[01:18] <RubenAlonzo> hello everyone
[01:20] <RubenAlonzo> what is the latest build of touch?  is anyone running it on a nexus 7?
[01:22] <RubenAlonzo> hello?
[01:28] <XXX> hello
[01:28] <XXX> hello
[04:54] <MissValeska_> hiya
[04:58] <X-Droid> Hi everybody
[04:58] <X-Droid> ..
[04:58] <X-Droid> Note II (N7100) can install ubuntu phone ?
[05:22] <MissValeska_> hi
[05:39] <MissValeska_> Someone, Please help me
[05:45] <k1l> !ask | MissValeska_
[05:48] <MissValeska_> 've waited like, Four or five hours! The Ubuntu 13.04 upgrade is not worknig
[05:48] <MissValeska_> It has stalled at about half way, It just says installed cabextract
[05:48] <k1l> do you use ubuntu-touch on a mobile device?
[05:54] <MissValeska_> No, I do wanna try that though
[05:56] <k1l> so you were talking about teamviewer on #ubuntu. i think you did some ubuntu chroot install on an arm device?
[05:57] <MissValeska_> Huh?
[05:58] <k1l> MissValeska_: give more details
[06:00] <MissValeska_> I am on my macbook
[06:00] <MissValeska_> I am upgrading from Ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04
[06:01] <MissValeska_> The upgrade went fine, Up until about half way, Where it just stopped. No error message, And it is no frozen. Nothing is happening, It just says installed cabextract
[06:01] <MissValeska_> I asked over five hours ago for help in #Ubuntu, They arrogantly told me to just wait. I did, And now, I ask for help again, And no one is even replying.
[06:04] <k1l> MissValeska_: ok, but this is the wrong channel. this channel is about the mobile ubuntu-touch. this is not for regular ubuntu desktop installs. better ask again in #ubuntu and give full details (as happened here)
[06:05] <MissValeska_> *sigh* Okay
[06:05] <MissValeska_> As long as I am here, I might as well ask about the general state of the Ubuntu Phone OS.
[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[07:01] <Saintextreme> So who has developed any good apps?
[07:17] <mzanetti_> hey. I'm having troubles installing phablet-tools
[07:18] <mzanetti_> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/pool/main/p/phablet-tools/phablet-tools_0.12daily13.04.25ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[07:18] <mzanetti_> the same for all of you or is it just me?
[07:51] <ttoine> hello
[07:51] <ttoine> phablet-flash doesn't work, is it normal ?
[07:51] <ttoine> ttoine@ttoine-bonitasoft:~$ phablet-flash -b
[07:51] <ttoine> Device detected as maguro
[07:51] <ttoine> Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current
[07:51] <ttoine> Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <ttoine> Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <ttoine> Latest build detection not supported... bailing
[08:12] <ttoine> hi again
[08:12] <ttoine> somebody knows why I have this message
[08:12] <ttoine> "Latest build detection not supported... bailing"
[08:24] <mzanetti> ttoine: try upgrading phablet-tools
[08:24] <mzanetti> ttoine: I just flashed 15 mins ago. works fine
[08:24] <ttoine> mzanetti, phablet was unable to find the image on cdimage
[08:25] <ttoine> but it seems to work again for 10min
[08:25] <mzanetti> ttoine: images 99 and 100 were broken. 101 is fine again and the broken ones were deleted
[08:25] <ttoine> ah ok, it explains all. thank you very much
[09:39] <ttoine> someone knows how to activate the simcard in the galaxynexus ?
[09:39] <ttoine> (maguro)
[09:48] <ogra_> ttoine, it only works with unlocked SIMs
[12:07] <ttoine> ogra_, unlocked sim ?? what is that ? my sim work in any telephone and the phone is not locked on any network
[12:13] <netcurli> ttoine: at the moment you need a sim card without a pin code
[12:14] <ttoine> netcurli, ah ok... so it means next time, before flashing to ubuntu phone, I will have to remove the pincode in android. true?
