[00:00] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, I'm a huge fan of ubuntu but I need 2 types of OS to work. When I try to install win 8, I have to choose which partition I want to install like this image: http://s.glbimg.com/po/tt/f/original/2011/09/16/windows8-install-hd.jpg  I choose HD with nothing inside, and this message appears: "We could not create a new partition or find an existing one. Check the log files of the installation"
[00:00] <Vivekananda> or "somethingg software centre" ( forget the name)
[00:00] <micahcowan> semitones, I don't think such a folder exist.
[00:00] <micahcowan> But most managed, installable apps will go into /usr/bin anyway
[00:00] <Vivekananda> I mean I forgot they name of the application
[00:00] <cristina> hm micahcowan lot`s of packeges there
[00:00] <semitones> micahcowan: i'm sur eit does!
[00:00] <micahcowan> cristina, yes indeed :)
[00:00] <semitones> at least it used to
[00:00] <semitones> it was like ~/bin or something
[00:01] <Vivekananda> The easiest is to click on the software centre and type libre office and then click and install
[00:01] <micahcowan> cristina, inkscape, that was the other graphical app I was thinking of
[00:01] <cristina> yes ...already there..
[00:01] <cristina> let`s go on
[00:01] <cristina> messenger for yahoo ...with webvam
[00:01] <micahcowan> semitones, AFAIK, ~/bin isn't automatically added to path if it exists. At least, it didn't used to be. I add mine explicitly
[00:02] <cristina> webcam
[00:02] <semitones> micahcowan: ok
[00:02] <lucas_> cristina : pidgin
[00:02] <cristina> hm...no webcam...or ...i`m to .dumm:))
[00:03] <micahcowan> semitones, Of course, there's nothing to prevent you from having a .bashrc (or whatnot) that does that sort of thing for you, but AFAICT the one automatically provided doesn't do that.
[00:03] <cristina> how about kopete?...webcam works?
[00:03] <micahcowan> (My startup scripts automatically add anything it finds in /opt/*/bin to the PATH.)
[00:04] <cristina> and mic ofcourese
[00:04] <jrib> micahcowan: the default ~/.profile adds ~/bin to PATH if ~/bin exists
[00:04] <cristina> ofcourse
[00:04] <semitones> micahcowan: what is .bashrc?
[00:04] <semitones> micahcowan: check this out (it's part of ~/.profile)
[00:04] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606605/
[00:05] <micahcowan> jrib, weird to me that it would be in there, but not .bashrc. Well, I guess it sort of makes sense, but also means it wouldn't be updated when you open a new window in your term or something
[00:05] <micahcowan> semitones, yeah, just saw it.
[00:06] <semitones> jrib: micahcowan but does it actually work?
[00:06] <jrib> semitones: yes
[00:06] <micahcowan> semitones, .profile gets run on a login shell, .bashrc gets run on a non-login shell (when you open a terminal window, that usually opens a non-login shell)
[00:07] <jrib> micahcowan: has the advantage that the X environment will be aware of the PATH changes.  Nowadays it seems the push is to not even use ~/.profile, but instead use ~/.pam_environment for environment variables (unless you need some scripting logic)
[00:08] <micahcowan> jrib, yeah, but then, given that .profile sources .bashrc anyway, if they'd put it in .bashrc it'd be good for both. :)
[00:08] <alien2050> weird... I'm trying to scale a window (Blender) on my second monitor but it sticks to the middle of the screen instead of spanning... even though compiz has "snapping windows" disabled...
[00:08] <cristina> hei guys webcam works on kopete?
[00:08] <micahcowan> The [ -d ] doesn't make much sense to me anyway... after all, there's no harm in adding it to the PATH if it doesn't exist, and that way they can make it exist, and take advantage of it without having to log out/back in again
[00:09] <jrib> micahcowan: agreed.  I guess there is some negligible advantage to not having more directories than needed in PATH
[00:09] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[00:09] <alien2050> "launcher capture mouse" also disabled...
[00:10] <micahcowan> Got dinged by AndChat15 again... this time ignored by IP...
[00:10] <Schrodinger`Cat> i would like to know why somes kernel have linux-image-extra, and some other dont, in this one : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8.9-raring/ there is no linux-image-extra, is it a problem ? thanks
[00:11] <micahcowan> So, anyone know where I should be looking for what scripts or such get triggered when a keyboard is plugged into USB?
[00:11] <veryape> exit
[00:11] <veryape> ls
[00:12] <veryape> oops, sorry :/
[00:12] <micahcowan> :)
[00:12] <aliendude5300> sigh... after having a broken install, i wiped my hdd (backing up /home) and reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04. GRUB is still not working :(
[00:12] <cristina> micahcowan,  so on kopete works webcam install or not?
[00:12] <aliendude5300> I just get a flashing underscore now
[00:13] <micahcowan> cristina, I don't know much about kopete, or really about webcam. I think the only cam-related thing I've installed is "cheese" (takes a picture of you ;) )
[00:13] <cristina> dok jokes
[00:13] <brainwash> Schrodinger`Cat: the linux-image-extra package has been merged back into linux-image , so now we have only 1 file like before
[00:14] <Schrodinger`Cat> brainwash: ok thanks :)
[00:14] <Schrodinger`Cat> brainwash: linux-image-extra is the proprietary stuff, right ?
[00:15] <micahcowan> I think proprietary stuff is mostly individual other module packages?
[00:15] <AndChat15> Say up
[00:15] <cristina> what docky do? micahcowan
[00:15] <micahcowan> Don't know. Does it have a description under Synaptic?
[00:16] <micahcowan> Really, the Synaptic descriptions, plus Google, are the best ways to find out (if it has an unfortunately ambiguous name, you might want to add "Ubuntu" in the google searches)
[00:16] <micahcowan> There are some tens of thousands of packages, I mostly just know about the ones I use :)
[00:16] <brainwash> Schrodinger`Cat: it did contain less common driver modules i think
[00:17] <cristina> ok
[00:17] <AndChat15> Ubuntu is worse than windows
[00:17] <cristina> yes and you are like a frog
[00:17] <aliendude5300> sigh... I have no idea how to fix my system :( I should have stayed with Ubuntu 12.10, but 13.04 was faster and shinier :/
[00:17] <Schrodinger`Cat> AndChat15: please stop you craps in private message, thanks
[00:17] <Schrodinger`Cat> brainwash: thanks
[00:18] <levolent> hi guys
[00:18] <levolent> can anyone hear me ??
[00:18] <micahcowan> Schrodinger`Cat, I'm thinking it's a harassbot, dunno if there's anyone listening.
[00:18] <micahcowan> levolent, read you
[00:18] <levolent> nice
[00:19] <aliendude5300> Also, AndChat15 is a troll.
[00:19] <levolent> I was having connectivity issues earlier
[00:19] <AndChat15> levolent: hello
[00:19] <micahcowan> Someone have ops to ban *@247.sub-174-227-64.myvzw.com (AndChat) ? :/
[00:19] <levolent> ok question. is there a good data recovery software for linux that is free or has trial and online download?
[00:19] <levolent> must work on NTFS and possibly FAT32
[00:19] <semitones> how can I make init.d run something?
[00:20] <micahcowan> semitones, hm, that's a somewhat complex question. Also, in Ubuntu, it's encouraged to use upstart (/etc/init) rather than ssvinit-style scripts (/etc/init.d)
[00:20] <aliendude5300> I would really appreciate it if someone could help me fix my Ubuntu install. I can't use my desktop at all now, and I've been working on this for hours.
[00:20] <Vivekananda> so guys no way to recover then ?
[00:20] <micahcowan> But the Ubuntu guides at help.ubuntu.com (I think?) have information on both.
[00:20] <levolent> AndChat15 michahcowan sorry to ask for general linux software advice... i know this probably isn't the best place to ask
[00:20] <micahcowan> Or maybe it's on the wiki. Proabably both.
[00:20] <AndChat15> Everything just works in windows
[00:20] <levolent> maybe i should try #linux?
[00:20] <Vivekananda> shoot why do I alwaysuse the shift delete :(
[00:21] <micahcowan> levolent, nothing at all wrong with general linux software advice
[00:21] <Vivekananda> woe to the habit. any advise on recovering is very much waited upon
[00:21] <micahcowan> levolent, and AndChat15 is a troll (possibly bot)
[00:21] <semitones> micahcowan: ok, I don't really know the difference. Basically, I just want the system to start redshift before I see the login screen.
[00:21] <levolent> ok good
[00:21] <levolent> how do i mute him nasty npm
[00:21] <micahcowan> semitones, for quick-and-dirty, you probably just want to add it to /etc/rc.local
[00:21] <micahcowan> Making sure that it spawns off, and doesn't block until the program exits (add & if necessary)
[00:22] <micahcowan> levolent, depends on your client. See if "/help ignore" gives you information on your client.
[00:22] <levolent> ok #linux requires registration and I'm not sober enough for that .
[00:22] <levolent> so thats good I can ask software advice here :)
[00:23] <micahcowan> levolent, I used /ignore *!*@247.sub-174-227-64.myvzw.com ALL
[00:23] <levolent> ty
[00:23] <AndChat15> Wow
[00:23] <levolent> i am of the type that would rather learn to fish than be giving a fish btw
[00:23] <levolent> so was a /whois on him??
[00:23] <levolent> that*
[00:23] <micahcowan> yeah
[00:23] <levolent> cool
[00:23] <tehsmythe> hello
[00:23] <micahcowan> He changed nicks/usernames on me at least once, so gotta be IP :)
[00:23] <micahcowan> hi tehsmythe
[00:23] <levolent> i didn't know about the ALL parameter on that
[00:24] <levolent> what extra benefit is that?
[00:24] <micahcowan> levolent, might be xchat-specific, I dunno. it also might be the default.
[00:24] <levolent> o ok i am also using xchat
[00:24] <tehsmythe> I am an Ubuntu newbie and have a question about installing 13.04 on a hybrid drive
[00:24] <micahcowan> You can ban for just private messages, or just channel... all blocks for all :)
[00:24] <levolent> ill enter both commands :)
[00:24] <levolent> oh its required
[00:24] <levolent> anyways
[00:25] <levolent> ok question. is there a good data recovery software for linux that is free or has trial and online download?
[00:25] <Vivekananda> Hello anyone responding to my question. I have not written much on the disk except for scalpel install so please advise on whaat to do ?
[00:25] <levolent> must work on NTFS and possibly FAT32
[00:25] <Vivekananda> if there is nothing then I would like to begin working again on the stuff
[00:26] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, to be honest, your problem sounds difficult and baffling. You've just done a normal install, wiping the whole HD, and you end up without a working Grub? :(
[00:26] <levolent> also, does ubuntu by default detect NTFS disc? and where would I go for verbose data on that usb connection?
[00:26] <levolent> 12.10
[00:26] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, I've never had that happen. Not like that, anyway. I've had Windows kill my Grub, and other things like that, but a reinstall always fixed it.
[00:26] <aliendude5300> micahcowan, yes. I have spent hours working on this. I've been on IRC all day, and all I want is a working system :(
[00:26] <chaotix> hello...  should i get ubuntu 13.10?  why or why not
[00:26] <chaotix> i meant 13.04
[00:27] <micahcowan> levolent, it should detect NTFS discs, I think
[00:27] <levolent> is there another good channel for ubunt or linux questions that doesn't require registration?
[00:27] <aliendude5300> I have Secure Boot disabled since people will probably bring that up
[00:27] <levolent> whats the best program to get data on the connection and disc
[00:27] <macwolf74> chaotix, If you want the latest and greatest or if something does not work right currently then maybe you should
[00:27] <macwolf74> however you will have to upgrade to 13.10 in the next 9 months to stay supported
[00:28] <micahcowan> chaotix, it might be right for you, or you might prefer to get the last long-term support version (which was 12.04 I believe)
[00:28] <levolent> i dont know if you guys have smelled gucci intense but omfg...
[00:28] <micahcowan> If you like to have the latest bleeding edge, then getting the latest release can be a good idea.
[00:28] <tehsmythe> Does anyone here know if ubuntu 13.04 will know to install grub on the ssd part of my hybrid drive or will I have to manually manage the partitions to get this to happen? I want to use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for the storage
[00:28] <levolent> it seems girls AND guys like it so beware tho...
[00:28] <chaotix> im gonna do it!
[00:28] <AndChat|15> Ubuntu is garbadge
[00:28] <macwolf74> k
[00:29] <chaotix> how do i report someone for being a troll?
[00:29] <micahcowan> 12.04 will be supported until a year after 14.04 comes out, I believe, so if you like to just install stuff and leave it alone without constantly upgrading a couple times a year, LTS can be a good choice.
[00:29] <levolent> andchat broke my filter :(
[00:29] <levolent> i thought i had him ignore
[00:29] <macwolf74> chaotix, just ignore him he'll get over it eventually
[00:29] <chaotix> i got a pm from a troll who will remain nameless
[00:29] <chaotix> ok
[00:29] <micahcowan> levolent, mine too. Thought I'd banned that nick. Probably banned the username instead
[00:29] <chaotix> im leaving anyways
[00:29] <levolent> can someone please help or direct me I've been here awhile
[00:29] <micahcowan> chaotix, no need to remain nameless, AndChat's bugging everyone
[00:29] <macwolf74> hope you have fun with ubuntu
[00:30] <levolent> if what im asking for doesn't exist how will i know?
[00:30] <macwolf74> levolent, what is your question?
[00:30]  * levolent whoa thats kinda deep
[00:30] <chaotix> im using 12.10 right now and im enjoying it
[00:30] <levolent> um... is about linux software not sure if this is good pl
[00:30] <levolent> place*
[00:30] <micahcowan> levolent, trying AndChat*!*@* this time...
[00:30] <macwolf74> 13.04 brings many improvements and speed changes
[00:30] <macwolf74> over 12.10
[00:30] <chaotix> it took me a while to jump on the unity bandwaggon but i am glad that i did
[00:30] <chaotix> thanks macwolf74
[00:30] <Guest6760> Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.
[00:30] <AndChat|15> I rather ran os2 than ubuntu
[00:30] <macwolf74> you're welcome =)
[00:31] <macwolf74> levolent, go ahead
[00:31] <levolent> macwolf74 does ubuntu by default detect NTFS disc? and where would I go for verbose data on that usb connection?
[00:31] <macwolf74> I can probably answer it
[00:31] <tehsmythe> Does anyone here know if ubuntu 13.04 will know to install grub on the ssd part of my hybrid drive or will I have to manually manage the partitions to get this to happen? I want to use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for the storage
[00:31] <micahcowan> levolent, yes, it'll detect the NTFS disc (thought I answered that already)
[00:31] <macwolf74> by NTFS disc if you mean partition then it usually does yes
[00:31] <aliendude5300> levolent, ubuntu detects and can read/write to NTFS by default
[00:31] <Vivekananda> hello
[00:31] <freddofrog> anyone here have experience at running pangolin lts as a PV domU ?
[00:31] <levolent> micah yes but i asked for the software name too sorry im noob
[00:31] <Vivekananda> anyone able to comment on or advise on my problem of shift delete ?
[00:31] <macwolf74> Vivekananda, what about it?
[00:32] <micahcowan> levolent, it should detect it automatically, without any need to install additional software
[00:32] <parsixfan> No matter what variant of ubuntu i try my old laptop wont seem to boot right, it shows the initial boot screen i choose the boot option and then it goes black and you simply hear the fans nonstop. any ideas?
[00:32] <levolent> aliendude5300 what program should i use for output analysis
[00:32] <semitones> micahcowan: one last question -- in my bash script that I put in rc.local, do I need to make sure that the program it invokes runs in the background?
[00:32] <levolent> so i know what the computer knows about the disc
[00:32] <micahcowan> macwolf74, Vive did accidental shift-delete
[00:32] <semitones> micahcowan: by adding && or something -- i don't really understand
[00:32] <levolent> !equivalents Disk Management
[00:32] <retrobanana> Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.
[00:32] <doghead> G
[00:32] <levolent> !equivalent Disk Management
[00:32] <levolent> ubottu sorry
[00:33] <micahcowan> semitones, yeah, that's what I was trying to say. You'd add & at the end... better make sure that the command will do what you want first, so it doesn't trigger an error if you type the command wrong or something.
[00:33] <levolent> ubottu that actually looked intelligent
[00:33] <levolent> k
[00:33] <micahcowan> Some commands have options to fork into the background themselves, in which case you can use that option and not &
[00:33] <levolent> brb grabbing a smoke.. aliendud5300 and macwolf74 and micahcowan
[00:33] <doghead> L
[00:33] <macwolf74> levolent, ubuntu has a disk management tool called disk utility by default
[00:34] <doghead> You
[00:34] <retrobanana> Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.
[00:34] <macwolf74> well now "Disks"
[00:34] <levolent> what is the terminal command to summon it
[00:34] <retrobanana> Will anybody help me!!?
[00:34] <micahcowan> levolent, that one's a graphical one, I believe, found in your application menus. Similar terminal program might be parted
[00:34] <macwolf74> gnome-disks levolent
[00:34] <micahcowan> retrobanana, what's "Pure Data"?
[00:34] <micahcowan> (and, have patience :) )
[00:34] <macwolf74> it is GUI like micahcowan said though
[00:35] <doghead> Na
[00:35] <semitones> micahcowan: this is what I have so far :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606684/
[00:35] <retrobanana> It's a graphical audio programming language.
[00:36] <parsixfan> any help as to way ubuntu wont display anything on trying to install
[00:36] <micahcowan> retrobanana, sounds fun. I'll have to find it. But, if it's logging you completely out, it sounds like it might be a video driver problem or something like that.
[00:36] <doghead> macwolf74: puredata is what happens when you poop
[00:36] <macwolf74> mmk
[00:36] <micahcowan> I.e., your graphical session is getting killed, so everything under it goes too.
[00:36] <retrobanana> Hmmm...that could be it
[00:37] <Vivekananda> macwolf74: just if I can recover any file I deleted like 10 mins ago with shift delete
[00:37] <micahcowan> I don't know what to suggest there... if you're using "additional (restricted) drivers", then you might consider disabling that... or if you're not, and there's one available, you might consider enabling it :)
[00:37] <Vivekananda> it was a .sql file
[00:37] <macwolf74> I don't know any way to recover a pernamently deleted file, sorry
[00:38] <Vivekananda> :( okay then I guess I will go back to writing it out again
[00:38] <micahcowan> Vivekananda, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[00:38] <micahcowan> hope that helps
[00:38] <aliendude5300> sigh... I'm reinstalling Ubuntu again in hopes that the past two installations of 13.04 that failed were flukes. wish me luck :/
[00:38] <doghead> Get eid o
[00:38] <macwolf74> aliendude5300, maybe the ISO image is corrupted?
[00:38] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, I suppose you're on the live CD now?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, YOu sum the ISO?
[00:39] <doghead> Do not use ubuntu
[00:39] <micahcowan> ISO image, or possibly the HDD (hope not)
[00:39] <aliendude5300> I checked the integrity of the ISO. :/
[00:39] <aliendude5300> ISO is fine
[00:39] <retrobanana> Thanks!
[00:39] <levolent> back
[00:39] <levolent> doghead is trolling me :( will /ignore doghead work?
[00:39] <helo> is update-manager -d a viable way to upgrade from quantal?
[00:40] <aliendude5300> the installs look like they worked, but it didn't boot either time. This is all on a PC where 12.10 worked flawlessly
[00:40] <macwolf74> levolent, just ignore it mentally I'd say, they don't stick around long afaik
[00:40] <levolent> also, does freenode have a "lobby" or index help desk? I know there's a command but it outputs long and hard to navigate
[00:40] <helo> #defocus
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> helo, Set the software sotces to all upgrades and wait till the servers are not overwhelmed.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> sources*
[00:41] <micahcowan> levolent, doghead is still AndChat, so I'm still failing at the ignores. Now trying ~AndChat*!*@* ALL ... not that they can't get around that, probably, but so far the username's always AndChat
[00:41] <helo> i downloaded the iso, but can't get it to boot from usb either via dd or unetbootin
[00:41] <macwolf74> you can just open the software updater and it should appear if everything is updated
[00:41] <harris> battery working now
[00:41] <micahcowan> Does dd of ISO to usb work now? didn't used to, AFAIK (Debian's does).
[00:41] <levolent> ok did someone ever ansewr me? I scrolled up but dont see red text
[00:42] <micahcowan> I've only used the GUI "Make Startup Disk" thingy to do the USB thing
[00:42] <helo> i prefer clean installs, but if the iso does not will it, so be it!
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> helo, You know the boot menu outside the bios?
[00:42] <adreno> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGKDmuAIKQ&list=PL8BAFE3208F6CD872
[00:42] <helo> micahcowan: i think it "used to" ;)
[00:42] <helo> dunno, my bios is kind of sketchy when it comes to upgrades
[00:42] <levolent> I am a sad panda right now :(
[00:42] <doghead> I have swamp land to sell
[00:42] <helo> err "when it comes to usb booting"
[00:42] <micahcowan> gotcha
[00:43] <micahcowan> levolent, I don't know much about getting data on USB connections. Not sure what level of data you're wanting, though.
[00:43] <levolent> is there a freenode or other irc channel for non-emergency firstaid?
[00:43] <macwolf74> answered you on the disks question levolent? the command is gnome-disks for the GUI tool
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> helo, outside the bios
 #defocus
[00:43] <n47781> how can I access an external USB harddisk?  alternatively, any way to access a Windows' shared folder to drag over ( / copy & paste) files from that?
[00:43] <micahcowan> levolent, I mean, dmesg will tell you what got connected to your computer, if that's the sort of thing you need
[00:43] <helo> #defocus is the freenode lobby, afaik
[00:43] <harris> how do i turn off the power saving like the file my computer keeps poping and thats what i had to do before
[00:44] <aliendude5300> yes! It booted this time! Success! :D 4 hours of work fixing my Ubuntu paid off! I had to manually create a 100MB reserved bios boot area on my ssd for it to boot! :)
[00:44] <levolent> is there a good search engine for irc chat of all network? google seems lacking imo
[00:44] <helo> servers don't seem overwhelmed, btw... pulling 1MB/s
[00:44]  * helo frowns as it drops to 400KB/s
[00:45] <macwolf74> what IRC client are you using levolent?
[00:45] <levolent> you can't put a bandaid in your mouth right? so what if you bite the everloving @$% out of your lip
[00:45] <levolent> xchat
[00:45] <helo> levolent: freenode is all you need if you're sticking to linuxland... netsplit.de is a good index
[00:45] <levolent> macwolf74 xchat
[00:45] <levolent> not sticking to linuxland
[00:45] <macwolf74> ah
[00:45] <levolent> its about non-emergency first aid question
[00:46] <macwolf74> server > list of channels can give you a list of channels
[00:46] <harris> wilee-nilee,
[00:46] <macwolf74> also we keep saying #defocus levolent
[00:46] <harris> you helped me with it
[00:46] <macwolf74> lol
[00:46] <levolent> ty macwolf74
[00:46] <levolent> were you born in 74 btw?
[00:46] <macwolf74> nah
[00:46] <macwolf74> lol
[00:46] <levolent> i bet you get asked that all the time
[00:47] <levolent> how do i switch channel without mouse in xchat?
[00:47] <levolent> ctrl+tab !equivalen
[00:47] <levolent> ctrl+tab !equivalent
[00:47] <harris>  /join channel
[00:47] <levolent> =\
[00:47] <levolent> did that alredy
[00:47] <macwolf74> I do
[00:48] <clfs>  /join ubuntu-cn
[00:48] <levolent> harris /join #ubuntu  when im already in it from another channel doesn't switch focus =\
[00:49] <levolent> does anyone have questions?
[00:49] <aliendude5300> ok, Ubuntu 13.04 is now running on my system, but it keeps freezing and lagging to the point where I have to reboot it manually. I'm getting errors from noveau saying GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[00:49] <aliendude5300> and then a black screen
[00:50] <harris> levolent, yes
[00:51] <levolent> harris yes what ... how do switch channel with keyboard? xchat
[00:51] <levolent> !equivalent CTRL+TAB
[00:51] <levolent> !equivalents CTRL+TAB
[00:51] <levolent> ubottu why u no love me anymore?
[00:52] <levolent> !equivalents
[00:53] <levolent> how do switch channel with keyboard? xchat
[00:53] <levolent> CTRL+TAB equivalent
[00:53] <micahcowan> levolent, I was looking under Settings->Advanced->Keyboard Shortcuts
[00:53] <micahcowan> but there doesn't seem to be such a thing
[00:53] <goonface> levolent: usw
[00:54] <micahcowan> There doesn't even seem to be a command to assign to a keystroke for such a thing :/
[00:54] <goonface> levolent: hey
[00:54] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, crap, I dunno, but sounds like maybe it's choosing bad graphics drivers for your Xorg or something...
[00:55] <goonface> Use windows
[00:55] <micahcowan> alien2050, might be able to force it to use a more "safe-mode" style one, but it's been ages since I've had to muck with Xorg, and it was all manual config back then, so I'd be little help now.
[00:56] <aliendude5300> Sigh... I'm hating 13.04 already. Should have stayed with 12.10... at least it worked
[00:56] <micahcowan> So, you had zero problems with 12.10?
[00:56] <goonface> Ubuntu craptastic
[00:56] <levolent> goonface usw?
[00:56] <micahcowan> You might consider installing 12.10, and possibly doing the upgrade from there (or not)
[00:56] <helo> aliendude5300: when i'm having graphics issues that lead to an unusable system, i press "e" in grub, remove "quiet", change "splash" to "nosplash", and add "single"
[00:57] <helo> then it will boot to a root prompt that you can use to unsilly things
[00:57] <helo> just had to do that when my kernel was upgraded since i'm using the binary amd drivers
[00:57] <goonface> aliendude5300: dont listen to these nerds. Telk me whats wrong
[00:58] <aliendude5300> my system is freezing and locking up with noveau errors after a few seconds after booting
[00:58] <helo> well, if you're able to boot, you don't need single mode
[00:59] <helo> sorry, wasn't reading
[00:59] <goonface> aliendude5300: are u using 32 or 64 bit
[00:59] <aliendude5300> I'm getting errors from noveau saying GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon followed by a blank screen. I then have to do a hard reboot
[00:59] <aliendude5300> 64-bit
[00:59] <helo> you could try fglrx, or try installing the amd drivers from their website
[00:59] <helo> but that causes problems of its own
[00:59] <goonface> aliendude5300: you have nvidia
[01:00] <aliendude5300> fglrx is ati isn't it? I have a geforce card in my desktop
[01:00] <helo> oh geforce 0_o
[01:00] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, but are you still able to get a basic console on that blank screen, by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[01:00] <aliendude5300> goonface: yes. it's a geforce gtx 580
[01:00]  * helo realizes he should stop
[01:00] <micahcowan> You'll need that much at least to be able to potentially fix X
[01:00] <aliendude5300> micahcowan: I can before it freezes up, or if i boot into recovery mode
[01:00] <aliendude5300> after it freezes up, i can't do much except reboot
[01:01] <goonface> aliendude5300: are you using live disk or installed
[01:01] <aliendude5300> goonface: installed
[01:01] <semitones> micahcowan: I tested running the rc.local on its own, and it does what I want and exits. Is it good to go now?
[01:02] <goonface> aliendude5300: at grub do you know how to set NOMODESET
[01:02] <micahcowan> Seems to be :)
[01:02] <Anti-Sleep> Hello.
[01:03] <micahcowan> Just remember what you added there, in case you ever reinstall and have to remember :)
[01:03] <micahcowan> hi anti
[01:03] <semitones> micahcowan: great -- I just wanted to make sure there's not something else I need to do
[01:03] <Anti-Sleep> Greetings.
[01:03] <semitones> micahcowan: there should be some kind of registry that logs changes users make to anything outside of /home
[01:03] <aliendude5300> goonface: I could figure that out. don't you just edit the boot command or something? not sure where to put nomodeset though
[01:05] <goonface> aliendude5300: boot to grub and there is a Function key to set options
[01:05] <levolent> sup guys?
[01:06] <goonface> aliendude5300: i think its F6 then select NOMODESET
[01:07] <aliendude5300> there are no function keys listed on the grub screen, and pressing f6 does nothing
[01:07] <aliendude5300> i can get to recovery mode if that would be helpful
[01:07] <micahcowan> semitones, well, in the meantime, I keep my /etc as a git repository, so I have a history of changes (on my VPS, not my main desktop; I don't have to change /etc too often on my desktop)
[01:08] <levolent> how do you force a refresh of disks in gnome-disks?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, you need nomodeset at the grub menu once?
[01:08] <semitones> micahcowan: cool, i'll remember that
[01:08] <micahcowan> dunno, I'm using xfce4, not gnome
[01:08] <Cyberai> I upgraded to 13.04 recently and I cannot set a desktop wallpaper in the Ubuntu Desktop. If I switch to Gnome3 it works fine. Can anyone help?
[01:09] <aliendude5300> i'm not really sure what nomodeset does... noveau is throwing up errors, and my system is crashing :/
[01:09] <aliendude5300> goonface told me to set nomodeset in GRUB so I'm going to try that
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | check the link.
[01:09] <HerrKlemmy> Hey everybody - how to use your onboard video card to display a third desktop on a third monitor ?
[01:10] <goonface> aliendude5300: can you press e while in grib
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, ^^^^^
[01:10] <goonface> Grub
[01:10] <aliendude5300> my system boots and works for about 25 seconds then crashes.
[01:11] <aliendude5300> sure. i did that and I'm at a text editor of sorts in grub with the Ubuntu boot commands in it
[01:11] <goonface> aliendude5300: press e in grub
[01:11] <aliendude5300> I did that.. ^^
[01:12] <HerrKlemmy> Help : How to use your onboard video card to set up a third monitor ?
[01:12] <goonface> aliendude5300: you should be in edit mode.
[01:12] <aliendude5300> yes. i am
[01:13] <goonface> aliendude5300: scroll to the word QUEI
[01:13] <goonface> QUEIT
[01:13] <aliendude5300> found it
[01:14] <HerrKlemmy> Help : How to use your onboard video card to set up a third monitor ?
[01:14] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: are your other 2 monitors set
[01:15] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: I have two monitors working, one over VGA the other over an DVI to VGA adapter.
[01:15] <levolent> why is goonface acting normal in here trying to be helpful? he is the andchat troll
[01:15] <goonface> aliendude5300: leave space and type NOMODESET then cntrl-x
[01:15] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: using what grafix card, which driver
[01:16] <aliendude5300> alright, I'm at a desktop now. (solid state drive for the win)
[01:16] <aliendude5300> doesn't seem to be freezing yet
[01:16] <aliendude5300> no, it seems to be working. ]
[01:17] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: A  ATI RV516 XT Radeon X1600 Series with the drivers installed with the OS-installation
[01:17] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: no other works for me...
[01:17] <goonface> aliendude5300: you have to google how to make it permanent in GRUB.
[01:18] <aliendude5300> would it be a good idea to install the nvidia drivers since it seems to be a driver issue?
[01:19] <thorby> Hi
[01:19] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: i am going out on a limb here, is there an xorg.conf for your setuyp in /etc/X11
[01:20] <HerrKlemmy> nope
[01:20] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: nope
[01:20] <aliendude5300> thanks for helping me :) I think I'm going to make nomodeset permanent and try to get the proprietary drivers up and running so I can use the full capabilities of my GPU
[01:20] <chrisdone> anybody here got ubuntu to work in dual boot on the retina macbook pro? whatever i seem to try, refit/refind,grub, it always seems to say "missing operating system" when trying to boot linux
[01:20] <goonface> aliendude5300: never tried Ubuntu. It seems you already have Nvidia installed. In terminal type NVIDIA-SETTINGS
[01:20] <mibitzi> does skype work with any nvidia driver on amd64?
[01:21] <aliendude5300> nvidia-settings: command not found
[01:22] <chrisdone> i'm gonna have to send it back to apple if i can't get ubuntu to even boot =/
[01:22] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: make sure your system allows the use of both simultaneously, i've known systems that allowd a graphics card to handle displays but disable onboard, so doublecheck the BIOS settings
[01:23] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: cycle/pageup/down thru the choices
[01:23] <goonface> aliendude5300: ubuntu i think has easy way to install nvidia. When it installs Nvidia it should fix the NOMODESET issue.
[01:24] <chrisdone> pfft, i'm gonna try installing ubuntu OVER os x. if it fails to boot then, i'll have to send it back and get a refund
[01:24] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: ok, thx, thaths a helpful information - I'll do so, but now i have to go to sleep - thx for your help
[01:24] <aliendude5300> goonface: alright, thanks. I'll try to find a way to install nvidia in ubuntu. I think I should be able to do that with a simple apt-get command now that I have my system up and running
[01:24] <betrayd> gnite HerrKlemmy font awnt you to waste your time
[01:24] <aliendude5300> does anyone know the name of the proprietary nvidia driver package?
[01:24] <betrayd> don't want
[01:25] <betrayd> chrisdone: better to troubleshoot that 'no OS found'
[01:25] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: hopefully there is somebody  online, who can help me, when i got my information... but my bed cries for me :)
[01:26] <betrayd> thats ok HerrKlemmy everything starts  with BIOS beingOK with it
[01:26] <aliendude5300> after a quick google search, i'm going to install nvidia-current. that should work
[01:26] <UserAttack> Running Xubuntu.. How come my battery display is empty until I plug in then out?
[01:26] <goonface> aliendude5300: try system+settings look for hardware drivers
[01:27] <goonface> aliendude5300: i think ubuntu idiot prof
[01:28] <chrisdone> betrayd: well the OS is on there. the ubuntu installer created the partition and a swap. googling the error message doesn't give me anything i understand
[01:28] <betrayd> installed from a stick?
[01:28] <chrisdone> yeah
[01:28] <betrayd> chrisdone: ^
[01:28] <goonface> Proofed it. System-settings should be hardware driverd
[01:28] <betrayd> make sure the ctick isnt in there when you boot
[01:28] <betrayd> stick* chrisdone ^
[01:28] <chrisdone> it's not
[01:29] <betrayd> chrisdone: you had the grub install to the hdd, what awas the name fo the drive
[01:30] <chrisdone> betrayd: swap was /dev/sda5 and the ext4 was /dev/sda6
[01:30] <betrayd> chrisdone: and you designated what for grub destination?
[01:31] <goonface> aliendude5300: what version of Ubuntu you using
[01:31] <aliendude5300> 13.04
[01:31] <betrayd> chrisdone: usually people say sda1 when grub can only accept sda
[01:31] <chrisdone> betrayd: i don't know what that means. the ubuntu installer didn't ask me about grub destination
[01:31] <betrayd> well thats usually the last step
[01:31] <chrisdone> betrayd: how do i find out that?
[01:31] <chrisdone> hmm yeah
[01:32] <chrisdone> in the guides they all say "and by the way tell it to install grub for you"
[01:32] <chrisdone> except this ubuntu 13.04 just says "install finished" and asks me to reboot
[01:32] <betrayd> chrisdone: not that you skipped the part, it wasn't even offered?
[01:33] <chrisdone> i looked for it, it's supposed to be an "advanced" button before the final step, but nothing appeared
[01:33] <betrayd> hmmm, this is a mac, so i can't be 100% sure
[01:33] <chrisdone> i even did the custom way so i have to choose the partitions and such
[01:34] <betrayd> chrisdone: if you go through the install is there a way for you to remain online
[01:34] <chrisdone> yeah i have two macbooks. the macbookpro 5,5 works perfectly with ubuntu, i'm using that now to talk to you
[01:34] <chrisdone> i have the installer open presently on the retina
[01:34] <chrisdone> "try  ubuntu" or "install ubuntu", it asks
[01:35] <betrayd> but before you jump into that, maybe a grub updatre might set things rightr
[01:35] <aliendude5300> goonface: Installing the nvidia-current package that I found via a Google search seems to have worked. After rebooting, my system isn't crashing. :)
[01:35] <droffel> Does anyone know of something I could install to allow for quick-reply to messages in Empathy within the xMessage notification box?
[01:35] <goonface> aliendude5300: 12.10 had a problem installing Nvidia. Kernel build was not installed. Bug never fixed
[01:35] <chrisdone> betrayd: so i did attempt a grub-update based on some instructions to chroot to the /dev/sda6 partition with mounts, but it seemed to effect no change
[01:35] <chrisdone> betrayd: is that what you mean?
[01:36] <betrayd> chrisdone: yeah
[01:36] <chrisdone> if i open gparted, how do i know that grub is setup properly?
[01:36] <Morph4me> chrisdone :black screen ? for try or install ubuntu ?
[01:36] <betrayd> on a mac
[01:36] <goonface> aliendude5300: okay.
