| dholbach | good morning | 06:24 |
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| philipballew | dholbach, I'm attempting to work on a few remaining Community Website items. | 06:30 |
| dholbach | excellent | 06:30 |
| philballew | dholbach, I had a couple questions about what I should do so I do the right work and such. | 06:38 |
| philballew | would you have time for a couple questions sometime? | 06:38 |
| dholbach | sure sure | 06:38 |
| dholbach | which questions do you have? | 06:38 |
| philballew | So on the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-revamping-ubuntu-community-pages that I was asked to finish up by Jono, I have three items at the botthm. The first, (create some simple community personas:) I seem to recall Randall doing a month ago, and that is why I did not do to much with. Is there anything I can do on those to improve, or work on what he did. Also, I am unsure exactly the | 06:42 |
| philballew | best way to do the other two (talk to LoCo to define community personas and reach out to design team and/or non-Canonical designers to help us with a mockup) though I believe I can do it, I am just unsure how would be best. | 06:42 |
| philballew | dholbach, ^ | 06:44 |
| dholbach | the best thing you can do is help finish up the bits on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite | 06:44 |
| dholbach | there are some which still require work | 06:44 |
| dholbach | I'll get everything on the test site today | 06:44 |
| dholbach | so we can file a ticket with IS to move it to a more official place | 06:44 |
| dholbach | that'd be the goals for April as far as I can see :) | 06:45 |
| dholbach | so I'll spend some time on that today as well | 06:45 |
| philballew | dholbach, what needs to be done there to finish? Just read it up and fill in whatever I think is missing? Also., what do I do with my blueprint items then? | 06:46 |
| dholbach | I'll have a look over the blueprint in a bit again - I guess we can just change them to "help with finalising the content" :) | 06:46 |
| dholbach | yeah, just fill in what you think is missing | 06:46 |
| dholbach | if we find out later on that content should be changed to be more welcoming/inspiring/explaining for some parts of our community, we can still do that | 06:47 |
| dholbach | the same goes for design - we can make it prettier and maybe even more interactive in a second cut | 06:47 |
| dholbach | but up-to-date content should come first I feel | 06:47 |
| philballew | dholbach, alright, Id just hate to do what the blueprint say and find out something else was needed. I need top prioritize my time now because next week is college finals and I will go dark for a week. Though tonight If what is needed to do in order to compleate the blueprint is make sure that page has everything I think it needs I can do that. | 06:48 |
| dholbach | perfect | 06:49 |
| dholbach | thanks so much for taking the time | 06:49 |
| dholbach | I know you have a lot going on right now | 06:49 |
| philballew | dholbach, not a problem. | 06:50 |
| dholbach | :-) | 06:50 |
| dholbach | mhall119, can you please look at "Ubuntu: Main Index Template (index.php)" later on and make it writable? | 06:51 |
| dholbach | (that is on the WP test instance - I'm sort of blocked) | 06:53 |
| philballew | dholbach, where is the website to critique. I looked at the Wiki link, but should I be looking at the actual community website? | 07:11 |
| dholbach | critique? I'm not quite sure what you're after | 07:11 |
| dholbach | philballew, the pieces of text we're writing are linked from that wiki page | 07:12 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite | 07:12 |
| philballew | What I am after i to do a job, but I am unsure what exactly I am supposed to do. When you say "finish up the bits" on that link you provided, is that wiki page gonna be the actual community site? | 07:14 |
| philballew | because if not I am unsure what site to actually try to edit. | 07:14 |
| popey | Good morning! | 07:16 |
| dholbach | no | 07:16 |
| dholbach | it'll be a wordpress site to which we copy over the text bits which are in the pad documents linked from the wiki site | 07:16 |
| dholbach | hey popey, hey dpm | 07:17 |
| philballew | yeah, so I need to be able to see that site so I can tell if I think something needs to be there right? | 07:17 |
| dpm | morning all | 07:17 |
| dpm | hey dholbach | 07:17 |
| philballew | popey, dpm hola! | 07:17 |
| dpm | hola philballew :) | 07:17 |
| bkerensa | popey: why are you not vacationing? | 07:18 |
| dholbach | philballew, the pad pages are where we edit the content | 07:18 |
| bkerensa | Not taking the Friday after release off? | 07:18 |
| bkerensa | :d | 07:18 |