[12:15] <netcurli> ttoine: yes, then you should be able to use it in ubuntu touch
[12:45] <asczitaka> Porting question, would Ubuntu Touch work on a Samsung Galaxy Naos i5801
[12:45] <asczitaka> here the specs
[12:46] <asczitaka> original rom 512 mb, 256 MB RAM 1go  sd up to 32
[12:46] <asczitaka> cpu : Samsung S5P6422 667 MHz
[12:47] <asczitaka> it has Clockworkmanager and Cyanogenmod 10 with the latest Android firm
[13:46] <Casmo> If I were to install Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 4, and a new version would come out, and I flash that one, will all the files stay intact etc, or will it go back to a factory reset?
[13:47] <pmcgowan> Casmo: a reflash wipes the existing data, in some cases you can do an apt-get upgrade provided nothing incompatible introduced between the ubuntu and android sides
[13:48] <Casmo> Ah, that's too bad :\ Thanks :)
[13:58] <lenios> inaccessible
[14:10] <popey> dragly you around?
[14:10] <popey> design meeting
[15:18] <sil2100> didrocks, cyphermox: ok, so our issue should be fixed now
[15:18] <sil2100> didrocks, cyphermox: the issue with UTAH and autopilot on the generic jenkins job
[15:19] <nOStahl> hi guys
[15:19] <nOStahl> whats new
[15:19] <sil2100> Hi
[15:19] <cyphermox> ok
[15:19] <nOStahl> haven't been in this channel since it got renamed to #ubuntu-touch
[15:19] <didrocks> sil2100: the ssh issue?
[15:19] <didrocks> sil2100: or something else?
[15:19] <cyphermox> think we mean the ssh issue here, yeah
[15:20] <didrocks> sil2100: do you know what went wrong with UTAH?
[15:20] <sil2100> didrocks: yes, that one - it seems there has been some change in the installer or something
[15:20] <didrocks> ah ok
[15:20] <sil2100> didrocks: so they had to change some ubiquity related regexp
[15:20] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, great! Thanks a lot ;)
[15:21] <nOStahl> any word on when we'll see ubuntu on phones in stores
[15:21] <Kakadu> hey, I just installed facebook-app from ppa and it can't resolve "import Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts 0.1". What I have forgotten?
[15:35] <pmcgowan> mardy: do you know what package gives import Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts 0.1
[15:36] <mardy> pmcgowan: qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin
[15:38] <sil2100> I see now that ubuntu-facebook-app doesn't dep on qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin, so maybe that needs fixing
[15:38] <pmcgowan> Kakadu: ^^ that should be a dep for the facebook app
[15:38] <pmcgowan> doh
[15:38] <pmcgowan> ;)
[15:41] <cyphermox> nice catch
[15:43] <Kakadu> pmcgowan: qtdeclarative5-friends-plugin seems to be needed too
[15:44] <pmcgowan> ack
[15:46] <Kakadu> also AuthModel.qml uses auth.js but this script is missing in /usr/share/ubuntu-facebook-app
[15:49] <Kakadu> and ubuntu-twitter-app is just default template from qtcreator with two pages?
[15:50] <Kakadu> hmmm, guys
[15:50] <Kakadu> What deadline do u have about all of this?
[15:50] <pmcgowan> no one working on it
[15:50] <pmcgowan> I think Twitter got dropped per Twitter;s request
[15:51] <Kakadu> maybe
[15:51] <Kakadu> facebook not yet dropped?
[15:52] <pmcgowan> no facebook is fine
[15:52] <pmcgowan> popey: would know better
[15:54] <chris123> I got "Validatind download for raring-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip Not enough space in /data, found 3.8G"
[15:54] <chris123> after phablet-flash
[15:55] <pmcgowan> chris123: try deleting the zip files on /sdcard/
[15:55] <pmcgowan> chris123: tool looks for at least 4GB
[15:55] <chris123> on the phone?
[15:55] <pmcgowan> yes
[15:55] <chris123> ok, thx
[15:55] <chris123> i thought only 2gb was required
[15:56] <pmcgowan> once installed, but uses more during
[15:56] <pmcgowan> I guess
[15:57] <Kakadu> also, ubuntu-weather-app prints "no locations" and "Add one" text is unclickable. Does it work as expected?
[15:58] <ogra_> Kakadu, deadline is "first functional image by 13.10"
[15:59] <ogra_> i.e. "out of developer preview status"
[16:00] <Kakadu> So you need to create developer preview until October? (I didn't got this english)
[16:00] <ogra_> what we have now is called developer preview
[16:00] <Kakadu> aaah
[16:01] <ogra_> so by 13.10 you should be able to install a usable image with the core apps included and functional on your nexus device
[16:02] <popey> correct pmcgowan fb is fine. only twitter was dropped
[16:03] <chris123> silly question, where is /scdard ?  i looked in /mnt /media and root, but don't see it.
