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saiarcot895 | Now that Raring has been released, can the packages that have been granted FFe still go into Raring stable? | 00:48 |
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maxb | 01:44 < maxb> It's slightly unclear what you mean by 'Raring stable' | 00:53 |
maxb | 01:47 < maxb> The raring release pocket is absolutely and completely immutable at this point. Stable Release Updates can be processed into raring-updates, but a grant of FFe prior to release probably is invalid at this point | 00:53 |
saiarcot895 | Ah well | 00:55 |
wgrant | saiarcot895: A new package? A new feature in an existing package? | 00:56 |
saiarcot895 | New upstream version in three existing packages | 00:56 |
saiarcot895 | all related | 00:56 |
wgrant | In either case an FFe isn't relevant any more, and your only option is probably to get it into saucy-backports | 00:56 |
wgrant | That sounds like a good case for -backports. | 00:56 |
saiarcot895 | You mean raring-backports, right? | 00:57 |
wgrant | Er, yeah | 00:57 |
wgrant | saucy, and then raring-backports | 00:57 |
wgrant | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports | 00:57 |
saiarcot895 | will work on that | 01:01 |
saiarcot895 | I still have to follor the sponsorship process, right? | 01:01 |
saiarcot895 | *follow | 01:01 |
ScottK | For backports you need to get it into saucy first | 01:16 |
saiarcot895 | I know | 01:17 |
saiarcot895 | To get it into Saucy itself, I still need to use the sponsorship process, right? | 01:17 |
crhrabal | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S failed | 05:34 |
crhrabal | bzr: ERROR: The build failed. | 05:34 |
crhrabal | when i try to build s test package i get this output, what am i doing wrong? | 05:34 |
cjwatson | We'd need to see the whole output (in a pastebin or similar). That looks like it follows some earlier error. | 05:36 |
crhrabal | http://pastebin.com/UT3tdwBj | 05:38 |
cjwatson | crhrabal: You need to satisfy the package's build-dependencies first. sudo apt-get build-dep mountmanager (unless this is a package you're developing, in which case install the Build-Depends listed in debian/control) | 05:39 |
crhrabal | cjwatson: Thanks. | 05:40 |
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bl4de | hi guys, I'd like to contribute into bug-solving etc...what do you recommend to start? | 09:47 |
bl4de | *contribute to | 09:47 |
bl4de | guyys :) | 09:53 |
deeps_ | i want to develop app for terminal using c++, but don't know where to start from :( could any one please help me | 12:54 |
GridCube | deeps_, you will have to be more specific | 13:07 |
sladen | deeps_: echo -e "#include <iostream>\nusing namespace stn ()\n{\n\tcout<<\"Hello World\";\n\treturn 0;\n}\n">hello-world.cpp&&g++ -o hello-world hello-world.cpp&&./hello-world;echo | 13:13 |
penguin42 | deeps_: If you want something that puts characters at specific places on the terminal or has a menu like thing in a terminal then you might want to look at libncurses or libnewt | 13:14 |
sladen | deeps_: echo C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C-e "#include <iostream>\nusing namespace std;\nint main ()\n{\n\tcout<<\"Hello World\";\n\treturn 0;\n}\n">hello-world.cpp&&g++ -o hello-world hello-world.cpp&&./hello-world | 13:14 |
sladen | meh | 13:14 |
sladen | deeps_: echo -e "#include <iostream>\nusing namespace std;\nint main ()\n{\n\tcout<<\"Hello World\";\n\treturn 0;\n}\n">hello-world.cpp&&g++ -o hello-world hello-world.cpp&&./hello-world | 13:15 |
deeps_ | i have develop app | 13:15 |
deeps_ | in c++ | 13:15 |
deeps_ | its ready... | 13:15 |
deeps_ | all i need to know is... | 13:15 |
deeps_ | let me start again... | 13:16 |
deeps_ | i have develop an app for terminal using c++ | 13:16 |
sladen | deeps_: ...compile it? ...package it? ...port it? | 13:16 |
ogra_ | run it ? | 13:17 |
deeps_ | i am stuck with 2 parts... | 13:17 |
deeps_ | 1st one... | 13:17 |
deeps_ | in terminal we have feature like by pressing <tab> key it shows the possible commands for the application... | 13:17 |
