| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Squirm | morning | 05:41 |
|---|---|---|
| skillpiG | Tinuva ! | 05:48 |
| skillpiG | we meet again.. | 05:48 |
| Tinuva | TrollPig!!! | 05:49 |
| skillpiG | this is where we will have our final battle | 05:51 |
| skillpiG | prepare yourself Tinuva ! | 05:51 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 06:22 |
| Kilos | ai! stupid konversation | 06:22 |
| Squirm | morning Kilos | 06:22 |
| Squirm | you're in late today | 06:22 |
| Squirm | shame! | 06:22 |
| Kilos | its cold squirm so i lay under cover a bit longer and read | 06:23 |
| Squirm | :/ | 06:24 |
| Squirm | I want to do that | 06:24 |
| Kilos | but ive fed the chickens already and the grass is freezing on bare feet | 06:25 |
| skillpiG | chuckens! | 06:27 |
| skillpiG | what are you doing with chickens? | 06:27 |
| Kilos | eggs the dogs dont steal | 06:28 |
| Kilos | and sometimes roast chicken | 06:28 |
| skillpiG | :D | 06:29 |
| skillpiG | do you farm ? | 06:29 |
| Kilos | i live on my sisters plot | 06:29 |
| skillpiG | awesome | 06:29 |
| skillpiG | I love the farm life style | 06:29 |
| Kilos | she works and i look after the sheep and chickens | 06:29 |
| Kilos | yeah | 06:29 |
| skillpiG | we used to have a family owned farm, would go there once a month for a weekend | 06:29 |
| skillpiG | now my uncle bought the whole farm and he's busy with chickens as well :O | 06:30 |
| skillpiG | like 60k chuckens per 'harvest' | 06:30 |
| Kilos | there is money in broilers | 06:30 |
| Kilos | quickest turnover of all livestock | 06:31 |
| skillpiG | if you can only score a nice contract | 06:31 |
| Kilos | every 6 weeks | 06:31 |
| skillpiG | a bit more difficult if you have to sell it yourself | 06:31 |
| skillpiG | I cant remember the price, but he sold (I think 10 or 20k) to SPAR | 06:31 |
| skillpiG | for like R14 ea | 06:31 |
| skillpiG | already cut ofcourse | 06:32 |
| Kilos | what most peeps i know did they allowed rainbow to build the sheds and supply everything then they fetch them too | 06:32 |
| skillpiG | but yeah, I like going to the farm | 06:33 |
| skillpiG | cleanest air and best sleep | 06:33 |
| Symmetria | hrm | 06:33 |
| Symmetria | how rough is an openvpn setup | 06:33 |
| Symmetria | its been years since I attempted that | 06:33 |
| Kilos | on your own the input costs are heavy to build up and then as you say the market | 06:33 |
| skillpiG | yeah, he's on his own | 06:33 |
| skillpiG | but he has a nice set up | 06:33 |
| skillpiG | checks on them every hour or two | 06:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:34 |
| skillpiG | even with a little 'hospital' section | 06:34 |
| skillpiG | where the ones that survived a near death drowning experience or trampled by the others | 06:34 |
| Kilos | most guys then breed picks as well to feed the dead chicks to | 06:34 |
| Kilos | pigs | 06:34 |
| Kilos | not skillpiGs | 06:35 |
| Kilos | oink oinks | 06:35 |
| skillpiG | :D | 06:35 |
| skillpiG | where is your plot ? | 06:35 |
| skillpiG | are you in the gauteng area ? | 06:35 |
| Kilos | west of pretoria | 06:35 |
| skillpiG | how you enjoying the pressured prices these days ? | 06:36 |
| skillpiG | allow external farmers around ZA to bring their meat in at a stupid price | 06:36 |
| Kilos | the what? | 06:36 |
| skillpiG | but farmers in ZA aren't allowed to take their meat out of ZA | 06:36 |
| Kilos | ah we just keep stock for own use | 06:36 |
| Kilos | few sheep and free range common fowls | 06:37 |
| Symmetria | heh, you arent even allowed to bring meat in as a private person normally | 06:37 |
| Symmetria | I almost got busted coming over the namibian border with 3 kilograms of dried wors in my boot once ;p | 06:37 |
| Symmetria | namibian dried wors > * | 06:38 |
| skillpiG | :P | 06:38 |
| Kilos | aptitude just had an upgrade today | 06:39 |
| Kilos | 2.3 meg. i winder what has been changed / improved | 06:40 |
| Kilos | wonder | 06:40 |
| skillpiG | 13.04 is out | 06:43 |
| skillpiG | so probably something to do with that | 06:43 |
| Kilos | i tried to find the download link for za but gave up and went to bed | 06:44 |