[16:04] <t1mp_> Kakadu: I had the same problem with the weather app. But if you swipe up from the bottom of the window, there is a toolbar with an add-button :)
[16:04] <ogra_> on your devices ?
[16:04] <pmcgowan> chris123: you need to do...
[16:04] <ogra_> chris123, ^^^
[16:04] <pmcgowan> adb shell rm /sdcard/zipfile
[16:05] <Kakadu> t1mp_: thanks)
[16:05] <pmcgowan> chris123:  do adb shell ls /sdcard/ to see the files
[16:05] <pmcgowan> then delete the install zips
[16:07] <chris123> oh, i was trying via SSH, and didnt see the directory
[16:07] <chris123> oh... i get it now
[16:07] <pmcgowan> cool
[16:07] <chris123> ssh puts you into /sdcard/
[16:07] <chris123> oh, no, wait... it doesnt?
[16:08] <chris123> either way, i am good with adb.  thanks!
[16:10] <pmcgowan> chris123:  ssh brings you into the ubuntu file system in the phablet account, which you could see at /data/ubuntu/home/phablet
[16:11] <sil2100> mterry: ping
[16:12] <chris123> thanks again
[16:26] <bobweaver> jppiiroi1en,  or bzoltan  you around ?  just wondering if you had a chance to look at the qhp and qch files that I uploaded ?
[16:27] <bzoltan> bobweaver: Yes, I have checked it
[16:28] <bzoltan> bobweaver: Good stuff
[16:28] <bzoltan> bobweaver: Tell me more
[16:30] <bobweaver> it uses the docs from ubuntu-ui-toolkit (offline) I had to alter the css and write the qhp file
[16:31] <bobweaver> so use qdoc3 then qhelpgenerator
[16:31] <bobweaver> is what I did though I guess that I could have uses doxygen but it was first offline help so I did by hand the qhp file that is
[16:36] <bzoltan> bobweaver: why did not you use the Qt5's qtdoc?
[16:36] <bobweaver> so if one is to apt-get source ubuntu-ui-toolkit ; cd /ubuntu-ui-toolkit-0.1.44~precise1/documentation/ ; qdoc ubuntu-ui-toolkit-offline.qdocconf ;  cd html ;  bzr branch lp:~josephjamesmills/+junk/qch ; cd qch ; cp  ubuntusdk-help.qhp ../; cd ../ ; qhelpgenerator ubuntusdk-help.qhp -o ubuntu-ui-toolkit-help.qch ;      then just add that qch file to the help section of qtcreators options
[16:37] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  because that is the only way that I kbow how to make offline help pages
[16:38] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  I am asking because I do not use Qt4 dev tools. Should it work with Qt5 tools the same way?
[16:39] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-facebook-app/add_missing_deps/+merge/161189 <- for the missing deps of the facebook app
[16:39] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  not sure I just followed the manual that is in qtcreator
[16:40] <bobweaver> this is what I got (after altering css also )
[16:40] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/255501
[16:40] <sil2100> mhall119: ^
[16:41] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  Yes, it looks good
[16:41] <sil2100> sergiusens: ping
[16:43] <bzoltan> sil2100:  did you know that QtCreator + Ubuntu plugins would automatically fix the dependencies in the debian/control ? :)
[16:43] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  I was figuring that one could write a simple bash or whatever into ubuntu-ui-toolkit to generate new ones say when ever but I don't know about all that. just merdge the qhp file to ubuntu-ui-toolkit. But the Css us real messy
[16:44] <sil2100> bzoltan: nope, good to know ;) Since currently it's broken, so I decided to fix it ;)
[16:44] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  a differ3ent question that I have for you is. Should I make tutorial examples like qt has on welcomescreen
[16:44] <sergiusens> sil2100: pong
[16:45] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  so help pages pop up with code examples. for say Tabs and Page ect
[16:45] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  What I want is to add this file to the QtC package. How the QtC package is done now is simple... a builder scripts fetches the upstream QtC, and creates the Ubuntu plugin as a patch... after the new QtC is dput to the LP.  This builder could fetch the toolkit source and build the help
[16:46] <bzoltan>  sil2100:  good idea... I occasionally send MRs to core apps too
[16:46] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  Yup , what do you think about getting css fixed though
[16:46] <bzoltan> bobweaver: what is the diff?
