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Um_cara_qualquerexcuse me, I'm a huge fan of ubuntu but I need 2 types of OS to work. When I try to install win 8, I have to choose which partition I want to install like this image: http://s.glbimg.com/po/tt/f/original/2011/09/16/windows8-install-hd.jpg  I choose HD with nothing inside, and this message appears: "We could not create a new partition or find an existing one. Check the log files of the installation"00:00
Vivekanandaor "somethingg software centre" ( forget the name)00:00
micahcowansemitones, I don't think such a folder exist.00:00
micahcowanBut most managed, installable apps will go into /usr/bin anyway00:00
VivekanandaI mean I forgot they name of the application00:00
cristinahm micahcowan lot`s of packeges there00:00
semitonesmicahcowan: i'm sur eit does!00:00
micahcowancristina, yes indeed :)00:00
semitonesat least it used to00:00
semitonesit was like ~/bin or something00:00
VivekanandaThe easiest is to click on the software centre and type libre office and then click and install00:01
micahcowancristina, inkscape, that was the other graphical app I was thinking of00:01
cristinayes ...already there..00:01
cristinalet`s go on00:01
cristinamessenger for yahoo ...with webvam00:01
micahcowansemitones, AFAIK, ~/bin isn't automatically added to path if it exists. At least, it didn't used to be. I add mine explicitly00:01
cristinawebcam00:02
semitonesmicahcowan: ok00:02
lucas_cristina : pidgin00:02
cristinahm...no webcam...or ...i`m to .dumm:))00:02
micahcowansemitones, Of course, there's nothing to prevent you from having a .bashrc (or whatnot) that does that sort of thing for you, but AFAICT the one automatically provided doesn't do that.00:03
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cristinahow about kopete?...webcam works?00:03
micahcowan(My startup scripts automatically add anything it finds in /opt/*/bin to the PATH.)00:03
cristinaand mic ofcourese00:04
jribmicahcowan: the default ~/.profile adds ~/bin to PATH if ~/bin exists00:04
cristinaofcourse00:04
semitonesmicahcowan: what is .bashrc?00:04
semitonesmicahcowan: check this out (it's part of ~/.profile)00:04
semitoneshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5606605/00:04
micahcowanjrib, weird to me that it would be in there, but not .bashrc. Well, I guess it sort of makes sense, but also means it wouldn't be updated when you open a new window in your term or something00:05
micahcowansemitones, yeah, just saw it.00:05
semitonesjrib: micahcowan but does it actually work?00:06
jribsemitones: yes00:06
micahcowansemitones, .profile gets run on a login shell, .bashrc gets run on a non-login shell (when you open a terminal window, that usually opens a non-login shell)00:06
jribmicahcowan: has the advantage that the X environment will be aware of the PATH changes.  Nowadays it seems the push is to not even use ~/.profile, but instead use ~/.pam_environment for environment variables (unless you need some scripting logic)00:07
micahcowanjrib, yeah, but then, given that .profile sources .bashrc anyway, if they'd put it in .bashrc it'd be good for both. :)00:08
alien2050weird... I'm trying to scale a window (Blender) on my second monitor but it sticks to the middle of the screen instead of spanning... even though compiz has "snapping windows" disabled...00:08
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cristinahei guys webcam works on kopete?00:08
micahcowanThe [ -d ] doesn't make much sense to me anyway... after all, there's no harm in adding it to the PATH if it doesn't exist, and that way they can make it exist, and take advantage of it without having to log out/back in again00:08
jribmicahcowan: agreed.  I guess there is some negligible advantage to not having more directories than needed in PATH00:09
Schrodinger`Cathey00:09
alien2050"launcher capture mouse" also disabled...00:09
micahcowanGot dinged by AndChat15 again... this time ignored by IP...00:10
Schrodinger`Cati would like to know why somes kernel have linux-image-extra, and some other dont, in this one : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8.9-raring/ there is no linux-image-extra, is it a problem ? thanks00:10
micahcowanSo, anyone know where I should be looking for what scripts or such get triggered when a keyboard is plugged into USB?00:11
veryapeexit00:11
veryapels00:11
veryapeoops, sorry :/00:12
micahcowan:)00:12
aliendude5300sigh... after having a broken install, i wiped my hdd (backing up /home) and reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04. GRUB is still not working :(00:12
cristinamicahcowan,  so on kopete works webcam install or not?00:12
aliendude5300I just get a flashing underscore now00:12
micahcowancristina, I don't know much about kopete, or really about webcam. I think the only cam-related thing I've installed is "cheese" (takes a picture of you ;) )00:13
cristinadok jokes00:13
brainwashSchrodinger`Cat: the linux-image-extra package has been merged back into linux-image , so now we have only 1 file like before00:13
Schrodinger`Catbrainwash: ok thanks :)00:14
Schrodinger`Catbrainwash: linux-image-extra is the proprietary stuff, right ?00:14
micahcowanI think proprietary stuff is mostly individual other module packages?00:15
AndChat15Say up00:15
cristinawhat docky do? micahcowan00:15
micahcowanDon't know. Does it have a description under Synaptic?00:15
micahcowanReally, the Synaptic descriptions, plus Google, are the best ways to find out (if it has an unfortunately ambiguous name, you might want to add "Ubuntu" in the google searches)00:16
micahcowanThere are some tens of thousands of packages, I mostly just know about the ones I use :)00:16
brainwashSchrodinger`Cat: it did contain less common driver modules i think00:16
cristinaok00:17
AndChat15Ubuntu is worse than windows00:17
cristinayes and you are like a frog00:17
aliendude5300sigh... I have no idea how to fix my system :( I should have stayed with Ubuntu 12.10, but 13.04 was faster and shinier :/00:17
Schrodinger`CatAndChat15: please stop you craps in private message, thanks00:17
Schrodinger`Catbrainwash: thanks00:17
levolenthi guys00:18
levolentcan anyone hear me ??00:18
micahcowanSchrodinger`Cat, I'm thinking it's a harassbot, dunno if there's anyone listening.00:18
micahcowanlevolent, read you00:18
levolentnice00:18
aliendude5300Also, AndChat15 is a troll.00:19
levolentI was having connectivity issues earlier00:19
AndChat15levolent: hello00:19
micahcowanSomeone have ops to ban *@247.sub-174-227-64.myvzw.com (AndChat) ? :/00:19
levolentok question. is there a good data recovery software for linux that is free or has trial and online download?00:19
levolentmust work on NTFS and possibly FAT3200:19
semitoneshow can I make init.d run something?00:19
micahcowansemitones, hm, that's a somewhat complex question. Also, in Ubuntu, it's encouraged to use upstart (/etc/init) rather than ssvinit-style scripts (/etc/init.d)00:20
aliendude5300I would really appreciate it if someone could help me fix my Ubuntu install. I can't use my desktop at all now, and I've been working on this for hours.00:20
Vivekanandaso guys no way to recover then ?00:20
micahcowanBut the Ubuntu guides at help.ubuntu.com (I think?) have information on both.00:20
levolentAndChat15 michahcowan sorry to ask for general linux software advice... i know this probably isn't the best place to ask00:20
micahcowanOr maybe it's on the wiki. Proabably both.00:20
AndChat15Everything just works in windows00:20
levolentmaybe i should try #linux?00:20
Vivekanandashoot why do I alwaysuse the shift delete :(00:20
micahcowanlevolent, nothing at all wrong with general linux software advice00:21
Vivekanandawoe to the habit. any advise on recovering is very much waited upon00:21
micahcowanlevolent, and AndChat15 is a troll (possibly bot)00:21
semitonesmicahcowan: ok, I don't really know the difference. Basically, I just want the system to start redshift before I see the login screen.00:21
levolentok good00:21
levolenthow do i mute him nasty npm00:21
micahcowansemitones, for quick-and-dirty, you probably just want to add it to /etc/rc.local00:21
micahcowanMaking sure that it spawns off, and doesn't block until the program exits (add & if necessary)00:21
micahcowanlevolent, depends on your client. See if "/help ignore" gives you information on your client.00:22
levolentok #linux requires registration and I'm not sober enough for that .00:22
levolentso thats good I can ask software advice here :)00:22
micahcowanlevolent, I used /ignore *!*@247.sub-174-227-64.myvzw.com ALL00:23
levolentty00:23
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AndChat15Wow00:23
levolenti am of the type that would rather learn to fish than be giving a fish btw00:23
levolentso was a /whois on him??00:23
levolentthat*00:23
micahcowanyeah00:23
levolentcool00:23
tehsmythehello00:23
micahcowanHe changed nicks/usernames on me at least once, so gotta be IP :)00:23
micahcowanhi tehsmythe00:23
levolenti didn't know about the ALL parameter on that00:23
levolentwhat extra benefit is that?00:24
micahcowanlevolent, might be xchat-specific, I dunno. it also might be the default.00:24
levolento ok i am also using xchat00:24
tehsmytheI am an Ubuntu newbie and have a question about installing 13.04 on a hybrid drive00:24
micahcowanYou can ban for just private messages, or just channel... all blocks for all :)00:24
levolentill enter both commands :)00:24
levolentoh its required00:24
levolentanyways00:24
levolentok question. is there a good data recovery software for linux that is free or has trial and online download?00:25
VivekanandaHello anyone responding to my question. I have not written much on the disk except for scalpel install so please advise on whaat to do ?00:25
levolentmust work on NTFS and possibly FAT3200:25
Vivekanandaif there is nothing then I would like to begin working again on the stuff00:25
micahcowanaliendude5300, to be honest, your problem sounds difficult and baffling. You've just done a normal install, wiping the whole HD, and you end up without a working Grub? :(00:26
levolentalso, does ubuntu by default detect NTFS disc? and where would I go for verbose data on that usb connection?00:26
levolent12.1000:26
micahcowanaliendude5300, I've never had that happen. Not like that, anyway. I've had Windows kill my Grub, and other things like that, but a reinstall always fixed it.00:26
aliendude5300micahcowan, yes. I have spent hours working on this. I've been on IRC all day, and all I want is a working system :(00:26
chaotixhello...  should i get ubuntu 13.10?  why or why not00:26
chaotixi meant 13.0400:26
micahcowanlevolent, it should detect NTFS discs, I think00:27
levolentis there another good channel for ubunt or linux questions that doesn't require registration?00:27
aliendude5300I have Secure Boot disabled since people will probably bring that up00:27
levolentwhats the best program to get data on the connection and disc00:27
macwolf74chaotix, If you want the latest and greatest or if something does not work right currently then maybe you should00:27
macwolf74however you will have to upgrade to 13.10 in the next 9 months to stay supported00:27
micahcowanchaotix, it might be right for you, or you might prefer to get the last long-term support version (which was 12.04 I believe)00:28
levolenti dont know if you guys have smelled gucci intense but omfg...00:28
micahcowanIf you like to have the latest bleeding edge, then getting the latest release can be a good idea.00:28
tehsmytheDoes anyone here know if ubuntu 13.04 will know to install grub on the ssd part of my hybrid drive or will I have to manually manage the partitions to get this to happen? I want to use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for the storage00:28
levolentit seems girls AND guys like it so beware tho...00:28
chaotixim gonna do it!00:28
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AndChat|15Ubuntu is garbadge00:28
macwolf74k00:28
chaotixhow do i report someone for being a troll?00:29
micahcowan12.04 will be supported until a year after 14.04 comes out, I believe, so if you like to just install stuff and leave it alone without constantly upgrading a couple times a year, LTS can be a good choice.00:29
levolentandchat broke my filter :(00:29
levolenti thought i had him ignore00:29
macwolf74chaotix, just ignore him he'll get over it eventually00:29
chaotixi got a pm from a troll who will remain nameless00:29
chaotixok00:29
micahcowanlevolent, mine too. Thought I'd banned that nick. Probably banned the username instead00:29
chaotixim leaving anyways00:29
levolentcan someone please help or direct me I've been here awhile00:29
micahcowanchaotix, no need to remain nameless, AndChat's bugging everyone00:29
macwolf74hope you have fun with ubuntu00:29
levolentif what im asking for doesn't exist how will i know?00:30
macwolf74levolent, what is your question?00:30
* levolent whoa thats kinda deep00:30
chaotixim using 12.10 right now and im enjoying it00:30
levolentum... is about linux software not sure if this is good pl00:30
levolentplace*00:30
micahcowanlevolent, trying AndChat*!*@* this time...00:30
macwolf7413.04 brings many improvements and speed changes00:30
macwolf74over 12.1000:30
chaotixit took me a while to jump on the unity bandwaggon but i am glad that i did00:30
chaotixthanks macwolf7400:30
Guest6760Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.00:30
AndChat|15I rather ran os2 than ubuntu00:30
macwolf74you're welcome =)00:30
macwolf74levolent, go ahead00:31
levolentmacwolf74 does ubuntu by default detect NTFS disc? and where would I go for verbose data on that usb connection?00:31
macwolf74I can probably answer it00:31
tehsmytheDoes anyone here know if ubuntu 13.04 will know to install grub on the ssd part of my hybrid drive or will I have to manually manage the partitions to get this to happen? I want to use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for the storage00:31
micahcowanlevolent, yes, it'll detect the NTFS disc (thought I answered that already)00:31
macwolf74by NTFS disc if you mean partition then it usually does yes00:31
aliendude5300levolent, ubuntu detects and can read/write to NTFS by default00:31
Vivekanandahello00:31
freddofroganyone here have experience at running pangolin lts as a PV domU ?00:31
levolentmicah yes but i asked for the software name too sorry im noob00:31
Vivekanandaanyone able to comment on or advise on my problem of shift delete ?00:31
macwolf74Vivekananda, what about it?00:31
micahcowanlevolent, it should detect it automatically, without any need to install additional software00:32
parsixfanNo matter what variant of ubuntu i try my old laptop wont seem to boot right, it shows the initial boot screen i choose the boot option and then it goes black and you simply hear the fans nonstop. any ideas?00:32
levolentaliendude5300 what program should i use for output analysis00:32
semitonesmicahcowan: one last question -- in my bash script that I put in rc.local, do I need to make sure that the program it invokes runs in the background?00:32
levolentso i know what the computer knows about the disc00:32
micahcowanmacwolf74, Vive did accidental shift-delete00:32
semitonesmicahcowan: by adding && or something -- i don't really understand00:32
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levolent!equivalents Disk Management00:32
ubottulevolent: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:32
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retrobananaCan someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.00:32
dogheadG00:32
levolent!equivalent Disk Management00:32
ubottulevolent: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:32
levolentubottu sorry00:32
ubottuIt's ok, I am only a bot so I cannot stay mad at you. For apologising to humans though, take a read of http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/20/on-apologies/00:32
micahcowansemitones, yeah, that's what I was trying to say. You'd add & at the end... better make sure that the command will do what you want first, so it doesn't trigger an error if you type the command wrong or something.00:33
levolentubottu that actually looked intelligent00:33
ubottulevolent: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:33
levolentk00:33
micahcowanSome commands have options to fork into the background themselves, in which case you can use that option and not &00:33
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levolentbrb grabbing a smoke.. aliendud5300 and macwolf74 and micahcowan00:33
dogheadL00:33
macwolf74levolent, ubuntu has a disk management tool called disk utility by default00:33
dogheadYou00:34
retrobananaCan someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.00:34
macwolf74well now "Disks"00:34
levolentwhat is the terminal command to summon it00:34
retrobananaWill anybody help me!!?00:34
micahcowanlevolent, that one's a graphical one, I believe, found in your application menus. Similar terminal program might be parted00:34
macwolf74gnome-disks levolent00:34
micahcowanretrobanana, what's "Pure Data"?00:34
micahcowan(and, have patience :) )00:34
macwolf74it is GUI like micahcowan said though00:34
dogheadNa00:35
semitonesmicahcowan: this is what I have so far :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606684/00:35
retrobananaIt's a graphical audio programming language.00:35
parsixfanany help as to way ubuntu wont display anything on trying to install00:36
micahcowanretrobanana, sounds fun. I'll have to find it. But, if it's logging you completely out, it sounds like it might be a video driver problem or something like that.00:36
dogheadmacwolf74: puredata is what happens when you poop00:36
macwolf74mmk00:36
micahcowanI.e., your graphical session is getting killed, so everything under it goes too.00:36
retrobananaHmmm...that could be it00:36
Vivekanandamacwolf74: just if I can recover any file I deleted like 10 mins ago with shift delete00:37
micahcowanI don't know what to suggest there... if you're using "additional (restricted) drivers", then you might consider disabling that... or if you're not, and there's one available, you might consider enabling it :)00:37
Vivekanandait was a .sql file00:37
macwolf74I don't know any way to recover a pernamently deleted file, sorry00:37
Vivekananda:( okay then I guess I will go back to writing it out again00:38
micahcowanVivekananda, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery00:38
micahcowanhope that helps00:38
aliendude5300sigh... I'm reinstalling Ubuntu again in hopes that the past two installations of 13.04 that failed were flukes. wish me luck :/00:38
dogheadGet eid o00:38
macwolf74aliendude5300, maybe the ISO image is corrupted?00:38
micahcowanaliendude5300, I suppose you're on the live CD now?00:38
wilee-nileealiendude5300, YOu sum the ISO?00:39
dogheadDo not use ubuntu00:39
micahcowanISO image, or possibly the HDD (hope not)00:39
aliendude5300I checked the integrity of the ISO. :/00:39
aliendude5300ISO is fine00:39
retrobananaThanks!00:39
levolentback00:39
levolentdoghead is trolling me :( will /ignore doghead work?00:39
helois update-manager -d a viable way to upgrade from quantal?00:39
aliendude5300the installs look like they worked, but it didn't boot either time. This is all on a PC where 12.10 worked flawlessly00:40
macwolf74levolent, just ignore it mentally I'd say, they don't stick around long afaik00:40
levolentalso, does freenode have a "lobby" or index help desk? I know there's a command but it outputs long and hard to navigate00:40
helo#defocus00:40
wilee-nileehelo, Set the software sotces to all upgrades and wait till the servers are not overwhelmed.00:40
wilee-nileesources*00:40
micahcowanlevolent, doghead is still AndChat, so I'm still failing at the ignores. Now trying ~AndChat*!*@* ALL ... not that they can't get around that, probably, but so far the username's always AndChat00:41
heloi downloaded the iso, but can't get it to boot from usb either via dd or unetbootin00:41
macwolf74you can just open the software updater and it should appear if everything is updated00:41
harrisbattery working now00:41
micahcowanDoes dd of ISO to usb work now? didn't used to, AFAIK (Debian's does).00:41
levolentok did someone ever ansewr me? I scrolled up but dont see red text00:41
micahcowanI've only used the GUI "Make Startup Disk" thingy to do the USB thing00:42
heloi prefer clean installs, but if the iso does not will it, so be it!00:42
wilee-nileehelo, You know the boot menu outside the bios?00:42
adrenohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGKDmuAIKQ&list=PL8BAFE3208F6CD87200:42
helomicahcowan: i think it "used to" ;)00:42
helodunno, my bios is kind of sketchy when it comes to upgrades00:42
levolentI am a sad panda right now :(00:42
dogheadI have swamp land to sell00:42
heloerr "when it comes to usb booting"00:42
micahcowangotcha00:42
micahcowanlevolent, I don't know much about getting data on USB connections. Not sure what level of data you're wanting, though.00:43
levolentis there a freenode or other irc channel for non-emergency firstaid?00:43
macwolf74answered you on the disks question levolent? the command is gnome-disks for the GUI tool00:43
wilee-nileehelo, outside the bios00:43
macwolf74<helo> #defocus00:43
n47781how can I access an external USB harddisk?  alternatively, any way to access a Windows' shared folder to drag over ( / copy & paste) files from that?00:43
micahcowanlevolent, I mean, dmesg will tell you what got connected to your computer, if that's the sort of thing you need00:43
helo#defocus is the freenode lobby, afaik00:43
harrishow do i turn off the power saving like the file my computer keeps poping and thats what i had to do before00:43
aliendude5300yes! It booted this time! Success! :D 4 hours of work fixing my Ubuntu paid off! I had to manually create a 100MB reserved bios boot area on my ssd for it to boot! :)00:44
levolentis there a good search engine for irc chat of all network? google seems lacking imo00:44
heloservers don't seem overwhelmed, btw... pulling 1MB/s00:44
* helo frowns as it drops to 400KB/s00:44
macwolf74what IRC client are you using levolent?00:45
levolentyou can't put a bandaid in your mouth right? so what if you bite the everloving @$% out of your lip00:45
levolentxchat00:45
helolevolent: freenode is all you need if you're sticking to linuxland... netsplit.de is a good index00:45
levolentmacwolf74 xchat00:45
levolentnot sticking to linuxland00:45
macwolf74ah00:45
levolentits about non-emergency first aid question00:45
macwolf74server > list of channels can give you a list of channels00:46
harriswilee-nilee,00:46
macwolf74also we keep saying #defocus levolent00:46
harrisyou helped me with it00:46
macwolf74lol00:46
levolentty macwolf7400:46
levolentwere you born in 74 btw?00:46
macwolf74nah00:46
macwolf74lol00:46
levolenti bet you get asked that all the time00:46
levolenthow do i switch channel without mouse in xchat?00:47
levolentctrl+tab !equivalen00:47
levolentctrl+tab !equivalent00:47
harris /join channel00:47
levolent=\00:47
levolentdid that alredy00:47
macwolf74I do00:47
clfs /join ubuntu-cn00:48
levolentharris /join #ubuntu  when im already in it from another channel doesn't switch focus =\00:48
levolentdoes anyone have questions?00:49
aliendude5300ok, Ubuntu 13.04 is now running on my system, but it keeps freezing and lagging to the point where I have to reboot it manually. I'm getting errors from noveau saying GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon00:49
aliendude5300and then a black screen00:49
harrislevolent, yes00:50
levolentharris yes what ... how do switch channel with keyboard? xchat00:51
levolent!equivalent CTRL+TAB00:51
levolent!equivalents CTRL+TAB00:51
levolentubottu why u no love me anymore?00:51
ubottulevolent: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:51
levolent!equivalents00:52
ubottuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot00:52
levolenthow do switch channel with keyboard? xchat00:53
levolentCTRL+TAB equivalent00:53
micahcowanlevolent, I was looking under Settings->Advanced->Keyboard Shortcuts00:53
micahcowanbut there doesn't seem to be such a thing00:53
goonfacelevolent: usw00:53
micahcowanThere doesn't even seem to be a command to assign to a keystroke for such a thing :/00:54
goonfacelevolent: hey00:54
micahcowanaliendude5300, crap, I dunno, but sounds like maybe it's choosing bad graphics drivers for your Xorg or something...00:54
goonfaceUse windows00:55
micahcowanalien2050, might be able to force it to use a more "safe-mode" style one, but it's been ages since I've had to muck with Xorg, and it was all manual config back then, so I'd be little help now.00:55
aliendude5300Sigh... I'm hating 13.04 already. Should have stayed with 12.10... at least it worked00:56
micahcowanSo, you had zero problems with 12.10?00:56
goonfaceUbuntu craptastic00:56
levolentgoonface usw?00:56
micahcowanYou might consider installing 12.10, and possibly doing the upgrade from there (or not)00:56
heloaliendude5300: when i'm having graphics issues that lead to an unusable system, i press "e" in grub, remove "quiet", change "splash" to "nosplash", and add "single"00:56
helothen it will boot to a root prompt that you can use to unsilly things00:57
helojust had to do that when my kernel was upgraded since i'm using the binary amd drivers00:57
goonfacealiendude5300: dont listen to these nerds. Telk me whats wrong00:57
aliendude5300my system is freezing and locking up with noveau errors after a few seconds after booting00:58
helowell, if you're able to boot, you don't need single mode00:58
helosorry, wasn't reading00:59
goonfacealiendude5300: are u using 32 or 64 bit00:59
aliendude5300I'm getting errors from noveau saying GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon followed by a blank screen. I then have to do a hard reboot00:59
aliendude530064-bit00:59
heloyou could try fglrx, or try installing the amd drivers from their website00:59
helobut that causes problems of its own00:59
goonfacealiendude5300: you have nvidia00:59
aliendude5300fglrx is ati isn't it? I have a geforce card in my desktop01:00
helooh geforce 0_o01:00
micahcowanaliendude5300, but are you still able to get a basic console on that blank screen, by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1?01:00
aliendude5300goonface: yes. it's a geforce gtx 58001:00
* helo realizes he should stop01:00
micahcowanYou'll need that much at least to be able to potentially fix X01:00
aliendude5300micahcowan: I can before it freezes up, or if i boot into recovery mode01:00
aliendude5300after it freezes up, i can't do much except reboot01:00
goonfacealiendude5300: are you using live disk or installed01:01
aliendude5300goonface: installed01:01
semitonesmicahcowan: I tested running the rc.local on its own, and it does what I want and exits. Is it good to go now?01:01
goonfacealiendude5300: at grub do you know how to set NOMODESET01:02
micahcowanSeems to be :)01:02
Anti-SleepHello.01:02
micahcowanJust remember what you added there, in case you ever reinstall and have to remember :)01:03
micahcowanhi anti01:03
semitonesmicahcowan: great -- I just wanted to make sure there's not something else I need to do01:03
Anti-SleepGreetings.01:03
semitonesmicahcowan: there should be some kind of registry that logs changes users make to anything outside of /home01:03
aliendude5300goonface: I could figure that out. don't you just edit the boot command or something? not sure where to put nomodeset though01:03
goonfacealiendude5300: boot to grub and there is a Function key to set options01:05
levolentsup guys?01:05
goonfacealiendude5300: i think its F6 then select NOMODESET01:06
aliendude5300there are no function keys listed on the grub screen, and pressing f6 does nothing01:07
aliendude5300i can get to recovery mode if that would be helpful01:07
micahcowansemitones, well, in the meantime, I keep my /etc as a git repository, so I have a history of changes (on my VPS, not my main desktop; I don't have to change /etc too often on my desktop)01:07
levolenthow do you force a refresh of disks in gnome-disks?01:08
wilee-nileealiendude5300, you need nomodeset at the grub menu once?01:08
semitonesmicahcowan: cool, i'll remember that01:08
micahcowandunno, I'm using xfce4, not gnome01:08
CyberaiI upgraded to 13.04 recently and I cannot set a desktop wallpaper in the Ubuntu Desktop. If I switch to Gnome3 it works fine. Can anyone help?01:08
aliendude5300i'm not really sure what nomodeset does... noveau is throwing up errors, and my system is crashing :/01:09
aliendude5300goonface told me to set nomodeset in GRUB so I'm going to try that01:09
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | check the link.01:09
ubottucheck the link.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:09
HerrKlemmyHey everybody - how to use your onboard video card to display a third desktop on a third monitor ?01:09
goonfacealiendude5300: can you press e while in grib01:10
wilee-nileealiendude5300, ^^^^^01:10
goonfaceGrub01:10
aliendude5300my system boots and works for about 25 seconds then crashes.01:10
aliendude5300sure. i did that and I'm at a text editor of sorts in grub with the Ubuntu boot commands in it01:11
goonfacealiendude5300: press e in grub01:11
aliendude5300I did that.. ^^01:11
HerrKlemmyHelp : How to use your onboard video card to set up a third monitor ?01:12
goonfacealiendude5300: you should be in edit mode.01:12
aliendude5300yes. i am01:12
goonfacealiendude5300: scroll to the word QUEI01:13
goonfaceQUEIT01:13
aliendude5300found it01:13
HerrKlemmyHelp : How to use your onboard video card to set up a third monitor ?01:14
betraydHerrKlemmy: are your other 2 monitors set01:14
HerrKlemmybetrayd: I have two monitors working, one over VGA the other over an DVI to VGA adapter.01:15
levolentwhy is goonface acting normal in here trying to be helpful? he is the andchat troll01:15
goonfacealiendude5300: leave space and type NOMODESET then cntrl-x01:15
betraydHerrKlemmy: using what grafix card, which driver01:15
aliendude5300alright, I'm at a desktop now. (solid state drive for the win)01:16
aliendude5300doesn't seem to be freezing yet01:16
aliendude5300no, it seems to be working. ]01:16
HerrKlemmybetrayd: A  ATI RV516 XT Radeon X1600 Series with the drivers installed with the OS-installation01:17
HerrKlemmybetrayd: no other works for me...01:17
goonfacealiendude5300: you have to google how to make it permanent in GRUB.01:17
aliendude5300would it be a good idea to install the nvidia drivers since it seems to be a driver issue?01:18
thorbyHi01:19
betraydHerrKlemmy: i am going out on a limb here, is there an xorg.conf for your setuyp in /etc/X1101:19
HerrKlemmynope01:20
HerrKlemmybetrayd: nope01:20
aliendude5300thanks for helping me :) I think I'm going to make nomodeset permanent and try to get the proprietary drivers up and running so I can use the full capabilities of my GPU01:20
chrisdoneanybody here got ubuntu to work in dual boot on the retina macbook pro? whatever i seem to try, refit/refind,grub, it always seems to say "missing operating system" when trying to boot linux01:20
goonfacealiendude5300: never tried Ubuntu. It seems you already have Nvidia installed. In terminal type NVIDIA-SETTINGS01:20
mibitzidoes skype work with any nvidia driver on amd64?01:20
aliendude5300nvidia-settings: command not found01:21
chrisdonei'm gonna have to send it back to apple if i can't get ubuntu to even boot =/01:22
betraydHerrKlemmy: make sure your system allows the use of both simultaneously, i've known systems that allowd a graphics card to handle displays but disable onboard, so doublecheck the BIOS settings01:22
betraydHerrKlemmy: cycle/pageup/down thru the choices01:23
goonfacealiendude5300: ubuntu i think has easy way to install nvidia. When it installs Nvidia it should fix the NOMODESET issue.01:23
chrisdonepfft, i'm gonna try installing ubuntu OVER os x. if it fails to boot then, i'll have to send it back and get a refund01:24
HerrKlemmybetrayd: ok, thx, thaths a helpful information - I'll do so, but now i have to go to sleep - thx for your help01:24
aliendude5300goonface: alright, thanks. I'll try to find a way to install nvidia in ubuntu. I think I should be able to do that with a simple apt-get command now that I have my system up and running01:24
betraydgnite HerrKlemmy font awnt you to waste your time01:24
aliendude5300does anyone know the name of the proprietary nvidia driver package?01:24
betrayddon't want01:24
betraydchrisdone: better to troubleshoot that 'no OS found'01:25
HerrKlemmybetrayd: hopefully there is somebody  online, who can help me, when i got my information... but my bed cries for me :)01:25
betraydthats ok HerrKlemmy everything starts  with BIOS beingOK with it01:26
aliendude5300after a quick google search, i'm going to install nvidia-current. that should work01:26
UserAttackRunning Xubuntu.. How come my battery display is empty until I plug in then out?01:26
goonfacealiendude5300: try system+settings look for hardware drivers01:26
goonfacealiendude5300: i think ubuntu idiot prof01:27
chrisdonebetrayd: well the OS is on there. the ubuntu installer created the partition and a swap. googling the error message doesn't give me anything i understand01:28
betraydinstalled from a stick?01:28
chrisdoneyeah01:28
betraydchrisdone: ^01:28
goonfaceProofed it. System-settings should be hardware driverd01:28
betraydmake sure the ctick isnt in there when you boot01:28
betraydstick* chrisdone ^01:28
chrisdoneit's not01:28
betraydchrisdone: you had the grub install to the hdd, what awas the name fo the drive01:29
chrisdonebetrayd: swap was /dev/sda5 and the ext4 was /dev/sda601:30
betraydchrisdone: and you designated what for grub destination?01:30
goonfacealiendude5300: what version of Ubuntu you using01:31
aliendude530013.0401:31
betraydchrisdone: usually people say sda1 when grub can only accept sda01:31
chrisdonebetrayd: i don't know what that means. the ubuntu installer didn't ask me about grub destination01:31
betraydwell thats usually the last step01:31
chrisdonebetrayd: how do i find out that?01:31
chrisdonehmm yeah01:31
chrisdonein the guides they all say "and by the way tell it to install grub for you"01:32
chrisdoneexcept this ubuntu 13.04 just says "install finished" and asks me to reboot01:32
betraydchrisdone: not that you skipped the part, it wasn't even offered?01:32
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chrisdonei looked for it, it's supposed to be an "advanced" button before the final step, but nothing appeared01:33
betraydhmmm, this is a mac, so i can't be 100% sure01:33
chrisdonei even did the custom way so i have to choose the partitions and such01:33
betraydchrisdone: if you go through the install is there a way for you to remain online01:34
chrisdoneyeah i have two macbooks. the macbookpro 5,5 works perfectly with ubuntu, i'm using that now to talk to you01:34
chrisdonei have the installer open presently on the retina01:34
chrisdone"try  ubuntu" or "install ubuntu", it asks01:34
betraydbut before you jump into that, maybe a grub updatre might set things rightr01:35
aliendude5300goonface: Installing the nvidia-current package that I found via a Google search seems to have worked. After rebooting, my system isn't crashing. :)01:35
droffelDoes anyone know of something I could install to allow for quick-reply to messages in Empathy within the xMessage notification box?01:35
goonfacealiendude5300: 12.10 had a problem installing Nvidia. Kernel build was not installed. Bug never fixed01:35
chrisdonebetrayd: so i did attempt a grub-update based on some instructions to chroot to the /dev/sda6 partition with mounts, but it seemed to effect no change01:35
chrisdonebetrayd: is that what you mean?01:35
betraydchrisdone: yeah01:36
chrisdoneif i open gparted, how do i know that grub is setup properly?01:36
Morph4mechrisdone :black screen ? for try or install ubuntu ?01:36
betraydon a mac01:36
goonfacealiendude5300: okay.01:36
betraydchrisdone: give Morph4me the info01:36
betrayd'no os' etc01:37
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chrisdoneMorph4me: try/install ubuntu works fine, the GUI opens. i run through the installer and it says 'finished' and i reboot, but then when i choose to run it with the macbook pro bootloader, it says 'Missing operating system'01:37
dank101how laggy is tf2 on 13.04 without graphics drivers01:37
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Morph4mechrisdone: but the installer is black screen and not pruple at the begining right?01:38
chrisdoneMorph4me: i mean, the mbp gives me a choice between 'os x/os x backup/windows', but i have no windows, it calls linux windows. i also tried efit/efind which did the same thing01:39
dank101anyone?01:39
chrisdoneMorph4me: the installer shows the normal ubuntu desktop background with the dialog box... what do you mean black or purple?01:39
betraydchrisdone: he's referring to a different problem i think01:40
goonfacedank101: slow01:40
betraydreported01:40
Morph4mewhere it says  "try or install" that screen purple or black ?01:40
dank101goonface, FUUUUUUUU01:40
chrisdoneMorph4me: neither01:40
betraydchrisdone: gparted won't show you where grub is, it can show you current partitions and put a 'bootable' flag01:41
ArraritaHello, is there a specific topic here or can I describe my problem here?01:41
goonfacedank101: generic drivers are slow.01:41
chrisdonebetrayd: what makes the boot system decide whether an OS is "missing" or not? the bootable flag?01:42
