[06:24] good morning [06:30] dholbach, I'm attempting to work on a few remaining Community Website items. [06:30] excellent [06:38] dholbach, I had a couple questions about what I should do so I do the right work and such. [06:38] would you have time for a couple questions sometime? [06:38] sure sure [06:38] which questions do you have? [06:42] So on the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-revamping-ubuntu-community-pages that I was asked to finish up by Jono, I have three items at the botthm. The first, (create some simple community personas:) I seem to recall Randall doing a month ago, and that is why I did not do to much with. Is there anything I can do on those to improve, or work on what he did. Also, I am unsure exactly the [06:42] best way to do the other two (talk to LoCo to define community personas and reach out to design team and/or non-Canonical designers to help us with a mockup) though I believe I can do it, I am just unsure how would be best. [06:44] dholbach, ^ [06:44] the best thing you can do is help finish up the bits on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite [06:44] there are some which still require work [06:44] I'll get everything on the test site today [06:44] so we can file a ticket with IS to move it to a more official place [06:45] that'd be the goals for April as far as I can see :) [06:45] so I'll spend some time on that today as well [06:46] dholbach, what needs to be done there to finish? Just read it up and fill in whatever I think is missing? Also., what do I do with my blueprint items then? [06:46] I'll have a look over the blueprint in a bit again - I guess we can just change them to "help with finalising the content" :) [06:46] yeah, just fill in what you think is missing [06:47] if we find out later on that content should be changed to be more welcoming/inspiring/explaining for some parts of our community, we can still do that [06:47] the same goes for design - we can make it prettier and maybe even more interactive in a second cut [06:47] but up-to-date content should come first I feel [06:48] dholbach, alright, Id just hate to do what the blueprint say and find out something else was needed. I need top prioritize my time now because next week is college finals and I will go dark for a week. Though tonight If what is needed to do in order to compleate the blueprint is make sure that page has everything I think it needs I can do that. [06:49] perfect [06:49] thanks so much for taking the time [06:49] I know you have a lot going on right now [06:50] dholbach, not a problem. [06:50] :-) [06:51] mhall119, can you please look at "Ubuntu: Main Index Template (index.php)" later on and make it writable? [06:53] (that is on the WP test instance - I'm sort of blocked) [07:11] dholbach, where is the website to critique. I looked at the Wiki link, but should I be looking at the actual community website? [07:11] critique? I'm not quite sure what you're after [07:12] philballew, the pieces of text we're writing are linked from that wiki page [07:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite [07:14] What I am after i to do a job, but I am unsure what exactly I am supposed to do. When you say "finish up the bits" on that link you provided, is that wiki page gonna be the actual community site? [07:14] because if not I am unsure what site to actually try to edit. [07:16] Good morning! [07:16] no [07:16] it'll be a wordpress site to which we copy over the text bits which are in the pad documents linked from the wiki site [07:17] hey popey, hey dpm [07:17] yeah, so I need to be able to see that site so I can tell if I think something needs to be there right? [07:17] morning all [07:17] hey dholbach [07:17] popey, dpm hola! [07:17] hola philballew :) [07:18] popey: why are you not vacationing? [07:18] philballew, the pad pages are where we edit the content [07:18] Not taking the Friday after release off? [07:18] :d [07:18] so all the ones which are not marked "Done" yet [07:19] dpm, come esta? [07:19] *como [07:19] bkerensa: no, i didnt go out for the release party last night, was working late [07:19] I am going to the UK's longest running beer festival tonight though ☻ [07:19] then flying to SFO tomorrow ⍨ [07:20] popey, why you coming here? [07:20] philballew, bien, bien, gracias, ¿y tu? ¿Practicando español? [07:20] sprint [07:20] loads of us are [07:20] dpm, I speak spanish well enough. I live say 20 km's from Mexico. [07:21] The only thing i can say in spanish is "Where are the ashtrays" [07:21] which is ironic given I don't smoke [07:21] popey: