| jrwren | not looking forward to this 45min drive :( | 00:17 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | http://schiit.com/ | 00:48 |
| jjesse | awesome | 00:55 |
| jrwren | where is everyone? | 01:23 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: back of the shop | 01:23 |
| jjesse | taking a nap? | 01:23 |
| jrwren | there is a back? | 01:23 |
| rick_h_ | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AdeOshineye/posts/eZAuPA2JH5U | 01:44 |
| rick_h_ | the response http://bigjools.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/error-handling-in-go/ | 01:58 |
| rick_h_ | the original http://blog.labix.org/2013/04/23/exceptional-crashes | 01:58 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 11:43 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:43 |
| rick_h_ | OMG! the backup finally just stopped | 11:50 |
| rick_h_ | lol "18152994.43 bytes/sec" | 11:50 |
| rick_h_ | 1059642061750 bytes received | 11:51 |
| rick_h_ | doesn't say how long it actually spent in transfer though | 11:53 |
| snap-l | That's what the time command is for. :) | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | well I should have thought of that a day ago :P | 12:03 |
| snap-l | Yeah, hindsight and all | 12:05 |
| snap-l | BTW: It's bring your daughters and sons to work today | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: ooh, fun day | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | having a typing contest :) | 12:06 |
| snap-l | Apparently there's still a legend 'round these parts about the typing contest. :) | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.wordsperminutetest.com/ | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 12:06 |
| snap-l | I was introduced as the rick_h_ replacement | 12:06 |
| snap-l | I corrected, and said I was the rick_h_ dilletante. ;) | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | lol, you must compete in my stead! | 12:06 |
| snap-l | Yeah, not happening. :) | 12:08 |
| snap-l | It'd be like watching walker races at the assisted living facility. | 12:08 |
| rick_h_ | those can be entertaining | 12:08 |
| snap-l | Raring Ringtail is released. | 12:13 |
| flipsidecreation | loading Raring Ringtail then sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping | 12:16 |
| brousch | I can see greg-g on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bJXXckWLc0E#! | 13:39 |
| flipsidecreation | brousch: wow | 13:42 |
| jrwren_ | glad its not bring your daughters and sons to work today here. my daughter is home sick :( | 13:42 |
| brousch | jrwren_: Work from home! | 13:44 |
| jrwren_ | running do release upgrade :) | 13:44 |
| jrwren_ | brousch: a great idea! | 13:44 |
| jrwren_ | i don't work from home much though. I'm a lazy mofo and keep work at work and play at home. | 13:45 |
| jrwren_ | oh sweet, network manager may be going away: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-converged-network-stack | 13:52 |
| snap-l | As long as things don't break, I'm OK with whatever they use. | 14:06 |
| jrwren_ | crap... new tmux with protocol version change. AFAICT i can't upgrade the the tmux package to raring without entirely reseting tmux :( | 14:28 |
| snap-l | What did they change? | 14:29 |
| snap-l | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/iterm2-discuss/B2ZXG-_WZE8 | 14:29 |
| snap-l | Ah | 14:29 |
| jrwren_ | wow, smosers name is all over the change logs for new raring packages. isc-dhcp and kmod. well done smoser | 14:32 |
| smoser | :) | 14:36 |
| snap-l | Saucy Salamander? | 15:03 |
| snap-l | http://www.saucysalamander.com/ | 15:04 |
| flipsidecreation | I was hoping for Sensual Sasquatch | 15:06 |
| greg-g | oh yeah, today's the official bring your kids to work, oops | 15:30 |
| flipsidecreation | I am skipping that holiday as well too | 15:31 |
| ColonelPanic001 | is it? | 15:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | crap | 15:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | that explains the short person around here | 15:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | seriously I heard some kid over on the other side of the cubefarm | 15:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | why would I bring my kid here? to watch me type? | 15:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | good thing they don't exist | 15:33 |
| Blazeix | snap-l: fyi, my coworker used your ting referral code | 15:33 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Awesomesauce. Thank you! | 15:34 |
