[06:24] <dholbach> good morning
[06:30] <philipballew> dholbach, I'm attempting to work on a few remaining Community Website items.
[06:30] <dholbach> excellent
[06:38] <philballew> dholbach, I had a couple questions about what I should do so I do the right work and such.
[06:38] <philballew> would you have time for a couple questions sometime?
[06:38] <dholbach> sure sure
[06:38] <dholbach> which questions do you have?
[06:42] <philballew> So on the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-revamping-ubuntu-community-pages that I was asked to finish up by Jono, I have three items at the botthm. The first, (create some simple community personas:) I seem to recall Randall doing a month ago, and that is why I did not do to much with. Is there anything I can do on those to improve, or work on what he did. Also, I am unsure exactly the
[06:42] <philballew> best way to do the other two (talk to LoCo to define community personas and reach out to design team and/or non-Canonical designers to help us with a mockup) though I believe I can do it, I am just unsure how would be best.
[06:44] <philballew> dholbach, ^
[06:44] <dholbach> the best thing you can do is help finish up the bits on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite
[06:44] <dholbach> there are some which still require work
[06:44] <dholbach> I'll get everything on the test site today
[06:44] <dholbach> so we can file a ticket with IS to move it to a more official place
[06:45] <dholbach> that'd be the goals for April as far as I can see :)
[06:45] <dholbach> so I'll spend some time on that today as well
[06:46] <philballew> dholbach, what needs to be done there to finish? Just read it up and fill in whatever I think is missing? Also., what do I do with my blueprint items then?
[06:46] <dholbach> I'll have a look over the blueprint in a bit again - I guess we can just change them to "help with finalising the content" :)
[06:46] <dholbach> yeah, just fill in what you think is missing
[06:47] <dholbach> if we find out later on that content should be changed to be more welcoming/inspiring/explaining for some parts of our community, we can still do that
[06:47] <dholbach> the same goes for design - we can make it prettier and maybe even more interactive in a second cut
[06:47] <dholbach> but up-to-date content should come first I feel
[06:48] <philballew> dholbach, alright, Id just hate to do what the blueprint say and find out something else was needed. I need top prioritize my time now because next week is college finals and I will go dark for a week. Though tonight If what is needed to do in order to compleate the blueprint is make sure that page has everything I think it needs I can do that.
[06:49] <dholbach> perfect
[06:49] <dholbach> thanks so much for taking the time
[06:49] <dholbach> I know you have a lot going on right now
[06:50] <philballew> dholbach, not a problem.
[06:50] <dholbach> :-)
[06:51] <dholbach> mhall119, can you please look at "Ubuntu: Main Index Template (index.php)" later on and make it writable?
[06:53] <dholbach> (that is on the WP test instance - I'm sort of blocked)
[07:11] <philballew> dholbach, where is the website to critique. I looked at the Wiki link, but should I be looking at the actual community website?
[07:11] <dholbach> critique? I'm not quite sure what you're after
[07:12] <dholbach> philballew, the pieces of text we're writing are linked from that wiki page
[07:12] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite
[07:14] <philballew> What I am after i to do a job, but I am unsure what exactly I am supposed to do. When you say "finish up the bits" on that link you provided, is that wiki page gonna be the actual community site?
[07:14] <philballew> because if not I am unsure what site to actually try to edit.
[07:16] <popey> Good morning!
[07:16] <dholbach> no
[07:16] <dholbach> it'll be a wordpress site to which we copy over the text bits which are in the pad documents linked from the wiki site
[07:17] <dholbach> hey popey, hey dpm
[07:17] <philballew> yeah, so I need to be able to see that site so I can tell if I think something needs to be there right?
[07:17] <dpm> morning all
[07:17] <dpm> hey dholbach
[07:17] <philballew> popey, dpm hola!
[07:17] <dpm> hola philballew :)
[07:18] <bkerensa> popey: why are you not vacationing?
[07:18] <dholbach> philballew, the pad pages are where we edit the content
[07:18] <bkerensa> Not taking the Friday after release off?
[07:18] <bkerensa> :d
[07:18] <dholbach> so all the ones which are not marked "Done" yet
[07:19] <philballew> dpm, come esta?
