[01:10] <plars> so are we still expecting a respin on ubuntu-desktop?
[01:17] <Riddell> plars: iso tracker says no
[01:18] <plars> hmm, I got the impression earlier that all desktops were respinning, maybe not?
[01:18] <Riddell> nope
[02:27] <ScottK> infinity, slangasek, somebody: When's the cutoff for Universe/unseeded uploads?
[02:27] <ScottK> "soon" seems good.
[03:38] <balloons> fyi ubuntu server & maas install failure, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1172566
[03:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172566 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "MAAS Server install fails when network is disconnected" [Undecided,New]
[04:34] <plars> Just hit bug #1172572 - seems to be an odd corner case, didn't seem to cause any problem so far, if I go back and forward again it clears up
[04:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172572 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No option to continue from install type screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172572
[04:35] <plars> balloons: networkless may be a bit of a strange case for maas server :)
[05:10] <JackYu> morning, everyone:)
[05:17] <ScottK>  ^^^ is my sync, so someone else please review.
[05:24] <vibhav> Frozen for release == Final Freeze, right?
[05:42] <JackYu> vibhav, I think there could be 'Frozen for final release', 'Frozen for Beta release'...
[05:45] <vibhav> JackYu: Yeah, that could be better, though I prefer the phrase "Final Freeze"
[05:47] <JackYu> vibhav, I agree.
[06:32] <jamespage> cjwatson, thanks for those bug reports
[06:40] <diwic> Hi, I think we need to release note bug 1169984. How do I help out with that?
[06:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1169984 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "Either oops or opening device fails with -ENODEV, with HDMI audio" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1169984
[07:01] <stgraber> good morning
[07:47] <infinity> ScottK: The cutoff is "really effin' soon" but, honestly, until I mark it stable in LP, there's nothing stopping us from accepting and building stuff, since it's in -proposed anyway, we can toss it out if it doesn't make it.
[07:47] <infinity> ScottK: (or carry it to S)
[07:55] <pgraner> Daviey, can you review the bugs on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42960/testcases/1461/results  and nominate for release notes etc..
[08:12] <cjwatson> cdimage mirror syncing disabled
[08:16] <pgraner> apw, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42960/testcases/1461/results
[08:17] <Laney> can we still unblock stuff?
[08:22] <cjwatson> Laney: Yeah, for an hour or so
[08:24] <xnox> Kylin not tested...
[08:24] <Laney> cjwatson: ok, so autopostgresqlbackup (what a mouthful). don't know about cinder/nova; they aren't on media ...
[08:25] <cjwatson> infinity was going to look at those two this morning
[08:25] <Laney> cinder doesn't matter so much
[08:28] <cjwatson> xnox: They were going to get to it this morning Beijing time ...
[08:28] <cjwatson> JackYu: Any news on UbuntuKylin image testing?
[08:31] <pgraner> apw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview
[08:46] <xnox> cjwatson: JackYu: all Kylin got all testing into the iso tracker.
[08:47] <xnox> now. just mark as ready left I guess.
[08:47] <cjwatson> Ah, good
[08:49] <bkerensa> pgraner: more credits should be trickling in... I think we are just waiting on Developers list
[08:51] <cjwatson> Riddell: Do you have any more details on the Kubuntu ubiquity failure on powerpc?  The original logs in that bug relate to an X bug that should have been fixed
[08:52] <cjwatson> Sorry, I mean armhf+omap4
[08:52] <cjwatson> bug 1164239
[08:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1164239 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not start on kubuntu 13.04 arm image" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164239
[08:55] <highvoltage> stgraber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview isn't frozen yet right? (just want to file and add a bug)
[08:55] <stgraber> highvoltage: AFAIK it's still editable
[08:55] <cjwatson> No reason it shouldn't be, indeed
[08:57] <pgraner> bkerensa, ack, just keep updating
[08:57] <highvoltage> other flavours should probably go ahead and update too, they're sections are a bit bare (perhaps they just have no issues :p)
[08:58] <pgraner> highvoltage, yes it is
[09:00] <highvoltage> is ubuntu having monthly releases soon? I see there's ubuntu-13.05, ubuntu-13.06, ubuntu-13.07 on launchpad. or was that just a premature addition based on rolling release / monthly release discussions?
[09:00] <cjwatson> milestones not releases
[09:01] <cjwatson> basically for planning
[09:01] <cjwatson> and no, not premature, it followed all the TB discussions about that
[09:03] <infinity> Riddell, highvoltage, knome, phillw, zequence: Do you have URLs to separate release announcements that we can link from ours?  (Same URLs as last time, but s/12.10/13.04/?)
[09:03] <gema> stgraber: we need to remove one test case from the server upgrade list, upgrade (image) which is not valid anymore, this is for i386 and amd64
[09:04] <gema> stgraber: I am trying to find it on the admin ui, but haven't had luck yet
[09:04] <highvoltage> infinity: correct
[09:04] <cjwatson> gema: was never valid in the first place :)
[09:04] <xnox> pgraner: added release note to the description of bug 1172002
[09:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172002 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install doesn't mount encrypted swap for reinstall" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172002
[09:04] <stgraber> gema: ok, I'll kill it
[09:05] <cjwatson> at least not in the form given in that testcase description
[09:05] <highvoltage> infinity: http://edubuntu.org/news/13.04-release
[09:05] <stgraber> gema: ah, that'd be because the server upgrades are using the "Desktop upgrade" testsuite ;)
[09:05] <highvoltage> (not published yet, but that's the URL)
[09:05] <stgraber> gema: I'll create you a new Server upgrade testsuite
[09:06] <cjwatson> stgraber: You shouldn't need to
[09:06] <cjwatson> stgraber: There's no way to upgrade from the server images themselves
[09:06] <cjwatson> stgraber: I think what happened is that, when the cdromupgrade script went away, somebody thought "oh, image upgrades don't work any more, flail" and replaced with the desktop image upgrade instructions
[09:06] <cjwatson> stgraber: But that case should just have been removed since squashfs-base broke that use case
[09:07] <cjwatson> (And it was never a very important use case anyway - networkless server upgrades, really? :-) )
[09:07] <gema> stgraber: sounds good
[09:07] <stgraber> gema: done
[09:08] <Daviey> Please can nova and cinder be ublocked please.  I do not have a hints file.