[01:36] <betrayd> chrisdone: give Morph4me the info
[01:37] <betrayd> 'no os' etc
[01:37] <chrisdone> Morph4me: try/install ubuntu works fine, the GUI opens. i run through the installer and it says 'finished' and i reboot, but then when i choose to run it with the macbook pro bootloader, it says 'Missing operating system'
[01:37] <dank101> how laggy is tf2 on 13.04 without graphics drivers
[01:38] <Morph4me> chrisdone: but the installer is black screen and not pruple at the begining right?
[01:39] <chrisdone> Morph4me: i mean, the mbp gives me a choice between 'os x/os x backup/windows', but i have no windows, it calls linux windows. i also tried efit/efind which did the same thing
[01:39] <dank101> anyone?
[01:39] <chrisdone> Morph4me: the installer shows the normal ubuntu desktop background with the dialog box... what do you mean black or purple?
[01:40] <betrayd> chrisdone: he's referring to a different problem i think
[01:40] <goonface> dank101: slow
[01:40] <betrayd> reported
[01:40] <Morph4me> where it says  "try or install" that screen purple or black ?
[01:40] <dank101> goonface, FUUUUUUUU
[01:40] <chrisdone> Morph4me: neither
[01:41] <betrayd> chrisdone: gparted won't show you where grub is, it can show you current partitions and put a 'bootable' flag
[01:41] <Arrarita> Hello, is there a specific topic here or can I describe my problem here?
[01:41] <goonface> dank101: generic drivers are slow.
[01:42] <chrisdone> betrayd: what makes the boot system decide whether an OS is "missing" or not? the bootable flag?
[01:42] <dank101> goonface, will installing it from the Ubuntu repos break unity/OpenGL
[01:43] <betrayd> chrisdone: afaik, the bootable flag is only recognized by linux...
[01:43] <tarvid> dnsmasq
[01:43] <kostkon_> !ask | Arrarita
[01:43] <tarvid> dnsmasq!
[01:43] <chrisdone> blargh, i shouldn't have ordered this ;_;
[01:43] <Arrarita> I have been having a major problem since upgrading to 12.10.  My screen fades in and out and the pages scroll uncontrollably.  No one seems to be able to help.
[01:44] <goonface> dank101: only ubuntu 12.10 had driver instal issues
[01:44] <betrayd> chrisdone: all you need is a cold one maybe
[01:44] <Arrarita> I upgraded to 13.04 and it's the same thing.
[01:44] <dank101> goonface, strange, happen to me on 12.04
[01:44] <chrisdone> betrayd: a what?
[01:44] <Arrarita> When the screen fades it freezes and I have to force quit and restart
[01:45] <betrayd> chrisdone: nvm
[01:45] <betrayd> not important
[01:45] <Arrarita> Please bear with me, I am new to this.
[01:46] <Morph4me> chrisdone: have you looked at this > http://linuxmacbookproretina.blogspot.ca/2012/12/ubuntu-1304-daily-build-macbook-pro.html
[01:47] <tarvid> Arrarita, is your mouse pointer stable?
[01:47] <Arrarita> Yes my mouse is stable
[01:48] <tarvid> Arrarita, Laptop with a touch pad?
[01:48] <Arrarita> desktop
[01:48] <Arrarita> the problem is so bad, I purchased a Mac laptop just so that I could do my work.
[01:48] <tarvid> Arrarita, Do you have a spare keyboard?
[01:49] <Arrarita> yes and a spare mouse
[01:49] <tarvid> Have you tried the spare keyboard?
[01:49] <caleb__> My smtp/postfix is sending out tons of spam and I have tried so many things to fix it. Any help?
[01:49] <Arrarita> No because they work fine on the laptop
[01:50] <Arrarita> would the keyboard and mouse cause my screen to constantly freeze and fade in and out?
[01:50] <caleb__> would someone atleast point me in the right direction for help
[01:50] <tarvid> They could stream in interrupts
[01:51] <Arrarita> what if I use the USB ports
[01:51] <chrisdone> Morph4me: i saw other guides like it -- it says to copy /boot/vmlinuz* from the live cd. but such a file doesn't exist in my /boot
[01:51] <chrisdone> Morph4me: neither does the /boot/initrd*
[01:51] <tarvid> caleb__, postfix wouldn't do that by itself, you are hacked
[01:51] <aliendude5300> Hey, so I just noticed that the Ubuntu installer didn't notice my Windows 8 partition, and there is no entry in the GRUB  menu despite it existing on my disk and me being able to access the files. How can I make it show up in GRUB so that I  can boot to Windows 8?
[01:52] <Morph4me> k
[01:52] <Gumby`> caleb__: first start to check if you are an open relay
[01:52] <betrayd> chrisdone: be careful what the dates are on those helpful guides
[01:52] <Gumby`> tarvid: jumping to "hacked" is quite an aggressive statement. he may simply be an open relay
[01:52] <tarvid> Good point Gumby` but postfix is not open by default
[01:52] <Gumby`> tarvid: it doesnt send spam by default (as you pointed out) either ;)
[01:53] <chrisdone> Morph4me: maybe it means i should mount the / on the resulting ext4 ubuntu system and take the files from there? i'll re-install again and see if they're there
[01:53] <aliendude5300> Running Ubuntu 13.04 on a dual-boot installation with a Windows 8 partition present, by the way.
[01:53] <tarvid> If he is sending spam he should shut down postfix and inspect the queue
[01:54] <Gumby`> caleb__: also, make sure it isnt your mail client or pc it resides on.  if something within your allowed relay has a virus it could be that also
[01:54] <Gumby`> tarvid: inded he should
[01:55] <Gumby`> I'd help more but I am far from a postfix guru
[01:55] <uroyanme> e u.
[01:56] <Morph4me> chrisdone: Macs don't make  it easy do they ? and betrayed, good point ...noted ;)
[01:56] <Gumby`> although I must say, for someone who desperately needs help, it seems odd that they'd ask a Q and then not pay attention for responses
[01:58] <tophalf01> What do you guys think about KDE?
[01:58] <Arrarita> Responses?
[01:58] <tophalf01> I use GNOME right now, but I think I might switch.
[01:59] <LinDol> why?
[02:00] <LinDol> what did you have problem? :)
[02:01] <wdonkey> anyone feel like helping me out with some cairo-dock setting problem ?
[02:02] <wdonkey> i know its of a deconcerting futility when compared to the war raging in the world or the hunger, but if anyone knowledgeable enough has a minute or two to spare..
[02:02] <Arrarita> Would my keyboard and mouse cause my computer to constantly freeze and scroll uncontrollably?
[02:02] <caleb__> I should shut down postfix and inspect the queu?
[02:03] <caleb__> What am I looking for? I am looking at the logs and they are humming
[02:03] <caleb__> this is regarding the email spam issue
[02:03] <hachre> Arrarita: no
[02:03] <dfrey> I'm having problems with audio since "upgrading" to 13.04.  I still see my audio devices in lspci, but when I click "sound settings" under the volume icon, only one output is available (should be 2) and on the one output, there is only a single "profile" listed in the drop-down menu (there should be many)
[02:04] <tarvid> caleb__, service postfix stop
[02:04] <hachre> Arrarita: do you have nvidia graphics?
[02:04] <Arrarita> I think so
[02:04] <hachre> Arrarita: did you install the nvidia binary driver?
[02:04] <Arrarita> No I did not.  I have no clue as to what that is or that I needed to do that.
[02:05] <dfrey> Furthermore, running alsamixer now says "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory"
[02:05] <hachre> Arrarita: it depends on what card you have specifically, but that symptom you have is something I have as well with the default driver
[02:05] <caleb__> travid is there anyway we can get on a another channel
[02:05] <wdonkey> dfrey:  do you have sound ?
[02:05] <hachre> Arrarita: go into the unity menu and type software, then select software & updates
[02:05] <Arrarita> ok, so how do I install it?
[02:05] <caleb__> I really want this to get fixed. the mail log exceeds around 2 gig every day
[02:05] <hachre> Arrarita: on the last tab of the window that comes up you have a few choices for alternative graphics drivers
[02:06] <tarvid> caleb__, you can make a channel and invite me
[02:06] <hachre> Arrarita: I recommend nvidia-313-updates - it should be in that list
[02:06] <Arrarita> ok I am confused, this is new to me.
[02:06] <Arrarita> I need to get to the Unity menu
[02:06] <Arrarita> let me write this down
[02:06] <hachre> Arrarita: arent you next to that computer?
[02:07] <Arrarita> yes I am
[02:07] <hachre> Arrarita: well so just do it ;D
[02:07] <Arrarita> easy for you
[02:07] <caleb__> I have no idea how. I havn't been on IRC since I was 15 lol do you have skype?
[02:07] <aliendude5300> anyone have any luck getting skype to work at all in Ubunut 13.04?
[02:07] <aliendude5300> Ubuntu*
[02:08] <dfrey> wdonkey: Only through the "Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output" listed in sound settings.  It's an optical cable that goes from my soundcard to my receiver.  This soundcard used to show many output options and I can no longer see the HDMI audio option of my video card
[02:08] <Arrarita> I don't know what the Unity menu is
[02:08] <caleb__> If you don't have skype I am sure I can figure it out
[02:08] <tarvid> caleb__, gmail chat tarvid@ls.net
[02:08] <hachre> Arrarita: the first button on that bar on the left
[02:08] <Arrarita> ok let me try that
[02:08] <hachre> Arrarita: with the ubuntu logo and the swirl
[02:09] <dank101> is unity in 13.04 using Qt?
[02:09] <hachre> dank101: as far as I know mostly not
[02:10] <hachre> dank101: Qt is coming with unity-next
[02:10] <dank101> hachre, WHY IS IT SO MUCH FASTER? LOL!
[02:10] <caleb__> just sent invite
[02:10] <dank101> it's butter
[02:10] <hachre> hehe :)
[02:10] <dank101> it was a ROCK in 12.10
[02:10] <hachre> I guess they made some improvements ;D
[02:11] <Arrarita> Thank you for your help and your patience, it's installing now.
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> I have noticed a distinct increase in performance speed after my update from final beta to official release. It's amazing.
[02:11] <dank101> and does nvidia drivers from the settings break unity, like in 12.10, and break OpenGL in all versions
[02:11] <aliendude5300> when i run skype after installing it from skype.com on my 64-bit Ubuntu installation, I get a segmentation fault, and skype closes
[02:11] <hachre> Arrarita: np :)
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> aliendude5300: Which version?
[02:12] <caleb__> I sent you an invite and a email. thanks travid
[02:12] <DaemonicApathy> Of Ubuntu, that is. 13.04, or earlier?
[02:12] <dank101> anyone?
[02:13] <hachre> dank101: no
[02:13] <hachre> dank101: if you install the nivida drivers that are in the software & updates menu those are fine
[02:13] <dank101> hache OH MY GOD
[02:14] <dank101> WHAT DID CONONICAL DO TO MAKE 13.04 SO MUCH BETTER?
[02:14] <hachre> didnt sleep 6 months
[02:14] <hachre> :D
[02:14] <KyeRussell> dat capslock you got there is pretty intense
[02:14] <dank101> I'm sooooooooo happy!
[02:15] <dank101> Now i can play half-life and tf2!
[02:15] <FearNotMan>  I have a weird problem, and I'm hoping you guys can help me.  When I installed, I selected the full disk encryption with LVM option.  Everything worked great for a while.  Now for some reason when I boot up I am not asked for a key to decrypt the encrypted portion, but rather Gnome tries to start up and then displays the screen in the picture on this question:
[02:16] <hachre> FearNotMan: link missing
[02:16] <Arrarita> OK, it has finishing installing.  I hope this works.  Thank you again and have a good night.
[02:16] <caleb__> tarvid you there?
[02:16] <hachre> Arrarita: night :)
[02:16] <FearNotMan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-suspected-grub-kernel-config-file-messed-up
[02:16] <FearNotMan> Here's a paste output from boot-repair
[02:16] <FearNotMan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606802/
[02:17] <aliendude5300> 13.04
[02:18] <dank101> i wish i could pay cononical
[02:18] <dank101> but im broke
[02:18] <tarvid> caleb__, I'm here, just preoccuped
[02:18] <hachre> FearNotMan: someone who has experience with luks should be able to help you with that
[02:19] <FearNotMan> hachre:  Is there someone here that has experience with luks?
[02:20] <hachre> FearNotMan: you'll have to wait and see... I don't sadly
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, You are missing grub boot files and a fstab in your install.
[02:20] <FearNotMan> hachre:  No problem.  Thanks for you help!
[02:21] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee:  Any idea how it happened, or how to fix it?
[02:22] <Biafra> Okay, turns out the issue with the clean install crashing was due to checking the box to install the Fluendo codecs
[02:22] <Biafra> that's odd
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, Not sure the cause, personally I would chroot to the install from a live media and purge and reinstall grub, the bootrepair tool might have a purge and reinstall option but I never use it so don't know.
[02:24] <alien2050> anyone knows how to rescale an application in dual screen? Its kinda stuck in the middle of the two displays and cannot be expanded for some reason... I want the app to be 3000x1080 instead of 1900x1080.... all my windows (gnome) have this behavior
[02:24] <betrayd> the app might think 1900x1080 is the max
[02:25] <betrayd> alien2050: not twinview on nvidia?
[02:26] <alien2050> yes, twinview on nvidia
[02:26] <_mote_> !version
[02:26] <Freel0ader> hi friends!
[02:26] <Freel0ader> https://launchpad.net/gvoice-notifier
[02:26] <Freel0ader> any way to use that with gnome-shell, so i can use with fedora?
[02:27] <dank101> ask on #fedora
[02:27] <alien2050> it kind of work if I put the window in the middle of the two screens and then resize it, BUT its kinda weird behavior sometimes when resizing it snaps back to only one monitor
[02:27] <Freel0ader> no
[02:27] <Freel0ader> it's an ubuntu program
[02:27] <dank101> Freel0ader, IT WORKS MULTI-LINUX
[02:27] <betrayd> alien2050: are you able to get to nvidia X server settings
[02:28] <Freel0ader> dank101, IM WONDERING IF YOU CAN USE IT WITH GNOME-SHELL
[02:28] <dank101> Freel0ader: YES!
[02:28] <alien2050> I think there's some application that manages the screen that manages that, but I can't find it...
[02:28] <alien2050> betrayd: yes I'm in nvidia-settings
[02:28] <dank101> Freel0ader, now treat people like people
[02:28] <alien2050> betrayd: you think the option in there somewhere?
[02:28] <dank101> i gave honest advice and you yelled at me
[02:29] <betrayd> alien2050: save your current xorg.conf
[02:29] <Freel0ader> dank101, you yelled at me, bro
[02:29] <dank101> Freel0ader, so it popped out
[02:29] <betrayd> alien2050: you might have to disable twinview and go for BigDesktop
[02:29] <Freel0ader> i just wish i could find a gnome version of this program
[02:29]  * dank101 facepalms 
[02:29] <Freel0ader> that shows google voice sms
[02:30] <Freel0ader> dank101, don't taze me, bro
[02:30] <betrayd> lol
[02:30] <dank101> Freel0ader, the notifactions on unity are gnome are =
[02:30] <Freel0ader> oh
[02:30] <Freel0ader> i mean, would it appear as a shell applet?
[02:30] <alien2050> betrayd: I see... but it looks like it's another application that manages the windows that does that, for example when I resize I see the window shade with a different color
[02:30] <dank101> yes
[02:30] <Freel0ader> WELL THEN
[02:30] <Freel0ader> i stand CORRECTED
[02:30] <dank101> no wonder 90% of gnome apps are on ubuntu
[02:31] <dank101> i looked up system in unity
[02:31] <Freel0ader> let's see if i can even compile it
[02:31] <dank101> i saw a windows box
[02:31] <dank101> i am offended
[02:32] <Freel0ader> dank101, hugs?
[02:32] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: I tried reinstalling grub using the boot-repair tool, but it made no difference.  I found the fstab in the /etc but that is part of the encrypted partition, so I would think the problem must be in /boot somewhere since that is the only thing that is unencrypted at startup time
[02:32] <dank101> Freel0ader, i need some
[02:33] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: I am running a Live CD with the disk mounted and unencrypted
[02:33] <Arrarita> Hello again, I am still having the problem with my screen freezing and pages scrolling.  Is there something else I can do?
[02:33] <betrayd> alien2050: some things you might be able to run in 'advanced mode' in nvidia X server settings
[02:33] <dank101> Freel0ader, i forgot to mention, it will compile as a deb
[02:33] <Freel0ader> bzr branch lp:gvoice-notifier doing this now
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, Could be, I have not seen if there grub files are not detectable, however you are missing grub files.
[02:33] <dank101> use alien to covert it to a RPM
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: out of ideas then, sorry
[02:34] <Freel0ader> i wonder if development is dead
[02:34] <Arrarita> Would another of those drivers work?
[02:34] <Freel0ader> how do i compile it after i bzr?
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: I doubt it
[02:34] <Freel0ader> oh, just like svn
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: if it behaves the same way it wasnt the driver
[02:34] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: Do you know which grub files are missing? Is that in the report?
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: is it a laptop?
[02:34] <betrayd> Arrarita: keyboard and mouse both USB?
[02:35] <Freel0ader> crap!
[02:35] <Arrarita> No, my desktop
[02:35] <Arrarita> not using USB
[02:35] <Arrarita> I hate to give up Ubuntu, but with every update things get worse
[02:35] <dank101> Freel0ader, mind if i make this easier for you
[02:36] <Arrarita> and I am not savy enough to figure things out.
[02:36] <Freel0ader> yay
[02:36] <alien2050> betrayd: yeah I didn't think of that, but it doesn't change anything for now... even in different mode; BUT I did manage to find that compiz is loaded, so it must be an option in ccsm somewhere
[02:36] <Arrarita> I can't do my work
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, This is what mine shows /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img
[02:36] <Freel0ader> ImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.auto - drat
[02:36] <hachre> Arrarita: does it happen constantly or only when you are in a browser?
[02:37] <heroandtn3> Hello, I'm using GNOME Shell 3.6.3 on Ubuntu 13.04 and has an issue with GNOME Shell memory leak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnEens9Byeg
[02:37] <betrayd> alien2050: i went with bigDesktop so the twin displays acted as 1 large side of a cube
[02:37] <heroandtn3> I have this issue since Ubuntu 12.10 and this has not been fixed in Ubuntu 13.04
[02:37] <Arrarita> When I have a browser open, it affects everything, including word documents
[02:37] <heroandtn3> what I should do to fix this?
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: and when you close the browser it stops?
[02:38] <trism> Freel0ader: python-distutils-extra
[02:38] <Arrarita> yes
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: firefox or chrome?
[02:38] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: Thank you very much for your help.  I am missing the core.img
[02:38] <alien2050> betrayd: Do you mean "seperate X screen" ? or is there a BigDesktop mode? I've got the latest 330.xx installed
[02:38] <Arrarita> Firefox
[02:38] <alien2050> betrayd: I don't see a BigDesktop option
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: its the accelerated rendering of the browser, so its a graphics issue after all... weird that the driver didnt fix it...
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, the sda5 wont show what is there so it is kinda hard to really tell.
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: can you go to the unity menu again and type nvidia-settings
[02:38] <betrayd> alien2050: am not sure if you'll see it when Twinview is enabled
[02:39] <OerHeks> !bug | heroandtn3
[02:39] <Arrarita> ok
[02:39] <hachre> Arrarita: there is a section on the left called Thermal Settings
[02:39] <betrayd> you might have to search wikis for nvidia multimonitor compiz, et
[02:39] <hachre> Arrarita: it tells you the temperature of the graphics card, what is it?
[02:39] <betrayd>  etc*
[02:40] <Freel0ader> poopie
[02:40] <Freel0ader> ImportError: No module named indicate
[02:40] <Arrarita> I can't find a thermal setting, but I do have an indicator on my box and the CPU says 33
[02:40] <hachre> Arrarita: yeah but we need the graphics card
[02:41] <alien2050> betrayd: ATI's Big Desktop is similar to NVIDIA's TwinView under Linux... so I guess bigDesktop on radeon is the equivalent of twinview on nvidia
[02:41] <Arrarita> would that be it?
[02:41] <heroandtn3> OerHeks: thanks, I will try
[02:41] <hachre> Arrarita: no thats the processor
[02:41] <Arrarita> ok, I opened the menu and I typed Nvidia
[02:41] <betrayd> alien2050: see what tips there are so that the graphical representation of hte 2 displays can be merged onto 1 spanning desktop
[02:41] <hachre> Arrarita: doesnt it finda  program called nvidia x server settings?
[02:41] <Arrarita> onboard settings came up and settings
[02:41] <Arrarita> I don't see anything like that
[02:41] <hachre> Arrarita: seems to me your driver instalaltion didnt work
[02:42] <hachre> Arrarita: can you go on the terminal and type
[02:42] <betrayd> hachre: it might appear on a root menu
[02:42] <Arrarita> let me open a terminal
[02:42] <hachre> Arrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings
[02:42] <Freel0ader> drat
[02:42] <Freel0ader> i think libindicate is just ubuntu
[02:43] <trism> Freel0ader: wouldn't help in 12.10+ anyway since the messaging menu uses a new api now
[02:43] <Arrarita> it's installing
[02:43] <hachre> Arrarita: both or only one of them?
[02:43] <Arrarita> Both?
[02:44] <Arrarita> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:44] <Arrarita>   nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:44] <Arrarita> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:44] <Arrarita>   nvidia-settings
[02:44] <Arrarita> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:44] <FloodBot1> Arrarita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <Arrarita> Need to get 1,820 kB of archives.
[02:44] <Belial> if you tried to spell "ubuntu" as "butnut" there'd still be an extra "u."
[02:44] <Belial> you know what i mean?
[02:44] <hachre> Arrarita: ok that was wrong
[02:45] <hachre> Arrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:45] <Arrarita> OK
[02:45] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: Thanks again for your help!  I am slowly piecing this thing together...
[02:45] <Arrarita> I copied and pasted what you have here, is that ok?
[02:45] <hachre> Arrarita: yea I saw, do this instead
[02:45] <hachre> Arrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:45] <alien2050> betrayd: best I could find was panning option, but it pans the whole desktop as 3840x1080 on the first monitor instead...
[02:45] <Freel0ader> drat!
[02:45] <Freel0ader> trism, so i cant use it???
[02:46] <alien2050> betrayd: that's in the "advanced options" of nvidia-settings...
[02:46] <dank101> Freel0ader, https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5BIHhwzM7wWUmJVOFRyWXQzSkk/edit?usp=sharing
[02:46] <trism> Freel0ader: it would need to be ported first
[02:46] <dank101> works on fedora
[02:46] <dank101> i ported it
[02:46] <Arrarita>  sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:46] <Arrarita> Reading package lists... Done
[02:46] <Arrarita> Building dependency tree
[02:46] <Arrarita> Reading state information... Done
[02:46] <Arrarita> nvidia-313-updates is already the newest version.
[02:46] <FloodBot1> Arrarita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <Arrarita> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:46] <betrayd> alien2050: i almost didn't have to set up the second monitor and it'd show me the rest of whats on the left just fine
[02:47] <OerHeks> AaronDCampbell,
[02:47] <betrayd> alien2050: you may want to try the max window trick
[02:47] <hachre> Arrarita: good, the other thing it should have installed now
[02:47] <hachre> Arrarita: try searching for nvidia-settings again
[02:47] <hachre> Arrarita: in that menu
[02:47] <OerHeks> Arrarita, please use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[02:48] <Arrarita> Not sure I understand
[02:48] <betrayd> Arrarita: dont dump all the text here is all
[02:49] <alien2050> betrayd: just to be clear, I see the two output, I just can't scale an application spanning from the first monitor to the second one, it "glues" in the middle while resizing with a colored shade (which I'm guessing comes from compiz option somewhere)
[02:49] <Arrarita> oh ok, sorry
[02:49] <auscompgeek> Arrarita, as a general rule of thumb, pasting more than 3 lines in IRC is frowned upon
[02:49] <betrayd> alien2050: understood, but the apps all think thats the max
[02:49] <Arrarita> I do apologize
[02:49] <betrayd> the 'wrong' max
[02:49] <Arrarita> This is my first time using this thing.
[02:49] <betrayd> nostress Arrarita
[02:49] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: who told you that?
[02:50] <auscompgeek> mmhmm, it's something I've observed across the years
[02:50] <hachre> Arrarita: any luck starting nvidia-settings now?
[02:50] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: so you don't have a soure?
[02:50] <Arrarita> OK, you said to search for something
[02:50] <Arrarita> ok, let me look for that.
[02:50] <auscompgeek> mmhmm: not really
[02:50] <Arrarita> No, same thing
[02:50] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: how many years have you been on irc?
[02:51] <hachre> Arrarita: try launching it via the terminal, nvidia-settings
[02:51] <alien2050> betrayd: yeah it looks like they think it's the max... that's too bad... I really thought it was only a simple configuration option... I've had bad experiences when not using twinview... oh well... thank you for your help
[02:52] <tophalf01> I've been using IRC sinc 1989 hurhur <.>
[02:52] <betrayd> you're welcome, alien2050
[02:52] <Arrarita> Just type nvidia-settings ?
[02:52] <hachre> Arrarita: yea
[02:52] <auscompgeek> mmhmm: lost track
[02:53] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: it's time to get back on track.
[02:53] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: general rule of thumb.
[02:53] <alien2050> betrayd: and you know what, it DOES work when putting the window in the middle, then stretching on the second monitor, then moving it back to the center, resizing again, move, resize, etc... its just long and boring to do...
[02:54] <Arrarita> ok, something about not using the NVIDIA X driver, edit X configuration
[02:54] <Arrarita> and another box
[02:54] <hachre> Arrarita: can you run lspci and paste that output to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <Arrarita> NVIDIA X Server Settings
[02:54] <alien2050> betrayd: and if I do xwininfo on the stretched window, it has accepted it new width and height
[02:54] <betrayd> alien2050: you might want to try devilspie (which will enforce a max window the alternative way)
[02:54] <betrayd> if its in the repos
[02:55] <alien2050> betrayd: cool let me try that... thx again
[02:55] <betrayd> ywelcome alien2050 and have fun, don't forget
[02:56] <mmhmm> does anyone like pie?
[02:56] <dank101> ME!
[02:56] <mmhmm> what kind of pie?
[02:56] <Corey> Let's keep this on topic. :-)
[02:56] <mmhmm> ok...let's see
[02:56] <dank101> mmhmm, LINUX PIE!
[02:56] <mmhmm> does anyone like pie while using ubuntu?
[02:56] <dank101> YES!
[02:56] <mmhmm> what kind of pie do you like while using ubuntu?
[02:57] <dank101> it's on topic 'cause it's ubuntu pie
[02:57] <dank101> Ubuntu pie
[02:57] <mmhmm> does anyone use ubuntu while having poontang pie?
[02:58] <Arrarita> NVIDIA X Server Settings, is this what I need?
[02:58] <hachre> Arrarita: yeah, if it shows the temperature
[02:58] <hachre> Arrarita: but with that error message i doubt it
[02:58] <mmhmm> what about eating ice cream cake while using ubuntu?
[02:58] <mmhmm> would someone rather eat ice cream cake or eat pie while using ubuntu?
[02:59] <Arrarita> I don't see anything with a temperature
[02:59] <Guest22816> ice cream cake
[02:59] <mmhmm> that's right
[02:59] <hachre> Arrarita: please do lspci and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <kostkon> Arrarita, have you opened your box, removed your card and reinserted it just to make sure that it sits well in the pci slot?
[03:00] <Arrarita> I think that is way past what I am able to do.
[03:00] <kostkon> Arrarita, ok then
[03:00] <Guest22816> anyone else get crazy cpu spike and over heating while using flash?
[03:00] <Guest22816> spikes*
[03:00] <hachre> Guest22816: ya, thats normal
[03:00] <Arrarita> I had to take my box to be reinstalled because Launchpad told me something to do and my machine would not even boot up
[03:00] <Arrarita> he had to reconfigure something
[03:01] <Arrarita> and he checked everything
[03:01] <Arrarita> this was a couple of weeks ago
[03:01] <Arrarita> this problem started with one of those updates a couple of weeks after I installed 12.10
[03:01] <mmhmm> you guys ever use ubuntu?
[03:01] <kostkon> Arrarita, ah ok then. although it could be a temp problem as already suggested
[03:01] <Arrarita> I started getting messages that all the updates would not install
[03:01] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[03:02] <Arrarita> it's been crazy ever since
[03:02] <mmhmm> you guys ever use ubuntu.....ON WEED?
[03:02] <sonofzeus> How shall I change my lubuntu desktop into lubuntu server without reinstalling?
[03:02] <OerHeks> !ot| mmhmm
[03:02] <Arrarita> This box here is showing nvidia-settings configuration
[03:03] <Arrarita> temperature problem?
[03:03] <mmhmm> 0erHeks, topic is ubuntu qualified. thanks for participating.
[03:03] <Arrarita> What's a HDD
[03:03] <dank101> does Additional Drivers work on 13.04
[03:03] <Arrarita> or HPD
[03:03] <sonofzeus> hard drive
[03:03] <dank101> some people say it doesn;t
[03:03] <Arrarita> So small I can barely read it.
[03:03] <OerHeks> sonofzeus, there is no lubuntu-server, you can run any service at your lubuntu box.
[03:03] <Arrarita> that number says 26
[03:04] <Spaceghost> Hello.
[03:04] <mmhmm> !lubuntu| OerHeks
[03:04] <dank101> anyone?
[03:04] <OerHeks> mmhmm stop it.
[03:04] <Guest22816> why can't I add any ppa's on 13.04? do I have to wait untill their supported or something?
[03:04] <dank101> !ubuntu| ubottu
[03:04] <Spaceghost> I am having a problem and it's that the Control Volume doesn't work and the sound works even in mute.
[03:04] <hachre> Guest22816: should work as usual, what doesnt work?
[03:04] <mmhmm> OerHeks: please stay on topic.
[03:04] <Spaceghost> I am using Kubuntu 12.10.
[03:05] <dank101> Anyone??
[03:06] <Arrarita> Where do I run nvidia-xconfig and restart the X server?
[03:06] <OerHeks> dank101, depends on your videocard, you cannot state "additional drivers do not work."
[03:07] <dank101> OerHeks, Thanks i have a nvidia 555m
[03:07] <dank101> GeForce
[03:07] <dank101> (Offically supported by nvidia)
[03:08] <mmhmm> !drivers| OerHeks
[03:08] <mmhmm> :(
[03:08] <Aaruni> hey guys. why doesn't "sudo halt" or "sudo shutdown now" power off my system ?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[03:08] <OerHeks> mmhmm stop that please, you are annoying
[03:09] <mmhmm> !ot| OerHeks
[03:09] <hachre> Aaruni: sudo poweroff
[03:09] <Aaruni> hachre: so, it will shutdown, and then poweroff ?
[03:09] <hachre> Aaruni: yes
[03:09] <Aaruni> hachre: so, what's the point of shutting down, or halting, without powering off/
[03:09] <OerHeks> !ops | mmhmm
[03:10] <mmhmm> !ops | OerHeks
[03:10] <hachre> Aaruni: well thats from ages ago when power off wasnt available, and they left those commands in for compatibility
[03:10] <Aww> ...
[03:10] <Aaruni> hachre: ok, thank you for clearing it up
[03:10] <hachre> Aaruni: if you want halt to act like poweroff you need to alias it in /etc/profile.d/
[03:10] <Aaruni> bye
[03:10] <hachre> bye
[03:10] <mmhmm> !help | OerHeks
[03:11] <Anti-S1eep> D:
[03:11] <Spaceghost> I am having a problem and it's that the Control Volume doesn't work and the sound works even in mute.
[03:11] <Spaceghost> I am using Kubuntu 12.10.
[03:11] <kostkon> wrong person
[03:12] <dank101> !kubuntu | Spaceghost
[03:12] <mmhmm> !fuck | you
[03:13] <Arrarita> Hello, how do I fix a temperature problem?
[03:13] <Freel0ader> hi
[03:13] <dank101> Arrarita, i know this issue
[03:13] <dank101> happens to me
[03:14] <Freel0ader> so does that mean the program wont work anymore?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> Freel0ader, greetings
[03:14] <dank101> let the computer sit
[03:14] <dank101> Freel0ader, ?
[03:14] <Arrarita> not sure that is what it is, but I am willing to try anything
[03:14] <dank101> Turn it off
[03:14] <Arrarita> turn what off?
[03:14] <dank101> the computer
[03:14] <dank101> 10m to 3hr
[03:15] <Arrarita> my problem has to do with my screen freezing and pages scrolling uncontrollably
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, destkop?laptop?  and have you cleaned the vents recently?
[03:15] <Arrarita> some else here suggested that it might be a temperature problem
[03:15] <Arrarita> desktop
[03:16] <Arrarita> it was just in the shop to be reconfigured so that I could use it after following some instruction from Launchpad on how to fix it.
[03:16] <Arrarita> The technician cleaned and checked everything
[03:16] <Arrarita> The other person suggested there might be a problem wtih the driver
[03:17] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, don't know how qualified your tech was, but fans/vents can and do get blocked ... any unusual noise?
[03:17] <alien2050> I found the solution finally... yes! no more resizing manually
[03:17] <dank101> probably overhesting
[03:17] <Arrarita> no noises
[03:17] <mdmkolbe> on my sister's laptop none of the screen widgets are showing when she logs in (i.e., all she sees is the background image).  Can someone help debug this?  I don't know where to start.
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !fan
[03:17] <Arrarita> this problem started with an update
[03:17] <Arrarita> after 12.10
[03:18] <Arrarita> prior to that I had no problems
[03:19] <turova> Hello! I just downloaded 13.04 and am trying to install it on a dell xps 17 (l702x) that has 2 graphics cards.  It won't boot into the desktop - I see a mouse cursor on a black screen. With 12.04, I had to use the alternate installer because the desktop installer wouldn't boot (most likely due to optimus).. With 13.04, there's no alternate installer image… Is there a way to get it working with 13.04?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, try this: reboot and choose and older kernel/version of ubuntu.  Monitor your temp.  If it fixes, then the kernel update is suspect
[03:20] <alien2050> mdmkolbe: could be an upgrade left some artifacts, trying pointing her home directory to another directory, so it will create a new gnome/kde profile when she logs in
[03:20] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|turova,
[03:20] <Arrarita> You have to bear with me, I don't understand half this stuff.  How do I choose an older version of ubuntu?  do I have to reinstall it?
[03:21] <Arrarita> and where do I monitor the temp?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, no problem.  reboot.  on the grub screen, you should see "older version" .   Choose one
[03:21] <unowindows8> hello all
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, however you are doing it now that makes you think it's too hot
[03:21] <unowindows8> I see you are busy with Arrarita but let me know when you can help me.  I messed up my grub, and can't even live boot on my Windows 8 machine
[03:22] <cfhowlett> unowindows8, greetings
[03:22] <Arrarita> I don't remember seeing that.  I just installed 13.04
[03:22] <Freel0ader> dank101,help
[03:22] <dank101> Freel0ader, yes
[03:22] <Arrarita> Another person I was working with here suggested it might be too hot.
[03:22] <Freel0ader> ImportError: No module named indicate
[03:22] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, ah, well, then you "upgraded" from 12.10 ... not update.  details matter.
[03:22] <dank101> Freel0ader, ubuntu only
[03:22] <dank101> sorry
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, another person?  on irc?  who isn't holding/touching your machine ... :)  Why do YOU think it's running hot?
[03:23] <Arrarita> This problem started with 12.10.  I upgraded today hoping this problem would be fixed and it's not
[03:23] <Arrarita> someone on irc
[03:24] <Freel0ader> dank101, so, i cant use this program after all:O
[03:24] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, what problem?  you said "temperature" issues .. so that's NOT the issue?  or did I misunderstand?
[03:24] <dank101> Freel0ader, sadly you are correct
[03:24] <Arrarita> OK, let me do this again.
[03:25] <unowindows8> hi cfhowlett
[03:25] <unowindows8> hadn't seen you
[03:25] <Arrarita> My problem has to do with my computer constantly freezing when I have my browser open and uncontrollable scrolling.
[03:25] <unowindows8> i broke my grub, already tried several things
[03:25] <Arrarita> It happens when I have a word document open as well
[03:25] <Arrarita> I can't do any work on it because it keeps freezing
[03:25] <Arrarita> and scrolling
[03:26] <Arrarita> Another person on irc first suggested it might be the driving not config correctly
[03:26] <ajm> hey everyone. need some help. I installed gnome-tweak-tool (per http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-tweak-tool-a-tool-for-changing-specialised-or-advanced-gnome3-settings.html) and ever since, my Unity has been completely borked. How can I reset everything back t ohow it was?
