[00:01] <javier> hello. I have an nvidia geforce gt640 and running 12.10 fresh install. can someone help me install the 310.44 nvidia driver
[00:02] <tyrog> ddssc: What have you done?
[00:02] <ddssc> javier, good luck with that. do you happen to also run an optimus system?
[00:02] <ddssc> tyrog, what the other guy told me. added his repo. updated. upgraded. installed nvidia-319 . fubar'd
[00:02] <tyrog> I told you not to upgrade from xorg edgers
[00:02] <javier> no. why do you say good luck?
[00:03] <tyrog> You did it, you risked your system. Now ppa purge, or reinstall ubuntu
[00:03] <ddssc> tyrog, how do I ppa purge?
[00:03] <tyrog> Boot ubuntu into a terminal with network
[00:04] <ddssc> tyrog, aye. got terminal.
[00:04] <ddssc> for now
[00:04] <ddssc> it tends to throw random whatevertheheck errors tho
[00:04] <javier> in the reading that I have done, which was sporadic at best, I read that I can update the headers and the kernel and all should be right with the world. of course I have read a lot of stuff that wasn't accurate as well
[00:05] <tyrog> ddssc: now 'sudo apt-get install ppa-purge'
[00:05] <javier> should I just add the xswat repos and just grab the nvidia current instead?
[00:05] <ddssc> tyrog, got it
[00:05] <jmite> Has anybody been able to get AMD Catalyst (fglrx) drivers working on an AMD/Intel Hybrid laptop in 13.04?
[00:05] <ddssc> now what?
[00:06] <tyrog> 'sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers'
[00:08] <javier> is this a good enough way to go http://techhamlet.com/2013/04/install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[00:08] <GeneralMayhem> Where can I find the default color scheme for gnome-terminal?
[00:10] <tyrog> javier: Install Ubuntu 13.04, it is being released today
[00:11] <javier> I used wubi since I am not all that familiar with installing and setup from an iso. so how do I upgrade to 13.04 from 12.10
[00:12] <tyrog> Then go to the "Additional Drivers" tab in the Software Sources software, install nvidia-310-updates driver, reboot, done!
[00:12] <ddssc> tyrog, ok thanks. unity seems to have unfucked itself now :)
[00:12] <ddssc> pardon the french
[00:12] <tyrog> ddssc: lol
[00:12] <tyrog> You really need the 319 driver?
[00:13] <ddssc> tyrog, if you have any way to make my hdmi work, I'm listening
[00:13] <javier> tyrog thanks. worth a shot
[00:13] <ddssc> optimus machine, geforce 525m and intel combined
[00:14] <tyrog> ddssc: what graphics driver is currently installed?
[00:15] <ddssc> tyrog, Driver Unknown Experience Standard
[00:16] <tyrog> ddssc: after purging, you restarted right?
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> all of a sudden audio does not work on my machine. pavucontroll does not see the card but lspci does; any tips?
[00:16] <ddssc> tyrog, yep
[00:16] <tyrog> ddssc: re-add xorg-edgers
[00:17] <bkovacs> Ubuntu 13.04 release channel which one?
[00:17] <tyrog> bkovacs: #ubuntu-release-party
[00:17] <bkovacs> thanks
[00:18] <tyrog> ddssc: then install by yourself the nvidia-graphics-driver that matches 319.12 version
[00:18] <ddssc> tyrog, I do that through apt-get ?
[00:19] <RyanTG> I take it 13.04 is still rolling out to the mirrors.  I haven't found one with anything but beta-2 yet.
[00:19] <ddssc> tyrog, because if I do apt-get install without upgraded repo I get "package not found" error
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> My card is 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (rev 40)
[00:20] <tyrog> ddssc: yes. 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-319' . see if this works
[00:20] <ddssc> tyrog, ok
[00:21] <tyrog> RyanTG: Currently the ISOs are being tested
[00:22] <ddssc> tyrog, unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-319
[00:22] <ddssc> tyrog, I do see nvidia-319 and nvidia-319 dev and nvidia-settings-319 . I installed nvidia-319 before
[00:23] <_zoom_1> how to create virtual interface using NetworkManager
[00:23] <_zoom_1> ?
[00:23] <tyrog> ddssc: sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319
[00:24] <xexu> hi
[00:25] <xexu> Anyone here knows how monitorize IP addresses in a public chat, using Tor? I need help with that program
[00:25] <xexu> I have everything configured, but in the logbox doesn't appear anything
[00:27] <blob4000> is there a channel for questions about / problems with 13.04?
[00:27] <ddssc> xexu, Tor is not a "program for monitorizing IP adresses"
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> blob4000, #ubuntu+1 till tomorrow
[00:28] <xexu> is it not?? Oh sorry...
[00:28] <xexu> I work in a public chat, so I need monitorizing the activity of "bad" users
[00:29] <OerHeks> xexu that should be done server side
[00:29] <tyrog> ddssc: installed?
[00:29] <ddssc> tyrog, now my unity is fubar'd as per before. no left side/top menu. I can only use right mouse menu. also still Driver Unknown Experience Standard.
[00:29] <ddssc> asdf
[00:30] <tyrog> ddssc: after installing the driver, reboot
[00:30] <ddssc> tyrog, yes this is after reboot
[00:30] <xexu> mmm so is there any program that can do that??
[00:30] <tyrog> ddssc: Disable xorg-edgers (DONT purge it)
[00:30] <ddssc> xexu, there are irc scripts that can ban users when using blacklisted words. google it
[00:31] <ddssc> tyrog, didn't do anything other than install nvidia-319 and reboot
[00:32] <ddssc> also nvidia-settings-319
[00:32] <tyrog> now disable the xorg edgers ppa without purging it
[00:32] <tyrog> and add this one: ppa:canonical-x/x-staging
[00:32] <javier> how do i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 or do I have to wait until tomorrow
[00:32] <dr_willis> !upgrade | javier
[00:32] <xexu> ddssc, I'm reffering to a chat on the internet, like a webpage, there are a lot of users, and most of them have 2 or 3 accounts, so I want to ban them with their IP, cause they have different nicks
[00:33] <tyrog> javier: Better wait as upgrades are being tested right now
[00:33] <ddssc> xexu, well that depends on your chat software, doesn't it?
[00:34] <tyrog> ddssc: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:someppa/ppa to remove xorg-edgers
[00:35] <ddssc> tyrog, sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  ?
[00:36] <tyrog> yes
[00:36] <ddssc> ok
[00:37] <xexu> ddsc, I don't know if you use facebook, and their apps, so facebook has a few games, with a chat also, it works with flash, and the IP, that I can monitorize with tcpdump are dynamic IP (I guess), so I want to know if there are any method to monitorized the static IP, for banning the bad users.
[00:37] <ddssc> tyrog, added ppa:canonical-x/x-stagin
[00:38] <tyrog> now 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' then reboot
[00:39] <ddssc> xexu, tyrog, sigh... here goes
[00:39] <junkNown> If I install proprietary drivers without the use of package management, is that going to cause probems when I update ubuntu?
[00:39] <Rolenun> lol, got sound working and nearly jumped out of the room :D
[00:39] <ddssc> xexu, sry no idea about that. unless you're running the app on your system I don't think you can monitor other users bro :)
[00:40] <javier> hi again. I have 310.14 installed. How do I correct the overscan issue I am having?
[00:40] <xexu> ok, thanks for your help ;)
[00:40] <Rolenun> note to self....changing the audio output to the correct output while system is at 300% volume is not a good thing ....
[00:40] <xexu> I have monitorized their Ip with wireshark filtering the domain
[00:40] <xexu> but i'll try
[00:40] <GinTonicool> hi ,guys; in linux system ,is there a sofeware which  can works like IDM
[00:41] <ddssc> xexu, try #wireshark
[00:41] <junkNown> If I install proprietary graphics drivers without package management, could there be problems when ubuntu updates packages?
[00:43] <tyrog> junkNown: nvidia or ati?
[00:43] <junkNown> tyrog: ati
[00:43] <tyrog> junkNown: No problem. Follow the tutorial to manually install the drivers that is in the ubuntu community documentation
[00:44] <tyrog> by the way, why do you want to install the drivers manually?
[00:44] <junkNown> tyrog: I can manually install them and they work fine, but when installed with apt, unity breaks and won't load.
[00:45] <junkNown> tyrog: but even if I get them working manually, when I install ubuntu updates.... it breaks it completely
[00:45] <tyrog> junkNown: what is the gfx card? ubuntu version? and driver versions you are installing?
[00:45] <xexu> join /wireshark
[00:45] <xexu> ups
[00:46] <junkNown> tyrog: by breaks it completely, i mean i get a blank purple screen right after grub that doesn't go away. The gfx card is raedon hd 6950, ubuntu 12.10. I install the latest, 13.4 catalyst driver.
[00:47] <junkNown> tyrog: another thing worth mentioning, my cpu has integrated graphics. I'm concerned that could be part of the problem.
[00:47] <GinTonicool> hi ,guys; in linux system ,is there a sofeware which  can works like IDM ,thank you
[00:48] <GeekDube> Anyone want to help me diagnose a random crash event? I was playing minecraft, and then BAM, it went to a terminal-esque screen (light gray on black), and said some things. I checked the system for log files, and found the relevant log: http://pastebin.com/daMRet8A
[00:48] <javier> so it does not appear that I have an overscan slider in the nvidia 310.14 driver from the software sources installed driver
[00:48] <tyrog> junkNown: Did you follow the instructions from the documentation?
[00:49] <tyrog> ubuntu community documentation, i mean
[00:49] <xexu> gintonicool, have you tried jdownloader??
[00:49] <tyrog> !ati
[00:49] <GinTonicool> jdownloader ?i've heard it
[00:50] <GinTonicool> XEXU,does jdownloader work well ?
[00:50] <tyrog> junkNown: start reading from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_12.6.2C_special_case_for_Intel.2BAC8-AMD_hybrid_graphics
[00:51] <xexu> yes
[00:51] <ddssc> tyrog, updated. upgraded. still same empty deskto unknown driver. :/
[00:51] <GinTonicool> jdownloader works in wine ?
[00:51] <xexu> I've never tried IDM, but jdownloader i think it's similar
[00:51] <tyrog> ddssc: sorry, cant help you further, as I don't have an optimus card :P
[00:52] <xexu> You can install jdownloader without wine
[00:52] <ddssc> tyrog, when running update I got many 404 errors. for canonical-x/x-whatever in particular
[00:52] <junkNown> tyrog: that is the method I have used. Like I said, it works fine until I download any ubuntu software updates
[00:52] <xexu> It has support in ubuntu
[00:52] <GinTonicool> xexu, can jdownloader use proxy?
[00:52] <javier> any ideas?
[00:52] <tyrog> junkNown: Yep, each time a new update to the kernel arrives, it should break
[00:52] <tyrog> because it doesnt create a KMS
[00:53] <n-iCe> any idea in how to share my internet with wifi direct?
[00:54] <xexu> yes GinTonicool
[00:54] <junkNown> tyrog: So is there any easy solution other than avoid updating the kernel? If I uninstall manually, update, then reinstall.... will that work?
[00:54] <tyrog> junkNown: Try the method right above from that
[00:54] <tyrog> basically these are the steps
[00:55] <tyrog> sudo apt-get install dh-make dh-modaliases execstack
[00:55] <tyrog> sudo sh amd-driver-installer-13-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal
[00:55] <johnjohn1011> so i want to clone my hard drive.  is it best to do it off a live cd?
[00:56] <tyrog> then it should give you an error. If it does, do 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[00:56] <javier> tyrog do you know how I can fix the overscan? I do not have the slider in the nvidia settings
[00:56] <GinTonicool> xexu ,thank you ,i'll try
[00:56] <tyrog> javier: No :P , I don't have nvidia card, sorry
[00:56] <xexu> ok your welcome ;)
[00:56] <javier> ok, thanks
[00:57] <junkNown> tyrog: alright i'll give this a shot! thanks
[00:58] <javier> do you happen to know why i get a hang when i use nvidia-settings --assing CurrentMetaMode = "DFP-1: 1920x1080 {ViewPortOut=1850x1055+25+40}"
[00:58] <Ben64> javier: it should be a setting on the tv
[00:58] <ddssc> tyrog, now I can't even do purge-ppa. woopty doo
[00:58] <javier> there is not a setting on the tv
[00:59] <Ben64> javier: there is if you have a good tv
[00:59] <javier> i have a samsung and the options are just scan or 16:9
[00:59] <tyrog> ddssc: whats the problem with ppa-purge? what are you purging?
[00:59] <javier> there isn't an overscan option or a picture resize
[01:00] <javier> when I was running ubuntu before there was a slider in the nvidia settings manager to adjust the overscan, and there isn't one now
[01:00] <Ben64> it's not labeled that, but there is a setting
[01:00] <Ben64> i have a samsung tv
[01:02] <ddssc> tyrog, xorg-edgers obviously. but now the other thing you told me to add and upgrade to is throwing errors.
[01:02] <ddssc> tyrog, canonical-x/x-staging 404 no found etc
[01:03] <SkinnyV> Anybody familiar with vsftp? I'm trying to figure out how to edit it so I can access the WWW folder and upload file there through my FTP client
[01:03] <tyrog> ddssc: that wasn't supposed to happen. Its a normal ppa, just like any other :P
[01:03] <javier> well i just went thru all the options and the only one that refers to picture size are as I listed. I know it is an overscan issue because in 4:3 the sides and tops are still cut off
[01:03] <tyrog> And concerning xorg edgers, you cant purge it, because you disabled it. Re-enable it and purge
[01:03] <ddssc> tyrog, well... it's happening. Warning apt-get update failed for some reason. FOR. SOME. REASON. :))
[01:03] <tyrog> lool
[01:03] <Ben64> javier: yep, which is why you have to tell the tv to not cut off the edges
[01:04] <javier> ok. I have a samsung 56 inch
[01:04] <javier> and not sure how to do that
[01:04] <ddssc> fuck it. I'll just use windows... been mucking about 4 days with this thing with no luck. now I'll most likely have to install ubuntu again just so I can try that tutorial thing I should've done in the first place...
[01:04] <Ben64> javier: what model
[01:05] <tyrog> ddssc: You are giving up too soon
[01:05] <ddssc> tyrog, ye well 4 days trying to get my graph card to work are a lot in my world :F
[01:05] <sybian> i need help with darmok
[01:05] <fyksen> I have just installed Ubuntu 13.04. Should I ask my question here, or in ubuntu+1?
[01:05] <javier> its a samsung lcd
[01:06] <tyrog> ddssc: The drivers are in beta. There are people with issues on the web, some of them solved. Just do as they did
[01:06] <Ben64> ddssc: what card
[01:06] <ddssc> geforce525M , optimus
[01:06] <Ben64> oh
[01:06] <Ben64> well that explains why you want the newest drivers
[01:07] <fyksen> I have just installed 13.04. Everything is set up, but I can't change the mouse sensitivity under mouse settings. Just the Left/right and the toubbleclick
[01:07] <tyrog> fyksen: +1 , ubuntu 13.04 is not officially released yet
[01:07] <ddssc> actually I just want my hdmi to work. don't care about nvidia or 3d or games or anything..
[01:07] <fyksen> tyrog, ty
[01:07] <junkNown> tyrog: This method didn't work either, log in screen comes up, then log in and I get no unity. :(
[01:07] <tyrog> junkNown: do you have the package 'linux-headers-generic' installed?
[01:08] <tyrog> i forgot about that one :P
[01:08] <junkNown> tyrog: yeah :(
[01:08] <Ben64> junkNown: whats the output of uname -a
[01:08] <tyrog> junkNown: did sudo aticonfig --initial ?
[01:09] <junkNown> tyrog: yes i did
[01:09] <GinTonicool> xexu ,are you still here ?
[01:09] <junkNown> Ben64: Linux jarvis 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:09] <tyrog> junkNown: do 'sudo amdconfig --adapter=all --initial -f' instead
[01:09] <tyrog> whats the output?
[01:10] <javier> so is this cutoff because of the hdmi or can it be resolved using a dvi?
[01:10] <GinTonicool> can jdownloader work in debian,and which edition can work in debian 2.6.32?
[01:10] <junkNown> tyrog: Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[01:10] <junkNown> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <junkNown> Saving back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-2
[01:10] <tyrog> before reboot
[01:10] <tyrog> w8
[01:11] <Ben64> javier: hdmi is dvi, but if you have dvi on the tv, it probably won't cut that off
[01:11] <Ben64> javier: but i'm telling you, there is a setting in the tv somewhere to disable overscan
[01:11] <javier> just looked. I don;t have one
[01:12] <javier> man i wish there was. i have been thru every setting and there isnt one
[01:12] <phantomcircuit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro
[01:12] <phantomcircuit> i think the wiki is broken
[01:12] <phantomcircuit> cause
[01:12] <phantomcircuit> MacBookPro (last edited 2008-08-06 17:00:24 by localhost)
[01:12] <tyrog> junkNown: whats the output of 'glxinfo |grep OpenGL' ?
[01:12] <phantomcircuit> that makes no sense
[01:12] <Ben64> javier: you must have missed something
[01:12] <FloodBot1> phantomcircuit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:12] <javier> so i need to do it at the pc as I have done when i was using my built in ati
[01:12] <Mavrik> Ben64, um, ATi devices have overscan issues even on Windows, and have to be fixed by settings in drivers
[01:12] <Mavrik> nothing to do with TVs
[01:12] <Mavrik> (most TVs don't have overscan settings for HDMI anyway)
[01:12] <ddssc> it just dawned on me. it's 2013 and linux is still not desktop ready. :(
[01:13] <Ben64> ddssc: untrue
[01:13] <ddssc> Ben64, it's pretty true for me
[01:13] <Ben64> Mavrik: actually, almost every tv by default cuts off 5% on every side
[01:13] <junkNown> tyrog: X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[01:13] <Ben64> ddssc: it's because the dual gpu thing was tacked on and is different on many manufacturers
[01:13] <Mavrik> Ben64, mhm, but ATi devices have some additional overscan enabled by default
[01:13] <Mavrik> no idea why
[01:13] <tyrog> junkNown: now that you have done that command, reboot again
[01:13] <Mavrik> a common problem :\
[01:14] <tyrog> then come here tell the result
[01:14] <junkNown> ok
[01:14] <ddssc> Ben64, yes, that and : http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
[01:14] <Ben64> !fud
[01:15] <tyrog> ddssc: stop bitching plz :P . Your problem is nvidia's fault, not linus' or canonical
[01:16] <tyrog> ddssc: why don't you ask on the nvidia channel?
[01:16] <ddssc> tyrog, I beg to differ. there's just too many people 'bitching' at linux as a desktop machine. I've been using it as server tho and have no complaints of course
[01:16] <ddssc> desktop system that is
[01:16] <tyrog> ddssc: What statistics support that 'too many' argument?
[01:17] <ddssc> tyrog, oh I don't know, irl I've met at least 5 people who tried linux as desktop and failed miserably. and I don't even hang around linux-y people :)
[01:17] <Ben64> !ot
[01:17] <ddssc> aye
[01:17] <tyrog> By the way, if you feel Linux is not ready for desktop, why are you testing it for desktop?
[01:17] <ddssc> will do np
[01:18] <ddssc> tyrog, was thinking of using it as my main os.
[01:18] <tyrog> ddssc: Many people here are using Ubuntu as their ONLY desktop os
[01:18] <junkNown> tyrog: still looks the same. no unity.
[01:18] <tyrog> So their opinion must count, doesn't it?
[01:18] <ddssc> teehee
[01:18] <Mavrik> guys
[01:18] <Mavrik> take it somewhere else
[01:20] <ssfjhh> how to update paperwhite to 5.3.5?
[01:21] <tyrog> junkNown: The solution proposed in the Hybrid AMD/Intel section of the tutorial is probably your best bet then :P
[01:21] <tyrog> junkNown: What driver were you using before 13.4 came out today?
[01:22] <sam113101> is 13.04 out already?
[01:22] <Ben64> no
[01:22] <tyrog> ups
[01:22] <tyrog> to make clear: AMD 13.4 driver xD
[01:23] <sam113101> oh
[01:23] <junkNown> tyrog: I don't remember
[01:23] <junkNown> lol
[01:23] <tyrog> junkNown: was it proprietary, or opensource one?
[01:23] <junkNown> tyrog: proprietary for sure
[01:24] <tyrog> from repository, or AMD website?
[01:24] <whjms> d
[01:24] <whjms> oops
[01:24] <johnjohn1011> if i have an ext4 partition, will it be possible to expand it?
[01:24] <Ben64> yes
[01:24] <tyrog> johnjohn1011: providing you have space for doing that, yes
[01:25] <johnjohn1011> i am trying to move my ubuntu system to another hard drive. wife got me a 2 tb drive
[01:25] <johnjohn1011> i have no clue what to do. i don't want to reinstall
[01:25] <junkNown> tyrog: From AMD website, I had installed it manually without creating the deb package files. It worked fine until I updated ubuntu this morning.
[01:25] <Ben64> johnjohn1011: gparted can copy a partition from one drive to another
[01:26] <johnjohn1011> so do the copy and then resize after that?
[01:26] <Ben64> johnjohn1011: yeah, then you'd need to reinstall grub, and either take out the old drive or change UUIDs
[01:26] <tyrog> junkNown: Yep. You have to do the same for 13.4, unfortunately.
[01:27] <johnjohn1011> old drive is six years old.
[01:27] <Spaceghost> Hello, I am having a problem with a package of firefox, can someone help me if I put the pastebin with the errors?
[01:27] <Spaceghost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599825/
[01:27] <Spaceghost> Here there is.
[01:27] <johnjohn1011> would it be better to use somthing like clonezilla?
[01:27] <junkNown> tyrog: So then, should I always uninstall the amd drivers manually before I do any kernel updates and then reinstall? Would that be a workaround?
[01:28] <Ben64> johnjohn1011: nah
[01:28] <Ben64> junkNown: you'd have to install amd after kernel
[01:29] <Ben64> junkNown: or... get the drivers from apt-get so they update automagically
[01:29] <johnjohn1011> ben64: ok.  i guess i'll download gparted
[01:29] <Ben64> johnjohn1011: but if it's your boot partition, you need to do that from a livecd
[01:30] <junkNown> Ben64: :( this is what i just went through with tyrog... apt-get doesn't work... manually creating deb packages doesn't work... nothing works except installing manually
[01:30] <johnjohn1011> Ben64: i figured i would use a live cd
[01:30] <Ben64> junkNown: why doesn't apt-get work?
[01:30] <johnjohn1011> i saw some stuff about using dd
[01:30] <tyrog> junkNown: weird, considering there are some success cases with that approach :P
[01:31] <Spaceghost> Someone can help me?
[01:31] <junkNown> Ben64: I have absolutely no idea why... I use apt-get, it installs, I reboot and get login screen. login... and unity is not in existence... i'm in like low graphics mode or something.
[01:31] <karldotm> What do you need help with Spaceghost?
[01:32] <Spaceghost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599825/
[01:32] <Spaceghost> There is a package broken or something that doesn't let me install anything else.
[01:32] <machstem> hey guys
[01:32] <machstem> was hoping someone could help me
[01:33] <karldotm> Wow that's quite a bit unhappy install there
[01:33] <machstem> can i copy/paste my problem from #lubuntu ?
[01:33] <machstem> without causing a spam?
[01:33] <Spaceghost> karldotm: why? I tried deleting it, downloading again and always there is the same problem and error.
[01:33] <karldotm> Well, I mean the unmet dependencies, the perl errors, the locale problems
[01:33] <machstem> question regarding two CIFS shares not mounting through fstab on bootup on lubuntu-core
[01:34] <karldotm> And you tried the apt-get -f install ?
[01:34] <karldotm> you are doing this as root I assume .. ?
[01:34] <Spaceghost> Yes that it was it shows.
[01:34] <karldotm> or via sudo?
[01:34] <junkNown> tyrog, ben64: IS there a way I can completely disable the intel integrated gpu to see if that helps?
[01:35] <machstem> junknown: does your motherboard support turning it off?
[01:35] <Spaceghost> I tried it there in the pastebin.
[01:35] <tyrog> junkNown: trying to see some if there is some workaround available
[01:35] <junkNown> machstem: I looked into that, the options are auto, always enabled, and enable only if nothing is in PEG slot.
[01:36] <machstem> every1 busy helping others?  lemme know when someone can help me plz, been bugging me for two days now (googling)
[01:36] <karldotm> O
[01:36] <machstem> junknown:  Dell ?
[01:36] <karldotm> I'm old school :)
[01:36] <Spaceghost> Via sudo karldotm.
[01:36] <Spaceghost> Sorry, I just saw that you asked me.
[01:36] <karldotm> I doubt it will matter SG but try su'ing first
[01:37] <junkNown> machstem: no, it's a computer I built
[01:37] <Spaceghost> Ok
[01:37] <machstem> karldotm/spaceghost:  you're both active and seem helpful, my problem should be easy to fix if you can help plz
[01:37] <machstem> ok...
[01:37] <machstem> umm
[01:37] <machstem> there might be a dip on the board that would allow you
[01:37] <tyrog> junkNown: what is your ati gfx card model?
[01:37] <machstem> what kind of motherbord ?
[01:38] <junkNown> tyrog: amd radeon HD 6950
[01:38] <tyrog> machstem: weird considering that the driver works fine via the mannual approach, so the problem shouldn't be motherboard/bios based
[01:38] <junkNown> machstem: Gigabyte z68AP-D3
[01:38] <machstem> pm your original problem, been dealing with lots of weird misex gpu lately
[01:38] <junkNown> machstem: i'm looking at manual right now
[01:39] <machstem> tyrog:  sry, was answering him based on wanting to disable the card; i have no history (1st time on IRC on this box)
[01:39] <machstem> *no history of his problem
[01:39] <machstem> pm me the issues junknown
[01:39] <ant_man> i'm trying to strip down my 12.04 installation, mainly DE and DE related packages.  Anyone know a good how-to, or a can point me in the right direction?  (basically stripping it down to LXDE and a few graphical applications)
[01:40] <machstem> ant_man, i just built my lubuntu using a mini.iso minimal install
[01:40] <machstem> then just installed lubuntu-core and opted out of alot of it
[01:40] <tyrog> junkNown: what about the drivers from the repositories? do they work?
[01:40] <machstem> tyrog:  doesn't display on both adapters?
[01:42] <karldotm> Back. Sorry. I hate windows adware
[01:42] <tyrog> machstem: As far as i know Xorg is booting corrupted, not using the driver at all
[01:42] <karldotm> so mach.. what's up?
[01:42] <machstem> hey karl
[01:42] <machstem> sec, ill copy/paste my issue if yu can help
[01:42] <ant_man> machstem: will I be able to easily remote unity without any weirdness or conflict?  i guess that was my question from the start :)
[01:43] <Ben64> !nounity
[01:43] <machstem> you want to install unity ?
[01:43] <machstem> here is my problem:
[01:43] <machstem> trying to figure out why my fstab wont mount my two NAS shares, both public/guest account (no credentials needed) using cifs
[01:43] <Spaceghost> karldotm: it's weird, I can't login via su, the same password doesn't work by su way maybe because with sudo I am logging to space instead of root (?).
[01:43] <Ben64> !root | Spaceghost
[01:43] <machstem>  when i try to access them, tells me i dont have the permissions
[01:44] <machstem> i can sudo mount -a manually
[01:44] <machstem> but won't work at boot
[01:44] <karldotm> spaceghost sudo /bin/su -
[01:44] <Ben64> don't do what karldotm said
[01:44] <machstem> i installed lubuntu core
[01:44] <machstem> overtop of a mini.iso installation with minimal install
[01:44] <Spaceghost> You are confusing me.
[01:44] <Ben64> Spaceghost: start at the beginning. what are you trying to do
[01:44] <karldotm> well, I suppose some people aren't safe with a root prompt
[01:44] <Spaceghost> Ben64: install a package.
[01:44] <karldotm> again.. I'm old school
[01:45] <Spaceghost> I have this error
[01:45] <Ben64> karldotm: thats not even the right way to do it
[01:45] <Spaceghost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599825/
[01:45] <karldotm> Ben64: What is?
[01:46] <machstem> spaceghost:  what keyboard layout/regional setting do you have running?
[01:46] <tyrog> junkNown: we could try an workaround
[01:46] <Ben64> karldotm: sudo -i
[01:46] <Spaceghost> machstem: Spanish, why?
[01:46] <Spaceghost> Ignore the "LANG=EN" I put it because I wanted a English result to show it to you.
[01:46] <machstem> looks like the "locale" part is asking for a specific configuration, according to your log
[01:46] <machstem> ah k
[01:47] <machstem> im not 100% versed in linux
[01:47] <machstem> but i try and learn as i go
[01:47] <Ben64> its just a package problem.. looks like firefox was installed manually or something
[01:47] <Spaceghost> No
[01:47] <paul137> i'm having difficulty accessing my Pc from my Laptop with openssh
[01:47] <karldotm> Hmm.. interesting, looks good Ben64
[01:47] <Spaceghost> I used an automatic installer which came with Kubuntu.
[01:48] <machstem> paul137: does it ping ?
[01:48] <Spaceghost> Ben64: how can I solve it?
[01:48] <machstem> uninstall firefox and retry ?
[01:48] <paul137> i dont know how to do this
[01:48] <Spaceghost> And what is supossed to do with the root password?
[01:48] <machstem> sudo apt-get autoremove firefox ?
[01:48] <Ben64> Spaceghost: you don't need root password for it
[01:48] <machstem> dont try it, if im wrong lol
[01:48] <machstem> just throwing out suggestions
[01:49] <Spaceghost> machstem: I deleted the cache and download it again but I had the same problem.
[01:49] <Spaceghost> It's like that package is broken.
[01:49] <Ben64> might want to sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-firefox-installer
[01:49] <Ben64> but i'm not sure what you did to get it like that
[01:49] <Spaceghost> I am using 12.04 by the way.
[01:49] <machstem> would sudo locate firefox show you which ?
[01:50] <paul137> my pc is saying openssh is running but grep says deamon is not
[01:50] <machstem> does anyone have any tips for my issue? lol
[01:50] <machstem> is the port available ?
[01:50] <machstem> as in
[01:50] <machstem> does it give you a port already used ?
[01:50] <Spaceghost> Ben64: the same problem, it forces to me to do apt-get -f install before doing anything with packages.
[01:51] <Ben64> hmm
[01:51] <machstem> what does the software center let you do ?
[01:51] <machstem> in the GUI ?
[01:51] <machstem> can you find and see about removing it through there ?
[01:51] <machstem> i had an issue yesterday with removing an app through apt-get
[01:51] <tyrog> Spaceghost: if you are using 12.04, why is the output you pasted with references to quantal?
[01:52] <machstem> but it did its thing using the gui ubuntu software center
[01:52] <i386_> Hi
[01:52] <machstem> tyrog <--- ok, so i wasn't crazy
[01:52] <Spaceghost> tyrog: what is the problem?
[01:52] <karldotm> paul37 I sent you some queries
[01:52] <tyrog> Spaceghost: 12.04 is 'precise', 12.10 is 'quantal'
[01:52] <Spaceghost> How can I check what version I have?
[01:53] <machstem> does anyone have a tip for fstab ?
[01:53] <machstem> please
[01:53] <machstem> rly ansy about this stupid problem
[01:53] <machstem> i know it's something simple
[01:53] <Spaceghost> I am sure that I download the 12.04 because it was the LTS one.
[01:53] <paul137> i was able to ping my host computr
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> machstem, yeah the fstab wiki or man
[01:53] <karldotm> It wil be in /etc/os-release
[01:53] <karldotm> Spaceghost: /etc/os-release
[01:53] <tyrog> Spaceghost: then there is a problem with your repositories, since they are refering to 'quantal-updates'
[01:54] <paul137> i've got both ufw's on ACCEPT both in and outgoing
[01:54] <tyrog> are you sure you didn't upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 (the 'quantal' release)?
[01:54] <Ben64> tyrog: oh i didnt even see that, good catch
[01:54] <machstem> wilee-nilee:  trust me, i've been at this for 2 days now lol
[01:54] <machstem> did you read the issue?
[01:54] <machstem> it will load using sudo mount -a
[01:55] <machstem> but wont at boot
[01:55] <machstem> and i copy/pasted from a previous install of xubuntu that worked just fine
[01:55] <Spaceghost> There is no /etc/os-release.
[01:55] <machstem> error -22 i think i read, lemme check
[01:55] <Ben64> machstem: keep responses on one line... and explain in more detail
[01:55] <karldotm> Spaceghost: cat /etc/*release
[01:55] <machstem> ben64: k sry
[01:55] <Ben64> Spaceghost: lsb_release -r
[01:55] <tyrog> Ben64: look at this part: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1
[01:55] <tyrog> it is messed
[01:56] <tyrog> the versions
[01:56] <Ben64> yeah
[01:56] <karldotm> Actually - Ben64/Spaceghost lets make sure the /etc/lsb-release and lsb_release -r output agree
[01:57] <Spaceghost> Well
[01:57] <Spaceghost> I have 12.10 installed not sure why, maybe because I put upgrade or something.
[01:58] <tyrog> Spaceghost: you dont remember having done an upgrade from the update manager?
[01:59] <Kajover> Hi. Is there a time when 13.04 is going to be released?
[02:00] <tyrog> Kajover: no
[02:00] <Spaceghost> tyrog: I think that I upgraded yes.
[02:00] <Spaceghost> Any clue about how solve my problem?
[02:01] <Spaceghost> If I download other Firefox .deb maybe?
[02:01] <Ben64> thats probably what got you into the problem
[02:01] <tyrog> Spaceghost: Lets see. 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get -y upgrade' . Do this in the terminal
[02:01] <tyrog> Tell me if the first lines that follow the first command all relate to QUANTAL
[02:01] <cheeto_> anyone recomend a good ubuntu compatble "ultrabook"?
[02:02] <cheeto_> im looking for somethign around 13" thin and light
[02:02] <Mavrik> cheeto_, Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition fits the bill
[02:02] <Mavrik> cheeto_, ASUS Zenbook 13" models work well with Ubuntu as well
[02:02] <cheeto_> mavrik, yea but hte price is too high
[02:02] <Belial> cheeto_, anything with intel video and an atheros network card works well
[02:03] <cheeto_> mavrik i was thinking of buying the older dell xps 13 ultrabook off ebay
[02:03] <Mavrik> you're not getting decent ultrabook for no money -_
[02:03] <tyrog> cheeto_: intel graphics and wireless work the better
[02:03] <tyrog> Atheros wireless is good too
[02:03] <cheeto_> k
[02:03] <Spaceghost> tyrog: yess, all refer to Quantal.
[02:03] <tyrog> Broadcom too.  Realtek is hit or miss, but usually works
[02:04] <Spaceghost> But I had the same problem at the end with the Firefox package.
[02:04] <tyrog> Spaceghost: what gives 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[02:04] <tyrog> just the final lines
[02:05] <spencer_> Can I set ext4 to use the 4KB page size for SSD?
[02:05] <Spaceghost> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies:  firefox-globalmenu : Depends: firefox (= 20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[02:06] <Spaceghost> I am trying with -f now tyrog.
[02:06] <tyrog> and with -f you get what you pasted before right?
[02:06] <Spaceghost> No
[02:06] <Spaceghost> I was offered to download new packages.
[02:06] <tyrog> what you pasted in pastebin, i mean
[02:07] <Spaceghost> No
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> spencer_, Page size?
[02:07] <Spaceghost> Other thing.
[02:07] <Spaceghost> I will download it.
[02:07] <spencer_> wilee-nilee: I don't completely understand it but the page holds 4 blocks (erase blocks)
[02:08] <MrHatter> I just turned my screensaver off using : appearance-all settings-brightness and lock-turn lock off : what file did that edit ?
[02:08] <MrHatter> what is the easiest way to find out the config file for desktop items that get changed ?
[02:09] <Spaceghost> tyrog: I did and it finished with the same error.
[02:09] <blob4000> has anyone else lost the ability to open the About This Computer menu from the top right?
[02:09] <blob4000> in 13.04?
[02:09] <tyrog> Spaceghost: What about purging firefox? 'sudo apt-get purge firefox*'
[02:09] <Ben64> blob4000: #ubuntu+1 until release
[02:09] <blob4000> thanks!
[02:10] <Spaceghost> Package 'firefox' is not installed, so not removed You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  firefox-globalmenu : Depends: firefox (= 20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[02:10] <Spaceghost> tyrog: that^.
[02:12] <tyrog> Spaceghost: purge firefox*
[02:12] <tyrog> with the *
[02:13] <Spaceghost> "E: Unable to locate package firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb' E: Unable to locate package firefox-globalmenu_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'firefox-globalmenu_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb' E: Unable to locate package firefox-locale-en_20.0+bu
[02:14] <tyrog> Spaceghost: sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-firefox-installer
[02:15] <Spaceghost> The same problem:
[02:15] <Spaceghost> "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  firefox-globalmenu : Depends: firefox (= 20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). "
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> !paste | Spaceghost
[02:17] <Spaceghost> Did I paste multi-line? I reduced all lines in one.
[02:17] <tyrog> Spaceghost: sudo apt-get -f purge kubuntu-firefox-installer
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> Spaceghost, basically 1/3 of the hexchat page I'm looking at is paragraphs of the same exact info, use a pastebin please.
[02:18] <Spaceghost> tyrog: the same error.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> sorry 2/3rds
[02:18] <tyrog> Spaceghost: reboot and do as I said before doing anything else
[02:19] <tyrog> sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-firefox-installer
[02:19] <Ben64> i dont think any of that apt-get purge stuff will fix anything
[02:19] <Spaceghost> What about reboot?
[02:19] <Ben64> it'll still try to resolve dependencies first
[02:20] <tyrog> Ben64: Im not sure :S
[02:22] <kylin_> where to download live cd
[02:22] <Ben64> ubuntu.com
[02:23] <tyrog> Ben64: I dont know a way to bypass unmet dependencies either
[02:24] <kingsley> Where are the "boot=" and "iso-scan/filename=" kernel boot options documented?
[02:25] <asenk> If i try to remove tool called ifupdown, apt decides to pretty much remove everything
[02:25] <asenk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599909/
[02:25] <KI7MT> Hello all, quick question. I have a 12.04 box with a wireless conn to my main router, and nic1 to a small 5ort hub with 4 test workstation. How do I route the WS to get an IP addy from my main router, not the 10.xx.xx.x from the wireless box?
[02:25] <Ben64> asenk: then... dont do that?
[02:26] <asenk> what if i want to remove it?
[02:26] <Ben64> but you dont
[02:27] <junkNown> tyrog/machstem/Ben64: For whatever reason, I installed linux-headers-3.5.0-17 and now fglrx installed from aptitude is working.
[02:28] <junkNown> :D
[02:28] <Spaceghost> Ben64: so, you don't have any clue about how solve the problem?
[02:28] <tyrog> junkNown: I told you about the headers previously, you said you had them installed
[02:28] <Ben64> junkNown: cool.. just make sure to get linux-headers-generic
[02:28] <Ben64> Spaceghost: its been a while since ive had that problem... it'd help if you knew what you did originally
[02:29] <junkNown> tyrog: Yes, you said linux-headers-generic. That didn't work. But for some reason linux-headers-3.5.0-17 worked, unless i'm mistaken somewhere.
[02:29] <asenk> Ben64: thanks
[02:30] <tyrog> junkNown: like Ben64 said, with headers-generic you don't have to worry about installing the headers for each new kernel released via updates
[02:30] <usr13> jonathaN: It's just linux-headers  You are correct
[02:30] <l_r> hello
[02:30] <l_r> where is 13.04
[02:30] <l_r> it's 25th april
[02:30] <Ben64> #ubuntu+1
[02:30] <tyrog> l_r: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:31] <usr13> junkNown: It's just linux-headers  You are correct
[02:31] <Ben64> usr13: without the generic one it'll break every update
[02:31] <l_r> has the party begun?
[02:32] <Ben64> join and find out?
[02:32] <junkNown> Ben64: If I have both installed?
[02:32] <Ben64> junkNown: fine
[02:32] <l_r> every one is sleeping there
[02:32] <tyrog> junkNown: Why are you booting from 3.5.0-17 when there is *-27 available?
[02:32] <Ben64> it's still probably 24hrs away
[02:33] <junkNown> tyrog: I was using *-27 but i read someone got the fglrx drivers working by installing -17
[02:33] <junkNown> tyrog: Well also I dont' really understand how the kernels work. What if you install multiple?
[02:34] <Ben64> junkNown: and thats why generic didnt work for you
[02:34] <usr13> Ben64: Are you sure about that?
[02:34] <kylin_> how to chat with bot??
[02:34] <junkNown> tyrog: errrr multiple header files
[02:34] <tyrog> junkNown: you need the headers for the version you are booting in order to fglrx work correctly
[02:34] <tyrog> junkNown: There is no problem with that
[02:34] <Ben64> usr13: 100%
[02:34] <tyrog> Just like there is no problem with having multiple kernels installed
[02:35] <tyrog> apt will probably tell you to remove some packages with autoremove next time you run it for something
[02:35] <usr13> Ben64: junkNown Ok. I stand corrected.
[02:36] <tyrog> junkNown: what is the kernel you are running at the moment?
[02:37] <junkNown> tyrog: 3.5.0-27-generic
[02:37] <junkNown> tyrog: wtf!....
[02:37] <tyrog> that doesn't make sense
[02:38] <tyrog> having generic installed, fglrx didn't work and now you install the headers for -17 and it works? oh lord
[02:39] <junkNown> tyrog: hmmm... maybe i installed ubuntu today off of an old disk
[02:40] <tyrog> junkNown: anyway, you have the headers for -27 installed as well right?
[02:40] <junkNown> tyrog: yeah lol
[02:41] <tyrog> you could the 3 fglrx packages that were generated for catalyst 13.4 now
[02:41] <tyrog> make sure that it doesn't output any error from installing them
[02:41] <tyrog> *could try to install
[02:42] <Ben64> would be easier to stick with apt's versions
[02:42] <usr13> junkNown: lsb_release -r
[02:43] <tyrog> Ben64: I always use the ones from the website or some PPA and they work just as fine as the ones from repositories xD
[02:43] <Ben64> i use ppa, i would suggest staying away from the website
[02:44] <junkNown> I have tried using some PPA and I alwyas break things.
[02:44] <tyrog> Ben64: which one?
[02:44] <junkNown> I'm gonna try installing from the packages see what happens
[02:45] <Ben64> i use x-swat for nvidia
[02:45] <devral> what does "Redirect Host (New nexthop: [ip])" mean?
[02:46] <devral> the ping is successful, I've just never seen it before
[02:46] <tyrog> Ben64: but Xswat is always updated with the latest for NVIDIA. The same doesn't happen for AMD though
[02:47] <usr13> devral: Does it happen for every site you try to ping?
[02:47] <tyrog> Ben64: the driver from the AMD website provides the script to build packages optimized for each ubuntu release. So there should be no problem compared with the apt approach
[02:48] <tyrog> theoretically
[02:49] <gr33n7007h> Whats a decent torrent program for ubuntu?
[02:49] <gr33n7007h> That handles magnet links aswell
[02:49] <Ben64> deluge
[02:50] <usr13> !torrent | gr33n7007h
[02:50] <devral> usr13: no. i'm practicing a lab that involves two routing servers + a router in the middle. it happens when I ping from LAN1 across the simulated WAN link (my router redirects LAN1 to LAN2)
[02:51] <usr13> devral: Well,  it means that the packet was set along a different route to the destination then originally intended.
[02:51] <gr33n7007h> cheers
[02:52] <devral> usr13: how come it doesn't always do that then?
[02:52] <usr13> I dono
[02:52] <devral> guess as long as it works, i'm cool
[02:52] <devral> thanks
[02:54] <sgo11> hi, using ubuntu 12.10. gnome 3.6. Sometimes, I don't have sound after boot. I need to reboot to fix this issue. This happens randomly. Right now, my PC is silent. Can anyone tell me how to fix this issue without reboot? I tried logout and login, this does not help. thanks.
[02:56] <gbear14275> is 13.04 out?
[02:56] <citdel> not yet, in a few day
[02:56] <thoonai> hey
[02:56] <citdel> days*
[02:56] <kvothetech> sgo11: check consolekit permissions?
[02:56] <tyrog> citdel: *hours
[02:56] <gbear14275> delayed?
[02:57] <tyrog> gbear14275: no
[02:57] <thoonai> having a hostapd and a brigde not working, but no clue why
[02:57] <kvothetech> sgo11: alsa pulse oss?
[02:57] <sgo11> kvmadsen, will that help? this just happens randomly after boot. 10%.
[02:57] <sgo11> kvothetech, I am just wondering how to fix this issue temp without reboot the machine.
[02:58] <sgo11> It does not matter whether this problem is fixed completely for now. I just don't want to reboot my ubuntu. how can I restart the sound server somehow completely?
[02:59] <bassgeisha> hi
[03:00] <thoonai> bassgeisha: hi
[03:00] <olmari> sgo11: sudo restart pulseaudio, or something
[03:01] <gr33n7007h> sudo service pulseaudio restart
[03:02] <thinkerweb> Is the a channel for ubuntu software raid?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> thinkerweb, this one or #ubuntu-server
[03:02] <thinkerweb> cfhowlett, thx
[03:02] <sgo11> gr33n7007h, just did that. pulseaudio is restarted. but there is still no sound. how can this happen? Do I have to reboot? ...
[03:03] <gr33n7007h> sgo11, most probably
[03:04] <casual_llama> Hi, I've changed my theme to Greybird using Advanced Settings (Ubuntu 12.04). Is there a way to invert the text color for files and folders on my desktop? I can't read the text with a dark background.
[03:04] <sgo11> gr33n7007h, but why? ...
[03:05] <cfhowlett> casual_llama, appearance>style>high contrast>inverse  ???
[03:05] <cfhowlett> casual_llama, appearance>style>high contrast>inverse  ???
[03:05] <Laprim> er irc.irc-hispano.org
[03:06] <sgo11> anyway, anyway, I am going to reboot now. bye.
[03:07] <casual_llama> cfhowlett: That changes the theme from Greybird to High Contrast Inverse. I was wondering whether it's possible to work on the text of icons alone.
[03:08] <cfhowlett> casual_llama, sorry.   my bad.  see settings>appearance>icons
[03:08] <bassgeisha> thoonai, hellooo
[03:08] <thoonai> hey someone interested in helping me with hostapd and a not working bridge?
[03:08] <bassgeisha> i am deciding to dip my toes in the linux game again. been a minute since uhh 96 right
[03:08] <bassgeisha> so im dl ubuntu now
[03:09] <bassgeisha> is it going to need internet to work
[03:09] <bassgeisha> bc network isnt .. cooperating
[03:09] <bassgeisha> gonna have to plug directly into router
[03:09] <casual_llama> cfhowlett: I'm afraid I don't see such an option. I have 2 tabs: Look and Behavior. Behavior just has launcher auto-hide options and Look has theme, desktop background, and launcher size selection.
[03:09] <cfhowlett> bassgeisha, ubuntu will work without the internet
[03:10] <bassgeisha> win
[03:10] <cfhowlett> casual_llama, in xubuntu 12.04?
[03:10] <bassgeisha> will it install over the debian install now
[03:10] <cfhowlett> bassgeisha, not by default ... you have to select your install options
[03:10] <casual_llama> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 12.04, the default Unity flavor. I'm using Advanced Settings in order to select a theme that's normally not there.
[03:11] <cfhowlett> casual_llama, dang.  I REALLY need my coffee.  thought you were in xubuntu as I am.  Sorry.
[03:11] <sgo11> ok, problem fixed by reboot. I found one problem. When the problem exists, the user gdm does not run pulaseaudio --start and only my user is running pulseaudio --start. what can cause gdm user failed to run it? thanks.
[03:11] <cfhowlett> casual_llama, ask again in channel since I don't know
[03:11] <casual_llama> cfhowlett: Haha, thanks for trying.
[03:11] <thoonai> help! ;)
[03:11] <Ben64> sgo11: if i were you id just remove pulseaudio
[03:13] <sgo11> Ben64, I don't know much thing about this. I thought pulseaudio was required. will remove pulseaudio be OK? What sound server will be used instead? I did not install pulseaudio by myself by purpose. Does it exist by default? thanks a lot.