[09:08] <infinity> JackYu: Do you have a release announcement, or a web page you want us to reference in our generic release announcement?
[09:08] <infinity> Daviey: Already done.
[09:08] <gema> stgraber: that's awesome, you even kept the results, thanks!
[09:08] <stgraber> cjwatson: right. We no longer have any CD/offline based upgrades for server, but I still needed a "Server upgrade" testsuite to list the online upgrade of server systems (standard do-release-upgrade -d)
[09:08] <cjwatson> stgraber: There was already a separate test case for that, though
[09:09] <Daviey> infinity: oh, thanks.
[09:09] <cjwatson> "Upgrade" vs. "Upgrade (image)"
[09:09] <cjwatson> And "Upgrade" already had the do-release-upgrade thing
[09:09] <stgraber> gema: results are tied to the testcase, not the testsuite, so I can indeed change the testsuite completely without loosing results
[09:09] <gema> stgraber: cool
[09:09] <cjwatson> Oh, wait - OK, it does say "update-manager -d -c"
[09:09] <cjwatson> So, yeah, that probably wants to be split
[09:10]  * ogra_ never got why we have that command distinction
[09:10] <stgraber> cjwatson: Correct, but the "Upgrade" + "Upgrade (image)" combo was coming from the "Upgrade desktop" testsuite, so I had to create a new "Upgrade server" testsuite for the server products that only contains the "Upgrade" testcase
[09:10] <cjwatson> Ah, right
[09:10] <gema> stgraber: and we may add more test cases in the future
[09:10] <gema> the split makes a lot of sense
[09:11] <stgraber> right
[09:11] <stgraber> balloons: can you update http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1310/info to also cover server upgrades (it says update-manager currently but should also say apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade for servers)?
[09:12] <stgraber> balloons: if you prefer to create a separate testscase that's fine too but then you'll have to let me know so I can migrate the results before we switch
[09:12] <phillw> infinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[09:14] <gema> balloons, stgraber: I think a new test case is in order
[09:14] <gema> they are different results after all
[09:17] <infinity> phillw: Announcement, not notes.
[09:17] <infinity> phillw: ie: last time, you had http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/12.10
[09:18] <infinity> phillw: So, same thing, but 13.04, I'm guessing, since that's already there?
[09:20] <infinity> JackYu: Does Kylin have a release announcement I can link to?
[09:20] <phillw> infinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/13.04 :)
[09:24] <JackYu> infinity: Pls see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1304-ReleaseNotes, we are still preparing.
[09:27] <knome> infinity, http://xubuntu.org/news/13-04-release for us
[09:28] <smartboyhw> zequence: Do you have the Studio announcement link for infinity?
[09:30] <cjwatson> source images might be almost working ...
[09:30] <cjwatson> going to have to start publishing other images soon but I'll finish this first
[09:31] <Daviey> infinity: maybe i'm mistaken, but nova and cinder still seem in proposed?
[09:32] <cjwatson> They're mid-publish, I think
[09:33] <cjwatson> Yeah, the publisher literally just started writing them into release
[09:33] <Daviey> ah, ok.
[09:34] <cjwatson> But I'll keep an eye on it and make sure that finishes
[09:34] <Daviey> Thanks.
[09:34] <infinity> JackYu: /win 224
[09:34] <infinity> Erm.
[09:35] <infinity> I suck at IRC.
[09:36]  * cjwatson is slightly spooked by only about 1.5 source CDs coming out - wonder if something's up there
[09:37] <zequence> infinity: Link to Ubuntu Studio release notes http://ubuntustudio.org/?p=719
[09:38] <infinity> zequence: s/Notes/Announcement/?
[09:38] <cjwatson> Sorry, DVDs not CDs
[09:38] <zequence> infinity: Ah, ok. Let me create a page for it :)
[09:38] <infinity> zequence: Since your notes seem to be at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/UbuntuStudio
[09:38] <cjwatson> It was about 2.5 for quantal
[09:38] <infinity> zequence: I'm okay linking to the notes.
[09:39] <infinity> zequence: Would you prefer I link to your studio.org link above, or straight to the wiki?
[09:40] <psivaa> stgraber: would you mind having a look at one of the VM's in aldebaran, utah-8063-raring-amd64 please. most of the vms with the latest image get stuck during reboot with ' Casper is resyncing snapshots and caching reboot files' on the console.
[09:41] <psivaa> i tried with an older image and this issue is not occurring with the old image
[09:41] <zequence> infinity: This would be better http://ubuntustudio.org/?p=726
[09:41] <infinity> zequence: I asusme that won't be a 404 soon? :P
[09:41] <stgraber> psivaa: what happen if you press enter?
[09:42] <psivaa> stgraber: yes sorry if i press enter that reboots fine
[09:42] <psivaa> stgraber: for every machine i have to press enter for a reboot
[09:42] <zequence> infinity: The link is good
[09:43] <infinity> zequence: Alright.  I assume it's just hidden or something?  I'll take your word for it. :)
[09:43] <stgraber> psivaa: which is expected no? the fact that the message itself doesn't show up can be explained by some driver weirdness (I need to use the vmvga driver here to get working plymouth)
[09:45] <stgraber> psivaa: oh crap, I think I see what you mean. If you preseed the reboot flag the machine won't reboot...
[09:45] <psivaa> stgraber: yes exactly, and it appears only with the new images, because the older ones with the same setup worked
[09:46] <psivaa> i mean older image
[09:46] <stgraber> psivaa: yep, I see why, I definitely messed up that part...
[09:46] <stgraber> cjwatson, infinity: ^
[09:47] <stgraber> we need: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600566/
[09:47] <stgraber> otherwise even if the message isn't shown when $prompt is unset, we're still waiting for the keystroke
[09:47] <cjwatson> Could you write up a release note?
[09:48] <stgraber> I need to think of a workaround first, that doesn't involve someone manually pressing enter...
[09:48] <psivaa> stgraber: i'll report a bug for that then
[09:49] <psivaa> ?
[09:49] <stgraber> psivaa: yes, please (against casper)
[09:49] <cjwatson> Worst case: late_command hack?