[16:46] <bobweaver> that is the only thing that I hand alter
[16:46] <bobweaver> I will make diff now
[16:47] <sil2100> sergiusens: hi! hm, do you know by any chance where the source for the phablet-autopilot is being stored in bzr?
[16:49] <bzoltan> bobweaver: You can branch the UI Toolkit and send an MR to me if that is more convenient.
[16:56] <mterry> sil2100, heyo
[16:56] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  I will make brnch patch if you like ? here is css patch files https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/css_patches
[16:57] <achiang> sergiusens: next time you touch phablet-flash... typo fix? "Validatind download for ..."
[16:57] <bobweaver> it is ugly hack :/ on css but makes it look nice I mean there is no !IMPORANT things going on but alot is commented out ect
[16:57] <bzoltan>  bobweaver:  usually we do it with MRs
[16:57] <achiang> sergiusens: (not worth making a separate MP for but in the process of something else...)
[16:57] <sergiusens> achiang: already have an MR for that :-)
[16:57] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  I dont know what that is
[16:58] <sergiusens> achiang: with a download optimizations
[16:58] <achiang> sergiusens: heh, ok. could you also remove the extra print for "alternate settings" ? that was a debug print that i forgot to remove
[16:58] <bobweaver> bzoltan JBH but i learn quick. i think *oO
[16:58] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  you bzr branch the project, do your changes, bzr commit and bzr push to lp:~josephjamesmills/project_name/your_branch and then just propose it for merging...
[16:59] <sergiusens> achiang: yeah... going to have a cleanup session while flying :-)
[16:59] <sergiusens> achiang: and add modularity for some tests
[16:59] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  like bzr propus-merdge ?
[16:59] <ogra_> bobweaver, MR is short for "merge request"
[16:59] <bobweaver> but speeled right
[16:59] <achiang> sergiusens: nice. when do you leave?
[16:59] <sil2100> sergiusens: ^ :)
[16:59] <ogra_> silly abbreviation usage all around here :)
[16:59] <bzoltan> bobweaver: What I am more interested thou is how to make this help work context sensitive way ... so I move my cursor to MainView, hit F1 and the relevant page shows
[17:00] <bobweaver> thanks ogra_  ! bzoltan  I can do that if you like but there is bin in package (the qch file )
[17:00] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  I have to add more filters
[17:00] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  Well.. that will not pass :) for sure
[17:00] <bobweaver> and #Tabs at end
[17:01] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  you are talking about for the contexual menu right ie on hover in edit mode ?
[17:01] <bobweaver> f1
[17:01] <bzoltan> yes
[17:01] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  yeah I just need to make more filters and hash tags
[17:02] <bobweaver> so that the QHelpEngine knows wtef is going on
[17:03] <bzoltan> bobweaver: Exactly ... that feature is on my list. With fairly high priority
[17:03] <bobweaver> ok
[17:03] <bobweaver> should be
[17:04] <bobweaver> should I also add unity friends browser Hud ect
[17:04] <bobweaver> everything form the api's ?
[17:04] <bobweaver> and qt ref's to qml plugins ?
[17:05] <bobweaver> doxygen ^^
[17:06] <bobweaver> I will make example of html for you to look at
[17:09] <sergiusens> sil2100: autopilot/private
[17:10] <sil2100> sergiusens: awesome, thanks!
[17:10] <sergiusens> sil2100: it's not a series though ;-)
[17:11] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  here you go like the class and file examples https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/class_docs_example
[17:12] <bobweaver> should I also add them ?
[17:14] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  here is a pic of all that for I18n class http://imagebin.org/255507
[17:16] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  to be honest :) I am way too geek to get excited about design stuff. Usually  I work with design professionals who make sure that my stuff looks pretty.
[17:16] <bobweaver> +1
[17:16] <bzoltan> bobweaver:  so css tweaks are cool, but they are not on my list right now.
