| Unit193 | Well, looks like in a couple releases, it may just be Xubuntu on GTK? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-April/003941.html | 00:15 |
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| bluesabre | not to worry, elementary 0.3 might be released in a few years | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:01 |
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| Noskcaj | i am the only one regretting not running the upgrade tests? | 08:06 |
| gry | what are they? | 08:11 |
| Noskcaj | gry, in the iso tracker, we were meant to test upgrading 12.10 to 13.04, no one did, and as a result it's super buggy | 08:24 |
| Noskcaj | can someone confirm that 13.04 has 2 bluetooth icons if you upgrade? | 08:29 |
| ochosi | think i've also seen that in clean installs before | 08:29 |
| ochosi | blueman and some other bluetooth applet | 08:30 |
| Noskcaj | gnome bluetooth | 08:41 |
| Noskcaj | also, my grub and linux images didn't install properly :( | 08:42 |
| knome | micahg, you around? | 10:28 |
| knome | micahg, bug 1173114 | 10:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1173114 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu Raring uses Quantal wallpaper by default" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1173114 | 10:32 |
| skellat | unit193 knome micahg noskcaj -- Considering the GTK issue raised by unit193 last night, we should start logging issues to discuss here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop/+spec/client-xubuntu-1305 | 11:14 |
| skellat | I already threw a couple issues on the whiteboard as is | 11:16 |
| GridCube | can i suggest to add a topic to the saucy issues, for the consideration of HUD integration? | 12:59 |
| knome | GridCube, you are free to add any items to the whiteboard | 13:02 |
| GridCube | :) excellent | 13:02 |
| GridCube | do you want me to make a wiki with rationalization about it? | 13:02 |
| knome | not at this point | 13:02 |
| knome | we're preparing/planning the uds session, where we'll disuss there further | 13:03 |
| GridCube | :) | 13:03 |
| knome | *these | 13:03 |
| knome | after we've done that session, we should look at specifications | 13:03 |
| GridCube | :) | 13:05 |
| GridCube | done | 13:05 |
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| elfy | knome: when you are about - should I add system setting description change against blueprint, or just create a bug? | 17:54 |
| elfy | or of course anyone else with an opinion :) | 18:00 |
| knome | elfy, i'd say just a bug is fine | 19:06 |
| elfy | ok - as soon as I've got it intsalled as smug smaug I'll report it | 19:06 |
| elfy | evening Noskcaj | 19:07 |
| Noskcaj | morning | 19:07 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: Upgrade went fine for me, only didn't install new kernels (I use liquorix on that one anyway.) And I also had to hold a couple more packages for sane Indicator support. | 19:13 |
| knome | mmh | 19:13 |
| knome | the upgrades haven't been disastrous for me neither | 19:13 |
| knome | -n | 19:13 |
| Noskcaj | ok, then i need to try and fix some things | 19:14 |
| Unit193 | I still have proper indicators too. :D | 19:14 |
| Unit193 | knome: I find the sound one even more helpful on a desktop, that way you have an easy way to change volume. | 19:15 |
| knome | i don't use indicators at all on the desktop | 19:15 |
| knome | i have an small external box for changing the volume though | 19:15 |
| knome | meh, we didn't update our countdown banners | 19:18 |
| * knome doesn't care tonight | 19:18 | |
| knome | time to do non-FOSS things | 19:18 |
| Noskcaj | my issues: upubuntu hasn't got it's PPAs working, i had 2 bluetooth indicators to start with, then i deleted the network manager. i'm missing: grub-pc, linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-generic, initramfs-tools | 19:18 |
| knome | there's no promises about PPA's anyway | 19:20 |
| Noskcaj | What's everyones opinion on how many alpha/beta/candence releases we run? | 19:34 |
| elfy | it's entirely possible that everyone's opinion is glad that's over for 6 months and are taking a well earned rest | 19:38 |
| elfy | however - as I took a 6 month break ... | 19:38 |
| knome | Noskcaj, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop/+spec/client-xubuntu-1305 | 19:38 |
| elfy | I don't think that alpha's help much - better to call for testing as and when they are wanted | 19:38 |
| Noskcaj | knome, that's what i was working off, didn't know where to put comments. | 19:39 |