[07:19] <philballew> *como
[07:19] <popey> bkerensa: no, i didnt go out for the release party last night, was working late
[07:19] <popey> I am going to the UK's longest running beer festival tonight though ☻
[07:19] <popey> then flying to SFO tomorrow ⍨
[07:20] <philballew> popey, why you coming here?
[07:20] <dpm> philballew, bien, bien, gracias, ¿y tu? ¿Practicando español?
[07:20] <popey> sprint
[07:20] <popey> loads of us are
[07:20] <philballew> dpm, I speak spanish well enough. I live say 20 km's from Mexico.
[07:21] <popey> The only thing i can say in spanish is "Where are the ashtrays"
[07:21] <popey> which is ironic given I don't smoke
[07:21] <bkerensa> popey: enjoy oakland
[07:21] <philballew> popey, I was kinda hoping you were coming to bring me British tea, but it's okay.
[07:21] <popey> will try to ☻
[07:21] <popey> haha
[07:22] <bkerensa> yeah where is the marmite
[07:22] <philballew> I would say there is really no way to "enjoy Oakland"
[07:22] <bkerensa> pfft
[07:22] <bkerensa> philballew: Oh :) if you go driving around Oakland late at night its pretty fun
[07:23] <philballew> bkerensa, yeah, it's nice as long as I have a Kalashnikov.
[07:24] <philballew> popey, So if all the Canonical people are in Oakland for a sprint, how much is Canonical actually going to be involved with the upcoming online UDS?
[07:24] <popey> UDS isn't the same week as the sprint
[07:25] <philballew> I know, but they will th erotically have gotten all there meetings out of the way.
[07:25] <bkerensa> popey: you guys are just finishing up the deal you guys got with the marriott right?
[07:25] <popey> bkerensa: dunno, that's travel admin ☻
[07:25] <popey> philballew: we almost always have a sprint before UDS
[07:25] <popey> no change there
[07:25] <philballew> popey, yes. I know that.
[07:26] <popey> and its not the entire company sprinting
[07:26] <dholbach> "erotically" and "meetings" in the same sentence doesn't make sense
[07:26] <dholbach> :-P
[07:27] <philballew> But with UDS now being online does that mean that all Canonical employees are still required to attend?
[07:28] <dholbach> yeah, that's where the work items and blueprints will be made
[07:29]  * philballew will attend in hopes to sport his Windows Server 2003 shirt for all to see.
[07:29] <dholbach> haha
[07:31] <dholbach> all right, got to take the dog for a walk
[07:31] <philballew> I'll also make sure to  say yolo as many times as I can
[07:31] <philballew> Maybe change my irc name to swag
[07:32] <bkerensa> =/
[07:32] <philballew> bkerensa, whats wrong?
[07:32] <bkerensa> I don't like that Yolo/swag nonsense
[07:32] <philballew> bkerensa, me either.
[07:33] <philballew> But to each their own right?
[07:34] <bkerensa> indeed
[07:35] <bkerensa> philballew: when you come up your going to have to see my mobile solar panels
[07:35] <bkerensa> :D
[07:35] <popey> ooh, that reminds me
[07:35] <popey> i need one of those solar battery pack things for charging devices
[07:35] <philballew> bkerensa, yeah, when I come up. I need to money first.
[07:35] <philballew> I spent all my money on a plane ticket to df (Mexico City)
[07:36] <bkerensa> philballew: I have one these http://www.goalzero.com/yeti150/
[07:37] <popey> blimey thats huge
[07:37] <philballew> bkerensa, Thats pretty cool. I have one of these: http://www.home360.co.il/pictures/4239tw.jpg
[07:37] <popey> i was thinking more the small pocket things ☻
[07:37] <bkerensa> philballew: that doesnt go on the bike
[07:37] <bkerensa> :D
[07:38] <bkerensa> popey: the irony is we dont have enough sun here to use it for but 4 months here
[07:38] <philballew> bkerensa, I solely ride a bike.
[07:38] <philballew> bkerensa, San Diego has more sun then we know what to do with
[07:38] <bkerensa> philballew: you could resell it
[07:38] <bkerensa> :P
[07:38] <philballew> I do take the bus though when I go to Mexico for the afternoon
[07:38] <bkerensa> Odd enough Oregon is becoming one of the largest solar producing states yet we have no sun :s
[07:39] <philballew> Not many people can leave the country for an afternoon in the states
[07:39] <bkerensa> philballew: true... I envy that... Mexico is good fun
[07:39] <popey> we rarely get any sun at all
[07:39] <popey> but I am going on a boat trip soon and want a solar charger for my phone
[07:39] <bkerensa> philballew: we will have to do a product trade soon... I need some mexican blankets
[07:39] <bkerensa> :)
[07:39] <popey> because power on the boat is limited
[07:40] <bkerensa> they still go for three for $5?