[03:13] <casual_llama> To all: Is there a way of changing the text under files and folders from black to something that would work with a dark background pic without changing the entire system theme?
[03:14] <Ben64> sgo11: remove will be fine, purge will break things, and yeah pulse is installed by default
[03:15] <sgo11> Ben64, if remove is fine, what sound server will be used instead? I thought pulseaudio is the application/server which provide sound. thanks.
[03:16] <Ben64> sgo11: pulse works on top of alsa, so you'd still have alsa. just be sure not to purge it
[03:16] <wwwdotcom> Hello there.  I am getting a weird problem in copying a file from a drive to other. I cannot copy the file. The error i am getting is "There was an error copying the file into /home/legend/Downloads/tor-browser_en-US/video.avi. Error splicing file: Input/output error"
[03:16] <thinkerweb> Is it easy to add a previous array from a previous installation to a new one?
[03:17] <wwwdotcom> What could be it?
[03:17] <derek__> release party?
[03:17] <thoonai> partey \o/
[03:17] <thoonai> where? when? how much chocolate?
[03:18] <Ben64> !party
[03:18] <derek__> i was thinking more along the lines of beer
[03:18] <sgo11> Ben64, thanks a lot for the explanation. one more question, if pulseaudio is no good, why does it exist by default? if having it and not having it will be the same. thanks.
[03:18] <wwwdotcom> I can play this file fine, but couldn't copy, not even in other folder on same drive.
[03:18] <Ben64> sgo11: it provides some features that some people like, but i find it to be more of a problem than its worth, so i remove it on my systems
[03:18] <MartynKeigher> hey...anyone good with apache alias redirects at all?
[03:19] <MartynKeigher> all im getting in the apache/httpd is a bot throwing crap at me!
[03:19] <Spaceghost> Ben64: I solve the problem but still I can't install Firefox.
[03:19] <Spaceghost> *solved
[03:19] <Spaceghost> .
[03:20] <M_P_D> hi all - newb here. what is the best resource for learning the command line?
[03:20] <sgo11> Ben64, ok. thanks. sorry, I have one more question. If I remove it, will my gnome-shell still have the sound icon in the top panel bar?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> MartynKeigher, if not here, perhaps in #ubuntu-server
[03:20] <Ben64> sgo11: that may go away
[03:20] <nearst> hi ppl
[03:20] <Spaceghost> Ben64: is possible that the package is broken?
[03:21] <sgo11> Ben64, ok. that's bad. I will simply keep it then. maybe it's better to find out why gdm failed to start it. :)
[03:21] <sgo11> Ben64, thanks a lot for your help. :)
[03:21] <Ben64> sgo11: do you _really_ need an icon? :D
[03:22] <M_P_D> can anybody tell me what a good resource for learning the command line is
[03:22] <sgo11> Ben64, kind of. I have some sound extension which show music control and status under sound icon. something like that. I used to it. I am not sure if this will break that extension or not.
[03:24] <wwwdotcom> Can i assume that file has been downloaded in a area of hard disk where there are bad sectors?
[03:24] <sgo11> it's actually gnome-shell extension, just related to sound. integrate music with the sound icon. something like that.
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | wwwdotcom
[03:25] <wwwdotcom> Thank you.
[03:27] <aneks> anyone in here that's good with the /etc/fstab file in ubuntu?
[03:27] <thoonai> M_P_D: ooooh. try configuring a webserver on an old computer with all extra services ;) then soon you you will be a master
[03:27] <usr13> aneks: What do you need to know?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> M_P_D, or type !danger into irc, read and go do the opposite to a *spare* computer.  proceed to fix after that.
[03:28] <aneks> usr13, I've got a disk that's on an NTFS partition and that's where I download my files to, I added the file to /etc/fstab and it automounts but when I try to download a torrent and save it to that disk, it keeps saying permission denied.
[03:28] <Spaceghost> Can someone help me in get an integrated installation of firefox?
[03:28] <usr13> aneks: Show us the /etc/fstab entry for it.
[03:29] <aneks> usr13, /dev/sdb1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, integrated?  with what?  install through software center ... though firefox does come with ubuntu by default...
[03:29] <lousygarua> aneks, usr13, may need to add a `umask=0777,fmask=0666` to the ntfs entry, or only `rw. Check the man page for ntfs options
[03:30] <usr13> aneks: Change to:  dev/sdb1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:30] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: the package is broken.
[03:30] <lousygarua> usr13, `users` let users write to it?
[03:30] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: it fails in every try of install it.
[03:30] <usr13> lousygarua: Yes
[03:30] <aneks> usr13, thanks I'll try that now
[03:30] <thoonai> someone here able and willing to help a n00b? ;)
[03:31] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, you have ubuntu installed and firefox is broken?  more details
[03:31] <Spaceghost> Ok, I will pastebin it.
[03:31] <usr13> thoonai: Yes
[03:31] <lousygarua> usr13, good to know, i think the `u/fmask`did the trick for vboxsf
[03:32] <thoonai> usr13: having a bridge which doesn't accept interfaces and a hostapd which doesnt accept cliens
[03:33] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: here there is the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600013/
[03:34] <usr13> thoonai: Do you have a question for us?
[03:34] <thoonai> may you look over my bridge configuration and tell me where it fails?
[03:35] <usr13> thoonai: Yes
[03:35] <Blue1> !libdvdcss2
[03:35] <aneks> usr13, that didn't work either, when I right click on the folder and click on permissions, it says that root owns the folder and I can't change it.
[03:35] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, wow.  facing such errors, I would sudo apt-get purge firefox, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove  then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:36] <usr13> aneks: mount -a
[03:36] <usr13> aneks: sudo  mount -a
[03:37] <aneks> usr13, just did that, though the /media/windows automounts on boot
[03:37] <usr13> aneks: Did you remount or reboot?
[03:37] <aneks> usr13, reboot
[03:37] <thoonai> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600021/
[03:37] <usr13> aneks: Change to:  dev/sdb1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g user,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:37] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: I just update before do that and the purge doesn't work.
[03:38] <Morph4me> Spaceghost  have you tried installing firefox  using Synaptic
[03:38] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, doesn't work?  how so?
[03:38] <aneks> usr13, that's exactly what I have in my /etc/fstab
[03:38] <usr13> aneks: Should work.  I dono
[03:39] <JLT> Hello
[03:39] <cfhowlett> JLT, greetings
[03:39] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600022/
[03:39] <JLT> Lets say I am logged in as use JLT, and I do "sudo usermod -a -G www-data JLT"
[03:39] <usr13> Someone else will have to pick up this conversation, my sleep time is at hand.  ttyl
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, apt-get purge firefox*    ... I think
[03:40] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: I found the way to resolve it.
[03:40] <Spaceghost> It is:
[03:40] <JLT> now if I do "groups" it'll display all the groups im in, except www-data but if I do "groups JLT" it'll display www-data as a group I'm in... this is strange behavior?
[03:40] <dr_willis> JLT:  i think you have to log out/back in for groups changes to take affect
[03:40] <Spaceghost> apt-get autoremove firefox-globalmenu
[03:40] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: ^
[03:40] <JLT> I'll try that dr_willis
[03:41] <Spaceghost> Because firefox is not installed but firefox-globalmenu yes.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, the hardest problems, the simplest solutions ...
[03:41] <Spaceghost> I tried all simplest solutions.
[03:41] <Spaceghost> Finally this one worked.
[03:41] <Spaceghost> But still I can't install firefox.
[03:42] <aneks> usr13, when I do ls -l of /media the folder windows looks like this drwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24576 Apr 19 03:09 windows
[03:42] <dr_willis> Spaceghost:  that post mentioned a conflct with a kubuntu-firefox installer package.. remove that pacakge perhaps?
[03:42] <Spaceghost> dr_willis: how?
[03:43] <dr_willis> Spaceghost:  same as youy remove any other package.. look at the errors it said..  conflicts with 'kubuntu-firefox-installer'
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost you're in ubuntu?  but you have a kubuntu package?
[03:43] <Spaceghost> I installed Kubuntu.
[03:43] <dr_willis> perhaps you should just RUN the kubuntu-firefox-installer tool?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> :)
[03:44] <dr_willis> ive never even notic3eed kubuntu had such a tool
[03:44] <dr_willis> but the postings you gave seem rather clear.. the firefox.desktop file is in both packages.. so its conflicting
[03:44] <dr_willis> I bet if you  just had the kubuntu-fireefox-installer installed the forefox icon would actually run some install script to install the real firefox
[03:45] <dr_willis> (i am guessing here)
[03:47] <Morph4me> Spaceghost: you have kubuntu- firefox-installer as 12.04  which shows in  synaptic package manager  ...just type "firefox" in the quick filter put a check mark in the box  right click on it and install it
[03:47] <Spaceghost> Morph4me: but I am in 12.10 now.
[03:47] <Morph4me> i know
[03:47] <Morph4me> install synaptic
[03:48] <Morph4me> do it that way when all else fails
[03:48] <Spaceghost> I am installing it.
[03:48] <Dr_Anon> hey guys, this would be my first time in these irc rooms, just installed 12.10 today, entering the world of self education
[03:48] <wolverine45> Hi,
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, greetings
[03:50] <Dr_Anon> appreciate it, was a little nervous about the attitude and community towards newcomers haha
[03:51] <wolverine45> Can some one help me with a problem I have . I have a lenovo thinkpad and Im trying to mount it to connect to  it to install ubuntu
[03:51] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, we only tar and feather rude newcomers ... :)
[03:51] <JimmyEggs> welcome, Dr_Anon
[03:51] <Spaceghost> Morph4me: the same error through synaptic
[03:51] <Morph4me> ouchie
[03:51] <cfhowlett> wolverine45, details.  lenovo usually installs ubuntu without problem
[03:52] <Spaceghost> The same error through KDE installer of Firefox as well:
[03:52] <wolverine45> Yep, it has a form of linux on it . But its not Ubuntu. The problem is that Im trying to set it up for fresh in stall from my laptop and the usb now are 3.0
[03:52] <Spaceghost> "/var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1"
[03:52] <houkouonchi> Anyone here have a lot of experience with fglrx drivers?
[03:52] <Dr_Anon> anyways, having a little bit of trouble, i installed and booted from a usb (using a acer aspire one netbook btw), and it started up fine and works fine but on startup the install screen still comes up and when i restart ive been losing all my apps and everything, so i figured it didnt install on the computer and maybe i was running live, but i tried to install and it says my computer already has xp and 12.10
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, losing your apps?  as in they're gone?  or just not displayed?
[03:54] <Dr_Anon> haha, well im far from rude, very friendly and eager to learn
[03:54] <bassgeisha> hrm
[03:54] <bassgeisha> i downloaded the ubuntu iso and burned it.. the laptop doesnt want to see it as bootable ? or something it keeps going to previous linux install
[03:54] <Dr_Anon> well when i restart they are nowhere to be found, for example i installed the psensor app and its gone, as well as my user profile info, username etc
[03:55] <bassgeisha> debian* install
[03:55] <huttan> Dr_Anon: are you sure you are booting into your installed ubuntu and not still using the live version on usb stick?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, post a screenshot
[03:55] <bassgeisha> should i erase all that off before install?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> !paste|Dr_Anon,
[03:55] <Morph4me> Spaceghost :/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop makes no sense
[03:55] <cfhowlett> bassgeisha, no need to erase.  just format the partition
[03:56] <Morph4me> you mean Firefox Web Browser ?
[03:56] <Spaceghost> Morph4me: where I put that?
[03:56] <Morph4me> .desktop
[03:57] <Dr_Anon> how would i go about booting with the installed ubuntu and not the usb? i know when i orginally installed and started up i moved the usb stick up in the boot order
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, hit the boot loader.  remove the usb and priortize the HD
[03:57] <dr_willis> Spaceghost:  both those packages are installing the same file. and thus conflict. remove the kubuntu-firefox-installer package
[03:57] <bassgeisha> format it when it boots from the cd?
[03:58] <Dr_Anon> im pretty sure it freezes up or maybe even cut off when i pulled the usb earlier.
[03:58] <huttan> Dr_Anon: If you went through the install procedure. Just remove the usb stick and down prio it in bios if needed. It should boot fine from ur harddrive
[03:58] <Morph4me> from an install default is /usr/share/applications/Firefox Web Browser ...why change or should i say rename it ?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> bassgeisha, correct.  just make sure you format only the partition you want to install ubuntu to ... important if you are dual booting
[03:58] <Dr_Anon> so take out the usb whenever i cut the computer off?
[03:58] <bassgeisha> nothing else on here afaik
[03:58] <bassgeisha> clean slate
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, you need not remove the usb if the bios is set to ignore it
[03:58] <cfhowlett> bassgeisha, then format and install away!
[03:59] <Dr_Anon> so i can choose in bios to ignore the usb and boot hd?
[03:59] <Spaceghost> dr_willis: can you say me how to do that?
[03:59] <Dr_Anon> and it will boot ubuntu over windows?
[03:59] <dr_willis> Spaceghost:  apt-get remove packagename    same as you do any other package
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, when you reboot, after power-on, self test, you hit the F12 key (on my Dell anyway.  maybe different for you).  that brings up the bios.  Go to boot, reorder things as you need.  then save and reboot
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, boot over windows ?  ummm, means what?  and you did NOT use the windows installer (wubi), did you?
[04:00] <Dr_Anon> is there a way for me to backup the apps and user info i have now before rebooting so that ill have it after?
[04:01] <Dr_Anon> no i dual booted though
[04:01] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, easiest way is to set a dedicated /home partition
[04:01] <Dr_Anon> and boot over windows as in higher priority
[04:01] <Dr_Anon> thats what i did on my dell laptop last year but this time im on a netbook and it kind of threw me off
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, good enough.
[04:03] <Dr_Anon> how exactly do i set up a /home partition for it and move it there?
[04:04] <Dr_Anon> i think that may help because earlier i had an issue with a no more disk space error message and had 100% usage after an hour of tinkering
[04:04] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, helps to do spring cleaning ... run sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean   to clear out your cache
[04:05] <Dr_Anon> ya think that was a problem even though i had literally JUST installed 12.10 within an our prior?
[04:05] <Dr_Anon> hour*
[04:06] <Dr_Anon> i appreciate your help btw man i hate to be asking so many questions at onve
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Anon, here is a wiki on separating home, might be easier to just reinstall since this one is a fresh install though. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[04:06] <Spaceghost> dr_willis: it worked, thanks a lot mate.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, ah.  no.  that issue builds up over time.  cause: downloaded packages get saved but NOT deleted by default
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !cookie|wilee-nilee,
[04:06] <Spaceghost> Thanks to you too cfhowlett.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, what was the final fix?
[04:07] <dr_willis> reading the error message and removeing the package it was complaining about... ;)
[04:07] <blob4000> does creating a new user essentially reset Unity to all defaults for them? or are there user-independant settings to reset as well?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, nice catch, doc!
[04:08] <cfhowlett> blob4000, new user gets defaults all the way
[04:08] <dr_willis> blob4000:  a new user running unity the first time.. gets the defaults
[04:08] <blob4000> dr_willis and cfhowlett thanks!
[04:08] <Dr_Anon> do u think ill be okay to just boot from the hard drive? i did the dual boot but it says xp AND ubuntu 12.10 is on this computer
[04:08] <dr_willis> if an existing user deletes all their unity setting files... they would get defaults
[04:08] <dr_willis> \once unity runs
[04:08] <blob4000> great to hear :P
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Dr_Anon, that's what a dual boot is.  fire it up ...
[04:09] <blob4000> when did ubuntu start requiring a longer password?
[04:09] <Dr_Anon> haha appreciate it man. im just over analyzing i swear im not ignorant. thanks again though, ill come give credit if it works!
[04:09] <Spaceghost> cfhowlett: remove the package of Kubuntu's installer of firefox.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> Spaceghost, simple indeed.
[04:14] <Spaceghost> Yes.
[04:25] <parijat> Hello fellas. How long is it for ubuntu raring  release ?
[04:25] <wwwdotcom> I am thinking of buying a laptop. It would be UEFI enabled and having pre installed windows 8. I have plans to dual boot ubuntu with windows 8 but i heard something like UEFI locks up boot sector and no other OS can be installed with it. What would you think should i go for it?
[04:25] <dr_willis> wwwdotcom: its not uefi that does that.. its the 'secure boot' feature  i belive.
[04:26] <wwwdotcom> i see
[04:26] <dr_willis> and that i belive cen be disavled on many laptops
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !uefi|wwwdotcom,
[04:28] <wwwdotcom> Gosh. Thank you. Good to know. It's possible.
[04:30] <dr_willis> last time i got a new laptop (non uefi) i just got a spare hd to put into it ;) i had linux on just that Hd. and kep the windows hd safe  so i could put it back in , when i sold/gave away the laptop
[04:31] <dr_willis> of course the last laptop i had... i discovered had 2 hd  slots... so i had a hd for each os... gotta love that
[04:32] <WillTheWasteland> My laptop has two hdd slots but only 1 connector , madness.
[04:32] <dr_willis> weird.. wonder if thers some sata spliter for it.
[04:33] <WillTheWasteland> I've taken it apart for cleaning and didn't see any sata ports, silly HP.
[04:34] <dr_willis> a secret compartment to hold your.. err.. usb flash drives? ;)
[04:35] <ujr> hello, can someone tell me why 32bit ubuntu10.04 uses 64 bit system calls like bind??
[04:36] <WillTheWasteland> Yes , usb flash drives haha.
[04:36] <wwwdotcom> heh
[04:37] <linusasus6> at what time 13.04 will release please
[04:37] <dr_willis> linusasus6:  there is no set time
[04:37] <wwwdotcom> I am trying to find out bad sectors on dev/sda7 in which i am currently on. Is this command ok, sudo badblocks /dev/sda7 ?
[04:37] <dr_willis> wwwdotcom:  i belive badblocks just reads/tests then prints out a list...
[04:37] <dr_willis> chekc its man page
[04:38] <wwwdotcom> right
[04:38] <wwwdotcom> dr_willis: I ran testdisk, but i am still unable to copy that file
[04:38] <ujr> i did strace on ubuntu 10.04 32bit system but it gave me system calls like bind which are for 64 bit, can someone tell me why it is so???
[04:38] <ujr> uname -a gives i686 system
[04:39] <dr_willis> wwwdotcom:  i dont know the core problem.. but  you may want to check into the fsarchicver program if you are trying to rescue a system
[04:40] <wwwdotcom> No. System is running just fine. Only problem is that the file that i have downloaded may be saved on location where there are just one or two bad sectors.
[04:41] <wwwdotcom> For this reason i am not able to copy that file.
[04:41] <dr_willis> that file may vbe totally currupted anyway
[04:41] <neyder_> hi
[04:41] <dr_willis> fsarchiver might be able to recovery it. might be total;y unrecoverable
[04:41] <Firas> hi guys... i'm wondering if want to create a new user who logs in with public/private keys, do i still need to set a password when i create the user or can i skip that entirely for security?
[04:43] <SocialEvil> hi guys. i am trying to install teamviewer on my ubuntu 11.10, but after installing it i cant start it. i write "teamviewer" in the terminal but after a couple of seconds it stopps and closes the window. when i try with #, i get http://pastebin.com/PJHj2ayF this error.. any ideas?
[04:43] <linusasus6> is TLP really correct the fan bug in Ubuntu? I got an dell inspiron 15R special edition 7520
[04:44] <dr_willis> SocialEvil:  try with '#' ? means what
[04:44] <SocialEvil> dr_willis with root privileges
[04:45] <dr_willis> !11.10
[04:46] <KI7MT> Hello all. Have an issue I cant figure out. I have a mixed Wireless/Wired Home Lan. From my UB-12.04 laptop, which is wireless, I can ping wired IP's on the lan, but not other wireless boxes, I need to ssh my workstation, but get Destination Host Unreachable? How do I add this route?
[04:46] <dr_willis> isent 11.10 near EOL? i dont pay much attention to the dates
[04:46] <pmp6nl> Hello, where is the default PostgreSQL database location in Ubuntu 12.04.? Thanks!
[04:46] <ujr> dr_wiillis: can you help me??
[04:46] <SocialEvil> dont know.. but i am using it :)~
[04:51] <dr_willis> ujr:  with?
[04:51] <dr_willis> !oneiric
[04:51] <dr_willis> Hmm.. one factoid tells the eol dates
[04:51] <ujr> i did strace on ubuntu 10.04 32bit system but it gave me system calls like bind which are for 64 bit, can someone tell me why it is so???
[04:52] <dr_willis> ujr:  no idea. i dont code.. dont know why you are worried about it.
[04:52] <ujr> uname -a gives i686 system
[04:52] <dr_willis> a 32bit system caxn use 64bit #'s with the right libs i imagine
[04:53] <ujr> do you know someone who can help
[04:53] <dr_willis> i dont even know what the bind system call does
[04:53] <ujr> it is for socket programming
[04:54] <kepler> ujr: email the dev?
[04:54] <dr_willis> why does it really matter?  or are you just curious?
[04:55] <kepler> it could be that the dev just wrote it for both archs, what were you stracing?
[04:55] <ujr> i was tracing gnome-dictionary
[04:56] <ujr> no, i checked the system call table...
[04:56] <linusasus6> is TLP really correct the fan bug in Ubuntu? I got an dell inspiron 15R special edition 7520
[04:57] <ujr> for 32 bit system, there is a system call called socketcall which contains bind, listen and others inside it, but for 64 bit they are defined seperately
[04:58] <ujr> dr_willis: i am studying os and working on system calls
[04:59] <wwwdotcom> So i ran badblocks and saw 5 bad sectors numbered. Is there any utility to which i input only these numbered sectors to repair them?
[04:59] <wwwdotcom> Something like 16057508 done, 7:21 elapsed etc. etc.
[04:59] <djnick> does anyone know who i can share music and karoake with?
[05:00] <|amicrawler|> i need help on install
[05:00] <Ben64> wwwdotcom: you pretty much cannot fix bad sectors
[05:00] <|amicrawler|> installing 12.10
[05:00] <sebsebseb>  
[05:00] <|amicrawler|> compact  will not install desktop
[05:00] <|amicrawler|> installer dissperrs
[05:01] <|amicrawler|> no way of knowing were  the install is in
[05:01] <|amicrawler|> just a spinning ciircle
[05:01] <|amicrawler|> doing a clean install
[05:02] <|amicrawler|> any help would benice
[05:03] <|amicrawler|> cog wheel for shut down  there is  no shut down or reboot in the menu
[05:03] <wwwdotcom> Ben64, it's a big video file. So i guess i don't mind losing 1 or 2 bad sectors. Can't it be done something like these bad sectors are filled with null and their new addresses are assigned to new location on hard disk. So that i can atleast copy and play that file.
[05:04] <wwwdotcom> Since i can still play that file smoothly.
[05:04] <wwwdotcom> I just couldn't copy it with standard ubuntu gdm copy functions.
[05:05] <dr_willis> tried fsarchiver yet? it might be able to just copy the data it can
[05:05] <dr_willis> !info fsarchiver
[05:05] <wwwdotcom> ok. Let me try
[05:05] <juboba> hey, I've been using DWM for a while. I found a patch to have a systemtray. How can I apply this patch? I know I need dwm's sources. I want to use apt so that everything is consistent. How should I proceed?
[05:05] <dr_willis> at least i recall it had that feature from its docs i read ages ago
[05:06] <dr_willis> juboba:  use the source and build a deb package would be the best way
[05:06] <dr_willis> !source
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> juboba: you can't do it with apt so it updates like that
[05:06] <juboba> dr_willis, apt-get source dwm?
[05:06] <dr_willis> hmm. you can use the build-deps option  to install allneeded dev packages to make compiling it easier
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> juboba: configs and patches have to compile with dwm everytime
[05:07] <dr_willis> the patch is most likely against a specifc version of the source// so you need to be sure to use the right source
[05:07] <jony> how can I disable "System error detected"? it gives me every morning
[05:07] <juboba> ohh
[05:07] <jony> it's related with cifs specified in fstab...
[05:08] <juboba> dr_willis, it is for my version
[05:09] <Linuturk> is there a release party channel?
[05:10] <juboba> dr_willis, should I patch dwm.c thepatch.diff?
[05:11] <juboba> dr_willis, should I: $ patch dwm.c thepatch.diff    ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> been years since ive last used patch       see if that works i guess. ;)
[05:12] <juboba> dr_willis, I did it. And compiled it
[05:13] <Birdo> Anyone know if Gnome Classic is still being updated or if I should be moving to a fork?
[05:13] <juboba> is it possible to install it using apt?
[05:13] <juboba> making the deb?
[05:14] <dr_willis> Birdo:  gnome 2 is dead... theres various falllback themes/modes  in  ubuntu and gnome-shell is comming out with its own official gnome2 theme
[05:21] <Birdo> dr_willis: thought so. I've heard of a few forks but I think I might check out cinnamon.
[05:22] <jony> how can I disable "System error detected"? it gives me every morning
[05:22] <jony> it's related with cifs specified in fstab...
[05:23] <dasein_> >tfw no ubuntu 13.04 out yet
[05:24] <Birdo> It's out April 26, I thught?
[05:24] <Birdo> thought*
[05:25] <wwwdotcom> dr_willis: I tried with sudo fsarchiver savedir /home/legend/Desktop/data.fsa /home/legend/Downloads/video
[05:25] <wwwdotcom> But no luck
[05:25] <wwwdotcom> See this output, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600157/
[05:28] <blob4000> <- extremely happy with 13.04 thank you Canonical and the community
[05:28] <doomlord> whats the logic behind mount or sshfs needing a directory that you map to to already exist.. i would have thought it would make more sense that the directory springs into existance after you say mount/sshfs and ceases to exist after you umount
[05:28] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477
[05:29] <kqwarkq> blob4000:  that's is out?
[05:29] <wwwdotcom> I am thinking that this program is doing the same thing  as any other ordinary file copier. With ordinary file copy, i was able to copy 114 MB too.
[05:29] <installgentoo> wheres muh oobun2
[05:30] <wwwdotcom> Should i use some switch ?
[05:33] <installgentoo> is 13.04 out yet
[05:33] <Ben64> no
[05:34] <wwwdotcom> I need a bomb proof file copier that is just so rigid that it doesn't care for any bad sector error and immediately jump to next sector.
[05:34] <dr_willis> doomlord:  some of the fuse tools have the option to make the dir..
[05:34] <learner> hey guys how can i use a dynamic tunnel on bash? i wanna use my proxy tunnel to download apt packages
[05:34] <dr_willis> wwwdotcom:  check the fsarchiver tool options.
[05:35] <Ben64> wwwdotcom: you should also look into getting a new hard drive if you're having bad sectors
[05:36] <doomlord> any random interesting things new in 13.04?
[05:36] <installgentoo> not unity thats for sure
[05:36] <wwwdotcom> Ben64, I already have. But i am stuck at just this file. Once it is copied, i will thrash it way.
[05:37] <wwwdotcom> dr_willis: ok
[05:37] <doomlord> i saw the ability to use scrollwheel on the launcher icons to switch windows... i liked the look of that... i always missed scrollwheel on the desktop pager ( i use that all the time in classic gnome) - it would be nice if the unity switcher icon did that
[05:37] <dr_willis> unity has a great many new tweaks/polished features in 13.04
[05:37] <doomlord> i like unity overall because of globalmenu
[05:38] <doomlord> i hate the classic windows style menu more than any minor irritation unity might have :)
[05:39] <ripthejacker> hi everyone
[05:39] <ripthejacker> my usb pen drive is not detected
[05:39] <ripthejacker> it shows up in lsusb and fdisk
[05:40] <ripthejacker> but i can't even format it using gparted or disk utility
[05:40] <Chatman> Hello! Why the new release 13.04 has not arrived, even it's 25th?
[05:40] <installgentoo> not even gparted? jeez
[05:40] <Ben64> Chatman: its not the 25th everywhere
[05:40] <dr_willis> Chatman:  it will be out when its out..
[05:41] <Chatman> oh :P
[05:41] <Chatman> how sad...
[05:41] <ripthejacker> installgentoo: yes it detects the drive but it cannot format it succesfully
[05:41] <installgentoo> I don't think i'll be able to sleep tonight too excited
[05:41] <dr_willis> this same question will get asked very 10 min......
[05:41] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  try using dd to zero the drive. then repartition it
[05:41] <Chatman> :D so better make  a post on the internet about it
[05:41] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: zero the drive?
[05:42] <dr_willis>  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/THEUSBTHING
[05:42] <dr_willis> then repartition it/
[05:42] <dr_willis> if dd cant zero it out.. then the usb is most likely bad
[05:42] <ripthejacker> oh ok i'll try
[05:43] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: so do I specify /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 ?
[05:43] <Chatman> hmmm... this kinda sucks because it's already morning here in finland...
[05:43] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  the Drive would be 'sdb'  a partion on the drive would be sdb1
[05:43] <Ben64> Chatman: you can download the beta... its not going to be much different
[05:44] <purplerain> installgentoo, #ubuntu-release-party
[05:44] <Chatman> Ben64: well, yes, but I want to get straight to the real thing ;)
[05:45] <Chatman> I'll thing about it
[05:45] <Chatman> think*
[05:45] <installgentoo> danx
[05:45] <pokkos> how can i change my default program for urls?
[05:46] <pokkos> in konsole
[05:46] <kqwarkq> sorry i dont know :|
[05:46] <jabagawee> just making sure, 13.04 is shipping tomorrow?
[05:47] <pokkos> back to gnome-terminal :)
[05:47] <Ponch0> hi, how do I ubuntu?
[05:47] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: how long should it take to dd to zero , it's been 5 mins and it's not returning
[05:47] <Birdo> So... I'm not sure what I did, but I've been using Gnome Classic for awhile. I switch to Unity and my screen is blank except for the wallpaper. No panels anywhere. Right now I'm in Unity 2D and that's working fine.
[05:48] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  depends on the size of the usb
[05:49] <kqwarkq> Birdo: maybe "restoring" your unity perfil?
[05:49] <Chatman> jabagawee: "It's not 25th everywhere" was the answer I got :D
[05:49] <kqwarkq> lol
[05:49] <dr_willis> every time someone asks... it gets delayed another 15 min...
[05:50] <jabagawee> heh, cute
[05:50] <Birdo> kqwarkq: is it unity --reset ?
[05:50] <Korbit> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I'm getting no sound. I had working sound two days ago and the only thing I've installed lately in java and updates. How do I figure out what is wrong?
[05:50] <Chatman> Just get used to it as long it's not possible to load the history of this chat :P
[05:50] <kqwarkq> like that
[05:50] <dr_willis> !log
[05:50] <kqwarkq> unity personalizations
[05:51] <Chatman> oh! it's possible :D
[05:51] <Ponch0> omg this is logged i must exist
[05:51] <Chatman> *whoops*
[05:51] <Chatman> :D
[05:51] <Chatman> !log
[05:52] <longcat_> !attack
[05:52] <pskeshu> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.03, and I'm unable to connect to my campus wifi
[05:52] <kqwarkq> Birdo: means that you will del unity configs for your user profile.
[05:52] <pskeshu> 13.04*
[05:52] <kqwarkq> or maybe change
[05:53] <pskeshu> with PEAP and MSCHAP
[05:53] <Ponch0> pskeshu try #ubuntu+1
[05:53] <Chatman> that log website is a bit complicated to me :P or I'm just simple
[05:54] <Ponch0> pskeshu: maybe the school doesn't want you on their wifi cuz you torrent too much
[05:54] <Ponch0> usher called
[05:54] <Korbit> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I'm getting no sound. I had working sound two days ago and the only thing I've installed lately in java and updates. How do I figure out what is wrong?
[05:54] <pskeshu> kqwarkq - the same problem persists with 12.10
[05:54] <Birdo> Could using tweak tool and a GTK 3 theme in Unity possibly prevent Unity from loading (works in Unity 2d)? Lol..
[05:55] <pskeshu> Ponch0 - the same problem persists with 12.10
[05:55] <Birdo> Or displaying, i should say*
[05:55] <kqwarkq> Birdo: Yes
[05:55] <Ponch0> what's your wifi device
[05:55] <dr_willis> Birdo:  unity3d uses compiz and needs proper 3d drivers... thats more likely the issue
[05:56] <installgentoo> will xubuntu and lubuntu be released at the same time? unity hates my 2005 laptop
[05:56] <Birdo> dr_willis, kqwarkq: Makes sense. Thanks guys.
[05:56] <Ponch0> pskeshu: also check if wlan0 is on
[05:56] <Ponch0> if your drivers are installed correctly
[05:56] <pskeshu> Realtek RTL8188CE
[05:56] <pskeshu> It's on, and I can see many connections available
[05:57] <Birdo> dr_willis: I didn't even realize it, but I'm booting Ubuntu 12.04 from an external hard drive. And I'm not a different computer. The 3d drivers is probably the issue.
[05:57] <pskeshu> when I connect it tries connecting and gets timedout
[05:57] <pskeshu> and asks for password again
[05:57] <ikla> what tools can I use to monitor disk/block device performance?
[05:57] <Birdo> dr_willis: I think I'll stick with Ubuntu 2d for now while on this laptop which is temporary. Thanks.
[05:58] <kqwarkq> Birdo: Check your driver
[05:58] <pskeshu> Ponch0 - refer http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600207/
[05:59] <pskeshu> how do I check the driver?
[05:59] <pskeshu> I have no trouble connecting to my friend's wifi hotspot
[05:59] <thePHPdev> Hello, I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.04 Beta, I just upgraded to see how it is. I thought it would be all right considering they're so close to releasing it. HOwever, when I log on, nothing works apart from the mouse, but then, the mouse is very choppy and laggy. Anyone know what's going on?
[05:59] <Ponch0> oh ok so the only wifi u can't connect to is your school?
[05:59] <pskeshu> It's only with my campus network that I've this problem. I googled and found that many have the same problem
[06:00] <pskeshu> Yes. But I was able to connect to it with Kali OS
[06:01] <Birdo> Night all, thanks for the help.
[06:01] <Ponch0> ah I gotcha.
[06:01] <Ponch0> interesting because I failed out school so I haven't come up across the problem
[06:02] <pskeshu> Haha
[06:02] <pskeshu> so you have any idea what's wrong?
[06:02] <Ponch0> I don't, I've had my own share of wifi issues but that definately wasn't one of them.
[06:02] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: is there any way to make the dd zero verbose. It's still going on and i'm not sure if it's frozen.
[06:02] <dr_willis> pskeshu:  check what module/drivers kaliOs is using perhaps?  could be some odd driver quirk
[06:03] <pskeshu> It's important I get my internet soon. I've my biochem exam soon
[06:03] <Ponch0> dr_willis: seems to have a great idea
[06:03] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  how big is the usb flash?   you coul djust ctrl-c it and    then try to partion the flash now.. it may not need to finish
[06:03] <pskeshu> I removed kaliOS to install Ubuntu
[06:03] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: 32GB
[06:03] <thePHPdev> Anyone?
[06:04] <thePHPdev> "Hello, I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.04 Beta, I just upgraded to see how it is. I thought it would be all right considering they're so close to releasing it. HOwever, when I log on, nothing works apart from the mouse, but then, the mouse is very choppy and laggy. Anyone know what's going on?"
[06:04] <Ponch0> pskeshu: he's saying to use whatever drivers theyre using for your computer.
[06:05] <Ponch0> so continue using ubuntu just use the same drivers for your wifi as kali
[06:05] <dr_willis> thePHPdev:  check your video drivers would be a start.   Unity/compiz can be picky about them
[06:05] <thePHPdev> OK, How would I do that?
[06:06] <pskeshu> Ponch0 How do I do that? I'm new to linux
[06:06] <Ponch0> what version of kaliOS did you use?
[06:07] <pskeshu> Ponch0: Kali 1.0
[06:07] <pskeshu> the latest one
[06:07] <longcat_> !pwn
[06:08] <thePHPdev> dr_willis: How would I do that?
[06:08] <dr_willis> thePHPdev:  i dont know what video drivers/chipset you got.. whaever ones your chipset uses.. check they are installed, and are working
[06:09] <wwwdotcom> Hey dr_willis, i tried ddrescue utility and it worked perfectly fine!!
[06:09] <Guest85629> what is the easy way to switch between file manager windows in unity. if you use the launcher you have to click twice. Is there a keyboar shortcut to switch file manager windows if you have two opened?
[06:09] <wwwdotcom> rescued:   682902 kB,  errsize:    4096 B,  current rate:        0 B/s
[06:09] <wwwdotcom> Ony 2KB was corrupted imo
[06:09] <Looking4hire> Hello is there a place where I can hire for a specific build
[06:09] <dr_willis> Guest85629:  in the next release theres a quicklist on the panel icons. ;)
[06:10] <Ponch0> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=2&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=272&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[06:11] <Guest85629> dr_willis I don't think my box can handle the next release. Judging by your answer, there is no keyboard shortcut. Do you think I could make a keyboard shortcut?
[06:11] <Ponch0> fine the 88CE driver under linux, look for some instructions and have fun
[06:12] <pskeshu> So, I just have to download it and install it?
[06:12] <Ponch0> nah, that stuff is a pain, google some detailed instructions
[06:12] <Ponch0>  ./configure
[06:12] <Ponch0> make
[06:12] <Ponch0> make install all that good stuff
[06:12] <dr_willis> Guest85629:  never really noticed. i just alt-tab till i get the window i want
[06:12] <pskeshu> okay. Thank you so much for your help :)
[06:12] <shape> dr_willis: check pm!: )
[06:13] <Ponch0> hey np, pskeshu ull figure it out ur a smart(guy) biochem last I checked is some tough stuff
[06:13] <Guest85629> dr_willis ... that sounds like a good solution to me... Thanks
[06:14] <pskeshu> hehe. Biochem is a little tough, but it's very interesting.
[06:14] <Ponch0> as long as you find it interesting and enjoy it :)
[06:14] <installgentoo> when i was using windows xp there was a site to download more RAM, is it possible to download more RAM on linux?
[06:15] <pskeshu> thanks man :) I'll go try fix my wifi. Bye
[06:15] <shape> installgentoo: go back to /g/
[06:15] <Ponch0> good luck
[06:18] <Korbit> I'm running Lubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I'm getting no sound. I had working sound two days ago and the only thing I've installed lately is java and updates. How do I figure out what is wrong?
[06:20] <wwwdotcom> Thank you all and have a nice day.
[06:21] <bryan_> @Korbit try opening terminal and putting in alsamixer and see if anything is muted
[06:22] <Korbit> bryan_: The only thing that shows up is PCM and it isn't muted.
[06:23] <bryan_> is there any other devices to choose there. Press f6
[06:23] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: after formatting it shows filesystem unknow
[06:24] <Ponch0> Korbit: did you try to unmute your sound>?
[06:24] <Korbit> bryan_: The only things that show up there are "- Default" and "0 HDA Intel".
[06:24] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  you partion, then format..    gparted should let you do this
[06:25] <bryan_> Korbit: have you checked sound under your system settings yet
[06:26] <installgentoo> I had the same problem on lubuntu 12.04 forgot how i fixed it had to dl alsa mixer or something
[06:26] <Korbit> bryan_: Nothing for sound shows up under either the System Tools or Preferences menus.
[06:28] <bryan_> here is a page that might help, idk that much about troubleshooting audio cards but take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[06:28] <shankstaBytes> yo yo
[06:28] <shankstaBytes> im back
[06:29] <betrayd> installgentoo: sam ehre, bec. alsamixer lets you CHOOSE the right audio card before proceeding
[06:29] <betrayd> with sound
[06:30] <pittmanism> anyone know what time 13.04 is coming out? it's already the 25th in some parts of the world :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> pittmanism:  its been delayed for 3 years...
[06:30] <dr_willis> ;P
[06:31] <pittmanism> i installed the most recent beta and it broke my display, lol
[06:31] <pittmanism> i hope the three new unity effects are worth it >:|
[06:31] <installgentoo> I couldnt even install the final beta because the installer broke
[06:31] <apm1> how much time is left ?
[06:31] <pittmanism> i guess i should more blame amd than ubuntu
[06:32] <pittmanism> i have to drop to recovery mode and reinstall the fglrx drivers every time x is touched
[06:32] <pittmanism> xord*
[06:32] <pittmanism> org
[06:32] <betrayd> that is to be expected
[06:33] <Korbit> AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Now my MHL adapter on my cell phone isn't working! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRON WITH LINUX THIS WEEK?!?  MY DESKTOP WON'T LET ME LOG IN, MY LAPTOP HAS NO SOUND, MY RASPBERRY PI WON'T MOUNT ANY USB DRIVES, AND MY PHONE WON'T OUTPUT TO MY MONITOR ANYMORE. FUCK THIS SHIT.
[06:34] <dr_willis> sounds like Classic PEBKAC to me...
[06:34] <installgentoo> ahaha
[06:35] <Ben64> yeah, if everything around you is failing... maybe it's you
[06:36] <Kartagis> dr_willis: if I'm connecting a linux laptop to a tv and the display is too small, do I need to play with the dpi?
[06:37] <dr_willis> connecting how? hdmi? dvi?
[06:37] <Kartagis> vga
[06:37] <murad> 13.04 is still not out
[06:38] <murad> ????
[06:38] <murad> 13.04 is still not out??????????????
[06:38] <apm1> murad, time zones man
[06:38] <Tm_T> murad: no, and please stop asking
[06:38] <apm1> its still not 25th in some places
[06:38] <dr_willis> murad:  every time someone asks.. it gets delayed.... ;p
[06:38] <apm1> lol
[06:38] <asgeir_> lol
[06:39] <Kartagis> also, a kitten dies
[06:39] <vanishing> maybe we should ask 13.10...;P
[06:39] <dr_willis> when it gets released.. the  channel topic will say so.
[06:39] <apm1> but there must be a UTC time at which is set for the release ?
[06:39] <murad> :В
[06:39] <murad> :D
[06:39] <dr_willis> apm1:  not really. it depends on when they get all the servers synced and ready
[06:39] <apm1> dr_willis, oh
[06:40] <dr_willis> i see this every 6 mo.. people asking is it out.. every 5 min.. then someone claims its out.... and its not  on all the servers.. and so on.. then someone posts a torrent that dosent work...
[06:40] <Kartagis> dr_willis: vga
[06:41] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  its possible the monitor has a scaleing mode/setting that might fill up the whole screen.. ive not used vga in years with a tv
[06:41] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: yes i created a partition ext2 but it's not showing up.
[06:42] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: shall i post lsusb or dmesg or fdisk?
[06:42] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  check with 'sudo blkid' and 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/thedevicename'
[06:42] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  or just try to mount it by hand. ;)
[06:42] <ripthejacker> dr_willis: it's shown in fdisk but not in blkid
[06:43] <dr_willis> unplug/plug it back in perhaps.. or just try to mount it by hand
[06:43] <shankstaBytes> how can i improve temp on my laptop
[06:44] <shankstaBytes> can i turn stuff down some how?
[06:46] <installgentoo> flash makes my cpu catch on fire
[06:46] <vanishing> installgentoo: i've notice the same
[06:46] <vanishing> installgentoo: quite recently too
[06:47] <F41L> Herrow all you fellow clickityclackers, I've got a weird thing-a-ma-what going on with my laptop. I attempt to connect to a wifi network (fully expecting to get a password entry prompt), and all I get is "Activation of network connection failed" instead.
[06:49] <installgentoo> shank witch distro you on
[06:49] <shankstaBytes> ubuntu
[06:49] <shape> This question has probably been asked 10000 times already but isn't Ubuntu 13.04 supposed to be released today?
[06:49] <dr_willis> when its out - the topic will say so
[06:50] <installgentoo> which version shank
[06:50] <gosi> morning everybody
[06:50] <vanishing> shape: im actually more concern of how are we going to upgrade to 13.10. or the new method of
[06:50] <gosi> hoehoe, thank you shape. i was about to ask the same question ;-)
[06:51] <vanishing> "+1"
[06:51] <shape> vanishing: I'm sure it will be something seamless hopefully
[06:51] <vanishing> shape: i hope so..
[06:53] <alkamid> Hi, how do I set default locale for wine applications? (I want it to be different than system locale)
[06:54] <alkamid> right now I am typing in console: "LC_ALL=pl_PL.utf8 wine myapp.exe"
[06:54] <shankstaBytes> 12.04
[06:54] <shankstaBytes> installgentoo: 12.04
[06:54] <shape> installgentoo: Install LFS plz
[06:55] <bazhang> !behelpful | shape
[06:55] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[06:55] <sonofzeus> Anyone here know opentracker?
[06:56] <sonofzeus> I need help with it ASAP.
[06:56] <bazhang> sonofzeus, what version of ubuntu, where is it installed from
[06:56] <bazhang> !find opentracker
[06:57] <bazhang> sonofzeus, that does not appear to be in the ubuntu software repos, where did you install it from
[06:57] <sonofzeus> Hey Bazhang heres the link: http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/opentracker/
[06:57] <sonofzeus> Its a well know software in the P2P scene
[06:58] <bazhang> sonofzeus, it's 3rd party software then
[06:58] <sonofzeus> Yep .
[06:58] <bazhang> sonofzeus, so contact the makers in their forums
[06:58] <mosleyk> #ebooks
[06:58] <ejv> we're already at 13.04, my how time flies...
[06:58] <bazhang> !alis | sonofzeus have a search
[06:59] <sonofzeus> Hey all ,I've a torrent related issue anyone help me please.
[06:59] <bazhang> sonofzeus, what is the issue
[06:59] <ejv> why don't you ask the *real* question sonofzeus
[07:00] <sonofzeus> Okay I've lubuntu installed and I did everything mentioned over there but I dunno how to activate it and use it?
[07:00] <Ben64> sonofzeus: is this still about opentracker?
[07:00] <bazhang> sonofzeus, mentioned over where, what are you trying to do, what is "it"
[07:00] <sonofzeus> Yes
[07:00] <Ben64> sonofzeus: read what you were told.... <bazhang> sonofzeus, so contact the makers in their forums
[07:00] <ejv> we really should rename this channel to #mindreaders
[07:01] <sonofzeus> Hehe sorry
[07:01] <sonofzeus> Im on a mobile cant type good.
[07:01] <sonofzeus> Bye anyways
[07:01] <F41L> Herrow all you fellow clickityclackers, I've got a weird thing-a-ma-what going on with my laptop. I attempt to connect to a wifi network (fully expecting to get a password entry prompt), and all I get is "Activation of network connection failed" instead.
[07:01] <nukke> have you had trouble connecting to this network before
[07:03] <F41L> I haven't connected to -any- network before. I've also tried several.
[07:03] <F41L> I also cannot open the network settings manager.
[07:04] <F41L> ( aka, fresh install, fully apt-get update/upgrade'd
[07:06] <ejv> your nick is so appropriate teehee ^_^
[07:06] <F41L> riiiight?
[07:06] <nukke> F41L: make sure your have the correct drivers installed
[07:06] <shivani> Hi I am getting this error , seems to me like a socket problem , any fix ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600313/
[07:07] <F41L> Quite frankly, I've -rarely- ever had to muddle with drivers for linux. Typically they just... work.
[07:07] <nukke> oh, i agree, especially on ubuntu it should be already preconfigured
[07:07] <F41L> Only time I did, was this Validy Sensor 5011 I had to compile support for in fprintd
[07:08] <F41L> Sooo, don't mind me if I say "what do?" when you say "check yer drivarz!"
[07:09] <shivani> getting this error , seems to me like a socket problem , any fix ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600313/
[07:09] <shivani> ^need it ASAP
[07:09] <bazhang> F41L, whats the chipset, is this an internal card or a usb dongle, lspci for the former, lsusb for the latter all to pastebin please
[07:09] <bazhang> !paste | F41L
[07:10] <bazhang> shivani, need what asap. describe the issue more fully
[07:10] <chunkyhead> after installing the kde interface, when i logged in thru unity i noticed the default icons of the applications had changed and some applications were missing, any idea how to get them back?
[07:10] <bassgeisha> unbelievable
[07:10] <F41L> wellll, I do know that is -says- that it is a ralink rt5390 it/ir pcie
[07:10] <bassgeisha> idk if my laptop just doesnt want to read ubuntu dvds
[07:10] <bassgeisha> doesnt fit on a cd for me
[07:10] <bassgeisha> tried the usb thing ignores it
[07:11] <bazhang> bassgeisha, nor does it for anyone
[07:11] <shivani> bazhang: I am running jhbuild, which needs to fetch a url , but it is giving me an error which I have pasted here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600313/
[07:11] <shivani> I need a fix for this error
[07:11] <shivani> Is it a socket problem ?