| Kilos | we need to educate maaz | 06:45 |
| Kilos | inetpro: teach the bot the right links man | 06:45 |
| Kilos | Maaz: get ubuntu | 06:45 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 301 Moved Permanently to http://www.ubuntu.com/, which gets a 200 OK "Home | Ubuntu" | 06:45 |
| Tinuva | lol Kilos i gave you the link yester day for za | 06:49 |
| Tinuva | or just use the official mirror link and add za. infront of it | 06:50 |
| Kilos | you did? | 06:50 |
| Kilos | oh my | 06:50 |
| Tinuva | http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ or http://ftp.wa.co.za/pub/ubuntu/releases/raring/ | 06:50 |
| Tinuva | both those are local | 06:50 |
| Kilos | ty skillpiG | 06:50 |
| N8Wulf | good morning all | 06:53 |
| Kilos | hi N8Wulf | 06:53 |
| N8Wulf | How you Kilos? | 06:54 |
| Kilos | ok ty and you N8Wulf ? | 06:54 |
| N8Wulf | good tnx, working like an Egyptian slave though | 06:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:56 |
| N8Wulf | Q: how do i reset / flush dns? I had issue a while ago, did mv resolve.conf resolv.conf.backup and that sorted me for about a month, now I'm sitting with same prob again | 06:58 |
| N8Wulf | the mv trick only wotks once | 06:58 |
| Tinuva | N8Wulf, does your linux install make use of nscd? | 06:59 |
| N8Wulf | i'm lying..... i just tried it again now, it worked. last night it did not wanna work | 07:00 |
| N8Wulf | nscd nope | 07:00 |
| N8Wulf | will install it now, seeing as i can connect again | 07:00 |
| Kilos | hi morgs | 07:01 |
| morgs | hi Kilos | 07:01 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 07:02 |
| N8Wulf | is it just me or is talking about my probs here just like going to a Psyc... i tend to figure my own linux probs out just by talking about them | 07:02 |
| Tinuva | my install is using somethign else again | 07:03 |
| Tinuva | hmm | 07:03 |
| Kilos | here you can get experts to check that you do the right things N8Wulf | 07:13 |
| Kilos | otherwise you can end up like me and do many clean installs | 07:14 |
| Tinuva | the problem is I havent run a regular ubuntu install in a long time | 07:15 |
| Kilos | wb N8Wulf | 07:27 |
| Kilos | what are you using Tinuva ? | 07:27 |
| Tinuva | i did a ubuntu minimal install, and then installed openbox + tint2 + some other cool stuff | 07:28 |
| Kilos | aha | 07:28 |
| Kilos | thats too much hard work for me | 07:28 |
| Tinuva | it pretty much looks like crunchbang, except its ubuntu not debian | 07:29 |
| Tinuva | heh, once it is set up, it is awesome | 07:29 |
| Kilos | only other os i have tried since i came to ubuntu is tinycorelinux | 07:30 |
| Tinuva | i miss the up to dateness of archlinux, but THAT became to much daily work to keep it up to date | 07:31 |
| * nuvolari see we can start a fanclub for arch/minimalistic DE's | 07:45 | |
| Tinuva | heh | 08:07 |
| Tinuva | technically any distro can be minimalistic :) | 08:07 |
| Kilos | yo Vince-0 | 08:35 |
| Vince-0 | yo Oom | 08:36 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:36 |
| Vince-0 | going to Jo'burg for Metallica for tomorrow | 08:38 |
| magespawn | hey all | 09:15 |
| Symmetria | finally! openvpn works | 10:34 |
| Symmetria | holy crap that was a bitch to configure properly | 10:34 |
| Squirm | I wanted to go to Jo'burg for Metallica :/ | 10:46 |
| magespawn | Symmetria what was the hang up? | 10:48 |
| magespawn | hah see I did not even know they were coming till Vince-0 said something | 10:48 |
| magespawn | Squirm: so if it is any comfort i won't be going either | 11:16 |
| Vince-0 | awww | 11:26 |
| === Guest5678 is now known as blak_rob | ||
| blak_rob | hello | 13:35 |
| blak_rob | someone? anyone? | 13:37 |
| HawkiesZA | Hi blak_rob | 13:38 |
| magespawn | hi blak_rob | 13:40 |
| magespawn | hey HawkiesZA you becoming almost regular | 13:40 |
| HawkiesZA | almost | 13:41 |
| nuvolari | disturbing, how am I supposed to cope after reading something about droëwors :-/ | 13:41 |
| magespawn | good or bad nuvolari? | 13:42 |
| magespawn | i would ask what but then we might no be able to cope | 13:44 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 13:51 |