[17:16] <bobweaver> << horrible designer
[17:17] <bzoltan> bobweaver:   making things look pretty is a tough job, I trust the folks who are good at it :)
[17:18] <bzoltan> bobweaver:   so for me the priority with the docs is to make the UI Toolkit docs available in the QtCreator as help and make this help to work in a context sensitive way in the edit mode.
[17:19] <bobweaver> yup that is why I only change some of th css (like so words would not run together and one can read it )
[17:19] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  do you say that qml should come 1st ? just for sdk plugin ?
[17:19] <bobweaver> then c++ classes and hud and browser and friends plugins
[17:20] <bobweaver> do all qml docs 1st then work on c++ docs after ?
[17:20] <bzoltan> bobweaver: Since the UI Toolkit is in a fairly mature stage and it has very good documentation... yes, I would start with that
[17:21] <bobweaver> just trying to get a work load so I do not bother people for days. and I will also have something to do for days off
[17:22] <bobweaver> bzoltan,  the qhp file is also easy to edit. So updating package would not be hard Just not sure about shipping compressed help files (qch)
[17:23] <bobweaver> might have to be different package for watch file not sure kinda lost on that
[17:25] <Kakadu> Guys, where can I find data for resolving "import Ubuntu.Components 0.1" module? ubuntu-sdk?
[17:26] <bzoltan> bobweaver: the packaging and distribution is not something I worked out ... I think that the UI Toolkit could provide a QtC help package what installs nicely under the QtC
[17:26]  * Kakadu is trying to run this apps without ubuntu
[17:28] <Kommodant> Hello
[18:02] <msvb> Anyone here written games for Ubuntu touch in HTML5 using the Yoyogames Studio or game engine?
[18:08] <Kakadu> So, about facebook app: 1. You should add auth.js to deb (it is probably forgotten)
[18:09] <Kakadu> 2. Is it normal that facebook-app from bzr gives me 'file:///home/kakadu/ubuntu-facebook-app/LoginPopup.qml:64: ReferenceError: accountService is not defined'
[18:09] <Kakadu> ?
[18:28] <tech4> Hello
[18:29] <tech4> I am trying to install on a Nexus 7 and it sits at waiting for device.
[18:29] <tech4> I can see that there is usb activity, wondering how long to ait before I give up.
[18:30] <tech4> Is it a long or short process?
[18:30] <pmcgowan> its pushing files to the nexus7 now?
[18:31] <tech4> The terminal window is at < waiting for device > and the cursor is on the next line blinking.
[18:33] <tech4> I am not sure if it is writing to it.  I ran through to the auto deploy and asked for the sudo password and told me it had to be unlocked to work
[18:33] <tech4> I entered my password and got < waiting for device >. What state does the Nexus need to be in?
[18:34] <tech4> Right now it is on the on and on the Desktop in Androind. Should be in booloader?
[18:35] <ZDmitry> tech4: I suggest your device is not recognized by adb. Try to reconnect device.
[18:35] <pmcgowan> tech4: are you following the instructions on the wiki?
[18:35] <tech4> Yes but I am sure I missed somethng
[18:37] <tech4> Just checking does it need to be on the home screen on the Nexus 7?
[18:37] <pmcgowan> tech4: it can be running android
[18:37] <pmcgowan> can you see it with adb devices
[18:39] <tech4> yes
[18:39] <tech4> I think I see what I did..
[18:39] <tech4> I am not sure I the debugger is setting are done
[18:40] <tech4> I didn't tap the build number 7 times to be developer
[18:41] <tech4> now it is pushing.
[18:41] <tech4> just needed to talk it out
[18:41] <pmcgowan> ah good
[18:54] <Minste> I´m having problems with todays build. Closing apps won't work, and Gallery app won't even open, just gives me a black screen. ???
[19:02] <pantza> Hi Guys, I am trying to install ubunto-touch on my nexus 7 - i get an error,that adbd cant work as root on a production build
[19:02] <pantza> is there someting i could do? the device is unlocked
[19:03] <pmcgowan> Minste: there are issues with todays build, should ahve them resolved by end of the day
[19:03] <mhall119> kenvandine: with the raring device images, do I need the super-friends PPA?
[19:03] <pmcgowan> Minste: can close apps from the running apps lens now
[19:04] <mhall119> pmcgowan: does the daily image use the latest unity-next?
