[00:47] <Cooder> I have my torrents going.....
[02:44] <jbicha> darkxst: I still have a power icon in Unity with g-s-d 3.7.92 or your 3.8.1
[02:44] <darkxst> jbicha, I dont
[02:47] <Ponch0> what is this SIGSEGV business, it crashes my gnome-tweak-tool and software center
[02:48] <darkxst> Ponch0, are you using ubuntu overlay scrollbars?
[02:50] <Ponch0> darkxt: i'm not sure what that is :/
[02:50] <Ponch0> but possibly
[02:50] <Ponch0> those scroll bars that show up when I want to use them?
[02:50] <darkxst> yes, that ones that show up when you hover the mouse
[02:50] <Ponch0> yup I've been wanting to get rid of them but I didnt know how
[02:52] <darkxst> Ponch0, set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode  to 'normal'
[02:52] <Ponch0> they're pretty useless, they just stop showing up after one or two uses
[02:52] <Ponch0> where?
[02:52] <darkxst> Ponch0, I know and they seem to be getting worse each cycle!
[02:52] <darkxst> dconf-editor
[02:52] <Ponch0> oh .
[02:53] <Ponch0> let me google that, thank you kindly
[02:53] <darkxst> just run it from overview!
[02:55] <jbicha> anyone know of a bug # for the corrupted text in Software Center's sidebar with the GNOME3 PPA
[02:57] <Ponch0> ooh don't be so obvious! i'm still learning :D
[02:59] <Ponch0> k I shut that off
[03:00] <Ponch0> still crashing, should I restart?
[03:08] <Ponch0> meh.. still crashing.
[03:20] <darkxst> jbicha, stange, I was missing indicator-power
[05:11] <sgo11> Are there any official instructions about how to upgrade ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04 where I have "GNOME3 PPA" enabled in 12.10 ?
[05:12] <sgo11> sorry. I mean to ubuntu gnome 13.04.
[05:30] <darkxst> sgo11, normal upgrade will work fine, however probably safest to purge ppa first
[05:32] <sgo11> darkxst, thanks. never use ppa-purge. Do I just run "sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3" ? thanks.
[05:34] <darkxst> sgo11, yeh
[05:36] <sgo11> darkxst, got it. thanks. will try to upgrade later. hopefully, nothing will be broken.
[06:43] <ricotz> darkxst, hi, who was bribed to get dbgsym support for the gnome3 ppa? would be nice to have it for the gnome3-staging too ;)
[06:49] <darkxst> ricotz, staging has them, but some packages are copied form other ppa's without rebuilding :(
[06:49] <ricotz> darkxst, ah ok, i see
[06:49] <ricotz> darkxst, do mind if i add https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/commit/?id=6e14faf9138dbbffd1e63e177e53d88963c379e5
[06:49] <darkxst> ricotz, still trying to bribe pitti to setup a retracer though ;)
[06:51] <darkxst> ricotz, sure go ahead
[06:55] <ahmad_> hello
[07:02] <ricotz> darkxst, ok pushed and confirmed it works with glib master/2.37 ;)
[07:04] <darkxst> ok
[07:05] <darkxst> ricotz, oh and the rt guys said if we ever need more space to just open a ticket
[07:06] <ricotz> darkxst, yeah as usual, that is fine
[07:07] <darkxst> ricotz, you tried to build webkit 2.0.1?
[07:07] <ricotz> darkxst, no
[07:08] <darkxst> after 2 hours, its failed with a gtkdoc error ;(
[07:08] <darkxst> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603644/
[07:16] <ricotz> darkxst, havent seen something like that yet
[07:17] <darkxst> ricotz, ok, I wil take the easy option for now and just disable
[07:17] <darkxst> (gtk-docs)
[07:56] <denosye> hi
[07:58] <denosye> is there a list of software, ubuntu gnome uses? like, uses it GDM or lightdm?
[07:58] <denosye> there are only the recent changes in the blog on the homepage
[08:22] <darkxst> Anyone still on Quantal that can verify the gnome-shell/mutter update?
[08:23] <darkxst> bugs 1128804, 1067265 and 1132308
[08:27] <Lsf_lf> hi, already a gnome ubuntu-logo was found? I would like a wiki article with a gnome ubuntu-logo decorate, but find no official logo.
[08:29] <darkxst> Lsf_lf, its a work in progress
[08:29] <Lsf_lf> darkxst: ah, ok … thanks
[08:29] <darkxst> there were some emails on the mailing lists with the proposed logos
[08:30] <Lsf_lf> darkxst: ok, I'll keep an eye on the mailing list ...