| flipsidecreation | My kids come to work with me from time to time, not much work gets done | 15:34 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm having headphone appreciation day. | 15:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm still tossing around the idea of Ting. Not sure if I'm in contract now or not,a ctually, should check that | 15:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | but then I think I might not be able to use the phones at work. That's a bit of an issue | 15:34 |
| snap-l | Not that I mind, but I have a rare bout of focus that I'd like to hold onto | 15:34 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: Simple test: How does Sprint service work in your area? | 15:35 |
| greg-g | brousch: waaaaay too tall for me, that stuff scares me | 15:35 |
| ColonelPanic001 | never been on sprint, beats me | 15:35 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: ask around. | 15:35 |
| ColonelPanic001 | UnFixed: didn't you change to Ting? How is it in MidTown? | 15:36 |
| snap-l | I know that requires that "hyoo-man con tact" but... ;) | 15:36 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I guess you wouldn't know for Downriver | 15:36 |
| ColonelPanic001 | snap-l: nonsense, that's what SMS is for :) | 15:36 |
| snap-l | heh | 15:36 |
| UnFixed | Sprints pretty good in midtown | 15:36 |
| UnFixed | ive always got a decent signal | 15:37 |
| UnFixed | HOWEVEr | 15:37 |
| UnFixed | i there isnt any LTE for sprint in detroit yet | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Or 4G | 15:37 |
| UnFixed | so 3G | 15:37 |
| UnFixed | tmobile's HSPA+ was faster | 15:37 |
| UnFixed | but honestly, i dont notice it much. | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, just saw an announcement that several spots in Indiana were getting LTE | 15:37 |
| snap-l | I'm sure the cornfields will appreciate the enhanced data | 15:38 |
| snap-l | Bay City, MI | 15:39 |
| snap-l | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/01/16/sprint-announces-28-new-lte-markets-going-live-in-the-coming-months/ | 15:39 |
| UnFixed | yeah | 15:39 |
| snap-l | Saginaw, MI | 15:39 |
| UnFixed | ting mentioned it on their blog also | 15:39 |
| snap-l | Last I saw there weren't any MI locations, so this is an improvement | 15:39 |
| snap-l | Should I ever leave the house and decide to head to Bay City or Saginaw | 15:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I don't really care about 4g, etc. I use wireless networks around here anyway | 15:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and all I do as far as data on the phone is reddit anyway | 15:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | reddit/email | 15:40 |
| snap-l | Yeah you should be OK | 15:40 |
| UnFixed | yeah | 15:41 |
| snap-l | Only gotcha I had with Sprint is my neighborhood is the dead zone for every carrier | 15:41 |
| UnFixed | and working on campus, wifi is everywhere | 15:41 |
| snap-l | TMo, AT&T | 15:41 |
| snap-l | I think Verizon as well | 15:41 |
| UnFixed | my only gripe is some parts of my house get a spotty signal | 15:41 |
| UnFixed | top floor is fine | 15:41 |
| UnFixed | and i dont have a landline | 15:41 |
| UnFixed | its not awful | 15:42 |
| snap-l | Yeah, we have to keep our landline | 15:42 |
| UnFixed | but can get choppy call quality in the worst spots | 15:42 |
| snap-l | Thought about getting the Airrave | 15:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I don't call people anyway | 15:42 |
| UnFixed | i dont want to pay for the airrave | 15:42 |
| UnFixed | not worth the price to me | 15:42 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: So tell me again why you're getting a phone? | 15:42 |
| snap-l | Quality Reading on the toilet? | 15:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | now and then, people call me | 15:43 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and Text messaging | 15:43 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and reddit | 15:43 |
| UnFixed | ColonelPanic001: are you looking at ting? | 15:43 |
| UnFixed | i have not read scrollback | 15:43 |
| ColonelPanic001 | not seriously, but it does sound enticing | 15:43 |
| ColonelPanic001 | as in, cheaper | 15:43 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: Honestly, Ting makes sense for you | 15:44 |
| snap-l | the less you use, the less you pay | 15:44 |
| UnFixed | well | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, UnFixed mentioned that once - that is pretty nice | 15:44 |
| UnFixed | thing is | 15:44 |
| UnFixed | he can use work phones, since hes in a group that does android dev | 15:44 |