[09:49] <cjwatson> (Or equiv)
[09:49] <psivaa> stgraber: ack
[09:51] <stgraber> cjwatson: yeah, I've reading through the init script a few more times and there's no way to easily abuse it. So I'll come up with a sed command to fix it and tell people to run that at some point during the install (like late_command) to fix it
[09:51] <stgraber> s/reading/read/
[09:52] <stgraber> cjwatson: I guess we could get that into raring-updates now so that anyone generating images based on Ubuntu gets the fix at least?
[09:52] <cjwatson> Shame, but at least it's possible
[09:52] <cjwatson> Yeah
[09:52] <stgraber> psivaa: ping me when you've got the bug number
[09:53] <psivaa> stgraber: sure
[09:57] <stgraber> sed "/eject -p -m/ a\\\n    [ \"\$prompt\" ] || return 0" /etc/init.d/casper
[09:57] <stgraber> pretty isn't it? :)
[09:57] <psivaa> stgraber: bug 1172653 is opened for that. and thanks for the debug :)
[09:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172653 in casper (Ubuntu) "Preseeded installations do not complete reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172653
[09:57] <stgraber> psivaa: can you test the workaround on one of your machine?
[09:58] <stgraber> psivaa: basically run: sed "/eject -p -m/ a\\\n    [ \"\$prompt\" ] || return 0" /etc/init.d/casper
[09:58] <stgraber> psivaa: as late_command or early_command (doesn't matter when it's run)
[09:58] <stgraber> that should make the reboot work
[09:59] <cjwatson> you're missing -i
[09:59] <psivaa> stgraber: sure
[09:59] <stgraber> cjwatson: indeed I am, thanks
[09:59] <stgraber> psivaa: sed -i "/eject -p -m/ a\\\n    [ \"\$prompt\" ] || return 0" /etc/init.d/casper
[09:59] <psivaa> stgraber: ack
[10:01] <cjwatson> Would this be easier to read:
[10:01] <cjwatson> sed -i 's/eject -p -m.*/&; [ "$prompt" ] || return 0/' /etc/init.d/casper
[10:03] <stgraber> cjwatson: yep, easier to read and less likely to explode in people's shell scripts
[10:03] <stgraber> it doesn't have give you the exact same file as the one in the casper update (which mine was doing) but we hardly care ;)
[10:03] <cjwatson> Daviey: nova and cinder are in the release pocket now
[10:04] <cjwatson> though apparently still in -proposed too which is slightly odd, but I think that'll just take another publisher run
[10:05] <Laney> publishinghistory for them looks right anyway
[10:05] <stgraber> casper uploaded, taking care of the release notes now
[10:09] <cjwatson> How far from ready is Xubuntu?
[10:09] <cjwatson> Also the rest of Kubuntu
[10:10] <cjwatson> I'm getting pretty close to the point where I'm going to publish anyway and we release-note the things that haven't been tested; it's easier to withdraw the images later
[10:10] <cjwatson> (Because otherwise the dailies get garbage-collected)
[10:11] <knome> cjwatson, ok to release xubuntu
[10:12]  * cjwatson finally gets source images roughly working
[10:12] <cjwatson> knome: thanks
[10:12] <cjwatson> I've marked that on iso.qa
[10:15] <phillw> cjwatson: ppc-server image is being checked now for 'does it install'. We don't have the required hardware to do the more "esoteric" tests.
[10:16] <cjwatson> ta
[10:17] <phillw> cjwatson: the recursive bug is well known & documented, that is just release note worthy.
[10:18] <knome> that happens to me as well... is there a workaround?
[10:18] <phillw> knome: the sad saga is listed at http://launchpad.net/bugs/1066435
[10:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1066435 in linux (Ubuntu) "powerpc: "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"" [High,Confirmed]
[10:19] <phillw> it's been around for a while now.
[10:19] <knome> i don't have a ppc though...
[10:19] <phillw> knome: then I'm not familiar with your issue, sorry.
[10:19] <knome> okay :)
[10:20] <phillw> but, do have a read of the bug and see if it gives you any pointers
[10:21] <knome> i read a similar one that pointed to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS
[10:22] <knome> phillw, bug 1169984
[10:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1169984 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "Either oops or opening device fails with -ENODEV, with HDMI audio" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1169984
[10:22] <knome> but i'm not sure if that's my bug either
[10:22] <knome> i can simply get around it by hard rebooting
[10:23] <psivaa> stgraber: cjwatson: the reboot worked fine with sed -i 's/eject -p -m.*/&; [ "$prompt" ] || return 0/' /etc/init.d/casper being the late_command
[10:24] <cjwatson> OK, good
[10:24] <stgraber> psivaa: cool. I've added that to the release notes.
[10:24] <psivaa> stgraber: ack
[10:25] <phillw> infinity: do you have the link to ubuntu release notes to hand?
[10:25] <infinity> phillw: The final link, or the current location?
[10:26] <phillw> the final link, just so I can check it ours :)
[10:26] <infinity> phillw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview will be moving to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes shortly.
[10:26] <phillw> tx
[10:37] <Riddell> morning
[10:37] <MissValeska> Is 13.04 out yet?
[10:37] <smartboyhw> .....
[10:37] <stgraber> MissValeska: wrong channel
[10:37] <smartboyhw> Go to #ubuntu-release-party plz
[10:37] <MissValeska> Ohh
[10:37] <MissValeska> Kay
[10:37] <MissValeska> Thank you ^-^
[10:39] <cjwatson> Daviey: (a) Sorry I was somewhat on the tetchy side last night (b) Do you know if anyone's available shortly to do cloud image publishing?  I think we forgot to give the Americans advance notice of planned release times ...
[10:41] <cjwatson> release team: please don't unblock anything else
[10:41] <Daviey> cjwatson: Yes, I should apologise aswell.  I was unusually sensitive.
[10:41] <cjwatson> Stress does that :-/
[10:41] <Daviey> cjwatson: I think i've done it before, but i am worried it has changed since.  I'd rather wait for smoser who should be around shortly-ish
[10:42] <phillw> I'll be AFK for approx 90 mins
[10:42] <cjwatson> OK.  cdimage is syncing out now
[10:42] <cjwatson> We do nominally have instructions on ReleaseProcess but they date from maverick
[10:42] <cjwatson> And I too generally prefer not to guess ...