[09:19] <fedeavila> hi everyone
[09:19] <fedeavila> i just installed ubuntu 1304 and made 3 partitions
[09:20] <fedeavila> can i overwrite this with ubuntu-gnome?
[09:20] <fedeavila> "/" "swap" & "/home"
[09:37] <darkxst> lol, some people really need to learn !patience
[09:54] <phako> does alt-tab work for you?
[09:54] <phako> on raring?
[09:59] <darkxst> phako, yes
[09:59] <phako> I can only switch between the first two apps
[10:00] <darkxst> phako, 3.6 or 3.8?
[10:00] <phako> 3.8
[10:00] <phako> from the gnome3 ppa
[10:01] <darkxst> its fine here
[10:01] <phako> weird
[10:01] <phako> I'll try re-login
[10:01] <phako> brb
[10:01] <phako> or restart, rather
[10:01] <phako> no
[10:04] <darkxst> phako, file a bug
[10:18] <phako> darkxst: against what?
[10:19] <darkxst> phako, 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell'
[10:19] <phako> ah, ubuntu-bug, I always forget about that
[10:26] <phako> done
[10:33] <darkxst> phako, does alt+`(key above tab) work for you?
[10:34] <phako> yes, works fine
[10:34] <darkxst> phako, what about using arrow keys to nav after alt+tab?
[10:35] <phako> also works
[10:37] <darkxst> phako, can you test with gnome3-staging?
[10:37] <phako> sure, second
[10:41] <phako> ok, just installing gnome-shell from that doesn't help
[10:41] <phako> should I try the full upgrade?
[10:45] <mgedmin> 1st boot of 13.04
[10:45] <mgedmin> my wallpaper is gone, and I can't change it via system settings
[10:49] <mgedmin> um, help?
[10:50] <darkxst> phako, yes, in particular gnome-settings-daemon
[10:51] <darkxst> mgedmin, try adwaita
[10:51] <phako> ok
[10:51] <mgedmin> I am using adwaita
[10:51] <darkxst> are you using desktop icons?
[10:52] <mgedmin> no
[10:53] <darkxst> mgedmin, gnome-shell draws the background then
[10:53] <darkxst> i.e it should work
[10:54] <mgedmin> gsettings: http://dpaste.de/Eu2OQ/
[10:54] <mgedmin> all seems to be in order
[10:56] <darkxst> mgedmin, try a filename without special chars
[10:57] <mgedmin> org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri 'file:///usr/share/backgrounds/La_Gomera_by_Alfonso_Aguirre_Arbex.jpg'
[10:57] <darkxst> and check ~/.cache/gdm/session.log for any errors
[10:58] <mgedmin> nope, still seeing http://imgur.com/4ieIqc7
[10:58] <darkxst> we don't even ship that background!
[10:59] <mgedmin> in ubuntu 13.04?
[10:59] <mgedmin> it's a random one I clicked on in system settings -> background
[10:59] <darkxst> ubuntu GNOME ships with blue blinds
[10:59] <mgedmin> from ubuntu-wallpapers-raring
[10:59] <darkxst> that is the standard raring wallpaper
[10:59] <mgedmin> oh, the one I'm actually looking at?
[11:00] <mgedmin> I might be missing some meta-packages
[11:00] <mgedmin> I installed gnome-shell gdm etc. manually on ubuntu 12.something, back before the gnome remix appeared
[11:00] <darkxst> mgedmin, install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[11:01] <mgedmin> roger
[11:09] <mgedmin> no luck still
[11:10] <mgedmin> ubuntu-bug gnome-shell?
[11:10] <darkxst> mgedmin, sure
[11:11] <phako> darkxst: still the same, but I have my keyboard layout switcher back \o/
[11:11]  * mgedmin will try to log out and log in, just in case
[11:11] <darkxst> phako, strange, sounds like the keygrabber is playing up, but that should work better with staging
[11:12] <mgedmin> what do you know, it worked
[11:12] <phako> mgedmin: does logging out work for you?
[11:12] <phako> I can't get back to gdm :-/
[11:12] <mgedmin> worked for me
[11:12] <darkxst> phako, you probably need a reboot after installing staging
[11:12] <phako> did that
[11:13] <mgedmin> there was rather a lot of flickering, as if the video mode were being set multiple times, but logout worked
[11:13]  * darkxst going to run and hide, too many bugs for one night!
[11:13] <phako> darkxst: I can't see the accessibility menu, is that off now or do I have some lingering extension somewhere?
[11:13] <mgedmin> one of the packages installed by apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop was gnome-backgrounds
maybe the default wallpaper was missing, and when gnome-shell couldn't find it, it decided to sulk and stopped tracking desktop gsetting key changes?