| snap-l | (https://z6oc11q87.ting.com/ <- my referral code) | 15:44 |
| UnFixed | but | 15:44 |
| UnFixed | if you go with ting, you're tied down to your phone | 15:45 |
| UnFixed | its not like GSM | 15:45 |
| snap-l | Right, it's a Sprint-only device. | 15:45 |
| UnFixed | where you just switch out your sim card. | 15:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | whut | 15:45 |
| UnFixed | you have to use your sprint/ting phone | 15:45 |
| snap-l | Sprint and Verizon are CDMA-based. | 15:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | How very vendor-locky-in of them | 15:45 |
| snap-l | and they're incompatible with each other. | 15:45 |
| UnFixed | yes | 15:45 |
| UnFixed | though iirc, cdma actually has a lot of benefits over gsm | 15:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | anything I'd notice or care about? | 15:46 |
| snap-l | However, if you're not planning on doing travel, and aren't one to switch phones all the time, it might make sense. | 15:46 |
| UnFixed | no | 15:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I don't travel much, and I switch phones, but not commonly | 15:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and that's because they're not mine | 15:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it's not a deal-breaker | 15:46 |
| UnFixed | so | 15:48 |
| UnFixed | my billing period ends in 7 days | 15:49 |
| UnFixed | and im currently at $15 | 15:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | nice | 15:50 |
| * ColonelPanic001 sends text messages | 15:50 | |
| UnFixed | i actually have very little sms usage | 15:50 |
| UnFixed | i text almost exclusively through google voice | 15:51 |
| UnFixed | which is just data | 15:51 |
| UnFixed | ive got another 80 messages before i get changed for mroe | 15:51 |
| UnFixed | ive used ~20 | 15:51 |
| UnFixed | and most are probably from _stink__ | 15:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I can send 80 SMSes in a week | 15:53 |
| ColonelPanic001 | time to increase your bill | 15:53 |
| UnFixed | D: | 15:53 |
| === _stink__ is now known as _stink_ | ||
| snap-l | So, how about that afternoon? | 16:58 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hi | 17:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | afternoon is okay | 17:03 |
| greg-g | not here yet | 17:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Penguicon tomorrow. You doing your traditional "record an episode at Pcon"? | 17:03 |
| rick_h_ | so have I missed anything today? | 17:05 |
| * rick_h_ looks up for the first time since this morning | 17:05 | |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Apparently 13.04 was pinched off. | 17:10 |
| greg-g | gross | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | oh yea. that was today? :P | 17:15 |
| snap-l | greg-g: You just chose to take it that way. ;) | 17:15 |
| brousch | nice | 17:15 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Shuttleworth pinched off a loaf of Linux | 17:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | no jokes about kernels in it | 17:16 |
| greg-g | snap-l: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pinch_one_off | 17:16 |
| greg-g | KORN! | 17:16 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I said "pinch off", as in the floral sense. | 17:17 |
| greg-g | oh, it's fragrent | 17:17 |
| snap-l | (yes, I had to look that corner case. ;) ) | 17:17 |
| greg-g | :) | 17:17 |
| jrwren_ | wtf are you people talking about? | 17:19 |
| greg-g | nothing | 17:19 |
| brousch | jrwren_: lemur scat | 17:19 |
| jrwren_ | gross | 17:19 |
| snap-l | and we now know one of brousch's hobbies | 17:19 |
| flipsidecreation | and much to my disappointment 13.10 is being called Saucy Salamander and not Sexy Sheep | 17:23 |
| jrwren_ | i wanted slimy succubus | 17:23 |
| brousch | flipsidecreation: Are you from New Zealand? | 17:23 |
| flipsidecreation | Irish heritage | 17:24 |
| brousch | I'm hoping for Tantalizing Tarsier. Tarsiers are my favorites | 17:25 |
| ColonelPanic001 | so much potential when they come back to "F" | 17:27 |
| greg-g | brousch: I got it, don't worry | 17:28 |
| greg-g | wait, Canonical is using "ubunt.eu" as it's shorturl domain? I.... uh.... | 17:31 |
| snap-l | Probably because .tu would make Canonical part of some export restrictions | 17:39 |
| snap-l | Assuming it even exists. ;) | 17:40 |
| snap-l | Hah, it doesn't. | 17:40 |
| snap-l | Maybe Canonical could buy a country and apply for the .tu domain? | 17:41 |
| snap-l | TLD rather? | 17:41 |