[03:26] <Arrarita> and I was not able to get into nvidia settings
[03:26]  * unowindows8 scratches his head for not reason at all
[03:26] <unowindows8> *no
[03:26] <turova> ubottu: I enabled that and could see the startup screen, but then it went to a black screen.  When I did ctrl-alt-f5, ctrl-alt-f7, it shows me the same black screen with a mouse pointer, but at a worse resolution than when I booted without that flag.  Are optimus issues generally fixed with nomodeset?  If so, maybe I should just flash the image onto a different usb stick and try again
[03:26] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, I see.  try this (suspecting desktop environment issues), logout.  click on the ubuntu icon to select a different envirnonent, i.e. non-unity.  login
[03:27] <turova> oh, right - I meant cfhowlett
[03:27] <Arrarita> I will try and figure that out, but I have no clue what a non-unity environment is.
[03:28] <Arrarita> Thank you, I am going to try that.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, you'll see options on the login menu ... click the ubunt icon to trigger
[03:28] <Morph4me> she left
[03:28] <hachre> cfhowlett: I tried to help her before, and after a while she simply stopped responding to me...
[03:28] <hachre> cfhowlett: dont bother
[03:28] <hachre> ;)
[03:29] <dfrey> I'm having sound problems after upgrading to 13.04.  Are there any cached settings I can try deleting for pulseaudio or alsa?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> OK ...
[03:29] <hachre> cfhowlett: she has no working graphics drivers installed for acceleration and firefoxes web rendering acceleration causes her issues - i tried to make her give me an lspci output to figure out what graphics card she has but she stopped responding
[03:30] <Morph4me> i think it's like she says though it's a little over her head
[03:30] <hachre> yeah but she ran shell commands fine before, and also she could just say so instead of stopping to respond..
[03:31] <Morph4me> true but at times hse did say she couldn't grasp it ...frustrated i think
[03:31] <tophalf01> Ι'd јuѕt lіkе tο іntеrјесt fοr а mοmеnt. Wһаt уοu'rе rеfеrrіng tο аѕ Lіnux, іѕ іn fасt, GΝU/Lіnux, οr аѕ Ι'vе rесеntlу tаkеn tο саllіng іt, GΝU рluѕ Lіnux. Lіnux іѕ nοt аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtеm untο іtѕеlf, but rаtһеr аnοtһеr frее сοmрοnеnt οf а fullу funсtіοnіng GΝU ѕуѕtеm mаdе uѕеful bу tһе GΝU сοr
[03:31] <tophalf01> еlіbѕ, ѕһеll utіlіtіеѕ аnd vіtаl ѕуѕtеm сοmрοnеntѕ сοmрrіѕіng а full OS аѕ dеfіnеd bу ΡOSΙX.
[03:31] <tophalf01> Mаnу сοmрutеr uѕеrѕ run а mοdіfіеd vеrѕіοn οf tһе GΝU ѕуѕtеm еvеrу dау, wіtһοut rеаlіzіng іt. Τһrοugһ а ресulіаr turn οf еvеntѕ, tһе vеrѕіοn οf GΝU wһісһ іѕ wіdеlу uѕеd tοdау іѕ οftеn саllеd "Lіnux", аnd mаnу οf іtѕ uѕеrѕ аrе nοt аwаrе tһаt іt іѕ bаѕісаllу tһе GΝU ѕуѕtеm, dеvеlοреd b
[03:31] <Morph4me> she*
[03:31] <tophalf01> у tһе GΝU Ρrοјесt.
[03:31] <tophalf01> Τһеrе rеаllу іѕ а Lіnux, аnd tһеѕе реοрlе аrе uѕіng іt, but іt іѕ јuѕt а раrt οf tһе ѕуѕtеm tһеу uѕе. Lіnux іѕ tһе kеrnеl: tһе рrοgrаm іn tһе ѕуѕtеm tһаt аllοсаtеѕ tһе mасһіnе'ѕ rеѕοurсеѕ tο tһе οtһеr рrοgrаmѕ tһаt уοu run. Τһе kеrnеl іѕ аn еѕѕеntіаl раrt οf аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtе
[03:31] <FloodBot1> tophalf01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <hachre> lol
[03:32] <hachre> what the hell
[03:32] <hachre> go spread your religion elsewhere :D
[03:32] <hachre> Linux isnt GNU and has nothing to do with GNU and GNU is no os
[03:33] <hachre> get your facts straight, preacher
[03:33] <tophalf01> Oh, God.
[03:33] <tophalf01> I'm switching to Hurd as soon as possible.
[03:33] <hachre> well good luck with that lol
[03:34] <tophalf01> So, what you're saying is, you don't know what GNU is.
[03:34] <hachre> no what I'm saying is you don't know the difference between userland tools and an os
[03:34] <Corey> Let's keep this channel for Ubuntu support, please.
[03:36] <aliendude5300> Hey, Ubuntu isn't detecting my Windows 8 partition, and I want to be able to dual boot into that for Photoshop CS5 and some other things that don't work with Linux quite yet (or as well)
[03:36] <aliendude5300> How can I fix that?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !ot|tophalf01,
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !uefi|aliendude5300, I'd suspect some uefi issues
[03:38] <aliendude5300> cfhowlett, I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 right now. Is there anything I can do to add Windows 8 to the boot menu. Also, yes, I am on a UEFI system with SecureBoot disabled.
[03:44] <aliendude5300> Sigh... it would be really nice to get my dual boot working :/
[03:44] <Ed|Laptop> Hey Guys, currently running "release do-upgrade" on a Ubuntu 12.10 Server 64bit machine to update to Ubuntu 13.04 Server 64bit.   The Server has a gigabit internet connection and is using about 20% CPU/memory.    This update has been running almost 3 hours now, is this normal?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Ed|Laptop, kind of depends on your DL speed, innit?
[03:45] <Ed|Laptop> Gigabit internet
[03:45] <aliendude5300> Ed|Laptop,  it might be because it's downloading the files. Because of the rather recent release, it would take longer because of the overloaded Ubuntu mirrors
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Ed|Laptop, but I suspect the servers are swamped ... torrent and clean install are the recommended work around
[03:45] <Ed|Laptop> ok i gotcha
[03:45] <Ed|Laptop> that makes sense
[03:46] <snowrichard> oh there's a 2013 version just released...
[03:46] <Ed|Laptop> when did 2013.04 release? Wasn't it a couple weeks ago?
[03:47] <aliendude5300> April 25
[03:47] <ranjeet> Hi everyone, I am a new user to Ubuntu 12.10. Can someone help me turn off the firewall
[03:47] <mdmkolbe> alien2050: thx, for the suggestion.  It turns out that something was corrupted in the session like you suggested and a "unity --reset" fixed it.
[03:47] <Ed|Laptop> damn! ok that makes even more sense then, ok thanks  lol
[03:47] <ranjeet> I would like to access my machine from office?
[03:47] <sam113101> what am I doing wrong? https://gist.github.com/sam113101/b74c433486d291c307fd
[03:47] <cfhowlett> ranjeet, firewall is not enabled by default
[03:47] <turova> cfhowlett: I just reflashed onto a new usb stick and ran with and without nomodeset and neither of those helps
[03:48] <ranjeet> but why am I unable to connect from office to home or vice versa
[03:48] <ranjeet> any help is appreciated
[03:48] <cfhowlett> turova, re-ask in this channel and state your attempted fixes.  someone else might know
[03:49] <turova> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[03:49] <ranjeet> cfhowlett: anything you would suggest?
[03:50] <renzom> hey everyone, i just upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10 and when i restarted, the desktop appeared and a few seconds later a kernel-panic black window showed up. It happens everytime I start my notebook. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
[03:50] <aliendude5300> renzom, I just had that exact same problem and spent 4 hours figuring it out... do you have an Nvidia GPU by any chance?
[03:52] <aliendude5300> here's how I fixed that: In GRUB I added the nomodeset flag after the quiet in the boot options, then I started up in recovery mode while plugged into ethernet, did sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. That did the trick.
[03:52] <nastsu> could anyone give me a hand, I was installing couchdb when it wouldnt stop so I used kill -9 {pid} and now it wont start again, even after purging and restarting
[03:53] <renzom> aliendude5300:  no i don't have an nvidia card :(
[03:53] <aliendude5300> try to do the same thing with fglrx instead of nvidia-current
[03:53] <aliendude5300> I think it might be a graphics driver issue for you too
[03:54] <aliendude5300> I upgraded by formatting my 12.10 partition, copying my /home to my external, and reinstalling 13.04. it was a pain, but I eventually got it
[03:54] <Guest75521> easist way to stream videos from my pc to tablet?
[03:54] <renzom> aliendude5300:  i'm sorry but i don't understand the "add the nomodeset flag" part of your explanation, can you further explain this part please?
[03:55] <Guest75521> renzom getting a blank screen? lol
[03:56] <aliendude5300> I honestly don't know what nomodeset does but it was suggested to me here when I asked for help. You hit e on the Ubuntu option, scroll your cursor to where it says 'quiet splash' then after quiet add a space and type "nomodeset" and then press ctrl-x to boot
[03:57] <renzom> aliendude5300:  excellent, i'll try that, thanks man!
[03:57] <aliendude5300> adding that option made it possible for me to boot, and then I installed the proprietary nvidia graphics driver which fixed all of my issues
[03:57] <nastsu> could anyone give me a hand, I was installing couchdb when it wouldnt stop so I used kill -9 {pid} and now it wont start again, even after purging and restarting
[03:57] <aliendude5300> you're welcome! :D
[03:57] <SonikkuAmerica> After trying the mini.iso install of 12.04 LTS, I find I can no longer change my security update settings with software-properties-gtk. Is this a result of the mini.iso install?
[03:59] <turova> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 x64 desktop and can't seem to get the installer desktop to boot.  I have a dell xps 17 (l702x) with optimus, which, I'm pretty sure, is why it won't load.  I installed 12.04 with the alternate installer iso, but they don't seem to be making those anymore.  I also tried setting the nomodeset flag, but that doesn't seem to help either - I see the loading screen, then a mouse cursor on a black screen, then ju
[03:59] <turova> black screen.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can get around this?
[04:00] <SonikkuAmerica> turova: You'd be right about the Optimus. Have you tried Bumblebee? (No. Seriously.)
[04:01] <turova> I can't get the installer to boot… I'm using bumblebee on my 12.04 instal
[04:01] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:01] <turova> SonikkuAmerica: but I'm trying to get 13.04 installed fresh over it and it won't even get into the installer
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> turova: You might try the alternate installer or the mini.iso
[04:02] <Biomechd> hey guys, is the canon ip2702 compatible with ubuntu 12.10?
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> like I did.
[04:02] <Biomechd> or is there anything i can do to get it to print?
[04:03] <turova> SonikkuAmerica: I wanted to use the alternate installer because that's how I installed 12.04, but I don't think it exists for 13.04…
[04:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Biomechd: The first few Google search results for "canon ip2702 ubuntu" might help.
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> turova: It should! Look for ubuntu-13.04-alternate-$ARCH.iso, where $ARCH is i386 or amd64
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> After trying the mini.iso install of 12.04 LTS, I find I can no longer change my security update settings with software-properties-gtk. Is this a result of the mini.iso install?
[04:05] <zgudino> about to update my 12.10 to 13.04
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, Should not be.
[04:05] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: How, may I ask?
[04:05] <Corey> nastsu: What do the logs say?
[04:06] <turova> SonikkuAmerica: Yea, I really don't think that exists… That was what I looked for before coming here… At least I can't find it anywhere.  You mind giving me a link if you know where it is?
[04:06] <nastsu> the logs arent telling me anything based on what I can see, though I don't know if I was looking in the right places
[04:06] <zgudino> SonikkuAmerica press alt + f2
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: Oh wow, you're still up. Yeah, for some reason it's grayed out, the combo box for "When there are security updates:" (This is for 12.04)
[04:06] <zgudino> and type
[04:06] <ranjeet> can someone give some suggestions what sofwares to install in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:06] <zgudino> update-manager -d
[04:07] <zgudino> and then just follow the instruction
[04:07] <zgudino> :)
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: Oh. I don't need your instructions; I was just wondering what method you used.
[04:07] <zgudino> hehe
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: And you don't need the -d
[04:07] <cfhowlett> ranjeet, go to software center.  see what you like.
[04:07] <Biomechd> SonikkuAmerica: the driver says "i386". doesn't that mean it's for a 32-bit system? or will it work just fine on my 64-bit system?
[04:07] <Ed|Laptop> So after 3 hrs the upgrade from 12.10 to unbutu 13.04 finally wrapped up (makes sense now that I know the release was just yesterday).   Problem though is that post-reboot my ssh shell still tells me that a new release is available and to run "do-release-upgrade" however lsb_release -a shows that it is infact 13.04.   Is there something else I need to do?
[04:07] <zgudino> oh cool! thanks @SonikkuAmerica
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, I do remember something like that check the sources list against one generated here.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[04:08] <zgudino> it is right now downloding :)
[04:08] <aliendude5300> quick question -- where is the option to re-enable workspaces in 13.04
[04:08] <nastsu> Corey, I can't seem to find anything related to the application anywhere and the log folder for that application is empty
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Ed|Laptop, run sudo apt-get update  upgrade  dist-upgrade
[04:08] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: It'll be 12.10 when I reboot, but thanks for the link
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[04:08] <Corey> nastsu: Which application is this?
[04:08] <nastsu> Corey, couchdb
[04:09] <Corey> nastsu: There a lingering pid file in /var/run
[04:09] <Corey> ?
[04:09] <zgudino> I cant quite remember but it should be under system settings @ aliendude5300
[04:09] <zgudino> let me double check
[04:09] <nastsu> Corey, there seems to be one in there right now yes ( I did try to delete it earlier not sure if that was the right step for that)
[04:10] <zgudino> System Settings / Appearance and click the Behavior tab and check Enable workspaces.
[04:10] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: Another method you could try (which won't crash because of GTK+) is running [ do-release-upgrade ] in a tty.
[04:10] <Ed|Laptop> cfhowlett: OK thanks, ran this: apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get dist-upgrade -y;        |   Took about 30 seconds to run through without any errors, when I open a new SSH connection to the server though it still says "New release '13.04' available. \ Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it."
[04:10] <aliendude5300> zgudino: found it, thanks! :)
[04:11] <aliendude5300> don't know why they removed that by default
[04:11] <dank101> Ed|Laptop,  reboot it
[04:11] <zgudino> +1 @SonikkuAmerica
[04:11] <Ed|Laptop> dank101: already did once, should I a second time?
[04:11] <dank101> Ed|Laptop,  yes
[04:12] <Ed|Laptop> k thanks will try dank!
[04:13] <aliendude5300> Ed|Laptop, you can try checking your sources.list to make sure that you have all of your repos on raring before doing an upgrade. That might be the problem. I
[04:13] <GeekShed> Does #Ubuntu have a channel on irc.geekshed.net?
[04:13] <dank101> no
[04:13] <aliendude5300> It could also be a glitch, and you might already be on raring
[04:13] <dank101> out
[04:13] <GeekShed> Geekshed is better then Freenode.
[04:13] <NewbHelpmeh> Hey would anyone mind helping me for a second? I have something specific I'm trying to do, and can't find the right instructions on what I want.
[04:13] <dank101> GeekShed, GTFO
[04:13] <aliendude5300> NewbHelpmeh, ask away
[04:14] <Ed|Laptop> dank101: ok rebooted it second time, still shows the same message to "Run 'do-release-upgrade'
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !language
[04:14] <GeekShed> irc://irc.geekshed.net
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | GeekShed
[04:14] <GeekShed> MAC FOREVER!
[04:14] <Ed|Laptop> dank101: running that command shows "No new release found"
[04:14] <nastsu> Corey, it does seem to be empty as well... so
[04:14] <NewbHelpmeh> Well, I'm running Windows 8, and would like to install 13.04. I have an ssd, and 3 hdds. I would like to install to one of the hdds
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac
[04:14] <GeekShed> Ubuntu is a free loaders version of Mac.
[04:14] <Corey> nastsu: Of course the pid file is empty.  rm it. :-)
[04:15] <Kopkins> Ubuntu is a lot better
[04:15] <NewbHelpmeh> I'm not sure how the booting works when I install it that way.
[04:15] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekShed: Mac is a rip-off of FreeBSD, not Linux.
[04:15] <GeekShed> Kopkins the best things in life are sure not free.
[04:15] <aliendude5300> GeekShed is a troll... just ignore him until he gets kicked.
[04:15] <GeekShed> With mac you get a computer that can handle everything and what does ubuntu have *Cricket sounds*
[04:15] <dank101> GeekShed, Go waste your money on 6000$ laptops with the freeBSD clone calling it there oen
[04:15] <NewbHelpmeh> Can you point me in the right direction for this?
[04:16] <Ed|Laptop> GeekShed: We're all very proud of the fact that mommy and daddy spent $3,000 on a facebook portal for you, now move along......
[04:16] <dank101> Someone kick him
[04:16] <GeekShed> Ed|Laptop I don't live with my parents bitch.
[04:16] <auscompgeek> NewbHelpmeh: should be simple enough to dual-boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu, as long as you install Ubuntu after Windows
[04:16] <nastsu> Corey after rming and what not it will just re-make itself when I try to run the process and creates a blank pid again :/ this is puzzling me as to why,,
[04:16] <IdleOne> !language | GeekShed
[04:16] <dank101> GeekShed, Awwww, is the wittle troll mad?
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !ot|GeekShed,
[04:16] <Ed|Laptop> ./ignore geekshed    <-run that without the leading period, problem solved
[04:16] <auscompgeek> NewbHelpmeh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:16] <GeekShed> Don't make me get the Ku Klux Klan in here.
[04:17] <aliendude5300> auscompgeek, I disagree. After installing Ubuntu, I can't boot my Windows 8 anymore... :(
[04:17] <Ed|Laptop> 67.212.62.33
[04:17] <Kopkins> When I boot 12.04.2  i get disabling irq #17. apparently it's about itterupt requests? so should that be turned on?
[04:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh thanks, IdleOne! Didn't know you were still up.
[04:17] <nugroho> WHA420355
[04:17] <nugroho> SOC155694
[04:17] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <Biomechd> so i'm trying to install my printer driver, and this is what i get. http://www.pasteall.org/41756 i followed what this post said. http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?23130-Canon-iP2702-in-64-bit-ubuntu
[04:17] <NewbHelpmeh> I have looked over that auscompgeek, and I'm just not sure how it's going to boot. Is GRUB going to take over? Win8 is on my SSD, so do I need to change the boot order to the hdd?
[04:18] <auscompgeek> oh, doesn't it discuss multi-disk configurations?
[04:19] <Ed|Laptop> OK So I've ran apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get distro-upgrade -y; on my Ubuntu 12.10 Server & rebooted it (twice).  lsb_release -a shows it is upgraded to version 13.04.  However, still when I re-connect post-reboot it displays: New release '13.04' available.
[04:19] <Ed|Laptop> any ideas?
[04:19] <Ed|Laptop> also have run do-release-upgrade multiple times with no change
[04:19] <NewbHelpmeh> It does, wait one.
[04:19] <aliendude5300> speaking of windows 8, does anyone know how to get my windows 8 partition to show up in GRUB so I can boot it? I need it for professional reasons, unfortunately
[04:19] <NewbHelpmeh> aliendude, that's the issue I'm afraid of, haha. I don't want to install and not have 8 show up.
[04:20] <Ed|Laptop> good luck aliendude5300, i can only get it to work if i install linux on top of Windows MBR
[04:20] <aliendude5300> NewbHelpmeh: If you don't have a UEFI system like I do, it seems to work fine
[04:20] <aliendude5300> Unfortunately, i'm screwed on that one haha
[04:20] <NewbHelpmeh> I do have UEFI I believe.
[04:20] <Biomechd> aliendude5300: just go up to your boss and be like "windows sucks ass and we need to switch to linux" lol
[04:20] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:20] <IdleOne> !language | Biomechd
[04:21] <dank101> Biomechd, Sir, you are the smartest person eve
[04:21] <dank101> r
[04:21] <Biomechd> dank101: why thank you lol
[04:21] <kanatsu> Good Night
[04:23] <nastsu> this problem is going to drive me nuts :(
[04:23] <spydon> The terminal on ubuntu 13.04 insists on opening bash instead of zsh even though zsh is in chsh, is there any solution for this?
[04:24] <Biomechd> can anyone help me with this? http://www.pasteall.org/41756
[04:24] <aliendude5300> Sigh... I figure I could probably add Windows 8 to the grub boot menu manually somehow since the os prober can't properly detect it, but I'm not knowledgeable to do so, and I'm afraid of breaking my now working system :(
[04:24] <Simons> Alguem br?
[04:24] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, Make a thread at the ubuntu forums, great help there.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> !br|Simon
[04:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !br | Simons
[04:26] <zgudino> so far so good it is installing right now :D
[04:26] <renzom> hi, today i upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 and i have a kernel-panic a few seconds after the desktop shows up, even if i try to ctrl+alt+f2 before it still crashes. I tried booting in safe mode but the system freezes few seconds after desktop appears. Any suggestions? thanks in advance
[04:26] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: you could probably reconfigure the Windows 8 bootloader to show Ubuntu somehow
[04:27] <SonikkuAmerica> aliendude5300: Or try using EasyBCD
[04:28] <aliendude5300> hmm... that would probably involve reinstalling Windows 8 to bring back it's bootloader. Such a hassle for something that has traditionally, in the past worked just fine -- Dual booting by installing Windows and then Ubuntu, and using GRUB to choose what to boot
[04:29] <aliendude5300> If I didn't need to get to Windows, I would just wait for os-prober to be patched and run update-grub :/
[04:29] <zgudino> @renzom no way you can boot to recovery?
[04:30] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: In case you're interested I finally figured it out, but it sucked way bad.  I posted the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-suspected-grub-kernel-config-file-messed-up
[04:31] <renzom> @zgudino right now i booted to the previous kernel and works just fine, tried several times to boot in safe mode and everytime it freezes
[04:31] <cfhowlett> renzom, bad kernels do happen to good people ...
[04:32] <aliendude5300> renzom, did you do an upgrade to 13.04 or a clean install? doing a clean install might help
[04:32] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Oh, that was good.
[04:33] <renzom> @aliendude5300 it's an upgrade, i'll try a live version next to see what happens
[04:34] <Biomechd> hulloo?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Biomechd, we see you
[04:34] <renzom> @cfhowlett nice poetry :)
[04:34] <aliendude5300> hmm.. maybe some config files or other settings are left over from the old install that are incompatible or something
[04:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Maybe run a few things in recovery mode
[04:35] <Biomechd> cfhowlett: thou hast sighted me. 'tis unacceptable. lol
[04:36] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader#Windows_Vista_or_7_or_8
[04:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Biomechd: I wist not that thou wert in the channel... (wist = know)
[04:36] <aliendude5300> auscompgeek: "Note: these methods will work on Legacy firmwares (not UEFI)"
[04:36] <SonikkuAmerica> *knew
[04:37] <Biomechd> anyway, i'm still having problems installing my printer. i tried editing a line in an i386 file, and it gave me this. http://www.pasteall.org/41756
[04:37] <zgudino> there are several reports about kernel panic after upgrade. it seems you are not the only one @renzom
[04:37] <aliendude5300> I have a UEFI system, unfortunately
[04:37] <NewbHelpmeh> As for the dual boot issue, is the solution here a viable one? Would it work for me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686335
[04:37] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: try the section before that
[04:38] <aliendude5300> The problem with that is by "fixing" the MBR using a Windows install disc, I would lose access to Ubuntu. It would boot up straight into Windows
[04:39] <renzom> @zgudino i found a lot of dell notebooks among those who reported, mine is a dell too, might be a pattern?
[04:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Right. Boot Repair from an Ubuntu live image would fix this.
[04:39] <Biomechd> aliendude5300: there's a program you can install from your ubuntu livecd.
[04:39] <SonikkuAmerica> aliendude5300: Look at my last say in the channel...
[04:39] <zgudino> wow...
[04:40] <SonikkuAmerica> I think I overcooked my ramen noodles.
[04:40] <aliendude5300> Biomechd: I'm in Ubuntu right now, and it's working flawlessly. Boot repair only fixes the dual boot issue with non-UEFI (legacy) systems at the moment, and running the repair tool provided by microsoft would break my ability to boot into Ubuntu. I'm a bit screwed here :(
[04:41] <Biomechd> SonikkuAmerica: you make me want ramen noodles now
[04:41] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Master_Boot_Record_and_Boot_Manager might help as well
[04:42] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: hopefully EasyBCD will work on UEFI Windows 8 bootloaders
[04:42]  * SonikkuAmerica tosses Biomechd a package. "Here. Boil a pint of water, add ramen, cook for 3 minutes, stir in seasoning."
[04:42]  * SonikkuAmerica !ot's himself
[04:44] <Biomechd> SonikkuAmerica: got any ideas about this? http://www.pasteall.org/41756
[04:45] <aleks_> hello all! i need help with my wireless network that is disconnecting everytime
[04:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Biomechd: [ sudo apt-get -f install ] (with no packages)
[04:50] <syed_> A Problem while installing a wifi driver
[04:51] <syed_> i am new to ubuntu(linux) enviroment
[04:51] <syed_> Did dual boot on my laptop
[04:51] <syed_> however I am unable to install a wifi driver on ubuntu
[04:51] <aliendude5300> what's the best way to install Java in Ubuntu? There seems to be a PPA available, but I want to keep my installation as clean as possible
[04:51] <syed_> can anyone help ,e
[04:52] <syed_> ?
[04:52] <syed_> How to install Wifi driver on ubuntu?
[04:52] <aliendude5300> syed_ run lspci
[04:53] <syed_> @ali
[04:53] <aliendude5300> then post the output in a pastebin
[04:53] <syed_> already did that
[04:53] <syed_> I have  acopy of it
[04:53] <aliendude5300> what is the make and model of your wireless card?
[04:54] <syed_> bcm4312
[04:54] <syed_> 14e4:4315 (rev 01)
[04:55] <cfhowlett> syed_, easiest way is to plug in a hardwire ethernet, run restricted drivers
[04:55] <syed_> broadcom Corporation BXM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[04:56] <cfhowlett> syed_, if you don't have that, you can install the linux STA driver from broadcom ...
[04:57] <aliendude5300> syed_ plug your system into ethernet and install the b43 driver. This page should help you:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:57] <syed_> I tired
[04:57] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: do you want Oracle Java or OpenJDK?
[04:57] <syed_> I cant plugit in
[04:57] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: I believe you can install OpenJDK 6 by installing default-jre (or default-jre-headless)
[04:57] <syed_> as I do not have any ethernet in my place
[04:58] <syed_> Att doesnt provide that
[04:58] <przemek_> hello i have problem with my raid controller everything looks very slow when i make time dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output.img bs=8k
[04:58] <przemek_> count=256k , sometimes i have  0m3.134s (so this is good ) but when i put this command once again i have real 0m49.591s (very slow)  server is not in production , i have no process in this server
[04:58] <syed_> isnt there a better way?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> syed_, do you have a USB or CD of ubuntu?
[04:58] <syed_> no. I downloaded that.
[04:59] <syed_> iso file.
[05:00] <aliendude5300>  auscompgeek I want Oracle Java (the newest, most secure version possible)
[05:00] <cfhowlett> syed_, good.  what version?
[05:01] <syed_> Its 12.04.2
[05:01] <aliendude5300> you could download the packages you need, put them on a flash drive, and then install them in Ubuntu
[05:01] <syed_> The stable version
[05:02] <aliendude5300> also, newer versions of ubuntu have better hardware support. 13.04 might support your wireless out of the box
[05:02] <spydon> The terminal on ubuntu 13.04 insists on opening bash instead of zsh even though zsh is in chsh, is there any solution for this?
[05:02] <syed_> LTS
[05:02] <cfhowlett> syed_, alright.  make a boot usb and use the "STA no internet access" of this tutorial.  I use this all the time.  3 minutes in the terminal and wifi enabled ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:02] <otend> say that my session doesn't take input properly; that is to say, alt-tab doesn't work, hotkeys don't work, input to all programs is broken, ctrl+alt+F* works
[05:02] <otend> what could I do to regain control and return to the desktop?
[05:03] <syed_> I AM NOOB. HOW
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !usb|syed_,
[05:03] <Biomechd> rapid cranial deterioration?
[05:03] <otend> any reliable things to break from that input refusal?
[05:03] <syed_> You mean I should install it again?
[05:03] <syed_> is that what ur saying?
[05:03] <otend> (also worth noting: the mouse pointer does work, but clicking does not)
[05:04] <relipse>  i'm using putty connecting to a debian server but i'm getting whacko characters like: main.cpp:75: error: âdeckâ was not declared in this scope
[05:04] <cfhowlett> syed_, no.  read the link.
[05:04] <ipotato> I have an installation/upgrade problem going from 12.10 to 13.04. Graphics bug. Screen either reboots to random pixels or repeated patterns.
[05:04] <syed_> ok
[05:05] <Ed|Laptop> has anyone in here installed freenx server on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[05:05] <ipotato> I cannot even boot from a 13.04 usb drive, as the the screen is not useable
[05:06] <spydon> otend: maybe you can restart unity from TTY then?
[05:07] <ipotato> it's an intel ivy bridge chipset
[05:07] <otend> would that involve all programs restarting or just the wm and the like restarting?
[05:08] <otend> and what would be the command to restart?
[05:08] <spydon> otend: it is possible to restart unity and not close the programs, I don't remember how though... I think for example "sudo service gdm restart" will close your programs
[05:09] <spydon> otend: I can try first if you have important work that you might need to save?
[05:09] <otend> don't have much open
[05:11] <otend> oh, unity --replace seems to be it
[05:11] <otend> so close, and yet so far
[05:13] <otend> evidently, that was not the solution
[05:14] <spydon> otend: I think you have to set the screen not to be the TTY if you want to run unity --replace from there
[05:14] <otend> I just ran it from the screen itself
[05:14] <spydon> otend: which one was that?
[05:14] <otend> it sort of broke everything
[05:14] <otend> unity --replace
[05:14] <Biomechd> so i can't seem to access the printer settings in libreoffice after getting my laptop to acknowledge my printer while booted in ubuntu.
[05:15] <spydon> otend: did you try the gdm restart?
[05:15] <otend> i'll be trying it on the next crash
[05:15] <otend> and then looking again, then trying the next option
[05:15] <WormFood> how do I stop the gui? I need to stop x11 to install a program, and I can't figure out which one it is in /etc/init.d/
[05:17] <spydon> WormFood: maybe sudo service gdm stop?
[05:19] <turova> SonikkuAmerica and cfhowlett… I did an md5 check and it seems the torrent downloaded with an error.  I redownloaded and booting with nomodeset seems to work now
[05:19] <turova> thanks
[05:20] <cfhowlett> turova, no problem.  best of luck.  By the way, scrambled ISO's are common on direct download.  consider using the torrents
[05:21] <zgudino> oh great! upgrade is done and boot up w/o problems :D
[05:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Apparently the live image upgrade I did from 12.10 > 13.04 fixed my problems from before... but now I can't graphically log in (lightdm loop).
[05:21] <nugroho> YMH297433
[05:21] <nugroho> WHA800477
[05:21] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <WormFood> spydon, nope, didn't work
[05:22] <spydon> WormFood: ah, maybe sudo service lightdm stop? I'm just guessing...
[05:23] <WormFood> where is a list of what services there are?
[05:23] <ipotato> Is there a way to switch to the terminal when I have graphics issues that make the screen unusable?
[05:24] <WormFood> very good spydon, that did the trick. Thanks a lot.
[05:24] <spydon> WormFood: glad to help
[05:24] <WormFood> I'm a debian user, and I don't know The Ubuntu Way (tm), so I'm looking to do things the way I'm used to
[05:25] <Aww> ipotato, ctrl+alt+f2
[05:25] <spydon> WormFood: Yeah, some stuff doesn't really make sense
[05:26] <Aww> ipotato, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the graphical stuff
[05:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Never mind, solved it. 'Night!
[05:26] <lindol> : )
[05:26] <lorddune> Hello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[05:27] <otend> restarting gdm didn't work
[05:27] <lindol> sorry, i can't resolve your problem,
[05:27] <lindol> i m newbieee ;
[05:27] <lorddune> i discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.
[05:27] <otend> this game hates me for playing it, and takes my system down with it, I suppose
[05:28] <dfrey> I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with my pulseaudio setup, but something seems to keep spawning pulseaudio as soon as I kill it.  How can I stop that?
[05:28] <otend> perhaps changing DE would be useful
[05:28] <lorddune> does anyone know anything about Tiger here? Can I kill this process permanently?
[05:33] <Ari-Yang> hey, I have a question, what do the top 2 settings (send flush and send dump of composite) do? here's a screen shot http://gyazo.com/13559c62f24a52f59ba2586939162cec
[05:34] <lorddune> anyone here know how to shut of a kernal process?
[05:34] <Ari-Yang> (on ubuntu 12.10 and this is enlightenment DE)
[05:34] <nugroho> JPL749250
[05:34] <nugroho> APB800779
[05:35] <Campfire> whats the list channals command
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> /list
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> afaik
[05:35] <Campfire> ty
[05:35] <lorddune> Tiger security and audit process included in the Ubuntu kernel is making my machine run hot and makes the HD run non-stop . it runs deb_checkmd5sum all the time >>> /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[05:36] <lorddune> can anyone explain why this is happening and suggest a possible solution?
[05:36] <iDrofox> hello, if i download ubuntu 13,04 iso, can i use it to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 without reinstalling all programs ?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> iDrofox, ?  clean install will give you ... a clean, default installation.
[05:39] <iDrofox> cfhowlett: i don't want clean install all i want to know if i can upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 using cd
[05:40] <spydon> iDrofox: "Offline upgrade options via alternate CDs are no longer offered for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server. "
[05:40] <iDrofox> spydon: so it's means i have to do a clean install ?
[05:41] <spydon> iDrofox: you could backup you home-directory and then replace it after the fresh install. You will loose all you applications though.
[05:41] <iDrofox> spydon: ok thanks
[05:43] <frond> trying to figure out how guake configures where it draws on the screen... in 13.04 mine is off-kilter at the top and is too wide for my display...
[05:43] <Campfire> whats the name of that off topic ubuntu
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !ot
[05:43] <Campfire> ty
[05:44] <frond> sorry and thank you
[05:45] <cfhowlett> frond, ?  the offtopic was for Campfire per his request
[05:46] <cfhowlett> frond, I THINK quake has preferences settings controlling display
[05:46] <kingjag> Hey all I need some help i am trying to setup a pptp connection on my server so that i can connect through my server and have ALL traffic route through my dedicated server so that it looks like i am browsing the web right from my server i have pptpd installed and i can connect but i cant browse the web via that connection to my server
[05:46] <DanaG> Say, why is it that I can't log into my serial console until GDM or lightdm starts?  This is Ubuntu 13.04, but the same was true of 12.10.  If I enter my username, then press any letter, it immediately rejects the password I didn't even get a chance to try to enter!
[05:47] <DanaG> I'm guessing plymouth is trampling all over /dev/ttyS4.
[05:48] <DanaG> Not even logging into the local console and killing both getty and plymouthd, does it start working.
[05:49] <lorddune> Hello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[05:49] <lorddune> i discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.
[05:49] <DanaG> I don't know offhand what "Tiger" is.
[05:50] <lorddune> it is a process included in the Ubuntu OS, can someone please glean some information on me
[05:51] <cfhowlett> lorddune, this looks better suited for #ubuntu-server
[05:51] <WormFood> I thought "Tiger" was a brand of beer
[05:51] <lorddune> cfhowlett: why is that?
[05:52] <lorddune> no, Tiger is an auditing / security check process within Linux kernel
[05:52] <DanaG> Silly thing: I edited the gdm css file to remove that hideous noise texture (which made me think something was wrong with my monitor or video drivers!)...
[05:52] <DanaG> ... and now gdm instead draws nothing.  So, you get a hall-of-mirrors effect with the login box.
[05:52] <DanaG> Rather, it draws no background.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> lorddune, ah, ok.  nvrmind
[05:53] <DanaG> ah, going to reboot... upgraded laptop to 13.04.
[05:53] <lorddune> cfhowlett: am I in the correct place to ask then?
[05:53] <lorddune> I've been trying to fix this for months now
[05:53] <guest1> hello there.
[05:54] <guest1> is there anyone can help?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> lorddune, couldn't hurt to ask in #ubuntu-server as they seem to have a whole lot of sysadmins and linux gurus ...
[05:54] <cfhowlett> guest1, ask ...
[05:54] <lorddune> ok, i will wander over there
[05:54] <guest1> how to play .trp files in centos
[05:54] <cfhowlett> guest1, ask in #centos ... this is ubuntu
[05:54] <guest1> i installed vlc. but failed to play.