[19:04] <Minste> pmcqowan: okay :) Thanks for information :)
[19:05] <pmcgowan> mhall119: thats whats in process
[19:05] <kenvandine> mhall119, no you don't
[19:05] <pmcgowan> pantza: maybe not in developer mode
[19:06] <pmcgowan> pantza: enable usb debugging?
[19:06] <kenvandine> mhall119, btw, there is a qml-friends-doc package in daily-build-next PPA
[19:06] <kenvandine> mhall119, can you look at getting that up on d.u.c?
[19:06] <mhall119> kenvandine: absolutely, thanks for making it
[19:06] <pantza> pmcgowan:  i think so, but i'll check -thx
[19:06] <kenvandine> or maybe for "13.04" docs i should put it in a 13.04 ppa
[19:07] <kenvandine> mhall119, so you don't start getting 13.10 docs next week :)
[19:07] <kenvandine> when i start bumping the API version :)
[19:07] <mhall119> kenvandine: yeah, I need to copy over all the 12.10 docs to 13.04
[19:08] <kenvandine> so it doesn't automatically update on d.u.c?
[19:08] <pantza> pmcgowan: debugging mode is active
[19:08] <kenvandine> if you grab what is there now then i start breaking the API in that ppa, it won't affect the docs you copied for d.u.c?
[19:09] <ogra_> pantza, kill adb on your PC ... it should work the second time (this is described in detail on the install wiki page)
[19:11] <mhall119> hmmmm, HUD doesn't work in the latest image
[19:11] <mhall119> kenvandine: no auto-updates yet, no
[19:12] <kenvandine> great
[19:12] <kenvandine> so snag what's there for 13.04 then :)
[19:12] <kenvandine> mhall119, i almost got docs for accounts-qml-module
[19:12] <mhall119> kenvandine: that's in the ppa or in raring's archives?
[19:13] <kenvandine> in raring
[19:13] <kenvandine> but the -doc packages will be in the ppa
[19:13] <pantza> ogra_:  i did this - same problem. the nexus is automounted - could this be the problem?
[19:13] <kenvandine> i've got the docs all updated for the accounts bindings but the package doesn't want to install them... it might have just been a case of me working on them at 2am :)
[19:14] <ogra_> pantza, oh, indeed it could
[19:14] <pmcgowan> it shouldnt automount in debug mode ?
[19:14] <ogra_> mtp ?
[19:14] <pantza> yes
[19:15] <ogra_> right, we have a bug open for that
[19:15] <pmcgowan> right, it still has android
[19:15] <mhall119> pmcgowan: is there a know HUD issue with the raring images?
[19:15] <pmcgowan> there sure is, its totally busted
[19:15] <mhall119> ok, not just me then :)
[19:15] <tech4> OK.. I got it on the nexus 7. How do I bring up the on screen keyboard?
[19:16] <mhall119> tech4: it'll come up whenever a text field has focus
[19:16] <pmcgowan> tech4: just touch any text field
[19:16] <pmcgowan> like go to netowkring and get on your netowrk
[19:17] <ogra_> bug 1160847
[19:17] <ogra_> i guess it is related somehow (not the same though)
[19:17] <pmcgowan> for me it tries once and gives up
[19:17] <pmcgowan> on raring
[19:17] <tech4> So, I am trying to enter the Wireless password, I get the cursor in the box but noon screen keyboard...
[19:18] <pantza> thx a lot!
[19:18] <pmcgowan> tech4: I hate to say this but try rebooting once, there is a bug on a race for that
[19:19] <pmcgowan> you can also try in the mssages pulldown
[19:23] <mhall119> bugger, my InverseMouseArea bug is still there in the raring images
[19:26] <Kakadu> That's a pity! I tryed Ubuntu 13.04 and touch apps worked but Xserver was ugly and unity3d was very slow. Now I have installed guest additions from raring repo and Unity is very smooth, but QML apps like facebook one crashes VirtualBox without any descriptive logs.....
[19:26] <Kakadu> Maybe there are any docs about develoing ubuntu-touch apps under debian?