[10:42] <Daviey> Yeah
[10:43] <Daviey> I'll work with utlemming and smoser to get the instructions refreshed
[10:43] <cjwatson> Great
[10:46] <ogra_> Riddell, i cant really belive that bug 1172552 and bug 1164239 are the same bug .... the latter one was an xserver issue that was fixed by mlankhorst right after beta (and the images work fine with unity since then)
[10:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1164239 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1172552 ubiquity does not start on kubuntu 13.04 arm image" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164239
[10:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1164239 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not start on kubuntu 13.04 arm image" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164239
[10:48] <stgraber> for those not looking at #ubuntu-devel, please do. Looks like we forgot to tell LP that raring is only supported for 9 months (leading to ubuntu-support-status and likely the software-center lying about actually support length)
[10:48] <Riddell> ogra_: ok maybe they're not then
[10:48] <ogra_> some logs would eb good :)
[10:48] <Riddell> ogra_: on the current image I can't even press cntl-alt-F1 to get a terminal (but the mouse moves fine)
[10:48] <ogra_> *be
[10:49] <Riddell> so I think I need to work out the serial console thing again which I wasn't in the mood for at 4 in the morning
[10:52] <ogra_> just add console=ttyO2 to the kernel cmdline in preEnv.txt on the first partition of your install media
[10:53] <ogra_> hmm
[10:54] <ogra_> you might also want serialtty=ttyO2
[10:54] <ogra_> for casper
[11:14] <zequence> ETA 18:00 UTC?
[11:14] <smartboyhw> zequence: Who says that?
[11:15] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'm asking..
[11:15] <stgraber> zequence: should be much earlier than that. The plan was for 11:00 UTC but there's been a last minute problem that'll delay the release a bit.
[11:16] <zequence> stgraber: Ok, good to know (I was planning to go out for a while, but will stay until the release is out)
[11:27] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:28] <cfhowlett> czajkowski, mohalo
[11:29] <vibhav> o/
[11:30] <cjwatson> vibhav: /
[11:30] <cjwatson> ?
[11:31] <vibhav> cjwatson: o/ denotes a waving hand
[11:31] <vibhav> afaik
[11:32] <smartboyhw> cjwatson you don't do that in meetings?
[11:32] <cjwatson> Yeah, it usually means you want to ask a question
[11:32] <Laney> It's common for it to denote raising your hand, i.e. "I have something to ask"
[11:32] <cjwatson> So I'm asking what your question is
[11:32] <smartboyhw> lol
[11:32] <vibhav> nerver knew that
[11:33] <vibhav> I should probably search for another emoticon
[11:33] <popey> how about 💩
[11:34] <smartboyhw> popey: Hmm I can't see it in AndroIR
[11:34] <popey> Sucks to be you ☻
[11:34] <smartboyhw> *AndroIRC
[11:34] <vibhav> Can't see this here too
[11:35] <popey> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4a9/index.htm
[11:36] <smartboyhw> lol popey
[11:37] <vibhav> heh
[12:00] <highvoltage> stgraber: do we have an eta on release time? or is it around 18:00 as usual?
[12:00] <SirDidi> is there a 13.04 release party channel?
[12:00] <ogra_> yes
[12:01] <ogra_> #ubuntu-release-party
[12:02]  * ScottK ponders the size of the required warning label for Kubuntu powerpc.
[12:03] <ogra_> 6x3
[12:03] <SirDidi> @ogra_g thx
[12:05] <cjwatson> UbuntuHashes done
[12:05] <cjwatson> God help me
[12:06] <JackYu> :)
[12:09] <asgeir_> its OUT !!!
[12:09] <popey> heh
[12:16] <smartboyhw> Thank you Ubuntu Release Team <3
[12:17] <ogra_> thank you smartboyhw ... you did your part too :)
[12:17] <smartboyhw> ogra_ my part isn't as big as yours:p
[12:18] <ogra_> big enough :)
[12:19] <ogra_> cjwatson, so how about we just open 13.10 as "Silent Sabdfl"
[12:20] <ScottK> infinity and cjwatson: We have a shot at a workaround that may make the Kubuntu armhf image usable, so please keep the image around for a bit in case it turns out we can release it.
[12:20] <smartboyhw> ogra_ +1:P
[12:28]  * ogra_ would be curious what a "Silent Sabdfl" logo would look like ... might be intresting what the design team would come up with ...
[12:30] <belgianguy> hmm, I get a 13.04 upgrade alert
[12:30] <belgianguy> but it says it's in ALPHA stage ?
[12:30] <belgianguy> is that normal
[12:32] <wgrant> cjwatson: ^^ meta-release still references DevelReleaseAnnouncement
[12:32] <Daviey> The meta files haven't been updated?
[12:34] <belgianguy> http://i.imgur.com/mmxWcg3.png
[12:34] <Laney> probably AFKing - can anyone else edit that?
[12:34] <wgrant> I don't believe so
[12:34] <wgrant> Will need IS
[12:34] <ScottK> Oh, never mind, it's already released (Kubuntu armhf)
[12:34] <Laney> ho hum
[12:34] <Laney> elmo: ^?
[12:34] <wgrant> elmo: ^^ if you have a sec
[12:34] <elmo> hmm?
[12:35] <wgrant> elmo: meta-release needs an s/DevelRelease/Release/
[12:35] <wgrant> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[12:35] <wgrant> ReleaseNotes: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/DevelReleaseAnnouncement
[12:35] <wgrant> ReleaseNotesHtml: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/DevelReleaseAnnouncement.html
[12:35] <belgianguy> This is a full screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/xg5GlT3.png
[12:35] <elmo> where's cjwatson?
[12:35]  * Daviey does the bzr
[12:35] <elmo> I gave him edit privs
[12:36] <elmo> one second
[12:36] <Laney> AFK?
[12:36] <elmo> let me see if he's around before I use root
[12:36] <wgrant> I assume it was he that set it to Supported, but I guess he's gone now
[12:37] <Daviey> someone want to double check, http://pb.daviey.com/FR5B/ ?