| dholbach | so all the ones which are not marked "Done" yet | 07:18 |
| philballew | dpm, come esta? | 07:19 |
| philballew | *como | 07:19 |
| popey | bkerensa: no, i didnt go out for the release party last night, was working late | 07:19 |
| popey | I am going to the UK's longest running beer festival tonight though ☻ | 07:19 |
| popey | then flying to SFO tomorrow ⍨ | 07:19 |
| philballew | popey, why you coming here? | 07:20 |
| dpm | philballew, bien, bien, gracias, ¿y tu? ¿Practicando español? | 07:20 |
| popey | sprint | 07:20 |
| popey | loads of us are | 07:20 |
| philballew | dpm, I speak spanish well enough. I live say 20 km's from Mexico. | 07:20 |
| popey | The only thing i can say in spanish is "Where are the ashtrays" | 07:21 |
| popey | which is ironic given I don't smoke | 07:21 |
| bkerensa | popey: enjoy oakland | 07:21 |
| philballew | popey, I was kinda hoping you were coming to bring me British tea, but it's okay. | 07:21 |
| popey | will try to ☻ | 07:21 |
| popey | haha | 07:21 |
| bkerensa | yeah where is the marmite | 07:22 |
| philballew | I would say there is really no way to "enjoy Oakland" | 07:22 |
| bkerensa | pfft | 07:22 |
| bkerensa | philballew: Oh :) if you go driving around Oakland late at night its pretty fun | 07:22 |
| philballew | bkerensa, yeah, it's nice as long as I have a Kalashnikov. | 07:23 |
| philballew | popey, So if all the Canonical people are in Oakland for a sprint, how much is Canonical actually going to be involved with the upcoming online UDS? | 07:24 |
| popey | UDS isn't the same week as the sprint | 07:24 |
| philballew | I know, but they will th erotically have gotten all there meetings out of the way. | 07:25 |
| bkerensa | popey: you guys are just finishing up the deal you guys got with the marriott right? | 07:25 |
| popey | bkerensa: dunno, that's travel admin ☻ | 07:25 |
| popey | philballew: we almost always have a sprint before UDS | 07:25 |
| popey | no change there | 07:25 |
| philballew | popey, yes. I know that. | 07:25 |
| popey | and its not the entire company sprinting | 07:26 |
| dholbach | "erotically" and "meetings" in the same sentence doesn't make sense | 07:26 |
| dholbach | :-P | 07:26 |
| philballew | But with UDS now being online does that mean that all Canonical employees are still required to attend? | 07:27 |
| dholbach | yeah, that's where the work items and blueprints will be made | 07:28 |
| * philballew will attend in hopes to sport his Windows Server 2003 shirt for all to see. | 07:29 | |
| dholbach | haha | 07:29 |
| dholbach | all right, got to take the dog for a walk | 07:31 |
| philballew | I'll also make sure to say yolo as many times as I can | 07:31 |
| philballew | Maybe change my irc name to swag | 07:31 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 07:32 |
| philballew | bkerensa, whats wrong? | 07:32 |
| bkerensa | I don't like that Yolo/swag nonsense | 07:32 |
| philballew | bkerensa, me either. | 07:32 |
| philballew | But to each their own right? | 07:33 |
| bkerensa | indeed | 07:34 |
| bkerensa | philballew: when you come up your going to have to see my mobile solar panels | 07:35 |
| bkerensa | :D | 07:35 |
| popey | ooh, that reminds me | 07:35 |
| popey | i need one of those solar battery pack things for charging devices | 07:35 |
| philballew | bkerensa, yeah, when I come up. I need to money first. | 07:35 |
| philballew | I spent all my money on a plane ticket to df (Mexico City) | 07:35 |
| bkerensa | philballew: I have one these http://www.goalzero.com/yeti150/ | 07:36 |
| popey | blimey thats huge | 07:37 |
| philballew | bkerensa, Thats pretty cool. I have one of these: http://www.home360.co.il/pictures/4239tw.jpg | 07:37 |
| popey | i was thinking more the small pocket things ☻ | 07:37 |
| bkerensa | philballew: that doesnt go on the bike | 07:37 |
| bkerensa | :D | 07:37 |
| bkerensa | popey: the irony is we dont have enough sun here to use it for but 4 months here | 07:38 |
| philballew | bkerensa, I solely ride a bike. | 07:38 |
| philballew | bkerensa, San Diego has more sun then we know what to do with | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | philballew: you could resell it | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | :P | 07:38 |
| philballew | I do take the bus though when I go to Mexico for the afternoon | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | Odd enough Oregon is becoming one of the largest solar producing states yet we have no sun :s | 07:38 |
| philballew | Not many people can leave the country for an afternoon in the states | 07:39 |
| bkerensa | philballew: true... I envy that... Mexico is good fun | 07:39 |
| popey | we rarely get any sun at all | 07:39 |