[07:40] <bkerensa> :)
[07:40] <philballew> TJ is a lot better than it was. Three years ago and it was a scary place.
[07:40] <philballew> bkerensa, I am header there on Wednesday, I can snag you one of you want
[07:40] <philballew> there gonna be under 10 for sure
[07:41] <bkerensa> popey: http://www.solio.com/chargers/ perfect for cells
[07:42] <philballew> *headed
[07:42] <philballew> bkerensa, I usuallt only pay in pesos unless its a street vendor since they pick the conversation rate and its always gonna be in their favor.
[07:43] <philballew> *usually
[07:43] <philballew> but yeah, I can grab you something if you want
[07:43] <bkerensa> philballew: I should just come down to San Diego
[07:43] <philballew> bkerensa, It's true, you should.
[07:44] <philballew> tj has an airport to...
[07:44] <bkerensa> screw that :s
[07:44] <philballew> cheap flights to anywhere in the south
[07:44] <philballew> Its how my friends go to Cuba
[07:44] <philballew> I mean, not go to Cuba because you can not go there.
[07:45] <philballew> dholbach, I have read all the pads and sen a few things I think might look good to add. I went ahead and wrote them down.
[07:46] <philballew> figured youd want to know and all
[08:09] <dholbach> philballew, cool!
[08:09] <dholbach> philballew, which ones did you update?
[08:10] <popey> hmm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades could do with some love
[08:11] <philballew> dholbach, added a little bit to meeting others that enjoy Ubuntu,  under help and information, and some under advocacy from the contributive section. Not much, but something.
[08:12] <dholbach> cool
[08:12] <dholbach> thanks a bunch
[08:12] <philballew> dholbach, so what would you think should be done with my other blueprint items of reaching out to locos and the design team. Because I think I should not reach oth to the design team till after we have the site for them to work on.
[08:12] <dholbach> yeah, let's do that for rev2
[08:12] <dholbach> I'll update the blueprint later on
[08:13] <philballew> Im changing the community personas one to DONE since I worked with randall ont at a while ago
[08:14] <philballew> and the other two I am not sure I csan do until the site is live or able for people to see...
[08:14] <philballew> I mean, were not that far along
[08:14] <dholbach> sure
[08:15] <philballew> dholbach, I can do a better job on both of those after the 4th or may when i am out of college for the summer holiday. I dont wanna half ass anything...
[08:16] <dholbach> sure, that makes perfect sense
[08:16] <philballew> alright. sweet!
[08:16]  * philballew wonders off as it is 1am here
[08:50] <dholbach> balloons, if you could review http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality asap, that'd be good
[09:39] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Do me a flavor and check if LoCo items are filled into the support contributions community etherpad plz
[10:06] <dholbach> smartboyhw, sure, in a bit
[10:06] <dholbach> smartboyhw, yes
[10:06] <dholbach> hey are
[10:06] <dholbach> they are
[10:07] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Review then please:)
[10:07] <smartboyhw> Signing it off
[10:07] <dholbach> yes, I'll go through them one by one today
[10:07] <smartboyhw> dholbach: :)
[10:08] <smartboyhw> dholbach: What will happen after all the pages are copied to test instance?
[10:13] <dholbach> we'll ask IS to deploy on a more official server
[10:13] <dholbach> that'll then be community.u.c rev1 :)
[10:14] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:29] <czajkowski> wish I could getthis fixed :) may need to poke the lpappders nicely https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1172743
[11:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172743 in Launchpad itself "Please, put the 'Does this bug affect you?' link very close to the add-comment-form textarea" [Undecided,New]
[11:47] <dholbach> dpm, ping
[11:48] <dpm> dholbach, pong
[11:48] <dholbach> dpm, got time for a very quick hangout?
