[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Wasn't the !studio roadmap finished eons ago? :)
[03:10] <holstein> !studio
[03:11] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: is that something in the topic?
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh no, not at all. I just remember following Ubuntu Studio's progress during the Raring dev cycle and saw the roadmap was complete.
[03:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Long before all the other !flavors.
[03:12] <holstein> i bet smartboy or zequence or len-1304 knocked it out
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> I'd place my bet on zequence. Doesn't he kind of head the !studio project?
[03:13] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: zequence is the ubuntustudio team lead
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Thought so.
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Congratulations for winning the "Fastest Ubuntu Development Team in Existence" award.
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> For Raring.
[03:14] <holstein> :)
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> I use the studio pointer packages on Unity... fun stuff really.
[03:17] <holstein> studio pointer?
[03:18] <holstein> you mean, you use the studio meta packages on main ubuntu?
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah. I call them pointers. (They "point" to the other packages.)
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> I think it's an old Solaris term. (OpenSolaris 2009.06 was my first taste of UNIX.(
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[03:54] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: cool... should work welll with any of the variants
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Unity is (almost) seamless. And especially with the Qt programs, as Unity Next will be written in Qt.
[03:56] <holstein> its probably where we are headed
[03:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Unity Next?
[03:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Or just Qt in general?
[03:57] <holstein> just QT in general
[03:57] <holstein> not sure what ubuntustudio will do
[03:58] <SonikkuAmerica> They've still got their bottoms planted in the "archaic, detoriorating chairs" of GTK+
[03:58] <SonikkuAmerica> *deteriorating
[03:59] <holstein> well, it wasnt "deteriorating" when we went with XFCE
[03:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Well... to me it seems like GTK+ design is like playing a pipe organ...
[03:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Becoming somewhat of a lost art.
[04:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Not to mention the X.org X server...
[04:01] <holstein> sure, but back when we switched, it was the thing to do.. for short term longevity.. if there is such a thing
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> More like a sanity measure... although I liked Natty's Unity.
[04:02] <holstein> unity was new.. gnome3 was new... gnome2 was gone.. LXDE was just too different and sparse... KDE too heavy
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> e17?
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Or e16 back then?
[04:02] <holstein> e17 wasnt "out" yet
[04:03] <holstein> though, i think it was too "different"
[04:03] <holstein> we went XFCE because it really seemed most like the old gnome2
[04:03] <SonikkuAmerica> I think it plops on top of X nicely myself, and it's getting ported to Wayland, but... yeah, I have to agree, although you might consider MATE.
[04:04] <holstein> mate was new too
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> It's the GNOME 2 fork though...
[04:05] <holstein> sure
[04:05] <holstein> but, it was new, and buggy.. and bad back then
[04:05] <holstein> it wasnt available to us either
[04:05] <holstein> it has to be in the main ubuntu repos for us to use it.. and mate wasnt there, and still isnt AFAIK
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope...
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Shame it snot
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> *shame it snot
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> **SHAME IT'S NOT (ugh)
[04:07] <holstein> eh... XFCE fits the bill, mostly
[04:07] <holstein> its very gnome2 like
[04:13] <Unit193> Heh, that's what people say, but I hated Gnome2 but Xfce is awesome.
[04:13] <holstein> Unit193: there were some little things about gnome2 that were annoying for sure
[04:13] <holstein> i dont think i really "liked" it either.. but i used it, and got used to it
[04:14] <SunStar> gnome was never that great
[13:51] <wip> congrats on 13.04!
[13:51] <wip> will install (fresh) this week-end
[13:51] <smartboyhw_> wip: :)
[13:51] <cfhowlett> enjoy.
[13:57] <wip> until then i am streaming binaural beats (gnaural / pd gem) with u-s 12.04: http://www.justin.tv/11h11
[13:57] <wip> (and gstreamer)
[13:57] <cfhowlett> wip, dammit.  made me go look
[13:58] <wip> cleaner interface is here: http://www.workinprogress.ca/epd/
[13:58] <wip> will eventually node.js it to control audio / video
[13:59] <wip> watch out, i will control your brain and you will send me all your money at the end of the session
[14:43] <wip> it was a joke eh, i don't want your money
[14:45] <zequence> wip: You can always send the money to me :P
[14:45] <smartboyhw_> lol
[14:46] <wip> will do, just need to fine tuned the frequencies
[14:46] <zequence> muhahahaa :D
[15:44] <wip> i am sure people are working on it, but the homepage of u-s is still pointing to beta: Try our latest Beta: Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 2
[15:45] <DarkEra> zequence, ^
[15:45] <zequence> wip: What do you mean?
[15:45] <zequence> Ah, right. The front tab
[15:45] <wip> yes
[15:45] <zequence> I'll change it right away
[15:46] <holstein> http://ubuntustudio.org/download/ looks correct though
[15:46] <wip> yes
[15:46] <zequence> I changed the download page right after release, but I forgot about the front tab
[15:50] <zequence> Ok. That should work
[15:51] <holstein> looks good
[16:03] <iu5wtrt6y> someone experienced on focusrite? .... this case pro 10 I/O...?....
[16:13] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: I have sapphire pro 40. What kind of problem are you having?
[16:19] <iu5wtrt6y> I can make it work. I have ffado, jack, and ardour (from official with plugins and so...).
[16:20] <iu5wtrt6y> I can rec with the normal instalation of ardour... without plugins, but not with the "big one"
[16:20] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: "big one"?
[16:21] <iu5wtrt6y> i mean the instalation from the official ardour site, with the pre-instalation of plugins, actualization...
[16:22] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: I don't think Ardour from the ardour site contains any plugins. Those should be the same
[16:23] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: But, if you're having problems recording with the official version of Ardour (the one from their site), then I recommend asking about it on #ardour
[16:23] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: Just to be totally clear. Jack is working all the time, right?
[16:30] <iu5wtrt6y> yes, but don't show correc tly the names of devices. I tried choosing hw1 (shown in terminal as the focusrite) and ardour don't start up
[16:31] <holstein> iu5wtrt6y: i wouldnt trust those labels
[16:31] <holstein> just test, and discover what is what...
[16:31] <iu5wtrt6y> sorry...fw1, with driver firewire
[16:32] <iu5wtrt6y> -/dev/fw1
[16:32] <holstein> iu5wtrt6y: you have to keep in mind what is happening there.. a driver that is *not* made by the manufacturer (or supported in any way) is doing what it can to provide you with support
[16:32] <holstein> iu5wtrt6y: when i use my firepod, i have only that device plugged in via firewire
[16:32] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: Don't you use any jack control application, such as qjackctl?
[16:33] <holstein> i just select the firewire driver in qjackctl
[16:33] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: It is best to start jack with a jack control application, like qjackct first. Then, start Ardour
[16:34] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: If you are not able to start jack with ardour directly, that may be something worth mentioning on #ardour
[16:35] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: But, if the issue is with a jack control application, and you are using only Ubuntu Studio (not additional PPAs), then we will gladly help
[16:36] <iu5wtrt6y> i understand, and i'm trying to solve all of this for many time, leave pro-tools, and work only with freesoft. Yes I use Qjackctl (even knowing is jackd who works there), but maybe the issue is on the instalation of ardour... Anyway, i have to leave. Being here just for try. Thanks a lot from Galicia. ;--)
[16:37] <zequence> iu5wtrt6y: Do come back again :)
[16:39] <iu5wtrt6y> ok ;-)