[07:12] <bazhang> shivani, what exactly is jhbuild, what version of ubuntu, what did you expect it to do, what issue is there with a socket
[07:12] <bassgeisha> ive got dvds and a usb flash drive, debian is installed. can i force run an install from debian
[07:12] <eRIC__> shivani try to telnet git.gnome.org 80 first
[07:12] <bazhang> bassgeisha, how are you writing it to usb stick
[07:12] <bassgeisha> iso to usb on winblows machine
[07:12] <bassgeisha> extracted it
[07:13] <bazhang> bassgeisha, you dont extract it
[07:13] <shivani> eRIC__ : telnet: could not resolve git.gnome.org:80/telnet: System error
[07:13] <shivani> So need a fix for this here
[07:13] <bazhang> bassgeisha, and why not do it on the debian machine
[07:13] <Amnuriak> trying to get my monitors detected correctly again. drivers seem to be the issue here (tried opensource and the propert. drivers). my second monitor is never detected and my first one is always "laptop". graphics is a FirePro 2770 (ATI)
[07:13] <F41L> bassgeisha, did you use universal usb installer? ( http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ )
[07:13] <bassgeisha> no network acess
[07:14] <bassgeisha> hrm no didnt know about that one
[07:14] <F41L> It's really sweet.
[07:14] <bazhang> bassgeisha, you dont need network access to write a iso to usb stick
[07:14] <bassgeisha> but it doesnt seem to respond to dvd boot images?
[07:14] <F41L> I've never had luck DD-ing an ISO straight to a USB flash
[07:14] <F41L> try out the universal usb installer, it's the tits for doing linux-from-flash-drive
[07:14] <bassgeisha> the original debain install was cdrom im wondering if my dvd reader is kaput.
[07:15] <nukke> some motherboards allow only booting from CDs, and not DVDs. it _could_ be that
[07:15] <F41L> bazhang, did you get my earlier? It's a Ralink RT5390 PCIe (HP DV6-somethingorother)
[07:16] <F41L> AMD A6 quad laptop thingy.
[07:16] <bassgeisha> yea and if ubuntu doesnt fit im up a creek
[07:16] <nukke> ubuntu's new release is 800mb, iirc, so you might be bust
[07:16] <bassgeisha> yeah errrghh1!!
[07:16] <F41L> Which makes me a sad panda.
[07:16] <bassgeisha> not sure why it doesnt have network access
[07:17] <bassgeisha> its got wifi and even a um
[07:17] <bassgeisha> wifi card
[07:17] <nukke> have you tried ethernet?
[07:17] <Amnuriak> can anyone help me with my monitor problem ? I tried everything I found when searching the error messages (from the propert. drivers) but nothing worked so far
[07:17] <bassgeisha> well its linked ethernet supposedly from another pc
[07:17] <bassgeisha> its upstairs, far from the router
[07:18] <bassgeisha> i can get it downstairs to the router if it req only initial setup
[07:19] <bassgeisha> its 3am
[07:19] <bassgeisha> ive been working on this for hours.
[07:19]  * bassgeisha is too tired to nerdrage
[07:20] <ripthejacker> unable to mount usb device and it's also not showing up in blkid
[07:20] <ripthejacker> please help
[07:20] <nukke> try the device on another machine
[07:20] <nukke> make sure the device is not damaged
[07:21] <ripthejacker> nukke: it's showing up in fdisk so it's not damaged
[07:21] <ripthejacker> i think
[07:22] <ripthejacker> please help
[07:22] <bassgeisha> wondering at this point if i should just take out the harddrive lol
[07:22] <reggins> whats going wrong
[07:22] <Amnuriak>  trying to get my monitors detected correctly again. drivers seem to be the issue here (tried opensource and the propert. drivers). my second monitorI tried everything I found when searching the error messages (from the propert. drivers) but nothing worked so far is never detected and my first one is always "laptop". graphics is a FirePro 2770 (ATI).
[07:23] <Amnuriak> hmpf, message got mixed..
[07:24] <Amnuriak> trying to get my monitors detected correctly again. drivers seem to be the issue here (tried opensource and the propert. drivers). my second monitor is never detected and my first one is always "laptop". graphics is a FirePro 2770 (ATI). I tried everything I found when searching the error messages (from the propert. drivers) but nothing worked so far
[07:24] <alecb> I have a local premake4 executable on my path. which finds it correctly. ll tells me its mode is -rwxr-xr-x. I can cat it. but when I do ./premake4, I get "zsh: no such file or directory: ./premake4"
[07:25] <reggins> check capitalization/how the file is named
[07:25] <MonkeyDust> tip: lsb_release -a no onger shows '13.04 developer branch', so I guess it's here
[07:25] <MonkeyDust> longer*
[07:25] <alecb> reggins: that's not the issue -- I'm just tab-completeting the name of the binary (it's the only file in the folder, I'm just doing ./<TAB>)
[07:27] <yeehi> At what time today will Raring be released?
[07:27] <F41L> Anyone else care to try -n- take a crack at my weird issue with my network shennanigans?
[07:30] <Guest84273> hey i am getting lua problem can any one tell me how to fix it?
[07:30] <Guest84273> any one ?
[07:30] <bazhang> Guest84273, try #lua
[07:31] <Guest84273> ok
[07:31] <Guest84273> thank u
[07:31] <Pitel_IPEX> is there a channel for 13.04 release "party"?
[07:31] <bazhang> !party | Pitel_IPEX
[07:31] <Pitel_IPEX> bazhang: thanks
[07:34] <jensun> when will 13,04 release?
[07:34] <F41L> It gets delayed by 10 days every time someone asks that question.
[07:35] <F41L> So basically. 2056 sometime.
[07:35] <jensun> lol
[07:35] <jensun> I just want to know the time
[07:35] <MonkeyDust> jensun  it looks like it's here, my lsb_release no longer shows 'developer branch'
[07:35] <F41L> 13 oclock.
[07:36] <jensun> 13 oclock what time?
[07:36] <jensun> GMT?
[07:36] <F41L> gmt -25
[07:36] <jensun> It's not listed in the official download
[07:36] <jensun> s
[07:36] <F41L> Who knows good sir, "when it's released"
[07:37] <jensun> Alright, thanks!
[07:37] <shape> I can't Alt-Tab or minimuzet a game with the super key in Ubuntu, any ideas?
[07:40] <rali> fuck you
[07:40] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way to download something from itunes in ubuntu? It's free.
[07:41] <Seven_Six_Two> it won't even stream on the itunes.apple.com site
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, Supposedly the windows version runs on playonlinux
[07:43] <Seven_Six_Two> oh? Maybe I'll give it a shot
[07:44] <contrapunctus> Hey folks...I have a Ubuntu 12.04 system, I need to update the graphics card (Intel HD graphics) drivers, which packages do I need to update?
[07:45] <teodor98> hey all
[07:46] <shape> Nevermind Alt+F9 works
[07:46] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys
[07:46] <oooaaaoooo> anyone have any experience with rdp over https client in linux?
[07:46] <chunkyhead> vfvf
[07:47] <chunkyhead> can anyone see this
[07:47] <oooaaaoooo> chunkyhead: yes
[07:47] <lens|work> hi guys - i have multiple virtual hosts in my ubuntu box. is it possible to access them in lan using different ip address for each virtual host, so that i don't have to mess around with my hosts file ?
[07:47] <chunkyhead> thanks oooaaaoooo
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> lens|work  is that ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[07:48] <teodor98> i how can send a private message ?
[07:48] <lens|work> MonkeyDust okay thanks
[07:49] <spydon> What's the release party channel again?
[07:49] <contrapunctus> Hey folks...I have a Ubuntu 12.04 system, I need to update the graphics card drivers (Intel HD graphics), which packages do I need to update?
[07:49] <linuxuz3r> #ubuntu-release
[07:49] <hyperreal> Question:  Is Ubuntu 13.04 going to use systemd?
[07:50] <contrapunctus> !systemd
[07:50] <contrapunctus> wat.
[07:50] <hyperreal> I'm asking because I noticed on DistroWatch systemd was listed as a package for 13.04
[07:51] <shafox> hey guys , i am running on 10.04 lte version , last night i hit a problem with the display was gone, from starting to end. i am right now in the box, connecting the monitor with an external monitor device. how to get back the display in my laptop which includes the hp dv2000 series laptop
[07:51] <OerHeks> !upstart
[07:51] <hyperreal> usually if the package isn't installed by default, they won't bother to list the version number
[07:51] <Termana> spydon: the release party channel is suppose to be #ubuntu-release-party
[07:51] <spydon> Thanks
[07:52] <vnc786> want to configure Simple DNS server for local lan can some one provide some links
[07:52] <chunkyhead> does anyone here knows how to bypass sonicwall??
[07:52] <vnc786> my setup : ubuntu 12.04 + DSL modem + no static ip
[07:53] <hyperreal> so is that a yes or a no on systemd?
[07:53] <hyperreal> though i can't imagine theyd want to replace upstart already
[07:54] <contrapunctus> hyperreal: What on earth is all this brouhaha over systemd/upstart? O.o
[07:54] <shafox> can someone help me get past that problem with the display ?? i am really worried..
[07:54] <hyperreal> contrapunctus, read what i typed above
[07:55] <hyperreal> contrapunctus i asked if systemd is going to be default on 13.04
[07:55] <contrapunctus> hyperreal: I read that; you need to read my question - how does it affect users? O.o
[07:56] <hyperreal> contrapunctus: Am I asking in the wrong channel?
[07:57] <contrapunctus> hyperreal : Nope.
[07:57] <hyperreal> Well what the hell
[07:57] <contrapunctus> Hey folks...I have a Ubuntu 12.04 system, I need to upgrade the graphics card drivers (Intel HD graphics), which packages do I need to upgrade?
[07:57] <hyperreal> all I want to know is if it's going to be default on 13.04
[07:57] <bazhang> hyperreal, no
[07:57] <hyperreal> bazhang - thanks
[07:57] <bazhang> np
[07:58] <hyperreal> The reason i asked is because on distrowatch they listed the version number for systemd under 13.04, which gave me the impression it was going to be default
[07:58] <hyperreal> but anywho
[07:59] <OerHeks> hyperreal, i read something about that, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMyMDE
[07:59] <MrHatter> What is an easy way to find out which files are being modified when you change switches in gnome ?
[08:00] <yoojinp> MrHatter: I would be interested to know too. I think there is a way to list every open file.
[08:00] <qin> MrHatter: do you know where more-less to look? find; lsof; inotify
[08:01] <shafox> i am seeing a black screen or a very low brightness screen upon start the laptop, i am having intel integrated graphis. i am on lucid 10.04
[08:02] <mattnie> yoojinp: are yo looking for "lsof"?
[08:02] <Amnuriak> folks, I'm really stuck on this.. no matter what I do, my monitors will not be detected correctly.. my driver seems to be behaving weird. In my Xorg.log I can see "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:0) found"
[08:02] <yoojinp> I'm googling about it now. :D
[08:02] <MrHatter> qin: i.e if I change turn the screensaver off in gnome, I want to know which file is being modified
[08:03] <MrHatter> qin: inotify looks interesting
[08:04] <qin> MrHatter: something in .local, me thinks, you can use "live" inotifywait, or find by modification date, of slof gnoem-screensaver... or run it with starce
[08:04] <chunkyhead> who ever msged me can you sent it again
[08:05] <pk___> so.. is final release on schedule?
[08:05] <Amnuriak> can anyone help me with this driver issue ?
[08:07] <MonkeyDust> Amnuriak  when someone knows the answer, s/he will help you - repeat the issue every 15 minutes or so, in one line
[08:09] <GinTonicool> hi,guys,how download youtube by using jdownloader, JD just get only 1M of the video,all elses are so
[08:10] <sliddjur> im running ubuntu 13.04 on virtualbox. it idles at 70% cpu. host os is win7. i have a winxp guest that use 3-5% idle cpu
[08:10] <GinTonicool> nobody help me ?
[08:11] <atplsx> 13.04 when release
[08:11] <guier> Hello I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 for quite a while having Gnome 2.30.2. I have migrated to 12.04 recently but I have a problem I can't find a way to add "Go > History" so I can browse my past folders quickly as I had with Nautilus 2.30.1. I am using the fail-safe GNOME option. Is there a way to get History back on with Nautilus?
[08:11] <bazhang> !helpme | GinTonicool
[08:11] <bazhang> atplsx, not known
[08:12] <atplsx> ok thanks
[08:12] <Amnuriak> Any response regarding my graphics driver issue ? Had to reboot
[08:13] <GinTonicool> so
[08:14] <joelsh> Hey. I'd really like to clone a usb disc that I have .. It's a bootable Windows 7 disc. I've tried with DD but I get error.. What to do?
[08:15] <Adam765> guys, wheres ubuntu 13.04, it should be out now
[08:15] <Adam765> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown - you even say it your selfs
[08:16] <fizzR> adam, it's not the end of 25th all around the world yet, so relax :)
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> 1:15 am in LA
[08:17] <Amnuriak> Can anyone read this at all ? o.O
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> Amnuriak  when someone knows the answer, s/he will help you - repeat the issue every 10 minutes or so, in one line
[08:17] <Adam765> I can't wait, i want it now, lol, it seem like a big deal this time, you have changes alot of things
[08:17] <Amnuriak> MonkeyDust: ok, thank you
[08:19] <shafox>  laptop screen brightness is at lowest. in the settings the brightness is set max 100%. but still i cant make anything out of it whatever is displaying.
[08:24] <smoke_> samba still good way to network between windwos and linux machine?
[08:24] <smoke_> or should i ssh?
[08:25] <Atlantic777> samba is still developed and becoming better, try it
[08:25] <smoke_> nm im just gonna ssh
[08:25] <mattnie> smoke_: it depends on your task ;) what do you want to do? data transfer?
[08:25] <smoke_> that was stupid question :)
[08:25] <smoke_> just some simple file transfer
[08:26] <Atlantic777> i use ssh (sftp) because I don't want to bother with setting up samba :P
[08:27] <mattnie> smoke_: samba is very easy to set up for simple tasks! And if once it is set up it is easier to transfare data between linux <-> windows! But this is only my opinion...
[08:27] <smoke_> yeah i used to use it a long long long time ago in slackware, but i think im just gonna ssh filetransfers
[08:28] <ANub> smoke_:no need to setup smb if transfer is from Ubuntu --->>> Windows
[08:29] <Atlantic777> ANub: how is it so?
[08:29] <Atlantic777> I don't know what do you mean but sound interesting.
[08:30] <ANub> Atlantic777: I've not setup any.........and i can access any window machine ]
[08:31] <Atlantic777> ANub: ok, but how? :) If you want to share it with us. :D
[08:31] <ANub> Places---Connect to Server----Give IP and select Share option
[08:34] <ANub> Places---Connect to Server----Give IP and select Share option
[08:34] <Atlantic777> uhm... i think that it goes over smb that way.
[08:34] <TheChistoso|2> what's the username/password for an ubuntu cloud image deployed to an openstack implementation?
[08:34] <TheChistoso|2> "ubuntu/passw0rd" isn't working
[08:34] <ANub> Atlantic777: Yeah .........but only Smbclient is triggered and you dont have to configure it
[08:36] <smoke_> hmmm
[08:36] <apm1> , is it out
[08:36] <smoke_> im using lubuntu
[08:36] <smoke_> i dont have a places icon, i think thats a unity thing
[08:36] <[S^K]> I have installed ubuntu server on an Amazon EC2 instance, when I try to create a file using "sudo cat > file.conf" I get permission denied. sudo is working for all other command though. How can I fix this?
[08:36] <apm1> did you guys get rid of the bot ?
[08:37] <TheChistoso|2> S^K: try sudo "cat > file.conf"
[08:37] <TheChistoso|2> or run "sudo su -" first
[08:37] <TheChistoso|2> oh and what are you cat'ing?
[08:38] <RedObsidian|AFK> Hi all, don't flame me for this but when will 13.04 be released? Thought it was meant to be today
[08:38] <ANub> smoke: its nautilus command........."nautilus-connect-server"
[08:38] <ANub> smoke: its nautilus command........."nautilus-connect-server"......try it
[08:39] <apm1> RedObsidian|AFK, its due today
[08:39] <k1l_> RedObsidian|AFK: just watch in #ubuntu-release-party
[08:39] <DJones> RedObsidian|AFK: No specific time, I would expect sometime in the next 12 hours though
[08:39] <hydrox24> It should be released in the next few hours, lots of stuff on the website already acts like it's out of beta.
[08:39] <nikolam> anyone using linux/ubuntu version of team viewer?
[08:39] <RedObsidian|AFK> ah! cheers for the info ;)
[08:40] <ANub> nikolam:....I use it
[08:40] <nikolam> I have problems with clipboard on windows target machines, if something is In clipboard preor connection on them
[08:41] <nikolam> copy/paste does not work on them unless it was NOT copies something in clipboard otver TemViewer from linux, controlling machine
[08:41] <nikolam> Does it happens to you that copy.paste is wreat on windows target machines with TViewer?
[08:41] <nikolam> greyed
[08:42] <ANub> nikolam: I hve not chkd that feature ( :) ).......so cant comment
[08:42] <nikolam> seems like teamviewer bug but need to recheck it
[08:43] <nikolam> ANub, you copy something on linux machine (clipboard), start teamviewer, connect to windows machine and check it copy/paste works for you in windows explorer
[08:43] <hydrox24> Try looking in "Extras > Options > Advanced" and make sure that Sync Clipboard is ticked.
[08:43] <rudrab> friends, is there any dedicated channel for ubuntu phones?
[08:43] <MonkeyDust> !phone
[08:43] <ANub> nikolam: yeah....... I think it wont.........because controls are transferred......Does it work in Windows..?
[08:44] <hydrox24> nikolam: Try looking in "Extras > Options > Advanced" and make sure that Sync Clipboard is ticked.
[08:44] <ANub> hydrox24: mine is already checked
[08:45] <nikolam> it is, sync clipboards is checked, hydrox24
[08:46] <ANub> nikolam: Does it work in Windows..?
[08:46] <nikolam> it works if i DON't copy something to local clipboard, before starting teamviewer on linux
[08:46] <nikolam> ANub, yes, it works locally.
[08:46] <ANub> nikolam: hmmmm..........wait lemme chk
[08:46] <nikolam> so it is confirmed, it is teamviewer bug on linux when connecting to windows
[08:47] <nikolam> ANub, it works when TV is disconnected.. when connected with clipboard, it also does not work.
[08:47] <hydrox24> There's a good workaround (though when I say good, it sucks). Just paste the text into a text file, upload the file to the client and copy it out of the text file in teamviewer on the client.
[08:48] <Neozonz|Disc> is there a yum package for litecoin?
[08:48] <Neozonz|Disc> *aptitude
[08:48] <nikolam> hydrox24, I close and restart TV session with no copied text and get it working untill next time i need to paste something from linux machine
[08:49] <nikolam> Neozonz|Disc, see packages.ubuntu.com, seraching ppa.ubuntu.com and see for project site of the app for packages/instructions.
[08:49] <ANub> nikolam: Ive chked it ........you can copy paste from remote to remote
[08:49] <adrenalink> I have Ubuntu 10.04 and since the last update I can't access my gnome desktop. A login window appears to me but the only way to access the gnome deskop is to launch a "gnome emergency desktop". Is there a problem with the last update? (I also had auto-login at startup!)
[08:49] <ANub> nikolam: but from remote to local ....use file transfer function.........because controls are changed
[08:49] <nikolam> ANub, yes, you can but it turns off local copy-paste on target windows machine , during the session
[08:50] <Neozonz|Disc> ppa.ubuntu.com cannot be found
[08:50] <cfhowlett> Neozonz|Disc, ppa ubuntu?  ppa is for 3rd party repositories, not official ubuntu repos ...
[08:50] <nikolam> Neozonz|Disc, I was thinking, you go to launchpad.net and search name of the program, to see if PPA is available
[08:51] <ANub> nikolam: you mean ubuntu..?
[08:51] <k1l_> Neozonz|Disc: it doesnt work that way you want.
[08:51] <nikolam> Neozonz|Disc, if you see what app developers say, maybe you could package it yourself and put into PPA to use for yourself and others
[08:51] <Neozonz|Disc> https://launchpad.net/~litecoinppa/+archive/ppa < but this ppa doesn't contain any packages yet?
[08:51] <k1l_> Neozonz|Disc: neither yum, nor will the ppa.ubuntu.com url working
[08:52] <nikolam> Neozonz|Disc, PPA is different and unrelated to Ubuntu itself.
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !yum
[08:52] <nikolam> Neozonz|Disc, learn how to build packages and put them into PPA
[08:52] <k1l_> Neozonz|Disc: then ask the maintianer of that PPA. ubuntu doesnt support that program
[08:52] <shafox> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16210402/ubuntu-10-04-brightness-stuck-at-0-on-my-hp-laptop-how-to-change
[08:52] <Neozonz|Disc> ok thanks
[08:53] <adrenalink>  have Ubuntu 10.04 and since the last update I can't access my gnome desktop. A login window appears to me but the only way to access the gnome deskop is to launch a "gnome emergency desktop". Is there a problem with the last update? (I also had auto-login at startup!)
[08:54] <lolcat> adrenalink: use a newer version?
[08:55] <nikolam> adrenalink, try logging from console (Ctrl+Alt+F2 , F7 is desktop) and do sudo chown <username> /home/username -R  to check fiel permissions to your home dir.
[08:55] <adrenalink> loicat: simple solution. But i need this one
[08:55] <nikolam> file
[08:55] <[S^K]> TheChistoso: I am echoing an environment variable into a file for configuration purposes. e.g. sudo echo_supervisord_conf > /etc/supervisord.conf but I always get permission denied
[08:56] <nikolam> adrenalink, LTS can be updated to 12.04 LTS. To my experience, even LTS update is awfully problematic.
[08:57] <adrenalink> nikolam: i have read write access to all my home directory. So I think it's not the problem
[08:57] <ubuntufan241> When is the EXACT release time of 13.04 please?
[08:57] <AtuM> Hello. I have a problem with 12.10 server not showing logon screen after boot.. i think this might be plymouth related, but don't know how to troubleshoot. i can logon using tty2 or ssh.
[08:57] <k1l_> ubuntufan241:  just watch in #ubuntu-release-party
[08:58] <cfhowlett> ubuntufan241, perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server
[08:58] <k1l_> cfhowlett: no. dont forward them to ubuntu-server :/
[08:58] <cfhowlett> ubuntufan241, ignore.  meant that for AtuM
[08:58] <cfhowlett> k1l_, eh?  Why?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> k1l_, oh, I see.
[08:59] <AtuM> I've asked in ubuntu-server, but there's no reply.. i believe that troubleshooting plymouth should be very similar
[08:59] <adrenalink> nikolam: it seems to be a problem with gdm http://superuser.com/questions/291044/cannot-login-in-graphical-mode-ubuntu-10-04-lts
[08:59] <k1l_> cfhowlett: refering to the release time questions
[09:01] <cfhowlett> k1l_, right.  I misread.  meant to suggest atuM ask about server issues in #server.  My mistake.
[09:01] <apm1> !isitout
[09:01] <k1l_> cfhowlett: yep, saw that correction. no problem :)
[09:01] <starbuck> hello, why are there 2 personal address books in thunderbird by default?
[09:02] <AtuM> nikolam, i don't use gdm.. it's all command line
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> AtuM  you're a geek
[09:03] <nikolam> AtuM, i use teamviewer on ubuntu in vbox. and X is on the host machine. :P there is no X in vbox, but I use ssh -X
[09:03] <apm1> startx is the best DM
[09:03] <k1l_> apm1: nope, not on ubuntu
[09:03] <mca53> How can i display more than one marker in google maps in my rails app
[09:03] <nikolam> apm1, I agree
[09:04] <AtuM> ok, so noone knows how to troubleshoot plymouth?
[09:05] <asgeir_> its out :)
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> AtuM  "If no one answers right away, try the mailing list:  http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/plymouth | More information about plymouth:  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth"
[09:06] <AtuM> tnx MonkeyDust
[09:07] <mca53> mongod raising geonear error in my app is there any solution to fix ?
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> mca53  are you devlopping?
[09:08] <mca53> yes
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> mca53  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[09:08] <mca53> what is that ?
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> mca53  it's channel
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> mca53  it's a channel
[09:09] <mca53> will try it thanx
[09:10] <Amnuriak> Trying to get my monitors detected correctly again. My second monitor is not recognized at all and my first one is falsely detected as "Laptop". Tried opensource and propert. drivers (card: ATI FirePro 2770). I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log there is "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:0) found"
[09:13] <joelsh> I'm afraid of rebooting my server now because I think that it will ask me to choose kernel when I start it.. then I have to have access to the server and press a key.. :/ how can I make this not happend?
[09:14] <k1l_> joelsh: it will boot the first kernel automatically after 10 seconds
[09:30] <Amnuriak> Trying to get my monitors detected correctly again. My second monitor is not recognized at all and my first one is falsely detected as "Laptop". Tried opensource and propert. drivers (card: ATI FirePro 2770). I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log there is "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:0) found"
[09:31] <exalt> when will 13.04 be released ?
[09:31] <IdleOne> !party
[09:32] <ANub> exalt: depending on your location............today or tomorrow
[09:34] <jony> how can I clone an USB memory stick?
[09:36] <belgianguy> jony: dd or clonezilla?
[09:37] <ANub> jony: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186131/how-do-i-use-dd-to-clone-an-external-usb-drive-installation-to-a-local-hard-disk
[09:38] <belgianguy> I've used dd before to rescue some poor saps PhD documents
[09:38] <belgianguy> (well dd and photorec)
[09:39] <jony> ANub, ty
[09:44] <Andy__> !out
[09:47] <Andy__> !isitout
[09:48] <Guest31865> hi
[09:49] <oupateddie> I have a problem getting past my grub screen in 11.10 as machine does not read usb keyboard suddenly today after power failure. Booting from CD works but I can get past grub with direct boot. Any ideas
[09:49] <oupateddie> can't* Sorry
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> is 11.10 still supported?
[09:50] <ANub> oupateddie: Perhaps your Grub partition is corrupt
[09:50] <DJones> I think so for another week or so
[09:50] <ANub> oupateddie: Perhaps your Grub partition is corrupt.....reinstalling grub would help
[09:50] <DJones> MonkeyDust: I think so for another week or so
[09:51] <oupateddie> OK how do I do that?
[09:51] <oupateddie> I am running 11.10 but booting from cd 12.04
[09:51] <DJones> MonkeyDust: EOL is 9th May 2013
[09:52] <Rompoy> hi
[09:52] <oupateddie> I just want to get back into the machine on 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04
 have a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:52] <oupateddie> thanks
[09:58] <user> When will ubuntu 13.04 be released?
[09:59] <DJones> !party | user
[10:00] <root___11> where to get packages for linux
[10:00] <root___11> ???
[10:00] <BlackDalek> Help! I am trying to flash a PC's BIOS using the method of booting freeDOS from a USB stick... But I have no idea how to copy the BIOS utility to the freeDOS USB stick... any clues?
[10:01] <ANub> root____11: use ubuntu software center
[10:01] <DJones> root___11: Packages for what? You can use Software Centre to find software to install
[10:01] <root___11> i just forgot the name of the web site
[10:02] <root___11> where i get all the package as i need
[10:02] <DJones> root___11: There is packages.ubuntu.com that download packages for offline installation
[10:02] <root___11> does it works only for ubuntu or other too?
[10:03] <DJones> root___11: They're ubuntu packages
[10:03] <k1l_> root___11: that is for ubuntu. for others ask the others support
[10:03] <k1l_> !rootirc | root___11
[10:04] <ANub> ubottu : funny
[10:09] <jony> when will be released the 13.04?
[10:10] <snuggl> today, according to the plan
[10:10] <snuggl> but its still broken for me so i hope there will be another update
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> today = 24h
[10:10] <DJones> jony: At some point today, there's no specific release time, you can join #ubuntu-release-party to await the release
[10:10] <BlackDalek> help... I used unetbootin to create a bootable FreeDOS USB stick.... HOW do I copy my BIOS flash utility to it???? The directory I see when it is mounted under Ubuntu is totally different to what I see when I boot the computer using the USB....
[10:11] <snuggl> BlackDalek: your USB-sick root is in /cdrom once you have booted ubuntu
[10:11] <snuggl> usb-stick*
[10:12] <MissValeska> Hiya
[10:12] <MissValeska> I think I have a corrupted Ubuntu partition of sorts.
[10:13] <MissValeska> http://pastebin.com/Nf4EFDZr
[10:13] <BlackDalek> snuggl why? Isn't /cdrom my DVD drive (empty)?
[10:14] <snuggl> BlackDalek: probably legacy reasons
[10:14] <snuggl> like, some installer thingies only read from /cdrom, idk
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> MissValeska  sda10 ? 10 partitions?
[10:15] <MissValeska> yesh
[10:15] <MissValeska> Well
[10:15] <MissValeska> I don't think so
[10:16] <MissValeska> Hmm, I guess I have eleven.
[10:16] <Arnold> Even an extended partition takes up one device number.
[10:16] <MissValeska> yeah
[10:17] <MissValeska> I have a EFI partition (This is a macbook) and a Macbook recovery partition.
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> MissValeska  type sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[10:17] <Paddy_NI> Has Ubuntu 13.04 been released yet?
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  any time now
[10:17] <k1l_> !party | Paddy_NI
[10:17] <Paddy_NI> okay cool
[10:18] <DJones> Paddy_NI: GIve it another few hours
[10:18] <guier> Hello I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 for quite a while having Gnome 2.30.2. I have migrated to 12.04 recently but I have a problem I can't find a way to add "Go > History" so I can browse my past folders quickly as I had with Nautilus 2.30.1. I am using the fail-safe GNOME option. Is there a way to get History back on with Nautilus?
[10:18] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust, I used to love that show by the way
[10:18] <MissValeska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600629/
[10:18] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386224/
[10:19] <ac> join #ubuntu-release-party
[10:20] <ac> help
[10:20] <iLogical> when is it coming out
[10:20] <belgianguy> ac first /
[10:20] <k1l_> ac you missed the / in fron of join
[10:20] <belgianguy>  /join #channel
[10:20] <DJones> !party | iLogical
[10:20] <ac> thanks
[10:20] <Arnold> MissValeska, hmm. Apparently it has one GPT header partition, one Mac OS X partition, one Mac OS X recovery partition and the Linux one (which I presume it's Ubuntu)
[10:20] <iLogical> !Raring
[10:20] <BlackDalek> snuggl, I don't think that worked... I copied files to the /cdrom directory, but it does not seem to be the USB stick. The /cdrom directory and files are still present at that location even AFTER the USB stick is ejected.
[10:22] <user> !Raring
[10:22] <MissValeska> Yes, Ubuntu
[10:22] <MissValeska> I do, However, Have seven EXT4 partitions
[10:23] <MissValeska> All of which contain Ubuntu
[10:23] <belgianguy> a seperate install on each?
[10:23] <Arnold> I did notice something strange, though. The end sector number. It wasn't the same as the total one.
[10:23] <Atlantic777> Hi! After a power issue, resolution got messed up, there are only 640x480 and 320x240 and I need 1024x768. It's an old nvidia gpu with proprietary drivers and lubuntu 12.04. Any ideas how to fix that?
[10:24] <DrGrov> Hi everyone.
[10:24] <Kajover> hi, is ubuntu 13.04 already out on the ftp server?
[10:24] <Atlantic777> Kajover: join #ubuntu-release-party
[10:24] <DJones> Kajover: No, its not
[10:24] <Kajover> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ <- because it looks like it is
[10:25] <DrGrov> I am having a problem, running Ubuntu 12.04 and my computer won't turn on at all. Just flashing a red light upon startup and no BIOS screen. What can I do?
[10:25] <k1l_> Kajover: no its not out yet
[10:25] <k1l_> Kajover: wait in #ubuntu-release-party for the official announce
[10:25] <k1l_> Kajover: and refuse to paste links, thanks
[10:25] <belgianguy> DrGrov: make Ubuntu LiveCD/LiveUSB, boot from it, Backup everything you need, then start fixing
[10:25] <Kajover> ah ok
[10:26] <belgianguy> MissValeska: anything that might have caused that faillure?
[10:27] <MissValeska> I don't remember, It happened months ago.
[10:27] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Well I can not even access my CD/DVD, it does not boot up from them either.
[10:28] <MissValeska> Though
[10:28] <MissValeska> I ALWAYS have problems on this computer
[10:28] <MissValeska> I install Ubuntu, And, I think it is gaurenteed now
[10:28] <BlackDalek> Help!!! HOW do I copy files to a bootable FreeDOS USB stick created using unetbootin???? I need to copy the files to it so that they show up once the PC is booted from USB???
[10:28] <MissValeska> It will, Eventually, Have a problem which makes it unusable
[10:29] <cfhowlett> !persistence|BlackDalek
[10:29] <vekexasia> hello how can i force a package to be installed withouth checking its dependencies?
[10:29] <DrGrov> I did not install any updates. It just won't start, what can I do about the BIOS when it does not boot up at all? Just has a blinking red light shown and nothing happens.
[10:30] <belgianguy> DrGrov: that seems odd, if you can't get into the BIOS, you have hardware problems, I'm afraid
[10:31] <belgianguy> DrGrov: do you see anything appear on screen?
[10:31] <DrGrov> belgianguy: No, I do not see anything appearing on screen. Should I remove all cables etc. and wait and try again?
[10:31] <belgianguy> DrGrov: is this an old computer?
[10:32] <DrGrov> belgianguy: No, not particularly old. It is a server machine, a HP xw9300 Workstation.
[10:32] <belgianguy> DrGrov: does it beep or flash a led in certain sequence?
[10:32] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, I do not understand what is meant by 'persistent file storage'
[10:33] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, you wanted storage of files on your usb, i.e. persistent storage
[10:33] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Yes, it flashes a led in red color upon startup in a sequence it seems. It flashes it like something is stuck. A few seconds and stops and starts again.
[10:33] <belgianguy> DrGrov: try looking online for what that sequence means
[10:34] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Okay, I will look. Thanks.
[10:34] <belgianguy> DrGrov: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=459226&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c00300335
[10:34] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Thanks :)
[10:34] <izx> I want to view all the packages which is installed after installation of OS excluding its dependencies.. How do i list it??
[10:35] <cfhowlett> izx, dpkg -l
[10:35] <ejv> dpkg --get-selections
[10:36] <cfhowlett> ejv, even better.  thanks for correction
[10:36] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Okay, I got it. It is processor thermal protection activated. Ok, then I gotta figure that one out.
[10:36] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, ok.. but I don't have a linux USB live CD.. it's a FreeDOS USB - so is that page even relevant?
[10:36] <DrGrov> belgianguy: It was going really warm last night, had it running for a long time.
[10:37] <ejv> cfhowlett: ;)
[10:37] <ejv> cfhowlett: I believe -l takes an additional argument/parameter to function
[10:37] <izx> ejv: Both the command lists all packages, i just want to view the additional packages which is installed after the default installation..
[10:37] <izx> like samba shutter ubuntu-restricted etc..
[10:38] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, error ... I don't know.  Silly me, assumed the process was the same.  best check with freedos
[10:38] <bvi> any clue when 13.04 will hit the servers ?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> bvi, soon.
[10:38] <DJones> !party | bvi
[10:38] <zvacet> izx: I don´t know how t odo it without list of packages installed by default
[10:38] <ejv> izx: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install \"
[10:38] <bvi> vool :-)
[10:38] <ejv> izx: analyze timestamps
[10:39] <zvacet> izx:if you can get that list it will be easy just diff
[10:39] <BlackDalek> someone told me copying the files to /cdrom directory would copy to my FreeDOS USB stick, but that turned out to be bollocks.
[10:39] <cfhowlett> izx, see http://cpuug.org/index.php?topic=219.0
[10:40] <MadsRC> Hi Guys, need some help. I recently got a USB recovery usb from HP, and after I'm done using it I want to see if it can be formated and used as a usb pen. Problem is that the usb pen is recognized as a CDrom drive in both windows and Linux... Do youk now any way to format it? I've tried fdisk and dd, both saying that it is read only :(
[10:40] <ejv> izx: sry *installed*
[10:40] <ejv> not install
[10:41] <ejv> izx: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ installed \"
[10:41] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Is there anything I can do for that issue? If it is then the power supply having a power failure... Can that somehow be fixed just by waiting and letting it cool down?
[10:44] <belgianguy> DrGrov: I'd replace it if I were you, or was this machine opened recently?
[10:44] <belgianguy> if not opened recently, I'd say replace the PSU
[10:45] <DrGrov> belgianguy: How you mean opened recently?
[10:45] <DrGrov> belgianguy: I cleaned it a few weeks ago, removing most of the dust inside.
[10:46] <belgianguy> DrGrov: do you have another workstation like that?
[10:47] <DrGrov> belgianguy: No, just that one.
[10:48] <knightshade> DrGrov: have you added any new hardware recently? if so, the power supply could be to weak
[10:49] <knightshade> *too
[10:49] <ggherdov> Hi all. why my ubuntu 12.10 update-manager isn't proposing me the update to 13.04 yet ?
[10:49] <k1l_> ggherdov: its not out yet
[10:49] <ggherdov> k1l_: ok
[10:49] <DrGrov> knightshade: No, I have not actually added anything. Good point to remind me.
[10:49] <DrGrov> knightshade: What can I actually do while it is overloaded? Does something help at all?
[10:50] <Leighton> Just in case anyone was looking for 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[10:50] <belgianguy> DrGrov: most likely something physically broke in the PSU, and it can only fixed by replacing it AFAIK
[10:50] <belgianguy> unless it has a fuse of some sort
[10:50] <belgianguy> but I doubt it
[10:50] <k1l_> Leighton: dont post urls untill the official release
[10:51] <Leighton> k1l_: oh, sorry
[10:51] <DrGrov> belgianguy: But how would something break and just worked perfectly well 6 hours ago?
[10:52] <jose-gregorio> hi
[10:52] <varikonniemi> so are the 13.04 isos final, and only the announcement is missing?
[10:52] <DJones> varikonniemi: Its not been announced yet, so assume not
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  any moment now
[10:52] <varikonniemi> http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[10:52] <varikonniemi> looks final to me
[10:52] <belgianguy> DrGrov: things break...
[10:52] <k1l_> varikonniemi: just qait for the announcment in #ubuntu-release-party
[10:53] <varikonniemi> ok
[10:53] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Well yes, they do =)
[10:53] <DrGrov> belgianguy: I will clean it out again and unplug it and leave it for a bit to see what happens.
[10:53] <jose-gregorio> hi guys
[10:53] <belgianguy> DrGrov: I'd say try with another PSU, but that might break more
[10:53] <belgianguy> (they need to have the same output at least)
[10:54] <belgianguy> DrGrov: good luck
[10:54] <aadd> hi I was trying to download realtek linux drivers and I couldn't reach the download server
[10:54] <aadd> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722
[10:54] <aadd> is it working for anyone else?
[10:54] <FloodBot1> aadd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Thank you.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> aadd, works for me
[10:54] <jose-gregorio> how install warcraft 3?
[10:54] <aadd> were you able to download the file?
[10:55] <jose-gregorio> yes
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> !who | aadd
[10:56] <aadd> ubottu, I'm new to IRC. Thanks for the tip
[10:57] <aadd> cfhowlett, were you able to download the files under RTL8188CE?
[10:59] <moppers> ok so i see rarign ISOs are up. does it work?
[10:59] <moppers> should i wait for the first patch or go now?
[10:59] <aadd> Is anyone able to download the Linux drivers from http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722 for    RTL8188CE?
[10:59] <starbuck> hi, why are there 2 personal address books in thunderbird by fefault?
[10:59] <k1l_> moppers: at least you should wait for th official announcment
[11:00] <k1l_> aadd: that is better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic since its not a ubuntu problem
[11:00] <apm1> !isitoutyet
[11:00] <moppers> aadd, successfully downloading but slow
[11:01] <moppers> aadd, i clicked all 6 mirrors though and cancelled the others after 1 started
[11:01] <aadd> The server refuses the connection everytime I try to download it
[11:01] <moppers> aadd, i am currently in UK if that makes a difference
[11:01] <cfhowlett> aadd, it's not out yet!
[11:01] <aadd> moppers, is there anyone you can send it to me?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> aadd, never mind, wrong thread.
[11:01] <apm1> lol
[11:02] <cfhowlett> aadd, I could see it but did not attempt download
[11:02] <moppers> aadd, i will pm you link i am downloading from, and when it arrives, a dropbox link to the file
[11:02] <k1l_> aadd: last time now. downloading site problems are no ubuntu problems
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !cookie|moppers,
[11:02] <aadd> moppers, that would be great. Thank you :)
[11:02] <apm1> !cookie|apm1
[11:02] <Eeeeeeeeeeetan_> ふぁっきゅー
[11:02] <sliddjur> im running ubuntu 13.04 on virtualbox. it idles at 70% cpu. host os is win7. i have a winxp guest that use 3-5% idle cpu. how can I improve this?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> !jp
[11:03] <Wusel_> is it possible to restrict a user from creating subdirectorys? creating files should still be possible
[11:03] <apm1> i got a cookie anyway XD
[11:03] <aadd> ubottu, how do I see private messages?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> sliddjur, well for one, wait for then install the final release
[11:04] <apm1> lol
[11:04] <sliddjur> cfhowlett: ubuntu 12.10 is the same :s
[11:05] <moppers> the final release ISOs are up
[11:06] <apm1> !isitout
[11:06] <apm1> moppers, lier
[11:06] <cfhowlett> moppers, nope.  waiting official announcement
[11:07] <apm1> torrents will be as fast as the direct links will be slow
[11:08] <lars_t_h> cfhowlett, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/release/ - "release" means the final release, true?
[11:09] <habanany> hi guys , can anybody tell me if this is the right link to download ubuntu for usb  raring-desktop-armhf+omap4.img       24-Apr-2013 18:27  663M  Desktop image for Texas Instruments OMAP4 (Hard-Float) computers (USB image)
[11:09] <Myrtti> it's not out until the official announcement is done.
[11:09] <DJones> lars_t_h: Its not announced yet, there can still be changes
[11:10] <habanany> i have always used this one PC (Intel x86) desktop image For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[11:10] <lars_t_h> DJones, ok but a lot of date+time stamps say 25-Apr-2013 10:35
[11:11] <cfhowlett> lars_t_h, when it's announced ... it's official.  till then ...
[11:11] <minas_> if your pc is 32bit, download the x86 version, regardless of CPU type. if it is 6
[11:12] <habanany> forgot to mention , im interested in the daily buid
[11:12] <Dr_willis> !arm
[11:12] <moppers> so the iso here is not the final one? http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ ... also do-release-uprade is now working for me without -d ? is it out or not?
[11:12] <aadd> I need help! I'm not able to download the RTL8188CE drivers for linux from the Realtek server. Can someone help me download it?
[11:13] <Dr_willis> moppers,  untill its officially released this channel will tell you to 'wait'
[11:14] <linusoleander> Anyone know how to use monit to monitor postfix?
[11:15] <aadd> I need help! I'm not able to download the RTL8188CE drivers for linux from the Realtek server. Can someone help me download it?
[11:15] <aadd> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722
[11:15] <ketan985> How much time is remaining  in Ubuntu 13.04 launching ?
[11:16] <k1l_> aadd: last warning now: this is not the right channel for downloadin problems. so ask in offtopic
[11:16] <DJones> ketan985: Could be hours yet, join #ubuntu-release-party for discussion & partying though
[11:16] <aadd> Alright
[11:16] <ketan985> ok Thanks
[11:16] <raven_> rsync: how to backup to a remotehost via ssh with custom sshport?
[11:17] <BlackDalek> what is the EASIEST way for an Ubuntu machine to run a BIOS flash utility which has been made to run under DOS?
[11:17] <k1l_> raven_: ssh -p or -P
[11:17] <lnxslck> BlackDalek, put the bios on a cdrom and boot from it
[11:18] <k1l_> (and then the port number)
[11:18] <Dr_willis> BlackDalek,  a freedos live cd - if it must run from dos.
[11:18] <raven_> k1l_, what is the full syntax?
[11:18] <k1l_> raven_: what full syntax?
[11:19] <lars_t_h> DJones, thx for telling about #ubuntu-release-party
[11:19] <raven_> k1l_, where to put in the ssh command, how to set the dirs and so on
[11:19] <BlackDalek> Dr_willis, I am currently struggling with trying to get the BIOS Flash utility onto the FreeDOS USB stick... it seems to be impossible...
[11:19] <raven_> k1l_, the full rsync command
[11:20] <KyeRussell> back
[11:20] <ANub> raven_: you can try rsync.......its much more versatile for data backup
[11:20] <gazzwi86> So I'm trying to install something but Im not sure what the process should be: https://github.com/lastfm/Fingerprinter
[11:21] <gazzwi86> I presumed apt-get should install the libraries required, but no luck there.
[11:21] <alexandros_c> has anyone upgraded from 12.10 13.04/
[11:21] <k1l_> raven_: rsync -some_operators_here_with_-e_for_ssh ssh -p 123456 /path/to/dir user@example.com:/path/to/dir
[11:21] <fidel> !anyone
[11:21] <k1l_> alexandros_c: its not  released yet. and general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:22] <alexandros_c> thanks kill
[11:23] <cfhowlett> vibhav, https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu5ggqu2fges797/GrumpyCow.jpg
[11:27] <ubu> hello
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> howdy
[11:27] <cfhowlett> ubu, greetings
[11:28] <apm1> from planet earth
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  no, it's not out yet ;)
[11:28] <apm1> !isitoutyet
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: oh lordy
[11:28] <apm1> ActionParsnip, syntax error
[11:29] <apm1> it goes like "oh Lawdy lawd"
[11:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:29] <ubu> i'm having an issue with CIFS, it used to just work but now my machine gets stuck booting up and never completes the boot process cause it's stuck on a CIFS VFS error -101
[11:30] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: now look what you've done :p
[11:30] <ywrmn> what's the "R" release today?
[11:30] <anew> when you set a crontab, is it set from the moment you make it? like if i set it every 12 hours, is it every 12 hours from the moment i save or is it set to some internal clock
[11:30] <ywrmn> Runty Rabbit?
[11:31] <k1l_> apm1: please stop that release topic in here. we have #ubuntu-release-party for that
[11:31] <apm1> k11_ sorry
[11:31] <k1l_> ywrmn: raring ringtail is its name
[11:31] <ywrmn> rar, as in the file format?
[11:32] <apm1> ranty rabbit
[11:32] <apm1> lmao
[11:32] <cfhowlett> next up: slitherin serpent
[11:33] <meerkat> huh. so the next release is SS?
[11:33] <hangman5950> any one able to take some time to help me w a networking issue on my ubunt
[11:33] <Raha> sb help me
[11:33] <Dr_willis> cfhowlett,  soapy slug
[11:33] <Raha> i want to setip kali on vmware
[11:33] <Raha> and the file is gz
[11:33] <Raha> the vm didnt know that
[11:33] <Dr_willis> Raha,  and whats Kali?
[11:34] <iorweth_> 13.04 release delayed?
[11:34] <hangman5950> need help!!!!!!!!!!
[11:34] <Raha> KALI is ke a distributed
[11:34] <senthil_> hi i need help on vim.. i am new to irc
[11:34] <cfhowlett> iorweth_, it'll be released 04/25/13 ...
[11:34] <hangman5950> vm ubuntu help please
[11:34] <Dr_willis> Raha,  you chould be in whatever Channel does Kali Support. since its not an official ubuntu variant. so not supported here.
[11:34] <iorweth_> wich is today cfhowlett
[11:34] <Dr_willis> iorweth_,  it will be out when its out.
[11:34] <belgianguy> urff, I'm going to do the sane things and get stuff done
[11:34] <meerkat> what happens for release 17.10?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> iorweth_, until midnight so be patient
[11:35] <IdleOne> !party
[11:35] <hangman5950> 12.04 ubuntu on vm help please
[11:35] <olegb> !ask
[11:35] <Dr_willis> hangman5950,  you should state the actual problem
[11:35] <Raha> i know that but i didnt find the channel
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what are you using to virtualise as well please
[11:36] <meerkat> 17.04 is zz, does it start over on AA?