[12:38] <wgrant> Daviey: Right
[12:39] <elmo> cjwatson is en route
[12:39] <Daviey> elmo: As user changelogs bignay:/srv/changelogs.ubuntu.com/www
[12:39] <Daviey> ah ok
[12:40] <cjwatson> ScottK: I think I released it anyway
[12:40] <ScottK> Yes.  It turns out you did.
[12:41] <cjwatson> Daviey: ta, done
[12:41] <ScottK> I suspect the low memory thing with the slide show is our culprit on armhf as well and we need to come up with an appropriate workaround.
[12:41] <Laney> merci
[12:41] <cjwatson> ScottK: on the basis that it's easier to withdraw later than to try to keep dailies around for an undefined time
[12:41] <ScottK> OK.
[12:42] <cjwatson> belgianguy: should be fixed for you now, modulo caching
[12:42] <ScottK> Makes sense.
[12:42] <belgianguy> k guys, thanks for the fix ;)
[12:42] <belgianguy> cjwatson: yup, it's fixed, see you soon!
[12:44]  * stgraber removed queue admin rights from the release team for raring and added these same rights to ubuntu-sru
[12:44] <rustx> http://images-mix.netdna-ssl.com/w/300/h/300/q/85/upload/images/extaudio/5591d72c-abd9-454f-a8e8-52ce288d24b2.jpg
[12:44] <cjwatson> stgraber: thanks - I've been waiting for an official name announcement before starting on NRCP
[12:44] <rustx> oups .. sorry :-[
[12:45] <stgraber> cjwatson: yeah, makes sense. It just bothered me when I noticed I could still see those buttons in +queue and figured that was one of those things we can do even without a name for s.
[12:46] <cjwatson> Yeah
[12:57] <ScottK> Maybe it's a test to see if we can function without him and the TB should just pick something ...
[14:12] <slangasek> cjwatson, infinity: congrats
[14:20] <rickspencer3> slangasek, congrats for what?
[14:20] <ogra_> rickspencer3, release ?
[14:20] <slangasek> rickspencer3: for this 13.04 thing that's been announced as out :)
[14:21] <doko> opening the s-series?
[14:21] <ogra_> doko, haha
[14:21] <ogra_> not yet
[14:21] <rickspencer3> slangasek, weird, how come no one told me about it?
[14:21] <ogra_> unless you come up with a name and take the blame for it
[14:21] <ogra_> rickspencer3, infinity sent you a mail, i'm sure
[14:22] <rickspencer3> oh, right
[14:22] <smartboyhw_> ogra_ is it that no name = no opening?
[14:22] <infinity> rickspencer3: Oh, by the way, we released.
[14:22] <rickspencer3> :)
[14:22] <rickspencer3> congrats infinity
[14:22] <ogra_> :)
[14:22] <ogra_> smartboyhw_, right
[14:22] <rickspencer3> infinity, I met someone in a dream who asked me if the release was out, and forced me to wake up and check the website at like 5am
[14:22] <smartboyhw_> :O
[14:22] <rickspencer3> seriously
[14:22] <doko> so where's the new name?
[14:22] <infinity> And in 15 minutes, I'm calling the next one Spanky Spaniel.
[14:22] <cjwatson> smartboyhw_: the first steps intrinsically involve knowing the name
[14:22] <ogra_> i guess it would technically work with a dummy ...
[14:22] <ogra_> but you would have to rename it then
[14:23] <cjwatson> less trouble to wait, sadly
[14:23] <ogra_> yeah
[14:23] <infinity> ogra_: We'd have to change the string in too many places.
[14:23] <infinity> ogra_: Just not worth it.
[14:23] <doko> that would be spanky daniel, but it's s not d
[14:23]  * ogra_ still votes for "Silent Sabdfl"
[14:23] <cjwatson> doko: Clearly you know something about dholbach that I don't
[14:23] <ogra_> haha
[14:23] <infinity> cjwatson: They're from Berlin...
[14:23] <ogra_> yeah, berlin ...
[14:24] <doko> cjwatson, yeah, ...
[14:24] <cjwatson> I think I'm happy for it to stay that way
[14:24] <doko> also I tend to see dholbach more at conferences than in Berlin lately ...
[14:25] <rickspencer3> so, I think 13.04 is our best desktop yet
[14:25] <doko> can we just accept s-series as an alias?
[14:25] <ogra_> rickspencer3, ++
[14:25] <cjwatson> doko: Not without some code changes
[14:26] <rickspencer3> ogra_, what is also cool, is that I have Ubuntu touch running on my tablet :)
[14:26] <rickspencer3> and I have an IDE with an SDK
[14:26] <ogra_> :D
[14:26] <cjwatson> Oh yeah, I should update my N7 while I have bandwidth
[14:27] <rickspencer3> ogra_, now I just need to make new photobomb for my tablet
[14:28] <ogra_> and package it
[14:28] <smartboyhw_> https://plus.google.com/113294244748214217005/posts/59FhBbNNWG3
[14:28] <smartboyhw_> LOL
[14:34] <dobey> S-shaped Seahorse
[14:35] <rickspencer3> hey all
[14:35] <rickspencer3> I'm sure you are all reading this now?
[14:35] <rickspencer3> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252
[14:35] <rickspencer3> :)
[14:35] <dobey> or we should release early on Sept 19, and call it Scurvy Seadog
[14:35] <smartboyhw_> lol
[14:36] <smartboyhw_> Saucy Salamender!? Holy christ that's ugly..
[14:36] <dobey> "Strong indicator of a pristine environment" ?
[14:36] <dobey> tell that to the salamanders in my yard
[14:37] <dobey> poor things just don't know they're not supposed to be here :)
[14:37] <barry> salamander sauce?  almost makes me want to go veg <wink>
[14:37] <dobey> barry: except for bacon, at least
[14:38] <Laney> heh
[14:38] <barry> dobey: yo! no bacon
[14:39] <dobey> barry: traitor
[14:40] <rickspencer3> I like it
[14:40] <rickspencer3> lol
[14:40] <rickspencer3> it happens to me every time
[14:40] <rickspencer3> my first reaction to the name is "omg no"
[14:40] <rickspencer3> then it grows on me
[14:40] <cjwatson> Stockholm Syndrome
[14:40] <Laney> I didn't have that this time
[14:40] <cjwatson> How appropriate :)
[14:40] <rickspencer3> lol
[14:40] <Laney> maybe it'll go the other day
[14:40] <Laney> way
[14:40] <rickspencer3> there was one name that I refused to use for the whole release though :)
[14:40] <ScottK> dobey: One of my daughters spent three years being a veg, but bacon got her in the end.