| Kilos | you guys are supposed to welcome visitors | 13:52 |
| * HawkiesZA puts his welcome face on | 13:53 | |
| Kilos | lol | 13:53 |
| HawkiesZA | <Huge smile> Welcome visitors! We're available and happy to help with all your questions! | 13:53 |
| magespawn | we did, bit slow maybe | 13:53 |
| HawkiesZA | How's that? | 13:53 |
| Kilos | thats the way no save that for the next one | 13:54 |
| Kilos | so magespawn have you tried 13.04? | 13:54 |
| HawkiesZA | I wonder if I can script that for whenever a non-regular enters | 13:54 |
| Kilos | we tried with an ibid bot HawkiesZA but the script needs working on | 13:55 |
| magespawn | nah not yet, will do upgrade to the shop pc tomorrow | 13:55 |
| Kilos | you good at python? | 13:55 |
| HawkiesZA | Well.... | 13:55 |
| HawkiesZA | I have to be careful what I say in here :P | 13:55 |
| HawkiesZA | I can take a lookie | 13:56 |
| Kilos | i can paste the script | 13:56 |
| HawkiesZA | So it's basically a plugin for ibid? | 13:56 |
| Kilos | lemme find it | 13:56 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:56 |
| HawkiesZA | Neat | 13:56 |
| Kilos | i sent my bot here and it greeted everyone 1 at a time | 13:56 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s204bYbQ3g | 14:00 |
| Kilos | you will need to hear from the fly and/or the weed what needs doing | 14:02 |
| HawkiesZA | the super fly? | 14:03 |
| Kilos | well duh! how many flies we got here | 14:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:03 |
| HawkiesZA | Two :P | 14:03 |
| Kilos | they both are too busy to work through the script | 14:03 |
| HawkiesZA | But kewl. I know the fly | 14:03 |
| Kilos | the mrs one just lurks, she aint chatted for a long time | 14:04 |
| Kilos | superfly: can you just tell HawkiesZA what need sdoing please | 14:05 |
| Kilos | hi grantw | 14:19 |
| Kilos | maybe it should remember all old nicks and only greet noobs the i dunno if the time factor is important anymore HawkiesZA | 14:21 |
| Kilos | thats why you gotta talk to superfly or tumbleweed . i know nothing about scripting | 14:22 |
| HawkiesZA | I think the time factor could be important if someone times out | 14:28 |
| HawkiesZA | I wouldn't want to be greeted every time I timeout | 14:28 |
| Kilos | not if it remembers old nicks ? | 14:28 |
| HawkiesZA | I think I have an idea what needs to happen. Might take me some time to get it right ;) | 14:29 |
| Kilos | wasnt that idle time just for it to not greet if channel was busy? | 14:29 |
| HawkiesZA | In the meantime, it's probably a good idea to head home :) | 14:29 |
| Kilos | go safe | 14:30 |
| HawkiesZA | Yupyup! | 14:30 |
| HawkiesZA | The idle time checks if the channel is busy, yeah. So it'll greet newcomers only if the channel is idle. | 14:30 |
| HawkiesZA | Which seems fine. If the channel is busy, people will probably notice the new guy | 14:31 |
| HawkiesZA | Aaaanyway | 14:31 |
| HawkiesZA | Chat later | 14:31 |
| magespawn | later all | 16:00 |
| Squirm | hi | 16:09 |
| Kilos | hi | 17:03 |
| superfly | lo | 17:04 |
| Kilos | superfly: cany you tell hawkiesza what to look for and change in the ibid greeter script sometime please | 17:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes, I will | 17:15 |
| Kilos | ty | 17:16 |
| Kilos | whew 2 more hours till night surfer | 18:58 |
| Kilos | wbb need modem for a while on other machine | 19:01 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| inetpro | good evening | 19:25 |
| inetpro | oh and wb Kilos | 19:25 |
| Kilos | ohi inetpro hows things your side | 19:26 |
| Kilos | and ty | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: somehow still breathing :-) | 19:26 |
| Kilos | im gonna get 13.04 if i dont fall of the chair or fall asleep | 19:26 |
| inetpro | was another hectic week | 19:26 |
| Kilos | another one | 19:27 |
| inetpro | they're all hectic these days | 19:27 |
| inetpro | if it's not work it is family and friends | 19:28 |
| Kilos | oh well only 20 years left for you | 19:28 |
| inetpro | to little time to kuier in here | 19:28 |