deeps_ | how do i do it with c++ | 13:17 |
deeps_ | no idea at all :( | 13:18 |
sladen | deeps_: readline | 13:18 |
sladen | deeps_: http://www.gnu.org/software/readline/ | 13:18 |
deeps_ | and how can i package it and make available as repo? | 13:20 |
sladen | deeps_: http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/my-apps-packages/ | 13:21 |
deeps_ | thanx a lot...i think i should check those links :) | 13:22 |
sladen | deeps_: https://launchpad.net/~sladen#email-addresses | 13:26 |
sladen | wendar: ^^where do the app-review team hang out these days? | 13:34 |
wendar | sladen: ubuntu-arb | 13:34 |
wendar | though, the first question sounds more like #ubuntu-app-devel | 13:35 |
sladen | wendar: ta, yes, the latter | 13:39 |
mzaza | Arer there Ubuntu project written in C++ I can contribute to? | 13:53 |
mzaza | Is there anyone alive here? | 14:03 |
smartboyhw | mzaza, be patient. Patience is one of the things needed when contributing:) | 14:03 |
mzaza | smartboyhw: Sure, OK :) | 14:04 |
sladen | mzaza: yes, plenty of people are alive. There is alot of software in Ubuntu that is written in C++. Is there perhaps a particular bug you've noticed, or feature that you would like. That might narrow down where to look and work on | 14:17 |
sladen | mzaza: apt-cache rdepends libgcc1 will show you a list of programmes using C++ | 14:19 |
infinity | sladen: It will? | 14:22 |
infinity | sladen: I think you mean libstdc++6 | 14:23 |
sladen | mzaza: ^^ | 14:25 |
mzaza | libstdc++6 then? | 14:25 |
sladen | mzaza: apt-cache rdepends libstdc++6 will show you a list of programs using C++ | 14:26 |
mzaza | sladen: Would you recomment an easy project to start on if I am new? I was think in Compiz but I think it might be complex for my level. | 14:27 |
sladen | mzaza: Is there perhaps a particular bug in Ubuntu, or feature you've wanted to add? That would narrow down what types of software might be interesting. The best is often to have a goal, and to work back | 14:30 |
sladen | mzaza: *Ubuntu, or any of the software packaged for Ubuntu | 14:30 |
mzaza | sladen: Yes, Unity. It's sluggish :D | 14:31 |
penguin42 | mzaza: Pick a package you use a lot and look through the bugs for it or pick a bug that annoys you | 14:33 |
mzaza | penguin42: And download it's repos using git, right? But how to know which file is releated to the bug, I mean is there like a file I should check to know more about where everything goes to? | 14:36 |
penguin42 | mzaza: That very much depends on the project - you have to get to know the source a bit - but that's learning | 14:37 |
sladen | mzaza: debugging; although for instance a stack-trace might lead you to the file/line-number; or even just simply reading the code (particularly in a small program/package) | 14:37 |
sladen | mzaza: did you have a bug number in mind/ | 14:37 |
mzaza | sladen: No not, yet I am checking the Bugsquad now and setting everything up. | 14:38 |
sladen | mzaza: what software do you use (other than Unity) | 14:41 |
mzaza | sladen: Well Ubuntu with Unity, vim, g++, chromium, virtualbox, monodevelop, smplayer. That's what I use on daily basis | 14:45 |
mzaza | sladen: The software center too | 14:45 |
mzaza | & Ubuntu one | 14:46 |
mzaza | The most thing I wish to help in fixing, but it will be complex for my level is the performance of Unity. I was surprised to see Windows 8 out performance Ubuntu on both low-end and high-end machines. | 14:48 |
penguin42 | yeh start simpler; although you might want to learn to use profiling tools like perf | 14:50 |
sladen | the performance of the Unity-3D codebase is somewhat ... suboptimal. A lot of the good old performance of Unity-2D should be regained with the move back to Qt | 14:50 |
mzaza | So, is there like a PDF guide written in easy way I could read like the KDE Developer guide to help me set me up? | 14:54 |
sladen | mzaza: why not work on a Qt/KDE application if you're already familiar with that area? | 15:02 |