| Noskcaj | if i took a break i'd just spend more time modding my PC, so i'm staying here. | 19:40 |
| Unit193 | Good to know generally if the CDs work, and then targetted applications that are ours, like gmusicbrowser, catfish, themes, etc. | 19:40 |
| Noskcaj | i think we should have one alpha, just to try and set an actually target half way through the series | 19:41 |
| elfy | Unit193: which shouldn't need an alpha/beta or anything - just people testing regularly | 19:41 |
| Noskcaj | and get a bigger focus on the upgrade tests since we missed them entirely | 19:41 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, exactly, although oversized images are a different matter | 19:42 |
| elfy | it's certainly easy enough for me to make people aware that are regular testers on the forum | 19:42 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: not following that | 19:42 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, although not really a testing thing, many flavours released oversized or only fixed it in the last few days | 19:43 |
| elfy | is it not only lubuntu now that fits on a cd? | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | knome: Would it help if I did what I did about a week ago, only much earlier? :P | 19:44 |
| elfy | the size shouldn't matter if it's going to need a dvd or usb | 19:44 |
| knome | Unit193, yeah. | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | (I did it for my own purposes, but if it actually helps I should be doing it earlier.) | 19:47 |
| * elfy is curious | 19:48 | |
| knome | elfy, looking at the seeds | 19:48 |
| elfy | ok | 19:49 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Nothing much, just doing a diff on what's actually installed on the CD so I can update my script for a respin. | 19:49 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, lubuntu, netboot and server fit on cd | 19:49 |
| Noskcaj | although server PPC didn't for 13.04 | 19:50 |
| knome | this is the xubuntu development channel | 19:51 |
| elfy | indeed | 19:51 |
| elfy | so afaik - we don't need to even think about oversize | 19:51 |
| knome | yep | 19:52 |
| knome | mrrr, why isn't my translation working | 19:52 |
| elfy | tired and irritable? | 19:54 |
| Unit193 | knome: Ah, that reminds me, mind publishing plop? | 19:54 |
| knome | Unit193, should do that soon | 19:54 |
| knome | yay, poedit in raring shows context | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | Danke. | 19:55 |
| * knome puts on the new von hertzen brothers album and starts fighting the translation | 19:56 | |
| knome | elfy, ^ you might like that, progish rock | 19:56 |
| elfy | looks | 19:57 |
| elfy | sounds ok - or at least the one on their website does | 19:59 |
| knome | :) | 19:59 |
| elfy | lol | 20:17 |
| knome | lolwut? | 20:17 |
| elfy | that shows how much I know about wireless and *buntu | 20:17 |
| knome | gaaah | 20:17 |
| elfy | how long has it remembered wireless passwords from live to install for :p | 20:17 |
| knome | do you know any more about gettext? :P | 20:18 |
| elfy | probably not :p | 20:18 |
| knome | heh | 20:18 |
| knome | i'm baffled. | 20:18 |
| elfy | so was I | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | That's alright, the auto(re-)connect feature is broken for me, you too? | 20:20 |
| elfy | I'd not have the first idea | 20:21 |
| elfy | night | 20:34 |
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| skellat | Noskcaj: If you have comments on the blueprint, edit the whiteboard. Follow the pattern and add discussion questions perhaps or maybe a view of alternatives from the testing perspective. | 21:32 |
| * skellat disappears since he cannot walk and type on his netbook around Cleveland Clinic's main campus | 21:33 | |
| micahg | knome: not feeling so great, won't be able to look at it until tomorrow night | 21:38 |
| knome | micahg, that's fine. get well soon :) | 21:40 |
| Noskcaj | If we do follow up on the idea of a "HUD" for xubuntu, we should try and get Studio and Lubuntu involved as it would help all of the projects | 21:47 |
| Unit193 | That'd be a long way off anyway, but Lubuntu is lightweight and wouldn't (or shouldn't) be interested. | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | Something to note about it, since Unity is going the way of Qt, wouldn't this? | 21:51 |
| Noskcaj | 1. Lubuntu being involved would require it to be really light. 2. I assume so | 22:03 |
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