[01:18] <hays> holy balls time to update my apt-sources i guess
[01:23] <hachre> hah
[01:23] <hachre> so guys
[01:23] <hachre> IVE been thinking
[01:24] <hachre> why not use fcron as default cron?
[01:24] <hachre> the big feature I'm missing in vixie cron is the ability to get mail notifications of failed cron services
[01:38] <hachre> glad we talked about it
[01:38] <hachre> :D
[02:19] <johnjohn1011> test
[03:49] <SonikkuAmerica> This leaves us free to discuss 13.10 right?
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> not yet the channel will close shortly until it opens again, lol
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> XD Can't wait for what 13.10 will bring! And as always, I'll be running it 72 hours before the general release!
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> And seeding U/K/Xubuntu 64 and Lubuntu 32 via Transmission!
[04:12] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: I don't think we are going to be closing the channel.
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> IdleOne, Ah, they used to.
[04:25] <IdleOne> yeah we haven't the past couple of releases
[08:58] <Rompoy> hi
[11:45] <SuperLag> Will I stick out like a sore thumb going to a Linux tech conference with a Macbook Pro in hand? :)
[11:50] <jpds> SuperLag: No.
[13:04] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:30] <hggdh> SuperLag: not at all. Many use apple systems with Unix
[13:30] <hggdh> Linux even
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> I'm going to cross post this odd situation here, previously my onboard soundcard was recognized , it shows up in alsa , and i have it listed in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as Card 1 , my maudio pci soundcard is Card 0/default . The 12.10 install still sees the onboard card as Card 1 gives me the option to use it if needed. Why is it suddenly greyed out in phonon on Kubuntu 13.04.?
[13:37] <BluesKaj_> the why is rhetoriacal , since this situation seems prettu isolated
[13:38] <BluesKaj_> just wondering if this situation seems familair to anybody
[13:54] <hggdh> BluesKaj_: there is bug 1169984 on sound not working
[13:56] <BluesKaj_> hggdh, thanks that's it , no hdmi audio
[13:58] <BluesKaj_> I normally run a separate spdif coax to an audio receiver for sound , the hdmi was an option to the TV
[14:00] <hggdh> BluesKaj_: yay! I found it myself some weeks ago, when I was entering a (rather important) video conference. So now we wait for the kernel to be published.
[14:05] <BluesKaj_> hggdh, I'm installing the patch as we speak :)
[14:10] <hggdh> heh
[14:53] <BluesKaj_> hggdh, no luck, the raring deb patch doesn't have any effect , the hdmi out is still greyed out in phonon , even there's a choice of soundcards in alsamixer f6 . The fix is suppoedly in the next new kernal , guess I''l have to wait for that.
[14:53] <BluesKaj_> err kernel
[14:53] <hggdh> BluesKaj_: well, it is good to know, I was considering trying it also. Now I will wait
[14:54] <BluesKaj_> I haven't tried re-enabling in the bios , it's still set to auto for the codecs
[14:56] <BluesKaj_> some ppl must be pretty peeved by this bug , I'm glad to have the a choice
[14:57] <hggdh> I will check my laptop for bios options, but I do not think I have them. And yes, I am pretty much unhappy with it right now
[15:01] <BluesKaj_> think I
[15:01] <BluesKaj_> 'll check now
[15:29] <BluesKaj_> hggdh, tried the different settings with the audio codec in the bios , the analog out on the onboard shows up if I enable the codec. Dunno if it works since i don't have any speakers connected to theis pc.
[16:37] <tekonivel> so, what is this channel for? in limbo until Silly Salamander is opened
[16:37] <tekonivel> sorry Saucy Salamander
[16:37] <jtaylor> yes
[16:38] <jtaylor> in the past it was closed until the archive was ready, but the archive is ready very quickly now so it stays open
[16:47] <SonikkuAmerica> tekonivel: Silly Salamander eh? I do think "Saucy" is a bit over the edge
[16:47] <SonikkuAmerica> But "Touchy" would be good for 14.04 LTS with the Great Convergence and all
[16:50] <tekonivel> jtaylor: ok cool
[16:51] <tekonivel> SonikkuAmerica: touchy tortoise? or is tortoise too obvious? i haven't heard of most of these animals Ubuntu get's named after (which is really cool)
[16:51] <tekonivel> well i've heard of salamanders though
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> I saw a pangolin at the Smithsonian
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> And I know what a quetzal is
[16:52] <tekonivel> even seen some, i believe... or whatever lizzies in Spain and Puerto Rico... i have no clue what lizzies they were, in fact
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Las salamandras
[16:52] <tekonivel> i've seen quentzal in some David Addenborough -documentary, and a Narwhal i know of course (but i didn't know the term in english language)
[16:53] <BluesKaj_> ok , hggdh and those who might be interested , the hdmi audio patch here , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1169984, works with the nvidia 313 graphics driver, after installing it and updating and upgrading the hdmi audio patch reinstalls automatically
[16:53] <tekonivel> actually i think i've even seen some quentzal's in aquariumns a couple of times
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Quetzals are birds.
[16:54] <BluesKaj_> tekonivel, yup birds for sure
[16:55] <tekonivel> wth i'm confused... sorry i confused them with some other things... i know quetzals from the Ubuntu logo... sorry
[16:55] <tekonivel> i was thinking of axquetltltl or something.... a weird cave-albino-proto-frog-proto-snake -thing
[16:55] <tekonivel> oops
[16:56]  * tekonivel goes to wikipedia to learn more about ringtails
[16:57] <tekonivel> cute little bugger, this one :'-} awwww
[16:58] <BluesKaj_> some kind of primate I think
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> But Touchy Tortoise? Wouldn't that be the tortoise equiv of a snapping turtle?
[16:58] <tekonivel> but this is wrong channel for admiring ringtails now (since yesterday) ;)
[16:59] <BluesKaj_> touchy tiger
[17:08] <tekonivel> any ideas when Saucy Salamander opens? a couple of weeks
[17:09] <bazhang> it wont be anything new at that point
[17:12] <tekonivel> bazhang: sure thing... i've been in the (admittedly bad, and sometimes counter-productive) habit of running the development version with rolling updates a couple of times a day... i'm addicted, and should seek care, i guess ;)
[17:42] <lordievader> Good evening.
[23:49] <rendero> !isitout