| popey | but I am going on a boat trip soon and want a solar charger for my phone | 07:39 |
| bkerensa | philballew: we will have to do a product trade soon... I need some mexican blankets | 07:39 |
| bkerensa | :) | 07:39 |
| popey | because power on the boat is limited | 07:39 |
| bkerensa | they still go for three for $5? | 07:40 |
| bkerensa | :) | 07:40 |
| philballew | TJ is a lot better than it was. Three years ago and it was a scary place. | 07:40 |
| philballew | bkerensa, I am header there on Wednesday, I can snag you one of you want | 07:40 |
| philballew | there gonna be under 10 for sure | 07:40 |
| bkerensa | popey: http://www.solio.com/chargers/ perfect for cells | 07:41 |
| philballew | *headed | 07:42 |
| philballew | bkerensa, I usuallt only pay in pesos unless its a street vendor since they pick the conversation rate and its always gonna be in their favor. | 07:42 |
| philballew | *usually | 07:43 |
| philballew | but yeah, I can grab you something if you want | 07:43 |
| bkerensa | philballew: I should just come down to San Diego | 07:43 |
| philballew | bkerensa, It's true, you should. | 07:43 |
| philballew | tj has an airport to... | 07:44 |
| bkerensa | screw that :s | 07:44 |
| philballew | cheap flights to anywhere in the south | 07:44 |
| philballew | Its how my friends go to Cuba | 07:44 |
| philballew | I mean, not go to Cuba because you can not go there. | 07:44 |
| philballew | dholbach, I have read all the pads and sen a few things I think might look good to add. I went ahead and wrote them down. | 07:45 |
| philballew | figured youd want to know and all | 07:46 |
| dholbach | philballew, cool! | 08:09 |
| dholbach | philballew, which ones did you update? | 08:09 |
| popey | hmm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades could do with some love | 08:10 |
| philballew | dholbach, added a little bit to meeting others that enjoy Ubuntu, under help and information, and some under advocacy from the contributive section. Not much, but something. | 08:11 |
| dholbach | cool | 08:12 |
| dholbach | thanks a bunch | 08:12 |
| philballew | dholbach, so what would you think should be done with my other blueprint items of reaching out to locos and the design team. Because I think I should not reach oth to the design team till after we have the site for them to work on. | 08:12 |
| dholbach | yeah, let's do that for rev2 | 08:12 |
| dholbach | I'll update the blueprint later on | 08:12 |
| philballew | Im changing the community personas one to DONE since I worked with randall ont at a while ago | 08:13 |
| philballew | and the other two I am not sure I csan do until the site is live or able for people to see... | 08:14 |
| philballew | I mean, were not that far along | 08:14 |
| dholbach | sure | 08:14 |
| philballew | dholbach, I can do a better job on both of those after the 4th or may when i am out of college for the summer holiday. I dont wanna half ass anything... | 08:15 |
| dholbach | sure, that makes perfect sense | 08:16 |
| philballew | alright. sweet! | 08:16 |
| * philballew wonders off as it is 1am here | 08:16 | |
| dholbach | balloons, if you could review http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality asap, that'd be good | 08:50 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: Do me a flavor and check if LoCo items are filled into the support contributions community etherpad plz | 09:39 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, sure, in a bit | 10:06 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, yes | 10:06 |
| dholbach | hey are | 10:06 |
| dholbach | they are | 10:06 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: Review then please:) | 10:07 |
| smartboyhw | Signing it off | 10:07 |
| dholbach | yes, I'll go through them one by one today | 10:07 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: :) | 10:07 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach: What will happen after all the pages are copied to test instance? | 10:08 |
| dholbach | we'll ask IS to deploy on a more official server | 10:13 |
| dholbach | that'll then be community.u.c rev1 :) | 10:13 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | wish I could getthis fixed :) may need to poke the lpappders nicely https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1172743 | 11:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1172743 in Launchpad itself "Please, put the 'Does this bug affect you?' link very close to the add-comment-form textarea" [Undecided,New] | 11:29 |
| dholbach | dpm, ping | 11:47 |
| dpm | dholbach, pong | 11:48 |
| dholbach | dpm, got time for a very quick hangout? | 11:48 |