[05:55] <guest1> i know but same thing i think.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> guest1, centos is not supported here.  sorry
[05:56] <guest1> ok thanks.
[05:57] <Guest22163> hi, when i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 the installer doesn't show me the parition on my /dev/sda
[05:57] <Guest22163> is it normal? :|
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Guest22163, more details needed ... hardware?
[05:57] <Guest22163> hdd is seagate...
[05:58] <Guest22163> put in SATA3 on mainboard
[05:58] <kingjag> Hey all I need some help i am trying to setup a pptp connection on my server so that i can connect through my server and have ALL traffic route through my dedicated server so that it looks like i am browsing the web right from my server i have pptpd installed and i can connect but i cant browse the web via that connection to my server
[05:58] <cfhowlett> kingjag, also ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:58] <usr13> kingjag: route
[05:59] <lorddune> cfhowlett: do you know the irc channel for linux kernel?
[05:59] <Guest22163> i have windows 7 pro installed already.
[05:59] <kingjag> my version of ubuntu is not server i dont think
[05:59] <Guest22163> and wanted to install it next to win7
[05:59] <cfhowlett> lorddune, so i don't not
[05:59] <kingjag> how do i check what version of ubuntu i am running
[05:59] <Guest22163> cfhowlett: what kind of details do you need to help me?
[05:59] <cfhowlett> kingjag, yes, but your query is server directed?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest22163,
[06:00] <cfhowlett> kingjag, lsb_release -a   in  a terminal
[06:00] <usr13> kingjag: host av.com  #Any luck?
[06:00] <kingjag> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[06:00] <kingjag> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[06:00] <kingjag> Release:        12.04
[06:00] <kingjag> Codename:       precise
[06:01] <dfrey> I'm trying to debug an audio problem.  I do aplay -L and there are a number of devices listed.  One such example is "hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3".  Now when I do "cat /dev/urandom | aplay -D hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3", I get the error: "aplay: main:682: audio open error: No such device".  This seems odd to me because aplay itself just gave me the exact device name.  Any idea what is going wrong?
[06:01] <usr13> !paste |kingjag
[06:01] <spydon> cfhowlett: not necessarily, I think what he has problems with is routing the web traffic through his server. The server is probably set up right and he needs direction for how to do it on the desktop? Right kingjag?
[06:01] <lorddune> #kernelnewbies
[06:03] <betrayd> dfrey  for the command use the same format for devices e.g. /dev/urandom,
[06:04] <betrayd> er maybe use tab completion there ?
[06:06] <dfrey> betrayd: I'm pretty sure you are supposed to be able to use the devices listed by aplay -L
[06:07] <sonofzeus> Hi there
[06:07] <sonofzeus> Do you guys know of a server IRC channel?
[06:07] <betrayd> dfrey agreed, but still follow basic syntax rules...
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !server|sonofzeus,
[06:08] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[06:08] <iceroot> sonofzeus: #ubuntu-server
[06:08] <sonofzeus> #ubuntu-server
[06:08] <iceroot> sonofzeus: /join #ubuntu-server
[06:09] <Guest22163> OK. I have a problem with installing Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. My processor is Celeron G550. After chooing a language there is a window with 'Installation type' title. When i'm trying to click Install Now there is an error "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the paritioning menu". There are no partitions visible in that window. When i'm trying to click 'Change' installer crash. when i'm clicking + there is a 'Sorry, Ubunutu 13 has experie
[06:09] <sonofzeus> Yeah thanks
[06:09] <dfrey> betrayd: I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.  What is wrong with the syntax of the command I pasted?
[06:10] <betrayd> dfrey maybe an escape is missing before the colon try \: sometimes single quotes work tht's why tab completion is preferred
[06:15] <aneks> I'm guessing the bug where the lightdm background changes when you change the wallpaper hasn't been fixed in 13.04?
[06:15] <aneks> or doesn't change even*
[06:16] <juniour> Hi in my system ubuntu 12.04LTS is installed but now 13.04 is released, can i go for update or i still use 12.04 ???
[06:17] <iceroot> aneks: look at launchpad on that bug
[06:17] <iceroot> juniour: why you want to update?
[06:17] <iceroot> juniour: of course you can still use 12.04 until 2017
[06:17] <betrayd> juniour: if graphics sound and wifi work, why bother
[06:17] <juniour> iceroot just for latest version, i know 12.04 is Lts(long term support)
[06:18] <iceroot> juniour: i dont see a reason for an upgrade when everything is working fine
[06:18] <iceroot> juniour: never touch a running system
[06:19] <juniour> iceroot yep everything is running fine,graphics wifi,bluetoothe etc
[06:19] <iceroot> juniour: then i would still use 12.04 (btw i am still using 12.04 on my main machine because its running fine)
[06:20] <juniour> iceroot humm....
[06:20] <betrayd> juniour: you can still come to irc us...
[06:21] <aneks> iceroot, the bugs on launchpad are related to the beta versions, it doesn't tell me if the issue has been resolved in the stable version (which obviously didn't happen)
[06:21] <juniour> betrayd wt???
[06:21] <betrayd> you can visit without having problems
[06:21] <betrayd> =)
[06:23] <Twenty-three> hello, my upgrade to 13.04 was aborted towards the end (~60% of the progress bar) and i received a couple of error messages, after rebooting almost everything was working "normal" but i'm concerned about the abprted upgrade, is there a way to verify whether there is anything to be fixed?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Twenty-three, don't upgrade.  clean install.  get the iso via torrents.
[06:26] <Twenty-three> cfhowlett, the upgrade seems to have succeeded as it displays 13.04 and i see some new UI features, i just wonder if there is a way to verify things are ok
[06:26] <Biomechd> so i'm trying to install a new font quick, but it's not showing up in libreoffice. anyone got a fairly quick fix?
[06:27] <nic013> need help with empathy!!
[06:29] <juniour> twenty-three make backup and clean install again :)
[06:29] <nic013> guys, my facebook friends doesnt appear in the contact list in my empathy, i already tried re-installing
[06:30] <Twenty-three> juniour, is there a way to verify whether i have broken packages?
[06:30] <nic013> can anyone help me?
[06:31] <rocketnine> I wrote a tutorial that applies to ubuntu, where can I submit it other than reddit?
[06:31] <Twenty-three> juniour: the OS is behaving well so far, so i am not as keen on trying something that extreme, i only wish to know if i can verify whether i have a problem at all
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Twenty-three, try this: apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Twenty-three, that will put all 13.04 packages into your system
[06:32] <iceroot> Twenty-three: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc
[06:33] <Twenty-three> noted!, i'll go and try this right now, brb
[06:33] <iceroot> Twenty-three: if there are no packages listed, everything is fine and no packages are broken after the upgrade
[06:33] <Twenty-three> thanks iceroot & cfhowlett
[06:34] <cfhowlett> iceroot, nice one.  so an empty list means all packages present and accounted for?
[06:34] <iceroot> cfhowlett: no outpout means everything is fine :)
[06:35]  * cfhowlett Eric Cartman voice: Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!
[06:38] <Guest17248> join /#c
[06:38] <Guest17248> how to switch to channle in irssi
[06:39] <iceroot> Guest17248: /join ##c
[06:39] <DanaG> Another problem I'm having: the gnome-documents tool does not start!
[06:39] <DanaG>       JS LOG: Unable to connect to the tracker database: TypeError: Tracker.SparqlConnection is undefined
[06:39] <Guest17248> iceroot: i ean to say that i have joined 2 channel how to switch between them
[06:40] <iceroot> Guest17248: alt + channel-number   or alt + a to switch to the channel with the latest message, see also #irssi for helping with that client
[06:40] <TakeItEZ> irssi.org/documentation
[06:40] <Guest17248> iceroot: Thanks
[06:40] <Yoshie> ubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[06:45] <corrupt-upgrade-> all my data got wiped on upgrade
[06:46] <cfhowlett> corrupt-upgrade-, you need a dedicated /home to prevent that
[06:46] <SomeRandomDude> Hey guys, there's a bit of a typo on the Ubuntu downloads page, for BitTorrent
[06:46] <SomeRandomDude> You will need to install a-bitTorrent client on your computer in order to enable this download method.
[06:46] <corrupt-upgrade-> cfhowlett, a known bug in the upgrade is ALL YOUR DATA GETS WIPED?
[06:47] <corrupt-upgrade-> what kind of OS upgrade feature is that?
[06:47] <Yoshie> ubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[06:47] <SomeRandomDude> 'a-bitTorrent' should read 'a BitTorrent'
[06:47] <nirjhor> hello
[06:47] <Yoshie> hello
[06:47] <nirjhor> I've installed hotot, in raring
[06:47] <dn4> is there a way to boot up off a usb drive for ubuntu; and then have the usb have the entire OS; and just save stuff to that usb?
[06:47] <corrupt-upgrade-> my /home was encrypted with ecryptfs
[06:47] <corrupt-upgrade-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607277/
[06:47] <nirjhor> but it is not getting me to sign in
[06:48] <iceroot> !usb | dn4
[06:48] <nirjhor> the screen is just blank
[06:48] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: Yes! That's a VERY common feature actually, and it's called a persistience file.
[06:48] <iceroot> dn4: just install the system to the usb stick instead of the hdd
[06:48] <cfhowlett> corrupt-upgrade-, let's not jump to conclusions quite yet.  I stated that a dedicated /home prevents data wipes on installation.  Should also work the the same way during upgrade
[06:48] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: The USB startup disk creator will automatically add one if you use it to prep a USB stick 2GB or larger
[06:48] <nirjhor> there is one error ** (hotot:10999): WARNING **: Binding '<Alt>C' failed!
[06:48] <dn4> is the Persistent more secure; than say a full install on the usb ?
[06:48] <corrupt-upgrade-> MY DATA GOT WIPED ON UPGRADE -- END OF STORY. Be warned 13.04 users.
[06:49] <iceroot> corrupt-upgrade-: way to much text on that paste
[06:49] <iceroot> corrupt-upgrade-: you cant mount the luks partition anymore?
[06:49] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: A full install on the USB is a stupid idea in my opinion. I don't think it's more or less secure, but it's the right way to do it. The link iceroot triggered will have all the information you need, but I think you'll find that if you prep a drive with the USB Startup Disk Creator (a part of every Ubuntu install) should do what you need.
[06:50] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: To clarify, the persistience file is the right way.
[06:50] <Yoshie> test, can anyone see my txt
[06:50] <SomeRandomDude> Yoshie: Yes, we can see it just fine.
[06:50] <Yoshie> thank you
[06:50] <dn4> ok cool
[06:51] <corrupt-upgrade-> iceroot, dont think so since the kernel panic and file system became unreadable 50% into upgrade
[06:51] <corrupt-upgrade-> iceroot, how could i check?
[06:51] <dn4> since I don't have ubuntu my install method has being using dd
[06:51] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[06:51] <DanaG> gaah, stupid gnome-documents thingy.  DOES NOT FREAKING START.
[06:51] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: What exactly do you mean you don't have it?
[06:51] <yellabs-r2> does any one know where UDS in may 2013 is taking place ?
[06:51] <corrupt-upgrade-> iceroot, i know my disks are fine since windows 8 partion on same raid0 array still works great
[06:51] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, greetings
[06:51] <dn4> SomeRandomDude, I don't have that usb-creator program
[06:51] <SomeRandomDude> yellabs-r2: If I recall correctly, they aren't doing UDS anymore.
[06:52] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: Hm... PenDriveLinux MIGHT have that feature as well, but I don't know...
[06:52] <yellabs-r2> are you sure ?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, virtual UDS unless announced otherwise
[06:52] <yellabs-r2> ah , really virtual , how cool is that
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> thats why i cant find a place .. on the website
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> LOL
[06:53] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> yes i found the website ,thanks , but on location, becuase of virtual attend ..
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> :P
[06:53] <KommaH> Hey everyone, I installed gdm manually on my ubuntu without recommended packages. It seems as though I'm missing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. Without this config file, how am I supposed to adjust autologins?
[06:55] <yellabs-r2> thanks for the info,
[06:55] <yellabs-r2> have a nice day !
[06:55] <DanaG> Say, how do I remove the default lightdm wallpaper?  I want the default to be lack of wallpaper entirely.
[06:56] <dengine> Привет
[06:56] <DanaG> So I get black fading to my user wallpaper, not black fading to lightdm wallpaper then to user wallpaper.
[06:56] <bazhang> !ru | dengine
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !ru|dengine,
[06:56] <cfhowlett> bazhang, just a little slow today?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> :P
[06:56] <bazhang> cfhowlett, I was first, odd that the bot would do it twice though
[06:57] <guest-aGTYEf> Ubuntu 13.04 AMD 64:  I upgraded to 13.04 but my login is faulty but the guest login is OK. Is there any way of fixing my login ?
[06:57] <bazhang> guest-aGTYEf, what do you mean by faulty
[06:57] <cfhowlett> guest-aGTYEf, "faulty"???
[06:59] <guest-aGTYEf> bazhang: It loging to the Desktop with my work files but nothing else. So I cannot access my mail, pictures, music etc.
[06:59] <faizul> hi
[06:59] <ppjdee> sup all
[07:00] <Biomechd> okay, so both of my browsers are messing up and outputting boxes.
[07:00] <Biomechd> i tried running chromium and got an error and a segfault. i can paste it here if you want since i can't get to pasteall or anything.
[07:01] <Magbed> hi
[07:02] <ppjdee> hey
[07:02] <Campfire> anyone know where ubuntu server  support might be
[07:02] <SomeRandomDude> I have a question regarding the downloads: Why is Canonical doing their level best to hide the Torrent downloads? Wouldn't that mean less load on the main download servers? I realize not everyone can figure out a Torrent client, but why not distribute a 50KB executable that torrents the file, a la Blizzard Downloader?
[07:02] <guest-aGTYEf> cfhowlett: the side bar does not show so I cannot access anything.
[07:02] <Magbed> agree random... took me a while to find the damm torrent
[07:03] <SomeRandomDude> Campfire: Going out on a limb here and assuming there isn't a special server support channel (waiting for someone to jump out and correct me) but maybe if you posed your question here, I could help you. I've been fiddling with Server for a long time.
[07:03] <Campfire> :)
[07:04] <Campfire> mind if we talk about torrents
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Campfire, #ubuntu-server
[07:04] <SomeRandomDude> Not at all
[07:04] <loof> I am trying to install the edubuntu flavor of ubuntu 13.04 off a USB stick. when I select Install... it starts up X and as far as I can tell is acting like a live CD - not the install I'm used to from prior versions
[07:04] <ppjdee> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339 ubuntu forums server support
[07:05] <Magbed> Just installed 13.04 and "Additional drivers" doesnt show anything for my nvidia card (680GTX) happened to someone else or someone knows a fix?
[07:05] <loof> I'm not sure if something is wrong... or if I'm missing something obvious...
[07:05] <loof> This is an older system, so without a bit of tuning X is a slideshow :P
[07:06] <ppjdee> anyways to suppress the joining/leaving messages? its killing me brain
[07:06] <juniour> Magbed see on additional drivers
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ppjdee, right click on the #channel then settings
[07:06] <Campfire> what are trackers just asking i read you can get faster downloads if you copy and paste the code in
[07:06] <Campfire> for torrents
[07:07] <Magbed> juniour thats the problem... its completely empty nothing to select there
[07:07] <Magbed> didnt happen on 12.04
[07:07] <juniour> Magbed its compatiblity issue i think
[07:07] <Campfire> for ubuntu torrents
[07:07] <juniour> Magbed y u upgraded??
[07:08] <ppjdee> cfhowlett where do i click?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> ppjdee, right click on #ubuntu tab
[07:08] <Campfire> somerandomdude  i sended it
[07:08] <Magbed> y not? =) shouldnt be fair to suppose that it should keep working
[07:09] <Magbed> if i didnt upgrade ill still be using 10.10
[07:09] <Campfire> i mean srd just a question up in text
[07:09] <SomeRandomDude> Campfire: Trackers have more or less been outmoded. A tracker is a server you hit up for a list of other people in the torrent swarm; you then hit up each person in that list and begin the torrenting process.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !paste
[07:10] <juniour> Magbed make a backup and clean install buddy :)
[07:10] <SomeRandomDude> Campfire: It's since been replaced by a system called DHT, which means that everyone is the tracker, and no central infrastructure is necessary. A tracker is still nice, though, because it can save some time by just handing you a list of people to prime your DHT with
[07:10] <Magbed> thats what i did
[07:10] <Magbed> didnt upgrade directly
[07:10] <Magbed> thats always a mess
[07:10] <ppjdee> ah k found it lol thanks cfhowlett
[07:10] <juniour> hummm..........
[07:11] <Campfire> oh ty srd
[07:11] <juniour> magbed your wifi,bluetooth
[07:11] <juniour> are working
[07:11] <juniour> ??
[07:11] <SomeRandomDude> Campfire: I believe the torrent files available from Ubuntu.com contain tracker data, but the magnet URIs (What I believe you mean when you say copy and paste the code in) will suffice too, and will use the aforementioned DHT system
[07:11] <Magbed> im using ethernet and no bluetooth
[07:12] <Magbed> everything else is working fine
[07:12] <Magbed> atm its using Nouveau drivers...
[07:12] <Magbed> Gallium 0.4 on NVE4
[07:12] <Campfire> srd ok dht system whats that do
[07:13] <bazhang> !ot | Campfire
[07:13] <juniour> magbed can you see list of wifi network
[07:13] <juniour> ???
[07:13] <Campfire> ok no probs
[07:13] <exiledMYB> Hey guys for some reason when I type in ifconfig, I am only gettin the "lo" interface
[07:13] <Campfire> is ubottu a bot
[07:13] <exiledMYB> That is 127.0.0.1, and nothing else
[07:14] <Magbed> motherboard doesnt have wifi its an asrock z77 extreme4 im on a desktop
[07:14] <juniour> ohhhh
[07:14] <bazhang> exiledMYB, what does lspci and/or lsusb show as the nic
[07:14] <exiledMYB> I should also mention that I'm running a VM on Virtualbox, but I figured this is an Ubuntu issue
[07:14] <juniour> magbed os its seem everything working fine man :)
[07:14] <Magbed> must be a bug... already reported
[07:14] <bazhang> exiledMYB, ubuntu  is IN the vm?
[07:14] <Magbed> guess ill have to wait
[07:15] <exiledMYB> bazhang, ubuntu is THE vm
[07:15] <Jordan_U> exiledMYB: Have you added a network interface to the VM?
[07:15] <bazhang> exiledMYB, whats the host
[07:15] <exiledMYB> The host is my win 7 desktop
[07:15] <Jordan_U> exiledMYB: As in, configured VirtualBox to give this virtual machine a virtual ethernet card.
[07:16] <exiledMYB> yes, it is connected via Bridged
[07:16] <bazhang> exiledMYB, the vm wont use the hardware directly
[07:16] <juniour> exiledMYB in vm setting in network select bridge interface and reboot
[07:16] <exiledMYB> I'll try the reboot and see what happens, but I've been doing that all night :(
[07:17] <juniour> exiledMYB  dont reboot directly
[07:17] <juniour> exiledMYB can you go in vm setting
[07:17] <Jordan_U> exiledMYB: Can you try booting another OS in the same virtual machine, possibly a LiveCD of some sort? (preferably literally the same, not just another virtualbox VM)
[07:17] <helmut_> hi
[07:17] <juniour> exiledMYB you will see network, in network select bridged network then reboot
[07:17] <exiledMYB> Jordan_U: I kinda don't have time for that right now because I don't have any other VM setup
[07:18] <exiledMYB> Currently, my network is set to bridged, and I am going to reboot
[07:18] <Jordan_U> exiledMYB: You can't just pass an iso as the virtual CD and reboot?
[07:18] <juniour> exiledMYB if you follow me your problem will be resolved
[07:18] <SomeRandomDude> exiledMYB: He means he wants you to literally use the exact same VM you're having trouble with
[07:18] <exiledMYB> juniour, I'm trying. I hope it works :)
[07:19] <juniour> exiledMYB yes it will i think
[07:20] <Jordan_U> exiledMYB: I would be very surprised to find that support for VirtualBox's virtual ethernet hardware is anything but completely reliable and automatic, so I highly suspect that something isn't configured properly in VirtualBox.
[07:20] <NickNefarious> Can anyone tell me hoe to set up IRC for Empathy in 13.04?
[07:20] <juniour> exiledMYB you using vm ware or virtualbox???
[07:20] <exiledMYB> Jordan_U, I was thinking the same thing. I'm using virtualbox
[07:21] <Jordan_U> NickNefarious: Empathy isn't a very good IRC client (most clients not dedicated specifically to IRC aren't).
[07:21] <exiledMYB> I've been having this problem for a while. Its just not consistent, idk whats wrong
[07:21] <juniour> exiledMYB you rebooted
[07:21] <juniour> A??/
[07:21] <NickNefarious> Jordan I just use IRC for Ubuntu support occasionally...
[07:21] <exiledMYB> juniour, yes not im about to log in
[07:22] <juniour> NickNefarious try pidgin
[07:22] <exiledMYB> juniour, same problem my friend
[07:22] <exiledMYB> only "lo" interface is up
[07:22] <NickNefarious> juniour Empathy is pre-installed... so was hoping I could just use it....
[07:23] <Jordan_U> juniour: NickNefarious: Pidgin is also a poor IRC client, I highly recommend Xchat, irssi, or some other client dedicated specifically to IRC.
[07:23] <juniour> exiledMYB you runnig the os with iso or preinstalled image
[07:23] <juniour> ???
[07:23] <NickNefarious> juniour / Jordan Only problem is when I try to set up an account for IRC it opens the "Online Accounts" and there is nothing for IRC
[07:23] <exiledMYB> juniour, I installed the os from iso, but after that I no longer needed it
[07:24] <juniour> NickNefari yep irssi is good i am currently using it
[07:24] <juniour> exiledMYB can you share some screen shot of virtual box setting of network
[07:25] <juniour> ?
[07:25] <RainbowW> how do i trace the order in which apache is traversing vhost files to service a request? 10.04, apache is working but serving incorrect directories and i can't figure out why
[07:25] <exiledMYB> how would I paste that on irc?
[07:25] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | exiledMYB
[07:25] <juniour> exiledMYB follow ubottu
[07:25] <exiledMYB> k
[07:26] <NickNefarious> I tried installing Skype on Ubuntu 13.04 using Canonical Partner Repo and it doesn't work
[07:27] <exiledMYB> juniour, actually my friend, I'm gonna call it a night for now. Thanks for your help though
[07:28] <ppjdee> you couldnt get skype installed on 13.04?
[07:28] <juniour> exiledMYB no problem you welcome
[07:28] <juniour> :)
[07:28] <NickNefarious> It installed and the Skype logo appears in Dash but when i try to run it it does nothing
[07:29] <ppjdee> hm, i installed skype 4.1 a few hours ago and its working for me
[07:30] <ppjdee> hm, nvm its not working XD
[07:30] <juniour> NickNefari download skype from here http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[07:30] <NickNefarious> How did you install? I installed like this - http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[07:30] <ppjdee> sudo apt-get install skype
[07:31] <ppjdee> just upgraded to 3.9 kernel tho
[07:31] <juniour> NickNefari download the .deb from above site ,then dpkg -i xxxxx.deb
[07:31] <NickNefarious> How can I remove everything that has been installed so far before installing from that source?
[07:32] <juniour> NickNefari apt-get remove package-name
[07:32] <ppjdee> ^
[07:33] <NickNefarious> When I installed Skype it says there is a package no longer needed linux-image-generic and that I should autoremove this
[07:33] <juniour> NickNefari k
[07:34] <iceroot> NickNefarious: you are on 12.04?
[07:34] <juniour> sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:34] <NickNefarious> No new install of 13.04
[07:34] <iceroot> NickNefarious: dont remove that package. lets check first
[07:34] <iceroot> NickNefarious: its a very important package (if no other kernel meta package is installed)
[07:35] <hke> hello. i apt-get installed package a and with it came dependencies b,c and d. how can i find out the name of package a if i only know b?
[07:35] <NickNefarious> Sorry just auto removed... How can I get it back?
[07:35] <iceroot> NickNefarious: dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^ii     please provide that output to pastebin
[07:35] <ppjdee> lol
[07:36] <iceroot> hke: aptitude why packagename
[07:37] <Senor> where are  the grub boot command line parameters saved permanently?
[07:37] <hke> iceroot: thank you.
[07:37] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:37] <iceroot> Senor: /etc/default/grub
[07:37] <ppjdee> sup
[07:37] <Yoshie> ubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[07:38] <Senor> iceroot: is there parameter like : root=...
[07:38] <chaotix> hi...  i just installed ubuntu 13.04, and after installing guake terminal i have discovered a bug, but am not really to sure how i am supposed to word it for the bug report...  the problem is that when not in fullscreen, guake is about 1/2 an inch too low at the top, leaving a half of desktop showing...  this was not the case in any previous versions of ubuntu as i have used guake in all of them...  but i suck at wording things offic
[07:38] <chaotix> ially....  how should i say it
[07:38] <Jordan_U> chaotix: Attach a screenshot to the bug report.
[07:39] <Senor> iceroot:I mean boot command line parameters
[07:39] <Senor> such as root=.... kernel =...
[07:39] <chaotix> Jordan_U, will do
[07:39] <iceroot> Senor: /boot/grub/grub.cfg   that will generated from /etc/default/grub
[07:39] <kingjag> ok all i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS i am trying to VNC into my machine and upon connection i see a msg that says failed to load session "ubuntu" and then a button that just says Logout
[07:39] <juniour> senor for creating u have to type sudo update-grub
[07:40] <ShapeShifter499> so I have a chrooted ubuntu 9.04 on my android system and I installed xfce4, when I start it I get an error   "Could not lookup internet address for Nook-Ubuntu. This will prevent Xfce from operating correctly. It maybe possible to correct the problem by adding Nook-Ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts on your system.",   exactly what do I put in /etc/hosts?  and is that the chrooted hosts file or the one part of android?
[07:40] <NickNefarious> iceroot http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607481/
[07:40] <Senor> iceroot: if I boot from a grub.img file ,what is for that?
[07:40] <juniour> Senor when ever you make changes in /etc/default/grub must do sudo update-grub else no changes will be refelected
[07:41] <iceroot> NickNefarious: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic   you need this package to get kernel updates in the future
[07:42] <Senor> iceroot: if I boot from a grub-rescue.img file , where it get the boot parameters?
[07:42] <iceroot> Senor: dont know
[07:42] <NickNefarious> iceroot Done
[07:42] <srefon> Hi
[07:42] <iceroot> Senor: but it sounds like a normal dd image
[07:42] <RainbowW> how do i trace the order in which apache is traversing vhost files to service a request? 10.04, apache is working but serving incorrect directories and i can't figure out why. is it reading /etc/apache2/sites-enabled in alpha order? or some other order?
[07:42] <NickNefarious> iceroot How can I identify problem with Skype install?
[07:43] <srefon> i have a problem my motherboard broke and i migrated to an other manufacturer board but with same chipset and such but the system wont go into xwindows and on reboot or shutdown commands it hangs?
[07:43] <Senor> iceroot:just a rescue solution for grub bootloader
[07:43] <kingjag> ok all i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS i am trying to VNC into my machine and upon connection i see a msg that says failed to load session "ubuntu" and then a button that just says Logout
[07:44] <Kakadu> Can u point me a conference  to discuss ubuntu 13.04 Qt5 packages?
[07:44] <juniour> NickNefarious skype problem is resolved???
[07:45] <kingjag> i guess no one can help :-(
[07:46] <NickNefarious> juniour No, but what was I to do to resolve it?
[07:46] <juniour> NickNefarious clean install of skype will resolve
[07:46] <juniour> NickNefarious i gave you the link to download the package
[07:47] <NickNefarious> juniour So remove existing install and install again?
[07:47] <juniour> yep
[07:48] <juniour> NickNefarious wt you doing???
[07:50] <NickNefarious> juniour I am in China - the Skype links redirect to a Chinese version called Tom Skype and I don't want to install it from there...
[07:50] <NickNefarious> juniour That is why I was trying to use a repo...
[07:50] <juniour> ohhh
[07:51] <chaotix> Jordan_U, how should i word it in the summary?   "Guake terminal too low"?
[07:51] <juniour> k
[07:51] <NickNefarious> juniour But maybe I'll just have to use VPN and download it on other system
[07:51] <BigFist> hi, I'm trying to change min password length in /etc/pam.d/common-password, I'm adding an option minlen=3 to pam_unix.so module, but it doesn't affect anything. When i go to users config, and enter short password for one user, i still get password too short
[07:52] <NickNefarious> juniour so 'sudo apt-get remove skype' will remove all the packages it installed in the first place?
[07:52] <juniour> NickNefarious yep
[07:52] <Jordan_U> BigFist: What happens if you try to use "passwd" to change the password? (It might be that GNOME's users tool has additional restrictions)
[07:52] <morgan_> how do I fix my desktop handler? I removed nautilus and wanna use nemo instead. right now my desktop is just black :(
[07:53] <BigFist> it changes a password without anything
[07:53] <juniour> NickNefarious your system is 64 bit???
[07:54] <btral> hi
[07:54] <BigFist> Jordan_U: but then on login screen I'm not asked for password for that user
[07:54] <BigFist> (??)
[07:54] <BigFist> thats confusing
[07:54] <NickNefarious> juniour Yep 64bit
[07:54] <BigFist> whom password did i just changed ... ?
[07:54] <btral> i installed clamav. i want to update it's signiture. how can i change mirrors in  /etc/clamav/clamd.conf
[07:54] <btral> ?
[07:54] <btral> is it possible?
[07:55] <juniour> NickNefarious skype 4.1 is not avalibe for ubuntu 13.04
[07:55] <Jordan_U> BigFist: If you just ran "passwd" with no other arguments then it changed the password of the user you ran it as.
[07:55] <juniour> NickNefarious skype 4.0 is available
[07:55] <ppjdee> ^
[07:55] <tingjun> agree with Jordan_U
[07:55] <ppjdee> just updated and rebooted and found that out
[07:56] <NickNefarious> juniour Sure. Where at? Skype website?
[07:56] <juniour> NickNefarious try this command to install skype
[07:56] <kingjag> ok all i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS i am trying to VNC into my machine and upon connection i see a msg that says failed to load session "ubuntu" and then a button that just says Logout
[07:56] <juniour> NickNefarious sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[07:57] <BigFist> Jordan_U: no of course I didn't do anything like that, it would ask me for my password anyway, i ran "passwd children"
[07:57] <BigFist> where children is obviously a user name
[07:57] <juniour> NickNefarious done above command
[07:58] <juniour> NickNefarious now sudo apt-get update
[07:58] <Jordan_U> BigFist: What did you mean by "whom password did i just changed"?
[07:58] <juniour> NickNefarious sudo apt-get install skype && sudo apt-get -f install
[07:58] <ShapeShifter499> Thats odd... placing my nook tablet near my trackpad on my laptop temporarily darkens the screen
[07:58] <ShapeShifter499> on ubuntu 13.04
[07:59] <BigFist> well i received password was changed after calling above command and entering new password
[07:59] <BigFist> so i wanted to try this out, and switched user
[07:59] <BigFist> (to children user)
[07:59] <BigFist> i hoped it will ask me for password
[07:59] <BigFist> but no, it logged me in, like there is no password
[07:59] <NickNefarious> Juniour That is how I installed it this time... without the -f arg
[08:00] <juniour> NickNefarious is that worked???
[08:00] <rkhshm> how to i give normal user the right to mount disk drives?
[08:00] <BigFist> but i received a command password was changed, so i wonder password for who? I have only two users on my machine...
[08:00] <rkhshm> i can only do it as root
[08:00] <BigFist> and mine is still the same
[08:01] <juniour> NickNefarious is skype working????
[08:01] <NickNefarious> Juniour No that was the way I installed it before and it wasn't working. But I didn't use the -f arg. Will that make a difference? It said it installed last time but it just wouldn't start
[08:01] <BigFist> maybe ubuntu doesn't use /etc/pam.d/password-common ??
[08:01] <BigFist> I'm totally confused rigth now
[08:01] <morgan_> how do I fix my desktop handler? I removed nautilus and wanna use nemo instead. right now my desktop is just black :(
[08:01] <juniour> NickNefarious just give a try
[08:01] <juniour> NickNefarious with -f
[08:02] <[deXter]> morgan_, if you installed it correctly, nemo should automatically take over
[08:02] <[deXter]> morgan_, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-install-nemo-file-manager-in.html
[08:02] <[deXter]> morgan_, also http://askubuntu.com/questions/190529/how-to-completely-integrate-nemo-with-ubuntu
[08:03] <[deXter]> finally http://www.fandigital.com/2013/01/set-nemo-default-file-manager-ubuntu.html
[08:04] <morgan_> [deXter], that was the one I followed. my desktop still comes up black D:
[08:05] <flames> hello... anyone can help me about complie Sslsniff in ubuntu 12.10
[08:05] <[deXter]> morgan_, did you reboot afterwards?
[08:05] <flames> i got error : make: *** [SSLConnectionManager.o] Error 1
[08:05] <morgan_> [deXter], yes, many times
[08:05] <NickNefarious> juniour Trying now...
[08:05] <morgan_> [deXter], as far as I can tell nemo is default, but i'm just getting the black desktop
[08:07] <ppjdee> just tried that way juniour, got segmentation fault
[08:07] <cloneG> hello there I am using an ubuntu 12.04 and a NVIDIA Geforce 8800 GT card to use 3d acceleration I just installed bumblebee but it fails to start with the error: no integrated video card found, quitting any ideas?
[08:08] <Ben64> cloneG: why would you install bumblebee?
[08:08] <BigFist> I will ask different password
[08:08] <NickNefarious> juniour That installed - skype (4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2) - and it finished install ok but it just won't launch
[08:08] <BigFist> How can I totaly disable password restrictions in ubuntu
[08:08] <Jordan_U> cloneG: Are you sure that you have an integrated graphics card in addition to your separate dedicated Nvidia card?
[08:08] <cloneG> Ben64 because without it I couldnt even start x
[08:09] <cloneG> Jordan_U: I dont even know what an integrated card is
[08:09] <Ben64> cloneG: but bumblebee is for dual gpu systems, usually laptops. definitely not an 8800GT
[08:10] <morgan_> [deXter], the issue happened after I did: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false
[08:10] <morgan_> [deXter], when I did the next step: gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons true
[08:10] <morgan_> [deXter], it broke
[08:10] <cloneG> Ben64: oh I didnt know, I just read it would help with nvidia driver config and I gave it a try
[08:11] <[deXter]> morgan_, Then just reverse it .. set the first one to true and the next one to false
[08:11] <Ben64> cloneG: you should read stuff more completely. you now need to remove bumblebee and install nvidia the correct way
[08:11] <ppjdee> @cloneG intergrated graphics means its built into the motherboard
[08:11] <cloneG> Ben 64: the point is desktop is running now...though no 3d acceleration
[08:11] <Whiskey> How do i get tcllib to be installed for 1.6
[08:11] <Whiskey> 8.6, it has installed tcl8.6 and tcl8.6-dev but not the lib
[08:11] <morgan_> [deXter], oh that's smart, but, now does that mean nautalus or w/e is back to default and not nemo?
[08:12] <morgan_> [deXter], or does it not really matter for the desktop handler
[08:12] <[deXter]> yeah it doesn't matter
[08:12] <morgan_> ok ty!
[08:12] <morgan_> yep my desktop is back now woot
[08:12] <morgan_> [deXter], many thanks!
[08:12] <[deXter]> np :)
[08:13] <NickNefarious> juniour How/Where can i find a log or see what is going wrong when I try to launch Skype?
[08:15] <BigFist> it looks like its some sort of a bug (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343977)
[08:15] <BigFist> this password len
[08:15] <Biomechd> NickNefarious: run it from the terminal. open a terminal and just input "skype"
[08:16] <Reddy999> Hi
[08:16] <Reddy999> Quick question on Ubuntu 13.04 boottime encryption ?
[08:17] <Reddy999> what impact does it have if I enable both boottime(full disk) and home encryption? is it suggested?
[08:17] <NickNefarious> juniour Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:18] <dechi> Hi, I'm a newbie on Ubuntu, and I try somme command lines. I can't copy a file in the parent file, What can I do
[08:18] <dechi> ?
[08:18] <NickNefarious> juniour Can I fix this problem by uninstalling skype again and then downloading the package directly from the skype website?
[08:18] <away> dechi, are you getting any errors?
[08:18] <ppjdee> NickNefarious im having the same issue
[08:18] <NickNefarious> ppjdee I though you said yours was working?
[08:19] <ppjdee> hours ago
[08:19] <ppjdee> i recently updated my kernel and some other stiff
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[08:19] <ppjdee> stuff*
[08:19] <Reddy999> @Nick.. I did download Skype from http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[08:19] <away> dechi, what is the exact command you are trying to use?