[11:14] <mgedmin> phako, IIRC accesibility icon appears only if you have at least of the accessibility options enabled
[11:14] <phako> ah
[11:16] <mgedmin> now, do I want the gnome 3.8 ppa?
[11:18] <darkxst> mgedmin, yes!
[11:18] <darkxst> anyway I have to go now
[11:18] <mgedmin> thanks for the help!
[11:19] <darkxst> np ;)
[11:23] <mgedmin> interesting: apt-get dist-upgrade holds back gnome-boxes
[11:27] <mgedmin> apt-get install gnome-boxes upgrades it fine (after removing libspice-client-glib-2.0-1 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-1 and installing libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-4)
[11:27] <mgedmin> sometimes I don't understand apt-get.
[11:29] <mgedmin> well hello gnome 3.8
[11:33] <mgedmin> Cantarell's kerning of "lo", "lk", "la", "lė" is pretty bad
[11:33] <mgedmin> where should I file bugs?
[11:33] <mgedmin> bugzilla.gnome.org?
[11:35] <mgedmin> might be a duplicate of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643364
[11:40]  * mgedmin files bug 643364 just in case
[11:41] <mgedmin> no, not launchpad, gnome bug
[11:41] <mgedmin> bots...
[11:51] <mgedmin> hey, I thought global shortcuts (like volume control keys) were supposed to work in the overview in gnome 3.8?
[11:52] <mgedmin> and PrintScreen
[14:29] <e2k> hiya! in order to get a "fresh" 13.04 with gnome 3.8 I should just normally install ubuntu-gnome, add the GNOME3 PPA:s and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, am I right? :)
[14:30] <e2k> shouldn't that do the trick, or is there anything else to consider?
[15:11] <e2k> the installer seems to crash every time :I
[15:16] <sacarde> hi
[15:16] <sacarde> why ubuntu with gnome has name "ubuntu-gnome"
[15:17] <sacarde> and not "Gubuntu" ?
[15:17] <baronos> goobuntu by google and gubuntu = :)
[16:04] <BluPhenix316> hey does ubuntu-gnome support UEFI installs?
[16:13] <rtubuntugnomemay> hallow every one.
[16:13] <rtubuntugnomemay> Today I have installed ubuntu-gnome  ---  excellent with a few bugs
[16:14] <rtubuntugnomemay> Is any one available for some help i require
[16:15] <tommie-lie> just ask and wait for someone to answer
[16:15] <rtubuntugnomemay> thanks...  some there !!
[16:15] <rtubuntugnomemay> my question :  I have updated with sudo apt-get update
[16:15] <tommie-lie> yes, but there are many timezones in this world and not everyone here actually is on front of his screen right now
[16:16] <rtubuntugnomemay> and upgraded too with all latest ones.
[16:17] <rtubuntugnomemay> But when I give command again i.e. sudo apt-get update ,  instead of updating only changed repository ,  the whole index file get downloaded.
[16:18] <tommie-lie> that is completely normal, apt-get update always downloads the package list from all configured servers
[16:20] <rtubuntugnomemay> to the best of my knowladge and experience,  only changed index files..  normally this total download is approx 2 mb.  But every time my download size is well over  25 mb.
[16:21] <rtubuntugnomemay> its strange... I have been using Ubuntu for last 7 years...  never had this experience.
[16:22] <tommie-lie> hm, yes, there is a mechanism to download only files with a changed timestamp
[16:23] <rtubuntugnomemay> it seems that mechanism is broken...  any way can i correct it.
[16:23] <tommie-lie> rtubuntugnomemay: when doing apt-get update, every line starts with Get instead of Hit?
[16:24] <rtubuntugnomemay> Just tried... you are correct
[16:24] <rtubuntugnomemay> every line starts with get
[16:27] <rtubuntugnomemay> i googled for answer  but no avail except few one suggested changing the update servers ..  tried that part as well but no use.
[16:27] <tommie-lie> are you using apt-proxy or something like that?
[16:27] <rtubuntugnomemay> nope ... connected directly to internet
[16:30] <FrozenFire> So I just updated to 13.04, and updated everything out of the gnome3 PPA. My background is now white, despite having it set black. In fact, no background that I select shows up.
[16:30] <FrozenFire> It'll show up when in the activities menu, but not when looking at the desktop
[16:34] <tommie-lie> rtubuntugnomemay: I'm not aware of any option that turns off this timestamp checking. You could try removing the local package index, rebuilding it and see if the problem still exists
[16:34] <rtubuntugnomemay> please help me...  every time i wish to add ppa,  I have to use command sudo apt-get update,  and every time I get  apt-get update over 25 mb....