[14:41] <wgrant> ogra_: If you try to rename a live distroseries on LP I will cry :)
[14:41] <barry> after we round the z's and head back to a, can we raffle off naming rights?
[14:41] <kenvandine> ScottK, how can anyone resist bacon!
[14:41]  * ScottK doesn't know.
[14:41] <barry> bacon is the candy of meat
[14:41] <rustx> muslims knows
[14:41] <kenvandine> indeed
[14:41] <ogra_> wgrant, ouch, i thought it would be clever
[14:41] <barry> or maybe the crack of meat anyway :)
[14:42] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, i so wanted the "rolling rick"
[14:42] <rickspencer3> my family discovered bacon flavored ranch dressing last week
[14:42] <kenvandine> yum
[14:42] <rickspencer3> suddenly, salads are popular with my teenage kids :)
[14:42] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, so did I!
[14:42] <rickspencer3> lol
[14:42] <ScottK> http://www.baconismagic.ca/pre-trip-planning/parts-of-the-pig-that-are-delicious/
[14:42] <kenvandine> hehe
[14:42] <dobey> Saucy Sriracha
[14:42] <rustx> hey guys : https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/58884_10151539593854190_1629934171_n.jpg
[14:42] <barry> dobey: now *that* i can support
[14:43] <rustx> enjoy, bacon time :)
[14:43] <ScottK> At least saucy is short and easy to type.  That's the most important thing.
[14:44] <kenvandine> indeed
[14:44] <rickspencer3> ScottK, right, I will find ways to mispell it, I am sure
[14:44] <rickspencer3> but Quantaal
[14:44] <dobey> barry: it's too bad we don't have real UDS any more though. could have made special t-shirts for it :)
[14:44] <rickspencer3> quetzelator?
[14:45] <dobey> Quetzelcoatl
[14:45] <rickspencer3> ScottK, infinity, cjwatson, Riddell, and the rest of the release team ... congrats on a smooth release, btw
[14:46] <rickspencer3> now that we have the name, I feel like we can finally call it "done" :)
[14:46] <barry> dobey: rooster sauce
[14:46] <rustx> i am not part of the team, but Thanks to all of you !!!
[14:46]  * smartboyhw_ salutes to the whole Ubuntu Release Team
[14:46] <dobey> barry: but an ubuntu parody :)
[14:47] <dobey> rickspencer3: especially given that little kerfuffle we had yesterday :)
[14:48] <barry> dobey: we could put it on youtubuntu
[14:48] <rickspencer3> dobey, do you want to tell me about it over a proprietary sip client?
[14:48] <balloons> stgraber, gema et la.. I didn't have time to fix it properly yesterday, but yes someone just added the desktop upgrade tests to server.. Not good.. So yesterday I filed this bug to re-add a "do-release-upgrade" test. It'll get added: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1172452
[14:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172452 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Testcase Needed: Server Upgrade Test" [Undecided,New]
[14:48] <dobey> rickspencer3: lol
[14:48] <stgraber> rickspencer3: ahah, yeah, for the next 10min until someone asks when they can upload to saucy ;)
[14:49] <smartboyhw_> balloons: Hurray wrong channel posting;P
[14:49] <ogra_> is it open yet ?
[14:49] <stgraber> balloons: ok, good. So I gave you a new testsuite for those tests, just let me know when you have the new testcase writen and I'll manually swap the IDs in the DB
[14:50] <balloons> stgraber, ohh.. excellent, thank you
[15:01] <smartboyhw_> Just think of it: All the changelogs will be saucy now:o
[15:04] <dobey> so subliminal
[15:23] <med_> I guess folks have 6 months to work on their release party recipe of "Saucy Salamander" appetizers.
[15:37] <kamal> hi Archive Admins -  please let me bring to your attention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/982889 ...
[15:37] <kamal> this Critical bug makes Raring yield a black screen on boot instead of the lightdm login for many systems ...
[15:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 982889 in OEM Priority Project precise "X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver" [High,In progress]
[15:37] <kamal> fixed packages (lightdm and plymouth) are already available in -proposed ...
[15:38] <kamal> is there any way they could be pushed into -updates immediately-ish?   its a pretty bad user experience without them.
[15:39] <infinity> kamal: I'll be looking at that in a sec, yeah.
[15:40] <kamal> infinity: thanks very much
[15:40] <slangasek> infinity: would you rather have me look at it?
[15:40] <cjwatson> saucy-changes exists, for the record
[15:40] <infinity> slangasek: Go nuts.
[15:41] <Laney> Are you going to copy juju-core out of backports?
[15:41] <infinity> slangasek: I already reviewed it once when I accepted it to -proposed, another set of eyes would be good.
[15:41] <infinity> Laney: No rush to do that.
[15:41] <Laney> no, just in general.
[15:41] <infinity> Laney: Oh, or do you mean from backports to saucy-proposed?
[15:41] <Laney> yes
[15:41] <Laney> Seeing handbrake ^ reminded me
[15:41] <infinity> (Which is so backward...)
[15:41] <infinity> Yeah.
[15:42] <infinity> I'll do that nowish.
[15:42] <slangasek> infinity: oh, this is just for -updates promotion?  hmm right... well I can't look at it for a bit anyway, and if it's just the -updates copy not sure it needs more review
[15:43] <infinity> slangasek: Alright, I'll JFDI.
[15:43] <kamal> well oiled machine, you guys are!
[15:43] <plars> The link to bug 1172572 has a typo in the url on the release notes (s/bug/bugs)
[15:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172572 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No option to continue from install type screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172572
[15:44] <xnox> plars: looking
[15:44] <infinity> kamal: Released as of the next publisher run.
[15:44] <kamal> infinity: thanks!