[11:49] <dpm> dholbach, could we have it in 10 min? I need to fix something in translation templates before a cron job kicks in in ~10
[11:49] <dpm> I might be ready before that, though
[11:49] <dholbach> ok, just ping me - I have to rush off to an appointment soon, but it might still work out
[11:49] <dpm> ok
[11:50] <dholbach> (if not we can talk when I'm back)
[11:56] <dpm> dholbach, ok, I'm done
[11:56] <dholbach> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/141376c14348da71fc74f5f45f182399d559bbfe?authuser=0&hl=de
[12:12] <smartboyhw> czajkowski: Are the new LoCo Council members here? I want to congrat them:)
[12:13] <czajkowski> smartboyhw: I dont see their irc nicks, you can look at their lp page and you'll be able to see it
[12:17] <smartboyhw> Ok
[13:51] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, it might be good to get a session about autopkgtest for UOW - what do you think? maybe pitti has something already prepared :)
[13:52] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: Not to interrupt, but isn't that for the UDW?
[13:52] <smartboyhw_> …
[13:52] <dholbach> still I think it'd be something people might be interested in
[13:52] <dholbach> and it's important :)
[13:53] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: And BTW, after you copied the etherpads to the community website test instance lemme have a look:P
[13:53] <dholbach> yes, sure
[13:54] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: For autopkgtest, possible to integrate it into the Ubuntu Community QA team session?
[13:54] <dholbach> not sure if it can be covered in 5-10m
[13:56] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: I'm not sure that is a topic for really new contributors either.
[13:56] <dholbach> personally I feel that people who know a bit of scripting or a bit of a programming language can get involved there
[13:56] <smartboyhw_> For UOW
[13:57] <dholbach> it's a quite isolated thing where you don't need to know much about packaging or have a deep understanding of how the distro works in general
[13:57] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: Then they should join UDW. I would rather want to see what other teams will join… of course
[13:57] <dholbach> I mean I'm going to do do a "intro to ubunu development" too
[13:57] <dholbach> and I'm not saying that it should absolutely be there
[13:57] <smartboyhw_> JoseeAntonioR is making a decision
[13:58]  * smartboyhw_ has no decision in this matter, IIRC
[13:58] <dholbach> we discussed bringing autopkgtest into UDW and UOW at the last UDS as it is an important topic for Ubuntu and it should get some publicity
[13:58] <dholbach> but if there are more important or more relevant things for UOW I absolutely won't object
[13:59] <dholbach> see it as a "idea at UDS" driven suggestion
[13:59] <dholbach> not a strict requirement
[13:59] <smartboyhw_> ok
[13:59] <smartboyhw_> But that will be 3 sessions out of 10:O
[14:01] <smartboyhw_> For dev
[14:01] <dholbach> understood, I'll leave the decision to somebody else
[14:02] <smartboyhw_> a.k.a. JoseeAntonioR:P
[14:19] <jcastro> czajkowski: the maas tag could use some love
[14:23] <czajkowski> jcastro: I'm not CDO anymore :)
[14:30] <jcastro> oh
[14:31]  * czajkowski is online services 
[14:31] <czajkowski> No lpadders is under CDO any more
[15:00] <czajkowski> I'm not into guitars at all but this is amazing https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=330539833725285
[15:00] <czajkowski> for those not on FB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyadfm94oxE
[15:16] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: ping a ling
[15:16] <czajkowski> so nice to be the one pinging for a change :)
[15:17] <smartboyhw_> lol
[15:22] <SergioMeneses> morning everybody!
[15:22] <SergioMeneses> http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2013/04/26/pablo-rubianes-and-marcos-costales-appointed-to-the-lococouncil/
[15:24] <chilicuil> ubuntu didn't participated again in the google summer of code this year =(
[15:25] <czajkowski> chilicuil: it's not that it didn't
[15:25] <czajkowski> it wasn't accepted it did apply thanks to folks in here
[15:26] <chilicuil> czajkowski: ohh, got it, well maybe next year =)
[15:26] <czajkowski> yup
[15:27] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, \o\ sure!
[15:28] <bkerensa> Woah Mozilla is discussing opening its private intranet and LDAP tools to commmunity
[15:28] <bkerensa> :o
[15:28] <smartboyhw_> bkerensa: :O
[15:28] <bkerensa> craziness
[15:28] <chilicuil> that would be awesome, specially the ldap tools =)_
[15:28] <bkerensa> uh yeah
[15:29] <bkerensa> we would have the same corporate tools as MoCo
[15:29] <bkerensa> :D
[15:29] <bkerensa> I guess its the next logical step since we have budget and office space already
[15:30] <smartboyhw_> :)
[16:55] <jono> mhall119, hey
[16:55] <jono> can you promote your cook on social media?