| Kilos | less if you retire at 55 | 19:28 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 19:28 |
| Kilos | ya me miss you man | 19:28 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:28 |
| Kilos | i gotta take chances with wget and out internet without your help | 19:29 |
| * Kilos cries | 19:29 | |
| inetpro | haha | 19:29 |
| Kilos | our internet | 19:29 |
| inetpro | at least you have many others who can help | 19:29 |
| Trixar_za | Kilos: Waiting to use your Midnight Surfer data to download the latest Ubuntu disc? | 19:29 |
| Kilos | yes Trixar_za | 19:29 |
| Squirm | :P | 19:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: oh and at least you can help others in here also | 19:30 |
| Kilos | dunno if i will work on my pc but ive got 12.04 kde running lekker so too bad if it dont | 19:30 |
| superfly | jammer Kilos, I still haven't gotten to mailing you those disks - net nie kaans of geld gehad nie | 19:30 |
| Trixar_za | I used mine to torrent You Don't Know Jack Volume III and the last Futurama Episode of Season 6 | 19:30 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 19:30 |
| superfly | *kans | 19:30 |
| Kilos | superfly: np 12.04 is great here | 19:31 |
| Kilos | 13.04 is just so i dont lose all the night surfer | 19:31 |
| * inetpro is very sad that we have yet another holiday tomorrow | 19:31 | |
| Trixar_za | Oh and part of Katawasa Shoujo | 19:31 |
| superfly | ah yes | 19:31 |
| Trixar_za | We have too many holidays | 19:32 |
| inetpro | thought I would get a chance to visit Telkom to get the 10GB Promo deal | 19:32 |
| Tonberry_ | and too little bandwidth | 19:32 |
| superfly | inetpro: I doubt tomorrow will be much different to any other Saturday? | 19:32 |
| inetpro | superfly: but sadly Telkom will be closed | 19:32 |
| Tonberry_ | tomorrow is a holiday? | 19:32 |
| superfly | inetpro: of course, Telkom is an extension of the goverment | 19:33 |
| Kilos | inetpro: tell about the 10g promo | 19:33 |
| Kilos | nm 2 still works | 19:33 |
| inetpro | Kilos: still the same thing, 10+10 for R299 per month | 19:34 |
| inetpro | but you have to sign up for 24 months | 19:35 |
| Kilos | aha clever | 19:35 |
| Kilos | but good price | 19:35 |
| inetpro | our bandwidth will hopefully be cheaper than that by the end of the 24 months but I somehow doubt | 19:36 |
| Kilos | but since 8ta and telkom did their bit my net is very slow | 19:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yep, I can somehow agree on that | 19:36 |
| Kilos | hardly ever goes above 100 kB/s | 19:36 |
| Kilos | will fone monday and complain | 19:36 |
| Kilos | maybe its time to start mailing CEO's again | 19:37 |
| inetpro | but Kilos this after 23:00 data is very tough on us man | 19:37 |
| inetpro | way to late to stay awake | 19:38 |
| Kilos | yeah i agree, i suffer after 9pm | 19:38 |
| Kilos | wanted to try with at | 19:38 |
| Kilos | but dunno what will happen if im asleep | 19:38 |
| Kilos | does wget work with at? | 19:39 |
| inetpro | I have 1GB that I must use before Wednesday next week | 19:39 |
| Kilos | lol im not even sure im gonna get 13.04 with wget | 19:40 |
| inetpro | wget should work with at | 19:40 |
| Kilos | whew you better get to some downloading | 19:40 |
| magespawn | evening all | 19:40 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 19:40 |
| inetpro | magespawn: hello and eb | 19:40 |
| inetpro | wb as well | 19:40 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:41 |
| Kilos | had me thinking there | 19:41 |
| magespawn | here is something i just found http://thehackernews.com/2012/03/anonymous-os-01-anonymous-hackers.html | 19:41 |
| Kilos | bad for head that man | 19:41 |
| magespawn | just reading logs | 19:43 |
| Kilos | clever guys hey got xchat and pidgin | 19:43 |
| magespawn | i would not want to sign a 24 month now | 19:43 |
| Trixar_za | Classical hackers or the media's misnomer? | 19:44 |
| inetpro | magespawn: I also hate the idea but it's the best deal in Town | 19:44 |
| Kilos | based on ubuntu with mate so back to gnome2 | 19:45 |