[08:19] <Reddy999> installs, and works without issues
[08:19] <Jordan_U> dechi: What do you mean by "copy a file in the parent file"? What command did you run, what did you expect it to do, and what did it do instead?
[08:19] <Reddy999> on Ubuntu 13.04
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[08:20] <NickNefarious> Reddy999 in 13.04 64 bit?
[08:20] <Reddy999> yes
[08:20] <away> dechi, the whole command
[08:20] <Reddy999> Ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[08:20] <Omen_20> Anyone else get nothing but issues from the upgrade? I can't even launch Startup Disk Creator to use for a fresh install.
[08:20] <NickNefarious> Reddy999 Sweet... then that's what I'l do
[08:20] <ppjdee> NickNefarious what kernel are you using uname -r
[08:20] <PublicAffairs> does anyone know how to print characters before a regex match, all the google results i have tried don't work
[08:21] <m0loch> Can anyone give me any pointers on how to get l2tp/ipsec working in 13.04 - worked fine in 12.10
[08:21] <NickNefarious> ppjdee 3.8.0-19-generic
[08:22] <Reddy999> @Nick.. download .. choose distribution as Ubuntu 12.04
[08:22] <Omen_20> I just get "System program problem detected" for pretty much anything I do.
[08:22] <NickNefarious> ppjdee Didn't yu say yu upgraded to 3.9?
[08:22] <blazemore> Omen_20: As far as I'm aware, that's a normal part of the Ubuntu experience, at least it alwasy has been for me
[08:22] <dechi> Away, this my arborecent :"JdR/L5A/scenario", and I have a file named JdR in th dir scenario. I can't copy it  directly in the directory JdR with the command "cp JdR JdR/"
[08:22] <Reddy999> yes.. however, in that link, U13.04 is not an option yet
[08:23] <dfrey> I seem to have messed up my system pretty badly.  What is the blessed way to install the binary nvidia drivers in Ubuntu these days?  Like do I just install nvidia-current or do I have to install jockey or something else?
[08:23] <Reddy999> so download for U12.04
[08:23] <Reddy999> which works :)
[08:23] <ShalokShalom> moin
[08:23] <blazemore> dfrey: just use the included additional driver tool in Software Sources
[08:23] <ppjdee> NickNefarious yes
[08:23] <ShalokShalom> why is it possible, to write backports for firefox, thunderbird and some other apps and not for all?
[08:24] <dfrey> blazemore: How do I get to "Software Sources"
[08:24] <away> dechi, cp JdR ../../JdR
[08:24] <blazemore> ShalokShalom: It is *possible*, it just requires effort
[08:24] <NickNefarious> Reddy999 Cheers, will do
[08:24] <[deXter]> ShalokShalom, Dependencies
[08:24] <blazemore> dfrey: System Settings -> Software and Updates -> Additional Drivers
[08:24] <ShalokShalom> the API change too?
[08:24] <dechi> amay, ok, it works. Thanks a lot
[08:25] <ShalokShalom> so the libs gets changed?
[08:25] <[deXter]> yeah
[08:25] <punter> I have two applications that could display system tray icons in 12.10 but can't now (I have a fresh 13.04 install) - How do I make these apps have their icons appear? THey are: Pidgin and Smuxi
[08:25] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[08:27] <punter> These apps still have options for displaying icons (and I have enabled them) but something in the OS is preventin them from displaying icons
[08:28] <_zoom_> hello guys
[08:28] <NickNefarious> Thanks Reddy999 juniour iceroot
[08:29] <_zoom_> is it possible to configure pptp client using interfaces configs?
[08:29] <dfrey> blazemore: I don't have "Software and Updates" inside "System Settings".  There are a bunch of other icons under headings "personal", "hardware" and "system", but not the one you mentioned.
[08:29] <ppjdee> guess something is f u on my comp, cant seem to get it running
[08:30] <_zoom_> at the end i need to configure the pptp without network-manager
[08:30] <m0loch> xl2tpd broken?
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> dfrey  in a terminal, what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[08:32] <sqrt7744> Is it possible to add a bookmark to the side panel in the file manager?
[08:32] <blazemore> ShalokShalom: yes
[08:32] <blazemore> sqrt7744: yes
[08:32] <dfrey> MonkeyDust: 13.04, but as mentioned... my system is a bit messed right now
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> sqrt7744  try ctrl-d when you're in a folder
[08:33] <ShalokShalom> sqrt7744: witch filemanager?
[08:33] <sqrt7744> erm, nautilus, ubuntu 13.04
[08:33] <blazemore> sqrt7744: You can just drag it there
[08:33] <sqrt7744> blazemore, I tried that but it doesn't work
[08:33] <sqrt7744> Ctrl-d did it, thanks MonkeyDust
[08:45] <baagii> hi
[08:45] <Blacktray> Hi
[08:46] <baagii> how are you? :P
[08:46] <mac001> hi to everybody
[08:47] <PeterGriffin> Hi all. When I upgrade nvidia drivers, the display settings change to default. I expected to be asked if I want my old settings to be replaced, but it didn't happen. So I have to downgradein order to have my old settings. I really don't want to configure it again. What could I do to restore my old configuration?
[08:47] <zivester> how can i upgrade 12.10 to 13.04? apt-get dist-upgrade isn't giving me anything
[08:48] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | zivester
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> zivester  try do-release-upgrade
[08:49] <zivester> tx
[08:49] <dfrey> I have nvidia-310 installed and the drivers seem to work fine for the main kernel, but I have an older kernel installed as well and it seems that the nvidia driver isn't being installed into that kernel as well.  Is it possible to get it working with the older kernel?  The older kernel is 3.5.0
[08:55] <m0loch> Hey, can anyone tell me how to get xl2tpd/ipsec working again?
[08:55] <m0loch> Or at least to figure out what's wrong with it
[08:58] <MonkeyDust> m0loch  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong
[08:58] <edd_> Hey, sorry to bother you guys but i am really stuck, am a new user to ubuntu and cant get sound from my HDMI cable, ive tried all sorts of crazzy stuff nothing seams to work.....
[08:58] <Moh2335> strange
[08:58] <Moh2335> i do get sound from my hdmi
[08:59] <edd_> I dont :(
[08:59] <Iszak> Has anyone got a guide for converting a hard drive from GPT to MBR via the command line?
[08:59] <edd_> I get picture....
[08:59] <m0loch> I was able to connect from my home computer to a VPS server.  The server was running ubuntu 12.10 - openswan l2tp/ipsec whatever version it had.  Followed some tutorial on the net, and it worked just fine.  Upgraded to 13.04 and now can't connect
[08:59] <edd_> In sound settings only internal speaker is listed lol, so its played from my laptop :S
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  http://johnlewis.ie/converting-to-gpt-in-ubuntu/
[08:59] <Moh2335> edd are you on 13.04?
[09:00] <edd_> Er :P sorta
[09:00] <edd_> I bailed half way through
[09:00] <Iszak> MonkeyDust that's converting to GPT, not MBR.
[09:00] <edd_> couple of errors here an there now i need to redo it by not this week it was trying to remove wine :P my thesis is due wed :P
[09:00] <edd_> Boot ive had this problem since 12.10
[09:00] <edd_> but*
[09:01] <Moh2335> well edd now you say i haven actually tried my hdmi in 13.04 but in 12.10 it worked fine, but in the soundoptions the hdmi option isn listed there anymore....
[09:01] <zachlatta> What's the thing called in Ubuntu where I can push like Alt followed by ' followed by i to get í?
[09:01] <edd_> yeah Moh2335 mine never worked :)
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  how about this one http://blog.asiantuntijakaveri.fi/2012/07/converting-ubuntu-linux-with-gpt-system.html
[09:02] <Iszak> zachlatta accent shortcut?
[09:02] <zachlatta> There's a specific name for it.
[09:02] <zachlatta> I used to have it binded to caps lock.
[09:02] <zachlatta> I can't think of what it was called though.
[09:02] <zachlatta> And I don't have Ubuntu next to me to check.
[09:03] <Moh2335> edd did you install the driver of your card which supports hdmi correctly?
[09:03] <edd_> I have intel Hd
[09:03] <Moh2335> ah
[09:03] <edd_> so its already present
[09:03] <edd_> plus i installed another one anyway
[09:03] <edd_> tried so much stuff to get it working
[09:03] <zachlatta> Ah, it's the ComposeKey.
[09:03] <Moh2335> have you tried a clean intstall?
[09:04] <edd_> Cant do that :D
[09:04] <Moh2335> :P
[09:04] <edd_> It never worked out of the box anyway so clean instal wont work
[09:04] <Moh2335> oh
[09:06] <edd_> Moh2335: :D
[09:06] <edd_> Do u have intel card?
[09:06] <Iszak> MonkeyDust following it, but i don't need to re-install grub or the kernal, this is a secondary hard drive.
[09:08] <m0loch> MonkeyDust: I was able to connect from my home computer to a VPS server.  The server was running ubuntu 12.10 - openswan l2tp/ipsec whatever version it had.  Followed some tutorial on the net, and it worked just fine.  Upgraded to 13.04 and now can't connect
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  that's beyond me -- put your question and the comment about kernel and secondary hard drive in one line a,d repeat it every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[09:09] <Moh2335> oh hey edd was gone
[09:09] <edd_> :D
[09:09] <Moh2335> uh no i have an hd radeon 5450 with hdmi :/
[09:09] <edd_> dam it
[09:09] <edd_> Anyone here have a Sony Vaio laptop with hdmi sound :P
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> m0loch  is it the server you upgrades to 13.04? if yes, consider asking in #ubuntu-server
[09:10] <Iszak> running 13.04 on a production server? ouch.
[09:10] <m0loch> MonkeyDust: Yes, I'll go ask.
[09:10] <Moh2335> edd
[09:10] <edd_> sup
[09:10] <Moh2335> try the hda-analyzer
[09:10] <Moh2335> it
[09:11] <edd_> What do i do?
[09:11] <Moh2335> changes like where the sound comes from (srry english is not my native :P)
[09:11] <Moh2335> wait i will send the link
[09:11] <Moh2335> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/HDA_Analyzer
[09:11] <edd_> kk
[09:11] <edd_> ill give this ago
[09:11] <edd_> i aint seen this one before
[09:11] <Moh2335> btw do those commands with sudo :P
[09:11] <edd_> and i am on the verge of this now so it makes sense to try it
[09:13] <edd_> :P
[09:13] <edd_> Typed them all
[09:13] <edd_> wtf do i do with it :D
[09:13] <Moh2335> now you will see all kinds of pins
[09:13] <Moh2335> tot the left
[09:14] <Moh2335> click on them all and see if you can find the hdmi
[09:14] <Moh2335> one
[09:14] <edd_> brb ill pb
[09:15] <Moh2335> oh by the way is your laptop model vaio sve14?
[09:15] <edd_> http://pastebin.com/vneKvYAC
[09:15] <edd_> er
[09:16] <sp4ceD> Im in ?
[09:16] <Outcast> Any Unity/Firefox Gurus here ?
[09:16] <edd_> pcg-719m111
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Outcast
[09:17] <Moh2335> edd run it with sudo
[09:17] <Moh2335> like sudo (the command)
[09:17] <edd_> all of it?
[09:17] <Moh2335> no the run
[09:17] <Moh2335> just the first 2
[09:17] <Moh2335> srry forgot to say
[09:17] <DanaG> !find org.gnome.SessionManager.service
[09:17] <Outcast> ok.. I've upgraded to 13:04 and the Amazon icon within unity now takes me to Amazon.COM instead on.Co.Uk ... How do I change it back ?
[09:17] <DanaG> !find org.gnome.SessionManager.service precise
[09:17] <edd_> sudo et -O run.py http://www.alsa-project.org/hda-analyzer.py ?
[09:18] <Moh2335> yeah
[09:18] <Moh2335> and then the 2nd one aswell
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> !find sessionmanager
[09:18] <Moh2335> the first one is to install the program
[09:18] <Moh2335> the 2nd one runs the program
[09:18] <edd_> is sudo super user?
[09:18] <Moh2335> yes
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> edd_  it means switch user
[09:19] <edd_> ok :)
[09:19] <Moh2335> oh
[09:19] <Moh2335> lol
[09:19] <Guest46315> Hello! Please, how to install skype on Ubuntu ?
[09:19] <edd_> ok
[09:19] <Moh2335> Monkey dust whats the D then?
[09:19] <edd_> massive thing opened up :D
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> Moh2335  my mistake: su is switch user, sudo is super user do
[09:20] <Moh2335> ah :) good to know
[09:21] <edd_> It just opened something crazy looking and little scary
[09:21] <Moh2335> ahahah
[09:21] <DanaG> I usually do 'sudo -i', because 'sudo su' looks silly.
[09:21] <edd_> But cant see any hdmi options in here :S
[09:21] <DanaG> And redundant.
[09:21] <Moh2335> well click on the left on the pins
[09:21] <Moh2335> and nodes
[09:21] <edd_> There is milions :P
[09:21] <Seveas> DanaG: sudo su *is* silly :)
[09:21] <Moh2335> well you will have to read what it says
[09:22] <Moh2335> sometimes it says blue jack, pink or green, hdmi
[09:22] <kblin> hi folks
[09:22] <edd_> Well am just gona press shit :D
[09:22] <Moh2335> :P
[09:22] <eos__> hi all! Do you know of a client for ubuntu that allows you to post to twitter, identica, facebook, google+, etc.? If it does support also forums better ....
[09:22] <kblin> I'e got trouble printing to a network printer from my new 13.04 system, works just fine from the 10.04 system I also run
[09:22] <eos__> managing all these social networks has become impossible.
[09:23] <kblin> as far as I can see, the cups settings are identical
[09:23] <kblin> so I'm a bit stumped as to where the problem might be
[09:23] <DanaG> HDMI issues?  Two things to check: pavucontrol (pulseaudio volume control), and: do you have an ATI card?
[09:23] <kblin> any hints?
[09:23] <Moh2335> no dana he has an intel
[09:23] <DanaG> ATI with the open-source drivers defaults to not actually passing the HDMI audio.
[09:23] <Hans-Martin> Hi folks, I'm having problems with nouveau and wifi. It's clearly related to nouveau, as soon as I switch back to nvidia proprietary drivers wifi is working again.
[09:23] <Moh2335> oh dana could you take it over? i have to go :P
[09:24] <srefon> wy oh why wont this stupid board reboot
[09:24] <DanaG> Same here, actually.  2:30 AM.
[09:24] <cloneG> Ben64: I purged bumblebee but now ubuntu graphic environment   wont start: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/
[09:24] <Seveas> kblin: what's the problem? What does /var/log/cups give you?
[09:24] <edd_> HDMi mute?
[09:24] <edd_> Ill untick that
[09:24] <DanaG> Hah, for me, nvidia's Optimus doesn't even work IN WINDOWS!
[09:24] <Hans-Martin> I remember trying nouveau a long time ago and giving up due to the same problem, looks like it has not been fixed in 13.04
[09:24] <kblin> Seveas: the problem is that my jobs aren't printing
[09:24] <edd_> Right i pressed lots of shit :D
[09:24] <edd_> Lets see if it works
[09:24] <DanaG> At least, on the thinkpad my workplace gave me.
[09:24] <IdleOne> !language | edd_
[09:25] <Seveas> kblin: do they disappear or are they queued? If they're queued, maybe cups has paused the print queue?
[09:25] <cloneG> Ben64: the log file says it failed to initialize NVIDIA GPU
[09:25] <Moh2335> edd
[09:25] <edd_> nope:(
[09:25] <kblin> Seveas: the log has tons of lines like E [27/Apr/2013:11:20:16 +0200] [Job 7] Unable to get printer status
[09:25] <Moh2335> find the pin called 0x58
[09:25] <cloneG> Ben64: any idea?
[09:25] <Moh2335> that has to be the hdmi one
[09:25] <Flohack> Good Morning
[09:25] <edd_> not there
[09:25] <Moh2335> oh
[09:25] <Moh2335> dang it
[09:25] <Flohack> Anyone here who can help with initramfs issues?
[09:25] <DanaG> Oh, and random other tidbit about the thinkpad: it LOCKS UP if you have Optimus enabled and try to boot Linux.  Nouveau must be horribly unhappy.
[09:26] <Outcast> G'morning Flohack
[09:26] <DanaG> My solution: Just disable the NVIDIA chip.  Now the laptop is cool and quiet.
[09:26] <jhenke> hi, is the problem with the number of unread messages on the thunderbird icon already known? I filed a bug about it shortly after upgrade to 13.04 but no reaction until now
[09:26] <Flohack> update-initramfs fails with smth like cannot create directory .. file exists?
[09:26] <Seveas> kblin: that sounds like communication with the printer is borked. Can you share /etc/cups/printers.conf from both computers?
[09:26] <kblin> Seveas: they jobs are stuck in the queue saying "processing"
[09:26] <ibboT> On the installer for 13.04, when partitioning, which is the current partition and which will be the new partition? Is the current one the left or right side?
[09:26] <edd_> fml
[09:26] <kblin> sure, hang on, I need to install pastebinit first :)
[09:27] <Moh2335> wait edd
[09:27] <kblin> I hate new systems...
[09:27] <Moh2335> :P
[09:27] <Moh2335> maybe 0x04
[09:27] <Moh2335> it your pastebin it says that your hdmi is that one
[09:27] <edd_> found
[09:27] <Moh2335> ok
[09:27] <Moh2335> now is it out?
[09:27] <edd_> no
[09:27] <Moh2335> change it from in to out
[09:28] <Outcast> ok.. I've upgraded to 13:04 and the Amazon icon within unity now takes me to Amazon.COM instead on.Co.Uk ... How do I change it back ?
[09:28] <edd_> there is no in and out
[09:28] <edd_> Just emphasis enable, copyright blah blah blah
[09:28] <Moh2335> are there any selectable options?
[09:29] <dechi> How do I know my desk version
[09:29] <dechi> ?
[09:29]  * DanaG curses Unity for having non-disable-able fades.
[09:29] <edd_> yeah them ones
[09:29] <edd_> i pressed enabled but that did fack all
[09:29] <edd_> maybe i need to clock it
[09:29] <edd_> close*
[09:29] <Moh2335> edd
[09:29] <Moh2335> could you post a picture
[09:29] <cloneG> hello I am having this error with Xserver in ubuntu 12.04: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/
[09:29] <Flohack> anyone interested in strange initramfs problem? See http://pastebin.com/HSU0a7g4
[09:30] <kblin> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607727/ <-- new printers.conf  and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607733/ <-- old printers.conf
[09:30] <edd_> ok
[09:31] <edd_> Want me to get teamviewer instead :P
[09:31] <Moh2335> would be better :P
[09:31] <edd_> Ok
[09:31] <edd_> Do we have this for unbuntu :P
[09:31] <Moh2335> edd yes
[09:32] <Moh2335> on their site
[09:32] <ibboT> ok, found my answer, Ubuntu is on the right
[09:32] <edd_> love it when that happens :D
[09:32] <eos__> hi all! Do you know of a client for ubuntu that allows you to post to twitter, identica, facebook, google+, etc.? If it does support also forums better .... (I got disconnected)
[09:32] <edd_> wish everything would support it
[09:32] <edd_> apart from the hdmi crap its excellent :D
[09:33] <edd_> INSTALLING
[09:33] <DanaG> You know what's totally awesome about Intel graphics?  Given a _pro_ laptop with vPro, it has a HARDWARE VNC SERVER.
[09:33] <edd_> ILL pm u
[09:33] <hydrox24> I'm having trouble with samba mounts, I've been looking online for ages but no matter what I do I get an error 13 while trying to mount a windows mount.
[09:33] <edd_> dont want everyone having me codes :D
[09:33] <DanaG> ... which is completely awesome.
[09:33] <Moh2335> hahah
[09:33] <hydrox24> DanaG: You should probably go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:33] <hydrox24> !offtopic
[09:33] <Ben64> hydrox24: and error 13 is... ?
[09:33] <dechi> No idees ?
[09:34] <hydrox24> Permission denied.
[09:34] <hydrox24> Full error is as follows:
[09:34] <Ben64> hydrox24: what command are you using to mount
[09:34] <hydrox24> mount error(13): Permission denied
[09:34] <hydrox24> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[09:34] <hydrox24> sudo mount -t cifs //BAINTONS/Music /mnt/iTunes -o guest
[09:35] <DanaG> Anyway, I was going to ask about getting the darn gnome-documents thing to work with the PPA version of gnome... but found it was just plain broken.
[09:35] <adrenalink> can please someone explain me how the startup of a Gnome Session works? (x server, login manager, etc...) _ Thx
[09:35] <hydrox24> I've tried using the desktop's IP but that didn't help.
[09:35] <DanaG> Rolled back to the regular gnome3 ppa (versus 'staging'), and now it works.
[09:35] <kblin> Seveas: I fail to spot major differences
[09:35] <Ben64> hydrox24: doesn't look like right syntax to me
[09:35] <hydrox24> adrenalink: You might be able to get some more help with that (if no-one here knows) by going the linux channel. #linux
[09:35] <kblin> Seveas: and I can reach the system the print server is installed on just fine, even on port 631
[09:36] <hydrox24> Ben64: example taken from the man page: mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt --verbose -o user=username
[09:36] <Ben64> yet you have -o guest
[09:37] <cloneG> hello nvidia Geforce 8800 GT under Ubuntu 12.04 GPU fails to initialize: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/
[09:37] <dn4> what is a good size for a swap space
[09:37] <Jordan_U> dn4: Do you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate)?
[09:37] <eos__> dn4: I go for 2xRAM + 10%
[09:37] <hydrox24> Ben64: it's a valid option to set it so that there aren't any security credentials.
[09:38] <dn4> Jordan_U, I don't care really
[09:38] <hydrox24> Ben64: Which is how I've setup my windows share.
[09:38] <Ben64> hydrox24: well you have an authentication problem, so you need to recheck all that
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> dn4  if you plan to hibernate/suspend alot: use twice the RAM size for swap
[09:39] <CQ> where are the files from a release-upgrade kept?
[09:39] <hydrox24> Ben64: I'm clear that it's telling me that there's and auth problem but I've tried 10s of combinations of usernames and domains and whatnot.
[09:40] <dn4> MonkeyDust, what happens if I don't have that at all ?
[09:40] <Jordan_U> dn4: Then it doesn't matter much. You'll probably want at least a GiB of swap just in case you really do start exhausting your RAM (which shouldn't happen often).
[09:40] <Ben64> hydrox24: windows isn't accepting the username/password combo you're using. windows doesn't play nicely
[09:40] <hydrox24> Ben64: I've tried the command from multiple ubuntu laptops on the network too, each running a different version of ubuntu.
[09:40] <hydrox24> Ben64: any ideas on where to look in windows for clues then?
[09:40] <kblin> dn4: I've got 265 gb ram number crunchers where I never bother to set up swap
[09:40] <Ben64> nah, haven't used windows for a decade
[09:41] <DanaG> Event Viewer -- eventvwr.msc
[09:41] <Jordan_U> dn4: Without swap, if you run out of RAM then the kernel's OOM killer will kill processes until you do have available RAM.
[09:41] <kblin> dn4: that's fine if you never expect to run out of ram
[09:41] <TakeItEZ> dn4: you always can add a swapfile later, if you really need some swap
[09:41] <DanaG> Speaking of RAM and swap: I'd rather have things CRASH than have the whole system grind to a halt, swapping.
[09:41] <DanaG> ... in situations of something devouring memory.
[09:42] <Jordan_U> dn4: With swap, if you run out of physical RAM then the kernel will start using swap, and by that time you should hopefully notice that something is wrong and fix it before your swap fills up as well (which should take longer, given that disks are slow). If you run out of RAM and swap, you're back to the OOM killer.
[09:43] <Jordan_U> DanaG: You can always alt+sysrq+F (to manually trigger the OOM killer).
[09:43] <dn4> what is OOM killer ?
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> out of memory
[09:44] <Jordan_U> dn4: Out Of Memory killer, again it kills processes (in a not very nice way) to free memory.
[09:45] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:45] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[09:45] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[09:45] <dn4> hmm does ubuntu have macbook pro fan support
[09:45] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[09:45] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> dn4: The fans in Macs are controlled by the firmware, so even if the OS knows nothing about them they will still run when things start getting hot. There  is also support for telling the firmware to increase the fan speed (or decrease it, though that's not recommended), but I don't know what percentage of models are supported.
[09:49] <lolmaus> Trying to run Ubuntu 13.04 x64 on VirtualBox. Installed fine, installed guest additions fine. But i'm stuck with 1024x768 screen resolution. Is there a way to make guest resolution comply with VirtalBox window size? Or at least set the resolution manually?
[09:51] <srefon> eny one can help with a broken xserveR?
[09:53] <srefon> help
[09:54] <Ben64> srefon: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." And don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/
[09:56] <Outcast> ok.. I've upgraded to 13:04 and the Amazon icon within unity now takes me to Amazon.COM instead on.Co.Uk ... How do I change it back ?
[09:57] <srefon> I have ubuntu 12.10 i had a gigabyte motherboard with amd apu e350 integrated radeon 6310 and i got a  replacement asrock motherboard with the same apu and grapchic but now ubuntu wont boot into grapchil mode and the setup for 13.04 wont boot either
[09:59] <Walex> srefon: that's somewhat unlikley, unless the integrated radeon has a slightly different version number.
[09:59] <Walex> srefon: in any case you can start figuring things out by choosing text mode.
[09:59]  * tali just got banned from #politics ... what's up with that!
[09:59] <srefon> im in text mode but the output of xorg.log dosent tell me a thing
[10:00] <srefon> when i try to update a package i get thet no updates are avalible
[10:00] <srefon> i had the xorg edgers ppa enabled
[10:00] <Walex> srefon: the autoconfig stuff for the GUI relies on chip ids, so if the chip id is not one of the "known" ones it won't autoconfigure.
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> srefon  ppa's are not supported here, better ask the maintainer
[10:00] <srefon> i only say i have it added because that may be reveland
[10:01] <Jordan_U> tali: This is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu technical support discussion. Please stay on topic.
[10:01] <onr> Outcast: i'd look at its .desktop file in /use/share/applications
[10:01] <srefon> and i have a second problem when i try to restart or shutdown the board hangs the screen is balck and nothing happens
[10:01] <Walex> srefon: and the PPA should be fairly recent. Is that the 'ubuntu-x-swat' repot?
[10:02] <Walex> srefon: and the PPA should be fairly recent. Is that the 'ubuntu-x-swat' repo?
[10:02] <srefon> yap
[10:02] <Walex> srefon: that's "almost" official.
[10:02] <Walex> srefon: if you are really desperate you can always use the VESA or FB driver...
[10:03] <srefon> Walex: when i tried vesa the system hung and i couldent get even an x.org log
[10:03] <Walex> srefon: that's extremely bizarre.
[10:03] <Walex> srefon: however in text mode try....
[10:04] <Walex> srefon: 'lspci | grep -i vga' and then 'spci -n | grep XXX' where XXX is the first column of the output of the previous command
[10:04] <Timvde> At this moment, I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 using gnome-panel. I read gnome-panel isn't supported anymore in Gnome 3.8, which Ubuntu 13.04 is using. What will happen when I upgrade?
[10:05] <Walex> srefon: that will tell you is the graphics ID code.
[10:05] <srefon> brb
[10:06] <Campfire> hell o
[10:07] <Campfire> my bad bring on ubuntu
[10:07] <Walex> srefon: for example my output is "01:00.0 0300: 1002:94b3" and the chip code is "1002:94b3"
[10:08] <srefon> spci not foun
[10:08] <srefon> found*
[10:08] <Walex> srefon: "lspci" oops
[10:09] <Outcast> onr thanks .. I'll try that
[10:10] <srefon> ok got it
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> Timvde  just installed gnome-panel and am using it now, ok, looks a bit like gnome2
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> Timvde  in the LightDM menu, it's called Fallback
[10:11] <Timvde> MonkeyDust: So Ubuntu is still shipping it in 13.04? Awesome, thanks :) Upgrading tomorrow ^^
[10:12] <srefon> so Walex what should i fo with it?
[10:12] <srefon> 1002:9802
[10:12] <Walex> srefon: a web search, and/or compare with the codes in the 'Xorg.log'.
[10:13] <srefon> some old bugs popped but nothing reveland
[10:13] <srefon> thing is why the installation of 13.04 hangs
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> Timvde  note: when I try to open a folder from the Fallback menu, it opens Totem mediapayer, so not Nautilus filemanager
[10:14] <Walex> srefon: the old bugs seem to provide a few workarounds...
[10:14] <Timvde> MonkeyDust: What? O.o But I guess I can fix that somewhere... *sigh*
[10:15] <Walex> srefon: it looks like there are bugs in 3D accel support with that chip. And perhaps using a newer kernel would help, e.g. from backports.
[10:15] <srefon> i had a backportted 3.7 kernel
[10:15] <srefon> 3.7.0-7-generic
[10:16] <Walex> srefon: ahhhh. Perhaps then try to do the opposite. Sometimes bugs happen on *newer* stuff that is not yet tested on all chip variants.
[10:16] <srefon> probably
[10:17] <srefon> second problem is i disabled all the update options in software center and probably that now emerged as i cant install enything with dependecies with apt-get
[10:17] <srefon> i get that cant find dependecy package
[10:17] <Walex> srefon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1069353 seems a bit relevant too
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Timvde  and when returning to Unity after Fallback, my launchbar is set back to default
[10:18] <Walex> srefon: I do all updates carefully with 'aptitude' that usually helps see dependencies and/or select manually specific verions of specific packages for cases like this.
[10:18] <Timvde> MonkeyDust: Not planning to use Unity :) I might give it another try in next LTS, but not sooner
[10:18] <Outcast> onr .. I did as you suggested but couldn't really change anything..BUT.. It now points to where it should.. So.. Problem solved.. Thankyou
[10:19] <shmoon> curious regarding something, how can i mount a partition as /home ?
[10:19] <shmoon> so there's a partition which is empty, i mount it as /home
[10:19] <Walex> shmoon: that's fine.
[10:20] <shmoon> Walex: ? what command ?
[10:20] <Walex> shmoon: 'mount' or you edit the relevant line in '/etc/fstab'
[10:20] <shmoon> mount /dev/sda9 /blaster mounts /dev/sda9 FS to /blaster , but i want to do it like /dev/sda9 is empty so any contents of /blaster becomes available in that device, do i make sense?
[10:21] <srefon> i still wonder why my gigabyte motherboard worked like a charm
[10:21] <Walex> shmoon: BTW having separate filesystems for '/' and '/home' is a nice idea so you can update the system being used.
[10:21] <shmoon> :D
[10:21] <Jordan_U> Walex: shmoon: You don't need a separate /home/ partition to update, or upgrade, or re-install Ubuntu while preserving /home/.
[10:22] <shmoon> yeah was thinking, so mounting /home to a new unused partition how'd that bedonme?
[10:22] <shmoon> be done*
[10:22] <Jordan_U> shmoon: First you'd need to copy the current contents of /home/ to the new filesystem.
[10:22] <Walex> srefon: it probably had a slightly different graphics chip. Or perhaps there is a bug triggered by some other chip driver, or some BIOS setting.
[10:22] <Walex> Jordan_U: it is not necessary but it gives a lot more options.
[10:23] <shmoon> Jordan_U: what command helps doing that?
[10:23] <onr> Outcast: you're welcome :)
[10:25] <shmoon> Jordan_U: so basically write to disk block by block ?
[10:28] <srefon> but why i t wont restart?
[10:28] <srefon> will now reastar and nothing happens
[10:28] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | srefon
[10:28] <sanchezremi> Ubuntu snake
[10:29] <srefon> da fuk
[10:29] <Jordan_U> !language | srefon
[10:29] <srefon> sorry
[10:29] <srefon> got hit by electricity
[10:32] <shmoon> basically my question is, if i have /hoe and an empty partition I want to make that empty partition mount as /home
[10:32] <shmoon> or lets say /home is running out of space i add in another Hard disk and use that as /home something along those lnes, how is it done ? I guess plain simple mount command wont help[
[10:32] <Dr_willis> shmoon,  you can move specicic users to the other partition and link them to your /home if you want to use both.
[10:33] <Dr_willis> shmoon,  or move all of the current home to the new partion, then mount it to  /home
[10:34] <Jordan_U> shmoon: Or you can just link individual directories, like ~/Videos, so that they are stored on your other drive.
[10:34] <shmoon> Dr_willis: how do i move all /home to new partition?
[10:35] <Dr_willis> same as you copy/move files from any other directory
[10:35] <Jordan_U> shmoon: See the link from ubottu.
[10:35] <shmoon> oh i see, i thought partiitons are device files i guess so cp/mv wouldn't work
[10:35] <Dr_willis> shmoon,  you MUST mount the filesystem to copy stuff to it
[10:35] <shmoon> Jordan_U: where?
[10:36] <Dr_willis> a partiton is a device :)
[10:36] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | shmoon
[10:36] <Dr_willis> if your current home is on its own partion you could clone it to a new partition
[10:39] <georgi> hello
[10:39] <georgi> my question is about evolution mail
[10:39] <shmoon> got it thanks
[10:39] <georgi> I don't see reminders even though I have set such
[10:39] <georgi> can you help me with that
[10:40] <georgi> hellooooooooooooooooo
[10:47] <sw0rdfish> hey, how does cloud storage work? if I sync a folder to the cloud, are the contents of the folder uploaded to the cloud?
[10:47] <Dr_willis> yes sw0rdfish
[10:48] <sw0rdfish> yeah I thought so... so I'll just use sftp for now cuz the folder/directory is a bit too big.
[10:52] <Lucas_> i want to send an email on my website from random-email@random.com to my gmail address without it being sent to the spam folder. Ideas? using sendmail?
[10:54] <Moh2335> !offtopic
[10:54] <Moh2335> Guys how do i switch channels in Xchat?
[10:54] <Moh2335> I want to go to offtopic
[10:54] <Dr_willis>  /join #foo
[10:55] <Dr_willis> xchat had some nice help docs/mauals on irc at one time.. (check its help menu)
[10:55] <llutz> Lucas_: add a spf-entry to your servers dns, setting your mailserver as an authorized sender for mail from random.com
[10:55] <Moh2335> thank you guys :P
[10:55] <magpii> whats the command to register my password and email on freenode?
[10:56] <llutz> !register
[10:56] <Lucas_> llutz, random.com is random, not always the same domain.
[10:56] <llutz> Lucas_: then you cannot, since that always will be handled as spam (for a good reason)
[10:57] <magpii> what does eronious nicknmae meen?
[10:57] <llutz> Lucas_: domain-misuse isn't fun
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> magpii  it means wrong or invalid nickname
[10:57] <magpii> erronious nickname
[10:57] <magpii> how can it be wrong or invalid? its my nickname
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> magpii  better ask in #freenode
[10:58] <Parhs> weed
[10:59] <n73950> skank
[11:00] <pdors> !list
[11:01] <exit> (-_-Lol
[11:01] <pdors> !lista
[11:04] <exit> hawo do you finde firefox ? stabile ?
[11:05] <Dr_willis> exit,  huh? Firefox runs fine on ubuntu
[11:06] <exit> i run pyngui os 12.04
[11:06] <exit> shell
[11:06] <cristina> hello
[11:06] <exit> ubuntu
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Pinguy is not Ubuntu. and has its own support channels. check its web site.
[11:06] <exit> i know
[11:07] <pdors> !lista
[11:07] <Dr_willis> !list > pdors
[11:07] <DJones> !oiracy > pdors
[11:07] <DJones> !piracy > pdors
[11:08] <Draxelis> nautilus on ubuntu 13.04 has a problem. Try making a link to a folder on another hard drive/ partition, restart OS and see what happens with those links  (shortucts) - nautilus crashes!
[11:08] <samijam> !piracy
[11:08] <samijam> !o4o
[11:08] <exit> but all is linux well
[11:08] <Draxelis> nautilus on ubuntu 13.04 has a problem. Try making a link to a folder on another hard drive/ partition, restart OS and see what happens with those links  (shortucts) - nautilus crashes!
[11:09] <Moh2335> Hey guys, is it just me or does everyone get mouse lagg while playing counter strikie source native steam
[11:09] <Dr_willis> exit,  if you have a actual Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it.
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> exit  type /join #pinguyos
[11:09] <samijam> is this "o4o" an acronym?
[11:09] <Dr_willis> if you want PinGuy support see the channel given above
[11:09] <exit> thanks
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> samijam  it means off-topic for off-topic
[11:10] <Moh2335> is this offtopic?
