ochosi | mr_pouit, micahg: there's a theming-problem for people who install gtk3.8 via a ppa (e.g. for gnome3), we have an unproblematic, backward-compatible fix in git for that (only a few lines long) – any chance to get that into Raring backports? (also known as bug #1163128) | 05:40 |
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ubottu | bug 1163128 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "GTK3 application themes broken with xubuntu 13.04 themes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163128 | 05:41 |
ochosi | (it's not that i don't see the point of saying: it's the user's fault, because he added a ppa, but since the fix is so simple...) | 05:42 |
ochosi | mr_pouit, micahg: this is the relevant commit: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/f371c7bd7a27351a6786b0eefee79074861cb9e2 | 05:42 |
micahg | ochosi: if it's a BC compatible fix and you'd like it in raring, please follow the SRU procedure (fill out paperwork) and I'll be happy to upload it over the weekend | 06:00 |
* micahg is being redundantly redundant at 1am apparently, -> zzz | 06:01 | |
micahg | ochosi: backports are for features and/or really risky bugs that fail the SRU test | 06:02 |
Noskcaj | can someone run the xubuntu upgrade tests? that and bug fixes are all we still have to do for release | 08:37 |
Unit193 | How old is the testcase? | 08:40 |
Noskcaj | Unit193, i have no idea, probably very | 08:55 |
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Unit193 | knome: Care to do the honors for s/12.10/13.04/ in #xonotic | 12:31 |
Unit193 | #xubuntu rahter. | 12:31 |
knome | Unit193, which factoids would those be? | 12:38 |
Unit193 | /topic | 12:39 |
knome | oh. | 12:39 |
knome | sure | 12:39 |
knome | done. | 12:40 |
gry | the homepage is ... | 12:40 |
knome | updated. | 12:41 |
gry | reloaded, seems so, ta | 12:41 |
GridCube | :3 | 12:42 |
Unit193 | http://xubuntu.org/help/ too. | 12:43 |
knome | getting to it, just editing the download page | 12:43 |
Unit193 | Heh, alrightyo. | 12:44 |
knome | are lucid and oneiric EOL already, or is there some other date? | 12:44 |
knome | may 9, apparently | 12:45 |
knome | if you see more (striked) mirrors at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ working, ping me and i'll update | 12:48 |
knome | atm we seem to only have three of them up | 12:49 |
Unit193 | http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/raring/ is always quick. | 12:50 |
knome | why isn't that on our list? | 12:50 |
knome | oh, it's just ubuntu | 12:50 |
Unit193 | ...Dropped Kubuntu too a while back. | 12:50 |
knome | mhm | 12:50 |
knome | i wonder if it's time to drop the commercial support section from our help | 12:55 |
GridCube | i would ask them first | 12:56 |
knome | i've asked several people in the past, nobody knows the answer | 12:57 |
GridCube | then remove it | 12:57 |
knome | probably later | 12:58 |
GridCube | better not to put us in a predicament | 12:58 |
gry | is the question along the "do they do commercial support for xubuntu" lines? | 12:58 |
knome | gry, yeah | 12:58 |
gry | I don't see why not if the ubuntu repos have a xubuntu-desktop package in them | 13:05 |
knome | well, canonical doesn't provide the support for xubuntu packages generally either | 13:06 |
knome | so when the xubuntu team promises 3 years of lts support, we commit to help our community with the xubuntu-specific packages for that 3 years | 13:06 |
GridCube | knome, :) when its the next community meeting | 13:41 |
knome | may 2 | 13:42 |
GridCube | :) thanks | 13:43 |
pjotr | Thanks for all the good work, people! Xubuntu Raring is a beauty. You can be proud of it. :-) | 13:57 |
knome | thanks :) | 14:01 |
pjotr | Free beer for all developers: http://www.cafe-de-engelbewaarder.nl/img/bierplaatjes/GlasPALM.jpg | 14:02 |
knome | heh | 14:03 |
pjotr | Now is time for some R&R... Party time! :-) | 14:03 |
knome | have fun | 14:03 |
lderan | is there free juice for non-beer drinking developers? | 14:20 |
lderan | :P | 14:20 |
Unit193 | Coffee? Tea? | 14:21 |
* genii-around makes a fresh pot and kettle | 14:21 | |
* knome send lderan some lingonberryjuice | 14:21 | |
Unit193 | Hot chocolate? | 14:21 |
lderan | all acceptable :P | 14:22 |
skellat | Does anybody have credentials to make a post to the Google+ page so that I can echo it from the Ubuntu Ohio LoCo page? I got Ubuntu but definitely want to ensure I catch Xubuntu. | 14:24 |
knome | skellat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/ | 14:25 |
knome | we should have a better list with email addresses or that | 14:25 |
skellat | I can't find the other person listed as being on Launchpad | 14:29 |
skellat | Which leaves pleia2 as the only one with credentials | 14:29 |
knome | she's away. | 14:29 |
knome | i suppose the other person is on G+ "only" | 14:29 |
skellat | Hunh. I wonder how that works | 14:30 |
knome | i'd imagine there's a way to contact the team admins | 14:30 |
skellat | Google Plus is remarkably opaque in that regard | 14:31 |
knome | i believe you | 14:32 |
ochosi | skellat: i think you can publish a message and solely share it with the xubuntu team ther or something | 14:32 |
ochosi | (but i'm no expert) | 14:32 |