[19:26] <ogra_> nope
[19:27] <ogra_> time to write some ! :)
[19:28] <Kakadu> :)
[19:36] <Guest63812> tech4, you need to reboot device
[19:36] <Guest63812> and after you can access keyboard for wifi password
[19:44] <sergiusens> mhall119: if you update&&upgrade the hud thing will be solved
[19:44] <sergiusens> mhall119: new image coming as soon as the indicator-messages stuff works again
[19:47] <mhall119> sergiusens: cool, thanks
[19:47] <mhall119> having a terminal on my tablet now, means I can do that without plugging it in, this makes me unreasonably happy :)
[19:50] <kenvandine> mhall119, awesome, is the terminal in a ppa?
[19:50] <mhall119> kenvandine: it should be getting into the core apps PPA
[19:51]  * kenvandine looks forward to that :)
[19:51] <mhall119> I need to get the terminal widget plugin in there too
[19:51] <kenvandine> mhall119, are you running the latest raring image?
[19:51] <kenvandine> mhall119, if so, have you tried uoa-create with that?
[19:52] <mhall119> kenvandine: yes, but no
[19:52] <mhall119> just flashed it a bit afo
[19:52] <kenvandine> it worked for me with an apt-get upgrade
[19:52] <kenvandine> flashing now, but curious to know if i really fixed the issues :)
[19:53] <kenvandine> mhall119, you mean that isn't the first thing you do after flashing?  maybe i am the only one :-D
[19:54] <mhall119> sergiusens: will I be able to keep just update/upgrade-ing, or will regular flashes be better?
[19:54] <mhall119> kenvandine: I think you are :)
[19:54] <mhall119> first thing I do is install games
[19:54] <kenvandine> hehe
[19:55] <mhall119> man, I can't use Android anymore
[19:55] <mhall119> I keep swiping from the edges and nothing happens :(
[19:58] <sergiusens> mhall119: so these days, apt-get upgrade may be safe
[19:58] <sergiusens> mhall119: when hybris and platform-api change you will surely need a new android side
[19:58]  * mhall119 is so tempted to put "apt-get upgrade may be safe" on the quotes page
[19:59] <sergiusens> lol
[20:00] <sergiusens> you may not get improvements on the android side, but they aren't breaking features as of late
[20:02] <kenvandine> mhall119, do it!
[20:07] <p6644> When do you think that galaxy s4 will be ported to?. (planning for my next phone...)
[20:07] <achiang> sergiusens: if i just do a plain old phablet-flash on my maguro, will it automatically go from quantal => raring?
[20:11] <sergiusens> achiang: yes
[20:12] <achiang> sergiusens: rad. thanks.
[20:12] <sergiusens> achiang: just make sure you have latest tools or you will get an unsupported format error blah blah
[20:12] <achiang> sergiusens: yup, just pulled them this AM
[20:13] <mhall119> anybody around for the youtube meeting?
[20:35] <achiang> sergiusens: hm, i flashed and now my maguro won't boot
[20:36] <achiang> sergiusens: and... just as i pinged you, another reboot fixed it
[20:54] <cyphermox> sergiusens: hey
[20:55] <cyphermox> sergiusens: turns out I tried to ship about a thousand or so of my contacts on the nexus 4... it's not overly happy with it
[21:02] <mhall119> fginther: ping
[21:02] <sergiusens> cyphermox: ship?
[21:03] <cyphermox> sergiusens: import into EDS
[21:03] <cyphermox> push
[21:03] <cyphermox> I mean, whatever :)
[21:03] <sergiusens> cyphermox: with the online accounts thing you mean? I don't use it as there's sort of a shell limitation on amount
[21:03] <cyphermox> interesting
[21:03] <cyphermox> well, with 1000 contacts it's slow, and you absolutely must search
[21:04] <cyphermox> there's not way to quickly scroll to somewhere
[21:07] <fginther> mhall119, pong
[21:07] <shadeslayer> ogra_: sigh, I was hoping to get X working with the Xorg.conf from ChromeOS
[21:07] <shadeslayer> didn't work :(
[21:08] <ogra_> i still think there is something missing in your kernel
[21:08] <shadeslayer> oh
[21:08] <shadeslayer> ogra_: there's DRM, I haven't enabled that
[21:09] <shadeslayer> would that make a difference?
[21:09] <mhall119> fginther: have I already asked you about getting https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/plugin auto-building in the core apps PPA?
[21:09] <mhall119> if I haven't, can we set that up?