[15:45] <plars> Ah, I can edit
[15:45] <plars> odd, it wouldn't give me an edit option at first, but I am logged in
[15:48] <highvoltage> stgraber: heh, I see someone even submitted a deployment in Afrikaans.
[15:52] <stgraber> highvoltage: hehe, yeah. We had a few in foreign languages in the last batch I processed
[15:52] <cjwatson> doko: You can safely upload toolchain stuff now, though hold off a bit before accepting.
[15:53] <doko> cjwatson, uploaded base-files, did plan to do binary copies of three packages from a ppa. can these be done too at the moment?
[15:54] <cjwatson> Yes, but again just don't accept until I've checked that the first publisher run is good
[15:54] <doko> ok
[15:54] <doko> subscribed to saucy
[15:54] <doko> -changes
[15:54] <cjwatson> stgraber: Yeah, for next time, you actually actively mustn't change perms before we've created the new series, because it copies them from the previous one ...
[15:54] <cjwatson> stgraber: I'll fix things up now
[15:56] <stgraber> cjwatson: gah, yeah, I should have remembered that the init of a new series copies all the permissions from the previous one (after the whole mess we had to fix because of duplicate package sets entries)
[15:56] <ScottK> xnox: If you're going to take the plunge on boost, now would be the time to talk to doko about uploading it.
[15:57] <xnox> ScottK: i think i'm ok to upload it into unapproved right about now.
[15:57]  * xnox is just resigning changes at the moment.
[15:58] <slangasek> infinity: btw, just to be sure... the lightdm update got a versioned dep on plymouth, yes?
[15:58] <cjwatson> It did, proposed-migration noted it
[15:58] <infinity> slangasek: IIRC.
[16:00] <SpamapS> Hey shouldn't we change the default for queuediff to raring in ubuntu-archive-tools ?
[16:00] <rtg> ogasawara, I think we can delete the ubuntu-raring-lbm.git repo, yes ?
[16:00] <slangasek> infinity: checked and confirmed
[16:00] <infinity> SpamapS: Patience (but yes).
[16:00] <rtg> -EWRONGCHAN
[16:01] <cjwatson> SpamapS: yeah, missed that in my sweep - done
[16:06] <cjwatson> doko: OK, feel free to start accepting to saucy-proposed
[16:07] <cjwatson> doko: But security builds means it's a while 'til they'll start
[16:08] <doko> cjwatson, I know, I prepared at least some of these ;)
[16:08] <cjwatson> heh, ok
[16:11] <stgraber> I quickly did the copy of the raring manifest to saucy on the tracker, created the daily milestone, marked all the old milestones released and updated nusakan to point to the new milestone
[16:12] <stgraber> so whenever we get the first dailies they should auto-publish just fine
[16:12] <cjwatson> cool
[16:12] <cjwatson> I think I'll finish up shortly; done most of what I can do today
[16:13] <cjwatson> have fun :)
[16:13] <infinity> Beer o'clock.
[16:13] <infinity> Cheers.
[16:14] <doko> xnox, copied boost-defaults from the ppa
[16:15] <stgraber> infinity: have fun!
[16:17] <xnox> doko: ok.
[16:18] <xnox> doko: there is also the splitted mpi and boost1.53
[16:18] <xnox> doko: at http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/repo/
[16:18] <xnox> doko: can upload in 2 hours or so, but AFK at the moment.
[16:18] <doko> will be away the evening
[16:19] <ScottK> doko: I can accept his upload if you're OK with it.  I'll be around for another 4 -5 hours.
[16:20] <doko> sure
[16:21] <ScottK> xnox: ^^^ ping me.
[16:42] <doko> cjwatson, do the archives jobs on p.u.c. run again?
[16:55] <doko> cjwatson, infinity: once the gcc-defaults build is done, we should be good
[18:22] <balloons> a little release humor for you all.. I can't be the only one tickled by the fact we'll be supporting 12.10 longer than 13.04 :-)
[18:51] <xnox> ScottK: and everyone else AA: please wait for gcc-defaults to fully publish before accepting above boosts. I'd rather have them build by gcc4.8. And it's a package split so should be ok.
[18:54] <ScottK> xnox: OK.  Ping me if you notice it's ready.
[18:54] <xnox> ScottK: gcc is stuck somewhere mysterious....
[18:55] <ScottK> Lots of other builds today.
[18:55] <ScottK> Or more mysterious than that?
[18:55] <xnox> it's fully build, yet not published anywhere and not in the new/unapproved queues.
[18:55] <ScottK> It looks to me like the last publisher run didn't go.
[18:56] <ScottK> I was going to wait ten minutes and then scream if the next one doesn't.
[18:56] <xnox> meh.
[19:09] <ScottK> slangasek, cjwatson, infinity, wgrant, whoever: I don't think the publisher is running.  As an example, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distro-info-data/0.13ubuntu0.1/+build/4520058 should have been published twice by now.
[19:51] <ScottK> Yeah, I think it's definitely dead.
[19:52] <ScottK> xnox: Is there some sekrit Canonical communication method you can use to get someone to fix the publisher?
[19:52] <slangasek> is it possibly off because of the archive opening for s?
[19:52] <ScottK> Not intentionally.
[19:53] <ScottK> cjwatson earlier told doko not to accept stuff until it had run once succesfully and then told him to go ahead.
[19:53] <ScottK> Also there's tool chain stuff that's trying to get built and out (e.g. gcc-defaults)
[20:00] <ScottK> slangasek: ^^^
[20:01] <slangasek> ok, let's see if that's something I can fix
[20:01] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:02] <slangasek> according to the logs, the publisher ran at 19:30 (ish) UTC
[20:03] <slangasek> and is still running
[20:03] <slangasek> oh; rather, the instance that started at 16:33 is still running; hmm
[20:12] <ScottK> First publisher run with a new distro and it takes ~forever?
[20:12] <ScottK> I don't recall that from before.
[20:14] <slangasek> well, stracing shows the process doing nothing useful
[20:14] <slangasek> so I suspect something's gone awry
[20:16] <slangasek> ah, crashed now with some OOPSes in the logs; maybe I managed to break it by stracing it
[20:19] <ScottK> Sounds like my work here is done.  Enjoy.