| dpm | dholbach, could we have it in 10 min? I need to fix something in translation templates before a cron job kicks in in ~10 | 11:49 |
| dpm | I might be ready before that, though | 11:49 |
| dholbach | ok, just ping me - I have to rush off to an appointment soon, but it might still work out | 11:49 |
| dpm | ok | 11:49 |
| dholbach | (if not we can talk when I'm back) | 11:50 |
| dpm | dholbach, ok, I'm done | 11:56 |
| dholbach | dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/141376c14348da71fc74f5f45f182399d559bbfe?authuser=0&hl=de | 11:56 |
| smartboyhw | czajkowski: Are the new LoCo Council members here? I want to congrat them:) | 12:12 |
| czajkowski | smartboyhw: I dont see their irc nicks, you can look at their lp page and you'll be able to see it | 12:13 |
| smartboyhw | Ok | 12:17 |
| dholbach | JoseeAntonioR, it might be good to get a session about autopkgtest for UOW - what do you think? maybe pitti has something already prepared :) | 13:51 |
| smartboyhw_ | dholbach: Not to interrupt, but isn't that for the UDW? | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw_ | … | 13:52 |
| dholbach | still I think it'd be something people might be interested in | 13:52 |
| dholbach | and it's important :) | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw_ | dholbach: And BTW, after you copied the etherpads to the community website test instance lemme have a look:P | 13:53 |
| dholbach | yes, sure | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw_ | dholbach: For autopkgtest, possible to integrate it into the Ubuntu Community QA team session? | 13:54 |
| dholbach | not sure if it can be covered in 5-10m | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw_ | dholbach: I'm not sure that is a topic for really new contributors either. | 13:56 |
| dholbach | personally I feel that people who know a bit of scripting or a bit of a programming language can get involved there | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw_ | For UOW | 13:56 |
| dholbach | it's a quite isolated thing where you don't need to know much about packaging or have a deep understanding of how the distro works in general | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw_ | dholbach: Then they should join UDW. I would rather want to see what other teams will join… of course | 13:57 |
| dholbach | I mean I'm going to do do a "intro to ubunu development" too | 13:57 |
| dholbach | and I'm not saying that it should absolutely be there | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw_ | JoseeAntonioR is making a decision | 13:57 |
| * smartboyhw_ has no decision in this matter, IIRC | 13:58 | |
| dholbach | we discussed bringing autopkgtest into UDW and UOW at the last UDS as it is an important topic for Ubuntu and it should get some publicity | 13:58 |
| dholbach | but if there are more important or more relevant things for UOW I absolutely won't object | 13:58 |
| dholbach | see it as a "idea at UDS" driven suggestion | 13:59 |
| dholbach | not a strict requirement | 13:59 |
| smartboyhw_ | ok | 13:59 |
| smartboyhw_ | But that will be 3 sessions out of 10:O | 13:59 |
| smartboyhw_ | For dev | 14:01 |
| dholbach | understood, I'll leave the decision to somebody else | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw_ | a.k.a. JoseeAntonioR:P | 14:02 |
| jcastro | czajkowski: the maas tag could use some love | 14:19 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: I'm not CDO anymore :) | 14:23 |
| jcastro | oh | 14:30 |
| * czajkowski is online services | 14:31 | |
| czajkowski | No lpadders is under CDO any more | 14:31 |
| czajkowski | I'm not into guitars at all but this is amazing https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=330539833725285 | 15:00 |
| czajkowski | for those not on FB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyadfm94oxE | 15:00 |
| czajkowski | JoseeAntonioR: ping a ling | 15:16 |
| czajkowski | so nice to be the one pinging for a change :) | 15:16 |
| smartboyhw_ | lol | 15:17 |
| SergioMeneses | morning everybody! | 15:22 |
| SergioMeneses | http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2013/04/26/pablo-rubianes-and-marcos-costales-appointed-to-the-lococouncil/ | 15:22 |
| chilicuil | ubuntu didn't participated again in the google summer of code this year =( | 15:24 |
| czajkowski | chilicuil: it's not that it didn't | 15:25 |
| czajkowski | it wasn't accepted it did apply thanks to folks in here | 15:25 |
| chilicuil | czajkowski: ohh, got it, well maybe next year =) | 15:26 |
| czajkowski | yup | 15:26 |
| SergioMeneses | chilicuil, \o\ sure! | 15:27 |
| bkerensa | Woah Mozilla is discussing opening its private intranet and LDAP tools to commmunity | 15:28 |
| bkerensa | :o | 15:28 |
| smartboyhw_ | bkerensa: :O | 15:28 |