[11:10] <samijam> MonkeyDust, thanks
[11:10] <samijam> Moh2335, no.  I just saw it from the bot. it's not related to your question
[11:10] <killer> hey
[11:10] <Moh2335> Oh lol :P
[11:11] <Moh2335> so no gamers here?
[11:11] <killer> like google chrome is there any problems related to vmplayer installation in 13.04
[11:11] <Dr_willis> 'like google chrome' ?   Google chrome works fine here..
[11:11] <Dr_willis> !vmplayer
[11:12] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[11:12] <Thor> Have there been changes to the way network config works in 13.04? my server doesn't seem to set up DNS correctly, even when setting dns-nameservers 192.168.88.35. there is no setting applied in /etc/resolv.conf and it can't resolve any urls
[11:12] <auronandace> !resolvconf | Thor
[11:12] <DJones> !steam | Moh2335 You may get some response to that question here,
[11:13] <Moh2335> Djones and ubottu thanks
[11:13] <bonhoeffer> i lost the bar at the top of my screen -- any way to restore it?
[11:13] <Thor> auronandace: if you read what I said I said it doesn't apply *anything*
[11:14] <Moh2335> !steam
[11:24] <exit> i find i run ubuntu-linaro version
[11:25] <mint> installing ubuntu, should I keep / and /boot on separate partitions?
[11:26] <vramana> I have recently installed gnome 3.8 but I didn't like I wanted to remove it by  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65200/remove-gnome-shell-completely-after-installing-it  and even this Accidentally I removed NitroTasks software
[11:26] <vramana> I think I might have removed some other programs as well
[11:27] <vramana> Is there any way to remove all other packages other than default ones that comes with Ubuntu 13.04
[11:27] <vramana> ??
[11:30] <onr> vramana: i would use /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:31] <vramana> onr: What should I do??
[11:31] <sdofm> hi
[11:32] <sdofm> where can get script for remove Ubuntu copyrights in distro please?
[11:32] <usr13> vramana: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39658/how-to-uninstall-all-but-the-default-ubuntu-packages
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> sdofm  what copyrights would that be?
[11:34] <sdofm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138576
[11:34] <sdofm> this script need for change title of OS
[11:34] <sdofm> for new OS based on Ubuntu
[11:35] <sdofm> help please
[11:35] <sdofm> ^^
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> !uck | sdofm
[11:37] <sdofm> Monkey this util can remove copyrights?
[11:37] <sdofm> read theme plz on forum
[11:37] <sdofm> guy said need remove it all
[11:38] <sdofm> logos and "Ubuntu" in names
[11:38] <sdofm> and icons...
[11:38] <usr13> sdofm: Can't you just start from a Debian base?
[11:39] <vramana> usr13: This command comm -3 <(cat filesystem.manifest | awk '{print $1}' | sort) ........ The terminal is saying
[11:39] <vramana> cat: filesystem.manifest: No such file or directory
[11:39] <vramana> cat: filesystem.manifest-remove: No such file or directory
[11:39] <usr13> sdofm: Looks to me like Ubuntu leaves the "Debian" stuff there.
[11:39] <sdofm> why debian? i want use Ubuntu repos
[11:39] <onr> vramana: "2013-04-26 00:42:20 status installed gnome-menus:amd64 3.6.2-0ubuntu1" is the latest event while installing ubuntu, according to my log. i'd remove everything below
[11:41] <vramana> onr: After that what should I do??
[11:41] <sdofm> :(
[11:42] <usr13> sdofm: So where would the Trademark policy's be?
[11:42] <sdofm> noone not  can help?
[11:42] <usr13> I don't even know....
[11:42] <sdofm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138576
[11:42] <onr> vramana: why don't you just reinstall ubuntu?
[11:43] <sdofm> I do not know how to find all copyrights.
[11:44] <vramana> I have Installed my present ubuntu inside windows and My windows startup is not working
[11:44] <vramana> So I have to format everything I have got to install it
[11:45] <vramana> I am a little scared to do it I can reinstall but if there is no other way of reverting back
[11:45] <Riccardo> io ubuntu o xubuntu?
[11:45] <Riccardo> ubuntu o xubuntu
[11:45] <sdofm> bb :(
[11:45] <onr> vramana: your GRUB list doesn't have Windows?
[11:46] <sdofm> #ubuntu-ru
[11:46] <Riccardo> ubuntu?
[11:46] <Riccardo> ubuntu
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Riccardo  how can we halp you?
[11:46] <vramana> onr: I boot through Windows Grub is not my default boot loader
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> help*
[11:47] <vramana> and When try to start windows it is saying windows Startup recover
[11:47] <Riccardo> helpyes
[11:47] <vramana> and is never finishing
[11:48] <Riccardo> im is italian
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:48] <Riccardo> ok
[11:49] <onr> vramana: it seems unrelated to packages installed in ubuntu. i don't know why windows starts startup recovery
[11:50] <vramana> It is because I didn't shut it down properly sometimes It happened in past once and now it is happening again
[11:53] <bandit22> has anybody had trouble with firefox & chromium crashing frequently on ubuntu 12.04?
[11:54] <vooze> 13.04: So after tweaking some bumblebee settings I cannot login to unity. Its just the wallpaper and nothing else. (guest user works fine with unity) and my user works fine with gnome-shell and gnome fallback. What could I have done to cause this? I even tryed reinstalled unity package etc.
[11:56] <DevilBoy> so first hello every one, did any one use VMware workstation on ubuntu and is it stable please?
[11:56] <usr13> I have a problem:  I'
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> DevilBoy  there's virtualbox
[11:57] <usr13> I have a problem:  I'm getting "New release '12.10' available." but I'm set to LTS  Why is this?
[11:57] <BluesKaj_> Howdy all
[11:57] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have nvidia 610m card, but it is not detected by the Ubuntu 13.04 I think, I've installed bumblebee. but still the ubuntu is using Intel sandybridge drivers.
[11:58] <usr13> tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades reveals "Prompt=lts"  (Is there more to it than that?)
[11:58] <vooze> thrillERboy,  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html read that under bumblebee
[12:02] <Dan-E> Installed Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???
[12:04] <usr13> sdofm: Do you have a name?
[12:04] <usr13> (for new distro)
[12:06] <thrillERboy> usr13, you must have enabled a setting to show non-LTS updates as well, you can disable it under - Ubuntu software center > Edit > Software sources > updates > Notify me of new ubuntu version > set that to "for long term support versions only"
[12:09] <pac1> I have a desktop icon that I want to launch a script in my home directory.  When I specify the command in the launcher as $HOME/my_script it does nothing.  if I hard code the home directory it works.  Why is that.  Is there a way to use an environment variable in a desktop icon's command?
[12:12] <Guest7464> YO im greatly dissapointed, because ubuntu 13.04 wont load after formatting drive. I had Win7. halp PLZ.
[12:14] <Guest7464> it says "Disk not found", "No media" "Nothing to boot with"........../ afk
[12:15] <pac1> Guest7464, did you use the whole disk, or just part of it, keeping windows 7?
[12:17] <usr13> thrillERboy: That's just it, it's already set to "long term support versions only".
[12:17] <usr13> tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades reveals "Prompt=lts"
[12:18] <thrillERboy> usr13, Sorry, I only know that part :)
[12:18] <UbuntuCloud> hi everyone
[12:18] <Dan-E> Installed Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???
[12:19] <UbuntuCloud> i have a problem on ubuntui 12.0.4 on microsot azure cloud
[12:19] <usr13> thrillERboy: Well, there is definately something wrong with this system.
[12:20] <UbuntuCloud> try to create raid 5 with 8 1TB disk and i using mdadm but after put /etc/fstab and reset the system is not boot
[12:21] <usr13> thrillERboy: It has recently been upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, (couple months ago), and I don't know exactly how long, but I believe ever since then.
[12:23] <sam113101> HEL3P
[12:23] <mattwj2002> is 13.04 any good?
[12:23] <mattwj2002> :P
[12:23] <sam113101> yes
[12:23] <mattwj2002> sweet
[12:24] <mattwj2002> that is good because I am downloading it at about 30 Mbps
[12:24] <mattwj2002> ;)
[12:26] <UbuntuCloud> any help on creating raid 5
[12:27] <mattwj2002> hi UbuntuCloud
[12:27] <mattwj2002> I have created raid 5 before
[12:28] <mattwj2002> are you using the desktop or server version?
[12:28] <Dan-E> Installed Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???
[12:28] <UbuntuCloud> mattwj2002 i have an issue with that i tried to folow almost all web site for creating raid 5
[12:29] <mattwj2002> have you looked at the ubuntu administration guide?
[12:29] <UbuntuCloud> any link
[12:29] <mattwj2002> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/serverguide.pdf
[12:30] <UbuntuCloud> i really tired becuse everytime i have to re provision the whol system its hosted in cloud
[12:30] <mattwj2002> that is for the server version though
[12:30] <Mike3620> How do you start an x windows session over ssh?
[12:30] <UbuntuCloud> mattwj2002 is there any GUI tools for creating raid on ubuntu
[12:31] <UbuntuCloud> Mike3620 start x
[12:31] <mattwj2002> not that I know off the top of my head
[12:32] <mattwj2002> UbuntuCloud: what type of issues are you running into anyways?
[12:32] <mattwj2002> page 16 on that link
[12:33] <UbuntuCloud> mattwj2002 i try to create a raid 5 using 8 1TB disk (its all hosted in cloud) i using fdisk / mdadm and after creating a md0 as raid and format it with mkfs ext4
[12:34] <UbuntuCloud> reboot the system its cause dead system
[12:34] <UbuntuCloud> but before the reset its mounting and work perfect even with mount -a .....
[12:34] <sam113101> HELP
[12:35] <sam113101> I can't run a file, zsh says it doesn't exist but it does
[12:35] <mattwj2002> Ubuntucloud if you are dealing with servers.....
[12:35] <mattwj2002> I might recommend #ubuntu-server
[12:35] <mattwj2002> they are better at things like raid
[12:35] <mattwj2002> :)
[12:35] <UbuntuCloud> sam113101 check file permission and set chmod 775 our 7777
[12:35] <mattwj2002> or
[12:35] <UbuntuCloud> the run again ./file name
[12:35] <mattwj2002> you could try chmod u+x
[12:36] <UbuntuCloud> mattwj2002 thanks for advice
[12:36] <mattwj2002> I am sorry I wasn't much help
[12:36] <Mike3620> UbuntuCloud: It says an x server is already running
[12:36] <mattwj2002> :(
[12:36] <mattwj2002> that bums me out I couldn't fix it!
[12:37] <Dan-E> Installed Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the "X" to shut a program down it just grays out and won't shut down. Any Help???
[12:37] <ServerTechLaptop> Is there a way to check in ubuntu server 12.04 whether gnome is running (after installing ubuntu-desktop)
[12:37] <usr13> Dan-E: What program is it?
[12:37] <Dan-E> all
[12:37] <UbuntuCloud> Mike3620 wich system u want run if gnome you have to sudo gdm start
[12:38] <usr13> Dan-E: So, alternately, how are you shutting them down?
[12:38] <Dan-E> Under "File Quit"
[12:39] <sam113101> the file permissions are 755 already
[12:39] <usr13> Dan-E: Ok, I would suppose the X should no longer be there.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <usr13> Dan-E: You can also do  Ctrl-q  or Ctrl-w
[12:39] <Dan-E> k
[12:39] <UbuntuCloud> sam113101 the use 777
[12:40] <UbuntuCloud> ./filename
[12:40] <Dan-E>  but the problem still remains
[12:40] <Mike3620> I am trying to access my servers x window from my home machine
[12:40] <Mike3620> But cant
[12:40] <usr13> Dan-E: Some apps will close with Ctrl-q   others need   Ctrl-w
[12:41] <Dan-E> my question is why won't the "X" work????
[12:41] <adrenalink> is it possible that a package installation recompiles the kernel?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Mike3620  with what protocol?
[12:42] <Mike3620> MonkeyDust: Ssh
[12:42] <usr13> Dan-E: (Firefox uses Ctrl-w) (I sometimes just do Ctrl-q w.  In other words I hold Ctrl and it q and then w.)
[12:42] <Mike3620> Gnome
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Mike3620  try ssh -y
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Mike3620  or ssh -Y (upper case)
[12:42] <Mike3620> Thnx will try
[12:42] <UbuntuCloud> Mike3620 why you installed gnome on server at all ssh -y
[12:42] <detvarejeg> if i upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 from u 12.10,is it jätte mycket that has to be downloaded my English good
[12:43] <Dan-E> Why does the "X" just gray out just Gray out
[12:43] <doc_b> Can somebody help me. Using 12.10 when I plug my external hard drive into the computer and click on its directory the folder is empty. But when I cd into that folder it is show all my documents. Why is this happening?
[12:43] <usr13> Dan-E: I don't like for Firefox to ask if I want to shut down multiple tabs and Ctrl-w circumvents that process.
[12:43] <mank319> hello :-)
[12:44] <mank319> I am currently setting up a home server which will primarily serve as a nas
[12:44] <ServerTechLaptop> Is there a way to check in ubuntu server 12.04 whether gnome is running (after installing ubuntu-desktop)
[12:44] <usr13> Dan-E:  Did you do apt-get upgrade ?
[12:44] <detvarejeg> hej då
[12:44] <Dan-E> not yet
[12:44] <mank319> shall i choose ubuntu server or rather the alternate install disc
[12:44] <wgqt251> is there any way of running ubuntu 13.04 desktop in kvm with 3D disabled? it _so_ slow, probably because it is using software 3D.
[12:44] <mank319> and then just select what i need
[12:44] <Dan-E> will try now
[12:44] <Dan-E> thanks
[12:44] <Guest7464> any1 got solution for "Disk not found" "No media inserted" "No booting drive" ..... i installed ubuntu 13.04 on formatted disk after Win7
[12:45] <mank319> what are the major default components of ubuntu server?
[12:45] <usr13> mank319: "nas"?
[12:45] <mank319> is there an apache running e.g.? cause i do not need such stuff
[12:45] <mank319> well yeah
[12:45] <mank319> network samba storage
[12:45] <mank319> +
[12:45] <mank319> just a box with linux on it to play around :)
[12:45] <mank319> with a small onboard cpu and stuff
[12:45] <usr13> mank319: Will you use it as a Desktop as well?  (do you need X or not?)
[12:45] <mank319> low powerconsumption etc.
[12:46] <mank319> no
[12:46] <mank319> ssh is enough
[12:46] <usr13> mank319: ubuntu-server
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> mank319  with tasksel, you can select tasks manually
[12:46] <mank319> aye :-)
[12:46] <mattwj2002> guys
[12:46] <mank319> ok fine i will check that out MonkeyDust ;-)
[12:46] <mank319> thank you folks :-)
[12:46] <mattwj2002> I am going to try this 13.04 .. wish me luck! :)
[12:46] <Guest7464> Kkkkkkkkk thanks for help, bye...................-_-
[12:47] <Mike3620> I got google-chrom up over ssh but it is very slow please help
[12:47] <usr13> Mike3620: Use vnc
[12:47] <mattwj2002> Mike3620: are you doing a ssh -X
[12:47] <mattwj2002> ?
[12:47] <Mike3620> Yes I an
[12:48] <doc_b> Can somebody help me. Using 12.10 when I plug my external hard drive into the computer and click on its directory the folder is empty. But when I cd into that folder it shows all my documents. Why is this happening?
[12:48] <usr13> mattwj2002: Obviously
[12:48] <mattwj2002> true
[12:48] <usr13> :-)
[12:48] <mattwj2002> what is upload speed at home?
[12:48] <usr13> Mike3620: tightvnc or x11vnc
[12:48] <mattwj2002> or wherever you are connected to
[12:48] <mattwj2002> listen to usr13
[12:49] <usr13> sudo apt-get install tightvncserver or sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[12:49] <usr13> Mike3620:
[12:49] <Mike3620> I will try vnc
[12:49] <mattwj2002> bbiab
[12:49] <usr13> Your choice.
[12:49] <mattwj2002> I am going to install 13.04!
[12:49] <Dan-E> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded is reply
[12:49] <usr13> mattwj2002: Go for it!
[12:49] <usr13> mattwj2002: Are you on 12.04?
[12:49] <mank319> 13.04 rox so far
[12:50] <mank319> got it running since thursday :-)
[12:50] <mank319> used xubuntu before
[12:50] <doc_b> I don't mean to keep spamming this but its important that I get this figured out. Can somebody help?
[12:51] <mank319> As much as Unity annoyed me during the first 30 minutes i begin to love it the more I use it
[12:51] <usr13> doc_b: With _____________?
[12:51] <mank319> :D
[12:51] <doc_b> Can somebody help me. Using 12.10 when I plug my external hard drive into the computer and click on its directory the folder is empty. But when I cd into that folder it is show all my documents. Why is this happening?
[12:51] <mank319> after all its all just a matter of taste
[12:51] <usr13> Oh I see. Sorry
[12:52] <doc_b> usr13: ha no worries. Do you know way its doing that?
[12:52] <usr13> doc_b: fully updated?
[12:53] <doc_b> usr13: yes 12.10 fully updated
[12:53] <goonface> Says who
[12:53] <mattwj2002> back
[12:54] <usr13> To post screenshots use http://imagebin.org/  (Show us.)
[12:54] <goonface> doc_b: 13.04 update to that.
[12:54] <mattwj2002> usr13: are you part of ubuntu support?
[12:55] <Onixs> we ate all
[12:55] <Onixs> ooops
[12:55] <usr13> mattwj2002: We all are.
[12:55] <mattwj2002> haha
[12:55] <mattwj2002> good point :)
[12:56] <ZacJ> Hey guys.
[12:56] <ZacJ> So check it out, I'm trying to stream my guitar through Ubuntu.  I haven't been able to run Rakarrack and I'm trying to stream through Audacity.
[12:56] <ZacJ> How can I do this?  I'm a noob who loves the idea of open source
[12:57] <usr13> doc_b: To post screenshots use http://imagebin.org/  (Show us.)
[12:57] <ZacJ> One pm of "faggot", excellent so far.
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> ZacJ  I guess the people in #ubuntu-studio know best
[12:57] <ZacJ> Thanks.
[12:57] <doc_b> usr13: sorry yes working on it
[12:57] <usr13> doc_b: Hit PrintScrn
[12:58] <usr13> Hint  ^^^
[12:58] <ZacJ> kk sec
[12:58] <meomic> is fusion-icon crashing for you ppl also? or is it only me?  (ubuntu 13.04 x86-64)
[12:58] <goonface> Stream guitar for what?
[12:59] <ZacJ> Just to play.  I finally got my electric fixed, so tired of acoustic.
[12:59] <ZacJ> Just to hear in my room.
[12:59] <mattwj2002> installing 13.04
[12:59] <mattwj2002> :D
[13:00] <goonface> mattwj2002: try to use nvidia drivers
[13:00] <mattwj2002> I have amd graphics
[13:00] <mattwj2002> :P
[13:00] <mattwj2002> *ati whatever
[13:02] <Moh2335> Well actually ati is amd now :P
[13:02] <goonface> Guitar how you inputing the sound. Through mic jack?
[13:02] <mattwj2002> indeed hence the whatever :)
[13:02] <Moh2335> :P
[13:03] <goonface> Ati should be good to
[13:03] <mattwj2002> this isn't my first install
[13:03] <mattwj2002> I have been using ubuntu for ages now
[13:03] <mattwj2002> :)
[13:03] <mattwj2002> I also use windows but oh well
[13:04] <mattwj2002> no one is prefect right ;)
[13:04] <goonface> God is perfect
[13:04] <emkei> Hello, I just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.10 and ubuntu no longer boots. before stalling it says fixing recursive fault reboot needed. My machine is oldie goodie HP DV6000
[13:05] <emkei> can anyone suggest any steps to retrace what went wrong.
[13:05] <mattwj2002> emkei: I am assuming it doesn't come up after the reboot?
[13:06] <goonface> I rather do clean install. Even format home to erase bad preferences
[13:06] <emkei> It actually comes after reboot
[13:06] <mattwj2002> godness
[13:06] <mattwj2002> 3.8 kernel is out all ready!
[13:07] <mattwj2002> they are no longer messing around!
[13:09] <warefare> hi
[13:09] <Aaruni> how to configure ubuntu/router, if I want remote computers to be able to access my machine ?
[13:09] <mattwj2002> hi warefare
[13:09] <jmnoz> what's the best way to permanently disable *any* update pop ups?
[13:09] <doc_b> usr13: http://imagebin.org/255570 http://imagebin.org/255571 http://imagebin.org/255572
[13:10] <mattwj2002> install complete
[13:10] <mattwj2002> restarting!
[13:11] <oriez> I just upgraded my ubuntu and I cannot run .sh scripts from nautilus
[13:12] <oriez> its open as a text file...
[13:12] <doc_b> oriez: right click file and allow executable?
[13:12] <Guest84774> anybody here
[13:12] <Aaruni> or chmod +x, maybe oriez
[13:13] <Guest84774> sa tu jacys Polacy?
[13:13] <oriez> did it..
[13:13] <oriez> and still
[13:13] <srefon> moze i sa
[13:14] <usr13> doc_b: From what you've shown us, I still don't see what you are talking about. I will say this though, I do not use Nautilus, I use thunar
[13:14] <doc_b> oriez: maybe sudo chmod /file/directory
[13:15] <warefare> what exactly is the purpose of the overflow tmp - it messed up my system a few times now, always changing tmp to 1MB - should be fixed imo
[13:15] <usr13> doc_b: I suppose you can install tunar (even though you are not an xfce user).  But, if you wanna become an xfce user, just do:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[13:15] <Aaruni> oriez: you should get something like this, if its executable : http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=UY6D
[13:15] <oriez> it's system wide problem.. it's noting to do with chmod/..
[13:16] <oriez> i know....
[13:16] <doc_b> usr13: so when I open the folder that the hard drive is mounted to. It is blank. But cd shows files. I can read and write through command line but that is time consuming
[13:16] <oriez> it's happend after upgrading
[13:16] <usr13> doc_b: In other words, I have no idea what your problem is, but I use thunar and I like it better.
[13:16] <doc_b> usr13: I'll probably upgrade to 13.04 soon that might fix it. Just don't have time to mess with it now ha
[13:16] <Aaruni> oriez: maybe something to do with default applications. do try checking your default application settings
[13:16] <usr13> doc_b: The screenshot does not show the file manager:  http://imagebin.org/255572
[13:17] <doc_b> usr13: oh sorry, I'll take a look at that thanks anyway
[13:17] <usr13> doc_b: so... I still don't see
[13:17] <oriez> Aaruni: where?
[13:17] <doc_b> usr13: the folder under firefox browser is nautilus
[13:17] <eos__> is there a client for ubuntu that allows you to post to FB, twitter,identica,G+ at the same time?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> eos__  pidgin has a lot of plugins
[13:18] <usr13> doc_b: I see the icon for the file manager.  What I do not see is how it looks when you navigate to the USB drive.
[13:19] <usr13> doc_b: That's what I asked you to show us.
[13:19] <Aaruni> oriez: I don't really know mate, I am just guessing. I came here with a problem of my own. I am no expert, sorry.
[13:19] <oriez> thx
[13:20] <usr13> oriez: Do these .sh scripts have the executable bit set for them?
[13:20] <budhi-D> anyone know how to update grapics card?
[13:20] <usr13> oriez: sh scipt.sh
[13:20] <doc_b> usr13: that blank screen is the USB directory, there should be folder in it but it is blank.
[13:20] <usr13> oriez: ./script.sh
[13:21] <budhi-D> its an alien ware lap top thoght id try linux
[13:21] <doc_b> oriez: do 'ls -l /directory/to/file
[13:21] <oriez> yes the have
[13:21] <doc_b> oriez: without the '
[13:21] <snowrichard> was setting up a server here at my apartment, I had the dns entries in the wrong order but i think its sorted now
[13:22] <usr13> doc_b: Oh, ok.  Well, I have no idea what your problem is, but I use thunar and I like it better.
[13:22] <snowrichard> snowgames.in www.snowgames.in *.snowgames.in seems to work now
[13:22] <oriez> -rwxrwxr-x
[13:22] <warefare> anyone got an idea what I can do when Ubuntu AUTO changes my /etc/mtab overflow size to 1MB
[13:22] <usr13> doc_b: Are you fully updated?  If not:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:22] <warefare> I need tmp to be larger or I get probs
[13:23] <doc_b> usr13: yes and yes
[13:23] <warefare> or should I use /etc/fstab for that
[13:23] <ubuntu__> HI im missing 700 gb, and im getting boot error when starting, no such drive....... any1 know?-__-
[13:23] <doc_b> usr13: just not to 13.04
[13:23] <budhi-D> im updated up i can find out how to update my grapics card..
[13:23] <budhi-D> its an amd radeon something
[13:24] <snowrichard> i've got driver issues with my amd radion hd3000, can't get sound on the hdmi.
[13:24] <budhi-D> i hade that on windows lol
[13:24] <budhi-D> is there a way to update it tough?
[13:24] <snowrichard> but the raspberry pi works with sound on the hdmi lol
[13:24] <budhi-D> though*
[13:25] <usr13> doc_b: Ok, sorry but I thought seeing what you see might give us a clue, but I see nothing that indicates why files are not being displayed. HOWEVER, I do see an error in the output of ls
[13:25] <usr13> "Input/output error"
[13:26] <usr13> Looks to be a filesystem error.  Is it vfat?
[13:26] <usr13> doc_b:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[13:26] <doc_b> usr13: hard drive is NTFS
[13:26] <sam113101> how do I install skype?
[13:26] <oriez> any one have problem running scripts from nautilus after upgrading to 13.04???
[13:27] <mzaza> Is Ubuntu 13.04 still suffering from slow nautlius, or fix update has been released?
[13:27] <oriez> .sh kind of scripts
[13:27] <usr13> doc_b: Well, again,  "Input/output error" indicates a filesystem error, (usually).  I would plug it into a MS Windows machine and check the filesystem for errors.
[13:28] <warefare> hmm is there any easy way to rebuild fstab? Its always adding 1MB TMP overflow to /etc/mtab
[13:28] <warefare> so strange
[13:28] <usr13> doc_b: Backup any data you don't want to loose first, just copy it to your HD. (via command line.
[13:28] <doc_b> usr13: don't have a windows box handy so I will have to check that another day. (cp -R /source/ /destination)?
[13:29] <usr13> fsck  but backup first
[13:30] <usr13> doc_b: Yes, just use cp
[13:30] <megamanx1978> Ubuntu software center will not install packages when I click on the install button
[13:30] <usr13> megamanx1978: What error do you get?
[13:31] <onr> software center is kinda buggy on my system too
[13:31] <usr13> megamanx1978: just use apt-get
[13:31] <nfisher> Hi all! i have a problem with using compiz; in #compiz no one could help me thus far, so i figured maybe someone knows this issue: my Window-buttons are deranged when Compiz is activated. See Picture: http://i.imgur.com/5QA8TqJ.png any suggesstions how to fix that?
[13:31] <usr13> cut to the chase
[13:31] <Paul_> Hello everyone. How are we?
[13:31] <cuddylier> hi
[13:31] <NePtUnO> regards
[13:31] <mzaza> usr13: Have you tried 13.04 yet?
[13:31] <usr13> mzaza: no
[13:32] <usr13> I'm a LTS'er
[13:32] <BluesKaj_> megamanx1978, make sure you have the pertinent repositories/sources enabled for the packages you want
[13:32] <Paul_> I was in #ubuntu-beginners but no ones alive in there. I've got a simple question if someone would be kind enough
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> Paul_  let's hear it
[13:32] <usr13> "LTS is Happiness"
[13:33] <mzaza> usr13: I think i'll have to switch to an LTS too, 13.04 is so buggy.
[13:33] <mzaza> usr13: :D
[13:33] <usr13> malkauns: It'll be better later.
[13:33] <Paul_> What are the main differences between the "desktop" and "server" versions of 12.04 LTS?
[13:33] <georgi> is there 13.10 version already?
[13:33] <usr13> Paul_: X
[13:33] <georgi> is there 13.10 version already?
[13:33] <usr13> Paul_: ubuntu-desktop
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Paul_  other default packages installed, other partitioning, no grpahical DE by default
[13:33] <yeats> !13.10 | georgi
[13:34] <yeats> georgi: but it's not available yet - give it a week or so
[13:34] <DJones> Paul_: Server doesn't have any GUI pre-installed and is aimed at people running a server of some form, desktop is for people running a home machine
[13:34] <georgi> ok
[13:34] <usr13> Paul_: In other words, server does not have X installed
[13:34] <georgi> where can I check if it is available
[13:35] <usr13> georgi: Do you know what the date is?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> georgi  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucyReleaseSchedule
[13:35] <georgi> 27
[13:35] <megamanx1978> I checked and the repos are enabled
[13:35] <usr13> georgi: 13.10 is 2013 October
[13:35] <Paul_> So if you're starting with Ubuntu, you aren't limited package-wise by using desktop?
[13:36] <yeats> Paul_: nope
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> megamanx1978, do get any errors ?
[13:36] <georgi> I meant the alpha version usr13
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> do you rather
[13:36] <yeats> georgi: even alphas won't be available for a while
[13:36] <DJones> Paul_: You can run a server from either server or desktop editions, or you can install server and then add a desktop
[13:36] <georgi> is it possible may?
[13:36] <megamanx1978> When I click on install nothing happens
[13:37] <yeats> georgi: no idea - just know that it's too early to ask ;-)
[13:37] <georgi> ok
[13:37] <georgi> thanks
[13:37] <usr13> georgi: /join #ubuntu+1
[13:37] <DJones> georgi: If you want to ask about 13.10 please ask in #ubuntu+1 although this early in the release cycle, there's probably not much available yet
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> now there's an eager ubuntu user
[13:37] <Paul_> Alright cool. Thanks for the info! Have a good one guys :)
[13:37] <georgi> I am there
[13:37] <georgi> and asking
[13:37] <megamanx1978> When packages does ubuntu software center need to work properly?
[13:38] <usr13> megamanx1978: apt-get
[13:38] <usr13> megamanx1978: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[13:39] <usr13> megamanx1978: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:39] <georgi> ok djones
[13:39] <usr13> megamanx1978: Let us know if you encounter errors.
[13:40] <mbp> +j
[13:41] <megamanx1978> But apt-get wont work for paid packages in the ubuntu software center, I am using 12.04, & synaptic works fine
[13:41] <fanbetastic> installed ubuntu flawlessly on my dekstop. Now i wanted to install it on my laptop Asus G74. When i proceed to choose country i get a popup saying "the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in LVM has failed" any of you guys had any problems with that? 13.04 btw
[13:41] <eos__> MonkeyDust: can yu do simultaneous posting?
[13:42] <usr13> megamanx1978: Did you do:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  ?
[13:42] <BluesKaj_> megamanx1978, is the package manager locked up ? , if so open a terminal and enter this , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:42] <usr13> megamanx1978: synaptic works fine?
[13:44] <Neozonz> for a 512MB server how much should i set swap to, and how much % should i configure swappiness too?
[13:44] <Neozonz> are there any recommendations
[13:44] <usr13> Neozonz: You have 512M of RAM?
[13:44] <Neozonz> user__, yes vps
[13:45] <piotr> Hey, I have a problem with 13.04, when I did /etc/init.d/networking restart, Gnome 3 crashed, and system now start up with console mode
[13:45] <dank101> Hi
[13:46] <dank101> what is the best nvidia driver for steam?
[13:46] <dank101> or do i use trial and error
[13:46] <megamanx1978> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade command has no errors and yes synaptic works fine
[13:47] <BluesKaj_> dank101, whatever driver works well with compiz for 3d and DIR
[13:47] <dank101> BluesKaj_, how do i see
[13:47] <BluesKaj_> dank101, probly the nvidia-current
[13:48] <dank101> BluesKaj_, OK!
[13:48] <BluesKaj_> dank101, alt+F2 , additional drivers or jockey id gnome/unity uses that
[13:48] <BluesKaj_> if
[13:48] <usr13> Neozonz: swappiness=10  is just a suggestion, it's up to you.
[13:49] <Neozonz> usr13, how much should i set swapspace to?
[13:49] <Neozonz> user__, it's currently 1GB
[13:49] <Neozonz> *usr13
[13:49] <usr13> Neozonz: You can change it at any time.
[13:49] <usr13> Neozonz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[13:49] <megamanx1978> Is there a website where I can download the ubuntu software center packages that I paid for?
[13:50] <mbp> ?
[13:50] <usr13> megamanx1978: What did you pay for?
[13:50] <mbp> yeah
[13:50] <BluesKaj_> Neozonz, are you using a swap partition or a swap file ?
[13:50] <Neozonz> BlueEagle, not sure atm
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> megamanx1978  this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[13:51] <usr13> Neozonz: sudo fdisk -l
[13:51] <megamanx1978> Bastion and about a dozen other games
[13:51] <usr13> Neozonz: Ctrl-Alt-F6  and do sudo fdisk -l
[13:52] <dank101> Which Jockey driver works the best
[13:53] <Neozonz> BluesKaj_, looks like a partition
[13:53] <BluesKaj_> dank101, the one that is recommended
[13:53] <dank101> BluesKaj_, i can't get GUI jockey
[13:53] <dank101> it just doesn't give me a app option
[13:55] <usr13> Neozonz: The default value for swappiness is probably just fine.  I wouldn't worry about it too much.
[13:56] <erdinc> hi guys
[13:56] <megamanx1978> Yes that site ty
[13:56] <usr13> Neozonz: As along as you have a swap partition as large or little larger than RAM size, you should be just fine.
[13:56] <BluesKaj_> dank101, then try additional drivers
[13:56] <erdinc> anyone using xubuntu 13.04?
[13:56] <usr13> erdinc: Advise: Just ask your question.
[13:56] <Neozonz> usr13, i don't see a seperate swap partition, i see one partition at 20gb
[13:57] <erdinc> how to edit desktop icons range?
[13:57] <usr13> Neozonz: Have you completed the install?
[13:57] <Neozonz> usr13, yes currenly on a vps
[13:57] <usr13> Neozonz: vps?
[13:57] <usr13> It is a virtual private server?
[13:57] <Neozonz> usr13, yes
[13:58] <usr13> Neozonz: And you did the install?
[13:58] <Neozonz> usr13, the host presets it up
[13:58] <Neozonz> from a template
[13:58] <usr13> Neozonz: But it gives you an option to set swappiness?
[13:59] <usr13> Neozonz: What server are you using?
[13:59] <Neozonz> usr13, ubuntu on rackspace
[13:59] <usr13> Well, I dono
[14:00] <Anti-S1eep> Greetings.
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> Neozonz  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[14:00] <Neozonz> thanks
[14:01] <statua> ciao a tutti
[14:01] <statua> !lista
[14:05] <red22> I am trying to upgrade from12.10 to 13.04..  I have the ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso copied on my disk.  My internet connection is very slow so is there some way I can add that iso as a valid source for updates/upgrading please?
[14:06] <minas> red22, what do you mean add it as an update source?
[14:06] <red22> I read a completely offline upgrade isn't possible to 13.04, and that is ok... I just want to be able to take advantage of not having to download what is already available on the iso...
[14:07] <mank319> hey there
[14:07] <minas> red22, oh, you have the ISO but you want to upgrade, not do a clean install. How fast is your connection?
[14:07] <red22> minas, yeah, as a source for ubuntu to see as valid for upgrading to 13.04
[14:07] <mank319> usb startup disk creator fails when trying to install ubuntu 12.01 server
[14:07] <mank319> it will fail installing the bootloader
[14:08] <mank319> not earlier
[14:08] <mank319> cant i just take grub from another bootable system then?
[14:08] <mank319> or
[14:08] <red22> minas, The iso took like 2 days to download.. Power outages and all.. So I would really like to avoid that again ;)
[14:08] <mank319> let me reformulate my question
[14:09] <mank319> if i create a bootable installation of lets say ubuntu desktop can i just "add" ubntu server and use the other ones bootloader
[14:09] <minas> red22, oh, that slow :) Well, I don't know the solution to what you are asking for, sorry.
[14:09] <John_m> mank319, i think yes
[14:10] <mank319> well it didnt work out
[14:10] <mank319> he asked me again to type pwd for installing bootloader :(
[14:10] <mank319> and i declined
[14:10] <mank319> or should i have tried it hoping that it'd recognize the already existant grub?
[14:10] <usr13> red22: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[14:11] <red22> minas, ok no prob thanks for trying!  somehow i think ubuntu should just recognize the official iso and ask me if I want to upgrade or add as a source at least  from it when I double click :/
[14:11] <mank319> one last try :D
[14:12] <red22> usr13, let me check it out... but I believe I have read that and a great many pages without finding what I need... thanks for link, will let you know in a few minutes.
[14:12] <John_m> mank319, u need manual add settings for server in /boot/grub/menu.lst, u try it? and why desktop grub can install and server not?