[20:19] <ScottK> ;-)
[20:28] <slangasek> I think it may be unwedged now; we'll see soon
[20:28] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:34] <ScottK> slangasek: win
[20:34] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:35] <slangasek> hurrah
[20:35]  * ogra_ applauds
[20:35] <ScottK> xnox: ^^^
[21:14]  * xnox hates the next sentence a lot!
[21:15] <xnox> slangasek: would you be able to turn britney on from raring to saucy? or is for cjwatson  / infinity to do?
[21:17] <slangasek> xnox: mmm, I probably can if someone can tell me where it lives
[21:19] <xnox> slangasek: well the logs of it are exposed on people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive and trace from there?! .... so i'd think it's not far away from that place.
[21:20] <xnox> Laney: can I please have transition tracker? I pushed s/raring/saucy/ but it didn't auto-pull it seems.
[21:22] <slangasek> xnox: I'm pretty sure it runs on pepo, but it's not in the ~lp_archive user's homedir where IIRC britney used to be
[21:22] <xnox> ok. wait for colin then.
[21:27] <slangasek> ah, no, proposed-migration does seem to live on people.c.c after all.. let's see then
[21:46] <doko> accepted the two boost uploads. -proposed has 4.8 as the default, so everything is fine
[21:47] <ScottK> doko: publisher was broken earlier, so we were waiting for it.
[21:47] <doko> ugh
[21:49] <xnox> ScottK: i think slangasek unbroke it. But we'll see once boost builds =) as we need to "nudge" the archive somehow for a publisher to see what's happening =)
[21:49] <ScottK> Yes.  He did.
[21:49] <xnox> ScottK: doko: I see gcc published in proposed correctly.
[21:49] <ScottK> It would have only be recently though.
[21:49] <xnox> but britney isn't saucy yet.
[21:52] <doko> looks like everything I uploaded is published
[21:52] <slangasek> seems cjwatson committed the change, but it wasn't pushed to people.c.c; still not entirely sure that's the relevant place that it runs from, but have updated the checkout anyway
[21:54] <infinity> proposed-migration being off isn't a bad thing, per se.
[21:55] <xnox> fair enough =) it's just it would be helpful with boost transition i'm about to blast once boost1.53 builds and publishes.
[21:55] <slangasek> well, I'm fairly certain we don't want p-m trying to migrate from raring-proposed to raring, at the least :)
[21:56] <doko> p-m?
[21:56] <infinity> slangasek: Hence being off seems like the sane default for now. :P
[21:56] <infinity> doko: britney.
[21:57] <infinity> xnox: I don't see how britney would help your boost transition at all, since it all needs to happen in proposed anyway.
[21:57] <slangasek> infinity: I haven't turned it on or off.  I haven't even found an off switch for it.
[21:57] <infinity> slangasek: It's de-facto off right now.
[21:58] <infinity> slangasek: Colin and/or I were going to sort all that in the morning.
[21:58] <doko> weren't all these -propsed -> -raring messages coming from greenend.co.uk?
[21:59] <infinity> (Or Colin might do so when he gets in to Cambridge tonight if he can't sleep, but I'm about to pack up and go be somewhere not here)
[21:59] <xnox> infinity: true.
[21:59] <slangasek> infinity: what reason is there for me not to do that today, though?
[22:00]  * xnox will hack up a local transition tracker here to watch things, until laney pulls the new revision into ben on p.c.c
[22:00] <infinity> slangasek: Nothing compelling, I suppose, but no wildly compelling reason to do so, either, since this is all the usual toolchain staging period and such.
[22:03] <doko> infinity, I'm done with it
[22:03] <ScottK> xnox: Since everything except the dev packages is co-installable and there's a lot of boost stuff, I think it's good to let 1.53 go into the release pocket.
[22:04] <infinity> doko: boost, other bits.  Anyhow, there's no reason we MUST migrate right now, was my point.  Leaving things in proposed for a little while won't kill anyonw.
[22:04] <ScottK> True.
[22:04] <ScottK> infinity: If you have a moment, would you please accept my debootstrap SRU for raring.
[22:04] <xnox> infinity: just will make the first run big =)
[22:04] <doko> infinity, boost is already there as well, that's just the main/universe split which is running
[22:19] <xnox> ScottK: !!!!! fixing bugs in raring, before devel series!
[22:19]  * xnox not like
[22:19] <ScottK> Devel series isn't open.
[22:20] <xnox> ScottK: i'm not sure what you are talking about =) i'm uploading packages into it and they are building and publishing (almost) ;-)
[22:20] <ScottK> You're working on toolchain.
[22:20] <infinity> debootstrap counts.
[22:21] <ScottK> I just forward copied it.
[22:21] <ScottK> Should show up in a moment.
[22:21] <ScottK> distro-info-data probably does too.
[22:22] <ScottK> There you go.
[22:23] <infinity> ScottK: Oh, I bet that sent you an email about can't accept with pending publications in raring.
[22:23] <infinity> ScottK: Just re-copy after the next publisher run and accept.
[22:23] <ScottK> We'll find out.
[22:24] <ScottK> I already found out you can't copy the source before it's built.
[22:24] <infinity> Given that you can't have the same binary in the archive twice, that would be bad form.
[22:25]  * infinity packs up and leaves the office.
[22:31] <ScottK> muon got rejected for the same reason.
[22:31] <ScottK> Just resync'ed.
[22:32] <xnox> meh. going to sleep. will be blasting boost tomorrow.
[22:34] <ScottK> Yeah, binaries have to be published too ...
[22:34] <ogra_> some of the changes mails look odd
[22:34] <ScottK> Trying again ...
[22:35] <ogra_> (plymouth, xdiagnose and lightdm dont list their changelog entries )
[22:35] <doko> I'm promoting isl and cloog-isl, forgot about these and only did promote mpclib3
[22:39] <xnox> ogra_: syncs
[22:39] <doko> MIR was already granted, see #1119818
[22:39] <xnox> ogra_: carry over from raring-proposed/-updates
[22:43]  * ScottK has to go.
[22:43] <ScottK> If by some miracle another debootstrap appears for saucy, please accept it someone.