[11:36] <k1l_> meerkat: that is offtopic in here
[11:37] <meerkat> how so?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> Raha,  check its web site to see if it even has a channel or forums
[11:37] <hangman5950> ok I installed ubuntu on my VM and I try to access the server for my files thru it but when I click it says it needs a password and their isnt one on my server so i hit continue and nothing tried also admin-password and admin-admin but no luck
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> meerkat: this is people with system issues
[11:37] <k1l_> meerkat: this is a technical support channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what service are you using to share files?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what are you using to virtualize?
[11:38] <hangman5950> oraclebox and its my server on my network to keep up the site and hold my work files
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: ok, virtualbox ;)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what are you using to share files wth? samba? sftp? ftp?
[11:39] <hangman5950> yup
[11:39] <hangman5950> ftp
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what have you used to connect to the FTP service?
[11:39] <hangman5950> all i want is to log on to it.
[11:40] <hangman5950> an ethernet cable from my office to the server
[11:40] <olegb> hangman5950: have you created a user for the login ?
[11:40] <Raha> need helpppppppp
[11:41] <hangman5950> no its just my name and the workgroup. I am connected thru wwindows
[11:41] <Raha> perl or python for be a good sysadmin?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Raha,  yes to both
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: no, what client application on the windows side>
[11:42] <k1l_> !away > derWachert
[11:42] <hangman5950> idk man I just open my computer click network and their it is in windows but not in network it will let me see the network but let me onto the server
[11:42] <olegb> hangman5950: you need a user to login (or setup anonymous access)
[11:43] <Raha> at last i  will learn both but know for the firt which one
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: try filezilla under Windows
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: or even Firefox, handles it well
[11:43] <Dr_willis> Raha,  if you have totally zero programing experience.. start with python
[11:43] <Raha> DR_willis i found that its #kali
[11:44] <anew> when you set a crontab, is it set from the moment you make it? like if i set it every 12 hours, is it every 12 hours from the moment i save or is it set to some internal clock
[11:44] <hangman5950> but how? I am new to ubuntu I didnt connect to a network last time i had this installed on my laptop
[11:45] <Raha> i didnt really programming pro, but k know all concepts
[11:45] <jrib> anew: internal clock
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: install filezila and connect to the IP you have on the virtual system
[11:46] <anew> jrib so when i set it for every 6 hours, it's every 6 hours sstarting from what time ?
[11:46] <jrib> anew: no.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: if you set the network as bridged rather than NAT, it will take an IP from your router and seem like another PC attached to your LAN
[11:46] <hangman5950> when I install on VM shoul i use Virtual disc image, virtual machine disk, or virtual hard disk
[11:46] <Raha> i think it's better to learn python first, but there is a lot of scrips in liux by perl so i am confuse to choose
[11:46] <anew> no ?
[11:47] <jrib> anew: I'm not sure what you want me to say.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: surely this si already done
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: if you are unsure, the defaults are fine
[11:47] <hangman5950> yeah but I want to make sure I chose corectly
[11:47] <anew> jrib no what ... if i set it for every 6 hours, it's every 6 hours starting from what time
[11:47] <hangman5950> well whats the differnece in them
[11:48] <jrib> anew: you gave two alternatives.  1) it's from the moment you set it or 2) it's internal time (which is ambiguous but presumably, is not the same as 1.  I said it was (2) and you asked me if it was (1).  Here, maybe the man page clears it up for you: Commands  are  executed by cron(8) when the minute, hour, and month of year fields match the current time, and when at least one of  the  two day  fields (day of
[11:48] <jrib> month, or day of week) match the current time
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Raha,  flip a coin.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: try filezilla as a client to the FTP server, it is free
[11:49] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Raha: learn one, then the other,
[11:49] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[11:49] <jrib> anew: do you understand?
[11:49] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[11:50] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[11:50] <Raha> perl is more easy yes?? it takes a long time to finish python and go to perl!
[11:50] <jrib> anew: when you say something like every two hours (*/2), that just gets translated to 0,2,4,6,...,22
[11:50] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:50] <anew> yes but my second question is not yes or no.  if i set it for every x hours or every 30 minutes... .it's every 30 minutes starting frmo what time
[11:50] <Dr_willis> cristian_c,  check out airdroid and you will never want to mess with bluetooth
[11:50] <anew> right now it's 1400, if i set a crontab for every 2 hours, when will it run
[11:50] <sixbb> is there a channel for mirror operators?
[11:50] <jrib> anew: see my last reply
[11:51] <cristian_c> Dr_willis, but I have not to connect through internet
[11:51] <anew> no i mean .... i must be asking this weird
[11:51] <cristian_c> Dr_willis, but locally
[11:51] <Dr_willis> cristian_c,  no local router for both to connect to? shame.
[11:51] <anew> jrib if i set it for every 12 hours, when will the first crontab run.  12 hours from the exact moment i hit save or 12 hours from .... (fill in the blank if you know)
[11:51] <Dr_willis> anew,  it dosent care when you 'save'
[11:51] <jrib> anew: do you understand when it would run if you set the hour field to "0,2,4,6,...,22" (with the ... appropriately filled in)?
[11:52] <anew> yes but what determines what is an hour !
[11:52] <moppers> the system clock
[11:52] <jrib> anew: can you answer my last question?  I'm not sure where you are confused
[11:52] <starbuck33> hey, anybody having trouble seeing the facebook contacts in pidgin?
[11:53] <torch1> it's not every 12 hours. It's at 12 o,clock
[11:53] <Draxelis> anyone use NOD32?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: have you tried renaming the pidgin profile folder after closing the app completely and setting up a new profile (just to test)
[11:53] <anew> torch1 so if i set it for every 3 hours, it's not every 3 hours... it's at 12,3, 6 etc
[11:54] <anew> with those numbers being the time on the server
[11:54] <Dr_willis> 24 hrs /3 => ever X oclock
[11:54] <Dr_willis> every X Oclock
[11:54] <anew> so if i save the crontab at 11:59 and make it for every hour, the crontab will run in one minute ?
[11:54] <shape> ZOMG: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[11:54] <jrib> anew: yes (for the third time)
[11:54] <Dr_willis> anew,  possibily
[11:54] <anew> possibly or yes ....
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shape: #ubuntu+1 for anything raring please
[11:54] <torch1> sorry, missed the first part where you said /12
[11:55] <Dr_willis> the time dosent matter.. cron is not acurate to the 'second' either.. i recall it has a bit of a leeway
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> shape: it will also be EOL before Quantal, so I wouldn't get massively excited
[11:55] <anew> ok so cron is not being run in x hours, it's actually being run by server time which is the fields ur setting
[11:55] <anew> i get it now thx
[11:55] <starbuck33> ActionParsnip: nope, but i tried to remove tha account and made a new one.... the thing is, if i show ofline buddies it shows all the fb contacts, and some of them are online... but it doesnt't show the online fb buddies when when the "show offline contacts" option is not activated in pidgin
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: not a new account, a new profile folder for all of Pidgin. There is a difference
[11:57] <starbuck33> ok, i try that
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: close pidgin and run:   mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old
[11:57] <__mike> hi guys
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: then launch pidgin
[11:58] <TuxVarmari> Who pinged me
[11:58] <starbuck33> ActionParsnip: ok, i'm onto it
[11:58] <TuxVarmari> Because I'm gonna hunt you down
[11:58] <TuxVarmari> oh. netsplit. makes sense.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> TuxVarmari: not hard, the channel is logged...
[11:58] <__mike> can i ask a question?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> __mike: as long as its ubuntu support based, yes :)
[11:59] <shape> !ask | mike
[12:00] <Raha> i started linux 3 months ago
[12:00] <Raha> i have LPIC-1 Certificate now
[12:00] <Raha> but i have no experience in linux
[12:00] <Raha> how can i improve my exp..
[12:01] <Dr_willis> makes us wonder what you hve been doing for 3 months
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Raha: use the OS
[12:01] <Raha> :)
[12:01] <k1l_> Raha: just use a linux. and since you ask in #ubuntu use ubuntu
[12:01] <Raha> i am using os
[12:01] <defekt> Raha: that your certificate and burn it
[12:02] <k1l_> Raha: and for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <Raha> my desk top is ubuntu don worry
[12:02] <defekt> !botsnack
[12:03] <Raha> but i want to be a system administrator
[12:03] <MadMurkaa> I believe this link here describes both the problem I'm experience, and also the solution that I need. However I don't understand how to apply the solution. Can anybody help please? http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0501/1538.html
[12:03] <k1l_> !ot | Raha
[12:04] <anew> check if a cron is running is: ps aux | grep cron
[12:04] <anew> ?
[12:04] <__mike> where can I find backtrack irc channel?
[12:04] <DJones> !backtrack | __mike
[12:04] <Raha> ubottu  .. your last sentece  means  stop asking here?
[12:04] <Raha> :(
[12:04] <__mike> thx
[12:04] <__mike> !backtrack
[12:05] <joeytwid1le_> anew: there is also pgrep for scripts
[12:05] <syntroPi> When will be the release of Raring Ringtail?
[12:05] <joeytwid1le_> Raha: install some services, administer them a bit :)
[12:05] <syntroPi> Wikipedia states its today?
[12:05] <DJones> !party | syntroPi
[12:06] <Raha> joeytwid1le: yes i want to make a list  of services for network and  run them
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> syntroPi  if wikipedia says it, then it *must* be true
[12:08] <Dr_willis> *citation needed*
[12:08] <ubu> ok, i just made my fstab have noauto for the smb shares and then i added mount /media/foo and mount /media/foo1 to my rc.local file. all is well again
[12:08] <joeytwid1le_> MadMurkaa: if you want to write to that folder, you will need to set the user/group to postfix:postdrop instead of 12345:54321  I don't know where you set those silly numbers, but you could try: grep 54321 /etc/ -r
[12:08] <syntroPi> MonkeyDust, hahaha approximately most of the time: YES
[12:09] <syntroPi> YAY speaking of: it just was released !!!
[12:09] <whitewolf_> Hi there , I need help with smthng related to torrents anyone pls pm me.
[12:09] <syntroPi> the moment we are speaking...
[12:09] <Dr_willis> Not untill the ops in here say so syntroPi
[12:10] <syntroPi> look at the website
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> the ubuntu homepage has changed to rating, ok
[12:10] <Dr_willis> dosent matter...... wait for it...
[12:10] <jrib> anew: what do you want to do?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> raring*
[12:10] <nugroho> WHA420355,SOC155694,YMH297433,WHA800477
[12:10] <anew> jrib i want to just check if my cron is running or not
[12:10] <jrib> anew: you want to check if the cron daemon is running?
[12:10] <anew> no, my specific script
[12:11] <GreenTuxer> 13.04 is officially out
[12:11] <user> !party
[12:11] <GreenTuxer> for those who didn't notice
[12:11] <Myrtti> GreenTuxer: great, time to party at #ubuntu-release-party then
[12:11] <jrib> anew: cron should log to /var/log/syslog
[12:12] <darrynvantonder> check the cron log?
[12:12] <whitewolf_> Anyone use torrents here?
[12:12] <whitewolf_> I need to set a torrent related software on ubuntu.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> !torrent
[12:13] <whitewolf_> Nah its not a torrent client
[12:13] <whitewolf_> I want to set a torrent tracker software on my machine.
[12:13] <the_kick> i cannot update my nautilus to 3.6 for love nor money
[12:14] <the_kick> tired adding the ppa etc
[12:14] <the_kick> stuck at 3.4.2
[12:15] <compdoc> welp, Im d/l 13.04 Server. Hope I like it
[12:15] <X-tonic> What time is the release?
[12:15] <X-tonic> stable out?
[12:15] <starbuck> ActionParsnip: does pidgin with FB work for you?
[12:15] <DJones> X-tonic: Its already out
[12:15] <compdoc> just got the email
[12:16] <X-tonic> thnx
[12:16] <user> Does Bumblebee 3.1 work with the new Ubuntu Release? I know there are some issues with the 3.2 Version of BUmblebee
[12:16] <darrynvantonder> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[12:16] <BluesKaj> whitewolf_, twatch
[12:17] <chxane> woo 13.04 live
[12:17] <tyrog> http://www.ubuntu.com/ its here :)
[12:17] <whitewolf_> whats twatch
[12:19] <BluesKaj> whitewolf_, look it up in your package manager
[12:20] <Chris___> Hi Community!
[12:21] <wanksta> how to format media using command line via terminal
[12:21] <Chris___> have a little bit problems with getting multithreaded downloads via xargs or parallel work with an ul-list file with much parameters... seems that parameters in inputfile aren't recognised or misinterpreted. Somebody here which has any experiences in this case?
[12:21] <whitewolf_> Hey blueskaj sorry for the misunderstanding , I dont want a tracker I wanna install opentracker to create my own tracker on my machine.
[12:22] <whitewolf_> I hope thats clear
[12:22] <cfhowlett> wanksta, I think mkfs is what you want
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !mkfs
[12:22] <BluesKaj> then you should have said so, whitewolf_ , sorry can't help there , maybe someone else can.
[12:22] <moppers> gahh scroll to switch isn't working still
[12:23] <izx> !release
[12:23] <whitewolf_> Its okay kaj ill find someone else
[12:23] <moppers> is raring supposed to have that or not?
[12:23] <wanksta> cfhowlett,  does need to be rooted
[12:23] <Chris___> Thats an exampleline of the input file:   --limit-rate=10000 --header="accept-encoding: gzip" -t10 -T10 "http://uni106.ogame.se/api/players.xml" -O "/usr/share/nginx/www/xmltemp/uni106.ogame.se-players.xml.gz"
[12:23] <cfhowlett> wanksta, probably
[12:23] <moppers> i am supposed to be able to hover over a launcher icon with multiple windows, and middle mouse wheel to swap between them?
[12:24] <Chris___> Somebody?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/new-ubuntu-13-04-features
[12:25] <moppers> Dr_willis, Yes. But it doesn't work for me.
[12:26] <Chris___> xargs seems to destroy something on this line because called with simple wget it will work.... --limit-rate=10000 --header="accept-encoding: gzip" -t10 -T10 "http://uni106.ogame.se/api/players.xml" -O "/usr/share/nginx/www/xmltemp/uni106.ogame.se-players.xml.gz"
[12:26] <Dr_willis> If you did  upgrade.. try it with a newly made user
[12:27] <moppers> is launchpad the official bugtracker?
[12:27] <k1l_> moppers: yes
[12:27] <Chris___> cat urllist.lst | xargs -n 1 -P 1 wget doesnt work with such lines...
[12:30] <moppers> not working on new user account either,  i will leave it a couple of days before creating a bug report
[12:30] <wanksta> cfhowlett, look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600875/
[12:31] <wanksta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600875/
[12:31] <cfhowlett> wanksta, if you still have files after formatting, then I have no idea what's going on ... sorry.
[12:31] <MadMurkaa> My postfix log files are suggesting that there's a problem with write permissions on the following directory (drwxr-sr-x 2 virtual virtual 4096 Apr 25 11:35 virtual). Does this look likely given the ls -dl output? How could I correct it?
[12:32] <belgianguy> err, I get an 13.04 upgrade alert, but it's release notes state that it's an ALPHA
[12:32] <belgianguy> is that normal?
[12:32] <rickborn> 13.04 was available for my machine this morning but message says it is alpha, I'm guessing that is just an out of date note?
[12:33] <rickborn> haha, someone beat me to this, nevermind :-)
[12:33] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, if you enabled pre-releases ...
[12:34] <MadMurkaa> This error from the log file might assist: (maildir delivery failed: create maildir file /var/spool/mail/virtual/ticktocktech.co.uk/admin/tmp/1366893024.P5256.ubuntu: Permission denied)
[12:34] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: I did not, just checked
[12:34] <belgianguy> http://i.imgur.com/mmxWcg3.png
[12:34] <georgi> Hello
[12:34] <rickborn> nor did I enable pre-releases
[12:34] <georgi> I have upgraded to beta of 13.04 and now that I see the final release I cannot upgrade to it , it does not show as option
[12:35] <jrib> georgi: just run regular updates, that will take to the final release
[12:35] <k1l_> georgi: just run the updates and it will be the final
[12:35] <Dr_willis> georgi,  do an sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade and it will e final
[12:35] <Pici> !final
[12:35] <varikonniemi> dist-upgrade
[12:35] <georgi> I do but it does not show up
[12:35] <georgi> I did that
[12:35] <jrib> georgi: what exactly are you looking for when you say "it does not show up"?
[12:35] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: http://i.imgur.com/xg5GlT3.png
[12:35] <Pici> georgi: it won't show up as a new release, you are already running 13.04
[12:35] <Dr_willis> if you do those commands from the cli.. it is  the final
[12:36] <georgi> well I see on the site it is released when I do dist-upgrade it does not
[12:36] <Pici> georgi: What does lsb_release -a report?
[12:36] <k1l_> georgi: there is no dist-upgrade from 13.04 beta to 13.04 final
[12:36] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, saw it.  I'd suspect a mislabelling somewhere
[12:36] <Joker-2> Hello
[12:36] <hachre> weird
[12:36] <georgi> ok k1l_
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, greetings
[12:36] <k1l_> georgi: thats what beta testers should know
[12:36] <hachre> I can't write in #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <georgi> so I just wait for regular updates
[12:36] <Joker-2> Is it possible to update ubuntu from 11.04 to 13.04 ?
[12:36] <hackeron_> hey, I'm trying to do a do-release-upgrade -- I'm getting: libncursesw5 : Depends: libtinfo5 (= 5.9-10ubuntu1) but 5.9-10ubuntu4 is to be installed --- any ideas?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, no.
[12:36] <Pici> hachre: 13.04 is released, support is in here.
[12:36] <georgi> but am I running final release now
[12:37] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, so manual installation is the only choice left ?
[12:37] <jrib> Joker-2: 11.04 → 11.10 → 12.04 → 12.10 → 13.04
[12:37] <hachre> Pici: oh, I thought it would directly switch to 13.10 then :)
[12:37] <hachre> the channel that is
[12:37] <hackeron_> Pici: oooh, support over here please :)
[12:37] <hachre> grats on the release guys! :) love 13.04 is great
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, and 11.04 is end of life .. quite end of life.
[12:37] <georgi> pici it says 13.04
[12:37] <Pici> georgi: then you're running 13.04.
[12:37] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, yeah...that's why I wanna update OS now
[12:37] <georgi> ok
[12:37] <Joker-2> question is HOW
[12:37] <georgi> thanks
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, clean install.  download the iso.  make a bootable media cd/usb and install
[12:38] <jrib> hackeron_: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libncursesw5 libtinfo5 »
[12:38] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, What If I go for update to 12.04 and then to 13.04. Will it work ?
[12:38] <Joker-2> update manager is ready to update 11.04 to 12.04.2
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, nope.  12.04 to 12.10 then 13.04
[12:39] <hackeron_> jrib: http://pastie.org/7716635
[12:39] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, damn
[12:39] <jrib> Joker-2: you can't skip releases, you need to do all these updates unless you do a fresh install: 11.04 → 11.10 → 12.04 → 12.10 → 13.04 .  At this point, backup and fresh install is likely easier and faster
[12:39] <BluesKaj> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, update manager shows 11.04 to 12.04 ??? it shouldn't.
[12:39] <jrib> hackeron_: « lsb_release -c »
[12:40] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, yeah it is showing
[12:40] <hackeron_> jrib: Codename:raring
[12:40] <jrib> hackeron_: so did do-release-upgrade start upgrading and quit or what?
[12:40] <Joker-2> by the way, How to run GUI application inside LXC
[12:40] <hackeron_> jrib: nope, I did do-release-upgrade and it showed an error: libncursesw5 : Depends: libtinfo5 (= 5.9-10ubuntu1) but 5.9-10ubuntu4 is to be installed
[12:40] <Joker-2>  ?
[12:41] <hackeron_> jrib: and now when I do apt-get dist-upgrade -- I see that error too
[12:41] <jrib> hackeron_: why do you have raring repos and packages from raring?
[12:41] <MadMurkaa_> Does user mail have write permission on this folder? If not, how would I assign it? drwxr-sr-x  3 root mail     4096 Apr 25 10:15 mail
[12:41] <hackeron_> jrib: I don't know, all I did was do-release-upgrade
[12:42] <jrib> hackeron_: you didn't do anything before that?
[12:42] <hackeron_> jrib: nope, nothing, it was a clean 12.04 release I believe
[12:42] <jrib> hackeron_: like change your sources.list or run apt-get of some sort for example?
[12:42] <hackeron_> jrib: sorry, 12.10
[12:42] <jrib> hackeron_: how far did do-release-upgrade get exactly?
[12:42] <hackeron_> jrib: no, nothing like that, I installed 12.10 because that's the CD I had and then I ran do-release-upgrade
[12:43] <hackeron_> jrib: erm, I just see this: http://pastie.org/7716683
[12:43] <hackeron_> jrib: how would I get the output from the screen session? - is there a log somewhere?
[12:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:45] <ShapeShifter499> A computer that is a thin client is basically a bare bones computer that netboots stuff off a server and displays it locally right?    is this possible on a PowerBook G4 and Ubuntu?
[12:45] <jrib> hackeron_: yes logs of the upgrade are kept in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ .  I'm still not sure what exactly you did.  I don't even see what you pasted originally in your last paste.  In any case, if you got this from a fresh 12.10 cd, I would strongly urge you to start over, carefully documenting your steps (install 12.10, run do-release-upgrade) as it's quite bad if it fails.  If it does fail again, try making
[12:45] <jrib> sure you are up to date (run normal upgrades) before doing the do-release-upgrade and see if you still have an issue.  If you do (either way) have the issue repeat itself, please file a bug report.
[12:46] <hackeron_> jrib: I was up to date, bessides, do-release-upgrade updates all packages before upgrading to the next dist
[12:46] <jrib> hackeron_: yes
[12:47] <ShapeShifter499> I have a much faster computer in another room and I'd like to "mirror" it to my PowerBook G4 in a secure way...  NoMachine did not go well on this PowerBook, kept crashing my X11
[12:47] <hackeron_> jrib: this is a raid0, it is very time consuming to re-instsall - what can I do with the current state?
[12:48] <hackeron_> jrib: here is the screen log output: http://pastie.org/7716714
[12:48] <jrib> hackeron_: my advice is that you do not try to fix the current state.  You don't lose anything with a reinstall and it's fairly bad that an upgrade would fail on a fresh install.  In any case, if you want to ignore my advice, you can try to run a regular "apt-get dist-upgrade" first and pastebin output
[12:50] <hackeron_> jrib: I do not have physical access to the box and it has no optical drive anymore - it would involve gaining access to the box and taking the box appart. Here is apt-get dist-upgrade output: http://pastie.org/7716724
[12:50] <bjensen> I just installed ubuntu lts onto my server. No monitor connected. I have a mac, if I put a network cable between the two.. can I then ssh into it ? How can I figure out which ip to use
[12:50] <jrib> hackeron_: try using -f (read output carefully)
[12:50] <MadMurkaa_> Does group mail have write permission on this folder? If not, how would I assign it? drwxr-sr-x  3 root mail     4096 Apr 25 10:15 mail
[12:51] <jrib> !permissions > MadMurkaa_, no it does not
[12:51] <hackeron_> jrib: this is with -f -- http://pastie.org/7716731
[12:51] <jrib> !permissions > MadMurkaa_ , no it does not
[12:51] <jrib> oops
[12:52] <jrib> hackeron_: does "apt-get -f install" do the same?  I've never used it the way you pasted
[12:53] <hackeron_> jrib: I tried to do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libtinfo5_5.9-10ubuntu1_amd64.deb -- it went a bit further. Now apt-get -f install shows this: http://pastie.org/7716750
[12:53] <Rompoy> use the program Rufus to make a pendrive bootable with 13.04 ISO. Is excellent and fast. So you don't need a DVD unit to install
[12:54] <hackeron_> jrib: or rather apt-get -f install just reinstalled the newer version of libtinfo5
[12:54] <jrib> hackeron_: what happened with dpkg?  Your last paste says libtinfo5 is 5.9-10ubuntu4
[12:54] <mernilio> Hi!
[12:55] <mernilio> Do you have an off-topic channel?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> mernilio, greetings
[12:55] <jrib> !ot | mernilio
[12:55] <mernilio> cfhowlett: thanks!
[12:55] <mernilio> ubottu: thanks
[12:55] <hackeron_> jrib: oooh, I did dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libncursesw5_5.9-10ubuntu4_amd64.deb -- now apt-get dist-upgrade is going further
[12:56] <ggherdov> Hi all. I just updated from 12.04 to 12.10. It asked me to replace the apache2.conf file, I said no since I customized it and had no backup. Now the old config file isn't recognized by apache2 anymore. How to let apt do the job again and replace the apache2 config file with a good one ?
[12:58] <jrib> ggherdov: it shouldn't be the case that your files is no longer recognized
[12:59] <hackeron_> jrib: I did a few dpkg -i /path-to-new-pkg.deb and now apt-get dist-upgrade is moving along :D
[12:59] <jrib> hackeron_: ok
[13:00] <hackeron_> jrib: only thing that was broken is python and perl, rest seems ok
[13:00] <ggherdov> jrib: it goes like this: the old config (apache2.conf) loaded another config (httpd.conf). no httpd.conf disappeared, and apache2.conf gives then an error. I'd like apt to fix this mess. is it possble?
[13:00] <ggherdov> now*
[13:00] <jrib> ggherdov: well don't you care about your configuration?  You'll just be left with a default configuration
[13:01] <ggherdov> jrib: I do. I took now a backup, and will try to restore it once , at least, " service apache2 start " executes fine. Now I am not even there.
[13:02] <jrib> ggherdov: you can 1) find the package that gives apache2.conf (dpkg -S /etc/apache/apache2.conf), then 2) rename apache2.conf, then 3) reinstall the package in (1) but pass --force-confmiss
[13:02] <jrib> to dpkg
[13:03] <ggherdov> jrib: ok trying that.
[13:04] <lewis1711> I can no longer become root or use sudo. I messed something up by adding myself to the audio group. what should I do?
[13:05] <jrib> lewis1711: what exactly did you do that messed something up?
[13:05] <lewis1711> jrib: probably this " sudo usermod -G audio lewis" or this " sudo adduser lewis audio"
[13:05] <lewis1711> that's all i can think of
[13:06] <X-tonic> Is the server at http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases//raring/ down?
[13:06] <jrib> lewis1711: yes, the first one changes your group list (i.e. ALL groups you belong to) to just the audio group.  Reboot in recovery mode and add yourself back to the sudo group (and whatever other groups you want)
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !torrent|X-tonic,
[13:07] <lewis1711> oh gof
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !torrent use torrents ... bandwith is limited via direct download
[13:07] <lewis1711> I am high and want to make music. but ok I'll try
[13:07] <lewis1711> thanks
[13:07] <jrib> ggherdov: by they way, did you check that /etc/apache2 didn't have some apache2.conf.dist-file in it?
[13:09] <X-tonic> I understand that torrents are better and will help manage server loads. But in my university, firewalls block torrent trackers. :(
[13:09] <cfhowlett> X-tonic, oh, that does indeed bite
[13:10] <anew> how can i check if a specific cron from a specific folder is currently running
[13:10] <jrib> anew: did you check the log I told you about before?
[13:10] <anew> jrib that log is so big ....
[13:11] <jrib> anew: use the search function in your editor
[13:11] <anew> there's hundreds of instances of cron in there
[13:11] <anew> i need to check if it is running in this exact moment
[13:11] <anew> * a specific one
[13:11] <jrib> anew: don't you also know the time and command you are looknig for?
[13:11] <anew> hmmm command yes let me see
[13:12] <cfhowlett> X-tonic, but I bet your uni's computer science department or students have a workaround :)
[13:13] <krypto> on my terminal i was running apt-get install and and i accidentally closed that terminal,now i have new terminal how can i see the progress of apt-get install,i can see the process id from ps.
[13:13] <anew> seems like it is running in this log, but it is not actually doing anything, what does this line mean: Apr 25 13:11:57 raspberrypi /USR/SBIN/CRON[6789]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[13:13] <gnuskool> krypto:  :)
[13:13] <Prism> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u3ckr/
[13:14] <betrayd> anew without a mail transport agent it doesn't know how to mail u the results
[13:14] <anew> hmmm
[13:14] <jrib> anew: your command is "info"?
[13:14] <jrib> anew: ah no, don't you get lines with CMD?
[13:14] <anew> jrib no, this is the line after the actual command
[13:15] <anew> where would an error be ?
[13:15] <ggherdov> jrib: yes, I have a apache2.conf.dpkg-dist -- and it works. Is it some sort of default config file ?
[13:15] <anew> in syslog also ?
[13:15] <jrib> anew: if you have an MTA, then you get mailed the output of your command (that's what that line is referring to)
[13:15] <Birdo> Hey everyone, was here last night with this question. Anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to look at my hardware and update it's 3d drivers? I'm booting for an external HD so I think when I switched from a computer to a laptop Ubuntu continued continued to use the desktop's drivers?
[13:15] <jrib> ggherdov: when you choose to keep the old configuration, dpkg saves the new one for you in that file.  I forgot about this when I first answered your question
[13:15] <Birdo> Or does anyone know if Ubuntu would automatically pick that up and use the right drivers?
[13:15] <Kottizen> Is there any torrent file available for 13.04, x86_64?
[13:15] <ggherdov> jrib: amazing! thanks a lot for this hint
[13:16] <jrib> !torrent | Kottizen
[13:16] <jrib> !torrents | Kottizen
[13:16] <Kottizen> Thanks jrib!
[13:16] <luv> ChrisTownsend: regarding the issue with filing a bug in launchpad against ubuntu - what os/browser are you trying it in?
[13:16] <krypto> gnuskool: how can i get access to that,do u have any idea?
[13:17] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Hi:)  I'm using 13.04 w/ Firefox.  Do you happen to be logged in to Launchpad?
[13:17] <Moopz> I have a question regarding my wireless. I have a Centrino Advanced-N 6230 and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.
[13:18] <luv> ChrisTownsend: yes, Im logged in
[13:18] <AbcAbc> is there a good, lightweight linux email client ? I used sylpheed, but it stores my account data unencrypted in a text file, this makes me consirned
[13:18] <mzaza> I want to show battery percentage in the pannel, not remaning time. Is that possible?
[13:19] <ChrisTownsend> luv: This is very strange.  Try this direct link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[13:19] <luv> ChrisTownsend: yes, that redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:19] <luv> ChrisTownsend: 13.04, firefox
[13:19] <shagoyjo> Salutations! I have a network adapter with "post-up ip addr add insert.ip.addr.here\24 broadcast insert.subnet.broadcast.here" at then end of it's block in /etc/network/interfaces, but when I ping insert.ip.addr.here, I get timeouts. Any advice?
[13:20] <gnuskool> krypto: apt-get check this will check to see if indeed it installed all dependencies from your last attempt
[13:21] <krypto> gnuskool: how can i bring the same thing  to fg?
[13:21] <ChrisTownsend> luv: What is your Launchpad id?  Perhaps this is a permissions thing.
[13:21] <gnuskool> krypto: fg?
[13:21] <krypto> foreground
[13:21] <ChrisTownsend> luv: I'm not very familiar with that though, so I would need to ask if that is really the case.
[13:22] <luv> ChrisTownsend: my launchpad id is lukas-vacek
[13:22] <ubu> so currently iOS 6+ you can't sync music from within ubuntu can you?
[13:22] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Ok, hang on for a bit while I look into this.
[13:22] <gnuskool> krypto: not sure you can if the terminal has closed, but apt will have a list of files, or dependencies, that need to be met if the app installed completely - if not it will ask to get them for you
[13:24] <Moopz> I have a question regarding my wireless. I have a Centrino Advanced-N 6230 and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.,,
[13:24] <iDrofox> hello, i want to upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04 how i do it ?
[13:24] <DJones> !upgrade | iDrofox
[13:25] <gnuskool> iDrofox: i usually save my home partition and just reinstall the entire app for a major upgrade
[13:25] <DJones> iDrofox: The 2nd link from ubottu has the upgrade instructions
[13:26] <iDrofox> ok thanks
[13:26] <shagoyjo> If there is no advice to be had on my ip addr add question, can somebody recommend a more targeted channel?
[13:26] <preyalone> Where can I find a list of changes / new features in Raring Ringtail?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/ubuntu-1304-raring-ringtail-final-beta.html
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: there are LOTS of pages on this.....
[13:27] <DJones> preyalone: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[13:27] <gnuskool> krypto, no luck?
[13:27] <iDrofox> when i search for "update manager" it show "software  updater" ?
[13:28] <gnuskool> krypto: you could also dpkg -s then the name of the package
[13:28] <p0wn3d> what is the best way to upgrade to 13.04 from 12.04?  Backup home, upgrade then restore? Does anyone have a cloud solution that is seemless?
[13:28] <preyalone> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[13:28] <iDrofox> p0wn3d: i am doing same xd!
[13:28] <krypto> gnuskool: tried apt-get check pakagename but it didnt show anything so killed that process and started again :)
[13:29] <vnc786> i have added passwd command  in a file and saved it as a script but when i click on the script it ask me for three option "Run in terminal" "Display" "Cancel" "Run"
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: simple websearch...nothing fancy
[13:29] <iDrofox> p0wn3d: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade ?
[13:29] <jrib> p0wn3d: your other alternative is to upgrade to 12.10 and then 13.04
[13:29] <vnc786> how can i make it always "Run in terminal"  ???
[13:29] <gnuskool> krypto: after you're done run dpkg -s on it and it will verify the installation
[13:29] <jrib> vnc786: you can probably create a .desktop file for it
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> p0wn3d: you do realise raring is only 9 months supported, Quantal will be EOL after Raring. Why would you want to leave LTS with 5 years support....
[13:30] <vari> hello! so i installed 13.04 clean install, and my computer does not boot anymore. It just stays at black screen when the OS should start loading. Any ideas_
[13:30] <preyalone> Any word on which WiFi cards Raring Ringtail supports? Will convertibles like ThinkPad Yoga be able to go online out of the box?
[13:30] <krypto> thanks gnuskool :)
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|vari
[13:30] <Marlinc> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sync/+question/227438
[13:31] <vari> i have a radeon 7950, one would think this would work out of the box...
[13:31] <rocio> holaaa
[13:31] <Birdo> Do I have to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 to upgrade to 13.04? I'm doing sudo do-release-upgrade –d, and I'm downloading right now what I think is 12.10?
[13:31] <DJones> Birdo: Yes you do
[13:31] <Birdo> DJones: thank you.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> vari, as always, hardware support from OEM is ... uncertain
[13:31] <p0wn3d> ActionParsnip: Do improvements from 13.04 ever trickle down to 12.04 or do we have to wait for the next LTS release
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Birdo, or you could clean install 13.04
[13:32] <Guest58678> eyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[13:32] <Birdo> cfhowlett: And lose all my files?
[13:32] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone have issues installing 13.04?
[13:32] <SuperDefenderX> Namely driver issues?
[13:32] <k1l_> !details | SuperDefenderX
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Birdo, if you have a dedicated /home, your files will be safe
[13:33] <Birdo> cfhowlett: I do. Is there any benefit to a clean install?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> p0wn3d: depends on stability etc
[13:33] <Moopz> I have a Centrino Advanced-N 6230 and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network, so it seems it doesn't actually create any ad-hoc. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.,,
[13:33] <vnc786> jrib: thanks for that ..for temporary i want to keep on users Desktop so they can can click on that add change the passwd...i know its not a big deal to click on run on a terminal but i am just looking for option
[13:33] <gnuskool> Birdo,  backup your home directory and start on a clean slate, there are many tuts online covering this as it is a common scenario
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Birdo, well, direct upgrade without incremental steps for one.  plus formatting the /root filesystem is like a good dental cleaning... not necessarily something you want to do daily, but definitely love the benefits
[13:35] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Hi, I'm back.
[13:36] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Did you say you wanted to report a bug against the signon package?
[13:36] <cebor> somebody just on 13.04?  is this normal: when i move a window with "Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Arrow", there are ugly lines while switching desktop..
[13:36] <Birdo> cfhowlett: Alright, I will try it out. Thanks for the help and tip.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Birdo, best of luck.
[13:37] <nandersson> Hi, for the record. Unity in Ubuntu 13.04 is based on Qt right and not Gtk?
[13:39] <k1l_> nandersson: unity next will be based on qt
[13:39] <nandersson> k1l_, when will that be? 13.10 then?
[13:40] <k1l_> the target is 14.04
[13:40] <k1l_> i dont know if it will be in 13.01 for testing purposes
[13:40] <k1l_> *13.10
[13:40] <gnuskool> poor gnome
[13:40] <nandersson> yeah, should be as 14.04 will be lts.
[13:41] <Guest70796> did we get gnome with 13.04?
[13:41] <jiltdil> Is 13.04 working fine
[13:41] <k1l_> Avasz: there was always gnome3 available in ubuntu
[13:42] <Avasz> k1l_, i mean as default DE. There were news about it floating around
[13:42] <k1l_> Avasz: ubuntu is sticking to unity as default
[13:42] <Avasz> fine then.
[13:42] <k1l_> but there is some gnome ubuntu remix with gnome3 as default.
[13:43] <SuperLag> Can you guys recommend any cool 3rd-party apps that provide .debs for Ubuntu? I've been surprised by some of the devs/companies who have Linux versions of stuff, that's just not in the repos. I've got Skype,Teamviewer,Adobe Reader,Scrivener... so far.
[13:43] <Izak> How can I download cmake ?
[13:43] <Avasz> k1l_, is it official?
[13:43] <Avasz> this one right? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[13:43] <shagoyjo> I have an aliased network interface eth1 and eth1:0 with different ip's but when I ping eth1:0 I get naught but timeouts (eth1 replies as normal)
[13:43] <Moopz> I have a intel wireless card and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network, so it seems it doesn't actually create any ad-hoc. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.,,
[13:44] <k1l_> Avasz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/its-official-ubuntu-gnome-remix-joins-the-ubuntu-family
[13:44] <shagoyjo> both interfaces ifup properly. Any advice?
[13:44] <Avasz> k1l_, ok. thanks
[13:45] <shagoyjo> fyi, matching subnet masks, matching broadcasts, ip addr's off by one. This is about as simple as the setup can get. What am I missing
[13:45] <vari> Hello! I tried to install 13.04 but my computer does not boot anymore. It just stays at blinking cursor. I don\t think it is nomodeset etc. since i am curently running it from usb and it works fine.
[13:45] <nandersson> SuperLag, Google Earth, UltraEdit
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> p0wn3d  if you want the latest features, use 13.04, it's up to you to decide if you like the improvements - many 13.04 reviews to be found
[13:46] <jmmL> hi! I'm having some trouble with unity on 13.04
[13:46] <jmmL> It won't load
[13:46] <jiltdil> Whats new in 13.04, any docs available
[13:47] <DJones> !notes | jiltdil
[13:47] <betrayd>  shagoyjo how do you ping the one with :0 in the name, paste your command here
[13:47] <SuperDefenderX> USB Creator keeps crashing trying to burn the 13.04 iso.
[13:47] <carif> when I do 'update-manager -d', the notification I see says raring is still alpha. is raring not yet generally available?
[13:47] <jiltdil> DJones, Thanks
[13:47] <shagoyjo> ping insert.ip.of.eth1:0
[13:47] <mzaza> Is it possible to direct output to copy from terminal so I can paste it instead of marking with mouse? For example cat filetobecopied.c >>
[13:48] <shagoyjo> betrayd: ping insert.ip.of.eth1:0 , sorry :-)
[13:48] <betrayd> you might have to escape the colon in some cases in cli shagoyjo
[13:48] <Aww> Can I just update unity without upgrading to 13.04?
[13:48] <rickborn> carif: Mine said that this morning too but on a second machine I tried just now it was the 'released' release notes. I think it is just a messed up message, the release is out
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Aww, enable backports, then apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade and MAYBE ...
[13:49] <betrayd> shagoyjo:  \: sometimes works depending on the command
[13:49] <SuperLag> nandersson: I forgot about UltraEdit. Nice one.
[13:49] <carif> rickborn, ty
[13:49] <mzaza> shagoyjo: Could you help me with a little thing here :) ?
[13:49] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I'm not ACTUALLY using a colon. I just didn't paste my server's external ip into public chat. I'm using the external ip that I've configured on the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:49] <b2coutts> I have a desktop without a keyboard or monitor, and I want to get a file from it. Is there a reasonably easy way to configure a Live CD to run sshd on boot, with a known hostname and some user I can ssh as?
[13:49] <shagoyjo> mzaza: what's up? maybe maybe no
[13:50] <mzaza> shagoyjo: Is it possible to direct output to copy from terminal so I can paste it instead of marking with mouse? For example cat filetobecopied.c >>
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !patience | mzaza
[13:52] <b2coutts> mzaza: I think xclip is what you're looking for
[13:52] <mzaza> MonkeyDust: Sorry, I just think sometimes people are busy with other and my message my get lost unnoticed.
[13:52] <betrayd> shagoyjo: if it's thru a router your 'external' might not even be visible to the outside world
[13:52] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I have two IP's both of which are externally accessible
[13:52] <mzaza> b2coutts: Thanks :) I'm installing it
[13:52] <tr57> Hi folks
[13:53] <betrayd> shagoyjo: even the eth:0
[13:53] <shagoyjo> betrayd: .39 and .40 on the same subnet. I can ping one but not the other, .39 is eth1 and .40 is eth1:0
[13:53] <tr57> I have a laptop connected to an LCD monitor via a VGA cable   but its not been picked up
[13:54] <tr57> even arandr dosent see it
[13:54] <aneks> I just upgraded to 13.04 and the only way my monitor works is via an analog cable, as soon as I plug in the HDMI cable screen goes blank
[13:55] <betrayd> tr57 does your laptop have fn keys, or enable the 2nd display at BIOS
[13:55] <vari> so do you have any ideas where to start the troubleshooting_
[13:55] <shagoyjo> betrayd: eth0 is on my internal network, a different subnet (and NIC). eth1 and eth1:0 are the same nic, with two different IPs
[13:56] <vari> i find it VERY weird that booting from live usb works perfectly but booting the installed OS just leaves cursor blinking
[13:56] <tr57> betrayd,  as in F1 F2 etc   (sorry if thats silly!)
[13:56] <sybian> gai fnokin seed
[13:56] <crash_cy> I'm having trouble with my keyboard in Ubuntu 12.10.  About a week ago, I swapped the escape and caps lock keys.  It seemed to work fine, until a couple days ago, when they would sometimes revert for a moment (hitting caps lock would work as caps lock, Esc as escape).  Now the -_ button (next to the 0) has stopped working.  I've tried restoring default keyboard settings, but the -_ still doesn't work and the Esc doesn't work at all no
[13:56] <Artorias> try before booting nomodeset
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | vari
[13:56] <hackeron_> how would I temporarily disable CPU throttling? - I want to run CPU at max speed for a benchmark
[13:56] <betrayd> tn57 maybe with different colored icons on them if its not that new
[13:57] <vari> how would nomodeset not be required in live usb but in normal boot|
[13:57] <tr57> betrayd,  just found it! Fn key
[13:57] <adamk> vari: Sounds more to me like the bootloader didn't get installed properly than anything with the graphics driver, IMO.
[13:57] <Artorias> i don't know GPU driver issue
[13:57] <vari> so i thought also
[13:57] <jonas___> oi
[13:57] <jonas___> i canot boot ubuntu raring into a live seesion , says busybox
[13:57] <vari> but i installed a second time and chose manual partitioning and made sure it had the right disk as bootloader install
[13:58] <DrGrov> Okay. I figured out that all the fans are running efficiently. But still I get the red light.
[13:58] <tr57> betrayd, do I reboot and keep pressing the Fn key?
[13:58] <mzaza> b2coutts: It's not working, I tried one of the examples in the man page. uptime | xclip and opened the browser and tried to past what I should have copied but it's not pasting the output of the uptime.
[13:58] <Artorias> ok press Ctrl + Alt + F1
[13:58] <DrGrov> The problem is like this:
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> vari  then try the nomodeset trick
[13:58] <betrayd> tr57: at boot time, the special colored keys work
[13:58] <Artorias> then type (sudo apt-get install nvidia-current) if you have nVidia
[13:58] <vari> i tried but i cannot run update/grub from live usb_
[13:58] <jonas___> i canot boot ubuntu raring into a live seesion , says busybox
[13:58] <betrayd> tr57: press the key combo to enable 2nd/ext display
[13:58] <jonas___> any one ?
[13:59] <tr57> betrayd, OK will reboot now and press the Fn key
[13:59] <vari> ubuntu@ubuntu:/var/log$ sudo update-grub /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[13:59] <DrGrov> I have cleaned my computer, it is just a red light flashing and nothing happens. I read from here http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=459226&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c00300335 that the problem is a blocking fan or similar. It is the first option on that list. But I do not know how to proceed. How can I reset the motherboard since all fans are working as intended?
[13:59] <Artorias> no, after you install it, boot the OS then keep press the Ctrl+Alt+F1 before the Xorg start
[14:00] <jony> how can I save installed software (ex. Krusader) to maintain it's settings to use it in a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[14:00] <vari> currently i am re/downloading the iso since i really cannot come up with anything else.
[14:01] <jonas___> well
[14:01] <olmari> jony: well I have done this type of stuff so taht I have setup /home to be on separate partition, and use it as /home with new isntall also... tough yet another thing how to make it so on system that is not already
[14:01] <jonas___> busybox shell any one  ?
[14:01] <Artorias> np
[14:01] <minas> i saw a post today that amd catalyst 13.4 was released. When I checked mine, it was 12.9 - I am using the latest amd driver from the repositories. Why are the repositories so outdated? Should I install the 13.4 one?
[14:01] <hackeron_> this did the trick :) < ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/ | grep cpu[0-9] | while read line; do echo $(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq) > /sys/devices/system/cpu/$line/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq; done
[14:01] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I've also tried doing this with ip addr add instead of creating an alias in /etc/network/interfaces, with the same result
[14:02] <jony> olmari, I have too the second partition in /home
[14:02] <betrayd> shagoyjo: tried pinging their hostnames, who's directing traffic there
[14:02] <sw0rdfish> hey, can I sync folders from my win8 and ubuntu machine on Ubuntu One?
[14:02] <tryit593> me
[14:02] <Maiks> i've just installed 13.04. What is better with amd graphics? free or private drivers? I have an AMD-350 and get errors starting ubuntu with both. Also suspending doesn't work with eeepcs?
[14:02] <tryit593> hi jony___
[14:02] <tryit593> hi jonas___*
[14:02] <jony> olmari, if I keep /home, won't be conflicts?
[14:02] <jonas___> hey
[14:02] <aneks> does anyone know why my monitor won't work via HDMI after upgrading to 13.04?
[14:02] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I'm pinging them direct by IP, as I said earlier, no hostnames. I don't want to tinker with that layer yet.
[14:03] <theadmin> Okay, Raring has been released. The support has been cut down to just 9 months. Has a rolling-release branch been implemented? Or will the updates work just like before?
[14:03] <olmari> jony: well it depends.. can but usually those are mild or nonexistant
[14:03] <jonas___> olha outro
[14:03] <tr57> betrayd, my F8 key has crt/lcd   on it     so I press Fn + F8  at boot time?
[14:03] <olmari> jony: as generally software settings are in ~/.software
[14:03] <jonas___> i have a small penis
[14:03] <tryit593> LOOOOOOOOOOOL
[14:03] <jonas___> lollol
[14:03] <theadmin> !ot
[14:03] <olmari> jony: you could wanna delete something that you definately know you don't want to save
[14:04] <jony> olmari, ty
[14:04] <jonas___> theadmin
[14:04] <jonas___> i cant boot liveusb
[14:04] <jonas___> says busybox
[14:04] <drehdz> so if i was using the raring beta, is there anything I need to do with the release?
[14:04] <theadmin> drehdz: Nah, just upgrade all the packages and you'll be on the "released" version
[14:05] <drehdz> thank you theadmin, thats what i thought
[14:05] <Grape_hunter> a question! CAn I install 13.04 using Wubi, on Windows 7.