dank101goonface, will installing it from the Ubuntu repos break unity/OpenGL01:42
betraydchrisdone: afaik, the bootable flag is only recognized by linux...01:43
tarviddnsmasq01:43
kostkon_!ask | Arrarita01:43
ubottuArrarita: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:43
tarviddnsmasq!01:43
chrisdoneblargh, i shouldn't have ordered this ;_;01:43
ArraritaI have been having a major problem since upgrading to 12.10.  My screen fades in and out and the pages scroll uncontrollably.  No one seems to be able to help.01:43
goonfacedank101: only ubuntu 12.10 had driver instal issues01:44
betraydchrisdone: all you need is a cold one maybe01:44
ArraritaI upgraded to 13.04 and it's the same thing.01:44
dank101goonface, strange, happen to me on 12.0401:44
chrisdonebetrayd: a what?01:44
ArraritaWhen the screen fades it freezes and I have to force quit and restart01:44
betraydchrisdone: nvm01:45
betraydnot important01:45
ArraritaPlease bear with me, I am new to this.01:45
Morph4mechrisdone: have you looked at this > http://linuxmacbookproretina.blogspot.ca/2012/12/ubuntu-1304-daily-build-macbook-pro.html01:46
tarvidArrarita, is your mouse pointer stable?01:47
ArraritaYes my mouse is stable01:47
tarvidArrarita, Laptop with a touch pad?01:48
Arraritadesktop01:48
Arraritathe problem is so bad, I purchased a Mac laptop just so that I could do my work.01:48
tarvidArrarita, Do you have a spare keyboard?01:48
Arraritayes and a spare mouse01:49
tarvidHave you tried the spare keyboard?01:49
caleb__My smtp/postfix is sending out tons of spam and I have tried so many things to fix it. Any help?01:49
ArraritaNo because they work fine on the laptop01:49
Arraritawould the keyboard and mouse cause my screen to constantly freeze and fade in and out?01:50
caleb__would someone atleast point me in the right direction for help01:50
tarvidThey could stream in interrupts01:50
Arraritawhat if I use the USB ports01:51
chrisdoneMorph4me: i saw other guides like it -- it says to copy /boot/vmlinuz* from the live cd. but such a file doesn't exist in my /boot01:51
chrisdoneMorph4me: neither does the /boot/initrd*01:51
tarvidcaleb__, postfix wouldn't do that by itself, you are hacked01:51
aliendude5300Hey, so I just noticed that the Ubuntu installer didn't notice my Windows 8 partition, and there is no entry in the GRUB  menu despite it existing on my disk and me being able to access the files. How can I make it show up in GRUB so that I  can boot to Windows 8?01:51
Morph4mek01:52
Gumby`caleb__: first start to check if you are an open relay01:52
betraydchrisdone: be careful what the dates are on those helpful guides01:52
Gumby`tarvid: jumping to "hacked" is quite an aggressive statement. he may simply be an open relay01:52
tarvidGood point Gumby` but postfix is not open by default01:52
Gumby`tarvid: it doesnt send spam by default (as you pointed out) either ;)01:52
chrisdoneMorph4me: maybe it means i should mount the / on the resulting ext4 ubuntu system and take the files from there? i'll re-install again and see if they're there01:53
aliendude5300Running Ubuntu 13.04 on a dual-boot installation with a Windows 8 partition present, by the way.01:53
tarvidIf he is sending spam he should shut down postfix and inspect the queue01:53
Gumby`caleb__: also, make sure it isnt your mail client or pc it resides on.  if something within your allowed relay has a virus it could be that also01:54
Gumby`tarvid: inded he should01:54
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Gumby`I'd help more but I am far from a postfix guru01:55
uroyanmee u.01:55
Morph4mechrisdone: Macs don't make  it easy do they ? and betrayed, good point ...noted ;)01:56
Gumby`although I must say, for someone who desperately needs help, it seems odd that they'd ask a Q and then not pay attention for responses01:56
tophalf01What do you guys think about KDE?01:58
ArraritaResponses?01:58
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tophalf01I use GNOME right now, but I think I might switch.01:58
LinDolwhy?01:59
LinDolwhat did you have problem? :)02:00
wdonkeyanyone feel like helping me out with some cairo-dock setting problem ?02:01
wdonkeyi know its of a deconcerting futility when compared to the war raging in the world or the hunger, but if anyone knowledgeable enough has a minute or two to spare..02:02
ArraritaWould my keyboard and mouse cause my computer to constantly freeze and scroll uncontrollably?02:02
caleb__I should shut down postfix and inspect the queu?02:02
caleb__What am I looking for? I am looking at the logs and they are humming02:03
caleb__this is regarding the email spam issue02:03
hachreArrarita: no02:03
dfreyI'm having problems with audio since "upgrading" to 13.04.  I still see my audio devices in lspci, but when I click "sound settings" under the volume icon, only one output is available (should be 2) and on the one output, there is only a single "profile" listed in the drop-down menu (there should be many)02:03
tarvidcaleb__, service postfix stop02:04
hachreArrarita: do you have nvidia graphics?02:04
ArraritaI think so02:04
hachreArrarita: did you install the nvidia binary driver?02:04
ArraritaNo I did not.  I have no clue as to what that is or that I needed to do that.02:04
dfreyFurthermore, running alsamixer now says "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory"02:05
hachreArrarita: it depends on what card you have specifically, but that symptom you have is something I have as well with the default driver02:05
caleb__travid is there anyway we can get on a another channel02:05
wdonkeydfrey:  do you have sound ?02:05
hachreArrarita: go into the unity menu and type software, then select software & updates02:05
Arraritaok, so how do I install it?02:05
caleb__I really want this to get fixed. the mail log exceeds around 2 gig every day02:05
hachreArrarita: on the last tab of the window that comes up you have a few choices for alternative graphics drivers02:05
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tarvidcaleb__, you can make a channel and invite me02:06
hachreArrarita: I recommend nvidia-313-updates - it should be in that list02:06
Arraritaok I am confused, this is new to me.02:06
ArraritaI need to get to the Unity menu02:06
Arraritalet me write this down02:06
hachreArrarita: arent you next to that computer?02:06
Arraritayes I am02:07
hachreArrarita: well so just do it ;D02:07
Arraritaeasy for you02:07
caleb__I have no idea how. I havn't been on IRC since I was 15 lol do you have skype?02:07
aliendude5300anyone have any luck getting skype to work at all in Ubunut 13.04?02:07
aliendude5300Ubuntu*02:07
dfreywdonkey: Only through the "Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output" listed in sound settings.  It's an optical cable that goes from my soundcard to my receiver.  This soundcard used to show many output options and I can no longer see the HDMI audio option of my video card02:08
ArraritaI don't know what the Unity menu is02:08
caleb__If you don't have skype I am sure I can figure it out02:08
tarvidcaleb__, gmail chat tarvid@ls.net02:08
hachreArrarita: the first button on that bar on the left02:08
Arraritaok let me try that02:08
hachreArrarita: with the ubuntu logo and the swirl02:08
dank101is unity in 13.04 using Qt?02:09
hachredank101: as far as I know mostly not02:09
hachredank101: Qt is coming with unity-next02:10
dank101hachre, WHY IS IT SO MUCH FASTER? LOL!02:10
caleb__just sent invite02:10
dank101it's butter02:10
hachrehehe :)02:10
dank101it was a ROCK in 12.1002:10
hachreI guess they made some improvements ;D02:10
ArraritaThank you for your help and your patience, it's installing now.02:11
DaemonicApathyI have noticed a distinct increase in performance speed after my update from final beta to official release. It's amazing.02:11
dank101and does nvidia drivers from the settings break unity, like in 12.10, and break OpenGL in all versions02:11
aliendude5300when i run skype after installing it from skype.com on my 64-bit Ubuntu installation, I get a segmentation fault, and skype closes02:11
hachreArrarita: np :)02:11
DaemonicApathyaliendude5300: Which version?02:11
caleb__I sent you an invite and a email. thanks travid02:12
DaemonicApathyOf Ubuntu, that is. 13.04, or earlier?02:12
dank101anyone?02:12
hachredank101: no02:13
hachredank101: if you install the nivida drivers that are in the software & updates menu those are fine02:13
dank101hache OH MY GOD02:13
dank101WHAT DID CONONICAL DO TO MAKE 13.04 SO MUCH BETTER?02:14
hachredidnt sleep 6 months02:14
hachre:D02:14
KyeRusselldat capslock you got there is pretty intense02:14
dank101I'm sooooooooo happy!02:14
dank101Now i can play half-life and tf2!02:15
FearNotMan I have a weird problem, and I'm hoping you guys can help me.  When I installed, I selected the full disk encryption with LVM option.  Everything worked great for a while.  Now for some reason when I boot up I am not asked for a key to decrypt the encrypted portion, but rather Gnome tries to start up and then displays the screen in the picture on this question:02:15
hachreFearNotMan: link missing02:16
ArraritaOK, it has finishing installing.  I hope this works.  Thank you again and have a good night.02:16
caleb__tarvid you there?02:16
hachreArrarita: night :)02:16
FearNotManhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-suspected-grub-kernel-config-file-messed-up02:16
FearNotManHere's a paste output from boot-repair02:16
FearNotManhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5606802/02:16
aliendude530013.0402:17
dank101i wish i could pay cononical02:18
dank101but im broke02:18
tarvidcaleb__, I'm here, just preoccuped02:18
hachreFearNotMan: someone who has experience with luks should be able to help you with that02:18
FearNotManhachre:  Is there someone here that has experience with luks?02:19
hachreFearNotMan: you'll have to wait and see... I don't sadly02:20
wilee-nileeFearNotMan, You are missing grub boot files and a fstab in your install.02:20
FearNotManhachre:  No problem.  Thanks for you help!02:20
FearNotManwilee-nilee:  Any idea how it happened, or how to fix it?02:21
BiafraOkay, turns out the issue with the clean install crashing was due to checking the box to install the Fluendo codecs02:22
Biafrathat's odd02:22
wilee-nileeFearNotMan, Not sure the cause, personally I would chroot to the install from a live media and purge and reinstall grub, the bootrepair tool might have a purge and reinstall option but I never use it so don't know.02:22
alien2050anyone knows how to rescale an application in dual screen? Its kinda stuck in the middle of the two displays and cannot be expanded for some reason... I want the app to be 3000x1080 instead of 1900x1080.... all my windows (gnome) have this behavior02:24
betraydthe app might think 1900x1080 is the max02:24
betraydalien2050: not twinview on nvidia?02:25
alien2050yes, twinview on nvidia02:26
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ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »02:26
Freel0aderhi friends!02:26
Freel0aderhttps://launchpad.net/gvoice-notifier02:26
Freel0aderany way to use that with gnome-shell, so i can use with fedora?02:26
dank101ask on #fedora02:27
alien2050it kind of work if I put the window in the middle of the two screens and then resize it, BUT its kinda weird behavior sometimes when resizing it snaps back to only one monitor02:27
Freel0aderno02:27
Freel0aderit's an ubuntu program02:27
dank101Freel0ader, IT WORKS MULTI-LINUX02:27
betraydalien2050: are you able to get to nvidia X server settings02:27
Freel0aderdank101, IM WONDERING IF YOU CAN USE IT WITH GNOME-SHELL02:28
dank101Freel0ader: YES!02:28
alien2050I think there's some application that manages the screen that manages that, but I can't find it...02:28
alien2050betrayd: yes I'm in nvidia-settings02:28
dank101Freel0ader, now treat people like people02:28
alien2050betrayd: you think the option in there somewhere?02:28
dank101i gave honest advice and you yelled at me02:28
betraydalien2050: save your current xorg.conf02:29
Freel0aderdank101, you yelled at me, bro02:29
dank101Freel0ader, so it popped out02:29
betraydalien2050: you might have to disable twinview and go for BigDesktop02:29
Freel0aderi just wish i could find a gnome version of this program02:29
* dank101 facepalms 02:29
Freel0aderthat shows google voice sms02:29
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Freel0aderdank101, don't taze me, bro02:30
betraydlol02:30
dank101Freel0ader, the notifactions on unity are gnome are =02:30
Freel0aderoh02:30
Freel0aderi mean, would it appear as a shell applet?02:30
alien2050betrayd: I see... but it looks like it's another application that manages the windows that does that, for example when I resize I see the window shade with a different color02:30
dank101yes02:30
Freel0aderWELL THEN02:30
Freel0aderi stand CORRECTED02:30
dank101no wonder 90% of gnome apps are on ubuntu02:30
dank101i looked up system in unity02:31
Freel0aderlet's see if i can even compile it02:31
dank101i saw a windows box02:31
dank101i am offended02:31
Freel0aderdank101, hugs?02:32
FearNotManwilee-nilee: I tried reinstalling grub using the boot-repair tool, but it made no difference.  I found the fstab in the /etc but that is part of the encrypted partition, so I would think the problem must be in /boot somewhere since that is the only thing that is unencrypted at startup time02:32
dank101Freel0ader, i need some02:32
FearNotManwilee-nilee: I am running a Live CD with the disk mounted and unencrypted02:33
ArraritaHello again, I am still having the problem with my screen freezing and pages scrolling.  Is there something else I can do?02:33
betraydalien2050: some things you might be able to run in 'advanced mode' in nvidia X server settings02:33
dank101Freel0ader, i forgot to mention, it will compile as a deb02:33
Freel0aderbzr branch lp:gvoice-notifier doing this now02:33
wilee-nileeFearNotMan, Could be, I have not seen if there grub files are not detectable, however you are missing grub files.02:33
dank101use alien to covert it to a RPM02:33
hachreArrarita: out of ideas then, sorry02:34
Freel0aderi wonder if development is dead02:34
ArraritaWould another of those drivers work?02:34
Freel0aderhow do i compile it after i bzr?02:34
hachreArrarita: I doubt it02:34
Freel0aderoh, just like svn02:34
hachreArrarita: if it behaves the same way it wasnt the driver02:34
FearNotManwilee-nilee: Do you know which grub files are missing? Is that in the report?02:34
hachreArrarita: is it a laptop?02:34
betraydArrarita: keyboard and mouse both USB?02:34
Freel0adercrap!02:35
ArraritaNo, my desktop02:35
Arraritanot using USB02:35
ArraritaI hate to give up Ubuntu, but with every update things get worse02:35
dank101Freel0ader, mind if i make this easier for you02:35
Arraritaand I am not savy enough to figure things out.02:36
Freel0aderyay02:36
alien2050betrayd: yeah I didn't think of that, but it doesn't change anything for now... even in different mode; BUT I did manage to find that compiz is loaded, so it must be an option in ccsm somewhere02:36
ArraritaI can't do my work02:36
wilee-nileeFearNotMan, This is what mine shows /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img02:36
Freel0aderImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.auto - drat02:36
hachreArrarita: does it happen constantly or only when you are in a browser?02:36
heroandtn3Hello, I'm using GNOME Shell 3.6.3 on Ubuntu 13.04 and has an issue with GNOME Shell memory leak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnEens9Byeg02:37
betraydalien2050: i went with bigDesktop so the twin displays acted as 1 large side of a cube02:37
heroandtn3I have this issue since Ubuntu 12.10 and this has not been fixed in Ubuntu 13.0402:37
ArraritaWhen I have a browser open, it affects everything, including word documents02:37
heroandtn3what I should do to fix this?02:37
hachreArrarita: and when you close the browser it stops?02:38
trismFreel0ader: python-distutils-extra02:38
Arraritayes02:38
hachreArrarita: firefox or chrome?02:38
FearNotManwilee-nilee: Thank you very much for your help.  I am missing the core.img02:38
alien2050betrayd: Do you mean "seperate X screen" ? or is there a BigDesktop mode? I've got the latest 330.xx installed02:38
ArraritaFirefox02:38
alien2050betrayd: I don't see a BigDesktop option02:38
hachreArrarita: its the accelerated rendering of the browser, so its a graphics issue after all... weird that the driver didnt fix it...02:38
wilee-nileeFearNotMan, the sda5 wont show what is there so it is kinda hard to really tell.02:38
hachreArrarita: can you go to the unity menu again and type nvidia-settings02:38
betraydalien2050: am not sure if you'll see it when Twinview is enabled02:38
OerHeks!bug | heroandtn302:39
ubottuheroandtn3: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:39
Arraritaok02:39
hachreArrarita: there is a section on the left called Thermal Settings02:39
betraydyou might have to search wikis for nvidia multimonitor compiz, et02:39
hachreArrarita: it tells you the temperature of the graphics card, what is it?02:39
betrayd etc*02:39
Freel0aderpoopie02:40
Freel0aderImportError: No module named indicate02:40
ArraritaI can't find a thermal setting, but I do have an indicator on my box and the CPU says 3302:40
hachreArrarita: yeah but we need the graphics card02:40
alien2050betrayd: ATI's Big Desktop is similar to NVIDIA's TwinView under Linux... so I guess bigDesktop on radeon is the equivalent of twinview on nvidia02:41
Arraritawould that be it?02:41
heroandtn3OerHeks: thanks, I will try02:41
hachreArrarita: no thats the processor02:41
Arraritaok, I opened the menu and I typed Nvidia02:41
betraydalien2050: see what tips there are so that the graphical representation of hte 2 displays can be merged onto 1 spanning desktop02:41
hachreArrarita: doesnt it finda  program called nvidia x server settings?02:41
Arraritaonboard settings came up and settings02:41
ArraritaI don't see anything like that02:41
hachreArrarita: seems to me your driver instalaltion didnt work02:41
hachreArrarita: can you go on the terminal and type02:42
betraydhachre: it might appear on a root menu02:42
Arraritalet me open a terminal02:42
hachreArrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings02:42
Freel0aderdrat02:42
Freel0aderi think libindicate is just ubuntu02:42
trismFreel0ader: wouldn't help in 12.10+ anyway since the messaging menu uses a new api now02:43
Arraritait's installing02:43
hachreArrarita: both or only one of them?02:43
ArraritaBoth?02:43
ArraritaThe following packages will be REMOVED:02:44
Arrarita  nvidia-settings-313-updates02:44
ArraritaThe following NEW packages will be installed:02:44
Arrarita  nvidia-settings02:44
Arrarita0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:44
FloodBot1Arrarita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:44
ArraritaNeed to get 1,820 kB of archives.02:44
Belialif you tried to spell "ubuntu" as "butnut" there'd still be an extra "u."02:44
Belialyou know what i mean?02:44
hachreArrarita: ok that was wrong02:44
hachreArrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates02:45
ArraritaOK02:45
FearNotManwilee-nilee: Thanks again for your help!  I am slowly piecing this thing together...02:45
ArraritaI copied and pasted what you have here, is that ok?02:45
hachreArrarita: yea I saw, do this instead02:45
hachreArrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates02:45
alien2050betrayd: best I could find was panning option, but it pans the whole desktop as 3840x1080 on the first monitor instead...02:45
Freel0aderdrat!02:45
Freel0adertrism, so i cant use it???02:45
alien2050betrayd: that's in the "advanced options" of nvidia-settings...02:46
dank101Freel0ader, https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5BIHhwzM7wWUmJVOFRyWXQzSkk/edit?usp=sharing02:46
trismFreel0ader: it would need to be ported first02:46
dank101works on fedora02:46
dank101i ported it02:46
Arrarita sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates02:46
ArraritaReading package lists... Done02:46
ArraritaBuilding dependency tree02:46
ArraritaReading state information... Done02:46
Arraritanvidia-313-updates is already the newest version.02:46
FloodBot1Arrarita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:46
ArraritaThe following packages will be REMOVED:02:46
betraydalien2050: i almost didn't have to set up the second monitor and it'd show me the rest of whats on the left just fine02:46
OerHeksAaronDCampbell,02:47
betraydalien2050: you may want to try the max window trick02:47
hachreArrarita: good, the other thing it should have installed now02:47
hachreArrarita: try searching for nvidia-settings again02:47
hachreArrarita: in that menu02:47
OerHeksArrarita, please use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines02:47
ArraritaNot sure I understand02:48
betraydArrarita: dont dump all the text here is all02:48
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alien2050betrayd: just to be clear, I see the two output, I just can't scale an application spanning from the first monitor to the second one, it "glues" in the middle while resizing with a colored shade (which I'm guessing comes from compiz option somewhere)02:49
Arraritaoh ok, sorry02:49
auscompgeekArrarita, as a general rule of thumb, pasting more than 3 lines in IRC is frowned upon02:49
betraydalien2050: understood, but the apps all think thats the max02:49
ArraritaI do apologize02:49
betraydthe 'wrong' max02:49
ArraritaThis is my first time using this thing.02:49
betraydnostress Arrarita02:49
mmhmmauscompgeek: who told you that?02:49
auscompgeekmmhmm, it's something I've observed across the years02:50
hachreArrarita: any luck starting nvidia-settings now?02:50
mmhmmauscompgeek: so you don't have a soure?02:50
ArraritaOK, you said to search for something02:50
Arraritaok, let me look for that.02:50
auscompgeekmmhmm: not really02:50
ArraritaNo, same thing02:50
mmhmmauscompgeek: how many years have you been on irc?02:50
hachreArrarita: try launching it via the terminal, nvidia-settings02:51
alien2050betrayd: yeah it looks like they think it's the max... that's too bad... I really thought it was only a simple configuration option... I've had bad experiences when not using twinview... oh well... thank you for your help02:51
tophalf01I've been using IRC sinc 1989 hurhur <.>02:52
betraydyou're welcome, alien205002:52
ArraritaJust type nvidia-settings ?02:52
hachreArrarita: yea02:52
auscompgeekmmhmm: lost track02:52
mmhmmauscompgeek: it's time to get back on track.02:53
mmhmmauscompgeek: general rule of thumb.02:53
alien2050betrayd: and you know what, it DOES work when putting the window in the middle, then stretching on the second monitor, then moving it back to the center, resizing again, move, resize, etc... its just long and boring to do...02:53
Arraritaok, something about not using the NVIDIA X driver, edit X configuration02:54
Arraritaand another box02:54
hachreArrarita: can you run lspci and paste that output to paste.ubuntu.com02:54
ArraritaNVIDIA X Server Settings02:54
alien2050betrayd: and if I do xwininfo on the stretched window, it has accepted it new width and height02:54
betraydalien2050: you might want to try devilspie (which will enforce a max window the alternative way)02:54
betraydif its in the repos02:54
alien2050betrayd: cool let me try that... thx again02:55
betraydywelcome alien2050 and have fun, don't forget02:55
mmhmmdoes anyone like pie?02:56
dank101ME!02:56
mmhmmwhat kind of pie?02:56
CoreyLet's keep this on topic. :-)02:56
mmhmmok...let's see02:56
dank101mmhmm, LINUX PIE!02:56
mmhmmdoes anyone like pie while using ubuntu?02:56
dank101YES!02:56
mmhmmwhat kind of pie do you like while using ubuntu?02:56
dank101it's on topic 'cause it's ubuntu pie02:57
dank101Ubuntu pie02:57
mmhmmdoes anyone use ubuntu while having poontang pie?02:57
ArraritaNVIDIA X Server Settings, is this what I need?02:58
hachreArrarita: yeah, if it shows the temperature02:58
hachreArrarita: but with that error message i doubt it02:58
mmhmmwhat about eating ice cream cake while using ubuntu?02:58
mmhmmwould someone rather eat ice cream cake or eat pie while using ubuntu?02:58
ArraritaI don't see anything with a temperature02:59
Guest22816ice cream cake02:59
mmhmmthat's right02:59
hachreArrarita: please do lspci and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com02:59
kostkonArrarita, have you opened your box, removed your card and reinserted it just to make sure that it sits well in the pci slot?02:59
ArraritaI think that is way past what I am able to do.03:00
kostkonArrarita, ok then03:00
Guest22816anyone else get crazy cpu spike and over heating while using flash?03:00
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Guest22816spikes*03:00
hachreGuest22816: ya, thats normal03:00
ArraritaI had to take my box to be reinstalled because Launchpad told me something to do and my machine would not even boot up03:00
Arraritahe had to reconfigure something03:00
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Arraritaand he checked everything03:01
Arraritathis was a couple of weeks ago03:01
Arraritathis problem started with one of those updates a couple of weeks after I installed 12.1003:01
mmhmmyou guys ever use ubuntu?03:01
kostkonArrarita, ah ok then. although it could be a temp problem as already suggested03:01
ArraritaI started getting messages that all the updates would not install03:01
sonofzeusHey there03:01
Arraritait's been crazy ever since03:02
mmhmmyou guys ever use ubuntu.....ON WEED?03:02
sonofzeusHow shall I change my lubuntu desktop into lubuntu server without reinstalling?03:02
OerHeks!ot| mmhmm03:02
ubottummhmm: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:02
ArraritaThis box here is showing nvidia-settings configuration03:02
Arraritatemperature problem?03:03
mmhmm0erHeks, topic is ubuntu qualified. thanks for participating.03:03
ArraritaWhat's a HDD03:03
dank101does Additional Drivers work on 13.0403:03
Arraritaor HPD03:03
sonofzeushard drive03:03
dank101some people say it doesn;t03:03
ArraritaSo small I can barely read it.03:03
OerHekssonofzeus, there is no lubuntu-server, you can run any service at your lubuntu box.03:03
Arraritathat number says 2603:03
SpaceghostHello.03:04
mmhmm!lubuntu| OerHeks03:04
ubottuOerHeks: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.03:04
dank101anyone?03:04
OerHeksmmhmm stop it.03:04
Guest22816why can't I add any ppa's on 13.04? do I have to wait untill their supported or something?03:04
dank101!ubuntu| ubottu03:04
ubottudank101: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com03:04
SpaceghostI am having a problem and it's that the Control Volume doesn't work and the sound works even in mute.03:04
hachreGuest22816: should work as usual, what doesnt work?03:04
mmhmmOerHeks: please stay on topic.03:04
SpaceghostI am using Kubuntu 12.10.03:04
dank101Anyone??03:05
ArraritaWhere do I run nvidia-xconfig and restart the X server?03:06
OerHeksdank101, depends on your videocard, you cannot state "additional drivers do not work."03:06
dank101OerHeks, Thanks i have a nvidia 555m03:07
dank101GeForce03:07
dank101(Offically supported by nvidia)03:07
mmhmm!drivers| OerHeks03:08
mmhmm:(03:08
Aarunihey guys. why doesn't "sudo halt" or "sudo shutdown now" power off my system ?03:08
cfhowlett!nvidia03:08
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto03:08
OerHeksmmhmm stop that please, you are annoying03:08
mmhmm!ot| OerHeks03:09
ubottuOerHeks: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:09
hachreAaruni: sudo poweroff03:09
Aarunihachre: so, it will shutdown, and then poweroff ?03:09
hachreAaruni: yes03:09
Aarunihachre: so, what's the point of shutting down, or halting, without powering off/03:09
OerHeks!ops | mmhmm03:09
ubottummhmm: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!03:09
mmhmm!ops | OerHeks03:10
ubottuOerHeks: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!03:10
hachreAaruni: well thats from ages ago when power off wasnt available, and they left those commands in for compatibility03:10
Aww...03:10
Aarunihachre: ok, thank you for clearing it up03:10
hachreAaruni: if you want halt to act like poweroff you need to alias it in /etc/profile.d/03:10
Aarunibye03:10
hachrebye03:10
mmhmm!help | OerHeks03:10
ubottuOerHeks: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:10
Anti-S1eepD:03:11
SpaceghostI am having a problem and it's that the Control Volume doesn't work and the sound works even in mute.03:11
SpaceghostI am using Kubuntu 12.10.03:11
kostkonwrong person03:11
dank101!kubuntu | Spaceghost03:12
ubottuSpaceghost: Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde03:12
mmhmm!fuck | you03:12
ArraritaHello, how do I fix a temperature problem?03:13
Freel0aderhi03:13
dank101Arrarita, i know this issue03:13
dank101happens to me03:13
Freel0aderso does that mean the program wont work anymore?03:14
cfhowlettFreel0ader, greetings03:14
dank101let the computer sit03:14
dank101Freel0ader, ?03:14
Arraritanot sure that is what it is, but I am willing to try anything03:14
dank101Turn it off03:14
Arraritaturn what off?03:14
dank101the computer03:14
dank10110m to 3hr03:14
Arraritamy problem has to do with my screen freezing and pages scrolling uncontrollably03:15
cfhowlettArrarita, destkop?laptop?  and have you cleaned the vents recently?03:15
Arraritasome else here suggested that it might be a temperature problem03:15
Arraritadesktop03:15
Arraritait was just in the shop to be reconfigured so that I could use it after following some instruction from Launchpad on how to fix it.03:16
ArraritaThe technician cleaned and checked everything03:16
ArraritaThe other person suggested there might be a problem wtih the driver03:16
cfhowlettArrarita, don't know how qualified your tech was, but fans/vents can and do get blocked ... any unusual noise?03:17
alien2050I found the solution finally... yes! no more resizing manually03:17
dank101probably overhesting03:17
Arraritano noises03:17
mdmkolbeon my sister's laptop none of the screen widgets are showing when she logs in (i.e., all she sees is the background image).  Can someone help debug this?  I don't know where to start.03:17
cfhowlett!fan03:17
ubottufan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html03:17
Arraritathis problem started with an update03:17
Arraritaafter 12.1003:17
Arraritaprior to that I had no problems03:18
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turovaHello! I just downloaded 13.04 and am trying to install it on a dell xps 17 (l702x) that has 2 graphics cards.  It won't boot into the desktop - I see a mouse cursor on a black screen. With 12.04, I had to use the alternate installer because the desktop installer wouldn't boot (most likely due to optimus).. With 13.04, there's no alternate installer image… Is there a way to get it working with 13.04?03:19
cfhowlettArrarita, try this: reboot and choose and older kernel/version of ubuntu.  Monitor your temp.  If it fixes, then the kernel update is suspect03:19
alien2050mdmkolbe: could be an upgrade left some artifacts, trying pointing her home directory to another directory, so it will create a new gnome/kde profile when she logs in03:20
cfhowlett!nomodeset|turova,03:20
ubottuturova,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:20
ArraritaYou have to bear with me, I don't understand half this stuff.  How do I choose an older version of ubuntu?  do I have to reinstall it?03:20
Arraritaand where do I monitor the temp?03:21
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cfhowlettArrarita, no problem.  reboot.  on the grub screen, you should see "older version" .   Choose one03:21
unowindows8hello all03:21
cfhowlettArrarita, however you are doing it now that makes you think it's too hot03:21
unowindows8I see you are busy with Arrarita but let me know when you can help me.  I messed up my grub, and can't even live boot on my Windows 8 machine03:21
cfhowlettunowindows8, greetings03:22
ArraritaI don't remember seeing that.  I just installed 13.0403:22
Freel0aderdank101,help03:22
dank101Freel0ader, yes03:22
ArraritaAnother person I was working with here suggested it might be too hot.03:22
Freel0aderImportError: No module named indicate03:22
cfhowlettArrarita, ah, well, then you "upgraded" from 12.10 ... not update.  details matter.03:22
dank101Freel0ader, ubuntu only03:22
dank101sorry03:22
cfhowlettArrarita, another person?  on irc?  who isn't holding/touching your machine ... :)  Why do YOU think it's running hot?03:23
ArraritaThis problem started with 12.10.  I upgraded today hoping this problem would be fixed and it's not03:23
Arraritasomeone on irc03:23
Freel0aderdank101, so, i cant use this program after all:O03:24
cfhowlettArrarita, what problem?  you said "temperature" issues .. so that's NOT the issue?  or did I misunderstand?03:24
dank101Freel0ader, sadly you are correct03:24
ArraritaOK, let me do this again.03:24
unowindows8hi cfhowlett03:25
unowindows8hadn't seen you03:25
ArraritaMy problem has to do with my computer constantly freezing when I have my browser open and uncontrollable scrolling.03:25
unowindows8i broke my grub, already tried several things03:25
ArraritaIt happens when I have a word document open as well03:25
ArraritaI can't do any work on it because it keeps freezing03:25
Arraritaand scrolling03:25
ArraritaAnother person on irc first suggested it might be the driving not config correctly03:26
ajmhey everyone. need some help. I installed gnome-tweak-tool (per http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-tweak-tool-a-tool-for-changing-specialised-or-advanced-gnome3-settings.html) and ever since, my Unity has been completely borked. How can I reset everything back t ohow it was?03:26
Arraritaand I was not able to get into nvidia settings03:26
* unowindows8 scratches his head for not reason at all03:26
unowindows8*no03:26
turovaubottu: I enabled that and could see the startup screen, but then it went to a black screen.  When I did ctrl-alt-f5, ctrl-alt-f7, it shows me the same black screen with a mouse pointer, but at a worse resolution than when I booted without that flag.  Are optimus issues generally fixed with nomodeset?  If so, maybe I should just flash the image onto a different usb stick and try again03:26
ubottuturova: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:26
cfhowlettArrarita, I see.  try this (suspecting desktop environment issues), logout.  click on the ubuntu icon to select a different envirnonent, i.e. non-unity.  login03:26
turovaoh, right - I meant cfhowlett03:27
ArraritaI will try and figure that out, but I have no clue what a non-unity environment is.03:27
ArraritaThank you, I am going to try that.03:28
cfhowlettArrarita, you'll see options on the login menu ... click the ubunt icon to trigger03:28
Morph4meshe left03:28
hachrecfhowlett: I tried to help her before, and after a while she simply stopped responding to me...03:28
hachrecfhowlett: dont bother03:28
hachre;)03:28
dfreyI'm having sound problems after upgrading to 13.04.  Are there any cached settings I can try deleting for pulseaudio or alsa?03:29
cfhowlettOK ...03:29
hachrecfhowlett: she has no working graphics drivers installed for acceleration and firefoxes web rendering acceleration causes her issues - i tried to make her give me an lspci output to figure out what graphics card she has but she stopped responding03:29
Morph4mei think it's like she says though it's a little over her head03:30
hachreyeah but she ran shell commands fine before, and also she could just say so instead of stopping to respond..03:30
Morph4metrue but at times hse did say she couldn't grasp it ...frustrated i think03:31
tophalf01Ι'd јuѕt lіkе tο іntеrјесt fοr а mοmеnt. Wһаt уοu'rе rеfеrrіng tο аѕ Lіnux, іѕ іn fасt, GΝU/Lіnux, οr аѕ Ι'vе rесеntlу tаkеn tο саllіng іt, GΝU рluѕ Lіnux. Lіnux іѕ nοt аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtеm untο іtѕеlf, but rаtһеr аnοtһеr frее сοmрοnеnt οf а fullу funсtіοnіng GΝU ѕуѕtеm mаdе uѕеful bу tһе GΝU сοr03:31
tophalf01еlіbѕ, ѕһеll utіlіtіеѕ аnd vіtаl ѕуѕtеm сοmрοnеntѕ сοmрrіѕіng а full OS аѕ dеfіnеd bу ΡOSΙX.03:31
tophalf01Mаnу сοmрutеr uѕеrѕ run а mοdіfіеd vеrѕіοn οf tһе GΝU ѕуѕtеm еvеrу dау, wіtһοut rеаlіzіng іt. Τһrοugһ а ресulіаr turn οf еvеntѕ, tһе vеrѕіοn οf GΝU wһісһ іѕ wіdеlу uѕеd tοdау іѕ οftеn саllеd "Lіnux", аnd mаnу οf іtѕ uѕеrѕ аrе nοt аwаrе tһаt іt іѕ bаѕісаllу tһе GΝU ѕуѕtеm, dеvеlοреd b03:31
Morph4meshe*03:31
tophalf01у tһе GΝU Ρrοјесt.03:31
tophalf01Τһеrе rеаllу іѕ а Lіnux, аnd tһеѕе реοрlе аrе uѕіng іt, but іt іѕ јuѕt а раrt οf tһе ѕуѕtеm tһеу uѕе. Lіnux іѕ tһе kеrnеl: tһе рrοgrаm іn tһе ѕуѕtеm tһаt аllοсаtеѕ tһе mасһіnе'ѕ rеѕοurсеѕ tο tһе οtһеr рrοgrаmѕ tһаt уοu run. Τһе kеrnеl іѕ аn еѕѕеntіаl раrt οf аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtе03:31
FloodBot1tophalf01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:31
hachrelol03:32
hachrewhat the hell03:32
hachrego spread your religion elsewhere :D03:32
hachreLinux isnt GNU and has nothing to do with GNU and GNU is no os03:32
hachreget your facts straight, preacher03:33
tophalf01Oh, God.03:33
tophalf01I'm switching to Hurd as soon as possible.03:33
hachrewell good luck with that lol03:33
tophalf01So, what you're saying is, you don't know what GNU is.03:34
hachreno what I'm saying is you don't know the difference between userland tools and an os03:34
CoreyLet's keep this channel for Ubuntu support, please.03:34
aliendude5300Hey, Ubuntu isn't detecting my Windows 8 partition, and I want to be able to dual boot into that for Photoshop CS5 and some other things that don't work with Linux quite yet (or as well)03:36