[16:55] <jono> would be cool to build some buzz around it
[16:58] <mhall119> jono: I will when I can, trying to unblock dholbach
[16:59] <jono> np :-)
[16:59] <jono> no urgency
[17:42] <jcastro> popey: I can't believe I am only now discovering Spotify
[17:42] <jcastro> this is freaking awesome
[17:44] <dholbach> mhall119, thanks a bunch for your help
[17:44] <dholbach> all right my friends - see some of you in Oakland - big hugs and have a great WE!
[17:44] <jcastro> \o/
[17:45] <SergioMeneses> :O
[18:35] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, around?
[18:44] <mhall119> SergioMeneses: yes sir
[18:44] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, check your email ;)
[18:44] <SergioMeneses> mmm... dpm is not here =/
[18:50] <mhall119> thanks SergioMeneses
[18:50] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, I think it will be helpful ;)
[18:51] <mhall119> SergioMeneses: yup
[18:53] <mhall119> jono: adding pictured to bbqpad is fun, but it definitely needs an easy way to upload them directly from my phone
[19:12] <jono> mhall119, you should be able to just do it from your phone
[19:12] <jono> you tap the pic upload button and select it from your gallery
[19:13] <mhall119> jono: ah, mobile website?
[19:13] <jono> mhall119, no the normal website on your phone
[19:13] <jono> our site uses responsive design
[19:14] <mhall119> nice
[19:14] <jono> mhall119, let me know if you have any issues with it
[19:16] <mhall119> jono: so I added an image, it seems to have uploaded it, but it's not redirecting me from the "Add Photo" page back to my cook page
[19:17] <jono> mhall119, weird
[19:17] <mhall119> yeah, it uploaded ok, I see it on my desktop browser
[19:17] <jono> mhall119, thanks for letting me know
[19:17] <jono> will log it as a bug
[19:18] <mhall119> it'd be cool if your phone's camera could act as an IR thermometer
[19:21] <mhall119> jono: http://ubuntuone.com/2x5oDRfEQpgVTc03ryfemw on my N7
[19:23] <jono> mhall119, looks pretty good :-)
[19:57] <jcastro> jono: I'm only saying this before I care
[19:57] <jcastro> but ...
[19:57] <jcastro> I mean _because_ I care
[19:58] <jono> jcastro, uh oh
[19:58] <jcastro> but like, you're just taking the existing amount of words you had before and splitting them into three paragraphs.
[19:58] <jcastro> it's just as wordy as the usual one
[19:58] <jcastro> with 3 linebreaks, lol.
[19:58] <jono> jcastro, not really, many of previous posts were *much* bigger
[19:59] <jono> jcastro, as an example, my last post before I came up with 3PB http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/04/17/community-leadership-summit-training-and-talks/
[19:59] <jcastro> It's like Rush. "We decided the songs were getting too long, so we trimmed then down." and they go from 18 minutes to 9 minutes.
[19:59] <jono> or the one before: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/smart-scopes-not-landing-in-13-04-will-land-in-13-10/
[19:59] <jcastro> "there we go, 9 minutes, that's radio friendly."
[19:59] <jono> or the one before that: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/introducing-bbqpad/
[19:59] <jono> so the three entries before 3PB were huge
[19:59] <jono> :-)
[20:00] <jono> or the one before that:http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/26/more-regular-open-and-transparent-planning/
[20:00] <jono> and before that: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/18/recent-ubuntu-community-refinements/
[20:00] <jono> ooh, and look at this one: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/14/refining-and-improving-virtual-uds/
[20:00] <jcastro> what's aq's opinion on 3pb?
[20:00] <jono> every one of those is huge :-)
[20:00] <jono> haven't talked to him about it
[20:01] <jcastro> ok I'll ask him later
[20:01] <mhall119> jono: your defense of TPB has not exceeded the length of a TPB :)
[20:01] <mhall119> *now
[20:01] <jono> lol
[20:08] <IdleOne> jono supports piracy! More at 11!
[20:08] <jono> lol