[14:05] <tr57> betrayd, that sort of worked!   but now the LCD says "Unsupported video format"  and I just have the laptop screen
[14:05] <betrayd> tr57 if its the only one, there are 3 settings, LCD only, LCD+VGA, VGA only so try it (press twice?) so you can see boot messages on both.
[14:06] <tr57> betrayd, right  thanks   will try again
[14:06] <betrayd> tr57 the BIOS may have diagnostics to show/go thru all resolutions
[14:07] <betrayd> pick one that the TV can do as well tr57
[14:07] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Sure
[14:07] <betrayd> tr57 then when you get both arandr can be made to work
[14:07] <theadmin> Or... hm...
[14:07] <Grape_hunter> i read that wubi support was being dropped in 13.04, but does that mean i can't install it anymore.. with the bootloader screw up somehow D:
[14:07] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Yeah, wubi was dropped, just found out. Now that's surpising.
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> yes.. because of windows 8
[14:08] <theadmin> Oh well it's all for the better
[14:08] <SuperLag> theadmin: what makes you say that?
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> I hate having to partiiton the drive :<
[14:08] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Virtualbox (or any other kind of VM) is an option
[14:08] <SuperLag> Grape_hunter: virtualization?
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> naaaaa :<
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> Performance :D
[14:08] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Also, with Ubuntu partitioning is as simple as clicking "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"
[14:09] <genii-around> tr57: ctrl-alt-<numpad + or ->   will cycle through available resolutions
[14:09] <theadmin> SuperLag: Say what?
[14:09] <Grape_hunter> grrr
[14:09] <SuperLag> Grape_hunter: why not? what kind of hardware are you running on? Modern hardware is enough you can barely tell an OS is running in a VM if you have enough resources for it.
[14:09] <Grape_hunter> Wubi was convinient.
[14:09] <SuperLag> 07:08 < theadmin> Oh well it's all for the better
[14:09] <crash_cy> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my keyboard?  Esc and -_ keys are not working
[14:10] <theadmin> SuperLag: Linux on NTFS is... weird. I mean, fragmentation causes slowdowns, makes people think Ubuntu is at fault and is slow, turns them away from Ubuntu in the end
[14:10] <tr57> betrayd, BIOS dosent have any resolution options
[14:10] <SuperLag> theadmin: good point
[14:11] <shagoyjo> my /etc/network/interfaces eth1 block has "up ip addr add 10.11.12.40/24 brd 10.11.12.255 dev eth1 label eth1:0" at the end, and when I ifup I can see it in ifconfig, but 10.11.12.40 doesn't respond to ping. Any help?
[14:11] <cholby> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu once.
[14:11] <cholby> he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[14:12] <cholby> :D
[14:12] <Aww> Wut.
[14:12] <Artorias> dafuq did i just read?
[14:16] <AlecTaylor> hi
[14:16] <AlecTaylor> How do I successfully increase the size of my extended partition, e.g.: using GParted? - http://askubuntu.com/q/285359
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: use ubuntu liveCD. be sure your backups are up to date first
[14:17] <tr57> betrayd, so I can now see the grub menu on the  lcd monitor   can I pass anything to it to keep it on the lcd?
[14:18] <RedObsidian> hmm I tried getting the Chrome installed and it only downloads the amd compatible verion (from the chrome d/l page) / I'm using virtual box and ubuntu 13.04 - any ideas?
[14:18] <compdoc> the Chrome browser?
[14:19] <AlecTaylor> ActionParsnip: That's what I'm on; but I received an error
[14:19] <compdoc> oh, the os
[14:19] <RedObsidian> compdoc: yes
[14:19] <RedObsidian> browser
[14:20] <compdoc> RedObsidian, what happens when you try to install it?
[14:20] <RedObsidian> it tells me the incompatible cpu
[14:21] <shagoyjo> my /etc/network/interfaces eth1 block has "up ip addr add 10.11.12.40/24 brd 10.11.12.255 dev eth1 label eth1:0" at the end, and when I ifup I can see it in ifconfig, but 10.11.12.40 doesn't respond to ping. Any help?
[14:21] <stat_vi> RedObsidian: why not install chromium-browser from the repositories?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> !info chromium-browser
[14:22] <RedObsidian> does it work as well as Chrome? Sorry if silly question.
[14:22] <vari> http://www.zdnet.com/my-experiments-with-installing-ubuntu-13-04-pre-release-with-uefi-boot_p13-7000014233/#photo
[14:22] <vari> is he correct_
[14:22] <vari> he says it is a uefi secure boot problem i run into_
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> RedObsidian  chrome is based on chromium
[14:22] <vari> Summary: The Live image is Secure Boot compatible, but the installed system is not?
[14:22] <RedObsidian> so why have two versions?
[14:23] <theadmin> RedObsidian: Chrome comes with Flash and a built-in PDF reader, and is closed-source
[14:23] <theadmin> RedObsidian: Chromium on the other hand doesn't come with those, but is fully open.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> RedObsidian  https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[14:24] <RedObsidian> okay will check out the link. Thanks for the info! :)
[14:26] <celso> hi all! is ubuntu 13.04 already out?
[14:27] <shagoyjo> Can anybody help me figure out why my second IP doesn't respond to ping? http://pastebin.com/svwwdcTH
[14:27] <tr57> well I put this in grub command line    vga=788   and I saw a bit of the boot info  but the lcd is now blank!
[14:28] <celso> i am sorry to bothering with this but i am not sure if the website leads me to a test version or a defenitive 13.04....  sorry for my ignorance...
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> 1Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> 2Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> 3Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> 4Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:28] <FloodBot1> MuslimGirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> 5Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:28] <MuslimGirl> 2Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:29] <MuslimGirl> 3Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:29] <MuslimGirl> 4Ever since my boyfriend installed Ubuntu, he won't stop "playing the bongos" on my ass.  :-(
[14:29] <FloodBot1> MuslimGirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:29] <celso> twtf?
[14:29] <gosi> i have to say, FloodBot1 is very kind
[14:29] <celso> true
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> probably someone who wants to give muslims a bad name
[14:30] <stat_vi> celso: dunno which website you use, but raring is officially out.
[14:30] <Aww> Um.
[14:30] <DrGrov> Anyone good with helping with a computer stuck at startup, nothing but a red led turned on but all fans are working without issues?
[14:31] <celso> the oficial one-  ubuntu.com
[14:31] <shagoyjo> DrGrov: if you can't get to a bios screen you have other issues :-( sorry
[14:31] <tr57> if anyones interested    inside aranda  I can see LVDS-1 is lit up but VGA-1 is greyed out
[14:31] <celso> but stat_vi thanks! now i am sure that i can download it!
[14:32] <celso> DrGrov, do you have hybrid graphics?
[14:32] <tadcrazio> hey guys, running Ubuntu 12.10 32bit and when I plug my phone (nexus4) into it it doesn't show up. If i make it a "camera" it does. How do I get it to show up as a media device
[14:35] <MuslimGirl> CHOLBY RULES!
[14:35]  * MuslimGirl slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[14:35] <FloodBot1> MuslimGirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:35] <MuslimGirl> CHOLBY RULES!
[14:35]  * cholby slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[14:35] <cholby> CHOLBY RULES!
[14:35]  * cholby slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[14:35] <cholby> CHOLBY RULES!
[14:35] <FloodBot1> cholby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:36]  * cholbyrules slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[14:36] <cholbyrules> CHOLBY RULES!
[14:36]  * cholbyrules slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[14:36] <cholbyrules> CHOLBY RULES!
[14:36] <FloodBot1> cholbyrules: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:36] <moppers> wow, something has gone wrong with my upgrade to ubuntu raring
[14:36] <moppers> sorry wrong channel
[14:36] <celso> what?
[14:36] <belgianguy> how do I now execute a .sh file from within Nautilus?
[14:36] <theadmin> belgianguy: Make it executable and doubleclick.
[14:36] <belak> I feel like I may be missing something... Was the shortcut for super to open the unity menu removed?
[14:36] <moppers> belgianguy, if you right click it , you can make it executable
[14:37] <belak> It only seems to work sometime
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  try right click, run in terminal
[14:37] <celso> i guess not...  can you use it?
[14:37] <celso> DrGrov, do you have hybrid graphics?
[14:38] <tr57> celso, whats "hybrid graphics"?
[14:38] <belgianguy> hmm, I went to Properties and then Permissions
[14:38] <celso> if your computer have 2 graphics card? can you post the specs of your pc?
[14:38] <belgianguy> and I set it to executable
[14:38] <belgianguy> but it still opens in gedit
[14:39] <bkfitz> Is there a separate room for linux mint or can i ask questions here
[14:40] <Captain_Proton> bkfitz: I would ask there as there many flavours of Mint
[14:40] <iksworbeZ> hi everyone
[14:40] <iksworbeZ> i have a question for the community
[14:41] <iksworbeZ> should i beinstalling ubuntu 13/094 on an ssd?
[14:41] <iksworbeZ> or on my hdd?
[14:41] <mayrk> would anyone please assist me in the instalation of ubuntu 12.04 on fakeraid?
[14:42] <llutz> iksworbeZ: ssd for performance
[14:42] <celso> iksworbeZ if i could choose, it would be on ssd.
[14:42] <belgianguy> started it through the terminal, bit odd though
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> iksworbeZ: I would use SSD for system and platter HDD for user data as it changes much more
[14:43] <belgianguy> I didn't have a right click option 'open with terminal'
[14:43] <Captain_Proton> iksworbeZ: I would install base on ssd and change my home to harddrive as that where video and images will be store
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> iksworbeZ: also put swap and /var on the platter based drive too
[14:43] <belgianguy> (it used to propose 'Open/Execute/Cancel'
[14:44] <celso> actually, i would rather disable swap and install zram. more usefull.
[14:45] <pianogmx> hey has anyone reported problems upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 ?
[14:45]  * pianogmx wants to make sure before i do inplace upgrade
[14:45] <maykr_> sorry i got disconnected...would anyone please assist me installing ubuntu 12.04 on fakeraid?
[14:47] <Andy__> Hi guys, I'm having an issue booting 13.04. I did a search on the forum but nothing popped up. Basically it installs fine but upon a reboot into the installation I get a kernel panic: not syncing: Attempted to kill exitcode=0x00000009 error
[14:49] <cebor> somebody just on 13.04?  is this normal: when i move a window with "Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Arrow", there are ugly lines while switching desktop..
[14:49] <LemensTS> how can i just allow an ssh user to use 'vi, cp, mkdir, rm' commands and nothing else?
[14:49] <loreste> good morning guys
[14:49] <Akiva-Mobile> 13.04 is out!!!!
[14:49] <Akiva-Mobile> :D
[14:49] <loreste> How are you doing today
[14:49] <Akiva-Mobile> loreste: good morning
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Mobile  5pm here
[14:49] <maykr_> would anyone please assist me installing ubuntu 12.04 on fakeraid?
[14:50] <lmat> I'm having some trouble with my microphone. It's built-in to my Dell Precision laptop.
[14:50] <lmat> Audacity seems to have no problem,
[14:50] <cebor> LemensTS: try rssh, but i think u need to setup a chroot dir
[14:50] <lmat> But Gnome sound recorder is having difficulty.
[14:50] <lmat> *really* what I want is for cisco to pick up mine audio device.
[14:50] <Aww> Anyone moved from 12.04 -> 13.04 yet?
[14:50] <loreste> I am trying to tar a file  /mnt/ftp
[14:50] <loreste> it has a tone of subfolders
[14:50] <loreste> I want to get them all with the exception of a few
[14:51] <lmat> I figured I'd work on gnome sound recorder first, hoping that whatever works for gnome sound recorder would work for cisco.
[14:51] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: sure
[14:51] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: question one; how big is your array?
[14:51] <maykr_> Akiva-Mobile: care to query?
[14:51] <loreste> I used this command
[14:51] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: Query?
[14:51] <loreste> gtar -pczf ftpbackup.tar.gz /mnt/ftp/*/ --exclude={/mnt/ftp/*/_ben,/mnt/ftp/*/export/xslt}
[14:52] <Akiva-Mobile> second
[14:52] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: What is your array looking like?
[14:52] <loreste> it is exluding the directory _ben all together
[14:53] <iksworbeZ> thanks!
[14:54] <ryanlee> Hey everyone, I built a new machine at home and am able to install Ubuntu 12.04 on it, but when I attempt to install 12.10/13.04 I get dropped into busybox.
[14:54] <ryanlee> Same if I try to upgrade from 12.04.
[14:54] <maykr__> wow...i got disconnected again
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> lmat  same here, cheese records sound, but sound recorder does not
[14:54] <ryanlee> Has anyone experienced this problem before?
[14:54] <maykr__> Akiva-Mobile: something along the lines of /dev/mapper/isw_etc..etc...
[14:55] <Akiva-Mobile> sec
[14:55] <lmat> MonkeyDust: Well freaking crap
[14:55] <maykr__> those are 2 500gb hard disks
[14:55] <lmat> MonkeyDust: You don't happen to use cisco receiver, eh?
[14:56] <luc4> Hi! Is it possible to upgrade to 13.04 from the command line? I always find this only for ubuntu server.
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> luc4  try do-release-upgrade
[14:57] <luc4> MonkeyDust: thanks
[14:57] <sonOfRa> So, I just upgraded to 13.04, where did my workspaces go?
[14:57] <sonOfRa> After the reboot, the workspace switcher is gone, and I only have 1 workspace
[14:57] <ryanlee> sonOfRa, you have to enable them in settings
[14:58] <loreste> nevermind
[14:58] <loreste> got it
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  ctrl-alt arrow-left to switch, don't know how to bring back the icon, tho
[14:58] <loreste> thank you guys
[14:58] <sonOfRa> oh, there's the setting
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  arrow-right, even
[14:58] <sonOfRa> why is this disabled when upgrading, that's rather inconvenient?
[14:59] <kqwarkq> anyone know a torrent for final raring ringtail download?
[15:00] <Termana> What about the official torrent?
[15:00] <Termana> kqwarkq, http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[15:01] <jrib> !torrents | kqwarkq
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> kqwarkq  sroll down http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:02] <kqwarkq> i dont found the official torrent.
[15:02] <kqwarkq> where do you found it?
[15:02] <kqwarkq> thanks
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> kqwarkq  the link I just showed you, scroll down
[15:03] <kqwarkq> Thank you very much.
[15:03] <ThePendulum> Is it possible, and if so, risky to update U12.04 to 13.04?
[15:03] <mzaza> I was wondering why is Ubuntu with Unity slow, it's even slower than windows 8
[15:03] <ThePendulum> As in, keep everything
[15:04] <samijam> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity and it is fast
[15:04] <ThePendulum> mzaza: It's an interface that requires a 2006-era or newer computer to work smoothly, but it shouldn't be much slower than Windows 8, really. At least not for what I've experienced.
[15:04] <ThePendulum> mzaza: Not regarding Unity 2D, btw
[15:05] <ryanlee> In relation to my question earlier does anyone know of any issues installing Ubuntu 12.10/13.04 on machines sporting AMD A-series procs or onboard graphics (like Radeon series)?  Keep dropping me into buysbox, 12.04 installs okay though.
[15:05] <Guest22217> Screedo:
[15:06] <mzaza> ThePendulum: I never used Windows since XP, but since I got a new laptop I though why not install Windows for my family on my old laptop, which couldn't run Ubuntu 12.04 and had xUbuntu, and i installed Windows 8 it's working very smoothly. While situation used to be the opposite with previous version of Ubuntu and Windows, Ubuntu used to be lighter and smother.
[15:06] <Guest22217> oops
[15:06] <sumit123> hi guys i have ubuntu 12.04 and want to upgrade to 13.04
[15:06] <ThePendulum> mzaza: Did you install the correct graphics drivers for Ubuntu for your laptop? This sometimes makes a significant difference.
[15:06] <ThePendulum> sumit123: Same boat.
[15:06] <sumit123> can i do it without fresh install?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> sumit123  yes, I did
[15:07] <mzaza> ThePendulum: Yes, it was build in video card "Intel".
[15:07] <sumit123> MokeyDust. Thanks. How can you tell me
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> whenever I put in a dvd/cd it tried to mount it twice and says "error this device is already mounted"
[15:07] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: No issues whatsoever? Everything transfers well?
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> besides that it works fine
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> sumit123  in the menu, it's the first option, IIRC
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> any reason for this?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  no issues whatsoever
[15:08] <netherlands6> Hi please I would like to know if TLP really fix the fan bug? And how to install a tar.bz2 application please?
[15:08] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: How did you update?
[15:09] <Akiva-Mobile> did 13.04 live cd get raid support?
[15:09] <netherlands6> apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  with live usb stick, selected the first (or second?)  option : upgrade
[15:10] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Alright. Hopefully it's a little more stable than the betas. For some reason, it didn't feel well.
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  it was the beta
[15:10] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Hm. Well, I installed the betas a few days ago and I had multiple issues.
[15:10] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Are you running 13.04 right now?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  yes, since about 2 weeks or so
[15:11] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: What I really hate is that compizconfig no longer shows the "Window Rules" option, i.e. to make windows stick to your current workspace. Is it gone for you too?
[15:11] <ClientAlive> I'm having a problem with a thumb drive being write protected (so I can't run an app I need to on it). It was partitioned with fdisk, one large partition, type c (W95 FAT32 (LBA)) and was formatted with mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  dunno, i'm not 'très' into compiz
[15:12] <ClientAlive> is there some way to take away the write protection??
[15:12] <soulflare3> ClientAlive, is it an empty drive?
[15:12] <ClientAlive> soulflare3: yes
[15:13] <netherlands6> ya me too was running 13.04 since 2 weeks the only major issue I have see was the fan running to the max but I have install TLP hope it correct the bug
[15:14] <netherlands6> right fan 135000 RPM is it normal?
[15:15] <syntroPi> 135 kHz is unhearable :p
[15:15] <LoonyT> running ubuntu dual boot with windows 7, is there a way to be able to start this ubuntu installation withn a VM in windows and still keep it so I can boot to it native on the laptop as well
[15:15] <burg> hello. i just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 with do-release-upgrade and now ubuntu doesn't start anymore
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> burg  what happens when you try?
[15:17] <ubuntunewb> can anyone help me, something called confiz is taking 40-50% of my cpu
[15:17] <syntroPi> burg maybe you can spot the problem from tty1   crtl alt f1
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> burg: #ubuntu+1 for Raring support
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> oh its out
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> my mistake
[15:17] <ubuntunewb> Does anyone know why confiz takes up so much of my cpu? I have a decent cpu
[15:17] <burg> MonkeyDust: one moment, i will post a screenshot
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewb: what video chip do you use?
[15:17] <LucidGuy> LVM questions.  Need to grow a pv/lv on a logical partition (which is maxed out already).  I first want to grow the logical partition first.  The disk is a virtual and already grown.  Do I not then simply delete the logical partition, then extended partition.. then recreate them both using defaults?  Reboot.. and proceed to pvresize etc..And is it recommended I do this via a liveCD?
[15:18] <ubuntunewb> I use ati 7850
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewb: do you have a hybrid video chip?
[15:18] <ubuntunewb> radeon
[15:18] <burg> syntroPi: at what moment should i press ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[15:18] <ubuntunewb> my cpu is fx-8150
[15:19] <netherlands6> reinstall it with a dvd the cleanest way, it happen to me lot of time when I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and 11.04 to 11.10 and 12.04 to 10.10 so for the 13.04 I reinstall with the dvd and it work on the first start and restart
[15:19] <syntroPi> burg, ctrl alt f1 brings up the tty1 login prompt and gives you a terminal if that is even possible with your problem. maybe you can further investigate from there where it hangs?
[15:19] <ubuntunewb> I am just getting general lag when I move windows around and in my processes compiz is using up to 50% of my cpu so I imagine that is the problem.
[15:20] <moppers> is there a list of the kernel versions in each ubu release?
[15:21] <installgentoo> yea on the wiki
[15:21] <netherlands6> 13.04 using 3.8 familly
[15:21] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: uhhmmmm, that doesnt sound right
[15:21] <syntroPi> 3.8.0-19-generic
[15:21] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: compiz should work smoothly on a 2007 computer with integrated graphics
[15:21] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: you seem to have significantly better stats than that
[15:22] <burg> MonkeyDust: http://s7.postimg.org/karx7gewa/ubuntu.jpg - this is what it tells
[15:22] <ubuntunewb> what can I do then?
[15:22] <ubuntunewb> ya I have a good comp
[15:22] <moppers> if anyone can give me the kernel version for 12.04 and 12.10 i'd be grateful
[15:22] <ubuntunewb> First time ubuntu guy and I have a ssd 256 too so it should be fast
[15:22] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: do you have the proprietary drivers?
[15:22] <netherlands6> moppers 3.4 and 3.6
[15:22] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: oh yah, i have an intel ssd, it gives me a 7 second boot up
[15:23] <ubuntunewb> no
[15:23] <moppers> 12.04 has 3.2?
[15:23] <ubuntunewb> I have the drivers from here
[15:23] <PoolShark_> is there a good real-time versioning backup utility available for ubuntu in the repositories?
[15:23] <ubuntunewb> should I use the proprietary drivers?
[15:23] <K1lleD> 12.04.2 is with 3.6
[15:23] <K1lleD> 12.04.1 is with 3.2
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: tbh, i have learnt to hate both nvidia and ati, intel tends to give me the best performance
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> which is silly
[15:23] <moppers> 12.10 seems to say 3.5
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb yes
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> use the proprietary drivers
[15:23] <burg> http://s7.postimg.org/karx7gewa/ubuntu.jpg - so does anybody have any idea regarding this error?
[15:23] <minas> When I double click an executable file (script) I don't get promted to run it or display it. Why?
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> burg  never seen it, sorry
[15:24] <ubuntunewb> im using 10.04
[15:24] <ubuntunewb> 13.04
[15:25] <netherlands6> 8.04 and 10.04 where my favorites 13.04 look good also
[15:25] <syntroPi> minas, chmod +x
[15:25] <ubuntunewb> i just think this is supposed to run well on slow machines but I have a pretty decent rig
[15:25] <ubuntunewb> and I am having trouble so I figure I am doing somethign wrong
[15:25] <minas> syntroPi, it is +x
[15:25] <moppers> lucid is the last one that works on dinoputers with terribad VGA
[15:25] <count0nz__> !isitout
[15:25] <syntroPi> minas is it .sh extension?
[15:25] <minas> syntroPi, yes
[15:26] <count0nz__> wohoo
[15:26] <genii-around> minas: Possibly because it doesn't have a shebang either for the first line, which would tell it what to use to run
[15:26] <moppers> ubuntunewb, i would look in software updater, then the 4th tab shows drivers
[15:26] <minas> genii-around, it has: #!/bin/bash
[15:26] <ubuntunewb> I see the drivers
[15:26] <ubuntunewb> do I install both or the bottom one?
[15:26] <genii-around> minas: Ok, that part's fine then.
[15:26] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb sorry helping someone else, lets see
[15:26] <ubuntunewb> there are 2 propietary ones
[15:27] <netherlands6> please if no one know about TLP, How to install an tar.bz2 applications
[15:27] <minas> genii-around, in 12.10 it worked. I had the option to display it or run it. When I upgraded to 13.04 it displays it without asking me
[15:27] <chriscs62> I downloaded the .iso file of Ubuntu 13.04 some time ago and have been using zsync every week to update it. Can I now use it as an installation disc for 13.04 after burning it to DVD?
[15:27] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: here i'll pm you
[15:27] <moppers> ubuntunewb, i would use nivida 310
[15:28] <moppers> ubuntunewb, oh sorry you are an ATI machine, i dont know the ATI drives
[15:28] <spaceneedle> More Usb Bug info:  Another problem I'm experiencing involves my kingston(datatraveler) usb drive not being  mounted at all on my intel laptop. On my amd desktop it works fine.
[15:29] <LinDol> have a goodnight ^.~ -- i m in South korea
[15:29] <netherlands6> moppers do you know what package missing when I try to install AMD radeon 13.01 drivers
[15:30] <syntroPi> minas, i think this is because of the new nautilus. nemo from cinnamon still asks like before
[15:31] <angio> ciao
[15:31] <angio> !list
[15:31] <CarlFK> in terminal shell, ctrl-shift-V is Paste.  I need to do lots of pasting.   how can I assigning something like F12 to Paste?
[15:31] <minas> syntroPi, oh, is this a nautilus thing?? Is it a bug or is it intented?
[15:31] <angio> !paste
[15:32] <Guest75171> Question: I logged into an SSH session on one computer and started compiling an application, now when I SSH back into the same machine and see the output/same screen as the 1st session?
[15:32] <CarlFK> Guest75171: you can't set this up after the fact, but there are a few ways, like the command screen
[15:33] <syntroPi> minas,  well that depends: i think its because of the gnome3 politics with which i dont agree in some points: so its a "bug"  and a "feature" but i guess its intended from them
[15:33] <Guest75171> so I cannot see the output?
[15:33] <Guest75171> is there anyway I can tell the compile has completed?
[15:33] <CarlFK> Guest75171: is your first ssh connection still active?
[15:34] <Guest75171> yes
[15:34] <Guest75171> I assume so
[15:34] <_0xDE1337> Guest75171, Were you using screen or tmux?
[15:34] <CarlFK> Guest75171: for what you describe, I would run top and see if the compiler is still using the cpu
[15:34] <Guest75171> I was using putty
[15:35] <minas> syntroPi, I found it! I just had to change a preference in nautilus :)
[15:35] <minas> syntroPi, it sucks though that they changed the default behaviour
[15:35] <CarlFK> Guest75171: what you are asking for... lots of us want every so often.   if there was a way, someone would have figured it out.  the way is:  know you want it before you start the task
[15:36] <Guest75171> I see, thank you- I just thought it might be possible... hmm
[15:36] <syntroPi> minas yeah the mint ppl forked it to preserve some functionality in nemo...
[15:36] <Guest75171> is there any other way to check if the compiler completed other then checking top?
[15:36] <moppers> Guest75171, list processes, grep it for gcc?
[15:37] <_0xDE1337> Guest75171, Attempt to run what you were compiling?
[15:37] <Guest75171> it doesn't seem to be in top/or in the processes
[15:37] <Guest75171> is there a log the compiler creates on error?
[15:37] <moppers> Guest75171, "ps aux | grep gcc" or your username insead of gcc, whatever
[15:38] <OverSpeed301> Hi all ! I have some problems with my wireless driver on Linux Mint 14 (same as ubuntu). The system apparently don't recognize my wireless card (lspci | grep net returns only the Ethernet controller) ... Any ideas ?
[15:38] <CarlFK> Guest75171: hopefully your compile uses make.  if so, run make.
[15:38] <DJones> !mint | OverSpeed301
[15:39] <hl2> http://url9.de/BQW
[15:39] <syntroPi> OverSpeed301, watch on dmesg (if usb when you just plugged it in
[15:39] <CarlFK> i should try to re-run whatever is needed: either nothing (success!) or re-run whatever failed to create it's output file
[15:39] <syntroPi> OverSpeed301, also try lsusb
[15:39] <xrfang> hello, anyone using vmware-view-client? it is said to be in software center, but not. where can I download that for ubuntu please
[15:40] <CarlFK> Guest75171:  (repeat)  it should try to re-run whatever is needed: either nothing (success!) or re-run whatever failed to create it's output file
[15:41] <OverSpeed301> syntroPi, it's not usb, this is a wireless card in the laptop itself (laptop)
[15:41] <syntroPi> OverSpeed301, still can use usb internally so try lsusb
[15:42] <CarlFK> OverSpeed301: like lspci shows what is hooked to the usb buss of your laptop, but your laptop has no pci slots
[15:42] <simpleirc1> is it common to have unreliable sound issues with skype and pulseaudio (ubuntu 12.10)
[15:43] <neurotus> [18:38:44] Warning: Hidden file found: /dev/.initramfs: symbolic link to `/run/initramfs' | rkhunter gave this out ? how bad might this be ?
[15:43] <OverSpeed301> CarlFK syntroPi > Oh, i see! I will try lsusb
[15:43]  * Lintasan fades away.. [log:on]
[15:44] <zvacet> simpleirc1: it is not common but you can run into issues
[15:44] <CarlFK> simpleirc1: common.. sure.  likely 100's of people a week have that problem :)  which tells us nothing.   best to just dive in and try to describe your problem,  with a close source app that is owned by a not so friendly company
[15:45] <nascentmind> Hi. I am getting a directory does not exist inside the chroot when I am schrooting to a directory. How can I fix this?
[15:45] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone been able to get Skype installed in 13.04?
[15:46] <steve_fi> SuperDefenderX, installed yes, but there is a problem with the proprietary nvidia/amd drivers (or something else) that causes it to crash upon starting
[15:46] <steve_fi> SuperDefenderX, I haven't tried it yet, but I have seen this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:46] <SuperDefenderX> OH! The newest Nvidia drivers don't effect it. I totally forgot about that. Thanks.
[15:47] <simpleirc1> just out of curiosity has anyone ever heard of an open source client that can communicate with skype. is this even allowed?
[15:47] <syntroPi> CarlFK, well pci is a interchip communication proto so laptops use it a lot internally
[15:47] <bittintop> my wifi card works under Ubuntu on my laptop now, think i should save some files from the Windows partion and reinstall it :)
[15:47] <steve_fi> I have an issue where I can't get my PC to boot with any of the newer nvidia proprietary drivers (i am stuck on 304), without having to boot my pc with acpi=off
[15:48] <steve_fi> but if I do that, my sound stops working, so I am in a bit of a catch-22
[15:48] <genii-around> simpleirc1: Used to be able to call skype from gizmo but I don't know if you still can
[15:48] <torva> Apologies to come here on today of all days, but I can't find the torrents for the life of me... Can someone please point me in the right direction?
[15:49] <SonikkuAmerica> genii-around: Isn't there still a Pidgin plugin?
[15:49] <SonikkuAmerica> torva: For Ubuntu?
[15:49] <DJones> !torrents | torva
[15:49] <syntroPi> torva, http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[15:49] <torva> Thanks DJones syntroPi
[15:50] <Guest75171> CarlFK: thank you, ill try that
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads <<< is another link
[15:50] <bittin> my wifi card on my laptop works under GNU/Linux now lets kill the Windows partition :p
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> torva: ^^
[15:50] <crack> sleep,Goodbye！
[15:52] <DJRWolf> Happy 13.04 launch day!:)
[15:52] <seedymac> Noob question, I have the beta of 13.04, what do I need to do to bring put to release? 
[15:52] <SonikkuAmerica> DJRWolf: You too!
[15:52] <SonikkuAmerica> seedymac: An Internet connection.
[15:53] <SonikkuAmerica> seedymac: That's it - it should automatically throw you into the release.
[15:53] <UserError1> are there any lighter wifi mangers than network-manager-gnome and wicd-gtk?
[15:53] <simpleirc1> What is that series commands that semi-securly reboots in emergency. it sysreq and the letter reisub or something, but what are the other buttons?
[15:53] <pagios> how can i connect to my wpa2 wireless network from command line each time my system boots up?
[15:53] <seedymac> Sonderblade: So just keep up with the upgrade, I don't have to run do-release again?
[15:54] <UserError1> pagios xinitrc
[15:54] <pagios> how can i connect first :)
[15:54] <seedymac> soulofpeace: Sorry dude
[15:54] <pagios> i am using wpa_cli but i need to automate it
[15:55] <UserError1> there are directions all over google
[15:55] <UserError1> need to start with ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:55] <seedymac> Thank u all for the help!
[15:55] <mundungus> is it possible to have repositories of newer releases, on old releases?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  it's called backports
[15:56] <adrenalink> My Ubuntu 10.04 loop in login window. Maybe it's a problem with gdm. Can anyone say to me which should be the owner of /var/lib/gdm folder?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> UserError1: wicd-ncurses   is cli
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> adrenalink: I'd assume root.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> adrenalink: Lucid is EOL in a matter of days (if not already) I suggest you upgrade soon
[15:57] <mundungus> MonkeyDust , so its possible??
[15:57] <UserError1> i'm looking for a graphical manager that is lighter than network manager or wicd
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> UserError1: lighter in what way?
[15:57] <UserError1> dep
[15:57] <UserError1> s
[15:57] <UserError1> and ram usage
[15:57] <UserError1> less features is fine
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  yes
[15:58] <UserError1> this is for an arm stick
[15:58] <adrenalink> SonikkuAmerica it says to me gdm. Can you make ls -l /var/lib/gdm on your system?
[15:58] <simpleirc1> sudo kill -9 didn't kill my process, now what?
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> !backport | mundungus
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> adrenalink: I can't. (I have 13.04 with Unity.)
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !lightdm | adrenalink
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !info lightdm | adrenalink
[15:59] <Inoki> Hiya all, I just wanted to congratulate the Ubuntu team on yet another successful release :)
[15:59] <mundungus> Thank you. I am loving the older releases, specifically Maverick. If i can access packages  of newer releases, what would be the reason of upgrading?
[15:59] <UserError1> mund... security
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  a reason would be, that Maverick is no longer supported
[16:00] <adrenalink> ActionParsnip: My problem arises with a packet update (i think). However I need this ubuntu version. I am afraid to upgrade (i prefer formatting)
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  as in "dead"
[16:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Inoki: The community mainly sees your use of Ubuntu as thanks for its work. But you're welcome.
[16:00] <adrenalink> ubottu: i tried also kdm, but the problem remains...
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> mundungus: support
[16:01] <mundungus> Support?  whats wrong with that?  I recently installed 10.10 and its long being "dead" but i am using it as if it was released yesterday.. i get updates ofcos, whatelse is left?
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> mundungus: Nothing. That's what's left.
[16:02] <UserError1> security
[16:02] <marcusk> Security patches are usually important
[16:02] <Rand0m_NickName> Greetings!
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> adrenalink: I'd say an upgrade to 12.04 LTS is in order. Open a terminal and type [ do-release-upgrade ].
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Rand0m_NickName: Yp
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> mundungus: if you dislike Unity, then install Xubuntu which is just as supported as Ubuntu and use XFCE, which is similar to the old style Gnome desktop and GTK based, so you can install Gnome based apps with few deps
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> *Yo
[16:03] <UserError1> mundungus is going to get owned by some metasploit kiddie
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> O-o
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> *O_o
[16:03] <UserError1> spamming ranges like it's going out of style
[16:03] <GeorgeJ> Yello folks!
[16:03] <bonzi> hello, is there anyone else who can't use skype on 13.04?
[16:04] <SonikkuAmerica> bonzi: I have no problems with Skype; what's the issue? Does it not start?
[16:04] <GeorgeJ> What's the recommended way of building a deb for Ubuntu? Does it differ from Debian? Is using a tool recommended?
[16:04] <iLogical> !upgrade
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: look into checkinstall :)
[16:04] <netherlands6> I just done install the i386 version of skype 4.1 it work fine
[16:05] <Marlinc> Where do I need to ask questions related to the sync menu?
[16:05] <bonzi> SonikkuAmerica: If I launch it from terminal it outputs Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:05] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[16:05] <carpenoctem> Help, can't get cgi-bin progs to run under apache2 on 12.04. Permissions checked. .conf checked.... any ideas?
[16:05] <mundungus> yes, i will try it . thank you
[16:05] <AaronMT> Hi, Chrome doesnt install in 13.0.4
[16:05] <marcusk> carpenoctem: What does it say in the error log?
[16:05] <culpn8r> everytime i type 'cd' in bash it crashes any idea what would cause this?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> AaronMT  try chromium-browser, instead
[16:06] <iLogical> there is no new version to download
[16:06] <iLogical> i mean
[16:06] <iLogical> upgrade
[16:06] <iLogical> on the update manager
[16:06] <FloodBot1> iLogical: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <carpenoctem> marcusk: where is the apache2 error log located?
[16:06] <Grape_hunter> i can't create any more partiitons if i have 4 partitions already?
[16:07] <culpn8r> nvm found it thanks!
[16:07] <marcusk> carpenoctem: Usually /var/log/apache2, but it depends on your configuration.
[16:07] <lmat> When I run    sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin    , chromium sees the java plugin and everything seems to work just fine.
[16:07] <smithw> Hello. I have an nvidia optimus system which was working perfectly with bumblebee, but the update apparently reinstalled the nvidia-driver with no regard to bumblebee/the intel driver. how do I recover the intel driver?
[16:07] <lmat> However, when I run    sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin:i386    , chromium doesn't see the plugin and everything does not work just fine!
[16:09] <GeorgeJ> ActionParsnip: I'm not using make
[16:09] <iLogical> !upgrade
[16:09] <lmat> perhaps I need the 32-bit chromium......
[16:10] <iLogical> there's no upgrade to be done according to update-manager, how do I upgrade?
[16:10] <DJRWolf> feature I would like to see..on install a menu that gives you options on what desktop UI (Unity, Gnome 3, LXDE, Cinnamon) to default to with description and screen shots
[16:11] <sonofzeus> Hi There
[16:11] <lmat> doh.   "chromium-browser:i386 depends on xdg-utils:i386 but it is not installable" :(
[16:11] <Eit8> I don't get why everytime I do an ubuntu upgrade everything get screwed, I've been using ubuntu since 8.04 or near
[16:11] <UserError1> when in doubt, zero it out
[16:11] <n-iCe> I'm trying to run wifi direct to share internet with my phone, http://pastebin.com/ie5wjZ1X but my device is not able to detect my pc, intel card, which is supposed to be detected, wlan0 is the one I want to share from
[16:12] <carpenoctem> aha, it says permission denied.... but I swear I cmod 755'd everything!
[16:12] <sonofzeus> Hi There
[16:12] <sonofzeus> cd /usr/src svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/misc][7]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/misc svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/Tracker][8]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/Tracker
[16:12] <GeorgeJ> Is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[16:12] <sonofzeus> why isnt this workin in terminal?
[16:12] <Pici> iLogical: What release of Ubuntu are you running currently?
[16:12] <sam113101> wooooooooooooooo
[16:12] <AaronMT> Skype doesnt install in 13.04
[16:13] <sam113101> 13.04 was fast for the time it was working
[16:13] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[16:13] <iLogical> Pici, Description:	Ubuntu-Secure-Remix 12.10 30nov2012
[16:13] <bazhang> sonofzeus, is that opentracker?
[16:14] <carpenoctem> skype is malware anyway....
[16:14] <sonofzeus> nah
[16:14] <meerkat> carpenoctem, how so?
[16:14] <iLogical> Pici, i want to have a smooth stable system
[16:14] <sonofzeus> Why is skype malware lol
[16:14] <GeorgeJ> !dev
[16:14] <iLogical> not a kernel upgrade every few days
[16:14] <syntroPi> AaronMT, whats the problem?
[16:15] <syntroPi> AaronMT, i installed it from the partner repos without any hickups on a clean x64 raring
[16:15] <Pici> iLogical: We cannot provide support for unofficial variants of Ubuntu.  You should reach out the support resources for that version for upgrade info.
[16:15] <lmat> so if xdg-utils is already installed, I can't install xdg-utils:i386?
[16:15] <Guest97581> Has Netflix (movies online) relented and made themselves available for Linux yet?
[16:15] <iLogical> Pici, it was the only thing i could get working with uefi
[16:15] <carpenoctem> Besides the built in surveillance, at least on windows Skype is known to do some really funny DLL hooking on par with rootkits. It also opens up another security hole avenue (bitcoin mining worm, etc)
[16:16] <h00k> Guest97581: not yet, no, but there are unofficial methods of getting it to work, apparently.
[16:16] <h00k> !ot
[16:16] <Guest97581> umm some say those unofficial methods may be detrimental to your system. Do you know?
[16:17] <ybon> AaronMT: see maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327
[16:17] <DJones> !netflix | Guest97581
[16:17] <carpenoctem> Let me guess they don't provide source code for skype, so you are just trusting the binary... which sorta defeats the purpose of nix in the first place!
[16:17] <p0wn3d> Guest97581: They have a workaround for using wine
[16:18] <aneks> what would be a better option, oppenoffice or libre office?
[16:18] <carpenoctem> Jitsi would be the way to go.
[16:19] <DJones> aneks: LibreOffice is installed by default and is officially supported here, so, that would suggest that will better option
[16:19] <carpenoctem> LibreOffice is better imo. (the good devs from openoffice split to make libre fyi)
[16:20] <aneks> just like I thought :)
[16:20] <jakey1> hi, if i amke an iso image of my window 7 using the backup function, can I mount that image in ubuntu?
[16:20] <jakey1> or in virtual box?
[16:20] <Guest97581> Using "wine" means that someone smart learned how to work around in the terminal with commands and make things work, right? Does anyone do this for netflix? and "unofficial" means Linux hasn't said it's a safe thing yet, right?
[16:21] <kostkon> Guest97581, they offer a package that setups everything for you
[16:21] <h00k> Guest97581: you can read more about it at that page linked above
[16:21] <kostkon> Guest97581, then you just need click on the netflix icon ;)
[16:21] <Guest97581> Who offers a package for the setup?
[16:21] <DJones> Guest97581: See the link the bot gave you a couple of minutes ago
[16:21] <kostkon> !netflix | Guest97581
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: not sure about "safe"
[16:22] <oscar> Can anyone see my IP address ? o_o
[16:22] <jakey1> anyone?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: in this scenario, it doesn't really apply, there is a PPA with a modified wine to make it work
[16:22] <h00k> oscar: consider getting a cloak
[16:22] <h00k> !cloak | oscar
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> oscar: I can
[16:22] <oscar> Shit lmao, I'm fixing this ASAP!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: mount can mount ISO files, yes
[16:23] <kostkon> Guest97581, it creates a separate wine bottle for it, so it doesn't even touch your default wine installation.
[16:23] <h00k> oscar: keep the language appropriate, please
[16:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> watch your language, oscar
[16:23] <Guest97581> Is "PPA" safe to use? i just set up Xubuntu about a month ago and am new at this.
[16:23] <jakey1> ActionParsnip, does it work with windows then
[16:23] <oscar> Sorry.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: its an unofficial package, so technically not
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: no idea
[16:23] <jakey1> if I make a backup image can I run it on ubuntu
[16:23] <h00k> Guest97581: they may be, but anyone who administers that PPA can, for instance, put some malicious package to install in there.
[16:23] <h00k> ubottu: tell Guest97581 about ppa
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: but you'd see stuff all over the web saying to not use it if it was bad
[16:24] <aniket> q=/exit
[16:24] <deadweasel> Dr_willis: figured out my issue...  needed to remove/backup .Xauthority, reinstall Xorg, reboot
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: you could use the ISO to restore the OS in virtualox and make it boot there (maybe)
[16:26] <xro> Hi, i have a maybe stupid question... I just upgrade to 13.04... I can't figure out how to set multiple screen (changing with ctrl alt ->)... Where is this setting?
[16:26] <DJRWolf> besides System76, are there any OEM's for Ubuntu/Linux computers?
[16:26] <ventura> hi... does any one know if the disk encryption on 13.04 is bugged?
[16:26] <torva> Does anyone have a flash drive I could borrow, or a blank DVD?
[16:26] <Korekame> Dell
[16:26] <Guest97581> humm kind of scary to launch out on that one. Would you guys?
[16:26] <Korekame> @DJRWolf Dell sells ubuntu computers, look up Alienware X51
[16:26] <DJRWolf> Korekame, last time I looked Dell has 11.10
[16:27] <Korekame> You didn't specify current Ubuntu
[16:27] <Korekame> Sorry
[16:27] <DJRWolf> korekame, was only option
[16:27] <alecb> lxappearance is not generating a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 for me (or as far as I can tell, any other file) anyone know what's up?
[16:28] <Korekame> DJRWolf, if you want current ubuntu on your system, System76 is pretty much the only way to go, other places do ship computers with Ubuntu, but it tends to be older out of date releases, I'm surprised though, that Dell doesn't use 12.04
[16:28] <ventura> @all: hi here... does any one know if the disk encryption on 13.04 is bugged?
[16:28] <h00k> ventura: You can check !launchpad for any bug reports. Are you experiencing issues?
[16:28] <ventura> the prompt is not show at normal boot, only recovery mode
[16:28] <ventura> h00k^
[16:29] <ventura> h00k: but, if i type the key, the boot proceeds.
[16:29] <Eit8> after upgrade, default session (unity) doesn't load the windows manager
[16:29] <Eit8> gnome session works
[16:30] <DJRWolf> Korkame, I remember having come across some other OEM's I just don't remember who they were and where I found them
[16:30] <netherlands6> I have an issue on ubuntu my microphone doesnt work even on  skype or google talk but I heard and see the other clearly how to fix it please
[16:30] <UserError1> is there a smaller network manager than wicd-gtk or network-manager-gnome?
[16:31] <torva> UserError1: Do you need wireless?
[16:31] <UserError1> yes
[16:31] <Kircle> I notice in 13.04 the top panel uses blurring. Is there anyway to do such with the launcher instead of transparency?
[16:31] <LorenzoMoney> I have a lenovo L-512 and want to put ubunto or mint on it. Which is better? what are the differences?
[16:31] <alecb> oh w/e, I just symlinked ambiance's gtkrc directly. not sure why lxappearance was fucking up
[16:31] <h00k> alecb: please mind the language
[16:31] <n-iCe> how do I set my interface to p2p
[16:31] <torva> Sorry UserError1 I don't know then. Hopefully someone else can answer. Have you tried searching the Internet for alternative network managers?
[16:31] <UserError1> yes :P
[16:31] <torva> n-iCe: I'm not sure what you mean
[16:32] <n-iCe> torva: in order to share internet using wifi p2p(wifi direct) I need to set my card to wifi direct or p2p like a monitor mode
[16:34] <LorenzoMoney>  I have a lenovo L-512 and want to put ubunto or mint on it. Which is better? what are the differences?
[16:35] <sakang> OMG saucy repo is up
[16:35] <OerHeks> LorenzoMoney, Ubuntu, mint is not supported here.
[16:35] <Nickwiz_> Where do I find when a release is going to be pushed? Need this release, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/7.5-0ubuntu3, Have: 7.5-0ubuntu2 as of update on 17 oct 2012.
[16:35] <DJones> LorenzoMoney: You're asking in the UBuntu support channels....... But, try them both and see which you find best for your personal requirements
[16:35] <Nickwiz_> Wondering if I should install it manually or wait for distro upgrade.
[16:35] <Grape_hunter> wubi installer crashes at 99% :\
[16:37] <PatrickC> ugh, i installed ubuntu-desktop on an ubuntu server, now i want to remove it
[16:38] <PatrickC> tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <PatrickC> still installed after reboot
[16:38] <vanishing> apt-get purge?
[16:38] <PatrickC> tried
[16:38] <PatrickC> says it's not installed
[16:38] <vanishing> then it is not installed...
[16:38] <h00k> PatrickC: That will just remove the metapackage, I know there's a way to purge all the stuffs it installs, but I don't have it offhand
[16:40] <vanishing> PatrickC: not sure if this is still relevant....but maybe give it a go...cautiously.
[16:40] <vanishing> http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/completely-remove-ubuntu-desktop/
[16:40] <sakang> PatrickC: just re-install server. your best option
[16:40] <PatrickC> i'll try that.. if i have to re-install i will
[16:40] <UserError1> sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[16:41] <UserError1> boom
[16:41] <Eit8> ~after upgrade can't enable unity from ccsm, any idea ?
[16:42] <rickborn> upgrade complete, rebooting, wish me luck
[16:43] <darkmutt> hi guys got a question how would i rollback proprietary driers when they wont display anymore??
[16:46] <syntroPi> darkmutt, maybe the old deb is still in  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:47] <lmat> I'm having the most difficult time installing...
[16:48] <shankstaBytes> do i need to do anything special to get 13.04 installed
[16:48] <shankstaBytes> im on 12.04
[16:48] <Pici> shankstaBytes: you need to upgrade to 12.10 and then 13.04
[16:48] <lmat> sudo apt-get autoremove     returns "Teh following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:48] <Eit8> shankstaBytes: you need luck
[16:48] <lmat> firefox-globalmenu:i386: depends: firefox:i386 ... but it is not installed"
[16:48] <i-make-robots> uh…. hi?  I just ran the latest patch upgrades for ubuntu 12.04.1 and now i can't log into mysql as root.
