| AdonisK | Hey guyz, will ubuntu Gnome be released the same time as ubuntu? | 01:02 |
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| darkxst | yes | 01:03 |
| darkxst | jbicha, have the media keys working now, but notifications are screwed | 01:11 |
| FearNotMan | Has anyone had any issues with 13.04 not seeing the mouse and keyboard? My bootup gets past grub and then I can't use the mouse or keyboard. It's definitely the install because mouse and keyboard and USB ports all work great under 12.10 | 01:18 |
| FearNotMan | Tried reinstalling a few times, no change | 01:18 |
| darkxst | FearNotMan, does the kernel see the keyboard? ie can you switch to a VT ok? | 01:23 |
| darkxst | jbicha, actually notifications work on one system. | 01:34 |
| FearNotMan | darkxst, sorry for the delay. no switching to a VT didn't work, so I don't think the kernel was seeing the keyboard. | 01:55 |
| darkxst | FearNotMan, try with a normal ubuntu image, and if that still doesnt work file a bug | 01:55 |
| FearNotMan | darkxst, ok will do. Thanks! | 01:56 |
| darkxst | ricotz, did you ever test g-s-d with unity? | 05:47 |
| Ponch0 | hey gnomies, is there an issue with the shut down button with a recent update or did I bring this on myself? | 05:48 |
| darkxst | Ponch0, should be fixed with systemd in staging | 05:51 |
| Ponch0 | darkxst: Hey hru? Ok, I've been shutting down with command line, i'll check it out later. | 05:52 |
| Ponch0 | I didn't have that issue til about 2 days ago | 05:52 |
| darkxst | Ponch0, was fallout from logind | 05:52 |
| Ponch0 | oh ok thanks a bunch | 05:53 |
| ricotz | darkxst, i think i did once | 05:55 |
| darkxst | ricotz, .91 is totally broken, crashes (well shutdowns during startup) | 05:56 |
| darkxst | runs fine if I start it after logged in though ;( | 05:57 |
| ricotz | darkxst, was that before the logind stuff? | 05:57 |
| darkxst | ricotz, I didnt test it before logind | 05:58 |
| ricotz | i see, i will give it a try in a moment | 06:00 |
| Ponch0 | and ubuntu software center is a hit or miss still crashes for the most part | 06:00 |
| Ponch0 | "with SIGGSEV | 06:02 |
| Ponch0 | "SIGSEGV" | 06:02 |
| Ponch0 | 42 days now silly software center | 06:04 |
| darkxst | ricotz, g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting. | 06:06 |
| darkxst | ricotz, still crashes when built against ck, so proably not logind related since 3.6 runs fine | 06:26 |
| ricotz | darkxst, at least downgrade dbus too if you havent | 06:28 |
| apm1 | the release will happen at what time today ? | 06:36 |
| darkxst | later! | 06:40 |
| Ponch0 | woot woot | 06:40 |
| Ponch0 | champagne | 06:41 |
| apm1 | not just yet ? | 06:41 |
| apm1 | i think we still have a few hours to go | 06:41 |
| darkxst | apm1, you can just grab the last daily if your impatient, wont be changing now | 06:42 |
| apm1 | darkxst, i just heard someone the installer on it is borked ? | 06:42 |
| darkxst | apm1, the "install alongside" bug might not have been fixed, not sure though | 06:43 |
| apm1 | i am gonna do a clean install so | 06:44 |
| apm1 | maybe i'll just supress the urge and wit a few hours :p | 06:44 |
| apm1 | *wait | 06:45 |
| darkxst | ok | 06:45 |
| darkxst | ricotz, I'm really out of ideas here, media keys should be fixed atleast (in my logind ppa). But no idea what is causing the crash on startup | 07:20 |
| darkxst | sgo11, for the shutdown bug syslog should have the answers | 07:45 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, /var/log/syslog ? I will shutdown my machine with poweroff button today and check the log to see what will happen. I haven't used poweroff button for a long time since I have this issue. thanks a lot. | 07:47 |
| darkxst | yeh | 07:52 |
| ricotz | darkxst, media keys worked and working fine | 07:59 |
| ricotz | ah i guess you meant with unity | 08:00 |
| darkxst | ricotz, yes with unity | 08:00 |
| darkxst | they should be really broken with .91 | 08:01 |
| darkxst | probably havent worked since .90 | 08:01 |
| darkxst | I reverted the legacy key grabber, but only for unity | 08:03 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, hi, I just reproduced the "can not shutdown with poweroff button" problem. can you please help me with that if you have time? thanks. The last msg I can find in syslog before this boot is "umount.ecryptfs_private: Failed to find key with sig [070acce8e67778227]: Apr 25 17:03:" Then I long press the "physical power button" to force shutdown. | 09:27 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, does this mean umount.ecryptfs_private cause this problem? should I check some other lines in syslog? thanks. | 09:28 |
| darkxst | possible, but sorry I no idea about that, your best bet would be to file a bug | 09:30 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, ok. thanks a lot. :) | 09:30 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, where can I file this bug? Is this related to ubuntu or gnome-shell? thanks. | 09:31 |