aliendude5300How can I fix that?03:36
cfhowlett!ot03:36
cfhowlett!ot|tophalf01,03:36
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:36
ubottutophalf01,: please see above03:36
cfhowlett!uefi|aliendude5300, I'd suspect some uefi issues03:36
ubottualiendude5300, I'd suspect some uefi issues: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI03:36
aliendude5300cfhowlett, I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 right now. Is there anything I can do to add Windows 8 to the boot menu. Also, yes, I am on a UEFI system with SecureBoot disabled.03:38
aliendude5300Sigh... it would be really nice to get my dual boot working :/03:44
Ed|LaptopHey Guys, currently running "release do-upgrade" on a Ubuntu 12.10 Server 64bit machine to update to Ubuntu 13.04 Server 64bit.   The Server has a gigabit internet connection and is using about 20% CPU/memory.    This update has been running almost 3 hours now, is this normal?03:44
cfhowlettEd|Laptop, kind of depends on your DL speed, innit?03:44
Ed|LaptopGigabit internet03:45
aliendude5300Ed|Laptop,  it might be because it's downloading the files. Because of the rather recent release, it would take longer because of the overloaded Ubuntu mirrors03:45
cfhowlettEd|Laptop, but I suspect the servers are swamped ... torrent and clean install are the recommended work around03:45
Ed|Laptopok i gotcha03:45
Ed|Laptopthat makes sense03:45
snowrichardoh there's a 2013 version just released...03:46
Ed|Laptopwhen did 2013.04 release? Wasn't it a couple weeks ago?03:46
aliendude5300April 2503:47
ranjeetHi everyone, I am a new user to Ubuntu 12.10. Can someone help me turn off the firewall03:47
mdmkolbealien2050: thx, for the suggestion.  It turns out that something was corrupted in the session like you suggested and a "unity --reset" fixed it.03:47
Ed|Laptopdamn! ok that makes even more sense then, ok thanks  lol03:47
ranjeetI would like to access my machine from office?03:47
sam113101what am I doing wrong? https://gist.github.com/sam113101/b74c433486d291c307fd03:47
cfhowlettranjeet, firewall is not enabled by default03:47
turovacfhowlett: I just reflashed onto a new usb stick and ran with and without nomodeset and neither of those helps03:47
ranjeetbut why am I unable to connect from office to home or vice versa03:48
ranjeetany help is appreciated03:48
cfhowlettturova, re-ask in this channel and state your attempted fixes.  someone else might know03:48
turovacfhowlett: ok, thanks03:49
ranjeetcfhowlett: anything you would suggest?03:49
renzomhey everyone, i just upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10 and when i restarted, the desktop appeared and a few seconds later a kernel-panic black window showed up. It happens everytime I start my notebook. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance03:50
aliendude5300renzom, I just had that exact same problem and spent 4 hours figuring it out... do you have an Nvidia GPU by any chance?03:50
aliendude5300here's how I fixed that: In GRUB I added the nomodeset flag after the quiet in the boot options, then I started up in recovery mode while plugged into ethernet, did sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. That did the trick.03:52
nastsucould anyone give me a hand, I was installing couchdb when it wouldnt stop so I used kill -9 {pid} and now it wont start again, even after purging and restarting03:52
renzomaliendude5300:  no i don't have an nvidia card :(03:53
aliendude5300try to do the same thing with fglrx instead of nvidia-current03:53
aliendude5300I think it might be a graphics driver issue for you too03:53
aliendude5300I upgraded by formatting my 12.10 partition, copying my /home to my external, and reinstalling 13.04. it was a pain, but I eventually got it03:54
Guest75521easist way to stream videos from my pc to tablet?03:54
renzomaliendude5300:  i'm sorry but i don't understand the "add the nomodeset flag" part of your explanation, can you further explain this part please?03:54
Guest75521renzom getting a blank screen? lol03:55
aliendude5300I honestly don't know what nomodeset does but it was suggested to me here when I asked for help. You hit e on the Ubuntu option, scroll your cursor to where it says 'quiet splash' then after quiet add a space and type "nomodeset" and then press ctrl-x to boot03:56
renzomaliendude5300:  excellent, i'll try that, thanks man!03:57
aliendude5300adding that option made it possible for me to boot, and then I installed the proprietary nvidia graphics driver which fixed all of my issues03:57
nastsucould anyone give me a hand, I was installing couchdb when it wouldnt stop so I used kill -9 {pid} and now it wont start again, even after purging and restarting03:57
aliendude5300you're welcome! :D03:57
SonikkuAmericaAfter trying the mini.iso install of 12.04 LTS, I find I can no longer change my security update settings with software-properties-gtk. Is this a result of the mini.iso install?03:57
turovaI'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 x64 desktop and can't seem to get the installer desktop to boot.  I have a dell xps 17 (l702x) with optimus, which, I'm pretty sure, is why it won't load.  I installed 12.04 with the alternate installer iso, but they don't seem to be making those anymore.  I also tried setting the nomodeset flag, but that doesn't seem to help either - I see the loading screen, then a mouse cursor on a black screen, then ju03:59
turovablack screen.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can get around this?03:59
SonikkuAmericaturova: You'd be right about the Optimus. Have you tried Bumblebee? (No. Seriously.)04:00
turovaI can't get the installer to boot… I'm using bumblebee on my 12.04 instal04:01
nastsuDoes anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?04:01
turovaSonikkuAmerica: but I'm trying to get 13.04 installed fresh over it and it won't even get into the installer04:01
SonikkuAmericaturova: You might try the alternate installer or the mini.iso04:02
Biomechdhey guys, is the canon ip2702 compatible with ubuntu 12.10?04:02
SonikkuAmericalike I did.04:02
Biomechdor is there anything i can do to get it to print?04:02
turovaSonikkuAmerica: I wanted to use the alternate installer because that's how I installed 12.04, but I don't think it exists for 13.04…04:03
SonikkuAmericaBiomechd: The first few Google search results for "canon ip2702 ubuntu" might help.04:03
SonikkuAmericaturova: It should! Look for ubuntu-13.04-alternate-$ARCH.iso, where $ARCH is i386 or amd6404:04
SonikkuAmericaAfter trying the mini.iso install of 12.04 LTS, I find I can no longer change my security update settings with software-properties-gtk. Is this a result of the mini.iso install?04:04
zgudinoabout to update my 12.10 to 13.0404:05
wilee-nileeSonikkuAmerica, Should not be.04:05
nastsuDoes anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?04:05
SonikkuAmericazgudino: How, may I ask?04:05
Coreynastsu: What do the logs say?04:05
turovaSonikkuAmerica: Yea, I really don't think that exists… That was what I looked for before coming here… At least I can't find it anywhere.  You mind giving me a link if you know where it is?04:06
nastsuthe logs arent telling me anything based on what I can see, though I don't know if I was looking in the right places04:06
zgudinoSonikkuAmerica press alt + f204:06
SonikkuAmericawilee-nilee: Oh wow, you're still up. Yeah, for some reason it's grayed out, the combo box for "When there are security updates:" (This is for 12.04)04:06
zgudinoand type04:06
ranjeetcan someone give some suggestions what sofwares to install in ubuntu 12.10?04:06
zgudinoupdate-manager -d04:06
zgudinoand then just follow the instruction04:07
zgudino:)04:07
SonikkuAmericazgudino: Oh. I don't need your instructions; I was just wondering what method you used.04:07
zgudinohehe04:07
SonikkuAmericazgudino: And you don't need the -d04:07
cfhowlettranjeet, go to software center.  see what you like.04:07
BiomechdSonikkuAmerica: the driver says "i386". doesn't that mean it's for a 32-bit system? or will it work just fine on my 64-bit system?04:07
Ed|LaptopSo after 3 hrs the upgrade from 12.10 to unbutu 13.04 finally wrapped up (makes sense now that I know the release was just yesterday).   Problem though is that post-reboot my ssh shell still tells me that a new release is available and to run "do-release-upgrade" however lsb_release -a shows that it is infact 13.04.   Is there something else I need to do?04:07
zgudinooh cool! thanks @SonikkuAmerica04:07
wilee-nileeSonikkuAmerica, I do remember something like that check the sources list against one generated here.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/04:07
zgudinoit is right now downloding :)04:08
aliendude5300quick question -- where is the option to re-enable workspaces in 13.0404:08
nastsuCorey, I can't seem to find anything related to the application anywhere and the log folder for that application is empty04:08
cfhowlettEd|Laptop, run sudo apt-get update  upgrade  dist-upgrade04:08
SonikkuAmericawilee-nilee: It'll be 12.10 when I reboot, but thanks for the link04:08
wilee-nileeno problem04:08
Coreynastsu: Which application is this?04:08
nastsuCorey, couchdb04:08
Coreynastsu: There a lingering pid file in /var/run04:09
Corey?04:09
zgudinoI cant quite remember but it should be under system settings @ aliendude530004:09
zgudinolet me double check04:09
nastsuCorey, there seems to be one in there right now yes ( I did try to delete it earlier not sure if that was the right step for that)04:09
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zgudinoSystem Settings / Appearance and click the Behavior tab and check Enable workspaces.04:10
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SonikkuAmericazgudino: Another method you could try (which won't crash because of GTK+) is running [ do-release-upgrade ] in a tty.04:10
Ed|Laptopcfhowlett: OK thanks, ran this: apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get dist-upgrade -y;        |   Took about 30 seconds to run through without any errors, when I open a new SSH connection to the server though it still says "New release '13.04' available. \ Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it."04:10
aliendude5300zgudino: found it, thanks! :)04:10
aliendude5300don't know why they removed that by default04:11
dank101Ed|Laptop,  reboot it04:11
zgudino+1 @SonikkuAmerica04:11
Ed|Laptopdank101: already did once, should I a second time?04:11
dank101Ed|Laptop,  yes04:11
Ed|Laptopk thanks will try dank!04:12
aliendude5300Ed|Laptop, you can try checking your sources.list to make sure that you have all of your repos on raring before doing an upgrade. That might be the problem. I04:13
GeekShedDoes #Ubuntu have a channel on irc.geekshed.net?04:13
dank101no04:13
aliendude5300It could also be a glitch, and you might already be on raring04:13
dank101out04:13
GeekShedGeekshed is better then Freenode.04:13
NewbHelpmehHey would anyone mind helping me for a second? I have something specific I'm trying to do, and can't find the right instructions on what I want.04:13
dank101GeekShed, GTFO04:13
aliendude5300NewbHelpmeh, ask away04:13
Ed|Laptopdank101: ok rebooted it second time, still shows the same message to "Run 'do-release-upgrade'04:14
SonikkuAmerica!language04:14
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:14
GeekShedirc://irc.geekshed.net04:14
SonikkuAmerica!ot | GeekShed04:14
ubottuGeekShed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:14
GeekShedMAC FOREVER!04:14
Ed|Laptopdank101: running that command shows "No new release found"04:14
nastsuCorey, it does seem to be empty as well... so04:14
NewbHelpmehWell, I'm running Windows 8, and would like to install 13.04. I have an ssd, and 3 hdds. I would like to install to one of the hdds04:14
SonikkuAmerica!mac04:14
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages04:14
GeekShedUbuntu is a free loaders version of Mac.04:14
Coreynastsu: Of course the pid file is empty.  rm it. :-)04:14
KopkinsUbuntu is a lot better04:15
NewbHelpmehI'm not sure how the booting works when I install it that way.04:15
SonikkuAmericaGeekShed: Mac is a rip-off of FreeBSD, not Linux.04:15
GeekShedKopkins the best things in life are sure not free.04:15
aliendude5300GeekShed is a troll... just ignore him until he gets kicked.04:15
GeekShedWith mac you get a computer that can handle everything and what does ubuntu have *Cricket sounds*04:15
dank101GeekShed, Go waste your money on 6000$ laptops with the freeBSD clone calling it there oen04:15
NewbHelpmehCan you point me in the right direction for this?04:15
Ed|LaptopGeekShed: We're all very proud of the fact that mommy and daddy spent $3,000 on a facebook portal for you, now move along......04:16
dank101Someone kick him04:16
GeekShedEd|Laptop I don't live with my parents bitch.04:16
auscompgeekNewbHelpmeh: should be simple enough to dual-boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu, as long as you install Ubuntu after Windows04:16
nastsuCorey after rming and what not it will just re-make itself when I try to run the process and creates a blank pid again :/ this is puzzling me as to why,,04:16
IdleOne!language | GeekShed04:16
dank101GeekShed, Awwww, is the wittle troll mad?04:16
ubottuGeekShed: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:16
cfhowlett!ot|GeekShed,04:16
ubottuGeekShed,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:16
Ed|Laptop./ignore geekshed    <-run that without the leading period, problem solved04:16
auscompgeekNewbHelpmeh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot04:16
GeekShedDon't make me get the Ku Klux Klan in here.04:16
aliendude5300auscompgeek, I disagree. After installing Ubuntu, I can't boot my Windows 8 anymore... :(04:17
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KopkinsWhen I boot 12.04.2  i get disabling irq #17. apparently it's about itterupt requests? so should that be turned on?04:17
SonikkuAmericaOh thanks, IdleOne! Didn't know you were still up.04:17
nugrohoWHA42035504:17
nugrohoSOC15569404:17
FloodBot1nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:17
Biomechdso i'm trying to install my printer driver, and this is what i get. http://www.pasteall.org/41756 i followed what this post said. http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?23130-Canon-iP2702-in-64-bit-ubuntu04:17
NewbHelpmehI have looked over that auscompgeek, and I'm just not sure how it's going to boot. Is GRUB going to take over? Win8 is on my SSD, so do I need to change the boot order to the hdd?04:17
auscompgeekoh, doesn't it discuss multi-disk configurations?04:18
Ed|LaptopOK So I've ran apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get distro-upgrade -y; on my Ubuntu 12.10 Server & rebooted it (twice).  lsb_release -a shows it is upgraded to version 13.04.  However, still when I re-connect post-reboot it displays: New release '13.04' available.04:19
Ed|Laptopany ideas?04:19
Ed|Laptopalso have run do-release-upgrade multiple times with no change04:19
NewbHelpmehIt does, wait one.04:19
aliendude5300speaking of windows 8, does anyone know how to get my windows 8 partition to show up in GRUB so I can boot it? I need it for professional reasons, unfortunately04:19
NewbHelpmehaliendude, that's the issue I'm afraid of, haha. I don't want to install and not have 8 show up.04:19
Ed|Laptopgood luck aliendude5300, i can only get it to work if i install linux on top of Windows MBR04:20
aliendude5300NewbHelpmeh: If you don't have a UEFI system like I do, it seems to work fine04:20
aliendude5300Unfortunately, i'm screwed on that one haha04:20
NewbHelpmehI do have UEFI I believe.04:20
Biomechdaliendude5300: just go up to your boss and be like "windows sucks ass and we need to switch to linux" lol04:20
nastsuDoes anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?04:20
IdleOne!language | Biomechd04:20
ubottuBiomechd: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:20
dank101Biomechd, Sir, you are the smartest person eve04:21
dank101r04:21
Biomechddank101: why thank you lol04:21
kanatsuGood Night04:21
nastsuthis problem is going to drive me nuts :(04:23
spydonThe terminal on ubuntu 13.04 insists on opening bash instead of zsh even though zsh is in chsh, is there any solution for this?04:23
Biomechdcan anyone help me with this? http://www.pasteall.org/4175604:24
aliendude5300Sigh... I figure I could probably add Windows 8 to the grub boot menu manually somehow since the os prober can't properly detect it, but I'm not knowledgeable to do so, and I'm afraid of breaking my now working system :(04:24
SimonsAlguem br?04:24
nastsuDoes anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?04:24
wilee-nileealiendude5300, Make a thread at the ubuntu forums, great help there.04:25
cfhowlett!br|Simon04:25
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zgudinoso far so good it is installing right now :D04:26
renzomhi, today i upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 and i have a kernel-panic a few seconds after the desktop shows up, even if i try to ctrl+alt+f2 before it still crashes. I tried booting in safe mode but the system freezes few seconds after desktop appears. Any suggestions? thanks in advance04:26
auscompgeekaliendude5300: you could probably reconfigure the Windows 8 bootloader to show Ubuntu somehow04:26
SonikkuAmericaaliendude5300: Or try using EasyBCD04:27
aliendude5300hmm... that would probably involve reinstalling Windows 8 to bring back it's bootloader. Such a hassle for something that has traditionally, in the past worked just fine -- Dual booting by installing Windows and then Ubuntu, and using GRUB to choose what to boot04:28
aliendude5300If I didn't need to get to Windows, I would just wait for os-prober to be patched and run update-grub :/04:29
zgudino@renzom no way you can boot to recovery?04:29
FearNotManwilee-nilee: In case you're interested I finally figured it out, but it sucked way bad.  I posted the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-suspected-grub-kernel-config-file-messed-up04:30
renzom@zgudino right now i booted to the previous kernel and works just fine, tried several times to boot in safe mode and everytime it freezes04:31
cfhowlettrenzom, bad kernels do happen to good people ...04:31
aliendude5300renzom, did you do an upgrade to 13.04 or a clean install? doing a clean install might help04:32
SonikkuAmericacfhowlett: Oh, that was good.04:32
renzom@aliendude5300 it's an upgrade, i'll try a live version next to see what happens04:33
Biomechdhulloo?04:34
cfhowlettBiomechd, we see you04:34
renzom@cfhowlett nice poetry :)04:34
aliendude5300hmm.. maybe some config files or other settings are left over from the old install that are incompatible or something04:34
SonikkuAmericaMaybe run a few things in recovery mode04:35
Biomechdcfhowlett: thou hast sighted me. 'tis unacceptable. lol04:35
auscompgeekaliendude5300: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader#Windows_Vista_or_7_or_804:36
SonikkuAmericaBiomechd: I wist not that thou wert in the channel... (wist = know)04:36
aliendude5300auscompgeek: "Note: these methods will work on Legacy firmwares (not UEFI)"04:36
SonikkuAmerica*knew04:36
Biomechdanyway, i'm still having problems installing my printer. i tried editing a line in an i386 file, and it gave me this. http://www.pasteall.org/4175604:37
zgudinothere are several reports about kernel panic after upgrade. it seems you are not the only one @renzom04:37
aliendude5300I have a UEFI system, unfortunately04:37
NewbHelpmehAs for the dual boot issue, is the solution here a viable one? Would it work for me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168633504:37
auscompgeekaliendude5300: try the section before that04:37
aliendude5300The problem with that is by "fixing" the MBR using a Windows install disc, I would lose access to Ubuntu. It would boot up straight into Windows04:38
renzom@zgudino i found a lot of dell notebooks among those who reported, mine is a dell too, might be a pattern?04:39
SonikkuAmericaRight. Boot Repair from an Ubuntu live image would fix this.04:39
Biomechdaliendude5300: there's a program you can install from your ubuntu livecd.04:39
SonikkuAmericaaliendude5300: Look at my last say in the channel...04:39
zgudinowow...04:39
SonikkuAmericaI think I overcooked my ramen noodles.04:40
aliendude5300Biomechd: I'm in Ubuntu right now, and it's working flawlessly. Boot repair only fixes the dual boot issue with non-UEFI (legacy) systems at the moment, and running the repair tool provided by microsoft would break my ability to boot into Ubuntu. I'm a bit screwed here :(04:40
BiomechdSonikkuAmerica: you make me want ramen noodles now04:41
auscompgeekaliendude5300: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Master_Boot_Record_and_Boot_Manager might help as well04:41
auscompgeekaliendude5300: hopefully EasyBCD will work on UEFI Windows 8 bootloaders04:42
* SonikkuAmerica tosses Biomechd a package. "Here. Boil a pint of water, add ramen, cook for 3 minutes, stir in seasoning."04:42
* SonikkuAmerica !ot's himself04:42
BiomechdSonikkuAmerica: got any ideas about this? http://www.pasteall.org/4175604:44
aleks_hello all! i need help with my wireless network that is disconnecting everytime04:45
SonikkuAmericaBiomechd: [ sudo apt-get -f install ] (with no packages)04:45
syed_A Problem while installing a wifi driver04:50
syed_i am new to ubuntu(linux) enviroment04:51
syed_Did dual boot on my laptop04:51
syed_however I am unable to install a wifi driver on ubuntu04:51
aliendude5300what's the best way to install Java in Ubuntu? There seems to be a PPA available, but I want to keep my installation as clean as possible04:51
syed_can anyone help ,e04:51
syed_?04:52
syed_How to install Wifi driver on ubuntu?04:52
aliendude5300syed_ run lspci04:52
syed_@ali04:53
aliendude5300then post the output in a pastebin04:53
syed_already did that04:53
syed_I have  acopy of it04:53
aliendude5300what is the make and model of your wireless card?04:53
syed_bcm431204:54
syed_14e4:4315 (rev 01)04:54
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cfhowlettsyed_, easiest way is to plug in a hardwire ethernet, run restricted drivers04:55
syed_broadcom Corporation BXM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY04:55
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cfhowlettsyed_, if you don't have that, you can install the linux STA driver from broadcom ...04:56
aliendude5300syed_ plug your system into ethernet and install the b43 driver. This page should help you:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:57
syed_I tired04:57
auscompgeekaliendude5300: do you want Oracle Java or OpenJDK?04:57
syed_I cant plugit in04:57
auscompgeekaliendude5300: I believe you can install OpenJDK 6 by installing default-jre (or default-jre-headless)04:57
syed_as I do not have any ethernet in my place04:57
syed_Att doesnt provide that04:58
przemek_hello i have problem with my raid controller everything looks very slow when i make time dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output.img bs=8k04:58
przemek_count=256k , sometimes i have  0m3.134s (so this is good ) but when i put this command once again i have real 0m49.591s (very slow)  server is not in production , i have no process in this server04:58
syed_isnt there a better way?04:58
cfhowlettsyed_, do you have a USB or CD of ubuntu?04:58
syed_no. I downloaded that.04:58
syed_iso file.04:59
aliendude5300 auscompgeek I want Oracle Java (the newest, most secure version possible)05:00
cfhowlettsyed_, good.  what version?05:00
syed_Its 12.04.205:01
aliendude5300you could download the packages you need, put them on a flash drive, and then install them in Ubuntu05:01
syed_The stable version05:01
aliendude5300also, newer versions of ubuntu have better hardware support. 13.04 might support your wireless out of the box05:02
spydonThe terminal on ubuntu 13.04 insists on opening bash instead of zsh even though zsh is in chsh, is there any solution for this?05:02
syed_LTS05:02
cfhowlettsyed_, alright.  make a boot usb and use the "STA no internet access" of this tutorial.  I use this all the time.  3 minutes in the terminal and wifi enabled ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:02
otendsay that my session doesn't take input properly; that is to say, alt-tab doesn't work, hotkeys don't work, input to all programs is broken, ctrl+alt+F* works05:02
otendwhat could I do to regain control and return to the desktop?05:02
syed_I AM NOOB. HOW05:03
cfhowlett!usb|syed_,05:03
ubottusyed_,: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent05:03
Biomechdrapid cranial deterioration?05:03
otendany reliable things to break from that input refusal?05:03
syed_You mean I should install it again?05:03
syed_is that what ur saying?05:03
otend(also worth noting: the mouse pointer does work, but clicking does not)05:03
relipse i'm using putty connecting to a debian server but i'm getting whacko characters like: main.cpp:75: error: âdeckâ was not declared in this scope05:04
cfhowlettsyed_, no.  read the link.05:04
ipotatoI have an installation/upgrade problem going from 12.10 to 13.04. Graphics bug. Screen either reboots to random pixels or repeated patterns.05:04
syed_ok05:04
Ed|Laptophas anyone in here installed freenx server on ubuntu 13.04 ?05:05
ipotatoI cannot even boot from a 13.04 usb drive, as the the screen is not useable05:05
spydonotend: maybe you can restart unity from TTY then?05:06
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ipotatoit's an intel ivy bridge chipset05:07
otendwould that involve all programs restarting or just the wm and the like restarting?05:07
otendand what would be the command to restart?05:08
spydonotend: it is possible to restart unity and not close the programs, I don't remember how though... I think for example "sudo service gdm restart" will close your programs05:08
spydonotend: I can try first if you have important work that you might need to save?05:09
otenddon't have much open05:09
otendoh, unity --replace seems to be it05:11
otendso close, and yet so far05:11
otendevidently, that was not the solution05:13
spydonotend: I think you have to set the screen not to be the TTY if you want to run unity --replace from there05:14
otendI just ran it from the screen itself05:14
spydonotend: which one was that?05:14
otendit sort of broke everything05:14
otendunity --replace05:14
Biomechdso i can't seem to access the printer settings in libreoffice after getting my laptop to acknowledge my printer while booted in ubuntu.05:14
spydonotend: did you try the gdm restart?05:15
otendi'll be trying it on the next crash05:15
otendand then looking again, then trying the next option05:15
WormFoodhow do I stop the gui? I need to stop x11 to install a program, and I can't figure out which one it is in /etc/init.d/05:15
spydonWormFood: maybe sudo service gdm stop?05:17
turovaSonikkuAmerica and cfhowlett… I did an md5 check and it seems the torrent downloaded with an error.  I redownloaded and booting with nomodeset seems to work now05:19
turovathanks05:19
cfhowlettturova, no problem.  best of luck.  By the way, scrambled ISO's are common on direct download.  consider using the torrents05:20
zgudinooh great! upgrade is done and boot up w/o problems :D05:21
SonikkuAmericaApparently the live image upgrade I did from 12.10 > 13.04 fixed my problems from before... but now I can't graphically log in (lightdm loop).05:21
nugrohoYMH29743305:21
nugrohoWHA80047705:21
FloodBot1nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:21
WormFoodspydon, nope, didn't work05:22
spydonWormFood: ah, maybe sudo service lightdm stop? I'm just guessing...05:22
WormFoodwhere is a list of what services there are?05:23
ipotatoIs there a way to switch to the terminal when I have graphics issues that make the screen unusable?05:23
WormFoodvery good spydon, that did the trick. Thanks a lot.05:24
spydonWormFood: glad to help05:24
WormFoodI'm a debian user, and I don't know The Ubuntu Way (tm), so I'm looking to do things the way I'm used to05:24
Awwipotato, ctrl+alt+f205:25
spydonWormFood: Yeah, some stuff doesn't really make sense05:25
Awwipotato, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the graphical stuff05:26
SonikkuAmericaNever mind, solved it. 'Night!05:26
lindol: )05:26
lordduneHello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums05:26
otendrestarting gdm didn't work05:27
lindolsorry, i can't resolve your problem,05:27
lindoli m newbieee ;05:27
lorddunei discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.05:27
otendthis game hates me for playing it, and takes my system down with it, I suppose05:27
dfreyI'm trying to figure out what is wrong with my pulseaudio setup, but something seems to keep spawning pulseaudio as soon as I kill it.  How can I stop that?05:28
otendperhaps changing DE would be useful05:28
lorddunedoes anyone know anything about Tiger here? Can I kill this process permanently?05:28
Ari-Yanghey, I have a question, what do the top 2 settings (send flush and send dump of composite) do? here's a screen shot http://gyazo.com/13559c62f24a52f59ba2586939162cec05:33
lordduneanyone here know how to shut of a kernal process?05:34
Ari-Yang(on ubuntu 12.10 and this is enlightenment DE)05:34
nugrohoJPL74925005:34
nugrohoAPB80077905:34
Campfirewhats the list channals command05:35
Ari-Yang/list05:35
Ari-Yangafaik05:35
Campfirety05:35
lordduneTiger security and audit process included in the Ubuntu kernel is making my machine run hot and makes the HD run non-stop . it runs deb_checkmd5sum all the time >>> /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums05:35
lorddunecan anyone explain why this is happening and suggest a possible solution?05:36
iDrofoxhello, if i download ubuntu 13,04 iso, can i use it to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 without reinstalling all programs ?05:36
cfhowlettiDrofox, ?  clean install will give you ... a clean, default installation.05:38
iDrofoxcfhowlett: i don't want clean install all i want to know if i can upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 using cd05:39
spydoniDrofox: "Offline upgrade options via alternate CDs are no longer offered for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server. "05:40
iDrofoxspydon: so it's means i have to do a clean install ?05:40
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spydoniDrofox: you could backup you home-directory and then replace it after the fresh install. You will loose all you applications though.05:41
iDrofoxspydon: ok thanks05:41
frondtrying to figure out how guake configures where it draws on the screen... in 13.04 mine is off-kilter at the top and is too wide for my display...05:43
Campfirewhats the name of that off topic ubuntu05:43
cfhowlett!ot05:43
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:43
Campfirety05:43
frondsorry and thank you05:44
cfhowlettfrond, ?  the offtopic was for Campfire per his request05:45
cfhowlettfrond, I THINK quake has preferences settings controlling display05:46
kingjagHey all I need some help i am trying to setup a pptp connection on my server so that i can connect through my server and have ALL traffic route through my dedicated server so that it looks like i am browsing the web right from my server i have pptpd installed and i can connect but i cant browse the web via that connection to my server05:46
DanaGSay, why is it that I can't log into my serial console until GDM or lightdm starts?  This is Ubuntu 13.04, but the same was true of 12.10.  If I enter my username, then press any letter, it immediately rejects the password I didn't even get a chance to try to enter!05:46
DanaGI'm guessing plymouth is trampling all over /dev/ttyS4.05:47
DanaGNot even logging into the local console and killing both getty and plymouthd, does it start working.05:48
lordduneHello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums05:49
lorddunei discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.05:49
DanaGI don't know offhand what "Tiger" is.05:49
lordduneit is a process included in the Ubuntu OS, can someone please glean some information on me05:50
cfhowlettlorddune, this looks better suited for #ubuntu-server05:51
WormFoodI thought "Tiger" was a brand of beer05:51
lorddunecfhowlett: why is that?05:51
lordduneno, Tiger is an auditing / security check process within Linux kernel05:52
DanaGSilly thing: I edited the gdm css file to remove that hideous noise texture (which made me think something was wrong with my monitor or video drivers!)...05:52
DanaG... and now gdm instead draws nothing.  So, you get a hall-of-mirrors effect with the login box.05:52
DanaGRather, it draws no background.05:52
cfhowlettlorddune, ah, ok.  nvrmind05:53
DanaGah, going to reboot... upgraded laptop to 13.04.05:53
lorddunecfhowlett: am I in the correct place to ask then?05:53
lordduneI've been trying to fix this for months now05:53
guest1hello there.05:53
guest1is there anyone can help?05:54
cfhowlettlorddune, couldn't hurt to ask in #ubuntu-server as they seem to have a whole lot of sysadmins and linux gurus ...05:54
cfhowlettguest1, ask ...05:54
lordduneok, i will wander over there05:54
guest1how to play .trp files in centos05:54
cfhowlettguest1, ask in #centos ... this is ubuntu05:54
guest1i installed vlc. but failed to play.05:54
guest1i know but same thing i think.05:55
cfhowlettguest1, centos is not supported here.  sorry05:55
guest1ok thanks.05:56
Guest22163hi, when i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 the installer doesn't show me the parition on my /dev/sda05:57
Guest22163is it normal? :|05:57
cfhowlettGuest22163, more details needed ... hardware?05:57
Guest22163hdd is seagate...05:57
Guest22163put in SATA3 on mainboard05:58
kingjagHey all I need some help i am trying to setup a pptp connection on my server so that i can connect through my server and have ALL traffic route through my dedicated server so that it looks like i am browsing the web right from my server i have pptpd installed and i can connect but i cant browse the web via that connection to my server05:58
cfhowlettkingjag, also ask in #ubuntu-server05:58
usr13kingjag: route05:58
lorddunecfhowlett: do you know the irc channel for linux kernel?05:59
Guest22163i have windows 7 pro installed already.05:59
kingjagmy version of ubuntu is not server i dont think05:59
Guest22163and wanted to install it next to win705:59
cfhowlettlorddune, so i don't not05:59
kingjaghow do i check what version of ubuntu i am running05:59
Guest22163cfhowlett: what kind of details do you need to help me?05:59
cfhowlettkingjag, yes, but your query is server directed?05:59
cfhowlett!details|Guest22163,06:00
ubottuGuest22163,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:00
cfhowlettkingjag, lsb_release -a   in  a terminal06:00
usr13kingjag: host av.com  #Any luck?06:00
kingjagDistributor ID: Ubuntu06:00
kingjagDescription:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS06:00
kingjagRelease:        12.0406:00
kingjagCodename:       precise06:00
dfreyI'm trying to debug an audio problem.  I do aplay -L and there are a number of devices listed.  One such example is "hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3".  Now when I do "cat /dev/urandom | aplay -D hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3", I get the error: "aplay: main:682: audio open error: No such device".  This seems odd to me because aplay itself just gave me the exact device name.  Any idea what is going wrong?06:01
usr13!paste |kingjag06:01
ubottukingjag: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:01
spydoncfhowlett: not necessarily, I think what he has problems with is routing the web traffic through his server. The server is probably set up right and he needs direction for how to do it on the desktop? Right kingjag?06:01
lorddune#kernelnewbies06:01
betrayddfrey  for the command use the same format for devices e.g. /dev/urandom,06:03
betrayder maybe use tab completion there ?06:04
dfreybetrayd: I'm pretty sure you are supposed to be able to use the devices listed by aplay -L06:06
sonofzeusHi there06:07
sonofzeusDo you guys know of a server IRC channel?06:07
betrayddfrey agreed, but still follow basic syntax rules...06:07
cfhowlett!server|sonofzeus,06:08
sonofzeusAnyone?06:08
ubottusonofzeus,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server06:08
icerootsonofzeus: #ubuntu-server06:08
sonofzeus#ubuntu-server06:08
icerootsonofzeus: /join #ubuntu-server06:08
Guest22163OK. I have a problem with installing Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. My processor is Celeron G550. After chooing a language there is a window with 'Installation type' title. When i'm trying to click Install Now there is an error "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the paritioning menu". There are no partitions visible in that window. When i'm trying to click 'Change' installer crash. when i'm clicking + there is a 'Sorry, Ubunutu 13 has experie06:09
sonofzeusYeah thanks06:09
dfreybetrayd: I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.  What is wrong with the syntax of the command I pasted?06:09
betrayddfrey maybe an escape is missing before the colon try \: sometimes single quotes work tht's why tab completion is preferred06:10
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aneksI'm guessing the bug where the lightdm background changes when you change the wallpaper hasn't been fixed in 13.04?06:15
aneksor doesn't change even*06:15