[16:48] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: I'd advise to do a fresh install
[16:48] <Akiva-Mobile> upgrading never works out well for me
[16:49] <jadus> hi guys, i have a problem with 13.04 x64 and fglrx from amd pages
[16:49] <shankstaBytes> Why?
[16:49] <ventura> h00k: it was already happenning on 12.10 http://goo.gl/XiKfX
[16:49] <shankstaBytes> upgrades always work with Ubuntu
[16:49] <jadus> X crashes on Failed to create screen resources
[16:49] <jadus> any help?
[16:49] <Jeena_> hm something got weird with webkit qt on 13.04 everything which is a fat font stoped to be crispy https://jeena.net/t/qt-bold.png <- left firefox, right my own PyQt browser showing Facebook which uses Lucida Grande
[16:49] <Akiva-Mobile> i-make-robots: do you normally give your root database access?
[16:49] <ventura> h00k: i am installing the nvida driver right now, i hope it works... thx]
[16:49] <shankstaBytes> Your suppose to be able to upgrade from Long Term Support Release to LTS
[16:49] <lmat> so, sudo apt-get install firefox:i386   then dpkg error processing ... firefox... .deb.   trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package firefoxinstaller
[16:50] <Akiva-Mobile> shouldnt it be like, sudo -u mysqluser mysql
[16:50] <jadus> fglrxinfo returns Unable to open display
[16:50] <i-make-robots> Akiva-Mobile: it's a private server inside my network with nothing important.
[16:50] <DJones> shankstaBytes: 13.04 isn't LTS
[16:50] <i-make-robots> also: not the point.
[16:50] <stat_vi> lmat: try `apt-get -f install`
[16:50] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: supposed to is right, and it works enough to well work. Just it produces weirdness sometimes
[16:50] <hapster> hi. just upgraded to 13.04. I have an optimus laptop. optirun doesn't seem to work anymore. Anyone having similar troubles?
[16:51] <i-make-robots> Akiva-Mobile: the mysql root user, not the ubuntu root user.
[16:51] <Akiva-Mobile> i-make-robots: ah, my mistake :P
[16:51] <lmat> stat_vi: right, no good.
[16:51] <Akiva-Mobile> i-make-robots: That is a strange bug then
[16:51] <lmat> errors were encountered while processing ... firefox ... .deb
[16:51] <Akiva-Mobile> i run postgres, havnt noticed anything myself
[16:52] <lmat> perhaps the package was corrupt...
[16:52] <shankstaBytes> oh i thought 13.04 was LTS
[16:53] <DJones> shankstaBytes: Every 2 years, so 12.04 then 14.04
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> ill just stick to LTS
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> unless it is alot better
[16:53] <unnn-x> st
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> tests dont make it seem much better
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1304_12042&num=5
[16:54] <UserError1> Don't you want Saucy Salamander?
[16:54] <talsamon_> hello, i don't no where i should ask, i have on one hd lubuntu on the another freebsd, how can i tell grub, to boot freebsd
[16:54] <DJones> shankstaBytes: You're best bet is to run a live usb version and try it yourself
[16:55] <lmat> stat_vi: whoa! I guess I fixed it.
[16:55] <TheEmpath> umm how do i check if a directory exists via a bash script?  i'm getting a mind-numbing error with something so simple https://gist.github.com/CodeOtter/c3c43f590b94adbba0a2
[16:55] <stat_vi> lmat: gz ;)
[16:55] <lmat> stat_vi: The message had been.. "package {a} has unmet dependencies" so I apt-get remove {a}
[16:55] <lmat> stat_vi: it didn't complain that time!
[16:55] <lmat> wow
[16:55] <shankstaBytes> Djones a live usb version isn't going to give me any speed indicators though
[16:57] <wdonkey> good afternoon great people of the Freenode realm
[16:57] <wdonkey> what a nice day it is to do a fresh ubuntu installation
[16:58] <wdonkey> i would like to have some pointers on how to partition my hdd/ssd for dualbooting
[16:58] <shankstaBytes> i dont understand how people can do fresh installs so often
[16:58] <wdonkey> anybody feels up to the task ?
[16:58] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey you just run the installer
[16:58] <UserError1> shank, because ubuntu is designed to create bloat
[16:59] <shankstaBytes> ?
[16:59] <zanus> psst
[16:59] <zanus> say my name really slowly while pretending you're German
[16:59] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 like what
[16:59] <wdonkey> people do fresh installs because they are rich enough to buy new computers
[16:59] <wdonkey> w00t
[16:59] <UserError1> even the way packages are installed by the three main methods, the appstore, synaptic, and terminal
[16:59] <UserError1> have three different presets in ubuntu
[17:00] <UserError1> for recommends and suggests
[17:00] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 whats is "recommends and suggests"
[17:00] <Pici> UserError1: No they don't.
[17:00] <UserError1> oh really
[17:00] <UserError1> check this Pici
[17:00] <UserError1> i literally just did this
[17:00] <wdonkey> shankstaBytes: i know how to install it, i just want to get the most out of it; should i have my /home on a different partition than my /system ??
[17:00] <Pici> UserError1: Reccomends and Suggests are both stored in the package information itself, which is shared across any tool that uses apt.
[17:00] <UserError1> install bleachbit in each
[17:01] <UserError1> i never said it wasn't
[17:01] <wdonkey> what if i have limited space on a SSD and want to creat a swap partition for using files with windows as well ?
[17:01] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey it really depends what you want to do with /home i would say no it really makes no difference
[17:01] <lmat> okay, I'm unable to install firefox
[17:01] <lmat> sudo apt-get install firefox     fails.
[17:01] <UserError1> you're going to get alot of automagic in pulling in the suggests from the AS and syn
[17:01] <compdoc> anyone using a vnc server for 13.04? vnc4server seems to have issues
[17:01] <lmat> It gets the firefox-globalmenu done, but doesn't get firefox installed.
[17:01] <Pici> UserError1: Don't spread FUD like "ubuntu is designed to create bloat"
[17:01] <UserError1> it is...
[17:01] <wdonkey> ok..
[17:02] <UserError1> and i use it
[17:02] <UserError1> forced deps
[17:02] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey one thing you should do though is make the swap the same size as your memory
[17:02] <UserError1> tell me why Xorg needs radeon on intel ultrabooks shipped with ubuntu
[17:02] <PatrickC> trying to upgrade my (fixed) server, and getting this error... http://screencast.com/t/Xusgvvii9iu
[17:02] <bogor> Will i break my system if i remove zeitgeist package ?
[17:02] <UserError1> *crickets*
[17:02] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 how many kb does that take?
[17:03] <shankstaBytes> :D
[17:03] <UserError1> MB
[17:03] <UserError1> on an SSD that decreases the speed
[17:03] <UserError1> considering the mobile choices ubuntu is making
[17:03] <UserError1> it is counter-productive
[17:03] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 you could always create an installation script to help out all of us :D
[17:03] <UserError1> why do you think ubuntu is frantically working to shrink packages
[17:03] <UserError1> such as lightdm
[17:03] <btorch> does anyone here know a way to find details with in /sys/bus/pci in order to create udev rules ?
[17:03] <UserError1> look at the XFCE deps
[17:03] <UserError1> it's pathetic
[17:04] <OerHeks> UserError1, stop the ranting please.
[17:04] <h00k> UserError1: Do you have any support related questions? If not, feel free to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic or other channel related to your topic.
[17:04] <btorch> right now I use udevadm but it would be nice to be able to search a path and find files I could that info from
[17:04] <UserError1> i'm sitting here compiling my own ubuntu for an ARM stick, having to apt-build everything indep because the deps are insane
[17:04] <jiltdil> 823 mb 12.04??? Need DVD
[17:04] <UserError1> jilt, use the network installer
[17:04] <UserError1> mini iso
[17:04] <Slart> jiltdil: I would go with a usb-stick, so much easier
[17:04] <shankstaBytes> I have a 1TB drive so it doesn't bother me
[17:04] <RyanTG> UserError1: If you're unhappy with Ubuntu just vote with your feet and use another distro.  Gentoo's probably what you're looking for so you can control the dependencies.
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> and another 500GB drive
[17:05] <UserError1> you asked
[17:05] <UserError1> i told
[17:05] <lee> hello. I am trying to set up a server to act as a gateway (with two NICs), eth1 going to the LAN and eth0 going to an ADSL modem. I want ubuntu to do the dialing, so I have set the modem to bridge mode. however when I run pppoeconf, it scans for "access concentrators", finds none, apologises for finding none, and gives up. any suggestions what to do next?
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> but good stuff thanks UserError1
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> I love learning more about ubuntu
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> or linux in general
[17:05] <lmat> YAY! Got firefox installed!
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> I just wish we had a solution to the problem you presented
[17:05] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: wait till you learn some command line goodies ; you'll love it:)
[17:06] <lmat> the problem: kubuntu installed a package : kubuntu-firefox-installer  which got in the way of firefox!
[17:06] <UserError1> shank, check out the apt-build package
[17:06] <Akiva-Mobile> hell, i like using the command line 100 times more than programming in c++
[17:06] <zanus> lee:  use an operating system that doesn't require a computer science PhD
[17:06] <zanus> try Windows 8
[17:06] <h00k> !ot
[17:06] <zanus> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[17:06] <GeekDude> Minecraft isn't really working on this new system I set up... Error message pictures: http://imgur.com/a/DeKhQ
[17:06] <shankstaBytes> zanus haha
[17:07] <Addle> I'm trying to rebuild my PPA package for Raring, so I'm using "Copy Packages", selecting my quantal version, destination series "Raring" and "Rebuild the copied sources". It keeps telling me: "qmentat 0.8-1ppa1 in quantal (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)" Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[17:07] <wdonkey> thing is
[17:07] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: did you try yelling at it?
[17:07] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, No, but I might if I can't figure it out soon
[17:07] <bitnumus> hi all, i've just upgraded kernel via repos to 3.5.0-26, and network isnt working. The strange thing is, the only thing that works is IRC, i cant even ping google, no browsers work etc... any ideas?
[17:07] <Slart> GeekDude: minecraft caused that? it works normally if you do other graphics related stuff?
[17:08] <GeekDude> Slart, Yeah. It's java related, I'm pretty sure
[17:08] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: it might be your graphics card overheating
[17:08] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, It's a built-in graphics card. It does this within the first 2 minutes of playing
[17:08] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: that application is just amazingly gpu intensive
[17:08] <Akiva-Mobile> geekdude which card?
[17:08] <wdonkey> shankstaBytes: scenario 1 : laptop has a 24g SSD with 6gb swap space taken and a 500gb HDD (190gb : win8/260gb data)
[17:09] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I don't actually know. I'm using the Sun java (Oracle's java 6)
[17:09] <Slart> GeekDude: I highly doubt java will crash your system like that... something else is broken and minecraft might just be the final straw.. overheating, graphics drivers or something else
[17:09] <h00k> GeekDude: I would consider checking your hardware, CPU and Memory first, they *should't* kernel panic and a lot of times it's hardware related
[17:09] <carpenoctem> apache2 on ubuntu, trying to test a simple cgi, error log says "premature end of script headers"...?
[17:09] <wdonkey> i feel 16gb is quite small for a new OS, can i have the /home stuff being thrown in the 260 gb data partition
[17:09] <GeekDude> h00k, I've run a memtest through 2 passes, so It's probably not the memory
[17:10] <Slart> GeekDude: what kind of graphics hardware do you have?
[17:10] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: no i mean, ati, nvidia?
[17:10] <Akiva-Mobile> intel?
[17:10] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I'll look up the specs
[17:10] <adamk> Clearly radeon, basd on the kernel panic.
[17:10] <Slart> GeekDude: try something like the unigine valley benchmark.. see if that kills the system as well
[17:10] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey swap is used during sleep/when you close the lid of a laptop if you dont have a laptop then it doesn't matter
[17:10] <Taptoula> Hi
[17:11] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey at least that is what people have told me
[17:11] <UserError1> swap is also used for 4k r/w
[17:11] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, According to the internet, my computer model has "ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 Chipset Onboard Video"
[17:11] <UserError1> geekdude that card... can run MC?
[17:11] <GeekDude> Slart, Unigine valley benchmark?
[17:11] <GeekDude> UserError1, With optifine having everything turned down/off
[17:11] <wdonkey> ok shankstaBytes thanks for your help..
[17:12] <Taptoula> Is there anything to do tu upgrade from 13.04beta to final ? Or is an apt-get dist-upgrade sufficient ?
[17:12] <Slart> GeekDude: it's just a graphics intensive demo that is available for linux.. if graphics is the problem I'm pretty sure that will trigger it
[17:12] <adamk> I would guess that it's overheating.
[17:12] <DJones> !final | Taptoula
[17:12] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: I don't know for sure, but for minecraft, that will throw your gpu into overoverdrive for sure
[17:12] <h00k> shankstaBytes: swap is used for transient memory that won't fit in RAM, it uses your hard drive when the memory space is full
[17:12] <Taptoula> Djones : it does answer my question perfectly :) thanks
[17:12] <shankstaBytes> h00k ya i know but nowadays that never happens
[17:13] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I have it dual booting with windows, should I try running MC on windows instead?
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> I have 16 GIGs of ram on my laptop haha
[17:13] <h00k> shankstaBytes: I would argue that point, it really depends on the application. Anyway, that is what it is used for.
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> ya
[17:13] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: might work, but if it crashes there too, then you would have your answer
[17:13] <Slart> GeekDude: http://unigine.com/  they have a couple of benchmarks.. not sure which ones are available for linux..
[17:13] <mkadin> when I boot the laptop without any external attached, and then plug in my monitor to the HDMI port, the desktop will split between the two monitors. However, if I boot with the external plugged in already, ubuntu doesn't recognize the laptop display at all, any ideas?
[17:13] <Akiva-Mobile> radeon drivers typically are better for windows
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> h00k but most normal applications will work fine within 4 gigs
[17:13] <Akiva-Mobile> but then again, you have to run bloody windows, which sucks
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> easily
[17:14] <Eit8> I'm having problems with compiz and unity after the upgrade, I can't get unity to work even with the ccsm, every time I enable unity it ask me to enable other stuff then it resets
[17:14] <zanuses> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:14] <zanuses> 1I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:14] <zanuses> 2I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:14] <FloodBot1> zanuses: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <Akiva-Mobile> eit8 yes, upgrades can be painful
[17:14] <shankstaBytes> sounds like fun
[17:14] <shankstaBytes> I love the bongos
[17:14] <Akiva-Mobile> Eit8: other people "could" help you, but honestly my advice is to never upgrade; always do fresh installs.
[17:15] <h00k> !ot | shankstaBytes
[17:15] <Akiva-Mobile> to which I would say, back  up tyour data now, and do a fresh install
[17:15] <mkadin> Why would my laptop not recognize its own display when booting with an external attached via HDMI?
[17:15] <wmp> hello, after last upgrade on 13.04 i havent audio, what can i do?
[17:15] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp: fresh install
[17:16] <shankstaBytes> wmp haha reinstall your audio drivers
[17:16] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp; frech installs > upgrades
[17:16] <shankstaBytes> what is the default sound controller?
[17:16] <wmp> shankstaBytes: what package?
[17:16] <Akiva-Mobile> fresh*
[17:16] <h00k> wmp: do your devices show up in the sound menu?
[17:16] <shankstaBytes> alsa ?
[17:16] <wmp> h00k: yes
[17:16] <h00k> wmp: and the channels aren't muted? Do they play the test sound?
[17:16] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, Windows is booted up, I will try to update/install java
[17:16] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: yes, or pulseaudio
[17:17] <wmp> h00k: aplayer dont play
[17:17] <wmp> all is unmuted
[17:17] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: Enjoi playing with your blocks :)
[17:17] <wmp> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2bac91e547bf6fa7a763e0059593731208fc8a25
[17:17] <pagios> hello
[17:17] <NetFlam> Hi all
[17:18] <bitnumus> i did a kernel upgrade and internet isnt working ? IRC is working but no browsers
[17:18] <pagios> i would like to configure my wireless to connect automatically when system boots, i am currently using wpa_cli to do so but would like to automate the process
[17:18] <bitnumus> i cant ping google
[17:18] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp: sudo apt-get reinstall alsa*
[17:18] <Slart> bitnumus: it's not just dns that is broken?
[17:18] <bitnumus> Slart, maybe, how can i check ?
[17:18] <bitnumus> i've looked in network manager etc
[17:18] <h00k> bitnumus: can you ping by IP, like 8.8.8.8?
[17:18] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: E: Invalid operation reinstall
[17:18] <jrtappers> Is the usb device number static?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> jrtappers  yes
[17:19] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp, sec
[17:19] <bitnumus> yes i can ping that h00k
[17:19] <Slart> bitnumus: try ping 173.194.69.104   (<- it's just the ip of google)
[17:19] <subthalamus> are pulseaudio questions allowed?
[17:19] <bitnumus> should i add that to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:19] <Slart> bitnumus: if that works you can try pinging www.google.com instead
[17:19] <bitnumus> yes i can ping!
[17:19] <bitnumus> i cant ping the domain
[17:19] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: apt-get install --reinstall alsa*
[17:19] <bitnumus> so what DNS to try? and can i add direct to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:20] <Slart> bitnumus: any errors? unknown host?
[17:20] <carpenoctem> is /var/www the normal location for htdocs on ubuntu apache2?
[17:20] <subthalamus> nevermind
[17:20] <Slart> bitnumus: 8.8.8.8 is the google dns, I think.. try that
[17:20] <bitnumus> Slart, yes unknown host
[17:20] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp: there you go :P
[17:20] <bitnumus> Slart, do i need to restart network manager somehow ?
[17:21] <logical> hi all, I have a problem with my wireless adapter, after software update my pc can't see the wireless adapter, so i launched the ubuntu to older version 3.5.0-17, now the card is working properly.. but how can i set my pc to automatic start with 3.5.0-17
[17:21] <Slart> bitnumus: I'm not sure.. give it a try first.. if it doesn't work try restarting the network
[17:21] <bitnumus> how do i restart the network ?
[17:21] <Akiva-Mobile> logical: I tend to think fresh installs work best
[17:21] <Akiva-Mobile> upgrades typically give troubles like that
[17:22] <El_Presidente> hello :)
[17:22] <bitnumus> restarting /etc/init.d/networking crashed everything :)
[17:22] <Slart> bitnumus: try  sudo service networking restart
[17:22] <Akiva-Mobile> bitnumus: lol
[17:22] <El_Presidente> anyone having trouble with skype on 13.04 if 13.4 fglrx is installed?
[17:22] <bitnumus> Akiva-Mobile, ? :(
[17:23] <Akiva-Mobile> bitnumus just sharing your pain
[17:23] <bitnumus> 3hours so far on this one kernel upgrade, crashed graphics too
[17:23] <Akiva-Mobile> bitnumus I always try to do fresh installs rather than upgrades
[17:24] <bitnumus> Akiva-Mobile, Slart i changed DNS to 8.8.8.8 but it still isnt seeing www.google.com
[17:24] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: reinstall and rbeoot, and nothing
[17:24] <wmp> bitnumus: ping 8.8.8.8 work?
[17:24] <Slart> bitnumus: try this     dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com
[17:24] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp: nothing eh?
[17:24] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: nothing
[17:24] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp: do you have sound devices hooked up?
[17:24] <bitnumus> pinging 8.8.8.8 does work yes wmp
[17:25] <Akiva-Mobile> like when you go to the control panel?
[17:25] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: i have laptop
[17:25] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp: yep
[17:25] <bitnumus> lol, i cant paste the output wmp
[17:25] <bitnumus> of that dig command
[17:25] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp, you can also try a reinstall of pulseaudio
[17:25] <bitnumus> ARGH
[17:25] <wmp> bitnumus: dg give you error ?
[17:26] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: aplay dont play
[17:26] <bitnumus> nope no errors that i see wmp
[17:26] <Slart> bitnumus: do you get 5 or so lines for www.google.com   300    IN    A
[17:26] <lmat> I have windows installed on a partition on my computer. The bootloader obviously doesn't know about it. How can I get grub to attempt to boot to a windows partition?
[17:26] <Akiva-Mobile> wmp I'd still say to do a fresh install
[17:26] <Akiva-Mobile> it will be faster
[17:26] <bitnumus> Slart, yes
[17:26] <wmp> Akiva-Mobile: no :)
[17:26] <Slart> bitnumus: ok, then it seems your networking works.. it's just the dns settings that's bad
[17:26] <wmp> bitnumus: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:26] <bitnumus> Slart, no
[17:26] <chop1n> bitnumus, paste on http://pastebin.com/
[17:26] <bitnumus> www.google.com.		192	IN	A	173.194.34.82
[17:26] <syntroPi> where is that gnome session data stored on raring? it used to be on /tmp but there it is not anymore
[17:26] <bitnumus> chop1n, read the scroll i have no browser access :)
[17:27] <Slart> bitnumus: that's close enough =)
[17:27] <chop1n> bitnumus, hah! :P
[17:27] <bitnumus> wmp, that has 8.8.8.8 in it, because i was tsting that, nothing works
[17:27] <bitnumus> this is crazy
[17:27] <wmp> bitnumus: could you give content?
[17:27] <bitnumus> # Generated by NetworkManager
[17:27] <bitnumus> 8.8.8.8
[17:28] <chop1n> Shouldn't it be "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[17:28] <Addle> chop1n: Yes it should.
[17:28] <bitnumus> should NetworkManager be running as root, and dnsmasq running as 'nobody'
[17:29] <bitnumus> Addle, it should? network manager added that not me
[17:29] <wmp> bitnumus: echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' > /etc/resolv.conf
[17:29] <Addle> bitnumus: Yeah, that's pretty strange.
[17:29] <chop1n> yeah ... your resolv.conf looks wrong to me then
[17:29] <Noounix> Je suis là .
[17:29] <bitnumus> hmm
[17:29] <chop1n> don't know why though
[17:29] <bitnumus> how can i restart network manager ?
[17:29] <Addle> A bug in NetworkManager perhaps?
[17:30] <bitnumus> without logging out,
[17:30] <bitnumus> or should i just log out
[17:30] <bitnumus> hold that thought!
[17:30] <Addle> The resolv.conf should take effect right away, I believe.
[17:31] <Noounix> wtf  ?
[17:31] <bitnumus> yep
[17:31] <bitnumus> looks like a bug.
[17:31] <subthalamus> pulseaudio no longer plays stuff through my speakers after upgrade to quantal
[17:31] <h00k> Noounix: acronyms also are included in the !language ffor the room, please mind it
[17:31] <bitnumus> thanks all!
[17:32] <bitnumus> out of curiosity, why wouldnt no DNS work ?
[17:32] <Addle> bitnumus: It would, as long as you don't mind using IP addresses for everything. :)
[17:32] <pagios> anyone?
[17:33] <pagios> i would like to configure my wireless to connect automatically when system boots, i am currently using wpa_cli to do so but would like to automate the process
[17:33] <bitnumus> i mean, what is default ?
[17:33] <pagios> :?
[17:33] <bitnumus> Addle, if on network manage 'Automatic DCHP' was selected
[17:33] <bitnumus> what would it use in that case?
[17:33] <Slart> bitnumus: the default dns usually comes from the network provider, if you're using dhcp
[17:33] <Addle> bitnumus: The DHCP should tell it what DNS to use, generally.
[17:33] <bitnumus> odd, i have no idea
[17:33] <bitnumus> but network manager isn't including 'nameserver'
[17:34] <Slart> bitnumus: if you're on a static ip you usually get information about your ip, gateway, dns and whatnot
[17:34] <PoolShark_> I need a realtime versioning backup util for ubuntu CLI... anyone know of one?
[17:34] <OerHeks> bitnumus,did you try to reset your router?
[17:34] <bitnumus> OerHeks, lol
[17:34] <bitnumus> thanks all
[17:34] <Addle> bitnumus: Yeah, the evidence that NetworkManager has a bug is pretty good. It even signed its name in the file. :)
[17:34] <Addle> bitnumus: Might want to think about filing a bug report.
[17:34] <bitnumus> cup of tea first :)
[17:38] <onewanman> new ubuntu user anything i need to do the upgrade for 13.04 beta to full release
[17:38] <Slart> onewanman: usually it just upgrades to the real thing when you run the regular updates
[17:38] <Addle> onewanman: Nope, just update normally.
[17:39] <onewanman> thanks
[17:40] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I've updated java, and it seems to be running better in windows than in ubuntu. It hasn't crashed. Yet.
[17:40] <ezra-s> anyone has been trying ubuntu 13.04 release from today? Any issues and things worth mentioning?
[17:40] <ventura> h00k: gut! i have the key prompt, but unity is dead.
[17:41] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: Great,
[17:41] <Snake2k> Hello, is it wise to update from 12.10 to 13? considering all the apps installed etc and them being configured etc..
[17:41] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: a guilty pleasure on a sinful system, but  oh well
[17:41] <Akiva-Mobile> java will come around
[17:41] <Akiva-Mobile> Snake2k: no
[17:42] <Akiva-Mobile> judging by all the people in here with problems upgrading
[17:42] <Akiva-Mobile> fresh installs are much more advised
[17:42] <h00k> Snake2k: I've had two upgrades go without incident, also
[17:42] <Snake2k> Akiva-Mobile, Hmmm I see.. so chances are my files can pretty much get screwed..
[17:42] <h00k> Snake2k: make sure you have a backup of your important stuff, just in case
[17:42] <syntroPi> how can i kill the gnome session in raring? where is it???
[17:43] <Akiva-Mobile> Snake2k: what I would do is boot a live cd, resize the partition, install it on the free space, test the upload, and if it works, boot the live cd again, and destroy your old isntallation and resize your new one to fit your disk
[17:43] <Akiva-Mobile> Snake2k: your mileage may vary
[17:43] <Akiva-Mobile> snake2k dont forget about ubuntuone
[17:43] <Akiva-Mobile> you get 5 gigs free to backup ysour stuff
[17:43] <Akiva-Mobile> anyways, I am out
[17:43] <Akiva-Mobile> later folks
[17:43] <Endafy> id love to try out the new Ubuntu but the installer wont even boot
[17:43] <Endafy> anyone else having the iso not boot
[17:44] <Snake2k> Akiva-Mobile, Thanks for the advice :) I'll consider the live cd thing :)
[17:44] <GeekDude> bye Akiva-Mobile
[17:44] <h00k> !verify | Endafy make sure your boot media is okay
[17:44] <Endafy> I swear release after release yall release junk
[17:44] <Endafy> the boot media is fine
[17:44] <Endafy> I used torrent
[17:44] <Endafy> checked the md5
[17:44] <Endafy> it wont boot
[17:44] <Endafy> lmao
[17:44] <Snake2k> h00k, Backup of stuff in my Home folder or file system right? Im guessing host and my other drives shouldnt be affected by the update..
[17:45] <Endafy> I love how everyone assumes its my fault the OS has issues
[17:45] <Endafy> its pathetic that you cant release a stable working OS anymore
[17:46] <Draxelis> chrome and skype doesnt work on ubuntu 13.04
[17:46] <maykr___> can anyone please help me setting up ubuntu on raid0?
[17:46] <carpenoctem> Anyone know the best way to add a path to @INC perl script (cgi)?
[17:46] <maykr___> i've been trying for 2 hours now
[17:46] <h00k> !details | Draxelis
[17:47] <maykr___> would somebody please assist me in installing ubuntu 12.04 on raid0?
[17:48] <syntroPi> hmmm damn out of a sudden my new Xorg behaves very unstable on raring...
[17:48] <nullby7e> 13.044444 day
[17:48] <vasilije_> hi, i upgraded to 13.04 and now i have problem with skype it wont starts : Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:48] <Draxelis> h00k, google chrome cannot be installed on 13.04. Also, skype crashes ;/ I'm sure everyone has the same issues
[17:48] <Draxelis> vasilije_,  same here man
[17:49] <Draxelis> chrome doesnt work too
[17:49] <trism> Draxelis: the google-chrome problem is fixed in the dev channel release
[17:49] <Jamira40> Hello can someone help me with SQUASHFS error i tried 12.04 Desktop AMD64 also latest 13.04 AMD64, Booted over USB stick yes i try use another USB stick and still same error, And yes i tried another hard drive
[17:49]  * PoolShark_ is syncing the 13.04 mirror now... ETA 9 days on his 1.5mbit DSL line
[17:49] <Draxelis> trism,  upcoming chrome release?
[17:50] <wmp> KERNEL: 3.8.0-19 BROKEN AUDIO, dont install them
[17:50] <trism> Draxelis: well, it is out now in the dev channel, it probably won't make it to stable for a while
[17:51] <trism> Draxelis: http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[17:51] <Draxelis> trism,  installing libudev0 should solve this issue, isnt it?
[17:51] <trism> Draxelis: though https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002 indicates they are working on merging it into the stable channel quickly, so you may just want to wait
[17:51] <maykr___> Someone...please help me setting up ubuntu on raid0
[17:52] <trism> Draxelis: yes you can do that to workaround the issue as well
[17:52] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[17:52] <maykr___> how do I completely zero my hard drive?
[17:52] <maykr___> like, delete absolutely everything?
[17:52] <rainbowwarrior> hello , can someone recommend a decent firewall for Ubuntu 13.04 that will show ips instead of using UF please ?
[17:53] <Draxelis> trism,  won't installing libudev0 cause any problems with future chrome releases?
[17:53] <ezra-s> maykr___, cat /dev/null > device
[17:53] <trism> Draxelis: shouldn't
[17:53] <carpenoctem> key thing to remember about raid in ubuntu is that in fstab you shoudl use the UUID and not the name
[17:53] <Draxelis> ok thank you
[17:53] <varikonniemi> why on earth did ubuntu change the software center icon to an Apple capital letter
[17:53] <maykr___> ezra-s: no output. does that mean it has already been erased?
[17:54] <varikonniemi> apple store could use that icon
[17:54] <apm1> .isitout
[17:54] <Sarger001> Yay! 13.04 is out, it it faster than Unity 2D on Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:54] <apm1> !isitout
[17:54] <ezra-s> maykr___, that 0's all the hard disk, it should take some time I believe, depends on the size of the disk, oh a with "device" I mean the disk you want to zero not the word "device"
[17:55] <maykr___> ezra-s: oh lol i was typing in "device"
[17:55] <trism> Draxelis: as it is their fix just creates a symlink to libudev1 in /opt/google/chrome named libudev.so.0 and the package deps on libudev0 or libudev1
[17:55] <Sarger001> And also is 13.04 a great release?
[17:55] <ezra-s> maykr___, no wonder it went so fast
[17:55] <rainbowwarrior> !firewall
[17:55] <Sarger001> And do i have to install it from a disk, or can i use the update manager to get it?
[17:55] <ezra-s> maykr___, example cat /dev/null > /dev/sda1
[17:55] <ezra-s> maykr___, example cat /dev/null > /dev/sda
[17:56] <ezra-s> sorry, misspeled
[17:56] <michagogo> Sarger001: To upgrade from 12.10, sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:56] <ezra-s> first option would just zero a partition
[17:57] <maykr___> ezra-s: problem is: my devices go by /dev/mapper/ or something
[17:57] <Sarger001_> And, is there a torrent DL for 13.04 or only direct?
[17:57] <ezra-s> maykr___, whatever your device is, /dev/mapper means probably your disk is encrypted or under lvm
[17:58] <ezra-s> maykr___, when you do that make also sure you are not zeroing the disk you have used to boot your pc on
[17:59] <michael> tweak
[18:02] <CarlFK> what is an app to browse what fonts are installed ?
[18:03] <ezra-s> CarlFK, font viewer
[18:03] <chop1n> CarlFK, there is also xfontsel
[18:04] <ezra-s> CarlFK, press the windows key and type fon
[18:04] <ezra-s> it will show up in the dash
[18:05] <CarlFK> ezra-s: I am ssh-ed in. what command does the win key run?
[18:05] <CarlFK> I have x forwarding working.. xfontsel may be fine
[18:06] <ezra-s> CarlFK, this is ubuntu channel, I assumed you had ubuntu loaded with unity
[18:06] <CarlFK> ezra-s: I have 2 boxes, both ubuntu.  sshed from one to the other.  lots of ubuntu!  :)
[18:07] <ezra-s> CarlFK, hehehe
[18:07] <adrenalink> how can I stop server X?
[18:07] <ezra-s> CarlFK, you can look for all applications available which are graphical in: /usr/share/applications
[18:10] <ubuntu> siddh
[18:10] <Hilarie> Is there an easy way to destroy a bunch of directories but transfer there content into one directory? I.E. Parent Directory filled with a bunch of folders, 1 large file each
[18:11] <Guest90082> how to download rediffbol messanger
[18:11] <Guest90082> hi
[18:11] <zgr> hello i got misaligned partition error parted output: Number Start End Size File system Name Flags 1 17.4kB 3001GB 3001GB btrfs; Fastest way to fix that? I've done a backup but rewriting 500GB of data is time consuming
[18:13] <CarlFK> Hilarie: use the find  somedir  --exec cp {} .  (I think...)
[18:13] <maheanuu> good morning, after spending almost the entire day trying to get information on how to get online with my Asus TF700 I am still batting zero
[18:14] <CarlFK> Hilarie: find will.. find files, --exec will execute some command on them.. hmm, the command should be mv,   and you need \; at the end of the command ... been a while, but seems like the right way
[18:14] <maheanuu> I need to know why I cannot go any further than my modem using my tablet?
[18:14] <Draxelis> now this sucks bad.. basically never had problems with chrome, however, after installing 13.04 chrome couldnt be installed. After figuring out how to install chrome.. now it synced everything except extensions.
[18:15] <Hilarie> CarlFK so something like find *.* --exec mv * ../ ?
[18:15] <adamsmeat> i got win 8 installed on my pc. and then just today, i added ubuntu. for some reason, the familiar grub is not showing
[18:15] <adamsmeat> windows just autoboots
[18:15] <CarlFK> Hilarie: man find.  the first parameter is the dir you want it to start at.  it will recurse
[18:16] <Hilarie> Alrighty, Thank you Carlfk
[18:16] <adamsmeat> maybe i did something wrong with installation. I did not choose install alongside windows 8. I did manual partition
[18:16] <CarlFK> Hilarie: and it is going to do the --exec thing for each file (oh, and dir...)  replacing {} with the name of the file/dir
[18:17] <maykr___> would anyone please help me install ubuntu?
[18:17] <CarlFK> Hilarie: to get rid of the dir... find /somedir/  -type f --exec mv {} /targetdir/   \;
[18:17] <Hilarie> CarlFK Thank you for helping me organize my Movies :)
[18:17] <maheanuu> Is there an xchat for working on tablets and other android/linux type equipments
[18:18] <wdonkey> me again !!!
[18:18] <subthalamus> pulseaudio no longer plays stuff through my speakers after upgrade to quantal
[18:18] <subthalamus> does pa log somewhere?
[18:18] <ramos> hello. Any anyone here resolved the issue with Brasero being able to burn ISO images without getting errors?
[18:18] <wdonkey> question about swap space. i have swapspace dedicated for my win8 os, will i need to create some more for ubuntu ??
[18:19] <CarlFK> wdonkey: yes.
[18:19] <wdonkey> that suck
[18:20] <CarlFK> wdonkey: unless win can now use a unix swap partition - guessing win still uses the .. um.. soemthing file
[18:20] <LorenzoMoney> that is why i quit years ago
[18:20] <LorenzoMoney> ooops wrong windows sorry
[18:21] <wdonkey> CarlFK:  what would you do. i've got a 24g SSD with 6gb used for win8 swapspace, the rest is free, and i have a 500gb 5400rpm HDD with win8 on 190gb and a d:/ partition of 260gb for files
[18:21] <wdonkey> i want to do a fresh ubuntu nstall
[18:21] <maheanuu> I am off to Papeete for 3 weeks of hospital and control  and am trying to get an Asus TF700 up and running to have some means of communicating and getting info while there,  I really need some help and could use some pointers on the tablet  I realize that this is the Ubuntu Xchat, but if anyone here might know what I need or can point me to the proper xchat page I would appreciate it
[18:22] <CarlFK> wdonkey: "I" have no use for windows, so I would dump it ;/
[18:22] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, Is their any common cause recently which makes all tabs say "The connection to the server was reset"
[18:22] <wdonkey> same for me, but its the gf's PC and she just might want to keep windows arround
[18:23] <Pici> maheanuu: If you're not asking about your Ubuntu install, then maybe ##hardware or ##windows would a better place?
[18:23] <ramos> Is anyone here using Brasero to burn ISO Images to DVD?
[18:23] <CarlFK> wdonkey: you might be able to get linux to use the win swap file.  but that seems risky.  I guess just dedicate some of your ssd to swap, and some of your HD too.
[18:24] <maheanuu> Pici,It's a Android Device, and I do NOT run any version of windoze on anything I own
[18:24] <wdonkey> would you install the swapspace along with ubuntu on the SSD and have the /home folder on the HDD ?
[18:24] <varikonniemi> does flash come with chromium in ubuntu repos?
[18:24] <varikonniemi> somehow i have flash even though i did not install it. i thought only chrome had it bundled not chromium
[18:24] <CarlFK> wdonkey: if you are running win, you prolly have lots of ram, like 4+gig.  good chance you don't really need any swap for linux
[18:24] <h00k> varikonniemi: no, but flash is bundled with Chrome/Chromium, built into the browser.
[18:25] <wdonkey> got like 6 gb of ram
[18:25] <wdonkey> just trying to figure out the best partition scheme for that situation
[18:26] <CarlFK> wdonkey: it depends on what apps, how many, what you do with them..
[18:26] <varikonniemi> h00k, all pages say only chrome has it bundled, not chromium
[18:26] <CarlFK> wdonkey: most likely anything you do will work just fine :)
[18:27] <wdonkey> most hardcore thing might be watching a movie or playing with pictures on gimp
[18:27] <h00k> varikonniemi: oh, maybe I'm wrong, but I know Chrome does.
[18:28] <Pici> maheanuu: Then #android
[18:28] <varikonniemi> oh wait
[18:28] <wdonkey> thanks for your help CarlFK
[18:28] <tor_> is there any news regarding ATI graphic drives. notting is showing up in software and updates
[18:28] <varikonniemi> restricted extras included it :P
[18:28] <talsamon> fine...upgrade aborted, can't start....grrrrr
[18:30] <tor_> *drivers
[18:30] <talsamon> no, short after start of installing
[18:31] <plustax> I have a question guys. I have an old computer here and trying to put 12.04 on it. I want it to take up the entire harddrive. Im in the installation and im at installation type where I can define partitions. I have /dev/sda with no type mp format size or used, then below it is free space of 80 gigs. When I try to install over 80 gigs it says no root
[18:31] <talsamon> but it's except the time no problem, i've burned a cd and make a new install
[18:32] <plustax> how do i set this up for install? I changed mount point to / and it says I need swap. Can anyone walk me through how to properly set this up?
[18:32] <torva> I am trying to install Google Chrome but I get the error "Dependency is not satisfiable: libudev0 (>= 147)" on the brand new install of Ubuntu
[18:33] <ezoe> I noticed I have both gcc-4.6 and gcc-4.7. I was using Ubuntu since 10.10, Can I safely remove 4.6?
[18:35] <hazardous> hi, i am trying to reinstall ubuntu and delete leftover lvm partitions
[18:35] <hazardous> there's a 999gb partition marked 'lvm'
[18:35] <hazardous> that i can't delete and i can't figure out how to delete trhe lvm vg's either
[18:35] <hazardous> in manual partition mode atm
[18:36] <tor_> plustax: delete the old partition so the whole disk is free. then make a ext4 partition that is set to be root folder: '/' but leave the size 5gig less than the whole disk. then make a swap partition on the laft 5 gig space
[18:36] <Hilarie> Okay, I have a folder, that appears to be empty, both via gui, and via commandline, ls shows nothing, but du -h shows 80 something MB, any way to find out what it is?
[18:37] <Hilarie> Hilarie nvm, find showed me a file that started with a .
[18:37] <michagogo> Hilarie: I assume you used ls -la, correct?
[18:37] <Addle> Hilarie: Probably hidden files (with a . prepended)
[18:37] <torva> Hilarie: Enable the showing of hidden files
[18:37] <torva> haha
[18:37] <tor_> Hilarie: ctrl + h
[18:38] <hazardous> ok i ahve no idea how to do this blargh
[18:38] <Addle> Hilarie: Like michagogo said, the -a option to ls will show them. From a GUI, depends on the file manager.
[18:38] <Hilarie> ls -a will show hidden?
[18:38] <michagogo> yes
[18:38] <torva> hazardous: Try booting from the Ubuntu LiveCD and using the "gParted" partition editor to make the required changes to the partition. This is generally more fully-featured than the partitioner found in the Ubuntu installer
[18:39] <michagogo> Been seeding the new release desktop ISOs for ~4 hours, ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso uploaded 341 MB
[18:39] <maykr___> would anyone please help me partitioning my disks?
[18:39] <talsamon> first start crash of libmenu_cache
[18:39] <michagogo> And -1386.iso uploaded 308 MB
[18:39] <torva> !ask | maykr___
[18:39] <michagogo> s/1/i/
[18:40] <maykr___> would someone please help me partition my disk? i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04.2 amd64 on my desktop computer and I need to know which partitions I need to create and how to use raid0...
[18:41] <torva> maykr___: you need to set up RAID in advance before installing Ubuntu
[18:41] <torva> maykr___: RAID isn't part of Ubuntu, it's configured most likely through the BIOS of your motherboard
[18:41] <maykr___> torva: it is fakeraid
[18:42] <torva> maykr___: Ah I don't know then. Sometimes that requires a specific implementation within Windows
[18:42] <maykr___> torva: i have both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[18:42] <rhinux> Hi! my update-manager under 12.10 only show a linux-source-3.5.0 update to install, no check button doI have to DL this 85MB package before I will be able to upgrade to 13.04?
[18:42] <torva> maykr___: I don't know enough to help you with specifics, unfortunately, I've never configured a RAID system on the desktop
[18:42] <maykr___> :/
[18:42] <Draxelis> why werent skype and chrome bugs fixed while the OS was in beta?
[18:43] <tor_> maykr___: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[18:43] <Draxelis> stuff doesnt work :/
[18:43] <torva> Draxelis: Nobody knows
[18:43] <torva> Draxelis: Can't install Chrome?
[18:43] <maykr___> tor_: i wanted to have separate partitions for /var, /tmp, /home, etc...
[18:44] <Draxelis> torva,  managed to install chrome by manually installing libudev0 however, chrome is 'crippled' - it doesnt sync extensions
[18:44] <tor_> maykr___: in a software raid?
[18:44] <maykr___> tor_: yes
[18:45] <tor_> maykr___:  it is out of my knowledge, but the link should give you some hints
[18:45] <rhinux> @draxelis http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-skype-in-ubuntu.html
[18:46] <talsamon> grub is damaged
[18:46] <torva> Draxelis: Just advise people to avoid a fresh Ubuntu 13.04 installation until someone gets around to fixing?
[18:46] <Draxelis> rhinux,  yes, I solved it.
[18:46] <tor_> maykr___:  the easiest would be to set up ubuntu on a regular disk and then have raid for the rest
[18:46] <tor_> maykr___:  the easiest would be to set up ubuntu on a regular disk and then have raid for the res
[18:46] <Draxelis> Yea, I normally do fresh install as soon as ubuntu is released.. but it's not a good idea:) must resist upgrading:)
[18:48] <tor_> maykr___:  if you dont have hardware (motherboard or controller) that support raid i doubt it is much to it
[18:48] <ares_> Dependency is not satisfiable: libasound2 (>= 1.0.23)
[18:48] <aressz> how to fix this one?
[18:49] <l337n1nj4> Hi people!
[18:49] <willows_> hi 1337n1nj4
[18:49] <aressz> Dependency is not satisfiable: libasound2 (>= 1.0.23) how to fix this problem?
[18:49] <l337n1nj4> :-)
[18:50] <tor_> maykr___:  if you have raid set up pre installation it is a breeze to make dedicated partition for the mentioned folders if you setup partitions manually
[18:50] <gianluca_> ciao ragazzi ma che bello è?
[18:50] <gianluca_> dwdwdwdw
[18:50] <gianluca_> dw
[18:50] <Pici> !it | gianluca_
[18:51] <torva> aressz: What are you trying to do?
[18:51] <rhinux> @draxelis perhaps we should wait until 13.04.1 even we want to know all new :)
[18:51] <aressz> install skype :D
[18:51] <aressz> I need  a package libasound2
[18:51] <l337n1nj4> OK, so does anyone know how to change the size of the Dash search? In 12.10 I could change it using the Ubuntu Tweak Tool, but the Unity Tweak Tool doesn't have that option...
[18:51] <aressz> is newest on is 2.1 ?
[18:51] <torva> Who is in charge of ubottu? Can we set up !skype and !chrome ?
[18:51] <aressz> one*
[18:52] <starbuck> where can i see on which serial port my usb devises are mounted
[18:52] <SevenBizzos> Does 13.04 have plug and play support for quad monitors?
[18:52] <aressz> torva: yes, you can use chrome,skype on linux :D
[18:53] <Noounix> "ping 127.0.0.1 -t -l 9999" try :D
[18:53] <l337n1nj4> Anyone?
[18:53] <aressz> hmm
[18:53] <DJones> !skype | torva Do you mean like this one?
[18:53] <subthalamus> why would aplay -l not list any soundcards?
[18:53] <djzn> hi anyone here having issues with ATI HD 3200 or similar, slow performance and animation under 13.04 with OSS radeon driver?
[18:54] <aressz> why I always have problems with sound on ubuntu. On Linux mint I never had something like this :D
[18:54] <aressz> djzn you need to update drivers amd.com
[18:54] <djzn> aressz did you just read what I said
[18:54] <aressz> djzn did you downloaded them from amd.com ?
[18:54] <djzn> read again my first sentence
[18:55] <aressz> OSS drivers  I guess it's default drivers
[18:55] <djzn> 'radeon' driver
[18:55] <djzn> works pretty good
[18:55] <aressz> you need drivers from amd.com I have had same problem.
[18:55] <djzn> radeon is perfect for 3xxx
[18:55] <djzn> but not in 13.04
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !enter > djzn
[18:56] <aressz> have no idea
[18:56] <aressz> deb http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ lucid main
[18:56] <kalle9982> I have a question about LVS-NAT in active/active mode; does it matter which lvs-server gets which return packet?
[18:57] <hazardous> torva: ended up figuring out an easier way, going to guided partitioning and letting it wipe all of my LVMs and MDs then going back to manual
[18:57] <aressz> I hate ubuntu since 11 version
[18:57] <djzn> hazardous, are you going to partition the old way ?
[18:57] <aressz> :|
[18:57] <torva> aressz: cool, there are loads of alternatives you can use instead
[18:58] <aressz> Yes, for me Linux mint is the best cuz it never gives me any problems
[18:58] <aressz> have got any problems yet with it
[18:58] <aressz> haven't
[18:59] <torva> ok aressz. Did you know today is a release day and this channel is rather busy?
[18:59] <aressz> No
[18:59] <hazardous> djzn: what is partition the old way
[18:59] <djzn> hazardous, you said you wiped lvm
[19:00] <hazardous> djzn: oh no, the dc installed ubuntu for me and fucked it up terribly with overlapping vm's and weird stuff
[19:00] <hazardous> lvms
[19:00] <hazardous>  i just wanted to kill all partition tables and redo it
[19:00] <h00k> hazardous: please watch the language and keep it family friendly
[19:00] <Tm_T> hazardous: language, please
[19:00] <hazardous> ah
[19:05] <spotter> keyboard-configuration seems broken in 13.04
[19:06] <spotter> hangs when trying to configure (connected via ssh)
[19:09] <tb01110100> Can an Ubuntu image be written w/ dd? I'm on Arch Linux but would like to try 13.04.
[19:09] <tb01110100> To a USB key?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> tb01110100, Yes
[19:09] <tb01110100> Cool, thanks.
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> iso or install
[19:10] <spotter> looks like ubuntu screwed up 13.04 for servers that are admined via ssh
[19:10] <spotter> :(
[19:10] <sonOfRa> How do I actually close a chat client like pidgin in 13.04? If I close it, and someone messages me, it pops up again in the messaging tab
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  file > quit (or exit)
[19:11] <Parhs8> hi
[19:12] <olegb> spotter: how ?
