stgraberseb128: Laney volunteered ;)16:24
seb128did he?16:24
stgraber16:20 < Laney> seems pxgsettings is currently c/glib so it might not be too hard16:24
seb128Laney, thanks! ;-)16:24
stgraber16:20 < Laney> want to WI me for it?16:24
seb128Laney, do you think you have the time this week?16:25
Laney*this* week?16:25
seb128Laney, if not I might have a look to it in the plane saturday16:25
Laneyoh, to investigate?16:25
Laneywell I kind of understand what it does16:25
seb128I'm letting it for you16:25
Laneyif you just run the pxgsettings thing you have running on your system you can see16:25
Laneyit watches for changes and outputs them onto stdout16:25
Laneyand then libproxy reads those and presumably relays it to its clients16:26
seb128it just seemed a good offline/flight hack, but I've other stuff to keep me busy so no worry ;-)16:26
seb128that seems hackish16:26
LaneySeems like you could replace that with a dbus service16:26
seb128yeah, that would be nicer16:26
stgraberlibrary that spawns shell that calls C binary that opens other file which can be accessed over DBus, nah, not hackish at all ;)16:27
Laneyhey, maybe they've got a good reason ...16:28
* Laney runs16:28
stgrabermaybe ;)16:28
seb128I start understanding why Josselin hates libproxy :p16:28
LaneyIIRC glib-networking even falls back to libproxy these days if it needs to16:29
Laneyso maybe most gnome stuff doesn't need to use libproxy explicitly16:30
Laneyseb128: see glib-networking/proxy/gnome/gproxyresolvergnome.c:30716:31
Laneystatic gboolean16:31
Laneyg_proxy_resolver_gnome_is_supported (GProxyResolver *object)16:31
Laney{ return !g_strcmp0 (g_getenv ("DESKTOP_SESSION"), "gnome");16:31
seb128Laney, we should archive grep for "DESKTOP_SESSION"16:32
seb128libproxy/modules/config_gnome3.cpp:&& string(getenv("DESKTOP_SESSION")) == "gnome"));16:32
seb128similar issue16:33
Laneywell, that one checks for GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID in preference which means we're ok16:33
Laneybut AFAICT that glib-networking check is why it's falling back to libproxy and therefore pxgsettings16:33
* Laney test builds one with it fixed16:33
seb128what would it use if that was not libproxy?16:34
Laneyreads it directly from gsettings i think16:34
seb128Laney, you are right, that seems to fix it ;-)16:44
seb128Laney, do you know why glib-networking build-conflicts on itself? (that's annoying)16:44
Laneyno idea, maybe the testsuite?16:45
seb128  * Add build-conflict about glib-networking itself (fails the test16:45
seb128    suite).16:45
Laneythink we should SRU this?16:45
seb128Laney, do you want me to open a bug?16:45
seb128Laney, yes please16:45
Laneyseems like it was introduced in 2.35.3 which explains why it's new16:46
Laney  * proxy/gnome: This is now only used in GNOME login sessions (as,16:46
Laney    essentially, a more efficient version of the libproxy GNOME16:46
Laney    backend); in non-GNOME sessions, gio will now fall back to the16:46
Laney    libproxy plugin,16:46
Laneyseb128: I still see them coming from signon{d,ui} though - do you?16:49
seb128Laney, I didn't restart those services, but they might use libproxy directly?16:49
Laneythey do16:49
seb128Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib-networking/+bug/117279216:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 1172792 in glib-networking (Ubuntu) "should use the direct proxy resolver in unity sessions" [Undecided,New]16:54
seb128Laney, I've added SRU infos, I will let you deal with the patch/upload/upstreaming?16:54
seb128not sure why they want to limit gsettings use to GNOME16:55
Laneywill do - but tomorrow morning or later tonight :-)16:56
seb128Laney, no hurry, it's rather minor16:58
seb128it doesn't break anything16:58
seb128Laney, I did a quick follow up on the list as well17:00
Laneygreat, cheers17:00
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Laneyoff climbing - see you tomorrow!17:11
seb128Laney, have fun!17:12
ogra_dont fall !17:14
tkamppetermlankhorst, I got X crashing! log is attached to the bug report.17:23
* didrocks waves good evening17:42
tkamppetermlankhorst, I can reproduce the X crash now, see the bug report.19:29
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* thumper wonders why he still has no sync indicator and no global menus22:18
thumperlastest raring updates applied this morning22:18
jcastro ubuntu-desktop installed?22:21
thumperI think so, let me double check22:22
thumperI know I have indicator-sync installed22:22
thumperbut just not showing22:22
thumperjcastro: yep, 1.29922:22

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