| darkxst | ubuntu | 09:31 |
| darkxst | probably kernel, so 'ubuntu-bug linux' | 09:32 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, ok. thanks. :) | 09:33 |
| sgo11 | filed the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1172650 | 09:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1172650 in linux (Ubuntu) "System can not be powered off (randomly)" [Undecided,New] | 09:58 |
| darkxst | sgo11, you probably should attach full syslog to the report | 10:15 |
| sgo11 | darkxst, ok. got it. will do that. | 10:17 |
| darkxst | apport should pick that stuff up, but apparently not in this case | 10:17 |
| SmarteX | hellp | 10:34 |
| SmarteX | heelo | 10:34 |
| SmarteX | *hello | 10:34 |
| SmarteX | no1 chattin? | 10:34 |
| Andy80 | hi | 11:37 |
| Andy80 | once I've Ubuntu 13.04 installed. What is the correct procedure to switch to Gnome desktop? I've found one but it's not updated (it refers to 12.04) | 11:38 |
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| tommie-lie | Andy80: install ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 11:39 |
| Andy80 | tommie-lie, no other packages needed? | 11:42 |
| tommie-lie | Andy80: yes, but ubuntu-gnome-desktop depends on them, so they are puled in automatically | 11:44 |
| tommie-lie | Andy80: but note that some Gnome applications are missing from ubuntu-gnome's default (I think gnumeric, abiword and Epiphany/Gnome Internet, which are replaced by LibreOffice and Firefox, respectively), if you also want them, you'll have to install them manually | 11:46 |
| tommie-lie | Andy80: e.g. by installing epiphany-browser | 11:47 |
| Andy80 | tommie-lie, oh, no problem for them... I just want to replace Unity :) | 11:47 |
| camelinahat | morning | 12:13 |
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| camelinahat | Heh apparently on the derivatives page (http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives) we're just listed as GNOME (not Ubuntu GNOME) | 12:14 |
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| jbicha | camelinahat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+filebug :) | 12:16 |
| camelinahat | filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1172688 | 12:19 |
| ubot5 | Error: launchpad bug 1172688 not found | 12:19 |
| camelinahat | (show's private) | 12:19 |
| camelinahat | Do we have any release notes for this release? | 12:21 |
| darkxst | jbicha, so I fixed the media keys, but gsd is just really broken in a unity session | 12:21 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: just what people have added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes | 12:22 |
| darkxst | jbicha, broken as in it dies on login, I cannot work out why | 12:25 |
| darkxst | this applies equally to .91 | 12:25 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-gnome to: Ubuntu GNOME Development & Support | Our first official release, 13.04 has been released! Download from http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | http://ubuntugnome.org/community/ | ||
| mgedmin | cool, 13.04 is out already?! | 12:27 |
| jbicha | darkxst: ok, that explains why the theming was broken on Unity then | 12:27 |
| darkxst | jbicha, basically :) | 12:27 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-gnome to: Ubuntu GNOME Development & Support | Our first official release, 13.04 is available now! Download from http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | http://ubuntugnome.org/community/ | ||
| jbicha | camelinahat: I didn't write a release announcement this time yet but we probably should make one | 12:29 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, I'd be glad to help, do we have a previous one to use for reference/template? | 12:30 |
| jbicha | Kubuntu & Edubuntu's announcements are on Planet Ubuntu (but Kubuntu's it looks like you have to click through to see the whole thing) | 12:32 |
| jbicha | for 12.10 I just did https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/msg00050.html | 12:34 |
| darkxst | jbicha, really there should be a universal ban on dev's sending out these things ;) | 12:37 |
| camelinahat | darkxst, lol I'm not sure I'll be much better unfortunately haha | 12:40 |
| darkxst | camelinahat, sure you will! | 12:40 |
| jbicha | darkxst: :) | 12:40 |
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| Guest67129 | hi | 12:49 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, Should bug 1164592 be listed as a Known Issue? | 12:50 |
| ubot5 | bug 1164592 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity freezes in Install Alongside screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164592 | 12:50 |
| camelinahat | Oh nevermind. I see it in the Raring Ringtail release notes. | 12:50 |
