phillwsubman: I can't help on that one.. I'd suggest asking on the lubuntu mailing list.00:01
submanphillw, thanks for the help!00:02
phillwif you installed lubuntu ONTO ubuntu, you need to ask on ubuntu area.00:02
SonikkuAmericaLubuntu 13.04 VBoxing complete.03:08
phillwSonikkuAmerica: 13.04 was running in VBox, KVM and LVM :)03:25
SonikkuAmericaXD. I'm going to set it to the 13.10 preliminary testing as soon as it's available. :)03:26
TheMamboKingHello everyone12:49
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ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro14:17
cristinaany messenger with webcam?14:21
cristinapidgiin works?14:21
AtumHey guys, I'm having issues on lubuntu 13.04. Everytime I reboot the computer, my desktop icons get all messed up, and the wallpaper gets back to default15:14
holsteinexplain "all messed up"15:14
AtumAm I missing something? any config..15:14
Atumwell, I adjust them in a different order15:14
Atumeverytime I boot up, it gets to the default position15:15
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1843824 might be relevant, though,, i might just use something like nitrogen15:15
AtumHmm, I'll check it out15:16
Atumthanks dude :)15:16
holsteinfor me, if i wanted to use icons on the desktop like that, i would just not use LXDE..15:16
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ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro16:19
cerebrateTO THE ICE CREAM16:27
wxlcerebrate: +116:30
wxlfink ployd rulez.16:30
AtumHey guys, I'm having issues on Lubuntu 13.04. I've created some desktop icons, and changed their position on the screen. Everytime I boot up those icons get back to their default position. How do I "set" em to a fixed position?16:54
Atummaybe I should use a script to do it?16:59
holsteinAtum: i would just use a different file manager.. or DE in general17:00
Atumholstein, LXDE doesnt support those functions?17:02
Atumor it was not designed for icons?17:03
holsteinAtum: what you are going to want to look for is thunar AFAIK.. getting thunar to draw the icons like that17:04
holsteinAtum: and, what im suggesting is, maybe you would want something that is more "out of the box" the way you want it17:04
holsteini mean, its all open, so in theory, the answer is always "yes".. but, the goal of lxde in general is to be light.. not necessarily "pretty" or "persistent"17:06
PkotSuomesta ketään?17:13
PkotSo quietly17:14
AtumHmm I'll check thunar17:15
ubottuTämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)17:15
AtumSo, PCmanFM is resposable for those icon positioning, right?17:16
AtumThunar is a file manager like pcmanfm17:17
Myrttitoo late17:17
Myrtti(for the !fi factoid)17:17
holsteinyup.. missed :/17:17
holsteinyeah, its pcmanfm.. not thunar.. my bad17:17
Atumoh, ok17:18
holsteinhttp://blog.lxde.org/?p=804 is relevant17:18
AtumThat's quite useful, thanks17:19
holsteini would have been quicker with that, but i was thinking thunar for some reason..17:19
AtumI love this lxde interface, its simple, useful and beautiful. Lubuntu its such a perfect mix..17:23
phillwholstein: seems "all quiet on the Western front" (i.e. installs and upgrades seem to be working well) :)17:25
holsteinphillw: \o/17:26
fordmechanic27Has anyone used LXLE? That's what I'm on right now.18:21
Unit193Hopefully someone in #lxle has at least once. :P18:22
fordmechanic27Ha, you18:22
fordmechanic27you'd hope so18:22
pmatulisso anyone get any bruises from upgrading to 13.04 ?18:47
Unit193Only done one upgrade so far, but only thing I noticed was that I personally "needed" to hold a couple packages from upgrading, and for some reason it didn't pull in the kernel.  (Though, I use liquorix on that one, so I wouldn't use them anyway and they are easy to pull in.)18:51
wxlUnit193: needed?19:25
Unit193I had quotes on that...  In order to keep a feature functioning, and functioning without pulling in crazy depends.  (More than one package.)19:27
wxlhm, ok i'll take your word for it. i'm just trying to figure out what it might be? was it like a gtk app that went qt? (i have the opposite problem on the kubutnu machine at work; i want qalculator but they stopped qalculator-kde and now it's all qalculator-gtk)19:28
wxlahhhh well that makes sense. did we get rid of indicators in raring?19:38
Unit193You combined channels, didn't you?  They went GTK3 in quantal, which isn't compatible with GTK2 panels.  Also, the raring indicators have silly depends that bring in a couple unity packages I wasn't interested in having on the computer, and bamf, another daemon.19:42
FrankieJhey, i install lubuntu on top of ubuntu 12.04 LTS because compiz/unity was using too much memory, but now i have lubuntu, i was wondering if i can remove compiz/unity without affecting the system?21:22
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »21:29
genii-aroundI wonder if all those factoids are still applicable now ( !purelubuntu !purekde and so on)21:30