| inetpro | I keep wasting money with the other prepaid deals | 19:45 |
| magespawn | Trixar_za: seems to be classic | 19:45 |
| inetpro | there's no way that I can even stretch 2GB for one month let alone two months | 19:45 |
| Trixar_za | Then I will read it :P | 19:46 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:46 |
| magespawn | inetpro: do you do all your internetting on mobile? | 19:46 |
| inetpro | magespawn: at home yes | 19:47 |
| Trixar_za | inetpro: I'm at 300MB from my 2GB+1GB Promo deal | 19:47 |
| Kilos | wow Trixar_za what you been doing | 19:47 |
| Trixar_za | Torrents | 19:47 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 19:47 |
| Kilos | movies? | 19:47 |
| Trixar_za | Games mostly | 19:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:48 |
| Trixar_za | You can find anything on the internet | 19:48 |
| inetpro | if you're not careful it vanishes very quickly | 19:48 |
| magespawn | i 'manage' on about 500mb on the tablet per month, but do most of mine over wifi | 19:48 |
| inetpro | and if you add two teenagers and a wife it goes even quicker | 19:49 |
| Kilos | hows you wifi plans going magespawn ? | 19:49 |
| Kilos | wifi | 19:49 |
| Kilos | eek inetpro ya then you need 10+10 | 19:49 |
| magespawn | icasa's requirements are insane | 19:49 |
| Kilos | only you will be the +10 | 19:50 |
| Kilos | aw magespawn thats sad | 19:50 |
| inetpro | magespawn: I noticed news about icasa but have not actually read any of it, what do they say? | 19:50 |
| magespawn | to apply to the licence it is R10g up front | 19:51 |
| magespawn | to=for | 19:51 |
| inetpro | eish! | 19:51 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:51 |
| inetpro | that is very rough | 19:52 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, this 300MB has to last another week before I have enough for another bundle :P | 19:52 |
| Kilos | and if they deny they keep it anyway | 19:52 |
| Kilos | swines | 19:52 |
| Trixar_za | Also it would be waste near the end of the month | 19:52 |
| magespawn | indeed | 19:52 |
| Kilos | money hungry swines | 19:52 |
| Kilos | all about money | 19:52 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no, they're just control freaks | 19:52 |
| inetpro | don't think it's about the money, but maybe I'm even wrong on that | 19:53 |
| Kilos | how will thewy know if one sets up a wifi area | 19:53 |
| magespawn | and the equipment would be another 50 to 60g, so those plans have been shelved | 19:53 |
| Kilos | how much is 60g | 19:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how will they know if you drive 160 on the highway? | 19:54 |
| Trixar_za | 1800 | 19:54 |
| Trixar_za | 60GB+60GB | 19:54 |
| Trixar_za | But lasts like a year | 19:54 |
| magespawn | they wouldn't, but there are players with networks already and they would loose business=incentive to report | 19:54 |
| Kilos | no man magespawn equipment of 50 or 60g | 19:55 |
| magespawn | i meant R60 000 | 19:55 |
| Kilos | not k? | 19:55 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: 60 / 12 = 5GB per month | 19:55 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 19:55 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, I did the math in my head too | 19:55 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 19:55 |
| Kilos | thought another new thing had come out | 19:55 |
| Trixar_za | and 5GB midnight surfer per month too | 19:55 |
| inetpro | that is not enough for me | 19:55 |
| Kilos | wow inetpro 60+60 not enough | 19:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nope | 19:56 |
| Kilos | 5 gigs a month | 19:56 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:56 |
| inetpro | not if I have to stretch it over 12 months | 19:56 |
| inetpro | 20GB per month would be comfortable for me | 19:57 |
| Kilos | you need uncapped | 19:57 |
| inetpro | uncapped is useless | 19:57 |
| inetpro | because they slow you down after 3GB or some such | 19:58 |
| magespawn | shaping | 19:58 |
| Kilos | ai | 19:58 |
| inetpro | at least MTN does that | 19:58 |
| Kilos | evrything crooked everywhere | 19:58 |
| Kilos | pity you aint got telkom lines | 19:58 |