[14:12] <minas> red22, yeah , that would be a good thing. If your pc is a laptop, you could go to a place with fast internet (but I guess would have done it, so it must be a desktop)
[14:13] <lomo7> hey, i have asrock 970 extreme 4, how do i install its drivers for ubuntu?
[14:13] <Guker> hello everyone~
[14:13] <usr13> red22: Burn the ISO to CD and boot to it.
[14:13] <red22> minas, it's like a 50 lb server-case-handmedown of a desktop too ;)
[14:13] <usr13> red22: or to USB stick.
[14:15] <mank319> well for some reason
[14:15] <mank319> this time it worked out
[14:15] <mank319> strange
[14:15] <red22> usr13: I have it on usb stick and I booted from it... And while some web pages says there should be an option to "upgrade to 13.04" somewhere.. I just get the regular clean install options or custom install via format/partition/etc...  What am I not seeing or doing wrong?
[14:15] <fyksen> I have just installed Ubuntu 13.04. And I can't change the mouse sensitivity. In the "mouse settings" I only got the doubbletap optoin. Here is my mouse setting screen. (in norwegian) http://imgur.com/2yJWD5I
[14:16] <mank319> maybe because of the already existand bootloader
[14:16] <mank319> well
[14:16] <mank319> have fun
[14:16] <FloodBot1> mank319: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  it's in Universal Access, Poiting and Clicking
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[14:19] <fyksen> MonkeyDust, wow. TY.. Have they moved it?
[14:19] <John_m> mank319, you too
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  oh, that simply brings you to Mouse & Touchpad
[14:19] <fyksen> MonkeyDust, Yeah.. It didn't work :/
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  dconf-editor has mouse settings, too
[14:20] <fyksen> MonkeyDust, Where in it?
[14:21] <red22> usr13, minas: any way to add the iso as a local repo for ubuntu software with a higher priority than the online repos?  Then after maybe I can just do the regular update/upgrade procedure..
[14:22] <lomo7> how can i install drivers for ubuntu? sorry for noob q...
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  mousekeys-accel-time, in dconf
[14:22] <lomo7> i have asrock 970
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  dconf-editor, click 'Find' and look for mouse
[14:23] <red22> usr13, minas: the "software sources" settings window says "to install from a cd-rom or dvd, insert the medium into the drive" but no option to select an image from a file... Maybe somehow I can mount the iso as a fake cd so that "software sources" can use the iso?
[14:23] <fyksen> MonkeyDust, thanks. Found it! Is accel time the acceleration?
[14:25] <fyksen> MonkeyDust, okey, I can see that it is the acceleration. But where to set the sensitivity? :)
[14:29] <John_m>  lomo7, what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[14:30] <oriez> any one have problem running scripts from nautilus after upgrading to 13.04???
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> oriez  run in terminal seems to be no longer there
[14:32] <oriez> why???
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> oriez  the gnome people changed a lot in nautilus and not always for the best, IMO
[14:32] <luhpur> hi, i did a a fresh 13.04 install and have problem with flash
[14:33] <hzform> ubuntu12.10 need to upgrade to 13.04?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> hzform  yes, if you want the newest features
[14:35] <Reliant> I'm having a problem where my ethernet connection is on for ~30s, off for ~30s. The only change that's happened is that I had to give my modem/router a factory reset. Is there a setting that could cause something like that?
[14:35] <synnyster> Is there a way to make my grub menu more pretty / graphic? (think OS X boot menu)
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> synnyster  burg
[14:36] <luhpur> flash player doesn't work in 13.04
[14:38] <synnyster> Thanks, MonkeyDust
[14:39] <gray--> i used do-release-upgrade to go from 12.10 to 13.04.  Upgrade went fine, system's fine, working well, but the motd tells me i still need to upgrade… sounds like a little little bug, just wondering if it's worth reporting?
[14:40] <jrib> gray--: output of lsb_release -a?
[14:41] <gray--> No LSB modules are available.
[14:41] <gray--> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[14:41] <gray--> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[14:41] <gray--> Release:	13.04
[14:41] <gray--> Codename:	raring
[14:41] <FloodBot1> gray--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <gray--> (apologies FloodBot1 :) )
[14:42] <jrib> gray--: pastebin what you are actually seeing in your motd?
[14:42] <gray--> sure
[14:43] <synnyster> How do I find where my MBR is installed?
[14:43] <gray--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608646/
[14:43] <jrib> gray--: presumably you've logged in again since the upgrade?
[14:44] <gray--> yeah, lots of times, even tried a reboot (non-critical play-thing VM)
[14:45] <jrib> gray--: cat /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[14:45] <gray--> New release '13.04' available.
[14:45] <gray--> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[14:46] <gray--> what do you reckon jrib ?
[14:47] <jrib> gray--: hmm.  I'm curious what is responsible for clearing that file (you can read /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd to see the script that update-motd ends up executing).
[14:47] <synnyster> How can I remove the old kernels from my 13.04 upgrade?
[14:47] <synnyster> Or even should I?
[14:47] <jrib> synnyster: use your favorite package manager to remove the corresponding linux-image* package.  I'd suggest leaving at least one old kernel around
[14:48] <synnyster> jrib: are any package managers pre installed?
[14:48] <jrib> gray--: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1173209
[14:48] <gray--> aha, good stuff jrib, cheers
[14:49] <jrib> !software | synnyster
[14:49] <Reliant> I've been following http://askubuntu.com/questions/87003/intermittent-internet-connectivity  to troubleshoot my problem. Last time I had this problem, installing the drivers fixed it. Now, right drivers, same problem
[14:50] <jrib> gray--: should be safe to just delete the file; the bug is already reported
[14:51] <jrib> gray--: erm, by "the file" I mean /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[14:51] <gray--> will do, guess it wasn't housekept at the end of the upgrade
[14:52] <pianogmx> when i got the upgrade notification (in kde) , I just clicked it, ran 'sudo apt-get update' and i didn't get a notification afterwords...
[14:53] <pianogmx> but that was after the upgrade from 12.10 -> 13.04 of course...
[14:55] <riddrib> how can make money with ubuntu?
[14:56] <harshadura> lol
[14:56] <harshadura> riddrib: code
[14:58] <kill_box> riddrib tell people on craigslist you'll put osx on their pc for a cool hundo
[14:58] <gray--> could try selling it?
[14:59] <sharif-ubuntu> can u help me
[14:59] <Mangmo> is it allowed to sell ubuntu??
[14:59] <sharif-ubuntu> ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem slove
[14:59] <Mangmo> i mean configuration of ubuntu sure is payable, but just for ubuntu? dont think this works
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Mangmo  if you find someone who's willing to pay for something he can get for free, why not
[15:00] <riddrib> I no sell ubuntu i sell my service
[15:00] <sharif-ubuntu> ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem slove
[15:00] <sharif-ubuntu> any one help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem slove
[15:00] <kill_box> We got a business man here
[15:01] <esing> MonkeyDust, It's called fraud and is a crime, except if the persons installs it for him, then it's called charged service
[15:02] <LLOODD> Wanted to share a new programming forum: http://thedevshed.net/forum/
[15:04] <szekelya> Hi. I bought an Asus U32U-RX400D laptop with 4GB ram to my daughter. I installed 32 bit ubuntu. Will it make a significant difference if I reinstall with the 64 bit version?
[15:04] <Bostoman> szekelya, you won't notice any difference
[15:04] <BluesKaj_> szekelya, no
[15:06] <thubtumbing> szekelya, I wouldn't even recommend it, most applications still are best in a 32bit environment
[15:06] <szekelya> For sure it won't have to addres over 4GB memory. I thought the processor would perform double amount of tasks, but that might be a misbelief.
[15:07] <Bostoman> szekelya, that's indeed a misbelief
[15:07] <Bostoman> 32bit is fine
[15:07] <szekelya> OK, thanks, I wouldn't bother.
[15:08] <OerHeks> szekelya, i would say it runs faster.
[15:08] <dank101> Welp
[15:08] <szekelya> BTW during the normal instllation, and the automatically offered updates, do I get a generic video driver? Do I have to search for a video driver manually for the specific video card?
[15:08] <dank101> i can't find the Additional drivers tab in Settings
[15:10] <szekelya> OerHeks: if it is somewhat faster, but most applications are most stable with their 32 bit version, I wouldn't bother reinstalling. If it is clearly doubling the speed, I consider.
[15:10] <dank101> Anyone?
[15:11] <OerHeks> dank101, it is in software propertys > http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/a-new-interface-for-handling-third.html
[15:12] <dank101> OerHeks, It shows nothing under that tab
[15:12] <OerHeks> dank101, then there would be no driver available, i guess
[15:13] <dank101> OerHeks, BLASPHEMY! i'm on 13.04 on 12.04 it shows nvidia Which i KNOW i have
[15:13] <andrii> HI guys
[15:13] <andrii> can anybody help me ?
[15:13] <Bostoman> hi andrii
[15:13] <Bostoman> maybe
[15:13] <andrii> I've just installed XUbuntu 13.04
[15:13] <DJones> !ask | andrii
[15:14] <andrii> and install the skype
[15:14] <dank101> !xubuntu ! andrii
[15:14] <dank101> !xubuntu | andrii
[15:14] <andrii> ok , ubuntu with xfce4 interface
[15:15] <andrii> but skype doesn't work
[15:15] <andrii> all times I get crush reports
[15:15] <Bostoman> how so doesn't work?
[15:15] <Bostoman> be more precise please
[15:15] <dank101> andrii, 13.004
[15:15] <dank101> Bostoman, i see what you did there
[15:15] <dank101> or i'm just a big nerd
[15:16] <andrii> cat /etc/issue --> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:16] <Bostoman> ?
[15:16] <Cantide> is anyone having trouble running 13.04 in a VM? I'm just getting  a black screen but it's running in the background ,_,
[15:17] <dank101> Cantide, Drivers
[15:17] <johnjohn1011> cantide. i am running 13.04 in vmware. perfecto
[15:17] <dank101> install guest addons from emergency terminal
[15:17] <Cantide> i can access the terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+t (it has no window decorations though)
[15:17] <Cantide> what packages exactly do i need to install?
[15:18] <dank101> Cantide, what VM software
[15:18] <Cantide> virtualbox
[15:18] <dank101> Ah
[15:18] <vivekagr> I'm changing the touchpad pointer speed but it isn't saving and gets back to the default value every time. Am I doing something wrong?
[15:18] <Cantide> i downloaded the latest version today and installed the extension pack
[15:18] <dank101> install guest addons
[15:18] <dank101> using terminal
[15:18] <Cantide> where? in the terminal?
[15:18] <dank101> yes
[15:18] <Cantide> what's the package name?
[15:19] <dank101> try to open Nautilus from terminal
[15:20] <Cantide> yeah, that works
[15:20] <dank101> go to the settings of virualbox and put in the guest addons disk
[15:20] <Cantide> ah, i see
[15:21] <dank101> Does nvidia-current work with GeForce 555M
[15:22] <dank101> jockey does NOT want to run
[15:22] <Cantide> i don't see a setting for that ._.
[15:22] <dank101> Cantide, its in the top, near disks
[15:23] <Cantide> still not seeing it...
[15:23] <dank101> hold on
[15:24] <dank101> i havn't used virualbox since 12.04
[15:24] <jmnoz> how can I configure mpd to be able to access my ~/music when my ~ is encrypted using ecryptfs?
[15:24] <yeats> !info virtualbox-guest-x11 | Cantide dank101
[15:25] <Cantide> thanks, yeats :)
[15:25] <Cantide> oh.. what ppa do i need to add for that, yeats ?
[15:26] <dank101> Cantide, none
[15:26] <dank101> Can someone answer my question
[15:26] <fris> anyone know of a ppa with php 5.4.14 for ubuntu 13.04
[15:27] <dank101> does nvidia-current version 304.88 work with GeForce 555M
[15:27] <Cantide> it can't find the package "virtualbox-guest-x11"
[15:27] <Cantide> :'(
[15:27] <ipotato> anyone else having graphics problems once upgraded to 13.04?
[15:28] <dank101> ipotato, the only issue i have is me being to paranoid to install nvidia drivers
[15:28] <vilgax> where does gnome-contact store its data?
[15:29] <lorddune> Hello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[15:29] <lorddune> i discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.
[15:29] <lorddune> can anyone explain why this is happening and suggest a possible solution?
[15:29] <dank101> lorddune, thats pretty silly
[15:29] <dank101> it's linux after all
[15:29] <lorddune> dank101: and why is that silly?
[15:30] <ipotato> 12.10 worked fine for me, but with 13.04 I get repeating patterns or colored pixels at the top of the screen. So the desktop is loading but I can't see or do anything
[15:30] <dank101> ipotato, what Grapics card
[15:30] <lorddune> dank101: you do not have to answer a question with a SMART-ASS remark, dank101
[15:31] <Cantide> oooh, now i see, dank101 :) thanks :)
[15:31] <dank101> lorddune, it wasn't... please be nice
[15:31] <lorddune> this is a serious problem I am having, and Tiger is a process of auditing files / security that is built into the Linux kernal
[15:31] <vilgax> why ubuntu added gnome-contact in 13.04? its almost useless to the point that i can't delete contact i have added.
[15:31] <ipotato> it's an ivy bridge integrated card pentium g2020
[15:31] <dank101> ipotato,  i think installing the intel drivers which i think just came out should fix it
[15:31] <lorddune> dank101: so your remark that is it "Silly" is immature and doesn't help me
[15:32] <dank101> lorddune, ...
[15:32] <betrayd> lorddune: start exploring /etc/cron and subdirs
[15:32] <dank101> i need to reboot
[15:32] <dank101> i got the drivers
[15:32] <pianogmx> someone call for a donkey?
[15:32] <ipotato> is there a way to do it from the console
[15:34] <betrayd> lorddune: do not leave out /etc/crontab if it exists
[15:34] <lorddune> betrayd: Tiger is the apparent culprit. It is a command that runs at the same time every night (1 am).
[15:34] <betrayd> lorddune yes but did you see it show that cmd
[15:35] <betrayd> in Tiger
[15:35] <lorddune> betrayd: yes betrayd
[15:35] <betrayd> in /etc/where
[15:35] <ipotato> How do I install the latest intel graphics drivers from the terminal?
[15:36] <lorddune> betrayd: I located the source of checkmd5sum and it was only in Tiger
[15:37] <betrayd> not that, but you could delete that lorddune
[15:37] <Bostoman> lorddune, but is there a cronjob configured?
[15:37] <lorddune> betrayd: it's part of the Linux kernel
[15:37] <betrayd> we are looking for the cronjob line lorddune
[15:37] <lomo7> how do i run .run file in ubuntu?
[15:37] <lomo7> with superuser privileges?
[15:38] <lomo7> i'm trying to install amd gpu..
[15:38] <betrayd> lorddune: like Bostoman said
[15:38] <KI4RO> If I remotely update/upgrade a system then do a reboot on that system is there a way to get back on it?
[15:38] <lomo7> it says.. - To start driver installation, just run <...>-installer-<...>.run. You have to do this with superuser privileges.
[15:39] <Bostoman> lomo7, a hidden file to be executed?
[15:39] <lorddune> betrayd: and how exactly do I display this cronjob line
[15:39] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, I believe it's sudo ./filename.run
[15:39] <betrayd> lorddune: start exploring /etc/cron and subdirs
[15:40] <Bostoman> lorddune, crontab -l
[15:41] <jakobbg> Hi. I just migrated from linode x86 to x64-kernel, and after having done a reinstall of oracle java, executing "java" just says /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory - even though the file exists. what can i do to fix this?
[15:41] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: i get command not found..
[15:41] <jakobbg> (reinstall of oracle java performed to get 64-bit java version, which was downloaded and installed)
[15:41] <Bostoman> lomo7, do it from the directory in which the file is and make sure that file has execute per;issions
[15:42] <lorddune> Bostoman: 'no crontab for <username>
[15:42] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239797
[15:42] <fris> anyone have a working ppa for 5.4.14 for ubuntu 13.04
[15:43] <Bostoman> lorddune, and you get the same for sudo crontab -l
[15:43] <fris> i get this when trying to install php5-cli
[15:43] <fris> php5-cli : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.14-1~ppa1~raring) but 5.4.14-1~quantal+1 is to be installed
[15:43] <jakobbg> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java exists ("-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7.6K Apr 27 17:24 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java"), but trying to execute /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java says "-bash: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory" ... what gives!?
[15:43] <lorddune> Bostoman: correct, no crontab for root either
[15:43] <fris> the php5 package worked fine, just the cli one has an issue
[15:43] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: Thx! :)
[15:44] <fris> using this one https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ppa
[15:44] <Bostoman> lorddune, what's in /etc/cron.daily ?
[15:46] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, thank me if your install works :)
[15:48] <vilgax> missing menu bar in some application like nautilus, mahjong etc after upgrading to ubuntu 13.04 and removing indicator-appmenu to get rid off global menu bar
[15:48] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: ;) it says.. fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[15:48] <lomo7> from log file..
[15:49] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, ahh , so you downloaded the fglrx driver from ati , why not use the fglrx driver in the repos it comes with the proper headers
[15:50] <goonface> lomo7: sAy WhAt
[15:51] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: u mean to the cd? i don't have cd
[15:51] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, the package manager reposiotories /sources.list
[15:52] <UKBeastieGirl> Hello everyone
[15:52] <goonface> Unity is a hog. KDE is smooth
[15:52] <UKBeastieGirl> quick question, new to Ubuntu and I want to get my photos/music from Windows 7 over to my Ubunru
[15:52] <UKBeastieGirl> how do I do that
[15:53] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl, just copy the files
[15:53] <UKBeastieGirl> I cant see my windows files though
[15:53] <UKBeastieGirl> from Ubuntu
[15:53] <ignacio> hello
[15:53] <goonface> UKBeastieGirl: just mount drive or partition
[15:53] <UKBeastieGirl> where?
[15:54] <JasonGriffee> What would cause this: "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."?
[15:54] <UKBeastieGirl> I have been at it for 3 hours and I cant find where I would need to mount the windows folders
[15:54] <johnjohn1011> UKBeastieGirl: are you doing a dual boot or are they seperate machines?
[15:54] <aleks_> Good morning I have a problem with my wireless connection
[15:54] <UKBeastieGirl> dual boot
[15:54] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl, sudo fdisk -l
[15:54] <aleks_> can some help me?
[15:54] <Bostoman> see what partition is your windows
[15:55] <UKBeastieGirl> Where?
[15:55] <Bostoman> in a terminal
[15:55] <Bostoman> open a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l
[15:55] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: i'm pretty noob with ubuntu.. 1st time install
[15:55] <UKBeastieGirl> lol
[15:55] <lorddune> Bostoman: i looked at that folder, doesn't seem to be anything out of the ordinary, should I list all the files (about 15)
[15:56] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, open the software center and look for the ati-fglrx or vairiations on that
[15:56] <dank101-welp> WELP
[15:56] <Bostoman> lorddune, no need to, look in the other /etc/cron* folders as well
[15:56] <UKBeastieGirl> Why can I not see them direct in a file manager?
[15:56] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl, you need to mount them first... weŕe getting there :)
[15:56] <dank101-welp> i installed nvidia drivers and now unity won't loas
[15:57] <Gnea> dank101-welp: hopefully you didn't install them direct from nvidia.com
[15:57] <dank101-welp> Gnea, i got from the package nvidia current
[15:57] <dank101-welp> i can purge it
[15:57] <goonface> Hahaha
[15:57] <dank101-welp> but i REALLY want the drivers
[15:57] <goonface> :)
[15:57] <Gnea> dank101-welp: you can, but that wouldn't really fix the problem
[15:58] <UKBeastieGirl> ok got that up now
[15:58] <Gnea> dank101-welp: of course you do, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to install them in the first place. :-)  what nvidia device do you have, exactly?
[15:58] <Bostoman> so what device partition is your windows?
[15:58] <UKBeastieGirl> im assuming its going to be in dev/sda3 right?
[15:59] <TrD> hi
[15:59] <UKBeastieGirl> thats the biggest drive, where all my files are
[15:59] <JasonGriffee> Need assist with ndis wrapper
[15:59] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl, could be.... the one listed as NTFS probably is the winner
[15:59] <goonface> Gnea: you said that?
[15:59] <dank101-welp> i have a 555M GeForce
[15:59] <Gnea> goonface: do you have an ubuntu-related question?
[15:59] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: No items match "ati-fglrx"
[15:59] <goonface> Lol lol
[15:59] <UKBeastieGirl> saytem for sda 1 and 2 are NTFS/exFAT
[15:59] <UKBeastieGirl> and sda3 is extended
[15:59] <Gnea> !attitude | goonface
[16:00] <goonface> She needs to look on the left side of the file manager and mount the partition by double clicking it
[16:00] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, fglrx then
[16:00] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl, you need to decode in which folder you want to mount the files
[16:00] <dank101-welp> Anyone
[16:00] <dank101-welp> help
[16:00] <UKBeastieGirl> LOL
[16:00] <Bostoman> decode = decide
[16:00] <dank101-welp> it won't load opengl
[16:00] <Gnea> dank101-welp: I am trying to help, please don't push.  What is the output of this command: lspci | grep VGA
[16:00] <dank101-welp> ccsm isn't helping
[16:00] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl,  something like /media/windows is a good choice :)
[16:00] <lorddune> Bostoman: really nothing other than placeholder, 0anacron, man-db, and apt-xapian-index
[16:00] <UKBeastieGirl> Way over my head :P
[16:01] <dank101-welp> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:01] <dank101-welp> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF116M [GeForce GT 550M] (rev a1)
[16:01] <nyuszika7h> hi, I'd like to disable the nVIDIA logo, but I haven't got an /etc/Xorg.conf{,.d} - what's the proper way to do it?
[16:01] <dank101-welp> Gnea
[16:01] <ozcanesen> hey i whitelisted all indicator apps with setting 'all' and logout/login. but still can't see indicators. any advice?
[16:01] <UKBeastieGirl> i just want my music in the music folder :P
[16:01] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: found 1 result: ATI binary X.Org driver
[16:01] <johnjohn1011> UKBeastieGirl: if you want to follow Bostoman:  here is a good site to follow  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/auto-mount-windows-ntfs-partitions-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[16:01] <Gnea> dank101-welp: so you have 2 video cards
[16:01] <UKBeastieGirl> and my pics in the pic folder
[16:01] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: do u know if you installed it
[16:01] <dank101-welp> Gnea, yes one intergraded
[16:02] <UKBeastieGirl> and the easiest way possible.
[16:02] <Gnea> dank101-welp: are you using the integrated one?
[16:02] <UKBeastieGirl> I know some geek speak :P but this is all foreign to me
[16:02] <lorddune> Bostoman: the issue I have begins at 1 am every night and ends about 30-40 minutes later every day. The research I did led me to believe it was Tiger running a security / audit check at that time evry day.
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, what about just fglrx ?
[16:02] <dank101-welp> Gnea was, until i got the driver
[16:02] <Bostoman> UKBeastieGirl, indeed the site that johnjohn1011 gave explains it all step by step :D
[16:02] <JasonGriffee> betrayed: I followed the instruction @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[16:02] <UKBeastieGirl> Thank You :)
[16:02] <Gnea> dank101-welp: let me rephrase: do you plan on using the intel AND nvidia cards together on multiple displays?
[16:02] <Bostoman> lorddune, well that sounds like a cronjob but so far o cronjob has been found so itś weird
[16:03] <dank101-welp> Gnea, no this is a laptop anyway
[16:03] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: how old is that page, are you positive you still need ndiswrapper
[16:03] <johnjohn1011> UKBeastieGirl:  linux doesn't have the concept of drives like windows.  what the mount command does is to make the ntfs drive look like a folder.
[16:03] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: I followed the instruction @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[16:03] <f3e> How do i connect Wired Connection 1 with 2?
[16:03] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: how old is that page, are you positive you still need ndiswrapper
[16:03] <Gnea> dank101-welp: okay, so how do you have an integrated intel and then an nvidia on a laptop together? what interface did you use to plug the nvidia in?
[16:04] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: found 1 result: ATI binary X.Org driver - for fglrx
[16:04] <dank101-welp> Gnea, i made dell put it in
[16:04] <nyuszika7h> Gnea: it's called nVIDIA Optimus, I think
[16:04] <dank101-welp> payed extra
[16:04] <dank101-welp> it's openGL is not enabled
[16:04] <betrayd> lorddune/ Bostoman it could be on the tiger side of things isn't tiger *nix
[16:04] <yoojin> How can I reinstall X and nvidia drivers and remove the configuration files, returning those elements to stock? My ubuntu installation is REALLY whacked because of an update i tried to do to install Nvidia319
[16:04] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: I have no Idea, I just know that my wireless isn't working.
[16:04] <dank101-welp> and ccsm won't let me
[16:04] <nyuszika7h> dank101-welp: you should install Bumblebee then run OpenGL apps with optirun / primusrun
[16:05] <Gnea> it's "paid" not "payed", and the optimus is a special variant that the standard driver doesn't support
[16:05] <Bostoman> not familiar with tiger...
[16:05] <dank101-welp> Gnea, i have a optimus?
[16:05] <Bostoman> but it could indeed be something scheduled inside the tiger service
[16:05] <Bostoman> but then I guess you need to be able to configure it
[16:05] <Gnea> dank101-welp: it should be spelled out in the documentation that dell sent
[16:06] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, install mesa-utils , then open a terminal and copy and paste this into it , glxinfo | grep OpenGL , then paste here what the version string line is.from the resulting output .
[16:06] <dank101-welp> Gnea i don't have one
[16:06] <Gnea> dank101-welp: they didn't send documentation?
[16:06] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: It mentions Quetzal, so it can't be that old.
[16:06] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: also have ndisgtk?
[16:06] <dank101-welp> Gnea no, it's not a optimus
[16:06] <Gnea> dank101-welp: okay, what's the service tag?
[16:06] <dank101-welp> it's compiz being a conflicting b**ch
[16:06] <Gnea> it is?
[16:06] <JasonGriffee> betrayd, Yes, that's the package I downloaded.
[16:07] <lorddune> Bostoman: there is also a cron.d folder, and I noticed "John" and "Tiger" in there. Could either of those be the causes?
[16:07] <momin90909> Hi everyone
[16:07] <dank101-welp> ccsm won't save my settings
[16:07] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: it doesn't fail to load though?
[16:07] <dank101-welp> To enable unity OpenGL and expo
[16:07] <Gnea> dank101-welp: I really don't care about ccsm, I want you to answer my questions,, please.
[16:07] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: the app comes up nicely
[16:07] <betrayd> ?
[16:07] <dank101-welp> Gnea Thats my issue
[16:07] <JasonGriffee> yes
[16:08] <momin90909> I have bought VPS with 256mb RAM, With Ubuntu 12.04 CLI only
[16:08] <dank101-welp> i shot it
[16:08] <dank101-welp> i KNOW the issue
[16:08] <momin90909> i want to install gui on it
[16:08] <JasonGriffee> it comes up
[16:08] <dank101-welp> but it won't let me FIX it
[16:08] <momin90909> How can I do it
[16:08] <JasonGriffee> install driver, hardware found
[16:08] <JasonGriffee> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[16:08] <Gnea> dank101-welp: well if you know the issue, then you should know the answer and you don't need to ask for help.
[16:09] <dank101-welp> Gnea, it won't let me fix it
[16:09] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: is that from the gtk tool?
[16:09] <Gnea> dank101-welp: that's because you're not answering my questions, getting too frustrated
[16:09] <JasonGriffee> no, terminal
[16:09] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: he may have moved it already
[16:09] <dank101-welp> when i enable stuff in ccsm it disables it
[16:09] <johnjohn1011> dank101-welp: if something won't save, it could be a permissions issue. can you run ccsm as root maybe?
[16:09] <shocker> guys, im new to linux.. is there any way to overclock my cpu within linux.. im using ubuntu 13.04
[16:09] <lorddune> Bostoman: in the daily cron there is the following: 0anacron, apport, apt, bsdmainutils, chlrootkit, debtags, dpkg, google-chrome, google-earth, logrotate, man-db, mlocate, ntp, passwd, popularity-contest, samba, standard, update-notifier-common and .placeholder
[16:10] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: but ndisgtk registers no complaints, try that comand in terminal without &
[16:10] <Gnea> dank101-welp: well as I said, I don't care about ccsm. It has nothing to do with the actual problem.
[16:10] <OerHeks> dank101-welp, me too thinks you have optimus.
[16:10] <dank101-welp> johnjohn1011 yes
[16:10] <nyuszika7h> Current status: 227 updates [+227], 2054 new [+179].
[16:10] <yoojin> nvidia-319 broke my installation, If somebody knows how I can roll back to an earlier version, reinstall and wipe any graphics related configurations files, that would make me very grateful.
[16:10] <nyuszika7h> err
[16:10] <nyuszika7h> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the base-files package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[16:10] <nyuszika7h> E: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download
[16:11] <dank101-welp> K
[16:11] <dank101-welp> i fixed it
[16:11] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: what command
[16:11] <Bostoman> lorddune, what is in /etc/crontab ?
[16:11] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: ndisgtk in a terminal
[16:11] <johnjohn1011> dank101-welp: what did you do?
[16:11] <dank101-welp> reseting compiz settings and enabling what i needed fixed it
[16:11] <Gnea> dank101-welp: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html  <-- your card supports optimus
[16:11] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: so we can look at messages from it
[16:11] <Gnea> dank101-welp: good.
[16:12] <JasonGriffee> pops-up, no error
[16:12] <Gnea> so the driver was fine, but you decided to skip that part and went onto compiz
[16:12] <momin90909> I would like to get GUI on VPS, how can I do it
[16:13] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: is the window still there, see what it says when you pick 'install ndiswrapper'
[16:13] <lorddune> Bostoman: that folder does not exist as far as I can tell
[16:13] <lorddune> Bostoman: erm directory rather
[16:13] <Bostoman> it's a file
[16:14] <Bostoman> so try sudo cat /etc/crontab
[16:14] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: ndiswrapper-common?
[16:14] <betrayd> is that from ndisgtk JasonGriffee
[16:14] <betrayd> still in terminal right?
[16:15] <lorddune> Bostoman: basically just has the commands to run the 4 cron folders
[16:15] <dank101-welp> does bumblebee work with steam games
[16:15] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: we want to see its reaction
[16:15] <Bostoman> ok
[16:15] <vic> how can i unlock a modem
[16:15] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: I installed ndisgtk, wouldn't that be a dependancy?
[16:15] <padhu> Ubuntians, i need terminal calculator little bit more feature than bc for some scientific calculation and memory is must
[16:15] <lomo7> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[16:15] <lomo7> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)
[16:15] <lomo7> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0.3
[16:15] <lomo7> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
[16:15] <lomo7> OpenGL extensions:
[16:15] <FloodBot1> lomo7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <Gnea> vic: unlock how? what modem?
[16:16] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: had you not installed the 3 packages listed on that website
[16:16] <lomo7> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[16:16] <lomo7> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)
[16:16] <lomo7> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0.3
[16:16] <lomo7> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
[16:16] <lomo7> OpenGL extensions:
[16:16] <FloodBot1> lomo7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: oops
[16:16] <Gnea> !pastebin | lomo7
[16:16] <vic> gnea: huawei, its network locked
[16:16] <lorddune> Bostoman: has these 2 lines > SHELL=/bin/sh,  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin, and the 4 cron command lines
[16:16] <pmantis> Hi guys. I upgrade my desktop with an ATI video card from 12.10 to 13.04. Then had low graphics mode. Tried to reset Xorg (delete config, reboot). I have a graphical session now, but unity won't load. No menu, no window decorations, etc. Ideas?
[16:17] <lomo7> BluesKaj_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609009/
[16:17] <Bostoman> lorddune, hmmmmm I think you need to look in tiger's configuration somewhere
[16:17] <Gnea> vic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei
[16:17] <betrayd> JasonGriffee:  -common, -utils, and ndisgtk
[16:17] <padhu> pmantis: try with stable version driver
[16:18] <vic> Gnea: checking
[16:18] <pmantis> padhu, I've removed the ATI card now, and back to Intel on-board for now. Reinstalling the ATI drivers failed on DKMS.
[16:19] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: -common is newest version -utils was replaced by common, ndisgtk is installed.
[16:20]  * pmantis should have uninstalled theATI drivers prior to upgrade.. Can't uninstall, the uninstallation fails with a "files changed since installation" message.
[16:20] <vic> Gnea: that link dont have the information i need
[16:20] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: so run ndisgtk in a terminal and pick install common fomr it, we can monitor its progress on both the window and terminal
[16:21] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: what are you talking about?
[16:21] <dank101-welp> i'm going to reboot
[16:21] <dank101-welp> and if these drivers don't work
[16:21] <dank101-welp> i will kill something
[16:21] <Bostoman> dinner time
[16:22] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: u asked earlier betrayd: ndiswrapper-common?
[16:22] <BluesKaj_> lomo7, I'm not sure then which ati driver you need , perhaps someone with an ati card or more ati experience can help you , I have to leave , so good luck.
[16:23] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: I tryed installing that, said had latest version.
[16:23] <betrayd> which is good
[16:24] <betrayd> it's smart enough
[16:24] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: so what's my problem?
[16:25] <bitdealer> anyone up for a noob question?
[16:25] <betrayd> where did it put them, try a dpkg-query -L pacakgename
[16:25] <Aww> bitdealer, sure
[16:25] <thubtumbing> bitdealer, shoot
[16:25] <betrayd> JasonGriffee but ndisgtk knows where they are
[16:25] <bitdealer> thx. new to iinux trying to install opencl/
[16:26] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: so, what do I do next?
[16:26] <bitdealer> thought i could figure out linux,. HAH
[16:26] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: what we are after is to copy them to the right place .. might be like
[16:26] <daniel> help
[16:27] <daniel> i got unity to work
[16:27] <thubtumbing> congrats
[16:27] <daniel> but now my resulution is shit
[16:27] <bitdealer> I think I got pyopencl and wxpython but don't know how to check
[16:27] <dank101> so bad unity is cut off
[16:27] <dank101> how do i fix?
[16:28] <bitdealer> 13.04
[16:28] <dank101> and settings won't help
[16:28] <pmantis> Is there a way to have Ubuntu re-detect displays and inputs and rebuild the X config?
[16:28] <bitdealer> new to irc too so sorry for stepping on toes
[16:29] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: might be someplace like /lib/modules
[16:29] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: command?
[16:29] <walter_> quien me puede ayudar a instalar LAMP Server en Xubuntu 12.10
[16:29] <thubtumbing> bitdealer, so you can't install opencl? or does it do strange things?
[16:29] <auronandace> !lamp | walter_
[16:29] <dank101> Help
[16:30] <betrayd>  JasonGriffee cp /from/whatdir/ndiswrapper /tothis/place
[16:30] <bitdealer> not sure how and can't find documentation other than cryptic (to me)
[16:30] <OerHeks> dank101 i still thinks you have optimus, see the supported cards > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-319.12-driver.html
[16:30] <dank101> this res is so bad
[16:30] <betrayd> JasonGriffee: thas on my system (not buntu at the moment)
[16:30] <dank101> OerHeks, i have a 550m
[16:30] <dank101> i installed bumblebeee
[16:31] <limitado> hello,can anybody help me. Iam trying to make windows my defaultbooting system.i have tried wih startuup manager and editing the grub file, so far no luck.
[16:31] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[16:31] <dank101> it's a optimus
[16:31] <dank101> but i installed bumblebee
[16:31] <dank101> and now the res is so bad unity is cut off
[16:31] <thubtumbing> bitdealer, http://develnoter.blogspot.be/2012/05/installing-opencl-in-ubuntu-1204.html ?
[16:31] <betrayd> limitado: after editing run the update grub command
[16:32] <theGK01> hello
[16:32] <dank101> bumblebee is the ONLY thing keeping my computer USEABLE
[16:33] <dank101> F**k it
[16:33] <limitado> betrayd: Idid!but it didn't work! :(
[16:33] <dank101> PURGE EVERYTHING NVIDIA
[16:33] <JasonGriffee> betrayd: and the directories are?
[16:33] <bitdealer> tried that with the amd pkg which is run. outside my comfort zone if i double click and it doesn't do what it is supposed to. dbl clk and opens a blank window.
[16:33] <dank101> PURGE ALL THE THINGS
[16:33] <KI4RO> If I remotely update/upgrade a system then do a reboot on that system is there a way to get back on it?
[16:34] <thubtumbing> "doesn't do what it is supposed to"... what does it do and what is it supposed to do?
[16:34] <bitdealer> zip so imagine the cmd is zip (instead of tar) but ready to pull my hair out over simple cmds in linux. reminds me of dos but that was a few years ago. ARGH!
[16:34] <limitado> betrayd: any idea?
