[05:40] mr_pouit, micahg: there's a theming-problem for people who install gtk3.8 via a ppa (e.g. for gnome3), we have an unproblematic, backward-compatible fix in git for that (only a few lines long) – any chance to get that into Raring backports? (also known as bug #1163128) [05:41] bug 1163128 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "GTK3 application themes broken with xubuntu 13.04 themes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163128 [05:42] (it's not that i don't see the point of saying: it's the user's fault, because he added a ppa, but since the fix is so simple...) [05:42] mr_pouit, micahg: this is the relevant commit: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/f371c7bd7a27351a6786b0eefee79074861cb9e2 [06:00] ochosi: if it's a BC compatible fix and you'd like it in raring, please follow the SRU procedure (fill out paperwork) and I'll be happy to upload it over the weekend [06:01] * micahg is being redundantly redundant at 1am apparently, -> zzz [06:02] ochosi: backports are for features and/or really risky bugs that fail the SRU test [08:37] can someone run the xubuntu upgrade tests? that and bug fixes are all we still have to do for release [08:40] How old is the testcase? [08:55] Unit193, i have no idea, probably very === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === lderan_ is now known as lderan [12:31] knome: Care to do the honors for s/12.10/13.04/ in #xonotic [12:31] #xubuntu rahter. [12:38] Unit193, which factoids would those be? [12:39] /topic [12:39] oh. [12:39] sure [12:40] done. [12:40] the homepage is ... [12:41] updated. [12:41] reloaded, seems so, ta [12:42] :3 [12:43] http://xubuntu.org/help/ too. [12:43] getting to it, just editing the download page [12:44] Heh, alrightyo. [12:44] are lucid and oneiric EOL already, or is there some other date? [12:45] may 9, apparently [12:48] if you see more (striked) mirrors at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ working, ping me and i'll update [12:49] atm we seem to only have three of them up [12:50] http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/raring/ is always quick. [12:50] why isn't that on our list? [12:50] oh, it's just ubuntu [12:50] ...Dropped Kubuntu too a while back. [12:50] mhm [12:55] i wonder if it's time to drop the commercial support section from our help [12:56] i would ask them first [12:57] i've asked several people in the past, nobody knows the answer [12:57] then remove it [12:58] probably later [12:58] better not to put us in a predicament [12:58] is the question along the "do they do commercial support for xubuntu" lines? [12:58] gry, yeah [13:05] I don't see why not if the ubuntu repos have a xubuntu-desktop package in them [13:06] well, canonical doesn't provide the support for xubuntu packages generally either [13:06] so when the xubuntu team promises 3 years of lts support, we commit to help our community with the xubuntu-specific packages for that 3 years [13:41] knome, :) when its the next community meeting [13:42] may 2 [13:43] :) thanks [13:57] Thanks for all the good work, people! Xubuntu Raring is a beauty. You can be proud of it. :-) [14:01] thanks :) [14:02] Free beer for all developers: http://www.cafe-de-engelbewaarder.nl/img/bierplaatjes/GlasPALM.jpg [14:03] heh [14:03] Now is time for some R&R... Party time! :-) [14:03] have fun [14:20] is there free juice for non-beer drinking developers? [14:20] :P [14:21] Coffee? Tea? [14:21] * genii-around makes a fresh pot and kettle [14:21] * knome send lderan some lingonberryjuice [14:21] Hot chocolate? [14:22] all acceptable :P [14:24] Does anybody have credentials to make a post to the Google+ page so that I can echo it from the Ubuntu Ohio LoCo page? I got Ubuntu but definitely want to ensure I catch Xubuntu. [14:25] skellat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/ [14:25] we should have a better list with email addresses or that [14:29] I can't find the other person listed as being on Launchpad [14:29] Which leaves pleia2 as the only one with credentials [14:29] she's away. [14:29] i suppose the other person is on G+ "only" [14:30] Hunh. I wonder how that works [14:30] i'd imagine there's a way to contact the team admins [14:31] Google Plus is remarkably opaque in that regard [14:32] i believe you [14:32] skellat: i think you can publish a message and solely share it with the xubuntu team ther or something [14:32] (but i'm no expert) [14:32] The only reason I'm using it is that I'm the Ohio Leader and have to keep charge of our LoCo page [14:33] ochosi: Done [14:34] i hope it gets fixed [14:34] no way i'm going to let any of you contact elizabeth now. [14:34] I wouldn't dare try [14:35] skellat, how's the voting thing going on? [14:36] * skellat notes that the SABDFL has called the next cycle Saucy Salamander: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 [14:37] so it's not going to be "silent sabdfl" [14:37] Silent Submariner [14:37] saucy [14:37] meh [14:37] :) [14:38] knome: I'm still on backup status. May 7th is the poll and a bunch of precinct election officers have already called off. I'm able to be called up through almost the closing of the polls on the 7th so it is mostly a sit back and wait for the call-up scenario. [14:39] skellat, oh. i was talking about the voting, but good to have an update on that as well :] [14:39] Oh, for the Xubuntu shindig you mean? [14:40] shin... what? :) [14:40] Noisy party or festivities. [14:40] okay [14:40] yeah, i suppose so... :) [14:40] The Leader Election [14:40] yup [14:41] you okay with a quick PM? [14:41] Sure [14:41] great [14:49] so... [14:49] what are the main arguments against public voting anyway? [14:49] because of tecnical limitations, we can't do that with meetingology either [14:52] ? [14:52] what? [14:53] Hmm [14:53] Well, channel flooding was one plus ensuring we had a representative enough base was another [14:54] channel flooding won't be a problem most probably :) [14:54] can you elaborate a bit on the latter? [14:55] I need a second to log back into Launchpad [14:55] We've got 45 users in channel now, 694 claimed users in ~xubuntu-users on LP [14:57] With proper notice, nobody can complain they weren't told the vote was coming and that if they don't show up they forfeit having a choice [14:57] Otherwise, that's a pretty small cross-section of the membership of ~xubuntu-users [14:57] the argument against that is different timezones [14:57] Yep [14:58] which is why i would like to have some kind of possibility to vote during 24 hours [14:58] not at all costs, though, the strategy document doesn't enforce that for a good reason [14:59] the last time we voted for a project lead, we had 13 votes [15:00] Well, there is the LP poll facility [15:00] that's meh. :) [15:00] i wonder if all the members of -users get a mail when we do that? [15:01] if they do, that would possibly raise some random votes [15:01] "i'll just vote for any" [15:01] and since the number of voters was 13 last time, it doesn't take much to throw that off [15:01] i don't think a random vote is fair for anybody [15:02] Nope. LP Poll kicks out no mail at all as I learned the hard way with the "Membership Awareness" bit I ran for ~ubuntu-us-oh last week [15:02] ah [15:02] so it's as useful as nothing really. [15:02] well, it might be okay if we point people there [15:03] that would also save us from checking if people are eligible [15:03] we would only need to check against double votes [15:03] It doesn't allow double votes [15:03] we're allowing voting on the irc meeting. [15:03] Ah, no way to check that then [15:03] so theoretically one could vote in both [15:04] or then we only allow people to vote in the poll. [15:04] I'd go poll only [15:04] If you do both, you can't remove the possibility of double voting as LP won't let you track [15:04] that needs to be set 24 hours before the poll [15:04] that's fine, but we need to remember that [15:06] Yep [15:07] meh. one shouldn't do two things at the same time [15:15] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-April/008845.html [16:34] !saucy [16:34] Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [16:34] I am sad - they promised me it was going to be silly sausage :p [16:34] somebody said there's a similarly named uhm... "toy" [16:35] lol [16:35] yeah, well done again [16:40] wait...saucy or silly toy? [16:41] as it was put by somebody else, a toy which is sold in certain "adult" shops. [16:42] in "all" adult shpos, I've checked...not, about which name? [16:42] /replace fingers [16:43] umm. let's not go deeper into this (no pun intended) [16:43] yes bwana :) [16:56] Grawling Gorilla [16:56] Will be my favorite [16:57] growling* === Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703 === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U === daim2k5 is now known as daim2k5_Zzz [22:08] ... [22:09] did everyone just get kicked? === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube === ftolentino is now known as Guest92298 === Guest92298 is now known as ftolentino2 === ftolentino2 is now known as ftolentino