juniourHi in my system ubuntu 12.04LTS is installed but now 13.04 is released, can i go for update or i still use 12.04 ???06:16
icerootaneks: look at launchpad on that bug06:17
icerootjuniour: why you want to update?06:17
icerootjuniour: of course you can still use 12.04 until 201706:17
betraydjuniour: if graphics sound and wifi work, why bother06:17
juniouriceroot just for latest version, i know 12.04 is Lts(long term support)06:17
icerootjuniour: i dont see a reason for an upgrade when everything is working fine06:18
icerootjuniour: never touch a running system06:18
juniouriceroot yep everything is running fine,graphics wifi,bluetoothe etc06:19
icerootjuniour: then i would still use 12.04 (btw i am still using 12.04 on my main machine because its running fine)06:19
juniouriceroot humm....06:20
betraydjuniour: you can still come to irc us...06:20
aneksiceroot, the bugs on launchpad are related to the beta versions, it doesn't tell me if the issue has been resolved in the stable version (which obviously didn't happen)06:21
juniourbetrayd wt???06:21
betraydyou can visit without having problems06:21
betrayd=)06:21
Twenty-threehello, my upgrade to 13.04 was aborted towards the end (~60% of the progress bar) and i received a couple of error messages, after rebooting almost everything was working "normal" but i'm concerned about the abprted upgrade, is there a way to verify whether there is anything to be fixed?06:23
cfhowlettTwenty-three, don't upgrade.  clean install.  get the iso via torrents.06:25
Twenty-threecfhowlett, the upgrade seems to have succeeded as it displays 13.04 and i see some new UI features, i just wonder if there is a way to verify things are ok06:26
Biomechdso i'm trying to install a new font quick, but it's not showing up in libreoffice. anyone got a fairly quick fix?06:26
nic013need help with empathy!!06:27
juniourtwenty-three make backup and clean install again :)06:29
nic013guys, my facebook friends doesnt appear in the contact list in my empathy, i already tried re-installing06:29
Twenty-threejuniour, is there a way to verify whether i have broken packages?06:30
nic013can anyone help me?06:30
rocketnineI wrote a tutorial that applies to ubuntu, where can I submit it other than reddit?06:31
Twenty-threejuniour: the OS is behaving well so far, so i am not as keen on trying something that extreme, i only wish to know if i can verify whether i have a problem at all06:31
cfhowlettTwenty-three, try this: apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade.06:32
cfhowlettTwenty-three, that will put all 13.04 packages into your system06:32
icerootTwenty-three: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc06:32
Twenty-threenoted!, i'll go and try this right now, brb06:33
icerootTwenty-three: if there are no packages listed, everything is fine and no packages are broken after the upgrade06:33
Twenty-threethanks iceroot & cfhowlett06:33
cfhowletticeroot, nice one.  so an empty list means all packages present and accounted for?06:34
icerootcfhowlett: no outpout means everything is fine :)06:34
* cfhowlett Eric Cartman voice: Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!06:35
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Guest17248join /#c06:38
Guest17248how to switch to channle in irssi06:38
icerootGuest17248: /join ##c06:39
DanaGAnother problem I'm having: the gnome-documents tool does not start!06:39
DanaG      JS LOG: Unable to connect to the tracker database: TypeError: Tracker.SparqlConnection is undefined06:39
Guest17248iceroot: i ean to say that i have joined 2 channel how to switch between them06:39
icerootGuest17248: alt + channel-number   or alt + a to switch to the channel with the latest message, see also #irssi for helping with that client06:40
TakeItEZirssi.org/documentation06:40
Guest17248iceroot: Thanks06:40
Yoshieubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc06:40
corrupt-upgrade-all my data got wiped on upgrade06:45
cfhowlettcorrupt-upgrade-, you need a dedicated /home to prevent that06:46
SomeRandomDudeHey guys, there's a bit of a typo on the Ubuntu downloads page, for BitTorrent06:46
SomeRandomDudeYou will need to install a-bitTorrent client on your computer in order to enable this download method.06:46
corrupt-upgrade-cfhowlett, a known bug in the upgrade is ALL YOUR DATA GETS WIPED?06:46
corrupt-upgrade-what kind of OS upgrade feature is that?06:47
Yoshieubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc06:47
SomeRandomDude'a-bitTorrent' should read 'a BitTorrent'06:47
nirjhorhello06:47
Yoshiehello06:47
nirjhorI've installed hotot, in raring06:47
dn4is there a way to boot up off a usb drive for ubuntu; and then have the usb have the entire OS; and just save stuff to that usb?06:47
corrupt-upgrade-my /home was encrypted with ecryptfs06:47
corrupt-upgrade-http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607277/06:47
nirjhorbut it is not getting me to sign in06:47
iceroot!usb | dn406:48
ubottudn4: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent06:48
nirjhorthe screen is just blank06:48
SomeRandomDudedn4: Yes! That's a VERY common feature actually, and it's called a persistience file.06:48
icerootdn4: just install the system to the usb stick instead of the hdd06:48
cfhowlettcorrupt-upgrade-, let's not jump to conclusions quite yet.  I stated that a dedicated /home prevents data wipes on installation.  Should also work the the same way during upgrade06:48
SomeRandomDudedn4: The USB startup disk creator will automatically add one if you use it to prep a USB stick 2GB or larger06:48
nirjhorthere is one error ** (hotot:10999): WARNING **: Binding '<Alt>C' failed!06:48
dn4is the Persistent more secure; than say a full install on the usb ?06:48
corrupt-upgrade-MY DATA GOT WIPED ON UPGRADE -- END OF STORY. Be warned 13.04 users.06:48
icerootcorrupt-upgrade-: way to much text on that paste06:49
icerootcorrupt-upgrade-: you cant mount the luks partition anymore?06:49
SomeRandomDudedn4: A full install on the USB is a stupid idea in my opinion. I don't think it's more or less secure, but it's the right way to do it. The link iceroot triggered will have all the information you need, but I think you'll find that if you prep a drive with the USB Startup Disk Creator (a part of every Ubuntu install) should do what you need.06:49
SomeRandomDudedn4: To clarify, the persistience file is the right way.06:50
Yoshietest, can anyone see my txt06:50
SomeRandomDudeYoshie: Yes, we can see it just fine.06:50
Yoshiethank you06:50
dn4ok cool06:50
corrupt-upgrade-iceroot, dont think so since the kernel panic and file system became unreadable 50% into upgrade06:51
corrupt-upgrade-iceroot, how could i check?06:51
dn4since I don't have ubuntu my install method has being using dd06:51
yellabs-r2hi there06:51
DanaGgaah, stupid gnome-documents thingy.  DOES NOT FREAKING START.06:51
SomeRandomDudedn4: What exactly do you mean you don't have it?06:51
yellabs-r2does any one know where UDS in may 2013 is taking place ?06:51
corrupt-upgrade-iceroot, i know my disks are fine since windows 8 partion on same raid0 array still works great06:51
cfhowlettyellabs-r2, greetings06:51
dn4SomeRandomDude, I don't have that usb-creator program06:51
SomeRandomDudeyellabs-r2: If I recall correctly, they aren't doing UDS anymore.06:51
SomeRandomDudedn4: Hm... PenDriveLinux MIGHT have that feature as well, but I don't know...06:52
yellabs-r2are you sure ?06:52
cfhowlettyellabs-r2, virtual UDS unless announced otherwise06:52
yellabs-r2ah , really virtual , how cool is that06:52
yellabs-r2thats why i cant find a place .. on the website06:53
yellabs-r2LOL06:53
cfhowlettyellabs-r2, http://uds.ubuntu.com/06:53
yellabs-r2yes i found the website ,thanks , but on location, becuase of virtual attend ..06:53
yellabs-r2:P06:53
KommaHHey everyone, I installed gdm manually on my ubuntu without recommended packages. It seems as though I'm missing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. Without this config file, how am I supposed to adjust autologins?06:53
yellabs-r2thanks for the info,06:55
yellabs-r2have a nice day !06:55
DanaGSay, how do I remove the default lightdm wallpaper?  I want the default to be lack of wallpaper entirely.06:55
dengineПривет06:56
DanaGSo I get black fading to my user wallpaper, not black fading to lightdm wallpaper then to user wallpaper.06:56
bazhang!ru | dengine06:56
cfhowlett!ru|dengine,06:56
ubottudengine: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.06:56
ubottudengine,: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.06:56
cfhowlettbazhang, just a little slow today?06:56
cfhowlett:P06:56
bazhangcfhowlett, I was first, odd that the bot would do it twice though06:56
guest-aGTYEfUbuntu 13.04 AMD 64:  I upgraded to 13.04 but my login is faulty but the guest login is OK. Is there any way of fixing my login ?06:57
bazhangguest-aGTYEf, what do you mean by faulty06:57
cfhowlettguest-aGTYEf, "faulty"???06:57
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guest-aGTYEfbazhang: It loging to the Desktop with my work files but nothing else. So I cannot access my mail, pictures, music etc.06:59
faizulhi06:59
ppjdeesup all06:59
Biomechdokay, so both of my browsers are messing up and outputting boxes.07:00
Biomechdi tried running chromium and got an error and a segfault. i can paste it here if you want since i can't get to pasteall or anything.07:00
Magbedhi07:01
ppjdeehey07:02
Campfireanyone know where ubuntu server  support might be07:02
SomeRandomDudeI have a question regarding the downloads: Why is Canonical doing their level best to hide the Torrent downloads? Wouldn't that mean less load on the main download servers? I realize not everyone can figure out a Torrent client, but why not distribute a 50KB executable that torrents the file, a la Blizzard Downloader?07:02
guest-aGTYEfcfhowlett: the side bar does not show so I cannot access anything.07:02
Magbedagree random... took me a while to find the damm torrent07:02
SomeRandomDudeCampfire: Going out on a limb here and assuming there isn't a special server support channel (waiting for someone to jump out and correct me) but maybe if you posed your question here, I could help you. I've been fiddling with Server for a long time.07:03
Campfire:)07:03
Campfiremind if we talk about torrents07:04
wilee-nileeCampfire, #ubuntu-server07:04
SomeRandomDudeNot at all07:04
loofI am trying to install the edubuntu flavor of ubuntu 13.04 off a USB stick. when I select Install... it starts up X and as far as I can tell is acting like a live CD - not the install I'm used to from prior versions07:04
ppjdeehttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339 ubuntu forums server support07:04
MagbedJust installed 13.04 and "Additional drivers" doesnt show anything for my nvidia card (680GTX) happened to someone else or someone knows a fix?07:05
loofI'm not sure if something is wrong... or if I'm missing something obvious...07:05
loofThis is an older system, so without a bit of tuning X is a slideshow :P07:05
ppjdeeanyways to suppress the joining/leaving messages? its killing me brain07:06
juniourMagbed see on additional drivers07:06
cfhowlettppjdee, right click on the #channel then settings07:06
Campfirewhat are trackers just asking i read you can get faster downloads if you copy and paste the code in07:06
Campfirefor torrents07:06
Magbedjuniour thats the problem... its completely empty nothing to select there07:07
Magbeddidnt happen on 12.0407:07
juniourMagbed its compatiblity issue i think07:07
Campfirefor ubuntu torrents07:07
juniourMagbed y u upgraded??07:07
ppjdeecfhowlett where do i click?07:08
cfhowlettppjdee, right click on #ubuntu tab07:08
Campfiresomerandomdude  i sended it07:08
Magbedy not? =) shouldnt be fair to suppose that it should keep working07:08
Magbedif i didnt upgrade ill still be using 10.1007:09
Campfirei mean srd just a question up in text07:09
SomeRandomDudeCampfire: Trackers have more or less been outmoded. A tracker is a server you hit up for a list of other people in the torrent swarm; you then hit up each person in that list and begin the torrenting process.07:09
cfhowlett!paste07:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:09
juniourMagbed make a backup and clean install buddy :)07:10
SomeRandomDudeCampfire: It's since been replaced by a system called DHT, which means that everyone is the tracker, and no central infrastructure is necessary. A tracker is still nice, though, because it can save some time by just handing you a list of people to prime your DHT with07:10
Magbedthats what i did07:10
Magbeddidnt upgrade directly07:10
Magbedthats always a mess07:10
ppjdeeah k found it lol thanks cfhowlett07:10
juniourhummm..........07:10
Campfireoh ty srd07:11
juniourmagbed your wifi,bluetooth07:11
juniourare working07:11
juniour??07:11
SomeRandomDudeCampfire: I believe the torrent files available from Ubuntu.com contain tracker data, but the magnet URIs (What I believe you mean when you say copy and paste the code in) will suffice too, and will use the aforementioned DHT system07:11
Magbedim using ethernet and no bluetooth07:11
Magbedeverything else is working fine07:12
Magbedatm its using Nouveau drivers...07:12
MagbedGallium 0.4 on NVE407:12
Campfiresrd ok dht system whats that do07:12
bazhang!ot | Campfire07:13
ubottuCampfire: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:13
juniourmagbed can you see list of wifi network07:13
juniour???07:13
Campfireok no probs07:13
exiledMYBHey guys for some reason when I type in ifconfig, I am only gettin the "lo" interface07:13
Campfireis ubottu a bot07:13
exiledMYBThat is 127.0.0.1, and nothing else07:13
Magbedmotherboard doesnt have wifi its an asrock z77 extreme4 im on a desktop07:14
juniourohhhh07:14
bazhangexiledMYB, what does lspci and/or lsusb show as the nic07:14
exiledMYBI should also mention that I'm running a VM on Virtualbox, but I figured this is an Ubuntu issue07:14
juniourmagbed os its seem everything working fine man :)07:14
Magbedmust be a bug... already reported07:14
bazhangexiledMYB, ubuntu  is IN the vm?07:14
Magbedguess ill have to wait07:14
exiledMYBbazhang, ubuntu is THE vm07:15
Jordan_UexiledMYB: Have you added a network interface to the VM?07:15
bazhangexiledMYB, whats the host07:15
exiledMYBThe host is my win 7 desktop07:15
Jordan_UexiledMYB: As in, configured VirtualBox to give this virtual machine a virtual ethernet card.07:15
exiledMYByes, it is connected via Bridged07:16
bazhangexiledMYB, the vm wont use the hardware directly07:16
juniourexiledMYB in vm setting in network select bridge interface and reboot07:16
exiledMYBI'll try the reboot and see what happens, but I've been doing that all night :(07:16
juniourexiledMYB  dont reboot directly07:17
juniourexiledMYB can you go in vm setting07:17
Jordan_UexiledMYB: Can you try booting another OS in the same virtual machine, possibly a LiveCD of some sort? (preferably literally the same, not just another virtualbox VM)07:17
helmut_hi07:17
juniourexiledMYB you will see network, in network select bridged network then reboot07:17
exiledMYBJordan_U: I kinda don't have time for that right now because I don't have any other VM setup07:17
exiledMYBCurrently, my network is set to bridged, and I am going to reboot07:18
Jordan_UexiledMYB: You can't just pass an iso as the virtual CD and reboot?07:18
juniourexiledMYB if you follow me your problem will be resolved07:18
SomeRandomDudeexiledMYB: He means he wants you to literally use the exact same VM you're having trouble with07:18
exiledMYBjuniour, I'm trying. I hope it works :)07:18
juniourexiledMYB yes it will i think07:19
Jordan_UexiledMYB: I would be very surprised to find that support for VirtualBox's virtual ethernet hardware is anything but completely reliable and automatic, so I highly suspect that something isn't configured properly in VirtualBox.07:20
NickNefariousCan anyone tell me hoe to set up IRC for Empathy in 13.04?07:20
juniourexiledMYB you using vm ware or virtualbox???07:20
exiledMYBJordan_U, I was thinking the same thing. I'm using virtualbox07:20
Jordan_UNickNefarious: Empathy isn't a very good IRC client (most clients not dedicated specifically to IRC aren't).07:21
exiledMYBI've been having this problem for a while. Its just not consistent, idk whats wrong07:21
juniourexiledMYB you rebooted07:21
juniourA??/07:21
NickNefariousJordan I just use IRC for Ubuntu support occasionally...07:21
exiledMYBjuniour, yes not im about to log in07:21
juniourNickNefarious try pidgin07:22
exiledMYBjuniour, same problem my friend07:22
exiledMYBonly "lo" interface is up07:22
NickNefariousjuniour Empathy is pre-installed... so was hoping I could just use it....07:22
Jordan_Ujuniour: NickNefarious: Pidgin is also a poor IRC client, I highly recommend Xchat, irssi, or some other client dedicated specifically to IRC.07:23
juniourexiledMYB you runnig the os with iso or preinstalled image07:23
juniour???07:23
NickNefariousjuniour / Jordan Only problem is when I try to set up an account for IRC it opens the "Online Accounts" and there is nothing for IRC07:23
exiledMYBjuniour, I installed the os from iso, but after that I no longer needed it07:23
juniourNickNefari yep irssi is good i am currently using it07:24
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juniourexiledMYB can you share some screen shot of virtual box setting of network07:24
juniour?07:25
RainbowWhow do i trace the order in which apache is traversing vhost files to service a request? 10.04, apache is working but serving incorrect directories and i can't figure out why07:25
exiledMYBhow would I paste that on irc?07:25
Jordan_U!screenshot | exiledMYB07:25
ubottuexiledMYB: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.07:25
juniourexiledMYB follow ubottu07:25
exiledMYBk07:25
NickNefariousI tried installing Skype on Ubuntu 13.04 using Canonical Partner Repo and it doesn't work07:26
exiledMYBjuniour, actually my friend, I'm gonna call it a night for now. Thanks for your help though07:27
ppjdeeyou couldnt get skype installed on 13.04?07:28
juniourexiledMYB no problem you welcome07:28
juniour:)07:28
NickNefariousIt installed and the Skype logo appears in Dash but when i try to run it it does nothing07:28
ppjdeehm, i installed skype 4.1 a few hours ago and its working for me07:29
ppjdeehm, nvm its not working XD07:30
juniourNickNefari download skype from here http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/07:30
NickNefariousHow did you install? I installed like this - http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/07:30
ppjdeesudo apt-get install skype07:30
ppjdeejust upgraded to 3.9 kernel tho07:31
juniourNickNefari download the .deb from above site ,then dpkg -i xxxxx.deb07:31
NickNefariousHow can I remove everything that has been installed so far before installing from that source?07:31
juniourNickNefari apt-get remove package-name07:32
ppjdee^07:32
NickNefariousWhen I installed Skype it says there is a package no longer needed linux-image-generic and that I should autoremove this07:33
juniourNickNefari k07:33
icerootNickNefarious: you are on 12.04?07:34
junioursudo apt-get autoremove07:34
NickNefariousNo new install of 13.0407:34
icerootNickNefarious: dont remove that package. lets check first07:34
icerootNickNefarious: its a very important package (if no other kernel meta package is installed)07:34
hkehello. i apt-get installed package a and with it came dependencies b,c and d. how can i find out the name of package a if i only know b?07:35
NickNefariousSorry just auto removed... How can I get it back?07:35
icerootNickNefarious: dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^ii     please provide that output to pastebin07:35
ppjdeelol07:35
iceroothke: aptitude why packagename07:36
Senorwhere are  the grub boot command line parameters saved permanently?07:37
hkeiceroot: thank you.07:37
ShapeShifter499hi07:37
icerootSenor: /etc/default/grub07:37
ppjdeesup07:37
Yoshieubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc07:37
Senoriceroot: is there parameter like : root=...07:38
chaotixhi...  i just installed ubuntu 13.04, and after installing guake terminal i have discovered a bug, but am not really to sure how i am supposed to word it for the bug report...  the problem is that when not in fullscreen, guake is about 1/2 an inch too low at the top, leaving a half of desktop showing...  this was not the case in any previous versions of ubuntu as i have used guake in all of them...  but i suck at wording things offic07:38
chaotixially....  how should i say it07:38
Jordan_Uchaotix: Attach a screenshot to the bug report.07:38
Senoriceroot:I mean boot command line parameters07:39
Senorsuch as root=.... kernel =...07:39
chaotixJordan_U, will do07:39
icerootSenor: /boot/grub/grub.cfg   that will generated from /etc/default/grub07:39
kingjagok all i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS i am trying to VNC into my machine and upon connection i see a msg that says failed to load session "ubuntu" and then a button that just says Logout07:39
junioursenor for creating u have to type sudo update-grub07:39
ShapeShifter499so I have a chrooted ubuntu 9.04 on my android system and I installed xfce4, when I start it I get an error   "Could not lookup internet address for Nook-Ubuntu. This will prevent Xfce from operating correctly. It maybe possible to correct the problem by adding Nook-Ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts on your system.",   exactly what do I put in /etc/hosts?  and is that the chrooted hosts file or the one part of android?07:40
NickNefariousiceroot http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607481/07:40
Senoriceroot: if I boot from a grub.img file ,what is for that?07:40
juniourSenor when ever you make changes in /etc/default/grub must do sudo update-grub else no changes will be refelected07:40
icerootNickNefarious: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic   you need this package to get kernel updates in the future07:41
Senoriceroot: if I boot from a grub-rescue.img file , where it get the boot parameters?07:42
icerootSenor: dont know07:42
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NickNefariousiceroot Done07:42
srefonHi07:42
icerootSenor: but it sounds like a normal dd image07:42
RainbowWhow do i trace the order in which apache is traversing vhost files to service a request? 10.04, apache is working but serving incorrect directories and i can't figure out why. is it reading /etc/apache2/sites-enabled in alpha order? or some other order?07:42
NickNefariousiceroot How can I identify problem with Skype install?07:42
srefoni have a problem my motherboard broke and i migrated to an other manufacturer board but with same chipset and such but the system wont go into xwindows and on reboot or shutdown commands it hangs?07:43
Senoriceroot:just a rescue solution for grub bootloader07:43
kingjagok all i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS i am trying to VNC into my machine and upon connection i see a msg that says failed to load session "ubuntu" and then a button that just says Logout07:43
KakaduCan u point me a conference  to discuss ubuntu 13.04 Qt5 packages?07:44
juniourNickNefarious skype problem is resolved???07:44
kingjagi guess no one can help :-(07:45
NickNefariousjuniour No, but what was I to do to resolve it?07:46
juniourNickNefarious clean install of skype will resolve07:46
juniourNickNefarious i gave you the link to download the package07:46
NickNefariousjuniour So remove existing install and install again?07:47
juniouryep07:47
juniourNickNefarious wt you doing???07:48
NickNefariousjuniour I am in China - the Skype links redirect to a Chinese version called Tom Skype and I don't want to install it from there...07:50
NickNefariousjuniour That is why I was trying to use a repo...07:50
juniourohhh07:50
chaotixJordan_U, how should i word it in the summary?   "Guake terminal too low"?07:51
juniourk07:51
NickNefariousjuniour But maybe I'll just have to use VPN and download it on other system07:51
BigFisthi, I'm trying to change min password length in /etc/pam.d/common-password, I'm adding an option minlen=3 to pam_unix.so module, but it doesn't affect anything. When i go to users config, and enter short password for one user, i still get password too short07:51
NickNefariousjuniour so 'sudo apt-get remove skype' will remove all the packages it installed in the first place?07:52
juniourNickNefarious yep07:52
Jordan_UBigFist: What happens if you try to use "passwd" to change the password? (It might be that GNOME's users tool has additional restrictions)07:52
morgan_how do I fix my desktop handler? I removed nautilus and wanna use nemo instead. right now my desktop is just black :(07:52
BigFistit changes a password without anything07:53
juniourNickNefarious your system is 64 bit???07:53
btralhi07:54
BigFistJordan_U: but then on login screen I'm not asked for password for that user07:54
BigFist(??)07:54
BigFistthats confusing07:54
NickNefariousjuniour Yep 64bit07:54
BigFistwhom password did i just changed ... ?07:54
btrali installed clamav. i want to update it's signiture. how can i change mirrors in  /etc/clamav/clamd.conf07:54
btral?07:54
btralis it possible?07:54
juniourNickNefarious skype 4.1 is not avalibe for ubuntu 13.0407:55
Jordan_UBigFist: If you just ran "passwd" with no other arguments then it changed the password of the user you ran it as.07:55
juniourNickNefarious skype 4.0 is available07:55
ppjdee^07:55
tingjunagree with Jordan_U07:55
ppjdeejust updated and rebooted and found that out07:55
NickNefariousjuniour Sure. Where at? Skype website?07:56
juniourNickNefarious try this command to install skype07:56
kingjagok all i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS i am trying to VNC into my machine and upon connection i see a msg that says failed to load session "ubuntu" and then a button that just says Logout07:56
juniourNickNefarious sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"07:56
BigFistJordan_U: no of course I didn't do anything like that, it would ask me for my password anyway, i ran "passwd children"07:57
BigFistwhere children is obviously a user name07:57
juniourNickNefarious done above command07:57
juniourNickNefarious now sudo apt-get update07:58
Jordan_UBigFist: What did you mean by "whom password did i just changed"?07:58
juniourNickNefarious sudo apt-get install skype && sudo apt-get -f install07:58
ShapeShifter499Thats odd... placing my nook tablet near my trackpad on my laptop temporarily darkens the screen07:58
ShapeShifter499on ubuntu 13.0407:58
BigFistwell i received password was changed after calling above command and entering new password07:59
BigFistso i wanted to try this out, and switched user07:59
BigFist(to children user)07:59
BigFisti hoped it will ask me for password07:59
BigFistbut no, it logged me in, like there is no password07:59
NickNefariousJuniour That is how I installed it this time... without the -f arg07:59
juniourNickNefarious is that worked???08:00
rkhshmhow to i give normal user the right to mount disk drives?08:00
BigFistbut i received a command password was changed, so i wonder password for who? I have only two users on my machine...08:00
rkhshmi can only do it as root08:00
BigFistand mine is still the same08:00
juniourNickNefarious is skype working????08:01
NickNefariousJuniour No that was the way I installed it before and it wasn't working. But I didn't use the -f arg. Will that make a difference? It said it installed last time but it just wouldn't start08:01
BigFistmaybe ubuntu doesn't use /etc/pam.d/password-common ??08:01
BigFistI'm totally confused rigth now08:01
morgan_how do I fix my desktop handler? I removed nautilus and wanna use nemo instead. right now my desktop is just black :(08:01
juniourNickNefarious just give a try08:01
juniourNickNefarious with -f08:01
[deXter]morgan_, if you installed it correctly, nemo should automatically take over08:02
[deXter]morgan_, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-install-nemo-file-manager-in.html08:02
[deXter]morgan_, also http://askubuntu.com/questions/190529/how-to-completely-integrate-nemo-with-ubuntu08:02
[deXter]finally http://www.fandigital.com/2013/01/set-nemo-default-file-manager-ubuntu.html08:03
morgan_[deXter], that was the one I followed. my desktop still comes up black D:08:04
flameshello... anyone can help me about complie Sslsniff in ubuntu 12.1008:05
[deXter]morgan_, did you reboot afterwards?08:05
flamesi got error : make: *** [SSLConnectionManager.o] Error 108:05
morgan_[deXter], yes, many times08:05
NickNefariousjuniour Trying now...08:05
morgan_[deXter], as far as I can tell nemo is default, but i'm just getting the black desktop08:05
ppjdeejust tried that way juniour, got segmentation fault08:07
cloneGhello there I am using an ubuntu 12.04 and a NVIDIA Geforce 8800 GT card to use 3d acceleration I just installed bumblebee but it fails to start with the error: no integrated video card found, quitting any ideas?08:07
Ben64cloneG: why would you install bumblebee?08:08
BigFistI will ask different password08:08
NickNefariousjuniour That installed - skype (4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2) - and it finished install ok but it just won't launch08:08
BigFistHow can I totaly disable password restrictions in ubuntu08:08
Jordan_UcloneG: Are you sure that you have an integrated graphics card in addition to your separate dedicated Nvidia card?08:08
cloneGBen64 because without it I couldnt even start x08:08
cloneGJordan_U: I dont even know what an integrated card is08:09
Ben64cloneG: but bumblebee is for dual gpu systems, usually laptops. definitely not an 8800GT08:09
morgan_[deXter], the issue happened after I did: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false08:10
morgan_[deXter], when I did the next step: gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons true08:10
morgan_[deXter], it broke08:10
cloneGBen64: oh I didnt know, I just read it would help with nvidia driver config and I gave it a try08:10
[deXter]morgan_, Then just reverse it .. set the first one to true and the next one to false08:11
Ben64cloneG: you should read stuff more completely. you now need to remove bumblebee and install nvidia the correct way08:11
ppjdee@cloneG intergrated graphics means its built into the motherboard08:11
cloneGBen 64: the point is desktop is running now...though no 3d acceleration08:11
WhiskeyHow do i get tcllib to be installed for 1.608:11
Whiskey8.6, it has installed tcl8.6 and tcl8.6-dev but not the lib08:11
morgan_[deXter], oh that's smart, but, now does that mean nautalus or w/e is back to default and not nemo?08:11
morgan_[deXter], or does it not really matter for the desktop handler08:12
[deXter]yeah it doesn't matter08:12
morgan_ok ty!08:12
morgan_yep my desktop is back now woot08:12
morgan_[deXter], many thanks!08:12
[deXter]np :)08:12
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NickNefariousjuniour How/Where can i find a log or see what is going wrong when I try to launch Skype?08:13
BigFistit looks like its some sort of a bug (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343977)08:15
BigFistthis password len08:15
BiomechdNickNefarious: run it from the terminal. open a terminal and just input "skype"08:15
Reddy999Hi08:16
Reddy999Quick question on Ubuntu 13.04 boottime encryption ?08:16
Reddy999what impact does it have if I enable both boottime(full disk) and home encryption? is it suggested?08:17
NickNefariousjuniour Segmentation fault (core dumped)08:17
dechiHi, I'm a newbie on Ubuntu, and I try somme command lines. I can't copy a file in the parent file, What can I do08:18
dechi?08:18
NickNefariousjuniour Can I fix this problem by uninstalling skype again and then downloading the package directly from the skype website?08:18
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awaydechi, are you getting any errors?08:18
ppjdeeNickNefarious im having the same issue08:18
NickNefariousppjdee I though you said yours was working?08:18
ppjdeehours ago08:19
ppjdeei recently updated my kernel and some other stiff08:19
dechi<away> It saiys "XX it's not a file08:19
ppjdeestuff*08:19
Reddy999@Nick.. I did download Skype from http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/08:19
awaydechi, what is the exact command you are trying to use?08:19
Reddy999installs, and works without issues08:19
Jordan_Udechi: What do you mean by "copy a file in the parent file"? What command did you run, what did you expect it to do, and what did it do instead?08:19
Reddy999on Ubuntu 13.0408:19
dechi<away> cp08:20
NickNefariousReddy999 in 13.04 64 bit?08:20
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Reddy999yes08:20
awaydechi, the whole command08:20
Reddy999Ubuntu 13.04 64bit08:20
Omen_20Anyone else get nothing but issues from the upgrade? I can't even launch Startup Disk Creator to use for a fresh install.08:20
NickNefariousReddy999 Sweet... then that's what I'l do08:20
ppjdeeNickNefarious what kernel are you using uname -r08:20
PublicAffairsdoes anyone know how to print characters before a regex match, all the google results i have tried don't work08:20
m0lochCan anyone give me any pointers on how to get l2tp/ipsec working in 13.04 - worked fine in 12.1008:21
NickNefariousppjdee 3.8.0-19-generic08:21
Reddy999@Nick.. download .. choose distribution as Ubuntu 12.0408:22
Omen_20I just get "System program problem detected" for pretty much anything I do.08:22
NickNefariousppjdee Didn't yu say yu upgraded to 3.9?08:22
blazemoreOmen_20: As far as I'm aware, that's a normal part of the Ubuntu experience, at least it alwasy has been for me08:22
dechiAway, this my arborecent :"JdR/L5A/scenario", and I have a file named JdR in th dir scenario. I can't copy it  directly in the directory JdR with the command "cp JdR JdR/"08:22
Reddy999yes.. however, in that link, U13.04 is not an option yet08:22
dfreyI seem to have messed up my system pretty badly.  What is the blessed way to install the binary nvidia drivers in Ubuntu these days?  Like do I just install nvidia-current or do I have to install jockey or something else?08:23
Reddy999so download for U12.0408:23
Reddy999which works :)08:23
ShalokShalommoin08:23
blazemoredfrey: just use the included additional driver tool in Software Sources08:23
ppjdeeNickNefarious yes08:23
ShalokShalomwhy is it possible, to write backports for firefox, thunderbird and some other apps and not for all?08:23
dfreyblazemore: How do I get to "Software Sources"08:24
awaydechi, cp JdR ../../JdR08:24
blazemoreShalokShalom: It is *possible*, it just requires effort08:24
NickNefariousReddy999 Cheers, will do08:24
[deXter]ShalokShalom, Dependencies08:24
blazemoredfrey: System Settings -> Software and Updates -> Additional Drivers08:24
ShalokShalomthe API change too?08:24
dechiamay, ok, it works. Thanks a lot08:24
ShalokShalomso the libs gets changed?08:25
[deXter]yeah08:25
punterI have two applications that could display system tray icons in 12.10 but can't now (I have a fresh 13.04 install) - How do I make these apps have their icons appear? THey are: Pidgin and Smuxi08:25
ShalokShalomthanks08:25
punterThese apps still have options for displaying icons (and I have enabled them) but something in the OS is preventin them from displaying icons08:27
_zoom_hello guys08:28
NickNefariousThanks Reddy999 juniour iceroot08:28
_zoom_is it possible to configure pptp client using interfaces configs?08:29
dfreyblazemore: I don't have "Software and Updates" inside "System Settings".  There are a bunch of other icons under headings "personal", "hardware" and "system", but not the one you mentioned.08:29
ppjdeeguess something is f u on my comp, cant seem to get it running08:29
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_zoom_at the end i need to configure the pptp without network-manager08:30
m0lochxl2tpd broken?08:30
MonkeyDustdfrey  in a terminal, what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?08:31
sqrt7744Is it possible to add a bookmark to the side panel in the file manager?08:32
blazemoreShalokShalom: yes08:32
blazemoresqrt7744: yes08:32
dfreyMonkeyDust: 13.04, but as mentioned... my system is a bit messed right now08:32
MonkeyDustsqrt7744  try ctrl-d when you're in a folder08:32
ShalokShalomsqrt7744: witch filemanager?08:33
sqrt7744erm, nautilus, ubuntu 13.0408:33
blazemoresqrt7744: You can just drag it there08:33
sqrt7744blazemore, I tried that but it doesn't work08:33
sqrt7744Ctrl-d did it, thanks MonkeyDust08:33
baagiihi08:45
BlacktrayHi08:45
baagiihow are you? :P08:46
mac001hi to everybody08:46
PeterGriffinHi all. When I upgrade nvidia drivers, the display settings change to default. I expected to be asked if I want my old settings to be replaced, but it didn't happen. So I have to downgradein order to have my old settings. I really don't want to configure it again. What could I do to restore my old configuration?08:47
zivesterhow can i upgrade 12.10 to 13.04? apt-get dist-upgrade isn't giving me anything08:47
Jordan_U!upgrade | zivester08:48
ubottuzivester: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:48
MonkeyDustzivester  try do-release-upgrade08:48
zivestertx08:49
dfreyI have nvidia-310 installed and the drivers seem to work fine for the main kernel, but I have an older kernel installed as well and it seems that the nvidia driver isn't being installed into that kernel as well.  Is it possible to get it working with the older kernel?  The older kernel is 3.5.008:49
m0lochHey, can anyone tell me how to get xl2tpd/ipsec working again?08:55
m0lochOr at least to figure out what's wrong with it08:55