[19:12] <sonOfRa> huh. is it not possible to properly close it just via closing the window, or hitting "Quit" in the sidebar?
[19:12] <sonOfRa> that's REALLY annoying :S
[19:13] <fdsdf> http://bit.ly/17Y47h2  what do you think of this anti ubuntu
[19:13] <rdm> Will ubuntu ever work?
[19:13] <arayaq> sonOfRa: tell that to skype users :P
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> rdm  never, not supposed to
[19:13] <rdm> k, then I'll stop trying
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> rdm  what's the issue?
[19:14] <rdm> It always detects errors, GPU Hang up or something, asks me to report it. Then it does it again about 60 seconds later
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> rdm  that's apparmor, you can disable it
[19:15] <rdm> k I'll try that
[19:15] <rdm> thanks
[19:15] <SevenBizzos> Does 13.04 work with triple or quad monitors out of the box like windows???
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> SevenBizzos  multi monitors is a pain in linux at large
[19:15] <jnl_> I have 3 monitors working with full accel across two 9800GTXs with the proprietary nvidia driver and base mosaic
[19:15] <SevenBizzos> Monkeydust: I know, but someone claimed it was plug and play in 13.04 on the forums...
[19:15] <jnl_> and it took some tweaking so it depends I guess is the answer
[19:15] <SevenBizzos> Monkeydust: so I was hoping they fixed it to be like windows
[19:16] <rdm> yeah, disabling that didn't work
[19:16] <jnl_> isn't that supposed to be part of xrandr 1.4?
[19:17] <georgelappies> anybody getting random unity / compiz freeze ups in 13.04?
[19:17] <SevenBizzos> hmm.. i didnt want to tweak just wanted to plug, and play :( was thinking they would have fixed it by now
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> georgelappies, The channel works with you presenting your problems. ;)
[19:17] <shagoyjo> I've aliased my NIC to a second IP on the same subnet using "ip addr add ip.add.ress.here/24 brd brd.add.ress.here dev eth1:0", but the alias isn't accepting incoming traffic. Any ideas?
[19:18] <jnl_> well its typically up to the drivers
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> Is the following sudoers entry forwarded correctly? %groupname ALL=NOPASSWD: awk, cat, chkconfig, chmod
[19:18] <SevenBizzos> jnl_: so its not that hard once you have the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[19:18] <jnl_> what cards do you have?
[19:19] <Hello9> Hello :)
[19:19] <Hello9> Wanted to share a new programming forum: http://thedevshed.net/forum/
[19:19] <tb01110100> My browser isn't auto-downloading the ISO. Can I please have a direct link to the disk images?
[19:19] <Hello9> Feel free to join :)
[19:19] <h00k> !spam | Hello9
[19:19] <SevenBizzos> jnl_: I havent bought the hardware yet, in fact I was waiting for an Ubuntu that supports quad out of the box
[19:19] <jnl_> ohhh
[19:19] <odt> hi, how does one use grub-reboot "item" so that it actually does boot the "item" on next reboot command?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> Hello9  #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[19:19] <h00k> How do we not have a spam factoid.
[19:19] <jnl_> well if you get new enough nvidia cards yes it will work
[19:19] <h00k> Anyway, Hello9, do not spam.
[19:19] <psyrus> the ubuntu 13.04 is only transfering @ about 17 kbs a second.. anyone else having d/l problems?
[19:19] <SevenBizzos> jnl_: ok thank you, I will do that
[19:19] <jnl_> look for nvidia-xconfig with --base-mosaic
[19:20] <Hello9> whoops7
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> psyrus  servers may be busy
[19:20] <jnl_> you have to tell it GPU inputs and resolutions and arrangement but its not real hard and then it just all works
[19:20] <jnl_> outputs I mean
[19:20] <OerHeks> psyrus use torrent
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> psyrus: torrent might work better this close to the release.
[19:20] <SevenBizzos> so I have to make a custom xorg.conf file??
[19:20] <jnl_> no the nvidia-xconfig will do it for you
[19:20] <tb01110100> My browser isn't auto-downloading the ISO. Can I please have a direct link to the disk images?
[19:20] <psyrus> jhutchins_wk:  torrent link ?
[19:21] <SevenBizzos> ok
[19:21] <SevenBizzos> thanks
[19:21] <tb01110100> Oh wait.
[19:21] <tb01110100> nm
[19:21] <jnl_> no problem
[19:21] <michagogo> !torrents
[19:21] <psyrus> thanks
[19:21] <CarlFK> is there a barcode font I can apt-get?
[19:22] <OerHeks> !info barcode
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> odt, There is an app or from the command line here is a ppa for the app, use at your own risk. https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8
[19:22] <CarlFK> I found http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/texlive-fonts-extra   "barcodes -- Fonts for making barcodes."  but I don' t think that is a normal system font
[19:22] <Neozonz|Disc> how big should swap size be for a 256MB Ram server?
[19:22] <CarlFK> OerHeks: that doesn't seem to be a font
[19:23] <CarlFK> Neozonz|Disc: go with the default unless you need something special
[19:23] <Neozonz|Disc> CarlFK, I got out of memory when compiling
[19:24] <Neozonz|Disc> so I bumped it to 1GB for swap.. yet my actual ram is at 256mb
[19:24] <CarlFK> Neozonz|Disc: that is special :) although I am kinda surprised.  compiling doesn't normally need gobs of memory.
[19:24] <Neozonz|Disc> apparently compiling litecoin does...
[19:25] <Neozonz|Disc> it keeps crapping out too and I got no idea why because there are no status logs
[19:25] <Neozonz|Disc> unless I dont know where to look
[19:26] <stn0521_> is anybody der?
[19:26] <stn0521_> yuhuu
[19:27] <CarlFK> Neozonz|Disc: make sure you are only using thread.  no clue how.  but using all the cpu cores takes more memory
[19:27] <SuperLag> if you're creating a launcher for an app, and you need to specify an argument before the binary you want to run on the Exec= line, what's the proper syntax for that?
[19:27] <Neozonz|Disc> I'm using 4 threads?
[19:27] <psyrus_> thanks again for the torrent, its downloading much better. one quick question, i am just gunna leave about 150 gig of unalocated space and this ubuntu 13.04 distro will confiure the partitions all for me w/o overwriting windows correct?
[19:28] <stn0521_> is it possible to make a lan messenger system to ubuntu units with a windows 7 admin?
[19:28] <SuperLag> I want to add LD_LIBRARY_PATH before the path to the binary I'm trying to launch
[19:28] <stn0521_> is it possible to make a lan messenger system to ubuntu units with a windows 7 admin?
[19:28] <CarlFK> Neozonz|Disc: each thread will use a wad of memory.
[19:28] <stn0521_> is it possible to make a lan messenger system to ubuntu units with a windows 7 admin?
[19:28] <trism> SuperLag: if you need to set environment variables, you are better off making a script and using that on the Exec= line
[19:28] <Neozonz|Disc> CarlFK, anywhere i can check for a previous compile log?
[19:28] <stn0521_> is it possible to make a lan messenger system to ubuntu units with a windows 7 admin?
[19:28] <SuperLag> trism: Okay. Fair enough. That's how I do it for another app. :)
[19:29] <CarlFK> Neozonz|Disc: I think you need to pipe it to a file
[19:29] <schultza> is there a way to get an icon on the desktop (~/home/user/Desktop) that points to a samba share!?
[19:29] <Walex> schultza: points in what way?
[19:30] <schultza> im dealing with windows users who like to click on a folder to open a samba share... i need them to be able to do just that, but have it open up the samba share
[19:30] <schultza> ..but they are on linux
[19:31] <Ciasteczko|NeO> 10 on 10 med off
[19:31] <schultza> ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with unity as their gui
[19:31] <Walex> schultza: in theory in GNU/Linux systes one mounts shares before opening them... So you probably want an automounter like 'autofs' or 'am-utils'.
[19:32] <Ciasteczko|NeO> autofs
[19:32] <talsamon> grub only write cryptic sign on start, i can't get in the single-modus......
[19:32] <ezoe> after upgrading, Ubuntu 13.04's nvidia-current points to nvidia-304. but it looks like nvidia-310 is the "proprietary, tested" one. I wonder why it use 304.
[19:32] <Walex> schultza: then you just put the path to the samba share in the desktop item.
[19:32] <psyrus_> um... anyways, ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso finished dnloading, is the right disc image ? i want the desktop 64 bit
[19:32] <xraixed> Where can I locate ﻿the Ubuntu 12.04 boot screen so I can disconfigure ....please
[19:32] <talsamon> but normal start works
[19:32] <schultza> i cant see how to do that.
[19:32] <trism> psyrus_: the desktop image would be -desktop-amd64, -server is the server image
[19:32] <schultza> all i have is create folder, or create document.
[19:33] <Walex> schultza: some desktop environments have the ability to access remote mounts directly, but then ordinary programs cannot access them.
[19:33] <odt> how do i set the default kernel without having boottime access to grub (no keyboard), bios is UEFI and "ubuntu" item seems to have been chosen there
[19:33] <odt> ive tried 5 times to boot raring with an older kernel and not the latest one
[19:33] <Walex> schultza: you want to create a link, often it is enough to drag-and-drop the the desktop; or you just create a document '.desktop' file and then edit it to contain the path you want.
[19:33] <odt> comes up with 3.8.0-19 every time
[19:34] <schultza> ok.. thank you .. i will try those options
[19:34] <Walex> schultza: '.desktop' files are just text files with a set of fields describing them.
[19:34] <guntbert> psy
[19:34] <Walex> schultza: alternatively just create a symbolic link in '~/Desktop/'
[19:34] <maykr> hey..i just managed to install ubuntu but now it wont load. when i try to boot ubuntu, some sort of vertical red-orage line pattern appears on the screen and nothing happens
[19:35] <schultza> i tried that symbolic link.. it gave me an error stating it needed a locally addressed file for sym links
[19:35] <schultza> drag drop didnt work, it wants to copy and then tells me, it's not a directory
[19:35] <the_kick> can anyone help, i cant upgrade 3.4.2 nautilus to 3.6
[19:36] <the_kick> im using the correct PPA, but im using elementary OS, i thought id ask here seeing as its ubuntu under the hood
[19:36] <psyrus> !torrent
[19:36]  * schultza is looking up .desktop files
[19:36] <psyrus> ubottu ubuntu 13.04 desktop torrent
[19:36] <maykr> do i have to repeat my question? :/
[19:37] <carrera> Hi Everyone! :)
[19:37] <Walex> schultza: of course it needs a locally addressed file. But when you use an automounted like 'autofs' or 'am-utils' it will mount the Samba share and the symlink will point at a "local" file.
[19:37] <carrera> was 13.04 released today?
[19:37] <maykr> hey..i just managed to install ubuntu but now it wont load. when i try to boot ubuntu, some sort of vertical red-orage line pattern appears on the screen and nothing happens
[19:37] <Walex> schultza: you can create symlinks that point to files that don't exist yet.
[19:38] <willows> carrera: yes
[19:38] <psyrus> can someone tell me the ubuntu 13.04 desktop torrent again?
[19:38] <carpenoctem> just plugged an external usb in, but it's not showing up with df... any ideas?
[19:38] <carrera> willows, thanks!
[19:38] <Walex> maykr: that sounds like an unsupported graphics chip. Try to boot into "safe" mode or "text" mode.
[19:38] <maykr> Walex: how?
[19:38] <carrera> willows, and I guess just like xubuntu, it won't fit on a CD anymore
[19:39] <michagogo> !torrents | psyrus
[19:39] <michagogo> psyrus: Want the magnet link?
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> psyrus, Go to ubuntu main site and find alternative downloads
[19:39] <willows> carrera: I'm not sure about that.
[19:39] <michagogo> If so, x64 or x86?
[19:39] <guntbert> maykr: repeating every 10 minutes or so is ok
[19:39] <notNicolas> Is it possible to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 cleanly? using xubuntu
[19:40] <michagogo> notNicolas: If it's like Ubuntu, sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:40] <Walex> maykr: there is some documentation on boot options on the Ubuntu Wiki.
[19:40] <sc30317> hey all
[19:40] <sc30317> qq
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> psyrus, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[19:40] <psyrus> okay i think i got it this time, thanks again
[19:40] <sc30317> I upgraded to 13.04, and now my desktop isn't showing
[19:40] <notNicolas> michagogo, nice, I didn't know that command existed. thanks.
[19:40] <sc30317> the unity bar is there
[19:40] <sc30317> but no desktop
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> sc30317, nvidia graphics?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> sc30317, What do you mean by no desktop exactly?
[19:41] <sc30317> wilee-nilee, yes nvidia
[19:41] <sc30317> no desktop as in no desktop background, no icons, etc
[19:41] <ezoe> weird, restart Ubuntu 13.04 fails to boot by kernel panic. shotdown and boot has no problem so far.
[19:42] <Endafy> mmkay I got it working with net install
[19:42] <Endafy> where is the multiple desktops
[19:42] <Endafy> why do you insist on killing features people use?
[19:42] <syntroPi> sc30317, do you have gdm or lightdm on "service lightdm restart"?
[19:43] <willows> Endafy: do you mean multiple workspaces?
[19:43] <Endafy> willows, whatever you call it, its gone
[19:43] <sc30317> syntroPi, I think I have lightdm
[19:43] <SuperLag> trism: Any idea why the launcher puts the item in an "Other" category on my Applications Menu? I'm running the Xubuntu flavor. Here's the launcher config:
[19:43] <trism> Endafy: System Settings/Appearance/Behavior/Enable workspaces
[19:43] <guntbert> Endafy: "we" don't isist on anything, except on keeping polite :-) we are volunteers for the community
[19:43] <syntroPi> sc30317, and that does display itself?
[19:43] <DJones> Endafy: System Settings, Appearance, Enable workspaces & tick the box
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> Endafy, This is a support channel, no one here is part of any decisions.
[19:43] <sc30317> syntroPi, yes
[19:43] <SuperLag> trism: http://pastie.org/7720476
[19:44] <Endafy> wilee-nilee, well they should be
[19:44] <Endafy> thanks for the tup DJones
[19:44] <notNicolas> hmm says Not all updates can be installed
[19:45] <notNicolas> with the options "partial upgrades" and "continue"
[19:45] <guntbert> Endafy: as wilee-nilee said: this is a support-channel - bug reports go elswhere
[19:45] <notNicolas> what's the difference between those two options?
[19:45] <maykr> hey..i just managed to install ubuntu but now it wont load. when i try to boot ubuntu, some sort of vertical red line pattern appears on the screen and nothing happens. the ubuntu logo doesnt appear either...tapping shift or esc repeatedly doesnt open boot mode
[19:45] <syntroPi> sc30317, weird i had similar problem before and for me even lightdm wouldnt bring up a display. even restart didnt help but poweroff and clean boot did...
[19:45] <maykr> recovery mode*
[19:45] <sc30317> syntroPi, maybe a Nvidia driver reinstall would help
[19:45] <trism> SuperLag: might not recognize Internet as a category, the firefox.desktop has Network and WebBrowser (not sure which would be more appriopriate for yours)
[19:46] <syntroPi> sc30317, i didnt test it on bare hw yet, just in vbox. your problem occured after nvidia-current?
[19:46] <SuperLag> trism: I guess I'll have to make a closer comparison between something that does show up on the Internet menu, and this one :)
[19:46] <sc30317> syntroPi, not sure
[19:46] <trism> SuperLag: indeed
[19:47] <SuperLag> trism: thank you for your help, sir. Much appreciated.
[19:47] <syntroPi> sc30317, have looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg?
[19:48] <ezoe> In Ubuntu 13.04. rebooting guarantees kernel panic on boot. shutdown then boot works fine.
[19:48] <SuperLag> trism: yeah, that did the trick.
[19:48] <SuperLag> ezoe: that isn't the case for everyone, otherwise it would be well-heard, I'm sure :)
[19:48] <p0wn3d> They removed the ability to import openvpn connection information in 13.04
[19:49] <syntroPi> ezoe, i did notice similar behaviour here. .. any insights to why this is happening?
[19:49] <ezoe> I don't know. the only proprietary driver I'm using is nvidia.
[19:49] <georgelappies>  is anybody else experiencing 'ugly' non -anti aliased fonts in QtCreater / UbuntuSDK or any Qt5 based apps in Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:49] <the1nfamous> k
[19:50] <p0wn3d> The fonts have changed in 13.04 thats for sure
[19:51] <SuperLag> This is just my $.02... but I find Linux, in general, to look at lot better if you install the package with the MS core TrueType fonts in it.
[19:51] <ezoe> I wonder when Ubuntu let me set font preference. default setting prefers Chinese fonts over Japanese fonts.
[19:51] <SuperLag> and by "a lot", I should say... a ***LOT***
[19:52] <ezoe> so I have to put .fonts.conf in my home directory.
[19:52] <UserError1> anyone here familiar with apt-build?
[19:52] <Guest17642> ubuntu tweak updated :O
[19:52] <SuperLag> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[19:52] <SuperLag> that's the package name
[19:53] <SuperLag> trism: are you an Ubuntu dev, or just a benevolent soul? (both?) :)
[19:53] <SuperLag> the way I worded that, they sound mutually exclusive... which is certainly NOT the case :)
[19:54] <chigypt> I'm trying to Download Ubuntu 13.04 but I still get Ubuntu 12.04
[19:54] <chigypt> Please help!!
[19:55] <MacGab> hello
[19:55] <trism> SuperLag: just an ubuntu user
[19:55] <Pici> chigypt: How are you trying to download it?
[19:56] <syntroPi> chigypt, choose from those here http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[19:56] <chigypt> Pici: I have tried to download it from the Ubuntu official website
[19:56] <SuperLag> chigypt: your mileage may vary, but I generally download linux ISO files from http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/13.04/
[19:56] <SuperLag> the kernel mirrors are often very fast
[19:57] <syntroPi> chigypt, basically it doesnt matter where you get it from when you verify its integrity with a checksum like sha1 or md5 to match with the official releases
[19:58] <mzaza> How can I update my installation to 13.04 when I wrote sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I got a message that my system is up-to-date
[19:59] <notNicolas> mzaza, sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:59] <mzaza> notNicolas: thanks :)
[19:59] <clempe> i've installed skype but it don't disyplay the skype icon in the tray
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> clempe  there's this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/microsoft-ask-ubuntu-to-remove-skype-icon-from-system?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
[20:01] <syntroPi> thats ridiculous
[20:03] <clempe> MonkeyDust: lol thx
[20:04] <schultza> the .desktop worked, thansk
[20:04] <schultza> er.. thanks
[20:06] <aFeijo> lol, I just installed 13.04, rebooted and it wont open the taskbar/launcher ? how to fix it
[20:06] <fluo75> Hi, my Gnome-Ubuntu 13.04  AMD64  installation CD does not work on my brand new PC, blank screen once i have choosen an option and then nothing... Therefore, the live CD, test CD etc... does not work at all. Any ideas?
[20:07] <syntroPi> fluo75, try nomodeset boot parameter (f2 and then f6 or such i think)
[20:07] <belgianguy> hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 since this afternoon, and now my Unity is all greyed out except for the 'Files' icon, but the other icons still work
[20:07] <belgianguy> http://i.imgur.com/7CBhYuu.png
[20:07] <subthalamus> pulseaudio no longer plays stuff through my speakers after upgrade to quantal
[20:08] <syntroPi> fluo75, f2 right after the cd gets accessed
[20:08]  * subthalamus cries
[20:08] <syntroPi> subthalamus, try fixing it with alsamixer on a terminal
[20:08] <subthalamus> hda_intel module is loaded though which should be correct module for 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
[20:09] <subthalamus> syntroPi: aplay -l shows no soundcard though?
[20:09] <subthalamus> syntroPi: what should I do with alsamixer?
[20:09] <schultza> 13.04 officially released!?
[20:09] <Draxelis> when will be chrome compatible with 13.04 released?
[20:09] <mbeierl> Ubuntu 12.10: what is the package to get the java plugin for firefox?  aptitude search java doesn't show anything that looks relevant
[20:10] <belgianguy> schultza: yeah
[20:10] <syntroPi> subthalamus, humm well maybe the problem lays below that then? alsa or even the hardware drivers?
[20:10] <subthalamus> syntroPi: technically, this is headless so I only have terminal
[20:10] <adamsmeat> i choosed wrongly the boot loader installation device and therefore not getting grub. now im loading through live cd and doing boot repair
[20:10] <codepython777> how do i tell ubuntu to enforce file system quota on a particular user?
[20:10] <subthalamus> syntroPi: or x2go
[20:10] <h00k> mbeierl: check out icedtea-plugin, that may help with what you're looking for
[20:10] <codepython777> I want him to use only 10GB at most
[20:11] <mbeierl> h00k, is iced tea stable enough to use now?  Thanks
[20:11] <adamsmeat> how do i address thiss: Please enable a repository containing the [grub2] packages in the software sources of Ubuntu 13.04 (sda8). Then try again.
[20:11] <h00k> mbeierl: works for me, your mileage may vary ;)
[20:11] <Aww> is it worth it to 'upgrade' from 12.04 -> 13.04?
[20:11] <syntroPi> subthalamus, do you remember which hw / kernel module is used? maybe lspci or lsusb can indicate which kernel module to modprobe? then it also should leave you a msg in dmesg
[20:11] <subthalamus> syntroPi: hmm, yea, alsamixer says HDA Intel is maxed out on volume
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> Aww, YOU have to go through 12.10
[20:11] <Aww> Yeah I know
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> Aww  read some review, first
[20:12] <Draxelis> don't upgrade. there're problems, wait couple weeks
[20:12] <Aww> Okay, I think waiting will be the best as well
[20:12] <syntroPi> subthalamus, hda intel is only the interface to the actual sound chip. eg here i have hda intel -> realtek -> analog out
[20:13] <subthalamus> Aww: doooo iiiiit
[20:13] <Draxelis> chrome is crippled on 13.04
[20:13] <Aww> I only want to upgrade for Unity 7
[20:13] <schultza> how is it crippled?
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Draxelis  use chromium-browser instead
[20:13] <chigypt> SuperLag: Thanks, i have tried to use your Link and looks Good.
[20:13] <centooos> hi, when i was run " java -jar toonel.jar" it say these error and does not work "main dispatcher Initializing pools...
[20:13] <centooos> main dispatcher Obtaining socket connection (port 8080)..."    i dont know why this happen:(
[20:14] <delinquentme> so I've got a ssh key that I'd like to lock down to prevent anyone but root from viewing it ... whats the easiest way to do this?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> centooos  in centos?
[20:14] <adamsmeat> im stuck with this: Please enable a repository containing the [grub2] packages in the software sources of Ubuntu 13.04 (sda8). Then try again. please help
[20:14] <Draxelis> libudev0 is required to install chrome. If you manage to install chrome, extensions don't sync
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> Draxelis  use chromium-browser instead
[20:14] <jnl_> or chrome dev channel I just installed that.
[20:14] <centooos> MonkeyDust, no now i m using at ubuntu
[20:14] <Draxelis> MonkeyDust,  will do
[20:14] <chigypt> Is there any body who knows the specifications or list of smart phones which may accept Ubuntu Touch excluding NEXUS devices.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> !touch | chigypt
[20:15] <Draxelis> when is stable chrome coming that is compatible with 13.04?
[20:15] <Draxelis> when is stable chrome coming that is compatible with 13.04?
[20:16] <Draxelis> it's in dev channel
[20:16] <adamsmeat> giving up
[20:16] <Draxelis> how long does it take to be stable?
[20:16] <subthalamus> syntroPi: I'm tryin but... http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:2668/
[20:16] <subthalamus> that is the chip
[20:17] <jnl_> you'd have to ask google I think about chrome updates
[20:17] <schultza> Draxelis, I just sent you a pm about a link that may help your issue.
[20:17] <Amoz> Is there a way to upgrade ubuntu server from an ISO/Usb-stick?
[20:17] <zer0rootkid> hello can somebody explain me whay after a period of time my bactrack crash all system is freeze
[20:17] <centooos> MonkeyDust, i add 8.8.8.8 dns to resolv.conf but it s not the solution!!
[20:17] <guntbert> !backtrack | zer0rootkid
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> zer0rootkid  type /join #backtrack-linux to find out
[20:20] <syntroPi> subthalamus, yeah but isnt that one only the interface of the intel chipset to the real soundchip (for example a realtek one)? here i have snd_hda_codec snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_hdmi   for a realtek adc dac and nvidia hdmi sound
[20:20] <syntroPi> modules
[20:21] <LinuxSupahFly> Did something change between 12.10 and 13.04 with regard to how APT repositories are handled?
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> LinuxSupahFly  no
[20:22] <LinuxSupahFly> Interesting...
[20:22] <subthalamus> syntroPi: me too actually http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602256/
[20:23]  * subthalamus confused
[20:23] <centooos>  MonkeyDust, could'nt help me ?
[20:23] <LinuxSupahFly> I'm having problems with the Minecraft Overviewer APT repository since upgrading to 13.04.
[20:23] <sliddjur> How can I improve CPU usage on ubuntu guest on virtual box? it uses ~70% cpu idle. win7 64bit host.
[20:23] <LinuxSupahFly> I logged a thread in the forums if anybody is curious: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285553/upgrading-to-ringtail-13-04-broke-some-apt-repositories
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> centooos  i was away... with what?
[20:23] <belgianguy> any idea how this is possible  ? http://i.imgur.com/7CBhYuu.png
[20:24] <belgianguy> it's greyed out almost my whole Unity
[20:24] <belgianguy> 13.04
[20:24] <centooos> whith this:      when i was run " java -jar toonel.jar" it say these error and does not work "main dispatcher Initializing pools...MonkeyDust
[20:24] <syntroPi> subthalamus, hmm and alsamixer doesnt show your realtek chip?
[20:24] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[20:25] <GeorgeJ> Is BTRFS stable enough in 13.04 to use as a root fs?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> centooos  i'm no help with java, sorry
[20:25] <syntroPi> subthalamus, maybe look at dmesg | grep hda
[20:25] <subthalamus> syntroPi: not unless I'm using it wrong
[20:25] <centooos> ok
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeJ  people who use it have visited the channel and they iked it, i myself know just the basics
[20:25] <syntroPi> subthalamus, try switching with f6
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> liked*
[20:26] <LinuxSupahFly> belgianguy - try the unityreset - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:26] <syntroPi> subthalamus, also f2 and then cards
[20:26] <subthalamus> syntroPi: yea, there is "HDA intel" and "default"
[20:26] <GeorgeJ> MonkeyDust: I see, you use it yourself?
[20:27] <subthalamus> syntroPi: f2 tells me it is on irq 41
[20:27] <subthalamus> ack
[20:27] <belgianguy> LinuxSupahFly: ah, thanks, will try that
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeJ  no, though I should try it, it seems easier for mirroring and partitioning and the lot
[20:28] <syntroPi> subthalamus, what about the last one f2 pcm
[20:28] <subthalamus> syntroPi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602273/
[20:28] <syntroPi> subthalamus, uummm "hda_codec: cannot build controls for #0 (error -16)"
[20:28] <GeorgeJ> MonkeyDust: Tbh, I don't care much for the deduping/mirroring. All I care about is snapshotting!
[20:28] <subthalamus> syntroPi: urm, it says "/proc/asound/pcm"
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeJ  backup, give btrfs a try and write about your findings
[20:29] <syntroPi> subthalamus, seems it wouldnt see the sound dac   when you select that pcm and press enter it wouldnt list it right?
[20:29] <maykr_> hey..how do i edit  /etc/default/grub  from livecd?
[20:30] <subthalamus> syntroPi: I cannot seem to select it, no
[20:30] <Dr_willis> mount the installed system. and edit the file as root maykr_
[20:30] <maykr_> how do i mount the installed system? >.>
[20:30] <iorweth> How do I uppgrade from daily build to the realese?
[20:30] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | maykr_
[20:30] <Dr_willis> iorweth,  just do a normal update/upgrade
[20:31] <iorweth> okey, thanks Dr_willis
[20:32] <maykr_> dr_willis: how do i mount the installed system?
[20:32] <Dr_willis> !mount | maykr_
[20:32] <maykr_> thanks
[20:32] <ethang> hey guys - just upgraded kubuntu to 13.04 and my desktop is a blank black screen with a mouse pointer that moves but the buttons do nothing.  any ideas?
[20:32] <subthalamus> syntroPi: I found the error -16 a couple places, are you sure that is the issue?
[20:32] <Dr_willis> the boot-repair tool can fix most grub issues maykr_
[20:33] <subthalamus> syntroPi: (online I mean)
[20:33] <__CodingNinja> hello all
[20:33] <maykr_> Dr_willis: i need to add nomodeset
[20:34] <syntroPi> subthalamus, sorry im not really sure how i can help you. i would try to find out which sound dac you are using and look which kernel module is for that. im not sure but i think the intel hda codec should look like this "[    5.442315] hda_codec: ALC889A: BIOS auto-probing."
[20:34] <Dr_willis> maykr_,  you can do that from the grub menu directly for a one time use.. then edit the file from your normal system
[20:35] <Dr_willis> maykr_,  so  what you are trying to do - is most likely unneeded.
[20:35] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[20:35] <maykr_> Dr_willis: the recovery mode doesnt work... when i keep rpessing esc, the screen just toggles black and purple
[20:35] <Dr_willis> maykr_,  do you SEE the grub menu? you enter the info THere..
[20:35] <syntroPi> subthalamus, if you have an older working linux you always can look which hda modules were loaded with it
[20:35] <maykr_> Dr_willis: no I dont see the grub menu
[20:35] <Dr_willis> maykr_,  then you are going about this totally the wrong/hard way
[20:36] <__CodingNinja> I've updated to 13.04, everything works except one thing
[20:36] <Dr_willis> maykr_,  hold the SHIFT key when you boot to see grub.
[20:36] <eperrichard> can somebody help me???
[20:36] <Dr_willis> maykr_,  then use 'e' to edit the kernel boot line and make a change like 'quiet splash' to become 'quiet nomodeset splash'
[20:36] <maykr_> Dr_willis: i also did that to no avail
[20:36] <h00k> eperrichard: go ahead and ask a question
[20:37] <h00k> eperrichard: if someone knows, they will jump in and try to help you
[20:37] <maykr_> gosh
[20:37] <maykr_> !grub
[20:37] <Dr_willis> that boot-repair tool might also let you select the default options.
[20:38] <__CodingNinja> some help please? -> audio via hdmi use to work in 12.10 (geforce 210) after upgrade it does not appear in the sound settings
[20:40] <Kircle> In 13.04 the top panel uses blurring. Will the launcher every use blurring too?
[20:42] <ssfdre38> im trying to set up L2TPServer on my VPN and i know openVPN works but i keep on getting failed checks http://images.ssfdre38.net/?v=FndZ6.png but i dont know why as im following the support docs
[20:43] <arik79> list
[20:43] <Dr_willis> !list > arik79
[20:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:43] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!  I just barely installed 13.04, life is good, except that my wacom mouse has stopped clicking.  I can use the pen, and I can move the mouse, but clicks don't do anything when using the mouse on the tablet.  Any ideas?
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> josePHPagoda: Check your System Settings > Wacom Tablet
[20:46] <josePHPagoda> SonikkuAmerica: I did
[20:46] <josePHPagoda> all seems well there
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Anyone planning on fixing the horrendously miserable Wacom tablet calibration program? After every 2nd tap, "Misclick detected, restarting..."
[20:47] <josePHPagoda> I don't see anything there related to the mouse though
[20:47] <josePHPagoda> only the pen, which seems to be fine
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> josePHPagoda: What kind of Wacom tablet is this?
[20:47] <josePHPagoda> intuos 4 I believe
[20:47] <subthalamus> syntroPi: thanks for trying to help
[20:48] <gustav> Can I just upgrade to Raring or should I make a backup? Is it dangerous?
[20:48] <Dr_willis> gustav,  always have backups
[20:48] <josePHPagoda> SonikkuAmerica: scrolling does work from the mouse though
[20:48] <gustav> Alright.
[20:48] <Dr_willis> power failure during upgradeing... can be very bad
[20:48] <josePHPagoda> gustav: I've never heard anyone be upset about having a backup and not needing it
[20:49] <josePHPagoda> but I've heard plenty of people who were upset from not having a backup when they did need it :)
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> gustav  backup is always a good idea, upgrade or not
[20:49] <reokie> gutav: And always have backups OF your backups
[20:49] <ssfdre38> can anyone help with L2TPServer setup?
[20:49] <Dr_willis> and backup  your backup  backups... ;P
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  #ubuntu-server
[20:50] <dank101> 13.04 IS OUT BRAH
[20:50] <dank101> guys
[20:50] <dank101> i just wanna know
[20:50] <macwolf74> Dr_willis, backup your backups backups backup
[20:51] <dank101> what is the fastest way to install 13.04
[20:51] <johnjohn101> will ubuntu gnome 13.04 be supported for gnome 3.8?
[20:51] <macwolf74> no
[20:51] <macwolf74> it has gnome 3.6 default afaik
[20:52] <dank101> anyone?
[20:52] <litropy> I have a headless box. I ping ubuntu.com continually to be updated real-time as to my network statistics. Is there a better way via CLI?
[20:52] <macwolf74> dank101, I'd say clean install
[20:52] <mega1> can i bulk add users to a group with passwords from a csv file
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> johnjohn101  there's a PPA for 3.8
[20:53] <johnjohn101> yeah i saw. I may check it out but didn't know if i install 3.8 if it then becomes unsupported
[20:53] <Walex> litropy: 'smokeping' for example
[20:53] <aPpYe> I notice that the latest mini.iso is not listed on the site.  However, I found this:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso    ... Its date is April 19, so is this a beta image or is it the final release of raring mini.iso?
[20:56] <litropy> Walex, interesting. Does it have live CLI functionality? I'm kinda frugal with my system resources, so having a browser tab open isn't out of the question, but it's still undesirable.
[20:57] <aPpYe> so to condense the question, is the mini.iso located at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso the final release version of Raring Ringtail 13.04?
[20:57] <aPpYe> I guess that doesn't condense it that much...
[20:58] <ericab> can someone in plain english tell me what this means:      if [ ! -z $foo ] ;
[20:58] <aPpYe> ericab, that looks incomplete to me...
[20:58] <Stameni> hello, i have just installed 13.04, change graphic drivers to nvidia proprietary (tested) and unity crashed upon reboot
[20:59] <Stameni> what should i do now ?
[20:59] <ericab> aPpYe yes i know, but what does it mean sofar
[20:59] <ericab> i mean, *as is*
[20:59] <h00k> ericab: you will likely have good luck in #bash
[20:59] <meerkat> Eric12, it means if $foo is not empty
[20:59] <ericab> thanks meerkat
[20:59] <mega1> can i bulk add users to a group with passwords from a csv file
[20:59] <h00k> ericab: if the variable $foo is non-zero
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> Stameni, Use the repos drivers, kernel updates will brick thosew
[20:59] <aPpYe> meerkat, that is complete as is?
[20:59] <meerkat> h00k, isn't it non-zero in length?
[21:00] <Stameni> wilee-nilee, i used additional drivers option
[21:00] <h00k> meerkat: probably
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> Stameni, Ah, proprietary means directly from nvidia.
[21:00] <ericab> meerkat so you basically, if the ariable is defined yes ?
[21:00] <ericab> variable*
[21:01] <Stameni> wilee-nilee,  it was written proprietary in the breckets
[21:01] <dingle> hello, i am trying to run skype. it loads and everything but the main screen is transparent. what would cause this?
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Stameni, Cool, just making sure is all, to get help though give the channel details on the crash, not me. ;)
[21:01] <dingle> in the taskbar i can right click on it and use it but the other window is just transparent
[21:01] <litropy> ericab, yes. Like h00k said, you're going to find a chan chock-full of people to help you in #bash
[21:02] <litropy> ericab, but they'll know you're a noob right away, so be patient and don't get offended.
[21:02] <subcool> Ok- im at a loss. Something happen to one of my laptops. When ever i try to run anything outside of a terminal, it crashses. Most program i try to begin using a terminal also crash occasionally
[21:02] <dingle> subcool: are you closing the terminal after you launch the program?
[21:03] <subcool> dingle- no its nothing like that
[21:04] <Eric12> meerkat?
[21:04] <subcool> If i try to run anything, xchat, firefox, chrome, anything- they will begin to start. THen crash. - I have tried to use terminal to open the same programs, and they crash as well - no error messages are viewable.
[21:04] <meerkat> Eric12, uh, yes
[21:05] <Eric12> you highlighted me earlier
[21:05] <Eric12> [16:59:22] <meerkat>	 Eric12, it means if $foo is not empty
[21:05] <litropy> subcool, anything interesting in dmesg?
[21:05] <Stameni> so now there is no unity and i just see few ikons on the desktop, how to run software-update now and change to noveau driver again ?
[21:05] <meerkat> Eric12, oh, wrong eric, then. :)
[21:05] <subcool> litropy, i havent viewed it yet.
[21:06] <johnjohn101> that story makes me not want to get nvidia card for my system. following along now
[21:06] <litropy> subcool, I'd boot up, run dmesg, run a prog, wait for it to crash, then run dmesg again and see what changed.
[21:06] <dank101> my laptop really doesn't want to burn raring
[21:06] <litropy> subcool, I think there are other logs you can check, but I don't know them off-hand
[21:07] <subcool> litropy, ok- ill give it a whirl now.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> dank101, Really does it tell you in your dreams or straightup. ;)
[21:07] <sdrhrgjkng> I get some mess of dependencies when trying to install wine on someones computer: http://pastebin.com/Lq7KBMRa (apologies for the german, i dont understand it either, but its the same stuff you usally get with aptitude) Why is this, and what can I do to fix it, as when they tried installing it before it broke x and i had to fix it.
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> sdrhrgjkng, Have you tried playonlinux it is a bit easier
[21:08] <dank101> wilee-nilee, it's no reading the disk in startup creator
[21:08] <dank101> >:(
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> sdrhrgjkng: And why aptitude vs. apt-get?
[21:08] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, don't use aptitude; use apt-get
[21:08] <onr> first impression: ubuntu has the slowest gui in the world
[21:08] <sdrhrgjkng> wilee-nilee: same problem with play on linux, it pulls in wine
[21:09] <Dr_willis> onr,  and your video card/drivers are what?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> dank101, Have you checked the sum? try another loader like unetbootin or there are many others.
[21:09] <sdrhrgjkng> SonikkuAmerica: because apt-get wine broke it in the first place and aptitude seems to warn me before it does that
[21:09] <dank101> wilee-nilee, it's a dvd
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> sdrhrgjkng: What about [ sudo apt-get -f install ]?
[21:09] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, I doubt it was apt-get that broke it.
[21:10] <onr> Dr_willis: oldish nvidia. installing drivers right now
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> sdrhrgjkng: with no packages that it
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> *is
[21:10] <onr> also, do you know where aptitude is?
[21:10] <sdrhrgjkng> here is the output from apt-get install wine: http://pastebin.com/FpJjvPWf
[21:10] <crude_slick> finally, a network that pwns ICQ
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> dank101, You need an iso
[21:10] <dank101> wilee-nilee, You don't say, i have one
[21:11] <sdrhrgjkng> SonikkuAmerica: nothing to be installed if i do that
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> dank101, Doesn't the startup creator load usb only and with a ISO?
[21:11] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, apt-get output looks kosher.
[21:12] <dank101> wilee-nilee, thats my problem
[21:12] <ethang> I can't get the lspci output into the browser
[21:12] <sdrhrgjkng> litropy: should I give it a go or will it break x again? why is aptitude crying?
[21:12] <ethang> !
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> dank101, Has to be an official canonical release as well.
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ethang: Use Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from a terminal.
[21:12] <dank101> wilee-nilee, i know
[21:12] <ethang> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ethang: Oh wait, you're in a tty
[21:13] <onr> Dr_willis: gui works nice after driver update :)
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> ethang: Or konsole?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> dank101, What ever your actual problem is I cannot tell from your communications, nor did you answer whether you summed the iso.
[21:13] <Dr_willis> onr,  unity/compiz wants 3d drivers for the eyecandy
[21:13] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, you can try it. I can't really see what's going on with aptitude. My German stinks.
[21:13] <tekk> hi guys, what kernel version does stock 13.04 ship with? i'm curious as to whether the various patches for tg3 network support (required by 2012 Apple products) has been included officially now
[21:13] <dank101> wilee-nilee, it's not detecting it in the disk creator, the ISO is ok, i'm doing it wrong :P
[21:14] <onr> Dr_willis: is gnome3 also pre-installed?
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> dank101, Cool sounds like you understand. ;)
[21:14] <Dr_willis> onr,  unity uses gnome3 base
[21:14] <Dr_willis> !unity
[21:14] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, it looks like you have some package conflicts that may be resolved. Try apt-get and see if it gives you options.
[21:16] <tekk> i mean 13.04 of course
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> 3.8.0-17-gen/lowl I think
[21:17] <blazemore> tekk: 3.8.0-19-generic is the result of uname -r
[21:17] <h00k> !netsplit
[21:17] <sdrhrgjkng> Why am i getting cannot send to channel... can anyone read this?
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> blazemore: Ahh.
[21:17] <sdrhrgjkng> ah now it works :D
[21:17] <johnjohn101> is there a table that links the ubuntu kernel name with the real linux kernel release?
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> sdrhrgjkng: You're fine... we had a net split
[21:17] <preetam> unity is not working properly after upgrading to 13.04
[21:17] <Guest3780> Hi All, Please can someone let me know How to resolve the follwoing issue: I can sign into ubuntu one on the ubuntu one website, but I cannot sign into the application on ubuntu pc(12.04 LTS) and the unbuntu one application version is 3
[21:17] <tekk> thanks
[21:18] <blazemore> preetam: You should be more specific
[21:18] <ethang> hello?
[21:18] <petey_> is it possible to have a usergroup and user with the same name?
[21:18] <ethang> ok there we go
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ethang: You're there.
[21:18] <petey_> i think i did that, when i type in 'groups' sudo and my name comes up
[21:18] <johnjohn101> 3.8.0-19-generic = what kernel that other systems would know?
[21:18] <tekk> can someone run "lsmod | grep tg3" on 13.04
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ethang: Are you still on Kubuntu?
[21:18] <blazemore> petey_: Yes, in fact, that is the default behaviour in Ubuntu
[21:18] <sdrhrgjkng> litropy: do you mean apt-get install wine? i google translated the pastebin btw: http://pastebin.com/YWGMp95m
 unity side bar is not appearing.so i have to use GNOM
[21:18] <ethang> paste.ubuntu.com/5602409
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> (GNOM NOM NOM)
[21:19] <ethang> SonikkuAmerica: yes, I barely survived the netsplit
[21:19] <petey_> blazemore:oh okay so that isn't a problem?
[21:19] <Guest3780> I have tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the application and dependancies
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> preetam: It's not appearing? System Settings > Appearance, Behavio(u)r tab...
[21:19] <blazemore> petey_: I didn't say it isn't a problem
[21:19] <petey_> oh okay so how do i go about making things right lol
[21:19] <blazemore> I don't know, sorry
[21:20] <petey_> ah okay thanks
[21:20] <petey_> that's fine
[21:20] <blazemore> Can you access a terminal and stuff?
[21:20] <blazemore> You're not completely locked out?
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> ethang: Let's go back to #kubuntu.
[21:21] <ethang> ok
[21:21] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, please paste Terminal output for: uname -a
[21:21] <onr> Dr_willis: there used to be a way to start session with classic gnome in login screen. how to do that in 13.04?
[21:21] <blazemore> petey_: Try resetting your Unity settings to default using the instructions on this third-party website http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[21:21] <tekk> blaze more, you running 13.04 somewhere ?
[21:22] <blazemore> tekk: Yes, on the laptop I'm currently typing on
[21:22] <preetam> SonikkuAmerica: how to access system setting if nothing is appaering in the desktop
[21:22] <SonikkuAmerica> preetam: Hit Ctrl+Alt+T and type [ gnome-control-center ]
[21:23] <tekk> blademore, can you quickly run  "lsmod | grep tg3"
[21:23] <tekk> i just wanna see if the kernel includes a decent version of tg3 (Broadcom NeXtreme) now
[21:23] <tekk> as I have 16 Late 2012 Mac Mini's which currently have a custom Spin of 12.04 running on them that i'd like to upgrade
[21:24] <blazemore> tekk: Wouldn't that only show it if it's loaded on my system?
[21:24] <tekk> good point
[21:24] <tekk> hmm
[21:24] <Guest66338> help for install ati radeon hd 4850 on ubuntu 12.04 anyone?
[21:24] <petey_> cool thanks alot blazemore
[21:24] <tekk> modinfo tg3
[21:24] <tekk> in pastebin ? :)
[21:25] <blazemore> tekk: Yeah looks like you're golden :)
[21:25] <subcool> litropy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602436
[21:25] <twobitsprite> hey, I'm trying to connect to a Cisco VPN with NetworkManager... I have the network-manager-openconnect package installed, but I don't see it in the list of VPN types when I try to create a new VPN connection the the NM config window
[21:25] <blazemore> tekk: Version 3.128
[21:25] <sdrhrgjkng> litropy: Linux teresa-thinkpad 3.5.0-27-generic #46~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 26 19:33:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:25] <tekk> i know its a pain, but any chance you could paste full output :P i wanna take a look at PCI sigs
[21:25] <blazemore> Sure one sec
[21:25] <tekk> 3.128 sounds good though
[21:26] <tekk> as I run 3.124c (latest available on broadcom directly)
[21:26] <tekk> and that works with Mac Mini late 2012
[21:26] <tekk> for sanity i wonder what 12.04 out the box has....
[21:26] <Guest66338> alguem ajuda com instalação de driver de video????
[21:26] <blazemore> tekk: http://rory.sh/tg3.txt
[21:26] <tekk> cheers
[21:27] <blazemore> tekk: I hope that means more to you than it does to me
[21:28] <tekk> i'm about 90% sure now that 13.04 will practically work out of the box on a Late 2012 Mac Mini (like to check before jumping in as I only have headless access) ;)
[21:28] <blazemore> Good luck with it tekk
[21:28] <Guest66338> ?
[21:28] <tekk> i wish canonical put on release notes for Mac support updates... every release I basically have to trawl through lots of random places to find changes
[21:28] <tekk> you know if 13.04 supports EFI installer now ?
[21:29] <blazemore> tekk: You could update the wiki page for Macs
[21:29] <blazemore> tekk: I'm sorry, I don't know
[21:29] <tekk> yeah i might
[21:29] <Fishscene> Wasn't there a Mac edition of the Ubuntu installation ISO?
[21:29] <tekk> as i run 16 Mac Mini's in a production environment all running Ubuntu
[21:29] <tekk> so i'm quite versed with the pro's/con's
[21:29] <tekk> Fishscene, there still is... but its not what you'd imagine exactly
[21:29] <johnjohn101> why did you convert 16 macminis?
[21:30] <tekk> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/raring-server-amd64+mac.iso
[21:30] <Fishscene> tekk: Do you have any resources/blogs on that? I run a lab of 30 macbooks and we've been having some challenges (granted they're 5 years old...)
[21:30] <blazemore> This is an interesting discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:30] <tekk> johnjohn101, what I need them for sadly isn't supported in OS X
[21:30] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, it sounds like you need the 64-bit wine package, which has been the problem all along.
[21:30] <tekk> Fishscene, my blog http://mike.kz has a post regarding latest Mac Mini in a datacenter environment with drivers etc
[21:30] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, not exactly sure, though
[21:31] <Fishscene> Thanks mate. I'll trawl through it looking for hints and insight into my own ubuntu lab.
[21:31] <tekk> i'm still having a few niggly issues which I didn't document with USB device performance and reliability and kernel stability under BIOS emulation... (thus why wanting to use EFI)
[21:31] <alejandro_> I need help whit ubuntu studio
[21:31] <mega1> can i bulk add users to a group with passwords from a csv file
[21:31] <blazemore> !ask alejandro_
[21:31] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[21:31] <blazemore> !ask | alejandro_
[21:31] <litropy> sdrhrgjkng, so, it looks like you have a choice there
[21:32] <samijam> !patience
[21:32] <johnjohn101> tekk: nice blog.
[21:32] <samijam> !patiencewithgirlfriends
[21:32] <SonikkuAmerica> samijam: Oh?