skellat | The only reason I'm using it is that I'm the Ohio Leader and have to keep charge of our LoCo page | 14:32 |
skellat | ochosi: Done | 14:33 |
knome | i hope it gets fixed | 14:34 |
knome | no way i'm going to let any of you contact elizabeth now. | 14:34 |
skellat | I wouldn't dare try | 14:34 |
knome | skellat, how's the voting thing going on? | 14:35 |
* skellat notes that the SABDFL has called the next cycle Saucy Salamander: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 | 14:36 | |
knome | so it's not going to be "silent sabdfl" | 14:37 |
skellat | Silent Submariner | 14:37 |
knome | saucy | 14:37 |
knome | meh | 14:37 |
knome | :) | 14:37 |
skellat | knome: I'm still on backup status. May 7th is the poll and a bunch of precinct election officers have already called off. I'm able to be called up through almost the closing of the polls on the 7th so it is mostly a sit back and wait for the call-up scenario. | 14:38 |
knome | skellat, oh. i was talking about the voting, but good to have an update on that as well :] | 14:39 |
skellat | Oh, for the Xubuntu shindig you mean? | 14:39 |
knome | shin... what? :) | 14:40 |
knome | Noisy party or festivities. | 14:40 |
knome | okay | 14:40 |
knome | yeah, i suppose so... :) | 14:40 |
skellat | The Leader Election | 14:40 |
knome | yup | 14:40 |
knome | you okay with a quick PM? | 14:41 |
skellat | Sure | 14:41 |
knome | great | 14:41 |
knome | so... | 14:49 |
knome | what are the main arguments against public voting anyway? | 14:49 |
knome | because of tecnical limitations, we can't do that with meetingology either | 14:49 |
GridCube | ? | 14:52 |
GridCube | what? | 14:52 |
skellat | Hmm | 14:53 |
skellat | Well, channel flooding was one plus ensuring we had a representative enough base was another | 14:53 |
knome | channel flooding won't be a problem most probably :) | 14:54 |
knome | can you elaborate a bit on the latter? | 14:54 |
skellat | I need a second to log back into Launchpad | 14:55 |
skellat | We've got 45 users in channel now, 694 claimed users in ~xubuntu-users on LP | 14:55 |
skellat | With proper notice, nobody can complain they weren't told the vote was coming and that if they don't show up they forfeit having a choice | 14:57 |
skellat | Otherwise, that's a pretty small cross-section of the membership of ~xubuntu-users | 14:57 |
knome | the argument against that is different timezones | 14:57 |
skellat | Yep | 14:57 |
knome | which is why i would like to have some kind of possibility to vote during 24 hours | 14:58 |
knome | not at all costs, though, the strategy document doesn't enforce that for a good reason | 14:58 |
knome | the last time we voted for a project lead, we had 13 votes | 14:59 |
skellat | Well, there is the LP poll facility | 15:00 |
knome | that's meh. :) | 15:00 |
knome | i wonder if all the members of -users get a mail when we do that? | 15:00 |
knome | if they do, that would possibly raise some random votes | 15:01 |
knome | "i'll just vote for any" | 15:01 |
knome | and since the number of voters was 13 last time, it doesn't take much to throw that off | 15:01 |
knome | i don't think a random vote is fair for anybody | 15:01 |
skellat | Nope. LP Poll kicks out no mail at all as I learned the hard way with the "Membership Awareness" bit I ran for ~ubuntu-us-oh last week | 15:02 |
knome | ah | 15:02 |
knome | so it's as useful as nothing really. | 15:02 |
knome | well, it might be okay if we point people there | 15:02 |
knome | that would also save us from checking if people are eligible | 15:03 |
knome | we would only need to check against double votes | 15:03 |
skellat | It doesn't allow double votes | 15:03 |
knome | we're allowing voting on the irc meeting. | 15:03 |
skellat | Ah, no way to check that then | 15:03 |
knome | so theoretically one could vote in both | 15:03 |
knome | or then we only allow people to vote in the poll. | 15:04 |
skellat | I'd go poll only | 15:04 |
skellat | If you do both, you can't remove the possibility of double voting as LP won't let you track | 15:04 |
knome | that needs to be set 24 hours before the poll | 15:04 |
knome | that's fine, but we need to remember that | 15:04 |
skellat | Yep | 15:06 |
knome | meh. one shouldn't do two things at the same time | 15:07 |
knome | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-April/008845.html | 15:15 |
knome | !saucy | 16:34 |
ubottu | Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | 16:34 |
elfy | I am sad - they promised me it was going to be silly sausage :p | 16:34 |
knome | somebody said there's a similarly named uhm... "toy" | 16:34 |
elfy | lol | 16:35 |
knome | yeah, well done again | 16:35 |
drc | wait...saucy or silly toy? | 16:40 |
knome | as it was put by somebody else, a toy which is sold in certain "adult" shops. | 16:41 |
drc | in "all" adult shpos, I've checked...not, about which name? | 16:42 |
drc | /replace fingers | 16:42 |
knome | umm. let's not go deeper into this (no pun intended) | 16:43 |
drc | yes bwana :) | 16:43 |
maddernick | Grawling Gorilla | 16:56 |
maddernick | Will be my favorite | 16:56 |
maddernick | growling* | 16:57 |
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