MonkeyDustm0loch  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong08:58
edd_Hey, sorry to bother you guys but i am really stuck, am a new user to ubuntu and cant get sound from my HDMI cable, ive tried all sorts of crazzy stuff nothing seams to work.....08:58
Moh2335strange08:58
Moh2335i do get sound from my hdmi08:58
edd_I dont :(08:59
IszakHas anyone got a guide for converting a hard drive from GPT to MBR via the command line?08:59
edd_I get picture....08:59
m0lochI was able to connect from my home computer to a VPS server.  The server was running ubuntu 12.10 - openswan l2tp/ipsec whatever version it had.  Followed some tutorial on the net, and it worked just fine.  Upgraded to 13.04 and now can't connect08:59
edd_In sound settings only internal speaker is listed lol, so its played from my laptop :S08:59
MonkeyDustIszak  http://johnlewis.ie/converting-to-gpt-in-ubuntu/08:59
Moh2335edd are you on 13.04?08:59
edd_Er :P sorta09:00
edd_I bailed half way through09:00
IszakMonkeyDust that's converting to GPT, not MBR.09:00
edd_couple of errors here an there now i need to redo it by not this week it was trying to remove wine :P my thesis is due wed :P09:00
edd_Boot ive had this problem since 12.1009:00
edd_but*09:00
Moh2335well edd now you say i haven actually tried my hdmi in 13.04 but in 12.10 it worked fine, but in the soundoptions the hdmi option isn listed there anymore....09:01
zachlattaWhat's the thing called in Ubuntu where I can push like Alt followed by ' followed by i to get í?09:01
edd_yeah Moh2335 mine never worked :)09:01
MonkeyDustIszak  how about this one http://blog.asiantuntijakaveri.fi/2012/07/converting-ubuntu-linux-with-gpt-system.html09:02
Iszakzachlatta accent shortcut?09:02
zachlattaThere's a specific name for it.09:02
zachlattaI used to have it binded to caps lock.09:02
zachlattaI can't think of what it was called though.09:02
zachlattaAnd I don't have Ubuntu next to me to check.09:02
Moh2335edd did you install the driver of your card which supports hdmi correctly?09:03
edd_I have intel Hd09:03
Moh2335ah09:03
edd_so its already present09:03
edd_plus i installed another one anyway09:03
edd_tried so much stuff to get it working09:03
zachlattaAh, it's the ComposeKey.09:03
Moh2335have you tried a clean intstall?09:03
edd_Cant do that :D09:04
Moh2335:P09:04
edd_It never worked out of the box anyway so clean instal wont work09:04
Moh2335oh09:04
edd_Moh2335: :D09:06
edd_Do u have intel card?09:06
IszakMonkeyDust following it, but i don't need to re-install grub or the kernal, this is a secondary hard drive.09:06
m0lochMonkeyDust: I was able to connect from my home computer to a VPS server.  The server was running ubuntu 12.10 - openswan l2tp/ipsec whatever version it had.  Followed some tutorial on the net, and it worked just fine.  Upgraded to 13.04 and now can't connect09:08
MonkeyDustIszak  that's beyond me -- put your question and the comment about kernel and secondary hard drive in one line a,d repeat it every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help09:08
Moh2335oh hey edd was gone09:09
edd_:D09:09
Moh2335uh no i have an hd radeon 5450 with hdmi :/09:09
edd_dam it09:09
edd_Anyone here have a Sony Vaio laptop with hdmi sound :P09:09
MonkeyDustm0loch  is it the server you upgrades to 13.04? if yes, consider asking in #ubuntu-server09:09
Iszakrunning 13.04 on a production server? ouch.09:10
m0lochMonkeyDust: Yes, I'll go ask.09:10
Moh2335edd09:10
edd_sup09:10
Moh2335try the hda-analyzer09:10
Moh2335it09:10
edd_What do i do?09:11
Moh2335changes like where the sound comes from (srry english is not my native :P)09:11
Moh2335wait i will send the link09:11
Moh2335http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/HDA_Analyzer09:11
edd_kk09:11
edd_ill give this ago09:11
edd_i aint seen this one before09:11
Moh2335btw do those commands with sudo :P09:11
edd_and i am on the verge of this now so it makes sense to try it09:11
edd_:P09:13
edd_Typed them all09:13
edd_wtf do i do with it :D09:13
Moh2335now you will see all kinds of pins09:13
Moh2335tot the left09:13
Moh2335click on them all and see if you can find the hdmi09:14
Moh2335one09:14
edd_brb ill pb09:14
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Moh2335oh by the way is your laptop model vaio sve14?09:15
edd_http://pastebin.com/vneKvYAC09:15
edd_er09:15
sp4ceDIm in ?09:16
OutcastAny Unity/Firefox Gurus here ?09:16
edd_pcg-719m11109:16
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MonkeyDust!ask | Outcast09:16
ubottuOutcast: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:16
Moh2335edd run it with sudo09:17
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Moh2335like sudo (the command)09:17
edd_all of it?09:17
Moh2335no the run09:17
Moh2335just the first 209:17
Moh2335srry forgot to say09:17
DanaG!find org.gnome.SessionManager.service09:17
ubottuPackage/file org.gnome.SessionManager.service does not exist in raring09:17
Outcastok.. I've upgraded to 13:04 and the Amazon icon within unity now takes me to Amazon.COM instead on.Co.Uk ... How do I change it back ?09:17
DanaG!find org.gnome.SessionManager.service precise09:17
edd_sudo et -O run.py http://www.alsa-project.org/hda-analyzer.py ?09:17
ubottuPackage/file org.gnome.SessionManager.service does not exist in precise09:18
Moh2335yeah09:18
Moh2335and then the 2nd one aswell09:18
MonkeyDust!find sessionmanager09:18
ubottuFile sessionmanager found in kdelibs5-dev, libkopete-dev, libqt4-dev, libqtscript4-doc, libqxt-dev, prosody, python-kde4-dev, python-pesto, python-qt4-dev, python-qt4-doc (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sessionmanager&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any09:18
Moh2335the first one is to install the program09:18
Moh2335the 2nd one runs the program09:18
edd_is sudo super user?09:18
Moh2335yes09:18
MonkeyDustedd_  it means switch user09:19
edd_ok :)09:19
Moh2335oh09:19
Moh2335lol09:19
Guest46315Hello! Please, how to install skype on Ubuntu ?09:19
edd_ok09:19
Moh2335Monkey dust whats the D then?09:19
edd_massive thing opened up :D09:19
MonkeyDustMoh2335  my mistake: su is switch user, sudo is super user do09:20
Moh2335ah :) good to know09:20
edd_It just opened something crazy looking and little scary09:21
Moh2335ahahah09:21
DanaGI usually do 'sudo -i', because 'sudo su' looks silly.09:21
edd_But cant see any hdmi options in here :S09:21
DanaGAnd redundant.09:21
Moh2335well click on the left on the pins09:21
Moh2335and nodes09:21
edd_There is milions :P09:21
SeveasDanaG: sudo su *is* silly :)09:21
Moh2335well you will have to read what it says09:21
Moh2335sometimes it says blue jack, pink or green, hdmi09:22
kblinhi folks09:22
edd_Well am just gona press shit :D09:22
Moh2335:P09:22
eos__hi all! Do you know of a client for ubuntu that allows you to post to twitter, identica, facebook, google+, etc.? If it does support also forums better ....09:22
kblinI'e got trouble printing to a network printer from my new 13.04 system, works just fine from the 10.04 system I also run09:22
eos__managing all these social networks has become impossible.09:22
kblinas far as I can see, the cups settings are identical09:23
kblinso I'm a bit stumped as to where the problem might be09:23
DanaGHDMI issues?  Two things to check: pavucontrol (pulseaudio volume control), and: do you have an ATI card?09:23
kblinany hints?09:23
Moh2335no dana he has an intel09:23
DanaGATI with the open-source drivers defaults to not actually passing the HDMI audio.09:23
Hans-MartinHi folks, I'm having problems with nouveau and wifi. It's clearly related to nouveau, as soon as I switch back to nvidia proprietary drivers wifi is working again.09:23
Moh2335oh dana could you take it over? i have to go :P09:23
srefonwy oh why wont this stupid board reboot09:24
DanaGSame here, actually.  2:30 AM.09:24
cloneGBen64: I purged bumblebee but now ubuntu graphic environment   wont start: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/09:24
Seveaskblin: what's the problem? What does /var/log/cups give you?09:24
edd_HDMi mute?09:24
edd_Ill untick that09:24
DanaGHah, for me, nvidia's Optimus doesn't even work IN WINDOWS!09:24
Hans-MartinI remember trying nouveau a long time ago and giving up due to the same problem, looks like it has not been fixed in 13.0409:24
kblinSeveas: the problem is that my jobs aren't printing09:24
edd_Right i pressed lots of shit :D09:24
edd_Lets see if it works09:24
DanaGAt least, on the thinkpad my workplace gave me.09:24
IdleOne!language | edd_09:24
ubottuedd_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.09:25
Seveaskblin: do they disappear or are they queued? If they're queued, maybe cups has paused the print queue?09:25
cloneGBen64: the log file says it failed to initialize NVIDIA GPU09:25
Moh2335edd09:25
edd_nope:(09:25
kblinSeveas: the log has tons of lines like E [27/Apr/2013:11:20:16 +0200] [Job 7] Unable to get printer status09:25
Moh2335find the pin called 0x5809:25
cloneGBen64: any idea?09:25
Moh2335that has to be the hdmi one09:25
FlohackGood Morning09:25
edd_not there09:25
Moh2335oh09:25
Moh2335dang it09:25
FlohackAnyone here who can help with initramfs issues?09:25
DanaGOh, and random other tidbit about the thinkpad: it LOCKS UP if you have Optimus enabled and try to boot Linux.  Nouveau must be horribly unhappy.09:25
OutcastG'morning Flohack09:26
DanaGMy solution: Just disable the NVIDIA chip.  Now the laptop is cool and quiet.09:26
jhenkehi, is the problem with the number of unread messages on the thunderbird icon already known? I filed a bug about it shortly after upgrade to 13.04 but no reaction until now09:26
Flohackupdate-initramfs fails with smth like cannot create directory .. file exists?09:26
Seveaskblin: that sounds like communication with the printer is borked. Can you share /etc/cups/printers.conf from both computers?09:26
kblinSeveas: they jobs are stuck in the queue saying "processing"09:26
ibboTOn the installer for 13.04, when partitioning, which is the current partition and which will be the new partition? Is the current one the left or right side?09:26
edd_fml09:26
kblinsure, hang on, I need to install pastebinit first :)09:26
Moh2335wait edd09:27
kblinI hate new systems...09:27
Moh2335:P09:27
Moh2335maybe 0x0409:27
Moh2335it your pastebin it says that your hdmi is that one09:27
edd_found09:27
Moh2335ok09:27
Moh2335now is it out?09:27
edd_no09:27
Moh2335change it from in to out09:27
Outcastok.. I've upgraded to 13:04 and the Amazon icon within unity now takes me to Amazon.COM instead on.Co.Uk ... How do I change it back ?09:28
edd_there is no in and out09:28
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edd_Just emphasis enable, copyright blah blah blah09:28
Moh2335are there any selectable options?09:28
dechiHow do I know my desk version09:29
dechi?09:29
* DanaG curses Unity for having non-disable-able fades.09:29
edd_yeah them ones09:29
edd_i pressed enabled but that did fack all09:29
edd_maybe i need to clock it09:29
edd_close*09:29
Moh2335edd09:29
Moh2335could you post a picture09:29
cloneGhello I am having this error with Xserver in ubuntu 12.04: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/09:29
Flohackanyone interested in strange initramfs problem? See http://pastebin.com/HSU0a7g409:29
kblinSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607727/ <-- new printers.conf  and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607733/ <-- old printers.conf09:30
edd_ok09:30
edd_Want me to get teamviewer instead :P09:31
Moh2335would be better :P09:31
edd_Ok09:31
edd_Do we have this for unbuntu :P09:31
Moh2335edd yes09:31
Moh2335on their site09:32
ibboTok, found my answer, Ubuntu is on the right09:32
edd_love it when that happens :D09:32
eos__hi all! Do you know of a client for ubuntu that allows you to post to twitter, identica, facebook, google+, etc.? If it does support also forums better .... (I got disconnected)09:32
edd_wish everything would support it09:32
edd_apart from the hdmi crap its excellent :D09:32
edd_INSTALLING09:33
DanaGYou know what's totally awesome about Intel graphics?  Given a _pro_ laptop with vPro, it has a HARDWARE VNC SERVER.09:33
edd_ILL pm u09:33
hydrox24I'm having trouble with samba mounts, I've been looking online for ages but no matter what I do I get an error 13 while trying to mount a windows mount.09:33
edd_dont want everyone having me codes :D09:33
DanaG... which is completely awesome.09:33
Moh2335hahah09:33
hydrox24DanaG: You should probably go to #ubuntu-offtopic09:33
hydrox24!offtopic09:33
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:33
Ben64hydrox24: and error 13 is... ?09:33
dechiNo idees ?09:33
hydrox24Permission denied.09:34
hydrox24Full error is as follows:09:34
Ben64hydrox24: what command are you using to mount09:34
hydrox24mount error(13): Permission denied09:34
hydrox24Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)09:34
hydrox24sudo mount -t cifs //BAINTONS/Music /mnt/iTunes -o guest09:34
DanaGAnyway, I was going to ask about getting the darn gnome-documents thing to work with the PPA version of gnome... but found it was just plain broken.09:35
adrenalinkcan please someone explain me how the startup of a Gnome Session works? (x server, login manager, etc...) _ Thx09:35
hydrox24I've tried using the desktop's IP but that didn't help.09:35
DanaGRolled back to the regular gnome3 ppa (versus 'staging'), and now it works.09:35
kblinSeveas: I fail to spot major differences09:35
Ben64hydrox24: doesn't look like right syntax to me09:35
hydrox24adrenalink: You might be able to get some more help with that (if no-one here knows) by going the linux channel. #linux09:35
kblinSeveas: and I can reach the system the print server is installed on just fine, even on port 63109:35
hydrox24Ben64: example taken from the man page: mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt --verbose -o user=username09:36
Ben64yet you have -o guest09:36
cloneGhello nvidia Geforce 8800 GT under Ubuntu 12.04 GPU fails to initialize: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/09:37
dn4what is a good size for a swap space09:37
Jordan_Udn4: Do you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate)?09:37
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eos__dn4: I go for 2xRAM + 10%09:37
hydrox24Ben64: it's a valid option to set it so that there aren't any security credentials.09:37
dn4Jordan_U, I don't care really09:38
hydrox24Ben64: Which is how I've setup my windows share.09:38
Ben64hydrox24: well you have an authentication problem, so you need to recheck all that09:38
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MonkeyDustdn4  if you plan to hibernate/suspend alot: use twice the RAM size for swap09:39
CQwhere are the files from a release-upgrade kept?09:39
hydrox24Ben64: I'm clear that it's telling me that there's and auth problem but I've tried 10s of combinations of usernames and domains and whatnot.09:39
dn4MonkeyDust, what happens if I don't have that at all ?09:40
Jordan_Udn4: Then it doesn't matter much. You'll probably want at least a GiB of swap just in case you really do start exhausting your RAM (which shouldn't happen often).09:40
Ben64hydrox24: windows isn't accepting the username/password combo you're using. windows doesn't play nicely09:40
hydrox24Ben64: I've tried the command from multiple ubuntu laptops on the network too, each running a different version of ubuntu.09:40
hydrox24Ben64: any ideas on where to look in windows for clues then?09:40
kblindn4: I've got 265 gb ram number crunchers where I never bother to set up swap09:40
Ben64nah, haven't used windows for a decade09:40
DanaGEvent Viewer -- eventvwr.msc09:41
Jordan_Udn4: Without swap, if you run out of RAM then the kernel's OOM killer will kill processes until you do have available RAM.09:41
kblindn4: that's fine if you never expect to run out of ram09:41
TakeItEZdn4: you always can add a swapfile later, if you really need some swap09:41
DanaGSpeaking of RAM and swap: I'd rather have things CRASH than have the whole system grind to a halt, swapping.09:41
DanaG... in situations of something devouring memory.09:41
Jordan_Udn4: With swap, if you run out of physical RAM then the kernel will start using swap, and by that time you should hopefully notice that something is wrong and fix it before your swap fills up as well (which should take longer, given that disks are slow). If you run out of RAM and swap, you're back to the OOM killer.09:42
Jordan_UDanaG: You can always alt+sysrq+F (to manually trigger the OOM killer).09:43
dn4what is OOM killer ?09:43
MonkeyDustout of memory09:43
Jordan_Udn4: Out Of Memory killer, again it kills processes (in a not very nice way) to free memory.09:44
cristian_cHi09:45
cristian_cI can't browse my android device via bluetooth09:45
cristian_cI've found 'Browse Files on Device'09:45
dn4hmm does ubuntu have macbook pro fan support09:45
cristian_cbut I get an error09:45
cristian_cAny ideas?09:45
Jordan_Udn4: The fans in Macs are controlled by the firmware, so even if the OS knows nothing about them they will still run when things start getting hot. There  is also support for telling the firmware to increase the fan speed (or decrease it, though that's not recommended), but I don't know what percentage of models are supported.09:47
lolmausTrying to run Ubuntu 13.04 x64 on VirtualBox. Installed fine, installed guest additions fine. But i'm stuck with 1024x768 screen resolution. Is there a way to make guest resolution comply with VirtalBox window size? Or at least set the resolution manually?09:49
srefoneny one can help with a broken xserveR?09:51
srefonhelp09:53
Ben64srefon: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." And don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/09:54
Outcastok.. I've upgraded to 13:04 and the Amazon icon within unity now takes me to Amazon.COM instead on.Co.Uk ... How do I change it back ?09:56
srefonI have ubuntu 12.10 i had a gigabyte motherboard with amd apu e350 integrated radeon 6310 and i got a  replacement asrock motherboard with the same apu and grapchic but now ubuntu wont boot into grapchil mode and the setup for 13.04 wont boot either09:57
Walexsrefon: that's somewhat unlikley, unless the integrated radeon has a slightly different version number.09:59
Walexsrefon: in any case you can start figuring things out by choosing text mode.09:59
* tali just got banned from #politics ... what's up with that!09:59
srefonim in text mode but the output of xorg.log dosent tell me a thing09:59
srefonwhen i try to update a package i get thet no updates are avalible10:00
srefoni had the xorg edgers ppa enabled10:00
Walexsrefon: the autoconfig stuff for the GUI relies on chip ids, so if the chip id is not one of the "known" ones it won't autoconfigure.10:00
MonkeyDustsrefon  ppa's are not supported here, better ask the maintainer10:00
srefoni only say i have it added because that may be reveland10:00
Jordan_Utali: This is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu technical support discussion. Please stay on topic.10:01
onrOutcast: i'd look at its .desktop file in /use/share/applications10:01
srefonand i have a second problem when i try to restart or shutdown the board hangs the screen is balck and nothing happens10:01
Walexsrefon: and the PPA should be fairly recent. Is that the 'ubuntu-x-swat' repot?10:01
Walexsrefon: and the PPA should be fairly recent. Is that the 'ubuntu-x-swat' repo?10:02
srefonyap10:02
Walexsrefon: that's "almost" official.10:02
Walexsrefon: if you are really desperate you can always use the VESA or FB driver...10:02
srefonWalex: when i tried vesa the system hung and i couldent get even an x.org log10:03
Walexsrefon: that's extremely bizarre.10:03
Walexsrefon: however in text mode try....10:03
Walexsrefon: 'lspci | grep -i vga' and then 'spci -n | grep XXX' where XXX is the first column of the output of the previous command10:04
TimvdeAt this moment, I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 using gnome-panel. I read gnome-panel isn't supported anymore in Gnome 3.8, which Ubuntu 13.04 is using. What will happen when I upgrade?10:04
Walexsrefon: that will tell you is the graphics ID code.10:05
srefonbrb10:05
Campfirehell o10:06
Campfiremy bad bring on ubuntu10:07
Walexsrefon: for example my output is "01:00.0 0300: 1002:94b3" and the chip code is "1002:94b3"10:07
srefonspci not foun10:08
srefonfound*10:08
Walexsrefon: "lspci" oops10:08
Outcastonr thanks .. I'll try that10:09
srefonok got it10:10
MonkeyDustTimvde  just installed gnome-panel and am using it now, ok, looks a bit like gnome210:10
MonkeyDustTimvde  in the LightDM menu, it's called Fallback10:11
TimvdeMonkeyDust: So Ubuntu is still shipping it in 13.04? Awesome, thanks :) Upgrading tomorrow ^^10:11
srefonso Walex what should i fo with it?10:12
srefon1002:980210:12
Walexsrefon: a web search, and/or compare with the codes in the 'Xorg.log'.10:12
srefonsome old bugs popped but nothing reveland10:13
srefonthing is why the installation of 13.04 hangs10:13
MonkeyDustTimvde  note: when I try to open a folder from the Fallback menu, it opens Totem mediapayer, so not Nautilus filemanager10:13
Walexsrefon: the old bugs seem to provide a few workarounds...10:14
TimvdeMonkeyDust: What? O.o But I guess I can fix that somewhere... *sigh*10:14
Walexsrefon: it looks like there are bugs in 3D accel support with that chip. And perhaps using a newer kernel would help, e.g. from backports.10:15
srefoni had a backportted 3.7 kernel10:15
srefon3.7.0-7-generic10:15
Walexsrefon: ahhhh. Perhaps then try to do the opposite. Sometimes bugs happen on *newer* stuff that is not yet tested on all chip variants.10:16
srefonprobably10:16
srefonsecond problem is i disabled all the update options in software center and probably that now emerged as i cant install enything with dependecies with apt-get10:17
srefoni get that cant find dependecy package10:17
Walexsrefon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1069353 seems a bit relevant too10:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1069353 in linux (Ubuntu) "1002:9802 graphics driver does not load on boot Radeon HD 6310" [Medium,Invalid]10:17
MonkeyDustTimvde  and when returning to Unity after Fallback, my launchbar is set back to default10:17
Walexsrefon: I do all updates carefully with 'aptitude' that usually helps see dependencies and/or select manually specific verions of specific packages for cases like this.10:18
TimvdeMonkeyDust: Not planning to use Unity :) I might give it another try in next LTS, but not sooner10:18
Outcastonr .. I did as you suggested but couldn't really change anything..BUT.. It now points to where it should.. So.. Problem solved.. Thankyou10:18
shmooncurious regarding something, how can i mount a partition as /home ?10:19
shmoonso there's a partition which is empty, i mount it as /home10:19
Walexshmoon: that's fine.10:19
shmoonWalex: ? what command ?10:20
Walexshmoon: 'mount' or you edit the relevant line in '/etc/fstab'10:20
shmoonmount /dev/sda9 /blaster mounts /dev/sda9 FS to /blaster , but i want to do it like /dev/sda9 is empty so any contents of /blaster becomes available in that device, do i make sense?10:20
srefoni still wonder why my gigabyte motherboard worked like a charm10:21
Walexshmoon: BTW having separate filesystems for '/' and '/home' is a nice idea so you can update the system being used.10:21
shmoon:D10:21
Jordan_UWalex: shmoon: You don't need a separate /home/ partition to update, or upgrade, or re-install Ubuntu while preserving /home/.10:21
shmoonyeah was thinking, so mounting /home to a new unused partition how'd that bedonme?10:22
shmoonbe done*10:22
Jordan_Ushmoon: First you'd need to copy the current contents of /home/ to the new filesystem.10:22
Walexsrefon: it probably had a slightly different graphics chip. Or perhaps there is a bug triggered by some other chip driver, or some BIOS setting.10:22
WalexJordan_U: it is not necessary but it gives a lot more options.10:22
shmoonJordan_U: what command helps doing that?10:23
onrOutcast: you're welcome :)10:23
shmoonJordan_U: so basically write to disk block by block ?10:25
srefonbut why i t wont restart?10:28
srefonwill now reastar and nothing happens10:28
Jordan_U!separatehome | srefon10:28
ubottusrefon: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving10:28
sanchezremiUbuntu snake10:28
srefonda fuk10:29
Jordan_U!language | srefon10:29
ubottusrefon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.10:29
srefonsorry10:29
srefongot hit by electricity10:29
shmoonbasically my question is, if i have /hoe and an empty partition I want to make that empty partition mount as /home10:32
shmoonor lets say /home is running out of space i add in another Hard disk and use that as /home something along those lnes, how is it done ? I guess plain simple mount command wont help[10:32
Dr_willisshmoon,  you can move specicic users to the other partition and link them to your /home if you want to use both.10:32
Dr_willisshmoon,  or move all of the current home to the new partion, then mount it to  /home10:33
Jordan_Ushmoon: Or you can just link individual directories, like ~/Videos, so that they are stored on your other drive.10:34
shmoonDr_willis: how do i move all /home to new partition?10:34
Dr_willissame as you copy/move files from any other directory10:35
Jordan_Ushmoon: See the link from ubottu.10:35
shmoonoh i see, i thought partiitons are device files i guess so cp/mv wouldn't work10:35
Dr_willisshmoon,  you MUST mount the filesystem to copy stuff to it10:35
shmoonJordan_U: where?10:35
Dr_willisa partiton is a device :)10:36
Jordan_U!separatehome | shmoon10:36
ubottushmoon: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving10:36
Dr_willisif your current home is on its own partion you could clone it to a new partition10:36
georgihello10:39
georgimy question is about evolution mail10:39
shmoongot it thanks10:39
georgiI don't see reminders even though I have set such10:39
georgican you help me with that10:39
georgihellooooooooooooooooo10:40
sw0rdfishhey, how does cloud storage work? if I sync a folder to the cloud, are the contents of the folder uploaded to the cloud?10:47
Dr_willisyes sw0rdfish10:47
sw0rdfishyeah I thought so... so I'll just use sftp for now cuz the folder/directory is a bit too big.10:48
Lucas_i want to send an email on my website from random-email@random.com to my gmail address without it being sent to the spam folder. Ideas? using sendmail?10:52
Moh2335!offtopic10:54
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:54
Moh2335Guys how do i switch channels in Xchat?10:54
Moh2335I want to go to offtopic10:54
Dr_willis /join #foo10:54
Dr_willisxchat had some nice help docs/mauals on irc at one time.. (check its help menu)10:55
llutzLucas_: add a spf-entry to your servers dns, setting your mailserver as an authorized sender for mail from random.com10:55
Moh2335thank you guys :P10:55
magpiiwhats the command to register my password and email on freenode?10:55
llutz!register10:56
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode10:56
Lucas_llutz, random.com is random, not always the same domain.10:56
llutzLucas_: then you cannot, since that always will be handled as spam (for a good reason)10:56
magpiiwhat does eronious nicknmae meen?10:57
llutzLucas_: domain-misuse isn't fun10:57
MonkeyDustmagpii  it means wrong or invalid nickname10:57
magpiierronious nickname10:57
magpiihow can it be wrong or invalid? its my nickname10:57
MonkeyDustmagpii  better ask in #freenode10:58
Parhsweed10:58
n73950skank10:59
pdors!list11:00
ubottupdors: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:00
exit(-_-Lol11:01
pdors!lista11:01
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exithawo do you finde firefox ? stabile ?11:04
Dr_willisexit,  huh? Firefox runs fine on ubuntu11:05
exiti run pyngui os 12.0411:06
exitshell11:06
cristinahello11:06
exitubuntu11:06
Dr_willisPinguy is not Ubuntu. and has its own support channels. check its web site.11:06
exiti know11:06
pdors!lista11:07
Dr_willis!list > pdors11:07
ubottupdors, please see my private message11:07
DJones!oiracy > pdors11:07
DJones!piracy > pdors11:07
Draxelisnautilus on ubuntu 13.04 has a problem. Try making a link to a folder on another hard drive/ partition, restart OS and see what happens with those links  (shortucts) - nautilus crashes!11:08
samijam!piracy11:08
ubottupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o11:08
samijam!o4o11:08
ubottuSome topics are controversial and often end in negativity. Take care on subjects like war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide. The topics are not banned; stating your position is ok, but trolling, baiting, hostility or repetition are not. If you are asked to stop, do so politely. Disputes to !appeals, please adhere to !freenode Policy and the !CodeOfConduct11:08
exitbut all is linux well11:08
Draxelisnautilus on ubuntu 13.04 has a problem. Try making a link to a folder on another hard drive/ partition, restart OS and see what happens with those links  (shortucts) - nautilus crashes!11:08
Moh2335Hey guys, is it just me or does everyone get mouse lagg while playing counter strikie source native steam11:09
Dr_willisexit,  if you have a actual Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it.11:09
MonkeyDustexit  type /join #pinguyos11:09
samijamis this "o4o" an acronym?11:09
Dr_willisif you want PinGuy support see the channel given above11:09
exitthanks11:09
MonkeyDustsamijam  it means off-topic for off-topic11:09
Moh2335is this offtopic?11:10
samijamMonkeyDust, thanks11:10
samijamMoh2335, no.  I just saw it from the bot. it's not related to your question11:10
killerhey11:10
Moh2335Oh lol :P11:10
Moh2335so no gamers here?11:11
killerlike google chrome is there any problems related to vmplayer installation in 13.0411:11
Dr_willis'like google chrome' ?   Google chrome works fine here..11:11
Dr_willis!vmplayer11:11
Dr_willis!vmware11:12
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware11:12
ThorHave there been changes to the way network config works in 13.04? my server doesn't seem to set up DNS correctly, even when setting dns-nameservers 192.168.88.35. there is no setting applied in /etc/resolv.conf and it can't resolve any urls11:12
auronandace!resolvconf | Thor11:12
ubottuThor: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution11:12
DJones!steam | Moh2335 You may get some response to that question here,11:12
ubottuMoh2335 You may get some response to that question here,: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.11:12
Moh2335Djones and ubottu thanks11:13
bonhoefferi lost the bar at the top of my screen -- any way to restore it?11:13
Thorauronandace: if you read what I said I said it doesn't apply *anything*11:13
Moh2335!steam11:14
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.11:14
exiti find i run ubuntu-linaro version11:24
mintinstalling ubuntu, should I keep / and /boot on separate partitions?11:25
vramanaI have recently installed gnome 3.8 but I didn't like I wanted to remove it by  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65200/remove-gnome-shell-completely-after-installing-it  and even this Accidentally I removed NitroTasks software11:26
vramanaI think I might have removed some other programs as well11:26
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vramanaIs there any way to remove all other packages other than default ones that comes with Ubuntu 13.0411:27
vramana??11:27
onrvramana: i would use /var/log/dpkg.log11:30
vramanaonr: What should I do??11:31
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sdofmhi11:31
sdofmwhere can get script for remove Ubuntu copyrights in distro please?11:32
usr13vramana: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39658/how-to-uninstall-all-but-the-default-ubuntu-packages11:32
MonkeyDustsdofm  what copyrights would that be?11:33
sdofmhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213857611:34
sdofmthis script need for change title of OS11:34
sdofmfor new OS based on Ubuntu11:34
sdofmhelp please11:35
sdofm^^11:35
MonkeyDust!uck | sdofm11:36
ubottusdofm: uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/11:36
sdofmMonkey this util can remove copyrights?11:37
sdofmread theme plz on forum11:37
sdofmguy said need remove it all11:37
sdofmlogos and "Ubuntu" in names11:38
sdofmand icons...11:38
usr13sdofm: Can't you just start from a Debian base?11:38
vramanausr13: This command comm -3 <(cat filesystem.manifest | awk '{print $1}' | sort) ........ The terminal is saying11:39
vramanacat: filesystem.manifest: No such file or directory11:39
vramanacat: filesystem.manifest-remove: No such file or directory11:39
usr13sdofm: Looks to me like Ubuntu leaves the "Debian" stuff there.11:39
sdofmwhy debian? i want use Ubuntu repos11:39
onrvramana: "2013-04-26 00:42:20 status installed gnome-menus:amd64 3.6.2-0ubuntu1" is the latest event while installing ubuntu, according to my log. i'd remove everything below11:39
vramanaonr: After that what should I do??11:41
sdofm:(11:41
usr13sdofm: So where would the Trademark policy's be?11:42
sdofmnoone not  can help?11:42
usr13I don't even know....11:42
sdofmhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213857611:42
onrvramana: why don't you just reinstall ubuntu?11:42
sdofmI do not know how to find all copyrights.11:43
vramanaI have Installed my present ubuntu inside windows and My windows startup is not working11:44
vramanaSo I have to format everything I have got to install it11:44
vramanaI am a little scared to do it I can reinstall but if there is no other way of reverting back11:45
Riccardoio ubuntu o xubuntu?11:45
Riccardoubuntu o xubuntu11:45
sdofmbb :(11:45
onrvramana: your GRUB list doesn't have Windows?11:45
sdofm#ubuntu-ru11:46
Riccardoubuntu?11:46
Riccardoubuntu11:46
MonkeyDustRiccardo  how can we halp you?11:46
vramanaonr: I boot through Windows Grub is not my default boot loader11:46
MonkeyDusthelp*11:46
vramanaand When try to start windows it is saying windows Startup recover11:47
Riccardohelpyes11:47
vramanaand is never finishing11:47
Riccardoim is italian11:48
MonkeyDust!it11:48
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)11:48
Riccardook11:48
onrvramana: it seems unrelated to packages installed in ubuntu. i don't know why windows starts startup recovery11:49
vramanaIt is because I didn't shut it down properly sometimes It happened in past once and now it is happening again11:50
bandit22has anybody had trouble with firefox & chromium crashing frequently on ubuntu 12.04?11:53
vooze13.04: So after tweaking some bumblebee settings I cannot login to unity. Its just the wallpaper and nothing else. (guest user works fine with unity) and my user works fine with gnome-shell and gnome fallback. What could I have done to cause this? I even tryed reinstalled unity package etc.11:54
DevilBoyso first hello every one, did any one use VMware workstation on ubuntu and is it stable please?11:56
usr13I have a problem:  I'11:56
MonkeyDustDevilBoy  there's virtualbox11:57
usr13I have a problem:  I'm getting "New release '12.10' available." but I'm set to LTS  Why is this?11:57
BluesKaj_Howdy all11:57
thrillERboyHi, I have nvidia 610m card, but it is not detected by the Ubuntu 13.04 I think, I've installed bumblebee. but still the ubuntu is using Intel sandybridge drivers.11:57
usr13tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades reveals "Prompt=lts"  (Is there more to it than that?)11:58
voozethrillERboy,  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html read that under bumblebee11:58
Dan-EInstalled Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???12:02
usr13sdofm: Do you have a name?12:04
usr13(for new distro)12:04
thrillERboyusr13, you must have enabled a setting to show non-LTS updates as well, you can disable it under - Ubuntu software center > Edit > Software sources > updates > Notify me of new ubuntu version > set that to "for long term support versions only"12:06
pac1I have a desktop icon that I want to launch a script in my home directory.  When I specify the command in the launcher as $HOME/my_script it does nothing.  if I hard code the home directory it works.  Why is that.  Is there a way to use an environment variable in a desktop icon's command?12:09
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Guest7464YO im greatly dissapointed, because ubuntu 13.04 wont load after formatting drive. I had Win7. halp PLZ.12:12
Guest7464it says "Disk not found", "No media" "Nothing to boot with"........../ afk12:14
pac1Guest7464, did you use the whole disk, or just part of it, keeping windows 7?12:15
usr13thrillERboy: That's just it, it's already set to "long term support versions only".12:17
usr13tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades reveals "Prompt=lts"12:17
thrillERboyusr13, Sorry, I only know that part :)12:18
UbuntuCloudhi everyone12:18
Dan-EInstalled Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???12:18
UbuntuCloudi have a problem on ubuntui 12.0.4 on microsot azure cloud12:19
usr13thrillERboy: Well, there is definately something wrong with this system.12:19
UbuntuCloudtry to create raid 5 with 8 1TB disk and i using mdadm but after put /etc/fstab and reset the system is not boot12:20
usr13thrillERboy: It has recently been upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, (couple months ago), and I don't know exactly how long, but I believe ever since then.12:21
sam113101HEL3P12:23
mattwj2002is 13.04 any good?12:23
mattwj2002:P12:23
sam113101yes12:23
mattwj2002sweet12:23