| Guest67129 | any one nows how to build UBUNTU from source? | 12:51 |
| jbicha | I think the workaround for that is to use the advanced partitioner to resize the existing partition and a new ext4 / partition | 12:52 |
| jbicha | I see the Ubuntu release announcement pointed to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME | 12:55 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, Yeah I noticed that somewhere as well. Lots of locations to try to keep up to date. | 12:57 |
| jbicha | we could just clear that wiki page and point people to the website instead | 12:59 |
| darkxst | who the hell wrote the release notes? the last thing we need is | 13:00 |
| darkxst | "There are some additional GNOME 3.8 apps in the GNOME3 Staging PPA but these apps have known bugs, some of which are serious or critical bugs. " | 13:00 |
| camelinahat | darkxst, Not me. But to be honest I left the staging PPA out of the ones I'm working on at the moment. I did mention the primary gnome3 PPA but didn't reference staging at all (since it's discoverable on the gnome3 ppa but not necessarily 'standard' usage) | 13:02 |
| darkxst | camelinahat, that is from someone on the ubuntu team I guess, certainly not us | 13:02 |
| darkxst | or they just cut+paste shit from wherever who knows | 13:03 |
| camelinahat | Yep, that's why the 'Known issues' referencing Two sets of Online Accounts still shows the line "Hopefully for 13.04, we'll be able to use just one tool." | 13:04 |
| jbicha | darkxst: almost all of that stuff was written by me | 13:05 |
| jbicha | I'm happy to have other people do the writing ;) | 13:06 |
| jbicha | there, got rid of the hopefully line | 13:08 |
| jbicha | feel free to edit that page if you like | 13:08 |
| darkxst | jbicha, I don't think we should be advertising staging like that | 13:13 |
| darkxst | presumably a *lot* of people will read those release notes | 13:13 |
| jbicha | darkxst: on the other hand, a lot of people read websites that *do* mention staging without any caveats | 13:14 |
| jbicha | we could have a page on the website to talk about the PPAs instead | 13:15 |
| darkxst | jbicha, yes I know, a lot of people follow random instructions off blogs that involve 'sudo *' | 13:15 |
| camelinahat | Oh I agree if we're going to actively promote the GNOME3 PPA, we should definitely have a section of the site dedicated to explaining at least some of the basics (ie dist-upgrade very prominently displayed, etc) | 13:18 |
| darkxst | ok so we need a secret_staging ppa, but as soon as we do that it will get leaked on all the blogs! | 13:20 |
| camelinahat | darkxst, Oh yes, I've seen more than a few blogs saying 'make sure you use ricotz's testing ppa' | 13:22 |
| darkxst | camelinahat, lol | 13:22 |
| camelinahat | See: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/a-quick-look-at-new-gnome-classic.html | 13:23 |
| camelinahat | And even soe 'ask ubuntu' answers http://askubuntu.com/questions/210195/how-to-update-from-gnome-3-4-1-to-3-6 :( | 13:25 |
| camelinahat | *some | 13:25 |
| darkxst | I wonder, if we made a ppa called death_of_your_computer_guaranteed would that fix that problem | 13:25 |
| camelinahat | damn that's got to be a good one! Sign me up! ;0 | 13:26 |
| darkxst | dput might need to grow auto-completion first, since that would be a pain to type for every upload! | 13:28 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, I've published a draft of some release notes here: http://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-13-04/ (it's private so you'll need to log in with your lp account to see it) | 13:30 |
| darkxst | camelinahat, just put the links straight in that page (rather than link to downloads page) | 13:33 |
| darkxst | maybe dot points for the what's new | 13:34 |
| darkxst | (bullets even) | 13:34 |
| darkxst | ppa-purge is incredibly broken in some cases, but lets not mention that | 13:37 |
| rich1974 | it has only 9 month support, isn't it? | 13:39 |
| camelinahat | Okay added those edits, plus a link to the Ubuntu Release Notes as well. | 13:39 |
| darkxst | rich1974, yes | 13:39 |
| rich1974 | for the moment, i installed gnome shell over 12.04 from USCenter...works pretty fine. | 13:41 |
| rich1974 | but i get 9 fps vs 13 fps in unity. i am talking about stellarium | 13:42 |
| forage | I'm probably not the first, and I probably wont be the last to ask: what's the recommended way to upgrade from UbuntuGnome 12.10 to 13.04? Just like you would upgrade plain Ubuntu? | 13:42 |
| darkxst | forage, just run update-manager | 13:42 |
| forage | ok, just like plain ubuntu | 13:43 |
| forage | ty | 13:43 |
| darkxst | rich1974, either result seems useless really, you can't play games at 13fps even | 13:43 |
| rich1974 | i am not a gamer, i wounder myself why is that diffrence | 13:44 |