| inetpro | and the slowdown/shaping is ridiculous, goes down to something like 256kbps | 19:58 |
| Kilos | lol thats fast man | 19:59 |
| Kilos | 8ta not close at the moment | 19:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 256kbps = 32 Kbps | 19:59 |
| Kilos | why when i download do i see kB/s | 20:00 |
| Kilos | when going good a meg in 5 secs or so | 20:00 |
| inetpro | oops kBps | 20:00 |
| inetpro | kBps = kB/s | 20:01 |
| Kilos | ya 256 kB/s aint bad | 20:01 |
| Kilos | but now 8ta dances right down to 45 kB/s | 20:01 |
| Kilos | will definitely fone monday | 20:02 |
| inetpro | eish... you have some other problem I think | 20:02 |
| inetpro | mine is at 0.86 Mbps | 20:02 |
| Trixar_za | They come and go | 20:02 |
| Kilos | whats that in mB/s | 20:02 |
| Trixar_za | Also sometimes 8ta jumps to MTN's network which means the Telkom Network bundles don't count | 20:03 |
| Trixar_za | Telkom Mobile* | 20:03 |
| Kilos | only when mobile Trixar_za | 20:03 |
| inetpro | and if I test again I get 1.67Mbps | 20:03 |
| Kilos | you testing how inetpro ? | 20:03 |
| Trixar_za | Around midnight it does clear up massively | 20:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: b = bits per second and B = bytes per second | 20:04 |
| Kilos | no man head too sore to think | 20:04 |
| inetpro | 8 bits = 1 byte | 20:04 |
| Trixar_za | Then I get about 300kb/s downloads. Which is faster than I used to get on GPRS or EDGE :) | 20:04 |
| Kilos | 8 bits to i byte | 20:04 |
| Kilos | ya Trixar_za mine was up to 300 kB/s a while back | 20:05 |
| Kilos | when 8ta was 8ta | 20:05 |
| Trixar_za | That's normal downloads, it's strangely faster using Transmission | 20:05 |
| Tonberry_ | that was a while ago... | 20:05 |
| Trixar_za | Especially if it has lots of seeds | 20:06 |
| Kilos | they even smsed me and said they increased memory to 12meg or something | 20:06 |
| Kilos | then everything went slower | 20:06 |
| Kilos | what is verbose | 20:07 |
| Kilos | -v option in wget | 20:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: The default output is verbose | 20:08 |
| Kilos | ? | 20:09 |
| Kilos | what does it mean | 20:09 |
| Kilos | what does it do | 20:09 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you see stuff happening as it downloads | 20:09 |
| magespawn | it tells you everything | 20:09 |
| Kilos | aoh thats lekker | 20:09 |
| Kilos | like rsync -av | 20:10 |
| inetpro | Kilos: well, almost like the v option of rsync | 20:11 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 20:11 |
| inetpro | you see a progress bar et all | 20:11 |
| Kilos | ya thats lekker | 20:12 |
| inetpro | but if you do a download while you're asleep there's no point in having that | 20:12 |
| Trixar_za | Is it true what I hear about Ubuntu going the Qt route? | 20:12 |
| Kilos | lol im nosy man will keep peeking | 20:12 |
| inetpro | then yo usually tell it to keep quiet with the -q option | 20:12 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: Qt is the way to go | 20:13 |
| superfly | Trixar_za: they've been talking about using QML with Ubuntu Touch, and in order to use QML you need to use Qt | 20:13 |
| Trixar_za | It's amazing the adaption rate of something the moment it adopts a less restrictive license | 20:14 |
| superfly | Trixar_za: true enough. working with Qt/C++ is a dream compared to GTK | 20:15 |
| superfly | so I'm not surprised everyone is jumping on the band wagon since the less restrictive licensing | 20:16 |
| Trixar_za | Should make the KDE fans happy at least. Most don't like the changes to the latest KDE | 20:17 |
| superfly | what changes are you talking about? | 20:17 |
| Trixar_za | Much like the GTK community doesn't like the direction GNOME is taking :P | 20:17 |
| Trixar_za | Couple of months ago they made some major changes to KDE. A part of the community didn't like the direction it was heading. | 20:18 |
| Trixar_za | So they started looking for alternatives | 20:18 |
| Trixar_za | This is from memory though | 20:19 |