mattwj2002that is good because I am downloading it at about 30 Mbps12:24
mattwj2002;)12:24
UbuntuCloudany help on creating raid 512:26
mattwj2002hi UbuntuCloud12:27
mattwj2002I have created raid 5 before12:27
mattwj2002are you using the desktop or server version?12:28
Dan-EInstalled Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???12:28
UbuntuCloudmattwj2002 i have an issue with that i tried to folow almost all web site for creating raid 512:28
mattwj2002have you looked at the ubuntu administration guide?12:29
UbuntuCloudany link12:29
mattwj2002https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/serverguide.pdf12:29
UbuntuCloudi really tired becuse everytime i have to re provision the whol system its hosted in cloud12:30
mattwj2002that is for the server version though12:30
Mike3620How do you start an x windows session over ssh?12:30
UbuntuCloudmattwj2002 is there any GUI tools for creating raid on ubuntu12:30
UbuntuCloudMike3620 start x12:31
mattwj2002not that I know off the top of my head12:31
mattwj2002UbuntuCloud: what type of issues are you running into anyways?12:32
mattwj2002page 16 on that link12:32
UbuntuCloudmattwj2002 i try to create a raid 5 using 8 1TB disk (its all hosted in cloud) i using fdisk / mdadm and after creating a md0 as raid and format it with mkfs ext412:33
UbuntuCloudreboot the system its cause dead system12:34
UbuntuCloudbut before the reset its mounting and work perfect even with mount -a .....12:34
sam113101HELP12:34
sam113101I can't run a file, zsh says it doesn't exist but it does12:35
mattwj2002Ubuntucloud if you are dealing with servers.....12:35
mattwj2002I might recommend #ubuntu-server12:35
mattwj2002they are better at things like raid12:35
mattwj2002:)12:35
UbuntuCloudsam113101 check file permission and set chmod 775 our 777712:35
mattwj2002or12:35
UbuntuCloudthe run again ./file name12:35
mattwj2002you could try chmod u+x12:35
UbuntuCloudmattwj2002 thanks for advice12:36
mattwj2002I am sorry I wasn't much help12:36
Mike3620UbuntuCloud: It says an x server is already running12:36
mattwj2002:(12:36
mattwj2002that bums me out I couldn't fix it!12:36
Dan-EInstalled Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???12:37
ServerTechLaptopIs there a way to check in ubuntu server 12.04 whether gnome is running (after installing ubuntu-desktop)12:37
usr13Dan-E: What program is it?12:37
Dan-Eall12:37
UbuntuCloudMike3620 wich system u want run if gnome you have to sudo gdm start12:37
usr13Dan-E: So, alternately, how are you shutting them down?12:38
Dan-EUnder "File Quit"12:38
sam113101the file permissions are 755 already12:39
usr13Dan-E: Ok, I would suppose the X should no longer be there.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:39
usr13Dan-E: You can also do  Ctrl-q  or Ctrl-w12:39
Dan-Ek12:39
UbuntuCloudsam113101 the use 77712:39
UbuntuCloud./filename12:40
Dan-E but the problem still remains12:40
Mike3620I am trying to access my servers x window from my home machine12:40
Mike3620But cant12:40
usr13Dan-E: Some apps will close with Ctrl-q   others need   Ctrl-w12:40
Dan-Emy question is why won't the "X" work????12:41
adrenalinkis it possible that a package installation recompiles the kernel?12:41
MonkeyDustMike3620  with what protocol?12:41
Mike3620MonkeyDust: Ssh12:42
usr13Dan-E: (Firefox uses Ctrl-w) (I sometimes just do Ctrl-q w.  In other words I hold Ctrl and it q and then w.)12:42
Mike3620Gnome12:42
MonkeyDustMike3620  try ssh -y12:42
MonkeyDustMike3620  or ssh -Y (upper case)12:42
Mike3620Thnx will try12:42
UbuntuCloudMike3620 why you installed gnome on server at all ssh -y12:42
detvarejegif i upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 from u 12.10,is it jätte mycket that has to be downloaded my English good12:42
Dan-EWhy does the "X" just gray out just Gray out12:43
doc_bCan somebody help me. Using 12.10 when I plug my external hard drive into the computer and click on its directory the folder is empty. But when I cd into that folder it is show all my documents. Why is this happening?12:43
usr13Dan-E: I don't like for Firefox to ask if I want to shut down multiple tabs and Ctrl-w circumvents that process.12:43
mank319hello :-)12:43
mank319I am currently setting up a home server which will primarily serve as a nas12:44
ServerTechLaptopIs there a way to check in ubuntu server 12.04 whether gnome is running (after installing ubuntu-desktop)12:44
usr13Dan-E:  Did you do apt-get upgrade ?12:44
detvarejeghej då12:44
Dan-Enot yet12:44
mank319shall i choose ubuntu server or rather the alternate install disc12:44
wgqt251is there any way of running ubuntu 13.04 desktop in kvm with 3D disabled? it _so_ slow, probably because it is using software 3D.12:44
mank319and then just select what i need12:44
Dan-Ewill try now12:44
Dan-Ethanks12:44
Guest7464any1 got solution for "Disk not found" "No media inserted" "No booting drive" ..... i installed ubuntu 13.04 on formatted disk after Win712:44
mank319what are the major default components of ubuntu server?12:45
usr13mank319: "nas"?12:45
mank319is there an apache running e.g.? cause i do not need such stuff12:45
mank319well yeah12:45
mank319network samba storage12:45
mank319+12:45
mank319just a box with linux on it to play around :)12:45
mank319with a small onboard cpu and stuff12:45
usr13mank319: Will you use it as a Desktop as well?  (do you need X or not?)12:45
mank319low powerconsumption etc.12:45
mank319no12:46
mank319ssh is enough12:46
usr13mank319: ubuntu-server12:46
MonkeyDustmank319  with tasksel, you can select tasks manually12:46
mank319aye :-)12:46
mattwj2002guys12:46
mank319ok fine i will check that out MonkeyDust ;-)12:46
mank319thank you folks :-)12:46
mattwj2002I am going to try this 13.04 .. wish me luck! :)12:46
Guest7464Kkkkkkkkk thanks for help, bye...................-_-12:46
Mike3620I got google-chrom up over ssh but it is very slow please help12:47
usr13Mike3620: Use vnc12:47
mattwj2002Mike3620: are you doing a ssh -X12:47
mattwj2002?12:47
Mike3620Yes I an12:47
doc_bCan somebody help me. Using 12.10 when I plug my external hard drive into the computer and click on its directory the folder is empty. But when I cd into that folder it shows all my documents. Why is this happening?12:48
usr13mattwj2002: Obviously12:48
mattwj2002true12:48
usr13:-)12:48
mattwj2002what is upload speed at home?12:48
usr13Mike3620: tightvnc or x11vnc12:48
mattwj2002or wherever you are connected to12:48
mattwj2002listen to usr1312:48
usr13sudo apt-get install tightvncserver or sudo apt-get install x11vnc12:49
usr13Mike3620:12:49
Mike3620I will try vnc12:49
mattwj2002bbiab12:49
usr13Your choice.12:49
mattwj2002I am going to install 13.04!12:49
Dan-E0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded is reply12:49
usr13mattwj2002: Go for it!12:49
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usr13mattwj2002: Are you on 12.04?12:49
mank31913.04 rox so far12:49
mank319got it running since thursday :-)12:50
mank319used xubuntu before12:50
doc_bI don't mean to keep spamming this but its important that I get this figured out. Can somebody help?12:50
mank319As much as Unity annoyed me during the first 30 minutes i begin to love it the more I use it12:51
usr13doc_b: With _____________?12:51
mank319:D12:51
doc_bCan somebody help me. Using 12.10 when I plug my external hard drive into the computer and click on its directory the folder is empty. But when I cd into that folder it is show all my documents. Why is this happening?12:51
mank319after all its all just a matter of taste12:51
usr13Oh I see. Sorry12:51
doc_busr13: ha no worries. Do you know way its doing that?12:52
usr13doc_b: fully updated?12:52
doc_busr13: yes 12.10 fully updated12:53
goonfaceSays who12:53
mattwj2002back12:53
usr13To post screenshots use http://imagebin.org/  (Show us.)12:54
goonfacedoc_b: 13.04 update to that.12:54
mattwj2002usr13: are you part of ubuntu support?12:54
Onixswe ate all12:55
Onixsooops12:55
usr13mattwj2002: We all are.12:55
mattwj2002haha12:55
mattwj2002good point :)12:55
ZacJHey guys.12:56
ZacJSo check it out, I'm trying to stream my guitar through Ubuntu.  I haven't been able to run Rakarrack and I'm trying to stream through Audacity.12:56
ZacJHow can I do this?  I'm a noob who loves the idea of open source12:56
usr13doc_b: To post screenshots use http://imagebin.org/  (Show us.)12:57
ZacJOne pm of "faggot", excellent so far.12:57
MonkeyDustZacJ  I guess the people in #ubuntu-studio know best12:57
ZacJThanks.12:57
doc_busr13: sorry yes working on it12:57
usr13doc_b: Hit PrintScrn12:57
usr13Hint  ^^^12:58
ZacJkk sec12:58
meomicis fusion-icon crashing for you ppl also? or is it only me?  (ubuntu 13.04 x86-64)12:58
goonfaceStream guitar for what?12:58
ZacJJust to play.  I finally got my electric fixed, so tired of acoustic.12:59
ZacJJust to hear in my room.12:59
mattwj2002installing 13.0412:59
mattwj2002:D12:59
goonfacemattwj2002: try to use nvidia drivers13:00
mattwj2002I have amd graphics13:00
mattwj2002:P13:00
mattwj2002*ati whatever13:00
Moh2335Well actually ati is amd now :P13:02
goonfaceGuitar how you inputing the sound. Through mic jack?13:02
mattwj2002indeed hence the whatever :)13:02
Moh2335:P13:02
goonfaceAti should be good to13:03
mattwj2002this isn't my first install13:03
mattwj2002I have been using ubuntu for ages now13:03
mattwj2002:)13:03
mattwj2002I also use windows but oh well13:03
mattwj2002no one is prefect right ;)13:04
goonfaceGod is perfect13:04
emkeiHello, I just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.10 and ubuntu no longer boots. before stalling it says fixing recursive fault reboot needed. My machine is oldie goodie HP DV600013:04
emkeican anyone suggest any steps to retrace what went wrong.13:05
mattwj2002emkei: I am assuming it doesn't come up after the reboot?13:05
goonfaceI rather do clean install. Even format home to erase bad preferences13:06
emkeiIt actually comes after reboot13:06
mattwj2002godness13:06
mattwj20023.8 kernel is out all ready!13:06
mattwj2002they are no longer messing around!13:07
warefarehi13:09
Aarunihow to configure ubuntu/router, if I want remote computers to be able to access my machine ?13:09
mattwj2002hi warefare13:09
jmnozwhat's the best way to permanently disable *any* update pop ups?13:09
doc_busr13: http://imagebin.org/255570 http://imagebin.org/255571 http://imagebin.org/25557213:09
mattwj2002install complete13:10
mattwj2002restarting!13:10
oriezI just upgraded my ubuntu and I cannot run .sh scripts from nautilus13:11
oriezits open as a text file...13:12
doc_boriez: right click file and allow executable?13:12
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Guest84774anybody here13:12
Aarunior chmod +x, maybe oriez13:12
Guest84774sa tu jacys Polacy?13:13
oriezdid it..13:13
oriezand still13:13
srefonmoze i sa13:13
usr13doc_b: From what you've shown us, I still don't see what you are talking about. I will say this though, I do not use Nautilus, I use thunar13:14
doc_boriez: maybe sudo chmod /file/directory13:14
warefarewhat exactly is the purpose of the overflow tmp - it messed up my system a few times now, always changing tmp to 1MB - should be fixed imo13:15
usr13doc_b: I suppose you can install tunar (even though you are not an xfce user).  But, if you wanna become an xfce user, just do:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop13:15
Aarunioriez: you should get something like this, if its executable : http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=UY6D13:15
oriezit's system wide problem.. it's noting to do with chmod/..13:15
oriezi know....13:16
doc_busr13: so when I open the folder that the hard drive is mounted to. It is blank. But cd shows files. I can read and write through command line but that is time consuming13:16
oriezit's happend after upgrading13:16
usr13doc_b: In other words, I have no idea what your problem is, but I use thunar and I like it better.13:16
doc_busr13: I'll probably upgrade to 13.04 soon that might fix it. Just don't have time to mess with it now ha13:16
Aarunioriez: maybe something to do with default applications. do try checking your default application settings13:16
usr13doc_b: The screenshot does not show the file manager:  http://imagebin.org/25557213:16
doc_busr13: oh sorry, I'll take a look at that thanks anyway13:17
usr13doc_b: so... I still don't see13:17
oriezAaruni: where?13:17
doc_busr13: the folder under firefox browser is nautilus13:17
eos__is there a client for ubuntu that allows you to post to FB, twitter,identica,G+ at the same time?13:17
MonkeyDusteos__  pidgin has a lot of plugins13:18
usr13doc_b: I see the icon for the file manager.  What I do not see is how it looks when you navigate to the USB drive.13:18
usr13doc_b: That's what I asked you to show us.13:19
Aarunioriez: I don't really know mate, I am just guessing. I came here with a problem of my own. I am no expert, sorry.13:19
oriezthx13:19
usr13oriez: Do these .sh scripts have the executable bit set for them?13:20
budhi-Danyone know how to update grapics card?13:20
usr13oriez: sh scipt.sh13:20
doc_busr13: that blank screen is the USB directory, there should be folder in it but it is blank.13:20
usr13oriez: ./script.sh13:20
budhi-Dits an alien ware lap top thoght id try linux13:21
doc_boriez: do 'ls -l /directory/to/file13:21
oriezyes the have13:21
doc_boriez: without the '13:21
snowrichardwas setting up a server here at my apartment, I had the dns entries in the wrong order but i think its sorted now13:21
usr13doc_b: Oh, ok.  Well, I have no idea what your problem is, but I use thunar and I like it better.13:22
snowrichardsnowgames.in www.snowgames.in *.snowgames.in seems to work now13:22
oriez-rwxrwxr-x13:22
warefareanyone got an idea what I can do when Ubuntu AUTO changes my /etc/mtab overflow size to 1MB13:22
usr13doc_b: Are you fully updated?  If not:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade13:22
warefareI need tmp to be larger or I get probs13:22
doc_busr13: yes and yes13:23
warefareor should I use /etc/fstab for that13:23
ubuntu__HI im missing 700 gb, and im getting boot error when starting, no such drive....... any1 know?-__-13:23
doc_busr13: just not to 13.0413:23
budhi-Dim updated up i can find out how to update my grapics card..13:23
budhi-Dits an amd radeon something13:23
snowrichardi've got driver issues with my amd radion hd3000, can't get sound on the hdmi.13:24
budhi-Di hade that on windows lol13:24
budhi-Dis there a way to update it tough?13:24
snowrichardbut the raspberry pi works with sound on the hdmi lol13:24
budhi-Dthough*13:24
usr13doc_b: Ok, sorry but I thought seeing what you see might give us a clue, but I see nothing that indicates why files are not being displayed. HOWEVER, I do see an error in the output of ls13:25
usr13"Input/output error"13:25
usr13Looks to be a filesystem error.  Is it vfat?13:26
usr13doc_b:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^13:26
doc_busr13: hard drive is NTFS13:26
sam113101how do I install skype?13:26
oriezany one have problem running scripts from nautilus after upgrading to 13.04???13:26
mzazaIs Ubuntu 13.04 still suffering from slow nautlius, or fix update has been released?13:27
oriez.sh kind of scripts13:27
usr13doc_b: Well, again,  "Input/output error" indicates a filesystem error, (usually).  I would plug it into a MS Windows machine and check the filesystem for errors.13:27
warefarehmm is there any easy way to rebuild fstab? Its always adding 1MB TMP overflow to /etc/mtab13:28
warefareso strange13:28
usr13doc_b: Backup any data you don't want to loose first, just copy it to your HD. (via command line.13:28
doc_busr13: don't have a windows box handy so I will have to check that another day. (cp -R /source/ /destination)?13:28
usr13fsck  but backup first13:29
usr13doc_b: Yes, just use cp13:30
megamanx1978Ubuntu software center will not install packages when I click on the install button13:30
usr13megamanx1978: What error do you get?13:30
onrsoftware center is kinda buggy on my system too13:31
usr13megamanx1978: just use apt-get13:31
nfisherHi all! i have a problem with using compiz; in #compiz no one could help me thus far, so i figured maybe someone knows this issue: my Window-buttons are deranged when Compiz is activated. See Picture: http://i.imgur.com/5QA8TqJ.png any suggesstions how to fix that?13:31
usr13cut to the chase13:31
Paul_Hello everyone. How are we?13:31
cuddylierhi13:31
NePtUnOregards13:31
mzazausr13: Have you tried 13.04 yet?13:31
usr13mzaza: no13:31
usr13I'm a LTS'er13:32
BluesKaj_megamanx1978, make sure you have the pertinent repositories/sources enabled for the packages you want13:32
Paul_I was in #ubuntu-beginners but no ones alive in there. I've got a simple question if someone would be kind enough13:32
MonkeyDustPaul_  let's hear it13:32
usr13"LTS is Happiness"13:32
mzazausr13: I think i'll have to switch to an LTS too, 13.04 is so buggy.13:33
mzazausr13: :D13:33
usr13malkauns: It'll be better later.13:33
Paul_What are the main differences between the "desktop" and "server" versions of 12.04 LTS?13:33
georgiis there 13.10 version already?13:33
usr13Paul_: X13:33
georgiis there 13.10 version already?13:33
usr13Paul_: ubuntu-desktop13:33
MonkeyDustPaul_  other default packages installed, other partitioning, no grpahical DE by default13:33
yeats!13.10 | georgi13:33
ubottugeorgi: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:33
yeatsgeorgi: but it's not available yet - give it a week or so13:34
DJonesPaul_: Server doesn't have any GUI pre-installed and is aimed at people running a server of some form, desktop is for people running a home machine13:34
georgiok13:34
usr13Paul_: In other words, server does not have X installed13:34
georgiwhere can I check if it is available13:34
usr13georgi: Do you know what the date is?13:35
MonkeyDustgeorgi  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucyReleaseSchedule13:35
georgi2713:35
megamanx1978I checked and the repos are enabled13:35
usr13georgi: 13.10 is 2013 October13:35
Paul_So if you're starting with Ubuntu, you aren't limited package-wise by using desktop?13:35
yeatsPaul_: nope13:36
BluesKaj_megamanx1978, do get any errors ?13:36
georgiI meant the alpha version usr1313:36
BluesKaj_do you rather13:36
yeatsgeorgi: even alphas won't be available for a while13:36
DJonesPaul_: You can run a server from either server or desktop editions, or you can install server and then add a desktop13:36
georgiis it possible may?13:36
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megamanx1978When I click on install nothing happens13:36
yeatsgeorgi: no idea - just know that it's too early to ask ;-)13:37
georgiok13:37
georgithanks13:37
usr13georgi: /join #ubuntu+113:37
DJonesgeorgi: If you want to ask about 13.10 please ask in #ubuntu+1 although this early in the release cycle, there's probably not much available yet13:37
MonkeyDustnow there's an eager ubuntu user13:37
Paul_Alright cool. Thanks for the info! Have a good one guys :)13:37
georgiI am there13:37
georgiand asking13:37
megamanx1978When packages does ubuntu software center need to work properly?13:37
usr13megamanx1978: apt-get13:38
usr13megamanx1978: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?13:38
usr13megamanx1978: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade13:39
georgiok djones13:39
usr13megamanx1978: Let us know if you encounter errors.13:39
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mbp+j13:40
megamanx1978But apt-get wont work for paid packages in the ubuntu software center, I am using 12.04, & synaptic works fine13:41
fanbetasticinstalled ubuntu flawlessly on my dekstop. Now i wanted to install it on my laptop Asus G74. When i proceed to choose country i get a popup saying "the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in LVM has failed" any of you guys had any problems with that? 13.04 btw13:41
eos__MonkeyDust: can yu do simultaneous posting?13:41
usr13megamanx1978: Did you do:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  ?13:42
BluesKaj_megamanx1978, is the package manager locked up ? , if so open a terminal and enter this , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a13:42
usr13megamanx1978: synaptic works fine?13:42
Neozonzfor a 512MB server how much should i set swap to, and how much % should i configure swappiness too?13:44
Neozonzare there any recommendations13:44
usr13Neozonz: You have 512M of RAM?13:44
Neozonzuser__, yes vps13:44
piotrHey, I have a problem with 13.04, when I did /etc/init.d/networking restart, Gnome 3 crashed, and system now start up with console mode13:45
dank101Hi13:45
dank101what is the best nvidia driver for steam?13:46
dank101or do i use trial and error13:46
megamanx1978sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade command has no errors and yes synaptic works fine13:46
BluesKaj_dank101, whatever driver works well with compiz for 3d and DIR13:47
dank101BluesKaj_, how do i see13:47
BluesKaj_dank101, probly the nvidia-current13:47
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dank101BluesKaj_, OK!13:48
BluesKaj_dank101, alt+F2 , additional drivers or jockey id gnome/unity uses that13:48
BluesKaj_if13:48
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usr13Neozonz: swappiness=10  is just a suggestion, it's up to you.13:48
Neozonzusr13, how much should i set swapspace to?13:49
Neozonzuser__, it's currently 1GB13:49
Neozonz*usr1313:49
usr13Neozonz: You can change it at any time.13:49
usr13Neozonz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq13:49
megamanx1978Is there a website where I can download the ubuntu software center packages that I paid for?13:49
mbp?13:50
usr13megamanx1978: What did you pay for?13:50
mbpyeah13:50
BluesKaj_Neozonz, are you using a swap partition or a swap file ?13:50
NeozonzBlueEagle, not sure atm13:50
MonkeyDustmegamanx1978  this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/13:51
usr13Neozonz: sudo fdisk -l13:51
megamanx1978Bastion and about a dozen other games13:51
usr13Neozonz: Ctrl-Alt-F6  and do sudo fdisk -l13:51
dank101Which Jockey driver works the best13:52
NeozonzBluesKaj_, looks like a partition13:53
BluesKaj_dank101, the one that is recommended13:53
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dank101BluesKaj_, i can't get GUI jockey13:53
dank101it just doesn't give me a app option13:53
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usr13Neozonz: The default value for swappiness is probably just fine.  I wouldn't worry about it too much.13:55
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erdinchi guys13:56
megamanx1978Yes that site ty13:56
usr13Neozonz: As along as you have a swap partition as large or little larger than RAM size, you should be just fine.13:56
BluesKaj_dank101, then try additional drivers13:56
erdincanyone using xubuntu 13.04?13:56
usr13erdinc: Advise: Just ask your question.13:56
Neozonzusr13, i don't see a seperate swap partition, i see one partition at 20gb13:56
erdinchow to edit desktop icons range?13:57
usr13Neozonz: Have you completed the install?13:57
Neozonzusr13, yes currenly on a vps13:57
usr13Neozonz: vps?13:57
usr13It is a virtual private server?13:57
Neozonzusr13, yes13:57
usr13Neozonz: And you did the install?13:58
Neozonzusr13, the host presets it up13:58
Neozonzfrom a template13:58
usr13Neozonz: But it gives you an option to set swappiness?13:58
usr13Neozonz: What server are you using?13:59
Neozonzusr13, ubuntu on rackspace13:59
usr13Well, I dono13:59
Anti-S1eepGreetings.14:00
MonkeyDustNeozonz  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess14:00
Neozonzthanks14:00
statuaciao a tutti14:01
statua!lista14:01
ubottustatua: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:01
red22I am trying to upgrade from12.10 to 13.04..  I have the ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso copied on my disk.  My internet connection is very slow so is there some way I can add that iso as a valid source for updates/upgrading please?14:05
minasred22, what do you mean add it as an update source?14:06
red22I read a completely offline upgrade isn't possible to 13.04, and that is ok... I just want to be able to take advantage of not having to download what is already available on the iso...14:06
mank319hey there14:07
minasred22, oh, you have the ISO but you want to upgrade, not do a clean install. How fast is your connection?14:07
red22minas, yeah, as a source for ubuntu to see as valid for upgrading to 13.0414:07
mank319usb startup disk creator fails when trying to install ubuntu 12.01 server14:07
mank319it will fail installing the bootloader14:07
mank319not earlier14:08
mank319cant i just take grub from another bootable system then?14:08
mank319or14:08
red22minas, The iso took like 2 days to download.. Power outages and all.. So I would really like to avoid that again ;)14:08
mank319let me reformulate my question14:08
mank319if i create a bootable installation of lets say ubuntu desktop can i just "add" ubntu server and use the other ones bootloader14:09
minasred22, oh, that slow :) Well, I don't know the solution to what you are asking for, sorry.14:09
John_mmank319, i think yes14:09
mank319well it didnt work out14:10
mank319he asked me again to type pwd for installing bootloader :(14:10
mank319and i declined14:10
mank319or should i have tried it hoping that it'd recognize the already existant grub?14:10
usr13red22: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade14:10
red22minas, ok no prob thanks for trying!  somehow i think ubuntu should just recognize the official iso and ask me if I want to upgrade or add as a source at least  from it when I double click :/14:11
mank319one last try :D14:11
red22usr13, let me check it out... but I believe I have read that and a great many pages without finding what I need... thanks for link, will let you know in a few minutes.14:12
John_mmank319, u need manual add settings for server in /boot/grub/menu.lst, u try it? and why desktop grub can install and server not?14:12
minasred22, yeah , that would be a good thing. If your pc is a laptop, you could go to a place with fast internet (but I guess would have done it, so it must be a desktop)14:12
lomo7hey, i have asrock 970 extreme 4, how do i install its drivers for ubuntu?14:13
Gukerhello everyone~14:13
usr13red22: Burn the ISO to CD and boot to it.14:13
red22minas, it's like a 50 lb server-case-handmedown of a desktop too ;)14:13
usr13red22: or to USB stick.14:13
mank319well for some reason14:15
mank319this time it worked out14:15
mank319strange14:15
red22usr13: I have it on usb stick and I booted from it... And while some web pages says there should be an option to "upgrade to 13.04" somewhere.. I just get the regular clean install options or custom install via format/partition/etc...  What am I not seeing or doing wrong?14:15
fyksenI have just installed Ubuntu 13.04. And I can't change the mouse sensitivity. In the "mouse settings" I only got the doubbletap optoin. Here is my mouse setting screen. (in norwegian) http://imgur.com/2yJWD5I14:15
mank319maybe because of the already existand bootloader14:16
mank319well14:16
mank319have fun14:16
FloodBot1mank319: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:16
MonkeyDustfyksen  it's in Universal Access, Poiting and Clicking14:18
MonkeyDusttypo*14:18
fyksenMonkeyDust, wow. TY.. Have they moved it?14:19
John_mmank319, you too14:19
MonkeyDustfyksen  oh, that simply brings you to Mouse & Touchpad14:19
fyksenMonkeyDust, Yeah.. It didn't work :/14:19
MonkeyDustfyksen  dconf-editor has mouse settings, too14:20
fyksenMonkeyDust, Where in it?14:20
red22usr13, minas: any way to add the iso as a local repo for ubuntu software with a higher priority than the online repos?  Then after maybe I can just do the regular update/upgrade procedure..14:21
lomo7how can i install drivers for ubuntu? sorry for noob q...14:22
MonkeyDustfyksen  mousekeys-accel-time, in dconf14:22
lomo7i have asrock 97014:22
MonkeyDustfyksen  dconf-editor, click 'Find' and look for mouse14:22
red22usr13, minas: the "software sources" settings window says "to install from a cd-rom or dvd, insert the medium into the drive" but no option to select an image from a file... Maybe somehow I can mount the iso as a fake cd so that "software sources" can use the iso?14:23
fyksenMonkeyDust, thanks. Found it! Is accel time the acceleration?14:23
fyksenMonkeyDust, okey, I can see that it is the acceleration. But where to set the sensitivity? :)14:25
John_m lomo7, what version of Ubuntu do you have?14:29
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oriezany one have problem running scripts from nautilus after upgrading to 13.04???14:30
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MonkeyDustoriez  run in terminal seems to be no longer there14:31
oriezwhy???14:32
MonkeyDustoriez  the gnome people changed a lot in nautilus and not always for the best, IMO14:32
luhpurhi, i did a a fresh 13.04 install and have problem with flash14:32
hzformubuntu12.10 need to upgrade to 13.04?14:33
MonkeyDusthzform  yes, if you want the newest features14:34
ReliantI'm having a problem where my ethernet connection is on for ~30s, off for ~30s. The only change that's happened is that I had to give my modem/router a factory reset. Is there a setting that could cause something like that?14:35
synnysterIs there a way to make my grub menu more pretty / graphic? (think OS X boot menu)14:35
MonkeyDustsynnyster  burg14:35
luhpurflash player doesn't work in 13.0414:36
synnysterThanks, MonkeyDust14:38
gray--i used do-release-upgrade to go from 12.10 to 13.04.  Upgrade went fine, system's fine, working well, but the motd tells me i still need to upgrade… sounds like a little little bug, just wondering if it's worth reporting?14:39
jribgray--: output of lsb_release -a?14:40
gray--No LSB modules are available.14:41
gray--Distributor ID:Ubuntu14:41
gray--Description:Ubuntu 13.0414:41
gray--Release:13.0414:41
gray--Codename:raring14:41
FloodBot1gray--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:41
gray--(apologies FloodBot1 :) )14:41
jribgray--: pastebin what you are actually seeing in your motd?14:42
gray--sure14:42
synnysterHow do I find where my MBR is installed?14:43
gray--http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608646/14:43
jribgray--: presumably you've logged in again since the upgrade?14:43
gray--yeah, lots of times, even tried a reboot (non-critical play-thing VM)14:44
jribgray--: cat /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available14:45
gray--New release '13.04' available.14:45
gray--Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.14:45
gray--what do you reckon jrib ?14:46
jribgray--: hmm.  I'm curious what is responsible for clearing that file (you can read /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd to see the script that update-motd ends up executing).14:47
synnysterHow can I remove the old kernels from my 13.04 upgrade?14:47
synnysterOr even should I?14:47
jribsynnyster: use your favorite package manager to remove the corresponding linux-image* package.  I'd suggest leaving at least one old kernel around14:47
synnysterjrib: are any package managers pre installed?14:48
jribgray--: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/117320914:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1173209 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Prompted about New Release for 13.04 again after already done dist-upgrade and newstart" [Low,Confirmed]14:48
gray--aha, good stuff jrib, cheers14:48
jrib!software | synnyster14:49
ubottusynnyster: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents14:49
ReliantI've been following http://askubuntu.com/questions/87003/intermittent-internet-connectivity  to troubleshoot my problem. Last time I had this problem, installing the drivers fixed it. Now, right drivers, same problem14:49
jribgray--: should be safe to just delete the file; the bug is already reported14:50
jribgray--: erm, by "the file" I mean /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available14:51
gray--will do, guess it wasn't housekept at the end of the upgrade14:51
pianogmxwhen i got the upgrade notification (in kde) , I just clicked it, ran 'sudo apt-get update' and i didn't get a notification afterwords...14:52
pianogmxbut that was after the upgrade from 12.10 -> 13.04 of course...14:53
riddribhow can make money with ubuntu?14:55
harshaduralol14:56
harshadurariddrib: code14:56
kill_boxriddrib tell people on craigslist you'll put osx on their pc for a cool hundo14:58
gray--could try selling it?14:58
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sharif-ubuntucan u help me14:59
Mangmois it allowed to sell ubuntu??14:59
sharif-ubuntuubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem slove14:59
Mangmoi mean configuration of ubuntu sure is payable, but just for ubuntu? dont think this works14:59
MonkeyDustMangmo  if you find someone who's willing to pay for something he can get for free, why not15:00
riddribI no sell ubuntu i sell my service15:00
sharif-ubuntuubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem slove15:00
sharif-ubuntuany one help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem slove15:00
kill_boxWe got a business man here15:00
esingMonkeyDust, It's called fraud and is a crime, except if the persons installs it for him, then it's called charged service15:01
LLOODDWanted to share a new programming forum: http://thedevshed.net/forum/15:02
szekelyaHi. I bought an Asus U32U-RX400D laptop with 4GB ram to my daughter. I installed 32 bit ubuntu. Will it make a significant difference if I reinstall with the 64 bit version?15:04
Bostomanszekelya, you won't notice any difference15:04
BluesKaj_szekelya, no15:04
thubtumbingszekelya, I wouldn't even recommend it, most applications still are best in a 32bit environment15:06
szekelyaFor sure it won't have to addres over 4GB memory. I thought the processor would perform double amount of tasks, but that might be a misbelief.15:06
Bostomanszekelya, that's indeed a misbelief15:07
Bostoman32bit is fine15:07
szekelyaOK, thanks, I wouldn't bother.15:07
OerHeksszekelya, i would say it runs faster.15:08
dank101Welp15:08
szekelyaBTW during the normal instllation, and the automatically offered updates, do I get a generic video driver? Do I have to search for a video driver manually for the specific video card?15:08
dank101i can't find the Additional drivers tab in Settings15:08
szekelyaOerHeks: if it is somewhat faster, but most applications are most stable with their 32 bit version, I wouldn't bother reinstalling. If it is clearly doubling the speed, I consider.15:10
dank101Anyone?15:10
OerHeksdank101, it is in software propertys > http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/a-new-interface-for-handling-third.html15:11
dank101OerHeks, It shows nothing under that tab15:12
OerHeksdank101, then there would be no driver available, i guess15:12
dank101OerHeks, BLASPHEMY! i'm on 13.04 on 12.04 it shows nvidia Which i KNOW i have15:13
andriiHI guys15:13
andriican anybody help me ?15:13
Bostomanhi andrii15:13
Bostomanmaybe15:13
andriiI've just installed XUbuntu 13.0415:13
DJones!ask | andrii15:13
ubottuandrii: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:14
andriiand install the skype15:14
dank101!xubuntu ! andrii15:14
ubottudank101: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:14
dank101!xubuntu | andrii15:14
ubottuandrii: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels15:14
andriiok , ubuntu with xfce4 interface15:14
andriibut skype doesn't work15:15
andriiall times I get crush reports15:15
Bostomanhow so doesn't work?15:15
Bostomanbe more precise please15:15
dank101andrii, 13.00415:15
dank101Bostoman, i see what you did there15:15
dank101or i'm just a big nerd15:15
andriicat /etc/issue --> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l15:16
Bostoman?15:16
Cantideis anyone having trouble running 13.04 in a VM? I'm just getting  a black screen but it's running in the background ,_,15:16
dank101Cantide, Drivers15:17
johnjohn1011cantide. i am running 13.04 in vmware. perfecto15:17
dank101install guest addons from emergency terminal15:17
Cantidei can access the terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+t (it has no window decorations though)15:17
Cantidewhat packages exactly do i need to install?15:17
dank101Cantide, what VM software15:18
Cantidevirtualbox15:18
dank101Ah15:18
vivekagrI'm changing the touchpad pointer speed but it isn't saving and gets back to the default value every time. Am I doing something wrong?15:18
Cantidei downloaded the latest version today and installed the extension pack15:18
dank101install guest addons15:18
dank101using terminal15:18
Cantidewhere? in the terminal?15:18
dank101yes15:18
Cantidewhat's the package name?15:18
dank101try to open Nautilus from terminal15:19
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Cantideyeah, that works15:20
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dank101go to the settings of virualbox and put in the guest addons disk15:20
Cantideah, i see15:20
dank101Does nvidia-current work with GeForce 555M15:21
dank101jockey does NOT want to run15:22
Cantidei don't see a setting for that ._.15:22
dank101Cantide, its in the top, near disks15:22
Cantidestill not seeing it...15:23
dank101hold on15:23
dank101i havn't used virualbox since 12.0415:24
jmnozhow can I configure mpd to be able to access my ~/music when my ~ is encrypted using ecryptfs?15:24
yeats!info virtualbox-guest-x11 | Cantide dank10115:24