penguin42 | yeh and they're normally C++ | 15:04 |
mzaza | sladen: I am not familiar I just read the guid and I was going to start working with it. But I don't use KDe so I thought I should work on something I use. | 15:04 |
sladen | mzaza: QML/Qt is the widget set and technology the Unity-Ubuntu stuff is using, so I don't think you'd go far wrong | 15:06 |
sladen | mzaza: perhaps you should work on smplayer! that is Qt | 15:08 |
mzaza | sladen: I'll check it out. Is it normal if feel somewhat lost :D | 15:10 |
mzaza | at the beggining I mean | 15:10 |
penguin42 | yes! | 15:14 |
penguin42 | mzaza: There's a lot of source out there and a lot of bugs, and some packages are BIG | 15:15 |
mzaza | penguin42: Right... | 15:21 |
mzaza | Well, thanks guys for helping me out :) | 15:22 |
mzaza | exit | 15:22 |
crhrabal | Well, I have perused documentation but can't find a lot of good tutorials. I have fixed a number of bugs within the code itself, I just don't know how to make a patch. I thought the actual development process was supposed to be the hard part, but it seems I'm mistaken. | 15:55 |
penguin42 | crhrabal: Patch at what point ? | 15:58 |
crhrabal | I got the source code on my computer, I fixed the source code | 15:58 |
crhrabal | And that's where I'm stuck | 15:59 |
penguin42 | ok, is it a debian package or just the upstream source, and did you download it as a tar or using git/svn/bzr/what? | 15:59 |
crhrabal | downloaded in bzr | 15:59 |
crhrabal | and its traced back to debian | 15:59 |
crhrabal | do i need to push it to debian before it can be pushed into ubuntu? | 16:00 |
penguin42 | crhrabal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment for a start | 16:01 |
penguin42 | crhrabal: it depends | 16:01 |
penguin42 | crhrabal: If it's something ubuntu has screwed up then you can fix it in ubuntu, you can also fix it in ubuntu but generally it's preferred to fix it upstream if you can | 16:01 |
crhrabal | Oh, I figured the way to go was fix it in ubuntu then push the change upstream | 16:02 |
penguin42 | crhrabal: it's not a hard rule, however if it's fixed in ubuntu then it means ubuntu has to keep updates if upstream updates and it's a bit messy - if you can get it fixed upstream everyone is happy | 16:03 |
penguin42 | crhrabal: Also if the upstream guys agree your patch is the right way, then the ubuntu guys are quicker to take the patch | 16:04 |
crhrabal | okay thanks | 16:11 |
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pianogmx | hello... I have been using ubuntu for some time and I want to figure out how I can contribute to ubuntu. | 17:46 |
penguin42 | pianogmx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu | 17:47 |
pianogmx | penguin42: i already saw that.... | 17:48 |
penguin42 | pianogmx: OK, are you a programmer? | 17:49 |
pianogmx | i have learned how to program on WIndows with .NET and Java... but I want to learn how to program for ubuntu | 17:49 |
pianogmx | i made a notepad program using C++ and QT a month ago | 17:50 |
penguin42 | you could look at some bugs on Qt apps and see if you can fix them, or look at Qt upstream to see if you can help fix bugs there | 17:51 |
pianogmx | penguin42: would that be considered working outside of the ubuntu project though if i wanted to contribute to ubuntu and be an ubuntu member? | 17:58 |
penguin42 | pianogmx: Well Unity is moving (back) to using Qt - not sure of the details of that, best to ask someone involved - so not sure if you can get involved in that | 18:00 |
penguin42 | pianogmx: But if you fix a bug in a package that Ubuntu makes use of then you help Ubuntu users as well as other users | 18:01 |
pianogmx | okay thanks for the advice ill be back | 18:01 |
pianogmx | penguin42: is there more value in me contributing to the ubuntu / unity flavor than the ubuntu / kde flavor? | 18:11 |
infinity | pianogmx: There's value in your contributing to what you enjoy using and working on. | 18:13 |
pianogmx | ok | 18:15 |
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