[21:10] <ogra_> shadeslayer, well, worth a try at least
[21:10] <fginther> mhall119, hmm, it's already setup
[21:10] <fginther> mhall119, let me look into why it's not working
[21:12] <mhall119> thanks
[21:13] <fginther> mhall119, there are no branches to merge
[21:13] <shadeslayer> ogra_: do you know if anyone would have an idea as to what's missing?
[21:13] <shadeslayer> even a hint :)
[21:13] <fginther> mhall119, at least not where I'm looking
[21:13] <ogra_> only the guys in #ubuntu-x come to mind, but its a bad time for them probably
[21:13] <mhall119> fginther: no MPs, but there's code in the series development branch, can that be triggered to build and upload to the PPA?
[21:13] <shadeslayer> oh?
[21:13] <rsalveti> shadeslayer: what x11 driver are you using?
[21:13] <fginther> mhall119, ahhhhh
[21:14] <rsalveti> I know by default the fb devices at android are kind of broken
[21:14] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: it's using fbdev
[21:14] <shadeslayer> ah
[21:14] <fginther> mhall119, yep that can be done
[21:14] <rsalveti> because of the way it uses surfaceflinger
[21:14] <rsalveti> try writing directly to your framebuffer
[21:14] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: actually, I'm trying to get X up, so, surfaceflinger?
[21:14] <rsalveti> you'll probably not get any noise
[21:14] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:14] <shadeslayer> you mean I should try directly writing to /dev/fb0?
[21:14] <rsalveti> if so, it might explain with fbdev is not working
[21:14] <fginther> mhall119, sorry, I was expecting a MP to be ready to land to kick all of that off
[21:14] <rsalveti> shadeslayer: just to test, yes
[21:15] <shadeslayer> okay
[21:15] <rsalveti> some devices are using drm based drivers
[21:15] <rsalveti> then xserver-xorg-video-modesetting might behave better
[21:15] <shadeslayer> will try
[21:16] <shadeslayer> oh fun, I enable fbcon and it just goes kaput
[21:16] <shadeslayer> doesn't even boot
[21:17] <ogra_> welcome to last week :P
[21:17] <ogra_> (we were there already iirc)
[21:17] <shadeslayer> yeah, but I thought it was booting
[21:18] <shadeslayer> but now that I have adb up, once I enable fbcon, it doesn't even boot and start adb
[21:18] <shadeslayer> so fbcon is a big no no :)
[21:18] <ogra_> i guess drm will actually help
[21:19] <shadeslayer> yeah, disabling fbcon and just enabling drm
[21:19] <ogra_> might even make xfbdev work ... i have seen weirder things already :)
[21:20] <shadeslayer> lets see :)
[21:20] <shadeslayer> aaannddd nothing
[21:21] <ogra_> then try the modesetting driver next
[21:21] <shadeslayer> yep
[21:25] <shadeslayer> ogra_: rsalveti http://paste.kde.org/733034
[21:25] <shadeslayer> with http://paste.kde.org/733040
[21:26] <rsalveti> [    19.171] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[21:26] <ogra_> and xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted
[21:26] <rsalveti> no drm fun
[21:26] <ogra_> we had that before
[21:27] <shadeslayer> what ogra_ posted is something either I missed before or something new
[21:27] <ogra_> no, we had that before, i'm pretty sure
[21:27] <shadeslayer> oh
[21:27] <ogra_> thats whay i insist that some kernel option is wrong
[21:27] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:28] <shadeslayer> I'm not sure which one could cause that
[21:28] <rsalveti> yeah, good to compare with the nexus 7 one for the ubuntu desktop
[21:29] <rsalveti> as it has fb working there
[21:29] <shadeslayer> uh, isn't the Nexus 7 a completely different SoC :P
[21:30] <ogra_> tegra is a breeze, for sure ...  but using the config as example should help
[21:30] <rsalveti> right, but quite many configs must be similar
[21:30] <ogra_> yeah
[21:35] <shadeslayer> okay
[21:50] <fginther> mhall119, the package has been dput, it's building now
[21:51] <mhall119> thanks fginther
[21:57] <Rafael> Hi!
[21:58] <Guest5596> I have a few questions
[23:25] <shadeslayer> ogra_: http://paste.kde.org/733094 < well, the setpgid error seems to be gone
[23:25] <shadeslayer> only happens with the modesetting driver
[23:28] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: ^^ so the modesetting driver seems to cause more issues?