[16:35] <rtubuntugnomemay> by the way I am using Ubuntu-gnome 13.04
[16:35] <tommie-lie> rtubuntugnomemay: just rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages*, *Release* and *Sources*
[16:35] <rtubuntugnomemay> Except this I found its excellent by any standard.
[16:36] <tommie-lie> rtubuntugnomemay: but actually I don't think your problem is specific to ubuntu-gnome, apt-get/dpkg is the same in all ubuntu flavours
[16:36] <rtubuntugnomemay> i will try...  give me a minute.
[16:37] <tommie-lie> rtubuntugnomemay: after removing those files, try apt-get update again, it should redownload everything and a second update immediately after should only "Hit" most (if not all) of the sources
[16:38] <mgedmin> FrozenFire, had a similar issue today
[16:39] <mgedmin> FrozenFire, what helped me: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop; then log out and log in again
[16:43] <rtubuntugnomemay> i will try this as well if advice by tommie-lie doesn't work  ( I think it should work !!!)
[16:44] <tommie-lie> rtubuntugnomemay: don't think that logging out and back in again will help with your problem :-P
[16:44] <rtubuntugnomemay> I have no choice
[16:45] <rtubuntugnomemay> i think tommie-lie makes sense
[16:49] <AdonisK> Is there a way to tell which file manager is occupying the desktop?
[16:56] <mgedmin> AdonisK, xprop/xwininfo followed by clicking on the desktop
[16:56] <mgedmin> otoh when it's gnome-shell itself, xprop shows nothing whatsoever, and xwininfo is also not very informative...
[16:57] <mgedmin> the window id printed by xwininfo starts with the same sequence of hex digits as the gnome-shell client id printed by xlsclients
[16:57] <mgedmin> I'm not sure how reliable that is
[16:57] <AdonisK> actually xprop just returned me a bunch of info
[16:58] <mgedmin> cool
[17:03] <AdonisK> Something weird is going on with my upgraded UGR 12.10 which I'm trying to debug. It seems like when I'm firstly logging into my account via gdm, nautilus is either bugged (or maybe ubuntu is loading something else?). Because it doesn't load the selected icon themes, background-images, options etc from either system settings or the gnome tweak tool
[17:04] <AdonisK> If i use the tweak tool to toggle the have the file system occupy the desktop off and then back on, then everything starts working properly
[17:05] <mgedmin> perhaps desktop nautilus starts up before gnome-settings-daemon?
[17:05] <mgedmin> I'm not a gnome developer
[17:07] <rt_>  tommie-lie  ,  you are geneous...  it worked.
[17:07] <rt_> Thanks for great advice
[17:29] <AdonisK> yep, this happens whenever shell (re)starts
[17:30] <mgedmin> (I'm not sure the use case of nautilus handling the desktop is still supported in recent gnome 3 releases)
[17:42] <AdonisK> My main problem is not loading the selected icons, not the desktop. It's just that the only way to get them to work is by toggling the desktop
[18:21] <pkulas> Hey, any1 got similar problem? After install from usb disk, Ubuntu doesn't load. After few seconds by selecting ubuntu from grub menu black screen, monitor goes off
[19:38] <happy> hi
[19:39] <user__> I like the appearance of ubuntugnome.org. It is soft, clear and simple.
[19:41] <happy> yes its very nice
[19:41] <happy> only problem im having with it is flashplayer
[19:46] <piotr409> What's wrong with 64bit install disk? After install "Reboot or select proper Boot device..." Installed with configuration (root / 200GB, swap 8GB, efi 200MB)
[20:08] <Yangson> Hi all! Sorry if the question is lame but I want to know more about the ‘Install Alongside’ thing. This means that I can't install it along with Windows (for ex.)? Tnx!
[20:11] <Yangson> anyone?
[20:13] <hashem> Yangson, someone could give you a better answer if you wait a bit, but I assume that feature is a no-hassle way of dual-booting. There shouldn't (though I may be wrong) be anything stopping you from creating a shrinking a current windows partition (creating a blank partition) from windows and then installing ubuntu gnome to that partition.
[20:14] <hashem> *stopping you from shrinking a ...
[20:15] <Yangson> ok...
[20:16] <Yangson> I saw the issue in comments and start thinking about it... I use the ubuntu-gnome remix and I really like it!
[21:02] <dany_> hi everyone. I'm running Ubuntu GNOME 12.10, what's the right procedure to upgrade to 13.04?
[21:19] <ibi> great dev ubuntu gnome =)
[21:19] <ibi> thanks
[22:43] <noumaan> hi I have ubuntu 13.04 and i would like to replace it with ubuntu gnome can i do this by changing sources.list or installing a meta-package
[22:44] <noumaan> i already have gnome-shell installed but i would like a pure gnome computer clean and clutter free
[23:40] <victorurena> hi programers world