Unit193He hasn't updated it for raring yet, so it would appear.  I'm guessing he'll have it up soonish.21:32
Unit193FrankieJ: You'll of course want the 12.04 version linked at the top.21:33
Unit193genii-around: He also changed the URL, but put a redirect.21:33
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phillwUnit193: the bot on ##phillw doesn't have the factiod and I needed the link for image adding :D22:11
pluginsi need some help with plugins in browsers22:26
pluginscan i ask to someone?22:26
pluginsplease, there's anybody?22:27
wxl!ask | plugins22:27
ubottuplugins: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:27
pluginsso i have an old pc and today i decided to install lubuntu. first i tried chromium: java plugin was obsolete and flash doesn't work (java -version tell me I have java sun 8).22:29
pluginsso i removed chromium and installed opera.22:29
pluginsnow java and flash crash.22:29
pluginsopera see correct plugins (in options, etc.)22:30
pluginswhat's the problem?22:30
wxlwhich version of lubuntu?22:30
pluginsthe latest, 13.0422:30
pluginscan i control with some command?...22:30
wxlwhat version of the plugins do you have in chromium? go to chrome://plugins/22:32
wxlof course you'd need to have chromium22:32
wxli wouldn't touch opera with a 10 foot pole, but that's just me22:32
pluginsi have only opera now22:32
wxli can't help you with opera22:32
wxlhere's where you can find help with opera: http://my.opera.com/chat/blog/22:33
pluginsi'm installing chromium again22:36
wxlphillw: i had not22:51
wxlbut really shouldn't have a bearing, unless it's a ppc22:51
wxlduh duh duh DUH22:51
phillwwxl: or a low spec intel22:53
wxlphillw: do they limit java/flash versions22:53
phillwwxl: xombrero may do.22:54
wxlphillw: you'd think that xombrero is going to change his plugin versions? :)22:57
phillwwxl: it comes with none :)22:58
wxlphillw: exactly my point silly :)22:58
wxlcertainly would be lighter23:00
wxlbut i suspect the issue is plugins more than anything23:00
* wxl wonders23:00
wxl!info opera23:00
ubottuPackage opera does not exist in raring23:00
wxlyeah didn't think so23:00
* wxl wants the qt version of qalculate23:02
* wxl whines23:02
pluginshi, i'm back again.23:02
* wxl realizes this is quite offtopic23:02
wxloh hai23:02
pluginsi've removed java oracle23:02
wxlso install iced tea23:02
pluginsand set openjdk with icedtea23:02
pluginsand now java works23:03
pluginsremain shockwave flash23:03
wxl!info adobe-flashplugin ! plugins23:03
ubottu'!' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable23:03
pluginsin english, the error could be something like: "impossible to load shockwave flash"23:03
wxl!info adobe-flashplugin | plugins23:03
ubottuplugins: Package adobe-flashplugin does not exist in raring23:04
phillwwxl: adobe dropped support, it was well advertised23:04
wxlphillw: oh right but -installer and -downloader and -nonfree are still there?23:05
pluginsi've installed...23:05
pluginsflashplugin-downloader adn installer23:05
wxlwell you could always get chrome :/ or is that not a possibility either, phillw ?23:05
pluginsin chrome://plugins ->  Adobe Flash Player - Versione: 11.2 r202 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r20223:06
phillwwxl: Chromium support is a mess. that is why I personally advise a non-ubuntu ppa; on the grounds that it works. BUT, it is not 'supported' by (l)ubuntu.23:06
pluginsit seems to see this plugin23:06
wxlyou could try gnash or lightspark23:06
wxlor phillw 's solution23:07
pluginshum? i'm not so practice. i have to make this pc working for my parents and the only requests is browser everywhere without problems.23:07
pluginstell me what to do, and i'll do it.23:08
pluginsit's all the day that i'm working and i'm really tired! xD23:08
pluginsi have ubuntu on my laptop, and i have no problems with plugin. (i have opera)23:09
phillwplugins: I can chat better on #lubuntu-offtopic as my proposed solution requires you to use a ppa which is not officially supported.23:09
pluginsit's a problem of lubuntu, so?23:09
phillwplugins: it seems an issue with you and chromium23:09
pluginsso, could you tell me what to do?23:10
pluginsppa will install a plugin for shockwave?23:10
phillwplugins: I will be on #lubuntu-offtopic if you want to try it.23:10
phillwshockwave causes 100% CPU time on my system on bad sites.23:12
pluginswxl what's the gnash solution?23:13
wxlplugins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Free_Software_Alternatives23:18
pluginsi'm testing gnash23:33
pluginsand i have some problems.23:33
pluginsthe mai frame of facebook games doesn't load.23:33
pluginswxl: i have to choose the plugin23:44
pluginsor i have to install them both?23:44
wxlchoose phillw23:45
wxloops :)23:45
wxlplugins: i mean23:45
pluginsok let's change channel23:47

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