| Trixar_za | It was why SliTaz started working on a Qt version | 20:19 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: I'm not sure what you're referring to there | 20:19 |
| inetpro | that may have been like 3 years ago? | 20:20 |
| Trixar_za | pankso (SliTaz's Creator) mentioned it a year ago, so maybe | 20:20 |
| inetpro | AFAIK kde is on a pretty stable path at the moment | 20:21 |
| inetpro | Nokia gave us a bit of a knock and then Canonical also became less serious about kde but all those have made kde stronger IMHO | 20:22 |
| magespawn | how is nokia involved? Qt? | 20:28 |
| Trixar_za | Nokia created Qt | 20:29 |
| Trixar_za | I think | 20:29 |
| Trixar_za | or did they just own the license? :P | 20:29 |
| inetpro | hmm... if I remember correctly they bought qt before they dropped the bomb to join MS | 20:32 |
| superfly | Trixar_za: no, Trolltech created Qt. Nokia bought Trolltech. Mr MS joined Nokia and started steering Nokia down the path to destruction, and Nokia sold off Qt to Digia. | 20:33 |
| superfly | Before Mr MS joined, and just after Nokia bought Trolltech, Nokia LGPLed Qt | 20:33 |
| inetpro | Trolltech was founded by Eirik Chambe-Eng and Haavard Nord on 4 March 1994 | 20:33 |
| Trixar_za | Oh fun | 20:33 |
| Trixar_za | No wonder so many people were worried about the future of Qt | 20:34 |
| magespawn | had a look at it when nokia had it, thought they were going to us it for their phones | 20:34 |
| inetpro | luckily they did the LGPL at the right time | 20:34 |
| inetpro | On 28 January 2008, Nokia Corporation announced that they had entered into an agreement that Nokia would make a public voluntary tender offer to acquire Trolltech | 20:35 |
| inetpro | Nokia sold the commercial licensing business of Qt to Digia on March 2011 | 20:35 |
| superfly | magespawn: they were going to, until Mr MS joined | 20:36 |
| superfly | Trixar_za: I think the project you're thinking of is the Trinity Desktop, which is a fork of KDE 3 when KDE 4 came out and people decided they didn't like the direction KDE was going in | 20:37 |
| superfly | similar to Gnome 2 and Gnome 3/Shell | 20:37 |
| magespawn | wonder at the choices sometimes | 20:37 |
| inetpro | the whole Mr MS saga makes me sick! | 20:38 |
| inetpro | I think those R&D guys at Nokia where in a very good position to come with something amazing just before he joined | 20:39 |
| Trixar_za | It's a FLOSS thing. There will always be a group going in another direction to the main group. | 20:39 |
| superfly | As of Qt 5.2, anyone who doesn't choose Qt must be braindead. Write your app in Qt, deploy it to Symbian, Windows Phone (I think), Android, and desktop | 20:39 |
| superfly | where desktop = Windows, Linux, OS X, FreeBSD, etc. | 20:39 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, even I considered Qt a while back | 20:40 |
| Trixar_za | But I don't know C++ well nor do I like it that much :P | 20:40 |
| magespawn | i still like their designs and specs, os aside | 20:40 |
| magespawn | need to able to flash the lumia 980 to android | 20:42 |
| magespawn | good night all | 20:46 |
| inetpro | good night magespawn | 20:48 |
| Kilos | night magespawn | 20:51 |
| inetpro | superfly: how stable is Kubuntu 13.04 now? | 20:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro: gaan slaap now | 20:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hoekom? | 20:57 |
| superfly | inetpro: it seems fairly stable | 20:57 |
| superfly | never had any serious problems | 20:57 |
| * inetpro is nog lekker wakker | 20:57 | |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hoe later dit word hoe moeilikker word dit om te gaan slaap | 20:58 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:58 |
| Kilos | amper wget tyd | 20:58 |
| inetpro | probleem is om in die oggend wakker te word | 20:58 |
| Kilos | ya | 20:59 |
| superfly | long past time for me to go to bed | 21:00 |
| superfly | bye | 21:00 |
| inetpro | good night superfly | 21:00 |
| Kilos | night superfly | 21:00 |
| Kilos | night all , sleep tight | 21:04 |
| Kilos | whew 13.04 is 794 meg | 21:06 |
| Kilos | night | 21:06 |
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