enjoy oakland [07:21] popey, I was kinda hoping you were coming to bring me British tea, but it's okay. [07:21] will try to ☻ [07:21] haha [07:22] yeah where is the marmite [07:22] I would say there is really no way to "enjoy Oakland" [07:22] pfft [07:22] philballew: Oh :) if you go driving around Oakland late at night its pretty fun [07:23] bkerensa, yeah, it's nice as long as I have a Kalashnikov. [07:24] popey, So if all the Canonical people are in Oakland for a sprint, how much is Canonical actually going to be involved with the upcoming online UDS? [07:24] UDS isn't the same week as the sprint [07:25] I know, but they will th erotically have gotten all there meetings out of the way. [07:25] popey: you guys are just finishing up the deal you guys got with the marriott right? [07:25] bkerensa: dunno, that's travel admin ☻ [07:25] philballew: we almost always have a sprint before UDS [07:25] no change there [07:25] popey, yes. I know that. [07:26] and its not the entire company sprinting [07:26] "erotically" and "meetings" in the same sentence doesn't make sense [07:26] :-P [07:27] But with UDS now being online does that mean that all Canonical employees are still required to attend? [07:28] yeah, that's where the work items and blueprints will be made [07:29] * philballew will attend in hopes to sport his Windows Server 2003 shirt for all to see. [07:29] haha [07:31] all right, got to take the dog for a walk [07:31] I'll also make sure to say yolo as many times as I can [07:31] Maybe change my irc name to swag [07:32] =/ [07:32] bkerensa, whats wrong? [07:32] I don't like that Yolo/swag nonsense [07:32] bkerensa, me either. [07:33] But to each their own right? [07:34] indeed [07:35] philballew: when you come up your going to have to see my mobile solar panels [07:35] :D [07:35] ooh, that reminds me [07:35] i need one of those solar battery pack things for charging devices [07:35] bkerensa, yeah, when I come up. I need to money first. [07:35] I spent all my money on a plane ticket to df (Mexico City) [07:36] philballew: I have one these http://www.goalzero.com/yeti150/ [07:37] blimey thats huge [07:37] bkerensa, Thats pretty cool. I have one of these: http://www.home360.co.il/pictures/4239tw.jpg [07:37] i was thinking more the small pocket things ☻ [07:37] philballew: that doesnt go on the bike [07:37] :D [07:38] popey: the irony is we dont have enough sun here to use it for but 4 months here [07:38] bkerensa, I solely ride a bike. [07:38] bkerensa, San Diego has more sun then we know what to do with [07:38] philballew: you could resell it [07:38] :P [07:38] I do take the bus though when I go to Mexico for the afternoon [07:38] Odd enough Oregon is becoming one of the largest solar producing states yet we have no sun :s [07:39] Not many people can leave the country for an afternoon in the states [07:39] philballew: true... I envy that... Mexico is good fun [07:39] we rarely get any sun at all [07:39] but I am going on a boat trip soon and want a solar charger for my phone [07:39] philballew: we will have to do a product trade soon... I need some mexican blankets [07:39] :) [07:39] because power on the boat is limited [07:40] they still go for three for $5? [07:40] :) [07:40] TJ is a lot better than it was. Three years ago and it was a scary place. [07:40] bkerensa, I am header there on Wednesday, I can snag you one of you want [07:40] there gonna be under 10 for sure [07:41] popey: http://www.solio.com/chargers/ perfect for cells [07:42] *headed [07:42] bkerensa, I usuallt only pay in pesos unless its a street vendor since they pick the conversation rate and its always gonna be in their favor. [07:43] *usually [07:43] but yeah, I can grab you something if you want [07:43] philballew: I should just come down to San Diego [07:43] bkerensa, It's true, you should. [07:44] tj has an airport to... [07:44] screw that :s [07:44] cheap flights to anywhere in the south [07:44] Its how my friends go to Cuba [07:44] I mean, not go to Cuba because you can not go there. [07:45] dholbach, I have read all the pads and sen a few things I think might look good to add. I went ahead and wrote them down. [07:46] figured youd want to know and all [08:09] philballew, cool! [08:09] philballew, which ones did you update? [08:10] hmm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades could do with some love [08:11] dholbach, added a little bit to meeting others that enjoy Ubuntu, under help and information, and some under advocacy from the contributive section. Not much, but something. [08:12] cool [08:12] thanks a bunch [08:12] dholbach, so what would you think should be done with my other blueprint items of reaching out to locos and the design team. Because I think I should not reach oth to the design team till after we have the site for them to work on. [08:12] yeah, let's do that for rev2 [08:12] I'll update the blueprint later on [08:13] Im changing the community personas one to DONE since I worked with randall ont at a while ago [08:14] and the other two I am not sure I csan do until the site is live or able for people to see... [08:14] I mean, were not that far along [08:14] sure [08:15] dholbach, I can do a better job on both of those after the 4th or may when i am out of college for the summer holiday. I dont wanna half ass anything... [08:16] sure, that makes perfect sense [08:16] alright. sweet! [08:16] * philballew wonders off as it is 1am here [08:50] balloons, if you could review http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality asap, that'd be good [09:39] dholbach: Do me a flavor and check if LoCo items are filled into the support contributions community etherpad plz [10:06] smartboyhw, sure, in a bit [10:06] smartboyhw, yes [10:06] hey are [10:06] they are [10:07] dholbach: Review then please:) [10:07] Signing it off [10:07] yes, I'll go through them one by one today [10:07] dholbach: :) [10:08] dholbach: What will happen after all the pages are copied to test instance? [10:13] we'll ask IS to deploy on a more official server [10:13] that'll then be community.u.c rev1 :) [10:14] :) [11:29] wish I could getthis fixed :) may need to poke the lpappders nicely https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1172743 [11:29] Launchpad bug 1172743 in Launchpad itself "Please, put the 'Does this bug affect you?' link very close to the add-comment-form textarea" [Undecided,New] [11:47] dpm, ping [11:48] dholbach, pong [11:48] dpm, got time for a very quick hangout? [11:49] dholbach, could we have it in 10 min? I need to fix something in translation templates before a cron job kicks in in ~10 [11:49] I might be ready before that, though [11:49] ok, just ping me - I have to rush off to an appointment soon, but it might still work out [11:49] ok [11:50] (if not we can talk when I'm back) [11:56] dholbach, ok, I'm done [11:56] dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/141376c14348da71fc74f5f45f182399d559bbfe?authuser=0&hl=de [12:12] czajkowski: Are the new LoCo Council members here? I want to congrat them:) [12:13] smartboyhw: I dont see their irc nicks, you can look at their lp page and you'll be able to see it [12:17] Ok [13:51] JoseeAntonioR, it might be good to get a session about autopkgtest for UOW - what do you think? maybe pitti has something already prepared :) [13:52] dholbach: Not to interrupt, but isn't that for the UDW? [13:52] … [13:52] still I think it'd be something people might be interested in [13:52] and it's important :) [13:53] dholbach: And BTW, after you copied the etherpads to the community website test instance lemme have a look:P [13:53] yes, sure [13:54] dholbach: For autopkgtest, possible to integrate it into the Ubuntu Community QA team session? [13:54] not sure if it can be covered in 5-10m [13:56] dholbach: I'm not sure that is a topic for really new contributors either. [13:56] personally I feel that people who know a bit of scripting or a bit of a programming language can get involved there [13:56] For UOW [13:57] it's a quite isolated thing where you don't need to know much about packaging or have a deep understanding of how the distro works in general [13:57] dholbach: Then they should join UDW. I would rather want to see what other teams will join… of course [13:57] I mean I'm going to do do a "intro to ubunu development" too [13:57] and I'm not saying that it should absolutely be there [13:57] JoseeAntonioR is making a decision [13:58] * smartboyhw_ has no decision in this matter, IIRC [13:58] we discussed bringing autopkgtest into UDW and UOW at the last UDS as it is an important topic for Ubuntu and it should get some publicity [13:58] but if there are more important or more relevant things for UOW I absolutely won't object [13:59] see it as a "idea at UDS" driven suggestion [13:59] not a strict requirement [13:59] ok [13:59] But that will be 3 sessions out of 10:O [14:01] For dev [14:01] understood, I'll leave the decision to somebody else [14:02] a.k.a. JoseeAntonioR:P [14:19] czajkowski: the maas tag could use some love [14:23] jcastro: I'm not CDO anymore :) [14:30] oh [14:31] * czajkowski is online services [14:31] No lpadders is under CDO any more [15:00] I'm not into guitars at all but this is amazing https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=330539833725285 [15:00] for those not on FB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyadfm94oxE [15:16] JoseeAntonioR: ping a ling [15:16] so nice to be the one pinging for a change :) [15:17] lol [15:22] morning everybody! [15:22] http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2013/04/26/pablo-rubianes-and-marcos-costales-appointed-to-the-lococouncil/ [15:24] ubuntu didn't participated again in the google summer of code this year =( [15:25] chilicuil: it's not that it didn't [15:25] it wasn't accepted it did apply thanks to folks in here [15:26] czajkowski: ohh, got it, well maybe next year =) [15:26] yup [15:27] chilicuil, \o\ sure! [15:28] Woah Mozilla is discussing opening its private intranet and LDAP tools to commmunity [15:28] :o [15:28] bkerensa: :O [15:28] craziness [15:28] that would be awesome, specially the ldap tools =)_ [15:28] uh yeah [15:29] we would have the same corporate tools as MoCo [15:29] :D [15:29] I guess its the next logical step since we have budget and office space already [15:30] :) [16:55] mhall119, hey [16:55] can you promote your cook on social media? [16:55] would be cool to build some buzz around it [16:58] jono: I will when I can, trying to unblock dholbach [16:59] np :-) [16:59] no urgency [17:42] popey: I can't believe I am only now discovering Spotify [17:42] this is freaking awesome [17:44] mhall119, thanks a bunch for your help [17:44] all right my friends - see some of you in Oakland - big hugs and have a great WE! [17:44] \o/ [17:45] :O [18:35] mhall119, around? [18:44] SergioMeneses: yes sir [18:44] mhall119, check your email ;) [18:44] mmm... dpm is not here =/ [18:50] thanks SergioMeneses [18:50] mhall119, I think it will be helpful ;) [18:51] SergioMeneses: yup [18:53] jono: adding pictured to bbqpad is fun, but it definitely needs an easy way to upload them directly from my phone [19:12] mhall119, you should be able to just do it from your phone [19:12] you tap the pic upload button and select it from your gallery [19:13] jono: ah, mobile website? [19:13] mhall119, no the normal website on your phone [19:13] our site uses responsive design [19:14] nice [19:14] mhall119, let me know if you have any issues with it [19:16] jono: so I added an image, it seems to have uploaded it, but it's not redirecting me from the "Add Photo" page back to my cook page [19:17] mhall119, weird [19:17] yeah, it uploaded ok, I see it on my desktop browser [19:17] mhall119, thanks for letting me know [19:17] will log it as a bug [19:18] it'd be cool if your phone's camera could act as an IR thermometer [19:21] jono: http://ubuntuone.com/2x5oDRfEQpgVTc03ryfemw on my N7 === airurando1 is now known as airurando [19:23] mhall119, looks pretty good :-) [19:57] jono: I'm only saying this before I care [19:57] but ... [19:57] I mean _because_ I care [19:58] jcastro, uh oh [19:58] but like, you're just taking the existing amount of words you had before and splitting them into three paragraphs. [19:58] it's just as wordy as the usual one [19:58] with 3 linebreaks, lol. [19:58] jcastro, not really, many of previous posts were *much* bigger [19:59] jcastro, as an example, my last post before I came up with 3PB http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/04/17/community-leadership-summit-training-and-talks/ [19:59] It's like Rush. "We decided the songs were getting too long, so we trimmed then down." and they go from 18 minutes to 9 minutes. [19:59] or the one before: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/smart-scopes-not-landing-in-13-04-will-land-in-13-10/ [19:59] "there we go, 9 minutes, that's radio friendly." [19:59] or the one before that: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/introducing-bbqpad/ [19:59] so the three entries before 3PB were huge [19:59] :-) [20:00] or the one before that:http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/26/more-regular-open-and-transparent-planning/ [20:00] and before that: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/18/recent-ubuntu-community-refinements/ [20:00] ooh, and look at this one: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/14/refining-and-improving-virtual-uds/ [20:00] what's aq's opinion on 3pb? [20:00] every one of those is huge :-) [20:00] haven't talked to him about it [20:01] ok I'll ask him later [20:01] jono: your defense of TPB has not exceeded the length of a TPB :) [20:01] *now [20:01] lol [20:08] jono supports piracy! More at 11! [20:08] lol