[21:32] <samijam> worth a try
[21:32] <tekk> thanks :)
[21:33] <maykr_> hey...i'm trying to ssh into my vps but it has key auth. i am using the following command: "ssh user@host -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa". ssh then asks for the passphrase for the key, but when I type it in, it asks me do it over and over again. until i leave the field blank, it outputs the error "permission denied (publickey)"
[21:34] <blazemore> maykr_: You are typing the passphrase for the key wrong
[21:34] <maykr_> i'm 100% sure i am not
[21:34] <blazemore> you shouldn't have do do -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[21:34] <blazemore> can you paste the output of ssh -vvv user@host -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:34] <blazemore> maykr_: ^
[21:35] <subcool> Anyone know why my programs wuold be crashing?
[21:35] <__CodingNinja> guys I need help??
[21:35] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602436
[21:36] <blazemore> !ask | __CodingNinja
[21:36] <maykr_> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602473/
[21:36] <blazemore> maykr_: How did you generate that key?
[21:36] <litropy> subcool, hmmm you've got segfaults
[21:37] <subcool> litropy, thats what those are? -
[21:37] <__CodingNinja> ok basically, updated from 12.10 to 13.04 and my HDMI sound no longer works, it is not listed in sound settings. nvidia 210
[21:37] <maykr_> blazemore: i copied it over from my vps ~/.ssh/ directory
[21:37] <subcool> litropy, so whats that mean for me?
[21:37] <blazemore> maykr_: Thats not how it works maykr_
[21:37] <maykr_> wait, no I'm wrong
[21:38] <__CodingNinja> this is annoying because it must be a regression bug
[21:38] <blazemore> It looks like it was generated in Putty at one point
[21:38] <maykr_> blazemore: actually was id_rsa.ppk and it used to work with putty.
[21:38] <maykr_> yes. exactly
[21:38] <blazemore> Yes, openssh isn't Putty
[21:38] <maykr_> i thought it would work, lol.
[21:38] <blazemore> Do you have password access to the server?
[21:38] <__CodingNinja> any ideas?
[21:39] <blazemore> maykr_: run "ssh-keygen" and follow the prompts. Defaults are fine
[21:39] <blazemore> maykr_: Then run "ssh-copy-id user@host" and put in the password (the login password for user, not the passphrase for the ssh key)
[21:39] <blazemore> maykr_: From then on it will work
[21:40] <__CodingNinja> should I file a bug report?
[21:40] <litropy> subcool, not sure.
[21:40] <Dr_willis> __CodingNinja,  search existing bug reports first.
[21:41] <AlexLibman> I'm trying to help a friend with a messed up PowerBook G4.  It had MacOS 10.4, but she no longer has the install DVD.  It worked OK, then suddenly during boot the Apple logo turns to slashed-circle and it just hangs forever...
[21:41] <AlexLibman> Holding Cmnd-S doesn't get to a UNIX shell, just a repeating message which (I don't have it in front of me) suggests it can't mount the HDD.  So I tried to install Ubuntu raring on it...
[21:41] <AlexLibman> I tried the various options that yaboot suggests, but the screen goes blank a few seconds after trying to boot and stays that way (20+ minutes).  What should I try?
[21:42] <blazemore> AlexLibman: Can you boot from a live CD?
[21:42] <subcool> litropy, im not getting much on my google. search
[21:42] <litropy> subcool, I'm seeing what I can find ...
[21:42] <fdsdf> http://bit.ly/17Y47h2  what do you think of this anti ubuntu
[21:43] <mega1> can i bulk add users to a group
[21:43] <Fishscene> fdsdf: Could you post a real link, instead of a proxy?
[21:43] <subcool> litropy, nevermind- i just messaed up- appears i have a wifi issue.
[21:43] <ThatOneRoadie> Fishscene: NSFW, ban
[21:43] <AlexLibman> blazemore: no, like I said, none of the options suggested in yaboot (help or the list you get by pressing tab) would boot.
[21:43] <Fishscene> oh excellent. good thing I didn't click it.
[21:44] <AlexLibman> fdsdf's link is NSFW
[21:44] <fdsdf> Fishscene nop
[21:44] <tekk> blaze more, to update... i don't think 13.04 supports Ethernet on Mac Mini 2012 out the box... I diff'd the 2 outputs from 12.04-modified and 13.04 and checked the device ID's in lspci
[21:44] <ThatOneRoadie> /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@192.219.16.*
[21:44] <tekk> it seems 13.04 has added a lot more support, but is still missing: alias:          pci:v000014E4d00001686sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[21:44] <fdsdf> ban:P
[21:44] <AlexLibman> I'm banned from Ubuntu forums, but for a stupid reason...
[21:44] <alejandro_> hi
[21:44] <litropy> subcool, yes, I can see that you have a wifi issue, but that doesn't explain why your progs are crashing.
[21:45] <fdsdf> AlexLibman what did you do ?
[21:45] <litropy> subcool, did you mean to say that your progs can't connect?
[21:46] <alejandro_> how to connect a presonus usb over ubuntu studio?
[21:46] <litropy> subcool, I'm stumped if your progs are still crashing. Maybe someone else can help.
[21:46] <AlexLibman> Just presented my point of view that copyfree (permissive) software licensing is better, and that copyleft is a bad idea.
[21:46] <wisey> will I be able to install ubuntu on a PowerBook G4 where the system drive is a flash drive? Because my optical drive and hdd are broken.
[21:47] <subcool> litropy, its been like this for days. i think an update went bad..
[21:48] <AlexLibman> Anyway, is there anything else I can try to get 2013-04 PPC to boot on PowerBook G4?
[21:48] <SonikkuAmerica> AlexLibman: What's the problem?
[21:49] <AlexLibman> No matter what I choose in yaboot, after a couple of boot outboot lines the screen goes blank and it hangs forever.
[21:49] <AlexLibman> s/outboot/output/
[21:49] <subcool> Could someone help me with an issue i ran across. Aside from having Segment fautls on any program i run. My Wifi appears to be a mess.
[21:49] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602436
[21:50] <AlexLibman> (And advice on getting unbanned from the Ubuntu Forums would be nice also.  I can't but a System76 laptop forchristsakes because they do their support via those forums!
[21:50] <AlexLibman> )
[21:51] <AlexLibman> s/but/buy/
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> AlexLibman: Contact an Ubuntu Member maybe?
[21:51] <Dr_willis> I belive theres a #ubuntu-forums channel
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> That too...
[21:51] <Dr_willis> or make a new forum account?
[21:51] <johnjohn101> you got banned?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> Im rarely on the forums any more. I tend to hang on askubuntu.com
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm on both places, but rarely touch it b/c of IRC == fastttt
[21:53] <Dr_willis> i recall askubuntu.com having some sort of chat also.. but been ages sinc eive tried that
[21:53] <Dr_willis> I tend to just search askubuntu.com a lot. since its in the help lens's now
[21:54] <SonikkuAmerica> The things we can do with the lenses...
[21:54] <johnjohn101> i thought unity 7 was going to ship with 13.04.
[21:54] <twobitsprite> AlexLibman: you're getting segfaults on anything you run, and you think this isn't related to your wlan problems? I'd say something is royally messed up with either your ubuntu install or with your hardware
[21:55] <twobitsprite> er, sorry, that was for subcool
[21:55] <harris> what is the fastest way to download 13.04 iso
[21:55] <johnjohn101> harris: steal dvd from coworker!!
[21:56] <harris> im a kid
[21:56] <twobitsprite> harris: torrent
[21:56] <johnjohn101> probably bit torrent
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: torrent
[21:56] <Draxelis> this new nautilus seems slow, isnt it?
[21:56] <Dr_willis> torrents should be blazeing fast at this time
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Draxelis: Slow?
[21:56] <pr_confidential> I was wondering if anyone could help me find info on booting ubuntu off usb with no hd. Im watching you-tube tutorials that are older and they are using cd. Anyone want to help please :) ?
[21:56] <Draxelis> ye, sluggish comparing to the one on 12.10
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm seeding Ubuntu64, Kubuntu64, Xubuntu64 and Lubuntu86
[21:56] <Dr_willis> pr_confidential,  you mean a full install to usb flash? or a live setup?
[21:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Draxelis: What's your hardware?
[21:57] <Dr_willis> pr_confidential,  make the usb, set bios to boot from it.. boot.. if the hardware supports it
[21:57] <pr_confidential> just something to play around with. There is no hd in it at all.
[21:57] <Draxelis> SonikkuAmerica,  i3, 6gbram, radeon, ssd
[21:57] <pr_confidential> I was watching tutorials on cd with natty narwall / netbook remix
[21:57] <ggreer> I just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04, and now my dm-crypt password doesn't work :(
[21:58] <pr_confidential> a tutorial, sorry. Using cd
[21:58] <wizbam> is it possible to wget a file from google drive? i keep getting 500 internal server error
[21:58] <Draxelis> comparing to old version, the new nautilus seems slower. Is it just me?
[21:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Draxelis: Core 2 (64), 3 GB, GMA965, HDD... smooth as butter. I think it's just you.
[21:58] <tekk> IPV6 is pretty fast on Ubuntu 13.04
[21:58] <pr_confidential> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbbw6NvOCwU
[21:58] <Dr_willis> butter is smooth? ;)
[21:58] <tekk> if ipv4 is slow ;)
[21:58] <ggreer> so... I can't boot since I can't mount my main partition
[21:59] <Draxelis> SonikkuAmerica,  I mean it works fine. maybe the top button animations make it look slow, don't know :)
[21:59] <sc30317> what is the best way to install the nvidia drivers for ubuntu 13.04?
[21:59] <minas> the "monitor" program shows a device called "/dev/loop0", in directory "/tmp/tmpqyafyr", will total size 137 MB and 0 free. What is that? I didn't create it.
[21:59] <litropy> pr_confidential, does you BIOS give you the option of booting from USB?
[21:59] <pr_confidential> a second computer so I can learn more
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> sc30317: Additional Drivers
[21:59] <pr_confidential> yes it does.
[21:59] <ggreer> not much useful in the log. "Nokey available with this passphrase.
[21:59] <sc30317> SonikkuAmerica: which driver should I be installing
[21:59] <ggreer> cryptsetup: cryptsetup failed, bad password or options?
[21:59] <ggreer> that's it :/
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> sc30317: nvidia-current
[21:59] <sc30317> I installed 130.10 and it broke my system
[21:59] <sc30317> so reinstalling now
[21:59] <Dr{Wh0}> Q. trying to get MAAS and openstack going on 12.04 the maas-dhcp package seems to be very old for 12.04 it was my understanding that these packges were updated regularlry and back ported or what ever to 12.04
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> sc30317: 2130? Did I go back to the future? :)
[22:00] <AlexLibman> Dr_willis: thank you.  BTW, I was http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=691199 (the offending posts probably were deleted)
[22:00] <plustax> quick question. I have an old desktop here that i just installed ubuntu on. I plugged in my cisco wireless network adapter to usb and the internet doesnt seem to be working
[22:00] <harris> i clicked the download 13.04 and it isnt downloading as iso
[22:00] <pr_confidential> Is there a different way to install it from usb or will it react the same as if I were to install a disk? (netbook has no dvd)
[22:00] <plustax> anyone help me out?
[22:00] <alexa> Does anyone know any good text highlighter for firefox (that actually works) ?
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: ISO or torrent?
[22:00] <litropy> pr_confidential, then follow the standard instructions of creating an ubuntu liveusb, and boot with it, making sure USB is selected as the boot device in BIOS.
[22:00] <harris> is
[22:00] <harris> iso
[22:00] <ggreer> any clues? I googled around and couldn't find anything
[22:00] <AlexLibman> I always use my real name online, and I never sockpuppet (except as a satire on the very concept of sockpuppeting).
[22:00] <harris> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[22:00] <Fishscene> oy. 13.04 just hard crashed when running on ESXi 5.0 (not good, not good at all for stability)
[22:01] <litropy> pr_confidential, this guide looks fine. http://askubuntu.com/questions/89241/how-can-i-run-ubuntu-without-a-hard-drive
[22:01] <johnjohn101> Fishscene: yikes.
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: Firefox?
[22:01] <harris> chrome
[22:01] <Dr_willis> harris,  the torrents would be the fastest way to get the iso at this time.
[22:01] <Draxelis> does anyone use NOD32???
[22:01] <harris> where do i get the torrent
[22:02] <johnjohn101> what os are you running?
[22:02] <Dr_willis> !torrent
[22:02] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. topic dosent have a torrent url?
[22:02] <plustax> can anyone help me out?
[22:02] <Dr_willis> !download
[22:02] <Dr_willis> !torrents
[22:02] <harris> this one http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[22:02] <Dr_willis> if you want 32bit.. thats the one
[22:02] <harris> ok
[22:03] <plustax> quick question. I have an old desktop here that i just installed ubuntu on. I plugged in my cisco wireless network adapter to usb and the internet doesnt seem to be working
[22:03] <alexa> thank you guys for listening!
[22:03] <SonikkuAmerica> 64-bit is amd64, not i386, of course
[22:03] <antiroach> hi is it possible to get X to load both the intel video driver and the radeon driver at the same time?
[22:03] <maykr_> trying to install wine1.5 but can't...http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602559/
[22:03] <pr_confidential> ty litropy
[22:04] <litropy> plustax, do you see your adapter in ifconfig?
[22:04] <plustax> let me check
[22:04] <Dr{Wh0}> nm. I think i found it i need to enable "proposed" repo.
[22:06] <ggreer> ah problem solved
[22:06] <ggreer> the boot loader's keyboard layout was changed to qwerty
[22:07] <ggreer> but it used to be dvorak
[22:07] <ggreer> so my password didn't work because I was typing thinking it was dvorak
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> twobitsprite, A rescue cd and rerun updates, are you serious.
[22:15] <subcool> twobitsprite, i think i saw that in there.
[22:15] <chaos7theory> *.net *.split?
[22:15] <SonikkuAmerica> chaos7theory: It's a netsplit.
[22:15] <johnjohn1011> annoying
[22:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !netsplit
[22:15] <twobitsprite> subcool: from the rescue CD, chroot in to the root fs, then to "sudo aptitude -f upgrade" or something like that
[22:15] <subcool> wilee-nilee, lol - what? what else? im kinda limited..
[22:16] <iamafraid> SonikkuAmerica:  look i dont know i just installd 12.04 and i enterd Gufw and clicled to enable incoming beacuse it was desabled
[22:16] <subcool> lol - ya- something like that
[22:16] <twobitsprite> wilee-nilee: if you have better ideas....
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> iamafraid: OK, that's a good thing.
[22:16] <sc30317> SonikkuAmerica: did you say to install nvidia-310 or nvidia-313-updates?
[22:16] <harris> downloading the torrent
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> iamafraid: Normally, we don't run gufw because it's too strong...
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> sc30317: Try 313-updates first.
[22:16] <chaos7theory> Well, either way.. x-x'
[22:16] <blazemore> Can I disable compositing effects in Raring to get faster gaming performance, similar to doing "metacity --replace" in the old days?
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> twobitsprite, that is all bogus, don't just post to post.
[22:17] <plustax> litropy, its not in my ifconfig how do i get it working?
[22:17] <iamafraid> SonikkuAmerica: so defoult ip tables are on  even if i dont run gufw
[22:17] <sc30317> blazemore: of course!
[22:17] <harris> hey did the rolling updates pass
[22:17] <subcool> wilee-nilee, its ok.. im still taking ideas. SO what else do u suggest
[22:17] <sc30317> blazemore: why not just install a different WM/DE if you want better performance?
[22:17] <SonikkuAmerica> iamafraid: Unless you set it to block connections, yes.
[22:17] <litropy> plustax, what's the make and model of your card?
[22:18] <Archzombie> what image do I use for sprint galaxy nexus?
[22:18] <twobitsprite> wilee-nilee: I'm open to constructive feedback if you have any
[22:18] <chaos7theory> Does anyone have any experience in dual-booting with UEFI, let alone with Dell? The issue is that I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (since it's the most stable/supported at the moment, and may upgrade afterward) and when it goes to the partioning scheme menu, it doesn't detect any other OS. I could always do manual aprtitioning, but I'm relcutant since I'm afraid that means GRUB2 won't be able to detect Windows 8.
[22:18] <twobitsprite> subcool: check this out: http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/rescuing-an-interrupted-ubuntu-upgrade/
[22:18] <harris> Archzombie, ask in #ubuntu-touch
[22:18] <plustax> litropy, cisco ae2500
[22:18] <iamafraid> SonikkuAmerica:  so i can set it off
[22:18] <chaos7theory> I've researched on this for hours, and I've done a lot of the precedures like disabling Secure Boot, disabling Fast/Hybrid Startup, etc.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> subcool, I did not claim to have an answer, only that the advice was just bogus.
[22:19] <iamafraid> SonikkuAmerica:  i think thet was by defoult
[22:19] <harris>  did the rolling updates pass
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> iamafraid: The switch up top, set it to OFF.
[22:19] <cheese> i got a question
[22:19] <twobitsprite> wilee-nilee: feel like explaining why it's bogus?
[22:20] <twobitsprite> wilee-nilee: after all, don't just post to post (whatever that's supposed to mean?)
[22:20] <iamafraid> SonikkuAmerica:  it is labeld status ?
[22:20] <cheese> can ubuntu boot from PXE but then shadow it in the ram so it boots faster
[22:20] <harris> wilee-nilee,  did the rolling updates pass
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[22:20] <Artakha> fail
[22:20] <iamafraid> wtf
[22:20] <twobitsprite> lame
[22:20] <twobitsprite> 0/10
[22:21] <cheese> im still  here :)
[22:21] <cheese> fail
[22:21] <iamafraid> duble
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> I was about to flag the !ops
[22:21] <Artakha> might want to flag them anyway
[22:21] <cheese> you just did
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !ops | GET IN HERE! SPAM!
[22:22] <subcool> whats with the server down junk?
[22:22] <Artakha> some moron failed miserably at dos'ing this
[22:22] <johnjohn1011> figures
[22:22] <blazemore> Freenode is pretty resiliant
[22:22] <k1l> guys, lets just move forward from that spam :)
[22:22] <twobitsprite> subcool: some script kiddies thinking they're kool trying to DDOS freenet
[22:22] <blazemore> Can I disable compositing effects in Raring to get faster gaming performance, similar to doing "metacity --replace" in the old days?
[22:22] <twobitsprite> er, freenode :P
[22:22] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: Thanks...
[22:22] <Artakha> twobitsprite, it was just a dos - they all came from the same ip
[22:22] <chaos7theory> Alright, ignoring all that... xD
[22:22] <chaos7theory> Should I repost my question?
[22:22] <cheese> i got a question
[22:23] <twobitsprite> Artakha: ah, lol... didn't even notice... amateurs... :P
[22:23] <Artakha> i guess someone got bored
[22:23] <cheese> will I ask it or just ask it in my head
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | chaos7theory
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> (Supybot is awesome. Dancer is even more awesome.)
[22:24] <mong> blazemore: i think you can use compizconfig to change the effects settings of unity
[22:24] <subcool> twobitsprite, arent there better thing to hack?
[22:24] <cheese> can you have a 'shadow cache' for booting linux
[22:25] <cheese> where you load it in the ram
[22:25] <chaos7theory> Well, tht's the thing. I've been researching it for hours and I know almost all I can understand of UEFI. I need to install on UEFI if I want to dual-boot Windows 8, and even the manual parrtioning scheme recognizes the partitions (including the EFI partition), but I'm more worried about GRUB2 not detecting it
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> chaos7theory, The support for uefi is at the ubuntu forums. ;)
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> the best*
[22:26] <Artakha> chaos7theory, make sure you toggle secure boot off
[22:27] <arrrrgh> i walked away from my computer and it went back to the display manager and now i can't connect to the original x session. it's on, uhhhh :11. is there any way for me to connect to this display numbe ror move the display number?
[22:27] <twobitsprite> subcool: anyways... since wilee-nilee can't seem to articulate a defense of his bogosity charges, and no one else seems to have any ideas... I'd say go with the rescue CD from the link
[22:27] <chaos7theory> Yeah, it's off. And I've already seen 5+ threads on my specific problem, but no one really 'resolved' them, so I figured it'd be best to try a more real-time chat.. x-x'
[22:27] <arrrrgh> if i log in as my user it just makes a new x session O_O
[22:27] <twobitsprite> at a minimum it'll make sure your packages are in sync and configured
[22:27] <cheese> what do I do to get attention in here
[22:27] <chaos7theory> Is there a command that can test if grub2 will recognize Windows 8 before installing or not?
[22:27] <subcool> twobitsprite, im currently running the simple commands..
[22:28] <twobitsprite> ohh, dpkg/apt-get are working?
[22:29] <arrrrgh> sigh
[22:30] <cheese> can you have linux bootloaders
[22:30] <subcool> twobitsprite, well.. kinda? - half this is funky. im rebooting to see whats up
[22:30] <twobitsprite> cheese: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[22:31] <cheese> omg
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> chaos7theory, If installed correctly grub 2 will see windows 8 many people are dual booted with W8 and ubuntu.
[22:31] <twobitsprite> subcool: if you have any doubts about the integrity of dpkg and/or apt-get, I would recommend booting from the rescue CD... never know how much worse it can make things
[22:31] <cheese> can you write a boot loader with unix
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> n UEFI
[22:32] <cheese> i guess linux is unix right
[22:32] <k1l> cheese: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[22:32] <chaos7theory> I guess it's more of an unusual issue with this Dell's weird UEFI/BIOS boot options
[22:32] <twobitsprite> cheese: what do you mean by "write a boot loader"?
[22:33] <chaos7theory> Being it's the three "Windows Boot Manager", "IP4 Realtek..." and "IP6 Realtek..."
[22:33] <twobitsprite> cheese: Ubuntu (as with most Linux systems) comes with a boot loader: grub... why would you need to write one?
[22:33] <cheese> some software than boots from what you tell it to
[22:33] <cheese> ok cool
[22:33] <subcool> twobitsprite, idk- i did what the steps said - just outside of a LIveUSB.
[22:34] <cheese> can you run linux in the ram so its faster
[22:34] <twobitsprite> subcool: ok, but if it breaks you get to keep both pieces :P
[22:34] <twobitsprite> cheese: are you having performance problems?
[22:34] <cheese> no
[22:34] <cheese> but can you
[22:34] <cheese> not yet i dont
[22:34] <Myrtti> cheese: you could try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:35] <subcool> twobitsprite, still nothing-... ugh- i guess ill reboot into it..
[22:35] <k1l> cheese: please stick to ubuntu support questions in here. for linux support ask in #linux
[22:35] <Diamondcite> You can technically load it into ramdisk.. but better have a lot of ram?
[22:35] <subcool> but- i dont think this is goign to fix it
[22:35] <cheese> no reply there
[22:35] <twobitsprite> cheese: the linux kernel is loaded in to memory, as are all of the programs which are run at boot... the kernel also temporarily stores files from the filesystem in memory when they're requested by programs
[22:35] <Segnale> anybody knows why I get this error with cowpatty when trying to crack my ap ?
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> chaos7theory, As long as you have an image/clone off the computer you can do anything.
[22:35] <Segnale>  SSID in hashfile ("04PPk99") does not match SSID specified on the
[22:35] <Segnale>  command line ("HOXAndroidAP").  You cannot mix and match SSID's for this
[22:35] <Segnale>  attack
[22:35] <FloodBot1> Segnale: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <Segnale> sorry
[22:35] <chaos7theory> http://leftbraintinkering.blogspot.com/2012/12/dual-boot-linux-mint-13-with-windows-8_2.html This is my exact model. They recommend installing in BIOS/Legacy mode first then using boot-repoair. Is that recommended at all?
[22:35] <Segnale> that wasnt my intention
[22:35] <MrCata> b
[22:35] <cheese> yess but this is using just ram unless you write which it  goes to the HDD on the remote computer
[22:36] <twobitsprite> cheese: remote computer? what exactly are you doing?
[22:36] <emjayess> hoping someone here can point me in the right direction on this deploy key / ssh problem I'm stuck on? https://gist.github.com/emjayess/5463489
[22:36] <emjayess> it's ubuntu 12.04 on AWS
[22:37] <sebsebseb>  
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> What is
[22:38] <chaos7theory> Be right back. I'll test to see if Legacy mode detects it or not just in case
[22:38] <cheese> can grub load the boot process into the ram then run it from the ram
[22:38] <cheese> that is in an SSD locally or remotley
[22:39] <twobitsprite> cheese: well, firstly, SSD is not the same thing as RAM... secondly, I recommend reading this good article on how bootloaders work: http://lennartb.home.xs4all.nl/bootloaders/node3.html
[22:40] <cheese> yes
[22:40] <cheese> the ssd is where the OS etc is stored
[22:40] <cheese> but its just ran in the memory but changes are saved back in the ssd
[22:40] <twobitsprite> right....
[22:41] <Fishscene> cheese: I'm sure it is entirely possible to load the entire linux root FS into RAM and then execute from there during the boot process. But as far as I know, no one for decades has thought that this would be a worthwhile endeavor. Especially now that we have SSD's, which are wicked fast.
[22:42] <Rolenun> While SSDs are faster, their lifespan is much shorter. pick your poison ;)
[22:42] <nishanth> I need some help with my login screen on raring ringtail
[22:42] <twobitsprite> Rolenun: depends on the ssd
[22:43] <Rolenun> no, it's a flaw in the design. feel free to google it
[22:43] <Rolenun> the manufacturers all ackowledge the flaw, but ppl want the speed so most dont say much :)
[22:43] <mmj> I need help with broken dependencies
[22:43] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602644
[22:44] <subcool> ANyone!? - Segment faults..
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> mmj: First, [ sudo apt-get -f install ]
[22:44] <twobitsprite> Rolenun: nuh-uh YOU google it! :P seriously, good SSDs reallocate sectors dynamically to spread the load and have spare sectors to replace failed ones
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience|subcool
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !google|twobitsprite
[22:44] <ezoe> In Ubuntu 13.04, dragging window is laggy.
[22:44] <mmj> failed
[22:45] <cheese> this is now most computers tht are not personal computers work
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Rolenun, modern SSD's have lifetimes as long as discs.
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> mmj: Can you pastebin what you have?
[22:45] <ezoe> I think it was 12.04 or 11.10 which behaved like this and then fixed.
[22:45] <cheese> some have HDDs in but some are diskless
[22:45] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: er... I was repsonding to Rolenun who told ME to google it... :P
[22:45] <nishanth> can someone help me with a dim display issue on ubuntu?
[22:45] <cheese> i wanna do this as its way faster than an SSD
[22:45]  * SonikkuAmerica pwnz himself at times, twobitsprite.
[22:46] <cheese> you can get ram that is 2400mhz now
[22:46] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: :P
[22:46] <cheese> 2444*
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, Not unless you give the details of your problem to the channel, not me.
[22:46] <twobitsprite> cheese: why do you need it to be so fast? are you building a HPCC cluster or something?
[22:47] <Fishscene> Cheese: Most people who have embarked on this quest (believe me, you are so NOT the first) have discovered the cost of diminishing returns. The cost of developing that, plus what happens when the power dies, most people can't justify.
[22:47] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, DId u see the new file i posted - Or.....
[22:47] <mmj> http://pastebin.com/tfa9r3JR
[22:47] <Rolenun> and i'll stand by my original statement. the design is based on rewriting a limited number of times to the disk. the lifespan is limited for a reason. google is your friend. :)
[22:47] <cheese> when the power dies it gets saved to the SSD OR HDD
[22:48] <cheese> the RAM nas a battery or supercapacator it dosnt use AC (the ca does) but still
[22:48] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: I did...
[22:48] <cheese> the ram has a battery *
[22:48] <twobitsprite> cheese: the linux kernel does a lot of really cool things optimize for speed such as caching reads, buffering writes, etc, etc... I highly doubt you really need it all in RAM... 90% of your filesystem only gets touched very infrequently...
[22:48] <mmj> I have no clue how to fix this
[22:48] <cheese> it is expensive I know
[22:48] <Fishscene> cheese: When the power dies, everything in RAM is 100% lost. No time to save to SSD. Not unless you have it talking to a battery-backup. RAM does *not* have a battery.
[22:48] <nishanth> So when i get the log in screen, the brightness is too low , you can barely tell the screen is turned on....anyone know how to fix this?
[22:49] <cheese> the ssd does sorry
[22:49] <mong> nishanth: is this on an ASUS netbook/laptop, by any chance?
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> nishanth: Are there buttons on your machine that will fix it (monitor, software buttons, key combinations)?
[22:49] <cheese> well its like a hyperdrive
[22:49] <nishanth> mong: no
[22:49] <cheese> it uses Nram
[22:49] <explodes> Hello. I'm installing Ubuntu server 12.10 on a RAID 1+0 (4x 1.5TB = 3TB) Right now the message is "Wiping swap space for security (this may take a while)…" It's been saying 12% for a while now, I don't know if it started at 12% or what. Should I be waiting for 15+ minutes on this part? I am using the default partitioning options.
[22:49] <twobitsprite> cheese: it's more than expensive, it's a complete waste... I can't imagine what you would be doing that would require everything to be permanently in memory... most of the stuff is in memory already including the programs that are running and the files they're using
[22:50] <nishanth> SonikkuAmerica: no i dont have any buttons that can turn up the brightness
[22:50] <chord> where can I get the raring minimal for usb
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> nishanth: What's your hardware?
[22:50] <cheese> its a media server
[22:50] <mmj> SonikkuAmerica http://pastebin.com/tfa9r3JR
[22:50] <cheese> and centre
[22:50] <Fishscene> cheese: Again, you're getting into sophisticated engineering. So unless you're willing to lay down some mucho dinero, you might want to check out using Linux on an SSD. Believe me, you won't notice much of a difference between an SSD and a pure-RAM experience.... PLUS, you still get the full support of the linux community (running entirely in RAM is *very* niche and won't be supported by 99% of the people out there)
[22:51] <twobitsprite> cheese: what kind of framerate are you using that SSD isn't fast enough?
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> mmj: Oh no...
[22:51] <mmj> is that really bad
[22:51] <nishanth> SonikkuAmerica: its a hp pavilion laptop
[22:51] <jordan__> Would there be any reason that I would not want to run 64-bit ubuntu given that the machine supports it?
[22:51] <Fishscene> cheese: I *have* heard of people doing neat tricks, like running their program/webpage in RAM. One guy wrote a script that copies his website directory to RAM, then tells apache to load the webpage from there.
[22:52] <cheese> cool
[22:52] <twobitsprite> cheese: sorry, that was a rhetorical question... seriously, if you're just serving movies, no need to worry about ssd being too slow
[22:52] <SonikkuAmerica> nishanth: I'm sure a Pavilion has a Fn+something command to mess with the brightness...
[22:52] <cheese> well it measn you dont need a HDD
[22:52] <zutme> So I just updated to 13.04 on a server install and it still prompts me: "New release '13.04' available.
[22:52] <zutme> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it." What gives?
[22:53] <twobitsprite> cheese: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Diskless-HOWTO.html
[22:53] <cheese> thanks
[22:53] <explodes> GUYS How long should I be waiting for "wiping swap space for security" on my new installation?
[22:54] <twobitsprite> cheese: but, where are you going to load the media from?
[22:54] <twobitsprite> explodes: how long has it been?
[22:54] <Jeruvy> explodes until it finishes.  Do you think it crashed?  check /var/log/messages
[22:54] <explodes> twobitsprite: About 30 minutes
[22:54] <explodes> Jeruvy: New installation.
[22:54] <twobitsprite> explodes: how big is the swap?
[22:54] <cheese> DVD blu ray cd download etc
[22:55] <explodes> twobitsprite: :S Dunno, I used the default partitioning settings (RAID 1+0 4x 1.5 TB = 3 TB space, hardware RAID)
[22:55] <explodes> twobitsprite: I'd imagine the swap was no more than 50 GB
[22:55] <Jeruvy> explodes ctrl-alt f1, login and check.
[22:56] <twobitsprite> cheese: if this is a personal media server, just put a harddrive in it... no need to overthink the performance, trust me, it'll be plenty fast... you network will be slower than the HDD
[22:56] <mmj> I need help with broken dependencies
[22:56] <explodes> Jeruvy: CTRL-ALT F1 didn't work, (I haven't even finished installing yet)
[22:56] <mmj>  http://pastebin.com/tfa9r3JR
[22:56] <cheese> network or ssd idk yet
[22:57] <cheese> so its just as cheap as a regular pc really
[22:57] <twobitsprite> cheese: and having the entire filesystem in memory won't make it any faster
[22:57] <jordan__> So I have an old laptop with no disc drive, bios doesn't support USB boot (usb 1.0 mind you) and the windows install is broken so wubi isn't an option. It can however boot from a flopy disc with a specific USB floppy disc drive and the current windows install can still copy files from Internet/flash drive. Given these circumstances is an ubuntu install feasible, and if so how might I go about doing it?
[22:57] <twobitsprite> cheese: it won't be if you're buying enough RAM to load a whole media library in to it! :P
[22:57] <cheese> not all of it is
[22:58] <explodes> Oh ok never mind it is done ^___^
[22:58] <deadlyninja> jordan__: might want to look at something like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[22:58] <bjrohan> Hey everyone. I am installing Ubuntu Server 13.04. I am at a point where it is asking what I would like to install. What is the difference between Kubuntu Active and kubuntu desktop
[22:58] <cheese> when you close a window it is not in the ram anymore
[22:59] <cheese> it only loads stuf your using
[22:59] <cheese> otherwise it will be slower
[22:59] <k1l> cheese: last time now: do you have a specific ubuntu support issue? if not please use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[22:59] <cheese> ok thanks
[22:59] <zutme> So I just updated to 13.04 on a server install and it still prompts me: "New release '13.04' available. Anyone have an idea why?
[23:00] <deadlyninja> jordan__: ive done installation by floppy before, you basically only boot the kernel from floppy, then bootstrap the installation with debootstrap
[23:00] <k1l> zutme: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[23:00] <deadlyninja> and everything comes over the network
[23:00] <jordan__> deadlyninja: thanks, will look into trying this
[23:00] <zutme> k1l, Release:        13.04
[23:00] <deadlyninja> jordan__: it sort of helps to be familiar with command line linux though
[23:01] <subcool> ok, im not really sure what to do about this error.
[23:01] <deadlyninja> anyone know why 13.04 running in virtualbox is using chromium as a gl provider instead of mesa?
[23:01] <subcool> Im use to such issues being rooted to a core system faulire. Everything i run appear to crash with a segment fault
[23:02] <deadlyninja> or how i can change it back to mesa? im getting shader compile errors in 13.04 that do not occur in 12.10
[23:03] <explodes> I have 4 hard drives configured with hardware raid, how do I test that all 4 of them are in working order with command line tools? :0
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> deadlyninja, gl provider?
[23:04] <cristina> hello ..
[23:04] <cristina> everyone
[23:04] <bjrohan> Thank you
[23:05] <cristina> any romanian support here.i need some help
[23:05] <Slart> !ro
[23:05] <cristina> thx slart
[23:05] <Slart> cristina: you're welcome
[23:05] <cristina> everyone is sleeping in romania:D
[23:06] <hyperborean> nu toti :D
[23:06] <cristina> pai te pricepi?
[23:06] <deadlyninja> wilee-nilee: when i type glxinfo it shows up as "1.3 Chromium" instead of "sgi mesa"
[23:07] <m000gle> Following the upgrade to Raring, from Quantal, I've noticed the system tray icons for programs like Skype no longer appear in the top bar, near the clock and app-indicators.
[23:07] <m000gle> It's my understanding that the system tray has been deprecated, and the onus is on the vendor to update this; but has anyone to found a way to make the Skype tray icon appear in 13.04?
[23:07] <Rolenun> \\Mr_C\\-Z VBNM
[23:08] <mzaza> I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 13 and Nautilus is lags when closing, after clicking the close button it closes 3-5 seconds after. Is that normal?
[23:09] <ceed^> I have this "ghost" panel on top of the screen when playing movies in full screen. I'm on 13.04. I did not have this on previous versions. See here: http://bit.ly/17YVWBo
[23:10] <mzaza> Other than when I open nautilus it takes 5 seconds to respond to my clicks, only first time when I open it.
[23:11] <junglist> the "ghost" panel is only displayed while using totem player, or?
[23:14] <kostkon> ceed^, it is an known problem. it will be fixed soon
[23:14] <Antar> Hello
[23:15] <Antar> please what is the maximum mermory size to use ubuntu in vmware
[23:16] <Mavrik> Antar, "maximum memory size"?
[23:16] <kostkon> Antar, maximum or you mean minimum? i'll recommend to give it at least 1.5GB, or if you can >=2GB
[23:16] <ceed^> kostkon, thanks ok!
[23:16] <kostkon> Antar, it depends of how much ram you have available
[23:17] <onr> 4gb if its 32bit
[23:17] <ceed^> kostkon: Is it know that it's only on Intel graphics? I have a laptop with nvidia graphics which doesn't have this problem.
[23:17] <Antar> 1gb
[23:18] <kostkon> ceed^, no clue. i assume there is already a bug report for it
[23:19] <geektech713> anyone downloaded to 13.04 yet
[23:20] <m000gle> geektech713:  Yeah, the install from Update Manager went perfectly :)
[23:20] <geektech713> is it worth the Download?
[23:20] <geektech713> i have it on VMware
[23:20] <Antar> i have 1 gb in my computer
[23:20] <geektech713> or ram or CPU?
[23:20] <Antar> can i run ubuntu into vmware
[23:21] <geektech713> ya takes less than gig to load it
[23:21] <Irish_Wolf> Hello Ubuntu! =)
[23:21] <alexa> how to remap keyboard letters?
[23:21] <Fishscene> I upgraded my 12.10 on VMware ESXi just fine to 13.04, I had a myseterious hard crash, but I later discovered VMware had reset it because VMtools hadn't gotten a heartbeat
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> Antar, not very well with that memeory what is the hodt?
[23:21] <m000gle> geektech713: I found it more responsive on my laptop (core i5), but felt a negligible speed difference on my desktop (core2duo).  In VMware, I can't say
[23:21] <Jordan_U> Antar: Yes, but it won't be pleasant. LUbuntu would be a better choice.
[23:21] <alexa> I would like to set some character to alt gr + D
[23:22] <Antar> Jordan_U what do you mean
[23:22] <Antar> can i run ubuntu by this memory
[23:22] <kostkon> Antar, you mean run ubuntu in a vm on your computer that has only 1GB of ram?
[23:22] <Antar> exactly
[23:22] <Irish_Wolf> anyone know how to fix ubuntu from freaking out after I accidentally unplugged my iphone before unmounting it?
[23:23] <geektech713> ya i was confused by the statement too u mean in VMware or actual hardware
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Antar: It also depends on what host OS you're using, and how much RAM it needs. Assuming a 50/50 split between host and VM, you're going to have only 512 MiB of RAM for each OS, most modern OS's won't run well (if at all) with only 512 MiB or RAM. Lubuntu will, if your host OS can handle only having 512 MiB of RAM.
[23:23] <deadlyninja> Antar: you may want to investigate zram
[23:23] <kostkon> Jordan_U, with 1GB, both the host and the guest will struggle
[23:23] <Antar> i have windows xp
[23:23] <kostkon> a lot
[23:23] <geektech713> u still on XP Antar?
[23:24] <Antar> yes
[23:24] <geektech713> i was quessing lol
[23:24] <Jordan_U> kostkon: That was my point :)
[23:24] <geektech713> guessing
[23:24] <kostkon> Jordan_U, yes indeed :P
[23:24] <geektech713> damn XP losing support from microsoft next year
[23:24] <Antar> hhhh
[23:24] <Antar> ok i am using xp
[23:25] <geektech713> I already played with Windows 8
[23:25] <geektech713> it was ok
[23:25] <Antar> yes
[23:25] <Antar> i tryed it
[23:25] <subcool> Im use to such issues being rooted to a core system faulire. Everything i run appear to crash with a segment fault
[23:25] <geektech713> once you figure it out is fas
[23:25] <subcool> ok, im not really sure what to do about this error.
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Antar: Try it, but use Lubuntu rather than Ubuntu with GNOME/Unity. You will probably not be happy with the performance of either XP or Lubuntu when you're giving each only 512 MiB of RAM, but it can't hurt to try :)
[23:25] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602644
[23:26] <Antar> Jordan_U i tryed ubuntu it works for me
[23:26] <Antar> but it freeze
[23:27] <nerder> hello there
[23:27] <nerder> i have some problem with wine on Ubuntu 12.04
[23:28] <nerder> i know that there is #winehq but nobody answer to me in that channel
[23:28] <Jordan_U> Antar: When did it freeze? Also, I don't consider it "working" if it freezes :)
[23:29] <Antar> sorry for my english jordan
[23:29] <jordan> Antar: no problem ;D
[23:29] <Antar> ok Great
[23:30] <jordan> Jordan_U: sorry for Antar's english
[23:30] <Antar> so is 8gb enough in harddrive in vm
[23:30] <asdasd> aaaw crap NOTHING works on this RARING: not even the tty
[23:31] <AndChat|398025> Hello
[23:31] <Jordan_U> Antar: Yes, that is more than enough for a default installation. Of course how much disk space you need is highly dependant on what you do and how many large files you want to store in the Ubuntu VM.
[23:32] <litropy> asdasd, did you have your comp configured to auto-mount a USB drive at any point?
[23:32] <Antar> ok
[23:32] <Antar> so the problem is on th ram
[23:32] <Antar> Random acceses memory :)
[23:33] <antman> please tell me i don't have to jump through hoops to get vnc server to start on startup
[23:33] <antman> startup= boot
[23:34] <Antar> I want to get rid of windows
[23:34] <Antar> you know jordan
[23:34] <asdasd> litropy: not explicitely i was running raring from a usb pen drive with "nomodeset" and "toram" installed the nvidia-current and Xorg crashed. i couldnt even revive it from tty because my usb keyboard input got BADLY scrambled
[23:34] <Antar> I used it illegally
[23:34] <litropy> asdasd, ah, okay. Just wondering.
[23:34] <jordan> Antar: are you meaning to ping Jordan_U?
[23:35] <Antar> إثس
[23:35] <Antar> yes
[23:35] <Antar> jordan_u
[23:35]  * asdasd thinks he  will be stuck with natty forever. 
[23:36] <Antar> in our country we can purchase a windows
[23:37] <nerder> i have a problem with a MMORPG game (Metin2) util yesterday was all good but right now when i try to open that .exe for running up a game i have this error: http://pastebin.com/VqQzymPR
[23:37] <Antar> there is no windows
[23:37] <nerder> i'm using wine
[23:37] <Antar> sorry we cant purchase windows
[23:37] <deadlyninja> is there a way to turn off the "visual effects" in 13.04?
[23:38] <Antar> So we have to copy and downloading from torrent sites
[23:38] <nerder> nobody could help me with this?
[23:40] <subcool> so- someone chime in please. - You are unable to view movies/media over smb?
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> nerder, 2 minutes without an answer and you're worried, try #winehq
[23:41] <mong> deadlyninja: unity's visual effects can be tweaked with compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:41] <nerder> i'm already ask in there
[23:41] <nerder> but is like a dead channel
[23:41] <YaSiN> lol
[23:42] <YaSiN> u should go disco the man
[23:42] <YaSiN> if do you want move
[23:42] <YaSiN> or action
[23:42] <KurtKraut> nerder, if your question is complex, try asking in a forum or mailing list. So you can get answers asynchronously.
[23:42] <nerder> KurtKraut, ok i'm try
[23:42] <YaSiN> nerders looks like question machine lol
[23:43] <gustav> Hurr...
[23:43] <YaSiN> dont bite pls lol
[23:43] <gustav> How do I get an nVidia GPU running in Raring? x|
[23:44] <YaSiN> ask google
[23:44] <nerder> YaSiN, google dosent answer fast
[23:44] <mong> !google
[23:45] <nerder> YaSiN, i don't use goolge just DuckDuckGo much better
[23:45] <YaSiN> why has google it
[23:45] <KurtKraut> nerder, a fast answer is usually not a good answer. That is why I strongly recommend forums and mailing lists if the problem is complex.
[23:45] <nerder> KurtKraut, i'm joking dnt worry ;)
[23:45] <KurtKraut> gustav, is it not working at all (no image) or it is not is not using 3D acceleration?
[23:45] <mernilio> hm.. im banned from "ubuntu-offtopic". Im bad sucking up for people, so maybe you can do me the favor?
[23:45] <mernilio> Also, i dont even know why im banned :-/
[23:45] <gustav> KurtKraut: I have Optimus...stuff. It's displaying on the internal (Intel) chip right now, but no 3D.
[23:46] <mernilio> I said im of muslim faith maybe...
[23:46] <Jordan_U> mernilio: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss bans.
[23:46] <KurtKraut> gustav, I see. So this is outside my depth. Never had experience with Optimus.
[23:46] <mernilio> and is a major in chemistry... ;-P
[23:47] <gustav> :/
[23:47] <mernilio> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[23:47] <frankbro> Is the netinstall available yet? Cant seem to find it on site.
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> frankbro, Yes it is called the alternative now
[23:47] <Jordan_U> mernilio: You're welcome.
[23:48] <frankbro> wilee-nilee, just found it, thanks ( link if anyone else was looking for : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso )
[23:49] <Guest76967> hola
[23:50] <figure8car> I want to know how I can install the same QT development tools in 13.04 that were offered in 12.10
[23:50] <Guest76967> soy nuevo en ubuntu, algunos consejos?
[23:51] <rribeiro> Hello... Does someone know how to install haskell plataform in ubuntu 13.04? I'm having some problems with this...
[23:51] <figure8car> do you find it with apt?
[23:52] <figure8car> sudo apt-get install Haskell...
[23:53] <SecretFire> ubuntu isn't recognizing my iphone
[23:53] <rribeiro> figure8car: There's no Haskell package
[23:53] <Kilroyy> so I guess I picked a good week to install ubuntu, lol
[23:53] <Kilroyy> it only barely recognizes my Galaxy s3
[23:53] <figure8car> Was there in previous release? I know only QT, not Haskell
[23:54] <rribeiro> figure8car: in previous versions of ubuntu, have a haskell-platform package... but in 13.04 no :(
[23:54] <OerHeks> gustav, i read about Optimus/bumblebee, see  >> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[23:54] <OerHeks> after part 4
[23:54] <bean> !info haskell-platform
[23:54] <bean> !info haskell-platform lucid
[23:54] <frankbro> THATS IT! HASKELL IS DEAD
[23:55] <KurtKraut> rribeiro, did you check if the package named changed? http://packages.ubuntu.com is an easy way of checking that.
[23:55] <Kilroyy> and for this linux noob...haskell would be??
[23:55] <OerHeks> !find haskel
[23:55] <rribeiro> KurtKraut: I'check
[23:56] <OerHeks> Kilroyy, it is a program language > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/UncommonProgrammingLanguages/Haskell
[23:56] <Kilroyy> ah ok
[23:57] <Kilroyy> like I said , I'm a total linux noob. just installed last week
[23:57] <OerHeks> Kilroyy, hang in here, you will have plenty to read
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> Kilroyy, This is not a 12 step meeting, lol.
[23:57] <Name141> Is there any news of what's new in 13.04 ?
[23:58] <Kilroyy> I've figured out a lot on my own already, by either googling questions or searching forums
[23:58] <figure8car> omgubuntu
[23:58] <bean> figure8car, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/i386/haskell-platform  seems they're waiting until haskell-platform for GHC 7.6
[23:58] <reduz> question: Installed Ubuntu 12.10 on machine with Win8 OEM preinstalled, in efi mode, secure boot enabled. After install, Windows 8 does not boot. If I repair Windows 8 then grub goes away. Running boot-repair completely destroys Windows 8 and it needs to be system-restored from restore partition. Any hints? Is there any way to magically disable efi/secure boot in Windows 8 so it's all back to how it used to be before without reinstalling it?
[23:59] <gustav> Like always with nVidia, there are instructions, and they look like they would work, but they don't.
[23:59] <Kilroyy> my windows startup files got corrupt and I don't have  a backup cd so I installed ubuntu rather than having a laptop that was totally useless, lol
[23:59] <OerHeks> gustav yes there are issues.
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> reduz, Not many are up on uefi here I have yet to see any good detailed help here, however the ubuntu forums does have user focused on it.