ubottuCantide dank101: virtualbox-guest-x11 (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - X11 guest utilities. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.10-dfsg-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 845 kB, installed size 5266 kB15:24
Cantidethanks, yeats :)15:25
Cantideoh.. what ppa do i need to add for that, yeats ?15:25
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dank101Cantide, none15:26
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dank101Can someone answer my question15:26
frisanyone know of a ppa with php 5.4.14 for ubuntu 13.0415:26
dank101does nvidia-current version 304.88 work with GeForce 555M15:27
Cantideit can't find the package "virtualbox-guest-x11"15:27
Cantide:'(15:27
ipotatoanyone else having graphics problems once upgraded to 13.04?15:27
dank101ipotato, the only issue i have is me being to paranoid to install nvidia drivers15:28
vilgaxwhere does gnome-contact store its data?15:28
lordduneHello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums15:29
lorddunei discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.15:29
lorddunecan anyone explain why this is happening and suggest a possible solution?15:29
dank101lorddune, thats pretty silly15:29
dank101it's linux after all15:29
lorddunedank101: and why is that silly?15:29
ipotato12.10 worked fine for me, but with 13.04 I get repeating patterns or colored pixels at the top of the screen. So the desktop is loading but I can't see or do anything15:30
dank101ipotato, what Grapics card15:30
lorddunedank101: you do not have to answer a question with a SMART-ASS remark, dank10115:30
Cantideoooh, now i see, dank101 :) thanks :)15:31
dank101lorddune, it wasn't... please be nice15:31
lorddunethis is a serious problem I am having, and Tiger is a process of auditing files / security that is built into the Linux kernal15:31
vilgaxwhy ubuntu added gnome-contact in 13.04? its almost useless to the point that i can't delete contact i have added.15:31
ipotatoit's an ivy bridge integrated card pentium g202015:31
dank101ipotato,  i think installing the intel drivers which i think just came out should fix it15:31
lorddunedank101: so your remark that is it "Silly" is immature and doesn't help me15:31
dank101lorddune, ...15:32
betraydlorddune: start exploring /etc/cron and subdirs15:32
dank101i need to reboot15:32
dank101i got the drivers15:32
pianogmxsomeone call for a donkey?15:32
ipotatois there a way to do it from the console15:32
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betraydlorddune: do not leave out /etc/crontab if it exists15:34
lorddunebetrayd: Tiger is the apparent culprit. It is a command that runs at the same time every night (1 am).15:34
betraydlorddune yes but did you see it show that cmd15:34
betraydin Tiger15:35
lorddunebetrayd: yes betrayd15:35
betraydin /etc/where15:35
ipotatoHow do I install the latest intel graphics drivers from the terminal?15:35
lorddunebetrayd: I located the source of checkmd5sum and it was only in Tiger15:36
betraydnot that, but you could delete that lorddune15:37
Bostomanlorddune, but is there a cronjob configured?15:37
lorddunebetrayd: it's part of the Linux kernel15:37
betraydwe are looking for the cronjob line lorddune15:37
lomo7how do i run .run file in ubuntu?15:37
lomo7with superuser privileges?15:37
lomo7i'm trying to install amd gpu..15:38
betraydlorddune: like Bostoman said15:38
KI4ROIf I remotely update/upgrade a system then do a reboot on that system is there a way to get back on it?15:38
lomo7it says.. - To start driver installation, just run <...>-installer-<...>.run. You have to do this with superuser privileges.15:38
Bostomanlomo7, a hidden file to be executed?15:39
lorddunebetrayd: and how exactly do I display this cronjob line15:39
BluesKaj_lomo7, I believe it's sudo ./filename.run15:39
betraydlorddune: start exploring /etc/cron and subdirs15:39
Bostomanlorddune, crontab -l15:40
jakobbgHi. I just migrated from linode x86 to x64-kernel, and after having done a reinstall of oracle java, executing "java" just says /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory - even though the file exists. what can i do to fix this?15:41
lomo7BluesKaj_: i get command not found..15:41
jakobbg(reinstall of oracle java performed to get 64-bit java version, which was downloaded and installed)15:41
Bostomanlomo7, do it from the directory in which the file is and make sure that file has execute per;issions15:41
lordduneBostoman: 'no crontab for <username>15:42
BluesKaj_lomo7, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23979715:42
frisanyone have a working ppa for 5.4.14 for ubuntu 13.0415:42
Bostomanlorddune, and you get the same for sudo crontab -l15:43
frisi get this when trying to install php5-cli15:43
frisphp5-cli : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.14-1~ppa1~raring) but 5.4.14-1~quantal+1 is to be installed15:43
jakobbg/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java exists ("-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7.6K Apr 27 17:24 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java"), but trying to execute /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java says "-bash: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory" ... what gives!?15:43
lordduneBostoman: correct, no crontab for root either15:43
fristhe php5 package worked fine, just the cli one has an issue15:43
lomo7BluesKaj_: Thx! :)15:43
frisusing this one https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ppa15:44
Bostomanlorddune, what's in /etc/cron.daily ?15:44
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BluesKaj_lomo7, thank me if your install works :)15:46
vilgaxmissing menu bar in some application like nautilus, mahjong etc after upgrading to ubuntu 13.04 and removing indicator-appmenu to get rid off global menu bar15:48
lomo7BluesKaj_: ;) it says.. fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.15:48
lomo7from log file..15:48
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BluesKaj_lomo7, ahh , so you downloaded the fglrx driver from ati , why not use the fglrx driver in the repos it comes with the proper headers15:49
goonfacelomo7: sAy WhAt15:50
lomo7BluesKaj_: u mean to the cd? i don't have cd15:51
BluesKaj_lomo7, the package manager reposiotories /sources.list15:51
UKBeastieGirlHello everyone15:52
goonfaceUnity is a hog. KDE is smooth15:52
UKBeastieGirlquick question, new to Ubuntu and I want to get my photos/music from Windows 7 over to my Ubunru15:52
UKBeastieGirlhow do I do that15:52
BostomanUKBeastieGirl, just copy the files15:53
UKBeastieGirlI cant see my windows files though15:53
UKBeastieGirlfrom Ubuntu15:53
ignaciohello15:53
goonfaceUKBeastieGirl: just mount drive or partition15:53
UKBeastieGirlwhere?15:53
JasonGriffeeWhat would cause this: "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."?15:54
UKBeastieGirlI have been at it for 3 hours and I cant find where I would need to mount the windows folders15:54
johnjohn1011UKBeastieGirl: are you doing a dual boot or are they seperate machines?15:54
aleks_Good morning I have a problem with my wireless connection15:54
UKBeastieGirldual boot15:54
BostomanUKBeastieGirl, sudo fdisk -l15:54
aleks_can some help me?15:54
Bostomansee what partition is your windows15:54
UKBeastieGirlWhere?15:55
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Bostomanin a terminal15:55
Bostomanopen a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l15:55
lomo7BluesKaj_: i'm pretty noob with ubuntu.. 1st time install15:55
UKBeastieGirllol15:55
lordduneBostoman: i looked at that folder, doesn't seem to be anything out of the ordinary, should I list all the files (about 15)15:55
BluesKaj_lomo7, open the software center and look for the ati-fglrx or vairiations on that15:56
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dank101-welpWELP15:56
Bostomanlorddune, no need to, look in the other /etc/cron* folders as well15:56
UKBeastieGirlWhy can I not see them direct in a file manager?15:56
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BostomanUKBeastieGirl, you need to mount them first... weŕe getting there :)15:56
dank101-welpi installed nvidia drivers and now unity won't loas15:56
Gneadank101-welp: hopefully you didn't install them direct from nvidia.com15:57
dank101-welpGnea, i got from the package nvidia current15:57
dank101-welpi can purge it15:57
goonfaceHahaha15:57
dank101-welpbut i REALLY want the drivers15:57
goonface:)15:57
Gneadank101-welp: you can, but that wouldn't really fix the problem15:57
UKBeastieGirlok got that up now15:58
Gneadank101-welp: of course you do, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to install them in the first place. :-)  what nvidia device do you have, exactly?15:58
Bostomanso what device partition is your windows?15:58
UKBeastieGirlim assuming its going to be in dev/sda3 right?15:58
TrDhi15:59
UKBeastieGirlthats the biggest drive, where all my files are15:59
JasonGriffeeNeed assist with ndis wrapper15:59
BostomanUKBeastieGirl, could be.... the one listed as NTFS probably is the winner15:59
goonfaceGnea: you said that?15:59
dank101-welpi have a 555M GeForce15:59
Gneagoonface: do you have an ubuntu-related question?15:59
lomo7BluesKaj_: No items match "ati-fglrx"15:59
goonfaceLol lol15:59
UKBeastieGirlsaytem for sda 1 and 2 are NTFS/exFAT15:59
UKBeastieGirland sda3 is extended15:59
Gnea!attitude | goonface15:59
ubottugoonface: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:59
goonfaceShe needs to look on the left side of the file manager and mount the partition by double clicking it16:00
BluesKaj_lomo7, fglrx then16:00
BostomanUKBeastieGirl, you need to decode in which folder you want to mount the files16:00
dank101-welpAnyone16:00
dank101-welphelp16:00
UKBeastieGirlLOL16:00
Bostomandecode = decide16:00
dank101-welpit won't load opengl16:00
Gneadank101-welp: I am trying to help, please don't push.  What is the output of this command: lspci | grep VGA16:00
dank101-welpccsm isn't helping16:00
BostomanUKBeastieGirl,  something like /media/windows is a good choice :)16:00
lordduneBostoman: really nothing other than placeholder, 0anacron, man-db, and apt-xapian-index16:00
UKBeastieGirlWay over my head :P16:00
dank101-welp00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)16:01
dank101-welp01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF116M [GeForce GT 550M] (rev a1)16:01
nyuszika7hhi, I'd like to disable the nVIDIA logo, but I haven't got an /etc/Xorg.conf{,.d} - what's the proper way to do it?16:01
dank101-welpGnea16:01
ozcanesenhey i whitelisted all indicator apps with setting 'all' and logout/login. but still can't see indicators. any advice?16:01
UKBeastieGirli just want my music in the music folder :P16:01
lomo7BluesKaj_: found 1 result: ATI binary X.Org driver16:01
johnjohn1011UKBeastieGirl: if you want to follow Bostoman:  here is a good site to follow  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/auto-mount-windows-ntfs-partitions-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/16:01
Gneadank101-welp: so you have 2 video cards16:01
UKBeastieGirland my pics in the pic folder16:01
betraydJasonGriffee: do u know if you installed it16:01
dank101-welpGnea, yes one intergraded16:01
UKBeastieGirland the easiest way possible.16:02
Gneadank101-welp: are you using the integrated one?16:02
UKBeastieGirlI know some geek speak :P but this is all foreign to me16:02
lordduneBostoman: the issue I have begins at 1 am every night and ends about 30-40 minutes later every day. The research I did led me to believe it was Tiger running a security / audit check at that time evry day.16:02
BluesKaj_lomo7, what about just fglrx ?16:02
dank101-welpGnea was, until i got the driver16:02
BostomanUKBeastieGirl, indeed the site that johnjohn1011 gave explains it all step by step :D16:02
JasonGriffeebetrayed: I followed the instruction @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper16:02
UKBeastieGirlThank You :)16:02
Gneadank101-welp: let me rephrase: do you plan on using the intel AND nvidia cards together on multiple displays?16:02
Bostomanlorddune, well that sounds like a cronjob but so far o cronjob has been found so itś weird16:02
dank101-welpGnea, no this is a laptop anyway16:03
betraydJasonGriffee: how old is that page, are you positive you still need ndiswrapper16:03
johnjohn1011UKBeastieGirl:  linux doesn't have the concept of drives like windows.  what the mount command does is to make the ntfs drive look like a folder.16:03
JasonGriffeebetrayd: I followed the instruction @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper16:03
f3eHow do i connect Wired Connection 1 with 2?16:03
betraydJasonGriffee: how old is that page, are you positive you still need ndiswrapper16:03
Gneadank101-welp: okay, so how do you have an integrated intel and then an nvidia on a laptop together? what interface did you use to plug the nvidia in?16:03
lomo7BluesKaj_: found 1 result: ATI binary X.Org driver - for fglrx16:04
dank101-welpGnea, i made dell put it in16:04
nyuszika7hGnea: it's called nVIDIA Optimus, I think16:04
dank101-welppayed extra16:04
dank101-welpit's openGL is not enabled16:04
betraydlorddune/ Bostoman it could be on the tiger side of things isn't tiger *nix16:04
yoojinHow can I reinstall X and nvidia drivers and remove the configuration files, returning those elements to stock? My ubuntu installation is REALLY whacked because of an update i tried to do to install Nvidia31916:04
JasonGriffeebetrayd: I have no Idea, I just know that my wireless isn't working.16:04
dank101-welpand ccsm won't let me16:04
nyuszika7hdank101-welp: you should install Bumblebee then run OpenGL apps with optirun / primusrun16:04
Gneait's "paid" not "payed", and the optimus is a special variant that the standard driver doesn't support16:05
Bostomannot familiar with tiger...16:05
dank101-welpGnea, i have a optimus?16:05
Bostomanbut it could indeed be something scheduled inside the tiger service16:05
Bostomanbut then I guess you need to be able to configure it16:05
Gneadank101-welp: it should be spelled out in the documentation that dell sent16:05
BluesKaj_lomo7, install mesa-utils , then open a terminal and copy and paste this into it , glxinfo | grep OpenGL , then paste here what the version string line is.from the resulting output .16:06
dank101-welpGnea i don't have one16:06
Gneadank101-welp: they didn't send documentation?16:06
JasonGriffeebetrayd: It mentions Quetzal, so it can't be that old.16:06
betraydJasonGriffee: also have ndisgtk?16:06
dank101-welpGnea no, it's not a optimus16:06
Gneadank101-welp: okay, what's the service tag?16:06
dank101-welpit's compiz being a conflicting b**ch16:06
Gneait is?16:06
JasonGriffeebetrayd, Yes, that's the package I downloaded.16:06
lordduneBostoman: there is also a cron.d folder, and I noticed "John" and "Tiger" in there. Could either of those be the causes?16:07
momin90909Hi everyone16:07
dank101-welpccsm won't save my settings16:07
betraydJasonGriffee: it doesn't fail to load though?16:07
dank101-welpTo enable unity OpenGL and expo16:07
Gneadank101-welp: I really don't care about ccsm, I want you to answer my questions,, please.16:07
betraydJasonGriffee: the app comes up nicely16:07
betrayd?16:07
dank101-welpGnea Thats my issue16:07
JasonGriffeeyes16:07
momin90909I have bought VPS with 256mb RAM, With Ubuntu 12.04 CLI only16:08
dank101-welpi shot it16:08
dank101-welpi KNOW the issue16:08
momin90909i want to install gui on it16:08
JasonGriffeeit comes up16:08
dank101-welpbut it won't let me FIX it16:08
momin90909How can I do it16:08
JasonGriffeeinstall driver, hardware found16:08
JasonGriffeeFATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.16:08
Gneadank101-welp: well if you know the issue, then you should know the answer and you don't need to ask for help.16:08
dank101-welpGnea, it won't let me fix it16:09
betraydJasonGriffee: is that from the gtk tool?16:09
Gneadank101-welp: that's because you're not answering my questions, getting too frustrated16:09
JasonGriffeeno, terminal16:09
betraydJasonGriffee: he may have moved it already16:09
dank101-welpwhen i enable stuff in ccsm it disables it16:09
johnjohn1011dank101-welp: if something won't save, it could be a permissions issue. can you run ccsm as root maybe?16:09
shockerguys, im new to linux.. is there any way to overclock my cpu within linux.. im using ubuntu 13.0416:09
lordduneBostoman: in the daily cron there is the following: 0anacron, apport, apt, bsdmainutils, chlrootkit, debtags, dpkg, google-chrome, google-earth, logrotate, man-db, mlocate, ntp, passwd, popularity-contest, samba, standard, update-notifier-common and .placeholder16:09
betraydJasonGriffee: but ndisgtk registers no complaints, try that comand in terminal without &16:10
Gneadank101-welp: well as I said, I don't care about ccsm. It has nothing to do with the actual problem.16:10
OerHeksdank101-welp, me too thinks you have optimus.16:10
dank101-welpjohnjohn1011 yes16:10
nyuszika7hCurrent status: 227 updates [+227], 2054 new [+179].16:10
yoojinnvidia-319 broke my installation, If somebody knows how I can roll back to an earlier version, reinstall and wipe any graphics related configurations files, that would make me very grateful.16:10
nyuszika7herr16:10
nyuszika7hE: I wasn't able to locate a file for the base-files package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.16:10
nyuszika7hE: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download16:10
dank101-welpK16:11
dank101-welpi fixed it16:11
JasonGriffeebetrayd: what command16:11
Bostomanlorddune, what is in /etc/crontab ?16:11
betraydJasonGriffee: ndisgtk in a terminal16:11
johnjohn1011dank101-welp: what did you do?16:11
dank101-welpreseting compiz settings and enabling what i needed fixed it16:11
Gneadank101-welp: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html  <-- your card supports optimus16:11
betraydJasonGriffee: so we can look at messages from it16:11
Gneadank101-welp: good.16:11
JasonGriffeepops-up, no error16:12
Gneaso the driver was fine, but you decided to skip that part and went onto compiz16:12
momin90909I would like to get GUI on VPS, how can I do it16:12
betraydJasonGriffee: is the window still there, see what it says when you pick 'install ndiswrapper'16:13
lordduneBostoman: that folder does not exist as far as I can tell16:13
lordduneBostoman: erm directory rather16:13
Bostomanit's a file16:13
Bostomanso try sudo cat /etc/crontab16:14
JasonGriffeebetrayd: ndiswrapper-common?16:14
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betraydis that from ndisgtk JasonGriffee16:14
betraydstill in terminal right?16:14
lordduneBostoman: basically just has the commands to run the 4 cron folders16:15
dank101-welpdoes bumblebee work with steam games16:15
betraydJasonGriffee: we want to see its reaction16:15
Bostomanok16:15
vichow can i unlock a modem16:15
JasonGriffeebetrayd: I installed ndisgtk, wouldn't that be a dependancy?16:15
padhuUbuntians, i need terminal calculator little bit more feature than bc for some scientific calculation and memory is must16:15
lomo7OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.16:15
lomo7OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)16:15
lomo7OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0.316:15
lomo7OpenGL shading language version string: 1.2016:15
lomo7OpenGL extensions:16:15
FloodBot1lomo7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:15
Gneavic: unlock how? what modem?16:16
betraydJasonGriffee: had you not installed the 3 packages listed on that website16:16
lomo7OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.16:16
lomo7OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)16:16
lomo7OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0.316:16
lomo7OpenGL shading language version string: 1.2016:16
lomo7OpenGL extensions:16:16
FloodBot1lomo7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:16
lomo7BluesKaj_: oops16:16
Gnea!pastebin | lomo716:16
ubottulomo7: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:16
vicgnea: huawei, its network locked16:16
lordduneBostoman: has these 2 lines > SHELL=/bin/sh,  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin, and the 4 cron command lines16:16
pmantisHi guys. I upgrade my desktop with an ATI video card from 12.10 to 13.04. Then had low graphics mode. Tried to reset Xorg (delete config, reboot). I have a graphical session now, but unity won't load. No menu, no window decorations, etc. Ideas?16:16
lomo7BluesKaj_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609009/16:17
Bostomanlorddune, hmmmmm I think you need to look in tiger's configuration somewhere16:17
Gneavic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei16:17
betraydJasonGriffee:  -common, -utils, and ndisgtk16:17
padhupmantis: try with stable version driver16:17
vicGnea: checking16:18
pmantispadhu, I've removed the ATI card now, and back to Intel on-board for now. Reinstalling the ATI drivers failed on DKMS.16:18
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JasonGriffeebetrayd: -common is newest version -utils was replaced by common, ndisgtk is installed.16:19
* pmantis should have uninstalled theATI drivers prior to upgrade.. Can't uninstall, the uninstallation fails with a "files changed since installation" message.16:20
vicGnea: that link dont have the information i need16:20
betraydJasonGriffee: so run ndisgtk in a terminal and pick install common fomr it, we can monitor its progress on both the window and terminal16:20
JasonGriffeebetrayd: what are you talking about?16:21
dank101-welpi'm going to reboot16:21
dank101-welpand if these drivers don't work16:21
dank101-welpi will kill something16:21
Bostomandinner time16:21
betraydJasonGriffee: u asked earlier betrayd: ndiswrapper-common?16:22
BluesKaj_lomo7, I'm not sure then which ati driver you need , perhaps someone with an ati card or more ati experience can help you , I have to leave , so good luck.16:22
JasonGriffeebetrayd: I tryed installing that, said had latest version.16:23
betraydwhich is good16:23
betraydit's smart enough16:24
JasonGriffeebetrayd: so what's my problem?16:24
bitdealeranyone up for a noob question?16:25
betraydwhere did it put them, try a dpkg-query -L pacakgename16:25
Awwbitdealer, sure16:25
thubtumbingbitdealer, shoot16:25
betraydJasonGriffee but ndisgtk knows where they are16:25
bitdealerthx. new to iinux trying to install opencl/16:25
JasonGriffeebetrayd: so, what do I do next?16:26
bitdealerthought i could figure out linux,. HAH16:26
betraydJasonGriffee: what we are after is to copy them to the right place .. might be like16:26
danielhelp16:26
danieli got unity to work16:27
thubtumbingcongrats16:27
danielbut now my resulution is shit16:27
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bitdealerI think I got pyopencl and wxpython but don't know how to check16:27
dank101so bad unity is cut off16:27
dank101how do i fix?16:27
bitdealer13.0416:28
dank101and settings won't help16:28
pmantisIs there a way to have Ubuntu re-detect displays and inputs and rebuild the X config?16:28
bitdealernew to irc too so sorry for stepping on toes16:28
betraydJasonGriffee: might be someplace like /lib/modules16:29
JasonGriffeebetrayd: command?16:29
walter_quien me puede ayudar a instalar LAMP Server en Xubuntu 12.1016:29
thubtumbingbitdealer, so you can't install opencl? or does it do strange things?16:29
auronandace!lamp | walter_16:29
ubottuwalter_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.16:29
dank101Help16:29
betrayd JasonGriffee cp /from/whatdir/ndiswrapper /tothis/place16:30
bitdealernot sure how and can't find documentation other than cryptic (to me)16:30
OerHeksdank101 i still thinks you have optimus, see the supported cards > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-319.12-driver.html16:30
dank101this res is so bad16:30
betraydJasonGriffee: thas on my system (not buntu at the moment)16:30
dank101OerHeks, i have a 550m16:30
dank101i installed bumblebeee16:30
limitadohello,can anybody help me. Iam trying to make windows my defaultbooting system.i have tried wih startuup manager and editing the grub file, so far no luck.16:31
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee16:31
dank101it's a optimus16:31
dank101but i installed bumblebee16:31
dank101and now the res is so bad unity is cut off16:31
thubtumbingbitdealer, http://develnoter.blogspot.be/2012/05/installing-opencl-in-ubuntu-1204.html ?16:31
betraydlimitado: after editing run the update grub command16:31
theGK01hello16:32
dank101bumblebee is the ONLY thing keeping my computer USEABLE16:32
dank101F**k it16:33
limitadobetrayd: Idid!but it didn't work! :(16:33
dank101PURGE EVERYTHING NVIDIA16:33
JasonGriffeebetrayd: and the directories are?16:33
bitdealertried that with the amd pkg which is run. outside my comfort zone if i double click and it doesn't do what it is supposed to. dbl clk and opens a blank window.16:33
dank101PURGE ALL THE THINGS16:33
KI4ROIf I remotely update/upgrade a system then do a reboot on that system is there a way to get back on it?16:33
thubtumbing"doesn't do what it is supposed to"... what does it do and what is it supposed to do?16:34
bitdealerzip so imagine the cmd is zip (instead of tar) but ready to pull my hair out over simple cmds in linux. reminds me of dos but that was a few years ago. ARGH!16:34
limitadobetrayd: any idea?16:34
theGK01anyone with knowledge about iso's and/or MBR+ext3-Filesystems? :S16:34
thubtumbingyou need to extract a zip?16:34
betraydlimitado: did u run the update grub command16:35
bitdealerlike i said. complete noob. back to the basics.16:35
bitdealeryep16:35
HelloWorld321Is there a standard keyboard shortcut to activate the menu?  In the old MSXL, if I hit <Alt>, then I could access hotkeys for most menu items.  What's the equivalent in Ubuntu for LibreOffice?16:35
thubtumbingjust double click it16:35
limitadobetrayd: yes, indeed, but after that, i rebooted and it didn't change16:35
theGK01yep16:35
thubtumbingand copy past the contents to your desktop or another place16:35
bitdealeri did and blank window. close window and 'cancels'16:35
betraydlimitado: what command16:35
thubtumbingok16:35
thubtumbinggimme the url of the zip16:35
betraydlimitado: we need to know16:36
bitdealerdiff machine. hold a sec16:36
thubtumbingsure16:36
limitadobetrayd: mmm,the one specified i the grub file sudo update-grub16:36
shockerhttp://imagebin.org/255597   any one know how to solve this issue?16:36
betraydlimitado: what destination16:37
limitadobetrayd: mmm, according to the tutorial i read,non destination was needed16:37
OerHeksshocker, if all pictures are that way, get anew camera16:37
bitdealerhttp://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-catalyst-13.4-linux-x86.x86_64.zip16:38
Bostoman40plusstillrockin.com16:38
betraydhmmm JasonGriffee the page even goes to 12.10, are you on 12.10 now16:38
shockerOerHeks.. no its not the pic's problem.. this is how i see it within linux.. all the pics in browsers, videos, everything is this way16:38
JasonGriffee13.0416:38
thubtumbingbitdealer, you see the amd-catalyst-... file when you open the zip file?16:39
betraydlimitado: so it most likely went to...16:39
bitdealeryes and click on the .run file which gives me the .zip file16:39
thubtumbinglol16:40
thubtumbingok16:40
thubtumbingi'm gonna get you through it16:40
limitadobetrayd: to the infinite?16:40
bitdealerso funny to you  hahahaha lol16:40
bitdealerty16:40
thubtumbingno16:40
thubtumbingnot funny16:40
thubtumbingi've been there too16:40
bitdealerno more laughing. yes it is16:40
bitdealerI am rothflmao16:40
thubtumbing:-)16:40
RainbowWhow do i trace the order in which apache is traversing vhost files to service a request? 10.04, apache is working but serving incorrect directories and i can't figure out why. is it reading /etc/apache2/sites-enabled in alpha order? or some other order?16:41
thubtumbingright click on the .run file16:41
thubtumbingthen go to permissions16:41
thubtumbingand check the "allow executing..." thing16:41
betraydlimitado: seems like it. if you go into edit, do you see the changes you made?16:42
thubtumbingtell me when you got there16:42
limitadobetrayd: so let me get thisstraiht, if windows is my 4th option, i just have to edit the grub file, and then select 3 (because it istarts from 0, right), then i run the update command ttargeting the destination filew, right?16:42
bitdealerlets back up a step. on the zip file and dbl click16:42
thubtumbingyes16:43
betraydlimitado: in a nutshell16:43
bitdealerrc on .run and no permission16:43
bitdealers16:43
thubtumbingwait16:43
limitadobetrayd: nutshell?16:43
betraydlimitado: a lot of people forget its sda or sdb not sda1 nor sdb116:43
bitdealerdo i need to extract first?16:43
thubtumbingyes16:43
thubtumbingright click16:43
thubtumbingextract to ...16:44
limitadobetrayd: as i recall, those are differences to the hard drive, what do you mean by nutshell?16:44
thubtumbingi would say desktop16:44
FloodBot1thubtumbing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:44
betraydlimitado: its an expression like in short16:44
ro9hello16:44
betraydor in other words16:44
limitadobetrayd: oh ok, sorry16:44
bitdealersorry already did it in the home folder. is that ok or I need to do it again?16:44
thubtumbingthat's ok16:45
betraydlimitado: not a problem at all16:45
bitdealerstill no permissions16:45
melvster1Oh Noes!   have virtual desktops (workspaces) been removed in 13.04?   I only have one now!16:45
thubtumbingi'm gonna open a private chatroom to you16:45
bitdealerk16:45
ahalversonmelvster1: they havent been removed, go to system settings and click on appearance16:46
DJonesmelvster1: No, System settings, Appearance, Behaviour tab, Enable workspaces should get you sorted16:46
melvster1phew thanks!  DJones ahalverson ... i wonder why that was changed ... it's ubuntu's best feature ..16:48
melvster1omg it's fast now tho!16:48
roklykthatI love the workspaces ;P16:48
johnjohn1011why did they remove workspaces, just curious.16:49
roklykthatthey weren't removed?16:49
melvster1johnjohn1011: you can turn it back on, i just have16:49
johnjohn1011as a default.16:49
melvster1it's just the default setting16:49
Myrttijohnjohn1011: ctrl-alt-arrow should work for changing what workspace you're on afaik16:49
ahalversonjohnjohn: dont know, i liked workspaces as well16:49
melvster1but 80% of users tend to use the default setting so it's an important change16:49
ahalversonyeah16:50
melvster1i use hotkeys16:50
ahalversonmyrtti: thanks16:50
floridsdorfhi16:52
ahalversonhi16:52
wiseyso it is possible to install ubuntu to a usb flash drive?16:52
roklykthathi16:52
ahalversonwisey: yes16:52
roklykthaterm, yes16:52
roklykthatshould be16:52
wiseythat is so awesome16:53
roklykthatbuntu is awesome =P16:53
ahalversonwisey: just run the install cd and select the usb as the hard disk16:53
ravigehlotI have got PulseAudio installed. I can play audio from the console using aplay. However, on Xorg, I can't hear anything even though videos plays and the sound bar moves up and down.16:53
ahalversonrun "alsamixer" in terminal16:54
ravigehlotI did16:54
red22I have 12.10 installed and the 13.04 desktop iso saved on my machine... Anyone know how I can make update/upgrades use that local iso to save download time please?16:54
ahalversonhmm16:54
ahalversonburn to disk and upgrade off of it16:54
ravigehlotIt plays music through the console16:55
ravigehlotnot problems16:55
ravigehlotno*16:55
ahalversonred22: you got a dvd?16:55
wiseyroklykthat :: my PowerBook G4 is not usb-bootable because the guy who wrote Open Firmware told my technician personally. But I have a desktop pc with BIOS that would probably be usb-bootable.16:55
ravigehlotyes16:55
FloodBot1ravigehlot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:55
ravigehlotI do16:55
wiseyI will give it a try16:55
ioubuntuhello. i need some help to check out if i have the right ati driver installed16:55
ahalversonioubuntu: whats your card16:56
ravigehlotNVIDIA16:56
ioubuntuahalverson: ati hd 435016:56
ahalversonioubuntu: checked additional drivers?16:56
red22ahalverson, I don't have any blank ones on me so I tried booting via usb (but no option to upgrade via that) so then I'm now trying to use the img as a source directly...16:57
ioubuntuwell, the problem is that i am in ubuntu 13.04 using unity. is not that i liked it, i tried to get to Hardware Drivers but i can't find it. though even if i know it should appear itself to tell me that some drivers are available16:57
ioubuntunothing happens16:57
asdf___hi16:57
ioubuntuhow can i do that in 13.04 ubuntu ?16:57
ahalversonioubuntu: what exactly is the problem16:58
kielanmatthello how can I get kernel headers for version 3.8.10 ?16:58
SonikkuAmericaWhat. Happened. To. Empathy.16:58
kielanmattI need to compile my own glibc for my application16:58
asdf___I need script for remove Ubuntu and Canonical trademarked material in distro. I want make my own OS based on Ubuntu. Help plz16:59
ioubuntuahalverson: well, sometimes the screen flickers for like a milisecond. that looks like not updated drivers16:59
red22ahalverson, any reason why it all would work via cd and not via an img?  Could we fool the machine into seeing the img file as a cd/dvd?  I see that the software sources window allows you to add a cd/dvd as an official source for ubuntu but not a folder or img :/16:59
ioubuntuahalverson: i want to check to see if i am right16:59
ahalversonioubuntu: try thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138305416:59
ahalversonoops17:00
SonikkuAmericaasdf___: We don't exactly support that here. Have you tried Debian?17:00
ahalversonioubuntu: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138305417:00
kostkon_ioubuntu: it's in the "software &updates", search for it17:00
asdf___i want Ubuntu17:00
ahalversonioubuntu: does it flicker while on the dash?17:00
ioubuntuahalverson: nope. i will try that solution,maybe works..17:01
ahalversonred22: you could find a program that mounts the .iso17:01
SonikkuAmericaasdf___: Ubuntu itself is based on Debian though.17:01
ahalversonred22: i dont know of any, but i am sure that they have them in software center17:01
ahalversonbrb17:02
red22ahalverson, will brb lemme search for that.. I just used bash commands to mount the iso as recommended on several forums, but maybe easier with a program made for it, true.  Will let you know, thanks.17:02
gabrielkhi guys. Just installed lubuntu 12.04 on an old laptop. I'm wondering why version 13 doesn't show up in the update manager? I only got version 12.10 to show up, even though I set the options to show latest version instantly...?17:03
ahalversonioubuntu: got to go, hope i was of assistance17:03
OerHeksasdf___, so you want to make your own distro, but you don't know hwto remove some legal stuff ?17:04
rasha666hi, i need help. After upgrading my ubuntu 12.10 on 13.04 it started making problems with wireless. It hardly ever connects to router, and when i do. it lasts less then 1 minute17:04
DJonesgabrielk: You can't upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 directly, you have to go through 12.10 first17:04
Awwgabrielk, You have to update to 12.10 before you can update to 13.0417:04
asdf___yes17:04
SonikkuAmericagabrielk: (There's a #lubuntu channel) That's because you can only upgrade to the next version at a time.17:04
asdf___me need remove logos and other trademarks17:04
harrishow do i install a exe17:04
gabrielkah thanks guys. I was suspecting that MIGHT be the case :) Currently upgrading to 12.10. Thanks! :)17:04
Awwharris, use wine17:05
DJones!wine | harris Wine may be work, join ##winehq to check whether it will,17:05
ubottuharris Wine may be work, join ##winehq to check whether it will,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:05
SonikkuAmericaFun fact: Wine also has its own version of msiexec for Windows installer packages.17:05
ioubuntuahalverson: u there?17:05
harrisi only have the wine package manager is that it17:05
SonikkuAmericaYeah.17:06
rasha666hi, i need help. After upgrading my ubuntu 12.10 on 13.04 it started making problems with wireless. It hardly ever connects to router, and when i do. it lasts less then 1 minute17:06
harrisi mean configure wine17:06
asdf___Ubuntu is open source - you may freely remove the Ubuntu trademarks from source packages, recompile the source code to create your own binaries and thereby eliminate Canonical copyrights, creating your own derivative distribution17:06
SonikkuAmericaharris: Oh. All you have to do is use Nautilus to navigate to the EXE, right-click and select "Open with Wine Windows Program Loader.17:06
SonikkuAmerica"17:06
asdf___Oo me must recompil all packages?17:07
Dr_willisharris,  wine /path/to/thething.exe17:07
chaotixhello...  where can i go to submit a suggestion about this?   keyboards sold on shop.ubuntu.com should have an ubuntu logo on the super key instead of windows key.17:07
SonikkuAmericaharris: What Dr_willis said works too.17:07
DJones!brainstorm | chaotix17:07
ubottuchaotix: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!17:07
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Dr_willischaotix,  I belive they do sell sticker kits. :)17:07
harrisSonikkuAmerica, i clicked and nothing happended17:08
asdf___any help plesae17:08
Dr_willisharris,  dont click, use the cli. easier to see error messages17:08
harris/home/harris/Downloads17:08
SonikkuAmericaharris: I said: Right-click the exe and select Open with Wine Windows Program Loader.17:08
harrisi did17:08
rasha666Anyone to help me?717:08
SonikkuAmericaharris: It should be running.17:08
SonikkuAmericarasha666: Give us a second! :)17:08