| forage | just wondering, would I be missing out on something if I upgrade instead of reinstalling? | 13:45 |
| rich1974 | i have a ati x1270 (rs690) dell inspiron 1521 | 13:45 |
| darkxst | rich1974, and i wonder what is stellarium | 13:46 |
| rich1974 | stellarium is a planetarium app. it is like a game... | 13:46 |
| darkxst | forage, no, maybe you would save a few MB of disk space, but other upgrade is fine | 13:46 |
| darkxst | rich1974, OSS drivers or catalyst? | 13:47 |
| forage | ok, cool. I sure hope GDM will become functional again | 13:47 |
| forage | otherwise it'll still be a reinstall | 13:48 |
| rich1974 | it woud be a great idea to add a feature that we can upgrade from liveUSB. no, open-source driver, i had no support from amd anymore. | 13:48 |
| darkxst | forage, gdm should have been functional since like last release | 13:48 |
| rich1974 | my laptop is from 2008 | 13:49 |
| forage | darkxst: it isn't for me, I broke it somehow :-D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1169640 | 13:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1169640 in gdm (Ubuntu) "GDM fails to start after system crash" [Undecided,New] | 13:49 |
| darkxst | forage, of course there was the locale bug, if you installed of beta 2 (or daily's prior to that) | 13:49 |
| darkxst | forage, can't do much without logs! | 13:50 |
| forage | what logs would you like? | 13:50 |
| darkxst | but check your /etc/default/locale file | 13:50 |
| forage | what would that file have to do with it? | 13:51 |
| darkxst | look for LC_* lines, that don't include UTF-8 | 13:51 |
| forage | ah | 13:51 |
| forage | all fine here | 13:51 |
| forage | it's a GDM issue in combination with upstart in my case | 13:52 |
| darkxst | ok | 13:52 |
| darkxst | reinstall is unlikely to help there | 13:52 |
| forage | it will if it's a clean reinstall, but I sure would like to prevent that | 13:53 |
| darkxst | well no more likley than an upgrade | 13:54 |
| darkxst | unless one of the configuration files is corrupted | 13:55 |
| forage | by clean reinstall I mean getting rid of the home folder | 13:55 |
| forage | complete disk wipe | 13:56 |
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| forage | but if you can help out with getting gdm up and running again I would really appreciate the help | 13:58 |
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| forage | it "just" stopt working, failing to start automatically. Launching it manually as root does work | 13:58 |
| forage | stopped | 13:59 |
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| jbicha | camelinahat: thanks for sending out the announcement | 14:53 |
| jbicha | could you unprivate the website bug so I can follow it? | 14:53 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, Yep, sorry about that. Done. Bug 1172688 and every look alright with the annoucement? | 14:56 |
| ubot5 | bug 1172688 in ubuntu-website-content "Ubuntu GNOME derivative listed incorrectly as just GNOME" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172688 | 14:56 |
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| sweeze | looking at the raring ppa + staging ppa, looks like a small # of packages are still at 3.7.x... is that something that causes problems? will they be brought up to 3.8.x versions soon-ish? | 16:50 |
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| blok_ | hey all, having some issues with the new release | 17:09 |
| jbicha | sweeze: generally that's either because the difference from 3.7.92 to 3.8.0 was minimal, or because no one has done the work to package the new version and test it | 17:09 |
| blok_ | live cd works great, but after install i get no usb or nic drivers | 17:09 |
| jbicha | blok_: that sounds to me like a kernel problem, you can run ubuntu-bug linux to report it | 17:13 |
| awochna_ | Is there an upgrade path from the old, unofficial Ubuntu Gnome (12.10) to the shiny new 13.04 official one? | 17:14 |
| fluo75 | Hi all ;) | 17:16 |
| fluo75 | The live DVD/Installation disk of U-G 13.04 crashes for me almost from the start (just after "grub"), what can i do to help find the bug? | 17:18 |
| Lsf_lf | @developer, great version, thanks for doing … :-) | 17:44 |
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| camelinahat | I've got to head out for the day. Later folks. Congrats on the first full (official) release :) | 19:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Hooray! 13.04! | 20:44 |
| HadiM | hi | 21:04 |
| HadiM | anyone got trouble with gnome terminal settings (such as background color for example) ??? | 21:04 |
| HadiM | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1172209 | 21:04 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1172209 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome terminal settings not applied" [Undecided,New] | 21:04 |
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