| greg-g | snap-l++ | 17:43 |
| snap-l | So, who got their WWDC tickets? | 17:49 |
| snap-l | Apparently they're going for Code Mash levels of not-getting-a-ticket. | 17:49 |
| devinheitmueller | I feel like I should hold a conference called WWCD down the street from there the same week, for the thousands of people who couldn't get tickets to WWDC. | 17:55 |
| snap-l | World Wide Convention Dyslexia? | 17:57 |
| devinheitmueller | HA! | 17:57 |
| snap-l | devinheitmueller: OK to post that to the intertubes w/ your name on it? | 17:59 |
| devinheitmueller | Be my guest. :-) | 17:59 |
| snap-l | posted. :) | 17:59 |
| jrwren_ | i think WWDC is about 10 times bigger than codemash, but I could be wrong. | 18:09 |
| greg-g | heya, anyone in here know an example of where a FLOSS project's community "elects" (for some value of elect) the release manager for the next X period of time? | 19:16 |
| greg-g | I was told django and python do, but I can't find any documentation on it. | 19:16 |
| jcastro | I believe Xorg does/did | 19:16 |
| jcastro | I think they rotate and choose at their conference | 19:16 |
| greg-g | OpenStack does, through the Tech Committee | 19:16 |
| brousch | greg-g: I don't think Python elects | 19:16 |
| greg-g | jcastro: cool | 19:16 |
| brousch | If they elect, it is just core devs who vote | 19:16 |
| greg-g | brousch: that's acceptable (I'm just looking for examples) | 19:17 |
| jcastro | I don't know the details, but I remember them (Xorg) announcing things like that on the mailing list. | 19:17 |
| greg-g | jcastro: coolio, I'll take a look | 19:17 |
| brousch | greg-g: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/127733 | 19:18 |
| greg-g | brousch: hah, thanks | 19:19 |
| snap-l | http://www.ismytwitterpasswordsecure.com/ | 19:32 |
| flipsidecreation | Ha | 19:32 |
| flipsidecreation | Dam it! it won't let me check! | 19:33 |
| snap-l | turn off javascript and try it. | 19:33 |
| * greg-g viewed source on that page when he first saw it | 19:34 | |
| greg-g | jcastro: what happened in March that caused the number of open blueprint items to jump so much? http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/ | 19:50 |
| greg-g | the whole "rolling release fiasco" was in feb | 19:50 |
| rick_h_ | lol, fiasco? | 19:50 |
| greg-g | the email that Steve L sent suggesting the move to a rolling release that caused a lot of uproar | 19:51 |
| rick_h_ | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-unity-apis.html seems to have hur but it's 13.10 for some api/backend stuff? | 19:51 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: yeah, looks like that's the only group that jumped in March | 19:53 |
| greg-g | blame it on Unity | 19:53 |
| greg-g | ;) | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | works for me! :) | 19:53 |
| greg-g | but... | 19:54 |
| greg-g | on the unity one, the jump was only like 20 work items, on that big overgraph, it's hundreds | 19:54 |
| jcastro | greg-g: yeah I think all the mir/unitynext crap got piled on | 19:54 |
| greg-g | oh, MIR! | 19:54 |
| greg-g | right! | 19:54 |
| greg-g | that makes sense | 19:54 |
| jcastro | that + moving to 3 month UDS cycles confused everyone I think | 19:54 |
| jcastro | I have no idea what the status of my raring items are | 19:55 |
| jcastro | I moved them all over to 13.03 | 19:55 |
| * greg-g nods | 19:55 | |
| brousch | Crap. A 2 year old SSD just died on me | 23:31 |
| rick_h_ | :( | 23:31 |
| brousch | Gonna be a fun night installing windows | 23:31 |
| brousch | hm, 3 year warantee | 23:33 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: what brand? | 23:35 |
| brousch | OCZ | 23:35 |
| snap-l | Ugh | 23:36 |
| snap-l | That's my biggest fear with SSD | 23:36 |
| rick_h_ | I don't know why it's more than any other drive | 23:37 |
| rick_h_ | but I will say I'm not an OCZ fan so I'm keeping quiet | 23:37 |
| brousch | The bad part is how suddenly it fails | 23:38 |
| brousch | With a hard drive you have weeks to years of grinding noises | 23:39 |
| brousch | This thing worked fine for 2 years, then one reboot it's totally gone | 23:40 |
| brousch | 3 year warranty is unexpected | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | good ones are 3 or 5 | 23:41 |
| rick_h_ | intel 520s are 5yr | 23:41 |
| rick_h_ | crucial's are 3 I think | 23:41 |
| rick_h_ | yea, 3yr on the m500 models and such | 23:42 |
| rick_h_ | woot! expanding the nas volume now. from 1.79 to 2.72TB | 23:43 |
| brousch | nice | 23:50 |
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