harrisis this what i type  wine /home/harris/Downloads17:09
Dr_willisharris,  wine /path/to/thething.exe17:09
asdf___ok Ubuntu is copyright?17:09
harrisexactly like that ok17:09
Dr_willisharris,  giveing it just the path and not the name..makes little sence17:09
asdf___"Ubuntu"17:09
SonikkuAmerica!info playonlinux | harris: You also might try PlayOnLinux, which is a Wine frontend that lets you install and configure Windows programs the way you wish17:09
ubottuharris: You also might try PlayOnLinux, which is a Wine frontend that lets you install and configure Windows programs the way you wish: playonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.1.1-1 (raring), package size 1436 kB, installed size 3507 kB17:09
rasha666SonikkuAmerica, ofc17:09
fmkcould anyone help me setup m graphics driver, please?17:10
chaotixthanks, DJones17:10
OerHeksasdf___, try #linux, this is not the channel for making your own ubuntu.17:10
SonikkuAmericarasha666: So, a wireless problem... what wireless card do you have?17:10
asdf___my os will be based on Ubuntu17:10
harris/home/harris/Downloads/Clash\ of\ Clans\ Hack\ [MEGA\ Version].exe17:10
rasha666SonikkuAmerica, Built in my laptop17:10
asdf___and will use ubuntu packages and repo17:10
SonikkuAmericaasdf___: (OerHeks: You mean ##linux, right?)17:11
asdf___help plz17:11
harrisor wine /home/harris/Downloads/Clash\ of\ Clans\ Hack\ [MEGA\ Version].exe17:11
Dr_willisharris,  might be easier if you rename it to remove the spaces  and special haracters17:11
SonikkuAmericarasha666: Run [ lspci ] in a terminal.17:11
asdf___ Cannot send to channel: ##linux17:11
OerHeksSonikkuAmerica, asdf___  my bad, double # > ##linux17:11
Dr_willis!remaster | asdf___17:11
ubottuasdf___: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility17:11
SonikkuAmericarasha666: One second17:11
asdf___ Cannot send to channel: ##linux17:11
OerHeks!register | asdf___17:11
ubottuasdf___: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode17:11
DJonesasdf___: This channel is for support with using Ubuntu, there's probably not many people here that will have built their own distro, ##linux might have more help17:11
asdf___no17:11
asdf___help here please17:12
asdf___i want use ubuntu17:12
Dr_willisstart by reading the remaster URL info the bot said asdf___17:12
asdf___linux its only kernel17:12
Dr_willisasdf___,  askubuntu.com also has some guides  on remastering your own  ubuntu variant17:12
harrisit says Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.17:12
DJonesasdf___: We can help using Ubuntu, as I said, building your own disto based on Ubuntu isn't really a topic for this channel17:13
Dr_willisharris,  install mono from the repos17:13
asdf___ok ill back17:13
harrisis it in software center17:13
RainbowWi'm trying to do a virtualhost in apache ... config is thus: http://pastebin.ca/2368246 ... but when i try to access it, it gives me the documentroot of a different virtualhost. what am i missing about tracing this error?17:15
Dr_willis!mono17:15
DJonesharris: Have you looked to see if its in Software Centre?17:16
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harrisim trying to use play on linux17:16
Dr_willis!pol17:16
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis, that !command doesn't exist.17:16
Dr_willisSonikkuAmerica,  the bot messeged me  that it dosent exist..17:17
OerHeksDr_willis, !poll17:17
Dr_willisi think theres a play on linux factoid.17:17
SonikkuAmerica!playonlinux17:17
SonikkuAmericaNope, not that.17:17
harris!PoL17:18
harrisnope17:18
OerHeks!info playonlinux17:18
ubottuplayonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.1.1-1 (raring), package size 1436 kB, installed size 3507 kB17:18
SonikkuAmericaThe PPA for it has the latest version.17:19
harris!info17:20
harristheres like no differnece between 12.10 and 13.0417:21
thubtumbing!info17:21
SonikkuAmericaharris: I beg to differ!17:21
harrisbesides the launcher icons17:21
Dr_willisThere a great many polish and changes..17:21
haysubuntu is still telling me there is a new release and to type do-release-update to get it, when I've already updated like yesterday17:21
hayssmall bug?17:21
SonikkuAmericaharris: Hit your power button and tell me if that looks anything like the GTK+ shutdown screen.17:21
harrisand that17:21
Dr_willishttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/new-ubuntu-13-04-features17:21
SonikkuAmericaAnd what about the tablet optimization thing? I can use my Wacom tablet in its horizontal mode with no problems.17:22
SonikkuAmericaBy the way, is there a way to rotate the lightdm login screen?17:22
harriswhat is a wacom tablet17:22
Dr_willisSpit and Polish and  tweaks..17:22
SonikkuAmerica!wacom17:22
Dr_willisSonikkuAmerica,  Hmm. How do you rotate it as a user?17:22
harris!wacom-tablet17:23
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: I use the Displays option in System Settings. But that's only after I'm logged in.17:23
SonikkuAmericaharris: www.wacom.com17:23
SonikkuAmericaYou'll see examples.17:23
Troy^anyone using gnome ubuntu?17:23
SonikkuAmericaTroy^: Check in #ubuntu-gnome17:24
Dr_willisSonikkuAmerica,  theres ways to run  the same tool as the lightdm user i belive and  the setings would get applied to the lightdm login screen. Or you could use xrandr from the lightdm startup scripts perhaps17:24
Dr_willisSonikkuAmerica,  might be a setting in the lightdm configs also17:24
Troy^SonikkuAmerica: thanks17:24
harrishow do i install http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html without play on linux or wine17:24
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: Might give it a shot17:24
Dr_willisharris,   we said earlier..  install MONO if it wants mono.   then  wine /path/to/the/game.exe17:25
harrisi cant find mono17:25
Dr_willisharris,  wine runs windows exe's  thats its job. play on linux uses wine17:25
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Dr_willis!find mono17:25
ubottuFound: fonts-tlwg-mono, libmono-2.0-1, libmono-2.0-1-dbg, libmono-2.0-dev, libmono-accessibility2.0-cil, libmono-accessibility4.0-cil, libmono-c5-1.1-cil, libmono-cairo2.0-cil, libmono-cairo4.0-cil, libmono-cecil-private-cil (and 251 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mono&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all17:25
Solotovhi hi17:25
Dr_willissearched for 'mono' using the package manager tools yet?17:25
SonikkuAmericaOuch, OhForgetMyNick was me.17:25
harrisidk how to get there17:26
SonikkuAmerica(My 3rd nick attempt. I wonder what's using the second one?)17:26
Dr_willis!manual  | harris17:26
ubottuharris: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:26
Dr_willisharris,  use apt-cache search mono. or fire up software center and search.17:27
Dr_willisor use synaptic if you want somting more old skool17:27
Solotovsomeone knows if exist spaniard Ubuntu channel?17:27
DJones!es | Solotov17:27
ubottuSolotov: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:27
Dr_willis!info mono-complete17:27
ubottumono-complete (source: mono): complete Mono runtime, development tools and all libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.8.1-5ubuntu1 (raring), package size 8 kB, installed size 54 kB17:27
Solotovthnks :)17:28
harrisi ran sudo apt-cache search mono17:28
Dr_willisharris,   mono-complete (source: mono): complete Mono runtime,17:29
harrisbash: syntax error near unexpected token `source:'17:29
Dr_willisharris,  you ran what command exactly?17:29
harrissudo mono-complete (source: mono): complete Mono runtime17:30
Dr_willisharris,  time to learn some basics of useing the system i think... tha twas NOT a command i gave.. but the name and info of the package that apt-cache search  showed...17:30
Dr_willisthe package name IS as the bot said 'mono-complete'17:31
harrisi just want to install that17:31
Dr_willisthats what you want to install for mono 2.10.8.117:31
harrisso sudo apt-get install for mono 2.10.8.117:32
Dr_willisthe package name IS as the bot said 'mono-complete'17:32
harrisyes17:32
ShogootHi people. I had my ubuntuserver file server up and go. I recentrly moved the server to another room and now all the sudden i can't access my fileserver...  can anyone help em troubleshoot this? My smb.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609287/ My stuff is at line 281 to 297    /media/nm is accesible trough putty...17:32
Dr_willissudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME17:32
KionI tried to update from the .iso image and I am reporting that if you have already a dual boot it will not let you upgrade from the .iso17:33
KionThe option appears greyed out17:33
alo21hi all... i have a problem with ubuntu 13.04,  which crashes due to my b43 wireless card17:34
BostomanShogoot, what do you mean with media/nm is accesible through putty?17:34
alo21that means I can't install raring on my pc17:34
alo21 how can I fix it?17:34
ShogootBostoman, that is a USB HDD attached to the server amchine wich contains all my files. Im buiying two more next month to set up a simple raid5.17:35
ShogootBostoman, i know the disk is accessible by putyy 8the files exists wich im trying to reffer to in smb.conf at line 281 and down there.17:35
excelsio1so do I upgrade to 12.04 or 13.04?17:36
harriscan someone please figure out how to install http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html17:36
Dr_willisShogoot,  check ownership and permissions of the /media/nm directory . it might have changed.17:36
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Dr_willisharris,  whats the issue now? you installed mono. then did wine to run the exe?17:37
saymhola17:37
Shogootoh shit sorry17:37
saymalguien habla español aca?17:37
ShogootDr_willis,17:37
Shogootdrwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm17:37
DJones!es | saym17:37
ubottusaym: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:37
harrishow did i install mono17:37
Shogootsaym, Si,pero si necesitas ayuda EN español ve a #ubuntu-es17:38
Dr_willisharris,  you install the 'mono-complete' package as we mentioned earlier....17:38
saymthanks :)17:38
pianogmxwhere and who do I talk to figure out how I can contribute my time to the ubuntu project?17:38
excelsio1I understand another option is monthly rolling updates? I'm concerned about getting behind in terms of grub or ext.17:38
DJones!contribute | pianogmx17:38
ubottupianogmx: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu17:38
harrisso sudo apt-get install for mono 2.10.8.117:38
Dr_willisexcelsio1,  i doubt if grub is going to  change a loit.17:38
excelsio1so do I upgrade to 12.04 or 13.04? or the monthly rolling?17:38
Dr_willisharris,  you install the 'mono-complete' package  the package NAME is 'mono-complete'   NOT "mono"\17:39
harrishow did we do that????17:39
ShogootDr_willis, i dont know if this is how its suposed to be. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory17:39
Shogootdrwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm17:39
DJonesexcelsio1: There isn't a monthly rolling version of Ubuntu17:39
* harris so confused17:39
Dr_willisharris, -->  sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME   and the package name IS 'mono-complete'17:39
excelsio113.04 only gets 9 months support.. (where did I read about monthly updates?...)17:39
xyxxyhello, I've botted my dad's hacked-probably-part-of-a-botnet windows machine using the ubuntu live cd. I have the terminal open, I just need to know the command to reformat the entire hard drive and start fresh. i'm planning on reinstalling windows17:39
Dr_willisharris, so by yusing the package NAME you get the command -->  sudo apt-get install mono-complete17:40
harrisyes17:40
DJonesexcelsio1: It was a propsal, but it was decided not to go ahead with a rolling release17:40
iBelieveI'm planning on installing Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Arch Linux, with an additional data partition, making a a total of 5 partitions. Since I can't use just primary partitions, what is the best way to partition the drive?17:40
Dr_willisharris,  so what COMMAND are youy trying to use to install the mono packages?17:40
harrissudo apt-get install mono-complete17:40
Dr_willisiBelieve,  you can just nstall kubuntu-desktop on top of the ubuntu install. and use either desktop at login17:40
OerHeksharris, "Only thing that you have to do before you download Clash of Clans Hack Tool is to Share this page on Facebook and Google+!  If you skip this step, the tool might not work! " lolz17:42
excelsio1DJones: thank17:42
excelsio1you17:42
ShogootDr_willis, i dont know if this is how its suposed to be. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm17:42
iBelieveDr_willis: If I did that, I could just use 4 primary partitions then?17:42
harrisreally!!!!!! like that makes a difference17:42
excelsio1So should I hop on the bleeding edge?17:42
excelsio1any danger in it?17:42
atrusis it odd that updates in precise-security have a priority set to "low"?17:42
atruss/priority/urgency/17:42
excelsio1I *could* dual boot for it, suggestions?17:42
Dr_willisiBelieve,  you tell me. ;)   im not adding up all your disrtos. theres not much need to install a seperate kubuntu and ubuntu install is all im saying.17:42
excelsio1I want to do this today, though...17:43
xyxxyhello, I've botted my dad's hacked-probably-part-of-a-botnet windows machine using the ubuntu live cd. I have the terminal open, I just need to know the command to reformat the entire hard drive and start fresh. i'm planning on reinstalling windows17:43
Dr_willisxyxxy,  you mean DELETE everything on the windows hard drive? use gparted to delete the partions and remake them if you want17:43
thubtumbingfdisk /dev/sda17:43
chaotixhello...  i need to make a nautilus script that opens the file in Gedit...  here is one that opens gksu gedit...  i would like to change it so that it opens gedit not as root...  it isnt as simple as you would think, as you will see if you look...  can someone help me with this??17:44
chaotixhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5609331/17:44
OerHeksxyxxy, step 1: unmount the hdd, and step2: start gparted to erase17:44
chaotixyou can just paste the finished script to paste.ubuntu.com17:44
Dr_willisxyxxy,  a gparted live cd is a handy tool to keep in your pc toolbox.17:44
chaotixi can not figure this out, please help17:44
iBelieveI'm rather confused about primary/extended partitions. Do I need one or the other, or can they all be primary, or all be logical on a extended partition?17:44
chaotix:)17:44
xyxxythank you! :-)17:44
Dr_willisiBelieve,  you can have 4 primary. one can be an 'extended' that holds a huge # of logicsls17:44
excelsio1If I get on the bleeding edge, should I go with 13.04 instead of 12.04?17:44
betraydiBelieve: you have to have 1 primary17:44
excelsio1\What's teh difference?17:44
Dr_willisiBelieve,  linux is perfecatly happy to use logicals.17:44
betraydiBelieve: max of four17:45
Dr_willisexcelsio1,  bleeding edge of what?17:45
wilee-nileelol17:45
excelsio1you know, the constant update/upgrade cycle17:45
Dr_willis12.04 is not going to be 'bleeding edge' of much17:45
thubtumbingexcelsio1, 13.417:45
Dr_willisif you want the latest vbersions of packages.. go with the latest release. and use ppas for stuff you need updated17:45
OerHeksiBelieve, there is a max of 4 primairy possible on 1 hdd, but you can make one extended partition, that can have more partitions if you need it.17:45
excelsio1I have it ready to go, I'll have to download teh 13.04...17:46
iBelievebetrayd, Dr_willis: thanks.17:46
goonface13.04 is it good17:46
excelsio1If no diff, I'll just install the 12, and upgrade to 13 and stay on the upgrade.17:46
Kionis there a ppa for libreoffice?17:46
excelsio1If there's a difference, i'll download first.17:46
ahalversongoonface: yeah, though not as great as i expected17:46
excelsio1Please advise17:46
Dr_willisexcelsio1,  if its a new clean install.. theres no point in installing an older release then upgradeing17:47
kristofI hoped to connect my laptop to the TV set with a VGA cable and simply change screens (as I'd do with a projector screen), but this doesn't seem to work. A google search was also fruitless. What am I forgetting, or what should I've done first?17:47
Dr_willisexcelsio1,  it will take 3x as long to get installed that way17:47
excelsio1ok, I'll download the 13.04 install17:47
chaotixgoonface, 13.04 was too buggy for me, so i downgraded, but others say they like it17:47
Dr_willistorrents for 13.04 should be blazeing fast right now17:47
iBelieveOerHeks: So should I put the two linux distros on two primaries, and then data and swap on logical? Or put data on primary and everything else on logical partitions?17:47
excelsio1thanks for the advice. I just never upgrade when the LTS comes out.17:47
Dr_willisiBelieve,  it really dosent matter much17:47
excelsio1I've been meaning to for a year now.17:48
excelsio1backing up my home dir, and going for it. Thanks!17:48
punterIs the system-tray gone completely in Ubuntu 13.04? Or can application adapt to 13.04 to have their icon displayed there?17:48
iBelieveDr_willis: Okay, thanks.17:49
lordduneBostoman: I have been digging deeper into Tiger processes, found this >>> Make system-specific checks every day at 1 am # Notice: System specific checks can be enabled in the  # $OS/$REL/$ARCH/check script or run independently as in the # commented line below # 1 * * check_system # Notice: this checks are Debian-specific, enabling them is  # redundant with Linux checks. #1 * *deb_checkmd5sums deb_nopackfiles deb_checkadvisories17:49
Dr_willishttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/raring-retires-system-tray-whitelist     punter17:49
milessabinCan anyone help me out with a USB 2.0 vs. 3.0 issue?17:51
Bostomanlorddune, great!17:52
ahalversonmilessabin: whats the prob?17:52
milessabinI'm affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1102797 and looking for a workaround.17:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1006011 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1102797 0763:2080 M-Audio Fast Track Ultra on XHCI isn't recognized" [Medium,Triaged]17:52
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Dr_willis!torrents17:53
ubottuRaring can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/server/ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696917:53
milessabinahalverson: Ignore the duplicate ... I have exactly the Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 problem.17:53
ahalversonok looking into it17:53
exetercan we isntall linux mint with windows 817:53
exeter??17:53
SonikkuAmerica!mint17:53
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:53
exeterubottu: Kali is supported??17:54
SonikkuAmerica!backtrack17:54
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)17:54
mylezzzI recently installed an update and now my icon-theme will not load. In Dconf it is set as the default theme. When I try to load it using gsettings it comes up with a long error ending "X11 initialization failed". I have tried removing the theme and reinstalling it. I have renamed .Xauthority. Anyone have any ideas?17:55
Dr_willisexeter,  Kali Linux has its own support channels.. its not an official ubuntu release17:55
Sagitthi17:55
lordduneBostoman: well it's great but now I don't know what to do with that information17:55
Sagitti've an asus 1001px and i've installed the new ubuntu 13.0417:55
SonikkuAmerica!flavors | exeter, here's what we support17:55
ubottuexeter, here's what we support: !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio,  !Mythbuntu, and !Lubuntu17:55
Sagitthow i can disable effects?17:56
doebiwhy does ubuntu block the usage of tlmgr in latex packages?17:56
ahalversonmilessabin: it says to plug it in to the 2.0 slot17:56
doebihow am i suppoed to install custom latex packages then?17:56
Dr_willisSagitt,  you want to use the unity desktop? or  somthing lighter?17:56
SonikkuAmerica(That factoid needs changing to say Unity instead of GNOME.)17:56
milessabinahalverson: I don't have any usb 2.0 ports on this machine.17:56
Bostomanlorddune, try to find the mentioned script and edit it17:56
SagittDr_willis: i want ubuntu, no other distro17:57
Sagittbut i want unity without all effects17:57
Sagittlike trasparency and other17:57
ahalversonmilessabin: i wish i could say that17:57
Sagittbecause when i run dash search and other things like this all go slow17:57
celsopeople, does ubuntu 13.04 disable compiz on fullscreen?17:57
SonikkuAmericaSagitt: That might be a bit hard to roll out.17:57
Dr_willisSagitt,  theres no longer a Unity-2d  as of 12.10+17:57
milessabinahalverson: If I had a USB 2.0 hub handy I would try using the scanner via that, but I don't unfortunately.17:58
lordduneBostoman: yeah, i've been reading the Tiger process commands, it seems they use modules to run everything. Guess I will continue this at a later time, thanks for your help I truly apreciate it.17:58
doebihow am i suppoed to install custom latex packages then?17:58
SagittDr_willis: so i've to install other distro?17:58
Sagittlike xubuntu?17:58
SonikkuAmerica!flavors | Sagitt, that might be a good suggestion17:58
ubottuSagitt, that might be a good suggestion: !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio,  !Mythbuntu, and !Lubuntu17:58
Bostomanno problem17:58
SonikkuAmericas/GNOME/Unity17:58
ahalversonmilessabin: but how would you connect the hub other than to the 3.0 port17:58
Dr_willisSagitt,  lubuntu is ubuntu with a differnt desktop. You can easially install the xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop package on top of ubuntu and use that desktop17:59
SonikkuAmericaSagitt: So is Kubuntu.17:59
Sagittwell so i can install xubuntu desktop on this intallation right?17:59
celsoDr_willis : would that bring stability to unity?17:59
SonikkuAmericaSagitt: [ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ]17:59
Dr_willis!info xubuntu-desktop17:59
ubottuxubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.165 (raring), package size 3 kB, installed size 43 kB17:59
Sagittand use it or unity when i want?17:59
SonikkuAmericaYep18:00
celsoDr_willis : would that bring (my mistake) instability to unity?18:00
Dr_williscelso,  You wouldent be using unity if you used the subuntu desktop18:00
ahalversonmilessabin: sorry gtg, hope you figure it out18:00
Dr_willisyou select whatever desktop  you want at the login screen18:00
SonikkuAmericaSagitt: Except it might double-pull, so you'll have 2 file managers, 2 disc burners, etc.18:00
Sagittno disk space problems18:00
Sagittis a netbook18:00
Sagittis only for tests and other18:01
milessabinahalverson: I'm assuming that by passing through a USB 2.0 hub both the scanner and the laptop would operate in USB 2.0 mode (ie. using the ehci-pci kernel driver)18:01
celsoDr_willis :  so, it wuldn't make like dependency problems? in other words, is it safe?18:01
Dr_williscelso,  i have ubuntu. kubuntu, lubuntu, and gnome-0shell all installed here18:01
Dr_willisgotta love big hds18:02
celsoDr_willis :  ok. thanks. Sorry to get into the conversation but i always had that question :D18:02
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Dr_willistheres alwyas the potential for some conflict or other qirks.. but nothing major that ive ever noticed in the last few years18:02
SagittDr_willis: have all desktop18:03
Sagittneed only hdd space right?18:03
SonikkuAmericaLibreOffice REALLY needs a Unity indicator. So does Chromium.18:03
Dr_willisan indcator to do what?18:03
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: What the old systray applets did, of course.18:03
thubtumbingdoebi, what do you need for packages?18:04
Dr_willisSonikkuAmerica,  and that was?18:04
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: The Chromium systray applet managed Chromium offline, and the LibreOffice quickstarter let you do everything LibreOffice's splash screen did from the systray.18:04
doebii am installing latex on a system with limited disk space and only want to install the packages i rly need18:05
thubtumbingok18:05
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: <Chromium> As well as Chrome Extensions.18:05
varunmilessabin, by personal experience I can tell you that the USB3 hub will always be handled by xhci driver, doesn't matter whether the connected device is USB2 or USB318:05
doebiso i started with a plain install and tried to manually install using tlmgr18:05
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: Such as Chat for Google.18:05
harrisDr_willis, it mono installed so i ran the wine command same error18:05
Dr_willistheres generic indicator-applets written in python if you just want a fancy launcher cluttering up your systray18:05
doebibut fucking ubuntu doesnt want me to use tlmgr18:05
thubtumbingi don't know tlmgr18:05
doebitlmgr is latex own package manager18:06
SonikkuAmericaDr_willis: Oh. Where? I could run a search in Synaptic or Software Center...18:06
thubtumbingyou can add packages in the command line18:06
goonfaceBoot ubuntu in classic and install dock18:06
doebimaybe i can intsll same packages using apt-get but using different name conventions whcih arent documented anywhere18:06
thubtumbingfor example: sudo apt-get install texlive-lang-hebrew18:06
Dr_willisSonikkuAmerica,  right click on the icon in the unity panel. and check out the quicklists feature... you CAN add custom entrys to the right click - quicklist listing also18:06
ShogootDr_willis, i dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm18:06
BlessJahi'm interested in running do-release-upgrade in download-only mode18:06
harrisDr_willis, it mono installed so i ran the wine command same error18:06
BlessJahis there such posibility?18:06
doebithubtumbing: i know but as i just said, i dont know the names ubuntu uses18:06
milessabinvarun: the port itself is fine ... I can use other USB 2.0 and 3.0 devices on it without problem. It seems to be specifically a combination of USB 3.0 and that device. The device itself works fine on a different machine in a USB 2.0 port. Don't you think an intermediary USB 2.0 hub might help in that case?18:07
doebifor example i want o instal latex package "listings"18:07
Dr_willisharris,  wine help is best done in #winehq18:07
celsoShould i install "lubuntu-core" or "Lubuntu-Desktop"?  But i dont want the lubuntu aps. Only the window manager18:07
harriscan you send my issue there so i dont have to start over18:07
Dr_willisI always install the desktop packages.. since i want it all.18:08
Dr_willisjust the -core may not be confiured the same as a full -desktop install18:08
Dr_willissince as you said.. it wouldent install all the extra apps18:08
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thubtumbingand diskspace is really scarce?18:08
hipsterso why the hell does 'apt-get install php5' requires apache2, and how do I install php5 without that bloatware?18:08
celsoDr_willis: but wouldn't that make you have duplicate apps?18:08
ShogootI dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm Anyone that can help me out on this?18:08
Dr_willis!info php518:09
ubottuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.9-4ubuntu2 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB18:09
celsoDr_willis: but wouldn't that make you have duplicate apps? libreoffice and abiword? rhythmbox and the lubuntu music app?18:09
Flannelhipster: You're looking for php5-cli18:09
Dr_williscelso,  so? if i go to Lubuntu i want the lubuntu apps.. if i go to kubuntu, i want the kubuntu apps18:09
doebithubtumbing: i need to install it on my vserver which has 20 gigs, and besides that. why SHOULD I INSTALL 3 gigs of data when i only use 200mb???18:09
hipsterFlannel, does that includes fastcgi binary?18:09
hipster(since 'cli' in package name implies otherwise)18:09
thubtumbingyes you're right doebi18:10
thubtumbingwait18:10
Dr_willis!find fastcgi18:10
ubottuFound: libghc-fastcgi-dev, libghc-fastcgi-doc, libghc-fastcgi-prof, libmojo-server-fastcgi-perl, mono-fastcgi-server18:10
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celsoDr_willis: ahh ok.  now i understand :D18:10
celsoDr_willis: thanks  for the help :D18:10
varunmilessabin, I only have problem with my USB3 port when using a GSM modem, and the problem remains even if I connect it via a USB2 hub (I have one and have tried it). But in my case, the hub +modem has problems with USB2 port as well, so am not sure about your scenario. The only thing I'm sure is that the connection will still pass through xhci driver18:10
hipsterhm ok looks like it's php5-fpm. No idea why normal php5 package comes with that bloatware Apache, but whatever. Thanks :p18:10
Flannelhipster: No.  That includes php5 without any webserver support ("that bloatware")18:10
thubtumbingcan you tell me what package listings does? or in what "latex-package" it is normally?18:11
hipsterFlannel, webserver support != complete webserver18:11
Flannelhipster: apache is the default webserver for ubuntu, that's why.  But once you install php5-fpm, you can install 'php5' and it won't install extra stuff.  That's how packages work.  If you don't specify, you get defaults.18:11
milessabinvarun: OK, thanks. Is it possible to force the ehci driver to be used?18:11
richardbransonhello i've got problem with dns configuration, as root i can ping every server but as normal user i can ping only ip addresses. i tried to change dns servers but after restart its rolling back setting18:12
varunmilessabin, what is this machine by the way? (laptop, desktop?) and what model?18:12
doebithubtumbing: aehm it makes listings, i guess. i didnt wrote that latex file. a clleague of mine did18:12
thubtumbing...18:12
doebii just want to use tlmgr18:13
thubtumbingyou can make listings by \begin{itemize} \item...18:13
milessabinvarun: Dell XPS 13, laptop18:13
Flannelthubtumbing: Generally that sort of support is frowned upon.18:13
doebithubtumbing: i dont know latex, i am just setting up the backend for a online latex compiler18:14
ShogootI dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm Anyone that can help me out on this?18:14
thubtumbinghttp://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/73116/fresh-install-texlive-2012-ubuntu-12-04-tlmgr-nowhere-to-be-found18:14
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varunSmilessabin, OK.  sorry I missed your last question. Unfortunately, the answer is No. The USB3 can only be handled by xhci. But I'm interested in your problem. Do you have a thread on it?18:14
richardbransonexit18:14
milessabinvarun: only the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/110279718:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1006011 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1102797 0763:2080 M-Audio Fast Track Ultra on XHCI isn't recognized" [Medium,Triaged]18:15
milessabinvarun: (the original report about the scanner is exactly my problem)18:16
doebithubtumbing: ok, i see, no chance to get tlmgr. but how do i know how the package is called in apt?18:16
thubtumbingfor something as "listings" that would be hard18:17
thubtumbingjust try google for "ubuntu latex listings" ...18:17
doebitlmgr install listings18:17
doebiomg it would have been so easy... <.<18:17
thubtumbingyou can install a windows server i guess18:18
Anti-S1eepWelcome! I guess...18:19
doebithubtumbing: are you fukcing kidding me?18:19
Flannelthubtumbing: Seriously, stop being a jerk.18:19
thubtumbing??18:19
thubtumbingFlannel, what did i do?18:20
doebi20:18 < thubtumbing> you can install a windows server i guess18:20
Flannelthubtumbing: You should be helpful.  If you can't help, don't make snide remarks, just let someone else who can help, help.18:20
jp_hraniceHi, my Raring do not search online sources. What is wrong ?18:20
doebithubtumbing: it seems liek ubunut groups packages up, so i cant select them seperqatly.. which sucks..18:21
wilee-nileejp_hranice, Can you give details and context?18:21
thubtumbingFlannel, if there is a windows tool that isn't on ubuntu, and that tool is superb (according to ...), why wouldn't i recommend a way to use that tool, even if it would be by using non-linux??18:21
deadweaselHello All!  Issues:  Ubuntu 12.04 x64, any sound from the browser is popping and clicking...18:22
thubtumbingyes doebi, texlive groups them18:22
deadweaselthubtumbing:  i would guess because this is #ubuntu18:22
thubtumbing...18:22
ShogootI dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm Anyone that can help me out on this?18:22
doebithubtumbing: no, ubuntu does for use in apt-system18:22
Flannelthubtumbing: If they're in this channel, you can bet they're interested in doing it in Ubuntu, just like when they're asking about a LaTeX package, saying "just use this other thing" (which, doesn't even do the same thing) is also unhelpful.18:23
jp_hranicewilee-nilee:  Dash create error message, something is wrong my email18:23
thubtumbingFlannel, if you would have checked that article i sent you would know there isn't another solution18:23
Flanneldoebi: I believe that texlive-latex-recommended includes 'listings'.18:23
wilee-nileejp_hranice, Has the email ever worked?18:23
doebiFlannel: maybe, but there is still the problem, that i install tons of other packages which i dont need18:24
goonfaceSomething clunky18:24
jp_hranicewilee-nilee:  yes. In Thunderbird there is no problem.18:24
wilee-nileejp_hranice, As well are you translating our conversation to understand and if so to what language?18:24
deadweaselIs the flash plugin known for causing popping clicking in ubuntu 12.04 x64 desktops?  Or is chrome specific?18:25
Bostomanbleih having stability issues :(18:25
Flanneldoebi: That's correct.  If you don't want that, your only other option is to install it manually.18:25
doebiFlannel: how?18:25
jp_hraniceNo I do not use any translator. My language is Czech.18:25
doebii wanted to use tlmgr to install them manually, but its not availabel in ubuntu18:25
Flanneldoebi: by putting the file(s) in appropriate directories18:25
thubtumbingdoebi, http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/38978/how-can-i-manually-install-a-latex-package-debian-ubuntu-linux18:25
jp_hranicewilee-nilee: No I do not use any translator. My language is Czech.18:26
wilee-nileejp_hranice, Okay, so in what app is this not working. The problem here is your description is missing pertinent info at least for me to understand what your problems actually are. ;)18:26
doebiu got to be kidding me18:26
thubtumbingyes...18:26
doebimeh18:26
doebii got better things to do with my time18:26
jp_hranicewilee-nilee:  Ina dash itself.18:26
jp_hranicewilee-nilee: in a dash itself.18:26
Flanneldoebi: Ubuntu uses apt for its package management, using a LaTeX specific management tool wouldn't mesh well.  That's just the nature of the beast.18:27
wilee-nileejp_hranice, So tell us what you do the process to get an error.18:27
thubtumbingmaybe Flannel will write you a program for it18:27
doebiFlannel: pip is a package management tool for python, and guess what. IT WORKS in ubunut!18:27
dinglei just upgraded to 13.04, now i have no sound on my hdmi output. how do i fix this?18:27
wilee-nilee!details | jp_hranice this bot info helps18:28
ubottujp_hranice this bot info helps: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:28
thubtumbingoh congrats doebi18:28
dingleat the first reboot no sound worked, i did a cold boot and now at least the laptop sound works but still no hdmi18:28
Flanneldoebi: That's just how the LaTeX guys in Ubuntu decided to do it.  Otherwise you have dozens of "package managements" for their own domains, and you can't keep track of things globally.18:29
jordan4ibanezHello again, I have set the CTRL+ALT+DELETE in the keyboard shortcuts to run a command, yet when I do the key combination, it doesn't run the command, would there be any issue why?18:29
doebistupid devs18:30
Flanneldoebi: pip does perl, not python, and it installs things to /usr/local/ which is effectively what you'd be doing with the LaTeX things.18:30
doebii dont understand why apt groups the packages up, instead of using the package names from latex18:30
doebipip is python18:30
Flanneldoebi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/pip pip is perl.18:31
FlannelIf you're using it for python... good luck to you :)18:31
thubtumbinghttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/pip.1.html18:31
doebiFlannel: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip18:31
thubtumbingeuhm whatever pip is, can one install latex packages with it?18:32
thubtumbingcause i seriously doubt that18:32
doebithubtumbing: no it cant thats not what i meant.18:33
doebii just said it works, besides apt, why tlmgr not?18:33
thubtumbingoh18:33
deadweaselFYI -- If people ask about popping/clicking sounds in flash player chrome (ubuntu 12.04), do about:plugins, select details, disable the PPAPI (out-of-process)18:34
deadweaselunder flash player18:34
varunmilessabin, did you try a usb2 hub?18:34
deadweaselno more popping / clicking in videos/music served via chrome.18:34
milessabinvarun: yes, and as you suggested, it didn't help18:35
jp_hranicewilee-nilee:  OK. I try some.  My problem occured in functinality of dash itself. I use actual Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Rightal Czech tranlation. I try to serch a wether for example, it means online source content. Dash search only my computer and give me back "there is no content you are looking for". I expect  online result about weather in a location.18:35
goonface Chrome does not support video exceleration and flash