| bkerensa | craziness | 15:28 |
| chilicuil | that would be awesome, specially the ldap tools =)_ | 15:28 |
| bkerensa | uh yeah | 15:28 |
| bkerensa | we would have the same corporate tools as MoCo | 15:29 |
| bkerensa | :D | 15:29 |
| bkerensa | I guess its the next logical step since we have budget and office space already | 15:29 |
| smartboyhw_ | :) | 15:30 |
| jono | mhall119, hey | 16:55 |
| jono | can you promote your cook on social media? | 16:55 |
| jono | would be cool to build some buzz around it | 16:55 |
| mhall119 | jono: I will when I can, trying to unblock dholbach | 16:58 |
| jono | np :-) | 16:59 |
| jono | no urgency | 16:59 |
| jcastro | popey: I can't believe I am only now discovering Spotify | 17:42 |
| jcastro | this is freaking awesome | 17:42 |
| dholbach | mhall119, thanks a bunch for your help | 17:44 |
| dholbach | all right my friends - see some of you in Oakland - big hugs and have a great WE! | 17:44 |
| jcastro | \o/ | 17:44 |
| SergioMeneses | :O | 17:45 |
| SergioMeneses | mhall119, around? | 18:35 |
| mhall119 | SergioMeneses: yes sir | 18:44 |
| SergioMeneses | mhall119, check your email ;) | 18:44 |
| SergioMeneses | mmm... dpm is not here =/ | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | thanks SergioMeneses | 18:50 |
| SergioMeneses | mhall119, I think it will be helpful ;) | 18:50 |
| mhall119 | SergioMeneses: yup | 18:51 |
| mhall119 | jono: adding pictured to bbqpad is fun, but it definitely needs an easy way to upload them directly from my phone | 18:53 |
| jono | mhall119, you should be able to just do it from your phone | 19:12 |
| jono | you tap the pic upload button and select it from your gallery | 19:12 |
| mhall119 | jono: ah, mobile website? | 19:13 |
| jono | mhall119, no the normal website on your phone | 19:13 |
| jono | our site uses responsive design | 19:13 |
| mhall119 | nice | 19:14 |
| jono | mhall119, let me know if you have any issues with it | 19:14 |
| mhall119 | jono: so I added an image, it seems to have uploaded it, but it's not redirecting me from the "Add Photo" page back to my cook page | 19:16 |
| jono | mhall119, weird | 19:17 |
| mhall119 | yeah, it uploaded ok, I see it on my desktop browser | 19:17 |
| jono | mhall119, thanks for letting me know | 19:17 |
| jono | will log it as a bug | 19:17 |
| mhall119 | it'd be cool if your phone's camera could act as an IR thermometer | 19:18 |
| mhall119 | jono: http://ubuntuone.com/2x5oDRfEQpgVTc03ryfemw on my N7 | 19:21 |
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| jono | mhall119, looks pretty good :-) | 19:23 |
| jcastro | jono: I'm only saying this before I care | 19:57 |
| jcastro | but ... | 19:57 |
| jcastro | I mean _because_ I care | 19:57 |
| jono | jcastro, uh oh | 19:58 |
| jcastro | but like, you're just taking the existing amount of words you had before and splitting them into three paragraphs. | 19:58 |
| jcastro | it's just as wordy as the usual one | 19:58 |
| jcastro | with 3 linebreaks, lol. | 19:58 |
| jono | jcastro, not really, many of previous posts were *much* bigger | 19:58 |
| jono | jcastro, as an example, my last post before I came up with 3PB http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/04/17/community-leadership-summit-training-and-talks/ | 19:59 |
| jcastro | It's like Rush. "We decided the songs were getting too long, so we trimmed then down." and they go from 18 minutes to 9 minutes. | 19:59 |
| jono | or the one before: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/smart-scopes-not-landing-in-13-04-will-land-in-13-10/ | 19:59 |
| jcastro | "there we go, 9 minutes, that's radio friendly." | 19:59 |
| jono | or the one before that: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/introducing-bbqpad/ | 19:59 |
| jono | so the three entries before 3PB were huge | 19:59 |
| jono | :-) | 19:59 |
| jono | or the one before that:http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/26/more-regular-open-and-transparent-planning/ | 20:00 |
| jono | and before that: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/18/recent-ubuntu-community-refinements/ | 20:00 |
| jono | ooh, and look at this one: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/14/refining-and-improving-virtual-uds/ | 20:00 |
| jcastro | what's aq's opinion on 3pb? | 20:00 |
| jono | every one of those is huge :-) | 20:00 |
| jono | haven't talked to him about it | 20:00 |
| jcastro | ok I'll ask him later | 20:01 |
| mhall119 | jono: your defense of TPB has not exceeded the length of a TPB :) | 20:01 |
| mhall119 | *now | 20:01 |
| jono | lol | 20:01 |
| IdleOne | jono supports piracy! More at 11! | 20:08 |
| jono | lol | 20:08 |
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