[16:34] <theGK01> anyone with knowledge about iso's and/or MBR+ext3-Filesystems? :S
[16:34] <thubtumbing> you need to extract a zip?
[16:35] <betrayd> limitado: did u run the update grub command
[16:35] <bitdealer> like i said. complete noob. back to the basics.
[16:35] <bitdealer> yep
[16:35] <HelloWorld321> Is there a standard keyboard shortcut to activate the menu?  In the old MSXL, if I hit <Alt>, then I could access hotkeys for most menu items.  What's the equivalent in Ubuntu for LibreOffice?
[16:35] <thubtumbing> just double click it
[16:35] <limitado> betrayd: yes, indeed, but after that, i rebooted and it didn't change
[16:35] <theGK01> yep
[16:35] <thubtumbing> and copy past the contents to your desktop or another place
[16:35] <bitdealer> i did and blank window. close window and 'cancels'
[16:35] <betrayd> limitado: what command
[16:35] <thubtumbing> ok
[16:35] <thubtumbing> gimme the url of the zip
[16:36] <betrayd> limitado: we need to know
[16:36] <bitdealer> diff machine. hold a sec
[16:36] <thubtumbing> sure
[16:36] <limitado> betrayd: mmm,the one specified i the grub file sudo update-grub
[16:36] <shocker> http://imagebin.org/255597   any one know how to solve this issue?
[16:37] <betrayd> limitado: what destination
[16:37] <limitado> betrayd: mmm, according to the tutorial i read,non destination was needed
[16:37] <OerHeks> shocker, if all pictures are that way, get anew camera
[16:38] <bitdealer> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-catalyst-13.4-linux-x86.x86_64.zip
[16:38] <Bostoman> 40plusstillrockin.com
[16:38] <betrayd> hmmm JasonGriffee the page even goes to 12.10, are you on 12.10 now
[16:38] <shocker> OerHeks.. no its not the pic's problem.. this is how i see it within linux.. all the pics in browsers, videos, everything is this way
[16:38] <JasonGriffee> 13.04
[16:39] <thubtumbing> bitdealer, you see the amd-catalyst-... file when you open the zip file?
[16:39] <betrayd> limitado: so it most likely went to...
[16:39] <bitdealer> yes and click on the .run file which gives me the .zip file
[16:40] <thubtumbing> lol
[16:40] <thubtumbing> ok
[16:40] <thubtumbing> i'm gonna get you through it
[16:40] <limitado> betrayd: to the infinite?
[16:40] <bitdealer> so funny to you  hahahaha lol
[16:40] <bitdealer> ty
[16:40] <thubtumbing> no
[16:40] <thubtumbing> not funny
[16:40] <thubtumbing> i've been there too
[16:40] <bitdealer> no more laughing. yes it is
[16:40] <bitdealer> I am rothflmao
[16:40] <thubtumbing> :-)
[16:41] <RainbowW> how do i trace the order in which apache is traversing vhost files to service a request? 10.04, apache is working but serving incorrect directories and i can't figure out why. is it reading /etc/apache2/sites-enabled in alpha order? or some other order?
[16:41] <thubtumbing> right click on the .run file
[16:41] <thubtumbing> then go to permissions
[16:41] <thubtumbing> and check the "allow executing..." thing
[16:42] <betrayd> limitado: seems like it. if you go into edit, do you see the changes you made?
[16:42] <thubtumbing> tell me when you got there
[16:42] <limitado> betrayd: so let me get thisstraiht, if windows is my 4th option, i just have to edit the grub file, and then select 3 (because it istarts from 0, right), then i run the update command ttargeting the destination filew, right?
[16:42] <bitdealer> lets back up a step. on the zip file and dbl click
[16:43] <thubtumbing> yes
[16:43] <betrayd> limitado: in a nutshell
[16:43] <bitdealer> rc on .run and no permission
[16:43] <bitdealer> s
[16:43] <thubtumbing> wait
[16:43] <limitado> betrayd: nutshell?
[16:43] <betrayd> limitado: a lot of people forget its sda or sdb not sda1 nor sdb1
[16:43] <bitdealer> do i need to extract first?
[16:43] <thubtumbing> yes
[16:43] <thubtumbing> right click
[16:44] <thubtumbing> extract to ...
[16:44] <limitado> betrayd: as i recall, those are differences to the hard drive, what do you mean by nutshell?
[16:44] <thubtumbing> i would say desktop
[16:44] <FloodBot1> thubtumbing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <betrayd> limitado: its an expression like in short
[16:44] <ro9> hello
[16:44] <betrayd> or in other words
[16:44] <limitado> betrayd: oh ok, sorry
[16:44] <bitdealer> sorry already did it in the home folder. is that ok or I need to do it again?
[16:45] <thubtumbing> that's ok
[16:45] <betrayd> limitado: not a problem at all
[16:45] <bitdealer> still no permissions
[16:45] <melvster1> Oh Noes!   have virtual desktops (workspaces) been removed in 13.04?   I only have one now!
[16:45] <thubtumbing> i'm gonna open a private chatroom to you
[16:45] <bitdealer> k
[16:46] <ahalverson> melvster1: they havent been removed, go to system settings and click on appearance
[16:46] <DJones> melvster1: No, System settings, Appearance, Behaviour tab, Enable workspaces should get you sorted
[16:48] <melvster1> phew thanks!  DJones ahalverson ... i wonder why that was changed ... it's ubuntu's best feature ..
[16:48] <melvster1> omg it's fast now tho!
[16:48] <roklykthat> I love the workspaces ;P
[16:49] <johnjohn1011> why did they remove workspaces, just curious.
[16:49] <roklykthat> they weren't removed?
[16:49] <melvster1> johnjohn1011: you can turn it back on, i just have
[16:49] <johnjohn1011> as a default.
[16:49] <melvster1> it's just the default setting
[16:49] <Myrtti> johnjohn1011: ctrl-alt-arrow should work for changing what workspace you're on afaik
[16:49] <ahalverson> johnjohn: dont know, i liked workspaces as well
[16:49] <melvster1> but 80% of users tend to use the default setting so it's an important change
[16:50] <ahalverson> yeah
[16:50] <melvster1> i use hotkeys
[16:50] <ahalverson> myrtti: thanks
[16:52] <floridsdorf> hi
[16:52] <ahalverson> hi
[16:52] <wisey> so it is possible to install ubuntu to a usb flash drive?
[16:52] <roklykthat> hi
[16:52] <ahalverson> wisey: yes
[16:52] <roklykthat> erm, yes
[16:52] <roklykthat> should be
[16:53] <wisey> that is so awesome
[16:53] <roklykthat> buntu is awesome =P
[16:53] <ahalverson> wisey: just run the install cd and select the usb as the hard disk
[16:53] <ravigehlot> I have got PulseAudio installed. I can play audio from the console using aplay. However, on Xorg, I can't hear anything even though videos plays and the sound bar moves up and down.
[16:54] <ahalverson> run "alsamixer" in terminal
[16:54] <ravigehlot> I did
[16:54] <red22> I have 12.10 installed and the 13.04 desktop iso saved on my machine... Anyone know how I can make update/upgrades use that local iso to save download time please?
[16:54] <ahalverson> hmm
[16:54] <ahalverson> burn to disk and upgrade off of it
[16:55] <ravigehlot> It plays music through the console
[16:55] <ravigehlot> not problems
[16:55] <ravigehlot> no*
[16:55] <ahalverson> red22: you got a dvd?
[16:55] <wisey> roklykthat :: my PowerBook G4 is not usb-bootable because the guy who wrote Open Firmware told my technician personally. But I have a desktop pc with BIOS that would probably be usb-bootable.
[16:55] <ravigehlot> yes
[16:55] <FloodBot1> ravigehlot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <ravigehlot> I do
[16:55] <wisey> I will give it a try
[16:55] <ioubuntu> hello. i need some help to check out if i have the right ati driver installed
[16:56] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: whats your card
[16:56] <ravigehlot> NVIDIA
[16:56] <ioubuntu> ahalverson: ati hd 4350
[16:56] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: checked additional drivers?
[16:57] <red22> ahalverson, I don't have any blank ones on me so I tried booting via usb (but no option to upgrade via that) so then I'm now trying to use the img as a source directly...
[16:57] <ioubuntu> well, the problem is that i am in ubuntu 13.04 using unity. is not that i liked it, i tried to get to Hardware Drivers but i can't find it. though even if i know it should appear itself to tell me that some drivers are available
[16:57] <ioubuntu> nothing happens
[16:57] <asdf___> hi
[16:57] <ioubuntu> how can i do that in 13.04 ubuntu ?
[16:58] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: what exactly is the problem
[16:58] <kielanmatt> hello how can I get kernel headers for version 3.8.10 ?
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> What. Happened. To. Empathy.
[16:58] <kielanmatt> I need to compile my own glibc for my application
[16:59] <asdf___> I need script for remove Ubuntu and Canonical trademarked material in distro. I want make my own OS based on Ubuntu. Help plz
[16:59] <ioubuntu> ahalverson: well, sometimes the screen flickers for like a milisecond. that looks like not updated drivers
[16:59] <red22> ahalverson, any reason why it all would work via cd and not via an img?  Could we fool the machine into seeing the img file as a cd/dvd?  I see that the software sources window allows you to add a cd/dvd as an official source for ubuntu but not a folder or img :/
[16:59] <ioubuntu> ahalverson: i want to check to see if i am right
[16:59] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: try thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383054
[17:00] <ahalverson> oops
[17:00] <SonikkuAmerica> asdf___: We don't exactly support that here. Have you tried Debian?
[17:00] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383054
[17:00] <kostkon_> ioubuntu: it's in the "software &updates", search for it
[17:00] <asdf___> i want Ubuntu
[17:00] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: does it flicker while on the dash?
[17:01] <ioubuntu> ahalverson: nope. i will try that solution,maybe works..
[17:01] <ahalverson> red22: you could find a program that mounts the .iso
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> asdf___: Ubuntu itself is based on Debian though.
[17:01] <ahalverson> red22: i dont know of any, but i am sure that they have them in software center
[17:02] <ahalverson> brb
[17:02] <red22> ahalverson, will brb lemme search for that.. I just used bash commands to mount the iso as recommended on several forums, but maybe easier with a program made for it, true.  Will let you know, thanks.
[17:03] <gabrielk> hi guys. Just installed lubuntu 12.04 on an old laptop. I'm wondering why version 13 doesn't show up in the update manager? I only got version 12.10 to show up, even though I set the options to show latest version instantly...?
[17:03] <ahalverson> ioubuntu: got to go, hope i was of assistance
[17:04] <OerHeks> asdf___, so you want to make your own distro, but you don't know hwto remove some legal stuff ?
[17:04] <rasha666> hi, i need help. After upgrading my ubuntu 12.10 on 13.04 it started making problems with wireless. It hardly ever connects to router, and when i do. it lasts less then 1 minute
[17:04] <DJones> gabrielk: You can't upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 directly, you have to go through 12.10 first
[17:04] <Aww> gabrielk, You have to update to 12.10 before you can update to 13.04
[17:04] <asdf___> yes
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> gabrielk: (There's a #lubuntu channel) That's because you can only upgrade to the next version at a time.
[17:04] <asdf___> me need remove logos and other trademarks
[17:04] <harris> how do i install a exe
[17:04] <gabrielk> ah thanks guys. I was suspecting that MIGHT be the case :) Currently upgrading to 12.10. Thanks! :)
[17:05] <Aww> harris, use wine
[17:05] <DJones> !wine | harris Wine may be work, join ##winehq to check whether it will,
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Fun fact: Wine also has its own version of msiexec for Windows installer packages.
[17:05] <ioubuntu> ahalverson: u there?
[17:05] <harris> i only have the wine package manager is that it
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah.
[17:06] <rasha666> hi, i need help. After upgrading my ubuntu 12.10 on 13.04 it started making problems with wireless. It hardly ever connects to router, and when i do. it lasts less then 1 minute
[17:06] <harris> i mean configure wine
[17:06] <asdf___> Ubuntu is open source - you may freely remove the Ubuntu trademarks from source packages, recompile the source code to create your own binaries and thereby eliminate Canonical copyrights, creating your own derivative distribution
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: Oh. All you have to do is use Nautilus to navigate to the EXE, right-click and select "Open with Wine Windows Program Loader.
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> "
[17:07] <asdf___> Oo me must recompil all packages?
[17:07] <Dr_willis> harris,  wine /path/to/thething.exe
[17:07] <chaotix> hello...  where can i go to submit a suggestion about this?   keyboards sold on shop.ubuntu.com should have an ubuntu logo on the super key instead of windows key.
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: What Dr_willis said works too.
[17:07] <DJones> !brainstorm | chaotix
[17:07] <Dr_willis> chaotix,  I belive they do sell sticker kits. :)
[17:08] <harris> SonikkuAmerica, i clicked and nothing happended
[17:08] <asdf___> any help plesae
[17:08] <Dr_willis> harris,  dont click, use the cli. easier to see error messages
[17:08] <harris> /home/harris/Downloads
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: I said: Right-click the exe and select Open with Wine Windows Program Loader.
[17:08] <harris> i did
[17:08] <rasha666> Anyone to help me?7
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: It should be running.
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> rasha666: Give us a second! :)
[17:09] <harris> is this what i type  wine /home/harris/Downloads
[17:09] <Dr_willis> harris,  wine /path/to/thething.exe
[17:09] <asdf___> ok Ubuntu is copyright?
[17:09] <harris> exactly like that ok
[17:09] <Dr_willis> harris,  giveing it just the path and not the name..makes little sence
[17:09] <asdf___> "Ubuntu"
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !info playonlinux | harris: You also might try PlayOnLinux, which is a Wine frontend that lets you install and configure Windows programs the way you wish
[17:09] <rasha666> SonikkuAmerica, ofc
[17:10] <fmk> could anyone help me setup m graphics driver, please?
[17:10] <chaotix> thanks, DJones
[17:10] <OerHeks> asdf___, try #linux, this is not the channel for making your own ubuntu.
[17:10] <SonikkuAmerica> rasha666: So, a wireless problem... what wireless card do you have?
[17:10] <asdf___> my os will be based on Ubuntu
[17:10] <harris> /home/harris/Downloads/Clash\ of\ Clans\ Hack\ [MEGA\ Version].exe
[17:10] <rasha666> SonikkuAmerica, Built in my laptop
[17:10] <asdf___> and will use ubuntu packages and repo
[17:11] <SonikkuAmerica> asdf___: (OerHeks: You mean ##linux, right?)
[17:11] <asdf___> help plz
[17:11] <harris> or wine /home/harris/Downloads/Clash\ of\ Clans\ Hack\ [MEGA\ Version].exe
[17:11] <Dr_willis> harris,  might be easier if you rename it to remove the spaces  and special haracters
[17:11] <SonikkuAmerica> rasha666: Run [ lspci ] in a terminal.
[17:11] <asdf___>  Cannot send to channel: ##linux
[17:11] <OerHeks> SonikkuAmerica, asdf___  my bad, double # > ##linux
[17:11] <Dr_willis> !remaster | asdf___
[17:11] <SonikkuAmerica> rasha666: One second
[17:11] <asdf___>  Cannot send to channel: ##linux
[17:11] <OerHeks> !register | asdf___
[17:11] <DJones> asdf___: This channel is for support with using Ubuntu, there's probably not many people here that will have built their own distro, ##linux might have more help
[17:11] <asdf___> no
[17:12] <asdf___> help here please
[17:12] <asdf___> i want use ubuntu
[17:12] <Dr_willis> start by reading the remaster URL info the bot said asdf___
[17:12] <asdf___> linux its only kernel
[17:12] <Dr_willis> asdf___,  askubuntu.com also has some guides  on remastering your own  ubuntu variant
[17:12] <harris> it says Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[17:13] <DJones> asdf___: We can help using Ubuntu, as I said, building your own disto based on Ubuntu isn't really a topic for this channel
[17:13] <Dr_willis> harris,  install mono from the repos
[17:13] <asdf___> ok ill back
[17:13] <harris> is it in software center
[17:15] <RainbowW> i'm trying to do a virtualhost in apache ... config is thus: http://pastebin.ca/2368246 ... but when i try to access it, it gives me the documentroot of a different virtualhost. what am i missing about tracing this error?
[17:15] <Dr_willis> !mono
[17:16] <DJones> harris: Have you looked to see if its in Software Centre?
[17:16] <harris> im trying to use play on linux
[17:16] <Dr_willis> !pol
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis, that !command doesn't exist.
[17:17] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  the bot messeged me  that it dosent exist..
[17:17] <OerHeks> Dr_willis, !poll
[17:17] <Dr_willis> i think theres a play on linux factoid.
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !playonlinux
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope, not that.
[17:18] <harris> !PoL
[17:18] <harris> nope
[17:18] <OerHeks> !info playonlinux
[17:19] <SonikkuAmerica> The PPA for it has the latest version.
[17:20] <harris> !info
[17:21] <harris> theres like no differnece between 12.10 and 13.04
[17:21] <thubtumbing> !info
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: I beg to differ!
[17:21] <harris> besides the launcher icons
[17:21] <Dr_willis> There a great many polish and changes..
[17:21] <hays> ubuntu is still telling me there is a new release and to type do-release-update to get it, when I've already updated like yesterday
[17:21] <hays> small bug?
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: Hit your power button and tell me if that looks anything like the GTK+ shutdown screen.
[17:21] <harris> and that
[17:21] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/new-ubuntu-13-04-features
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> And what about the tablet optimization thing? I can use my Wacom tablet in its horizontal mode with no problems.
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> By the way, is there a way to rotate the lightdm login screen?
[17:22] <harris> what is a wacom tablet
[17:22] <Dr_willis> Spit and Polish and  tweaks..
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> !wacom
[17:22] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  Hmm. How do you rotate it as a user?
[17:23] <harris> !wacom-tablet
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: I use the Displays option in System Settings. But that's only after I'm logged in.
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: www.wacom.com
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> You'll see examples.
[17:23] <Troy^> anyone using gnome ubuntu?
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Troy^: Check in #ubuntu-gnome
[17:24] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  theres ways to run  the same tool as the lightdm user i belive and  the setings would get applied to the lightdm login screen. Or you could use xrandr from the lightdm startup scripts perhaps
[17:24] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  might be a setting in the lightdm configs also
[17:24] <Troy^> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[17:24] <harris> how do i install http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html without play on linux or wine
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: Might give it a shot
[17:25] <Dr_willis> harris,   we said earlier..  install MONO if it wants mono.   then  wine /path/to/the/game.exe
[17:25] <harris> i cant find mono
[17:25] <Dr_willis> harris,  wine runs windows exe's  thats its job. play on linux uses wine
[17:25] <Dr_willis> !find mono
[17:25] <Solotov> hi hi
[17:25] <Dr_willis> searched for 'mono' using the package manager tools yet?
[17:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Ouch, OhForgetMyNick was me.
[17:26] <harris> idk how to get there
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> (My 3rd nick attempt. I wonder what's using the second one?)
[17:26] <Dr_willis> !manual  | harris
[17:27] <Dr_willis> harris,  use apt-cache search mono. or fire up software center and search.
[17:27] <Dr_willis> or use synaptic if you want somting more old skool
[17:27] <Solotov> someone knows if exist spaniard Ubuntu channel?
[17:27] <DJones> !es | Solotov
[17:27] <Dr_willis> !info mono-complete
[17:28] <Solotov> thnks :)
[17:28] <harris> i ran sudo apt-cache search mono
[17:29] <Dr_willis> harris,   mono-complete (source: mono): complete Mono runtime,
[17:29] <harris> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `source:'
[17:29] <Dr_willis> harris,  you ran what command exactly?
[17:30] <harris> sudo mono-complete (source: mono): complete Mono runtime
[17:30] <Dr_willis> harris,  time to learn some basics of useing the system i think... tha twas NOT a command i gave.. but the name and info of the package that apt-cache search  showed...
[17:31] <Dr_willis> the package name IS as the bot said 'mono-complete'
[17:31] <harris> i just want to install that
[17:31] <Dr_willis> thats what you want to install for mono 2.10.8.1
[17:32] <harris> so sudo apt-get install for mono 2.10.8.1
[17:32] <Dr_willis> the package name IS as the bot said 'mono-complete'
[17:32] <harris> yes
[17:32] <Shogoot> Hi people. I had my ubuntuserver file server up and go. I recentrly moved the server to another room and now all the sudden i can't access my fileserver...  can anyone help em troubleshoot this? My smb.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609287/ My stuff is at line 281 to 297    /media/nm is accesible trough putty...
[17:32] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[17:33] <Kion> I tried to update from the .iso image and I am reporting that if you have already a dual boot it will not let you upgrade from the .iso
[17:33] <Kion> The option appears greyed out
[17:34] <alo21> hi all... i have a problem with ubuntu 13.04,  which crashes due to my b43 wireless card
[17:34] <Bostoman> Shogoot, what do you mean with media/nm is accesible through putty?
[17:34] <alo21> that means I can't install raring on my pc
[17:34] <alo21>  how can I fix it?
[17:35] <Shogoot> Bostoman, that is a USB HDD attached to the server amchine wich contains all my files. Im buiying two more next month to set up a simple raid5.
[17:35] <Shogoot> Bostoman, i know the disk is accessible by putyy 8the files exists wich im trying to reffer to in smb.conf at line 281 and down there.
[17:36] <excelsio1> so do I upgrade to 12.04 or 13.04?
[17:36] <harris> can someone please figure out how to install http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html
[17:36] <Dr_willis> Shogoot,  check ownership and permissions of the /media/nm directory . it might have changed.
[17:37] <Dr_willis> harris,  whats the issue now? you installed mono. then did wine to run the exe?
[17:37] <saym> hola
[17:37] <Shogoot> oh shit sorry
[17:37] <saym> alguien habla español aca?
[17:37] <Shogoot> Dr_willis,
[17:37] <Shogoot> drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm
[17:37] <DJones> !es | saym
[17:37] <harris> how did i install mono
[17:38] <Shogoot> saym, Si,pero si necesitas ayuda EN español ve a #ubuntu-es
[17:38] <Dr_willis> harris,  you install the 'mono-complete' package as we mentioned earlier....
[17:38] <saym> thanks :)
[17:38] <pianogmx> where and who do I talk to figure out how I can contribute my time to the ubuntu project?
[17:38] <excelsio1> I understand another option is monthly rolling updates? I'm concerned about getting behind in terms of grub or ext.
[17:38] <DJones> !contribute | pianogmx
[17:38] <harris> so sudo apt-get install for mono 2.10.8.1
[17:38] <Dr_willis> excelsio1,  i doubt if grub is going to  change a loit.
[17:38] <excelsio1> so do I upgrade to 12.04 or 13.04? or the monthly rolling?
[17:39] <Dr_willis> harris,  you install the 'mono-complete' package  the package NAME is 'mono-complete'   NOT "mono"\
[17:39] <harris> how did we do that????
[17:39] <Shogoot> Dr_willis, i dont know if this is how its suposed to be. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory
[17:39] <Shogoot> drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm
[17:39] <DJones> excelsio1: There isn't a monthly rolling version of Ubuntu
[17:39]  * harris so confused
[17:39] <Dr_willis> harris, -->  sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME   and the package name IS 'mono-complete'
[17:39] <excelsio1> 13.04 only gets 9 months support.. (where did I read about monthly updates?...)
[17:39] <xyxxy> hello, I've botted my dad's hacked-probably-part-of-a-botnet windows machine using the ubuntu live cd. I have the terminal open, I just need to know the command to reformat the entire hard drive and start fresh. i'm planning on reinstalling windows
[17:40] <Dr_willis> harris, so by yusing the package NAME you get the command -->  sudo apt-get install mono-complete
[17:40] <harris> yes
[17:40] <DJones> excelsio1: It was a propsal, but it was decided not to go ahead with a rolling release
[17:40] <iBelieve> I'm planning on installing Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Arch Linux, with an additional data partition, making a a total of 5 partitions. Since I can't use just primary partitions, what is the best way to partition the drive?
[17:40] <Dr_willis> harris,  so what COMMAND are youy trying to use to install the mono packages?
[17:40] <harris> sudo apt-get install mono-complete
[17:40] <Dr_willis> iBelieve,  you can just nstall kubuntu-desktop on top of the ubuntu install. and use either desktop at login
[17:42] <OerHeks> harris, "Only thing that you have to do before you download Clash of Clans Hack Tool is to Share this page on Facebook and Google+!  If you skip this step, the tool might not work! " lolz
[17:42] <excelsio1> DJones: thank
[17:42] <excelsio1> you
[17:42] <Shogoot> Dr_willis, i dont know if this is how its suposed to be. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm
[17:42] <iBelieve> Dr_willis: If I did that, I could just use 4 primary partitions then?
[17:42] <harris> really!!!!!! like that makes a difference
[17:42] <excelsio1> So should I hop on the bleeding edge?
[17:42] <excelsio1> any danger in it?
[17:42] <atrus> is it odd that updates in precise-security have a priority set to "low"?
[17:42] <atrus> s/priority/urgency/
[17:42] <excelsio1> I *could* dual boot for it, suggestions?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> iBelieve,  you tell me. ;)   im not adding up all your disrtos. theres not much need to install a seperate kubuntu and ubuntu install is all im saying.
[17:43] <excelsio1> I want to do this today, though...
[17:43] <xyxxy> hello, I've botted my dad's hacked-probably-part-of-a-botnet windows machine using the ubuntu live cd. I have the terminal open, I just need to know the command to reformat the entire hard drive and start fresh. i'm planning on reinstalling windows
[17:43] <Dr_willis> xyxxy,  you mean DELETE everything on the windows hard drive? use gparted to delete the partions and remake them if you want
[17:43] <thubtumbing> fdisk /dev/sda
[17:44] <chaotix> hello...  i need to make a nautilus script that opens the file in Gedit...  here is one that opens gksu gedit...  i would like to change it so that it opens gedit not as root...  it isnt as simple as you would think, as you will see if you look...  can someone help me with this??
[17:44] <chaotix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5609331/
[17:44] <OerHeks> xyxxy, step 1: unmount the hdd, and step2: start gparted to erase
[17:44] <chaotix> you can just paste the finished script to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:44] <Dr_willis> xyxxy,  a gparted live cd is a handy tool to keep in your pc toolbox.
[17:44] <chaotix> i can not figure this out, please help
[17:44] <iBelieve> I'm rather confused about primary/extended partitions. Do I need one or the other, or can they all be primary, or all be logical on a extended partition?
[17:44] <chaotix> :)
[17:44] <xyxxy> thank you! :-)
[17:44] <Dr_willis> iBelieve,  you can have 4 primary. one can be an 'extended' that holds a huge # of logicsls
[17:44] <excelsio1> If I get on the bleeding edge, should I go with 13.04 instead of 12.04?
[17:44] <betrayd> iBelieve: you have to have 1 primary
[17:44] <excelsio1> \What's teh difference?
[17:44] <Dr_willis> iBelieve,  linux is perfecatly happy to use logicals.
[17:45] <betrayd> iBelieve: max of four
[17:45] <Dr_willis> excelsio1,  bleeding edge of what?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:45] <excelsio1> you know, the constant update/upgrade cycle
[17:45] <Dr_willis> 12.04 is not going to be 'bleeding edge' of much
[17:45] <thubtumbing> excelsio1, 13.4
[17:45] <Dr_willis> if you want the latest vbersions of packages.. go with the latest release. and use ppas for stuff you need updated
[17:45] <OerHeks> iBelieve, there is a max of 4 primairy possible on 1 hdd, but you can make one extended partition, that can have more partitions if you need it.
[17:46] <excelsio1> I have it ready to go, I'll have to download teh 13.04...
[17:46] <iBelieve> betrayd, Dr_willis: thanks.
[17:46] <goonface> 13.04 is it good
[17:46] <excelsio1> If no diff, I'll just install the 12, and upgrade to 13 and stay on the upgrade.
[17:46] <Kion> is there a ppa for libreoffice?
[17:46] <excelsio1> If there's a difference, i'll download first.
[17:46] <ahalverson> goonface: yeah, though not as great as i expected
[17:46] <excelsio1> Please advise
[17:47] <Dr_willis> excelsio1,  if its a new clean install.. theres no point in installing an older release then upgradeing
[17:47] <kristof> I hoped to connect my laptop to the TV set with a VGA cable and simply change screens (as I'd do with a projector screen), but this doesn't seem to work. A google search was also fruitless. What am I forgetting, or what should I've done first?
[17:47] <Dr_willis> excelsio1,  it will take 3x as long to get installed that way
[17:47] <excelsio1> ok, I'll download the 13.04 install
[17:47] <chaotix> goonface, 13.04 was too buggy for me, so i downgraded, but others say they like it
[17:47] <Dr_willis> torrents for 13.04 should be blazeing fast right now
[17:47] <iBelieve> OerHeks: So should I put the two linux distros on two primaries, and then data and swap on logical? Or put data on primary and everything else on logical partitions?
[17:47] <excelsio1> thanks for the advice. I just never upgrade when the LTS comes out.
[17:47] <Dr_willis> iBelieve,  it really dosent matter much
[17:48] <excelsio1> I've been meaning to for a year now.
[17:48] <excelsio1> backing up my home dir, and going for it. Thanks!
[17:48] <punter> Is the system-tray gone completely in Ubuntu 13.04? Or can application adapt to 13.04 to have their icon displayed there?
[17:49] <iBelieve> Dr_willis: Okay, thanks.
[17:49] <lorddune> Bostoman: I have been digging deeper into Tiger processes, found this >>> Make system-specific checks every day at 1 am # Notice: System specific checks can be enabled in the  # $OS/$REL/$ARCH/check script or run independently as in the # commented line below # 1 * * check_system # Notice: this checks are Debian-specific, enabling them is  # redundant with Linux checks. #1 * *	deb_checkmd5sums deb_nopackfiles deb_checkadvisories
[17:49] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/raring-retires-system-tray-whitelist     punter
[17:51] <milessabin> Can anyone help me out with a USB 2.0 vs. 3.0 issue?
[17:52] <Bostoman> lorddune, great!
[17:52] <ahalverson> milessabin: whats the prob?
[17:52] <milessabin> I'm affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1102797 and looking for a workaround.
[17:53] <Dr_willis> !torrents
[17:53] <milessabin> ahalverson: Ignore the duplicate ... I have exactly the Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 problem.
[17:53] <ahalverson> ok looking into it
[17:53] <exeter> can we isntall linux mint with windows 8
[17:53] <exeter> ??
[17:53] <SonikkuAmerica> !mint
[17:54] <exeter> ubottu: Kali is supported??
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !backtrack
[17:55] <mylezzz> I recently installed an update and now my icon-theme will not load. In Dconf it is set as the default theme. When I try to load it using gsettings it comes up with a long error ending "X11 initialization failed". I have tried removing the theme and reinstalling it. I have renamed .Xauthority. Anyone have any ideas?
[17:55] <Dr_willis> exeter,  Kali Linux has its own support channels.. its not an official ubuntu release
[17:55] <Sagitt> hi
[17:55] <lorddune> Bostoman: well it's great but now I don't know what to do with that information
[17:55] <Sagitt> i've an asus 1001px and i've installed the new ubuntu 13.04
[17:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors | exeter, here's what we support
[17:56] <Sagitt> how i can disable effects?
[17:56] <doebi> why does ubuntu block the usage of tlmgr in latex packages?
[17:56] <ahalverson> milessabin: it says to plug it in to the 2.0 slot
[17:56] <doebi> how am i suppoed to install custom latex packages then?
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  you want to use the unity desktop? or  somthing lighter?
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> (That factoid needs changing to say Unity instead of GNOME.)
[17:56] <milessabin> ahalverson: I don't have any usb 2.0 ports on this machine.
[17:56] <Bostoman> lorddune, try to find the mentioned script and edit it
[17:57] <Sagitt> Dr_willis: i want ubuntu, no other distro
[17:57] <Sagitt> but i want unity without all effects
[17:57] <Sagitt> like trasparency and other
[17:57] <ahalverson> milessabin: i wish i could say that
[17:57] <Sagitt> because when i run dash search and other things like this all go slow
[17:57] <celso> people, does ubuntu 13.04 disable compiz on fullscreen?
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Sagitt: That might be a bit hard to roll out.
[17:57] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  theres no longer a Unity-2d  as of 12.10+
[17:58] <milessabin> ahalverson: If I had a USB 2.0 hub handy I would try using the scanner via that, but I don't unfortunately.
[17:58] <lorddune> Bostoman: yeah, i've been reading the Tiger process commands, it seems they use modules to run everything. Guess I will continue this at a later time, thanks for your help I truly apreciate it.
[17:58] <doebi> how am i suppoed to install custom latex packages then?
[17:58] <Sagitt> Dr_willis: so i've to install other distro?
[17:58] <Sagitt> like xubuntu?
[17:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors | Sagitt, that might be a good suggestion
[17:58] <Bostoman> no problem
[17:58] <SonikkuAmerica> s/GNOME/Unity
[17:58] <ahalverson> milessabin: but how would you connect the hub other than to the 3.0 port
[17:59] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  lubuntu is ubuntu with a differnt desktop. You can easially install the xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop package on top of ubuntu and use that desktop
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Sagitt: So is Kubuntu.
[17:59] <Sagitt> well so i can install xubuntu desktop on this intallation right?
[17:59] <celso> Dr_willis : would that bring stability to unity?
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Sagitt: [ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ]
[17:59] <Dr_willis> !info xubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <Sagitt> and use it or unity when i want?
[18:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep
[18:00] <celso> Dr_willis : would that bring (my mistake) instability to unity?
[18:00] <Dr_willis> celso,  You wouldent be using unity if you used the subuntu desktop
[18:00] <ahalverson> milessabin: sorry gtg, hope you figure it out
[18:00] <Dr_willis> you select whatever desktop  you want at the login screen
[18:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Sagitt: Except it might double-pull, so you'll have 2 file managers, 2 disc burners, etc.
[18:00] <Sagitt> no disk space problems
[18:00] <Sagitt> is a netbook
[18:01] <Sagitt> is only for tests and other
[18:01] <milessabin> ahalverson: I'm assuming that by passing through a USB 2.0 hub both the scanner and the laptop would operate in USB 2.0 mode (ie. using the ehci-pci kernel driver)
[18:01] <celso> Dr_willis :  so, it wuldn't make like dependency problems? in other words, is it safe?
[18:01] <Dr_willis> celso,  i have ubuntu. kubuntu, lubuntu, and gnome-0shell all installed here
[18:02] <Dr_willis> gotta love big hds
[18:02] <celso> Dr_willis :  ok. thanks. Sorry to get into the conversation but i always had that question :D
[18:02] <Dr_willis> theres alwyas the potential for some conflict or other qirks.. but nothing major that ive ever noticed in the last few years
[18:03] <Sagitt> Dr_willis: have all desktop
[18:03] <Sagitt> need only hdd space right?
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> LibreOffice REALLY needs a Unity indicator. So does Chromium.
[18:03] <Dr_willis> an indcator to do what?
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: What the old systray applets did, of course.
[18:04] <thubtumbing> doebi, what do you need for packages?
[18:04] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  and that was?
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: The Chromium systray applet managed Chromium offline, and the LibreOffice quickstarter let you do everything LibreOffice's splash screen did from the systray.
[18:05] <doebi> i am installing latex on a system with limited disk space and only want to install the packages i rly need
[18:05] <thubtumbing> ok
[18:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: <Chromium> As well as Chrome Extensions.
[18:05] <varun> milessabin, by personal experience I can tell you that the USB3 hub will always be handled by xhci driver, doesn't matter whether the connected device is USB2 or USB3
[18:05] <doebi> so i started with a plain install and tried to manually install using tlmgr
[18:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: Such as Chat for Google.
[18:05] <harris> Dr_willis, it mono installed so i ran the wine command same error
[18:05] <Dr_willis> theres generic indicator-applets written in python if you just want a fancy launcher cluttering up your systray
[18:05] <doebi> but fucking ubuntu doesnt want me to use tlmgr
[18:05] <thubtumbing> i don't know tlmgr
[18:06] <doebi> tlmgr is latex own package manager
[18:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: Oh. Where? I could run a search in Synaptic or Software Center...
[18:06] <thubtumbing> you can add packages in the command line
[18:06] <goonface> Boot ubuntu in classic and install dock
[18:06] <doebi> maybe i can intsll same packages using apt-get but using different name conventions whcih arent documented anywhere
[18:06] <thubtumbing> for example: sudo apt-get install texlive-lang-hebrew
[18:06] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  right click on the icon in the unity panel. and check out the quicklists feature... you CAN add custom entrys to the right click - quicklist listing also
[18:06] <Shogoot> Dr_willis, i dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm
[18:06] <BlessJah> i'm interested in running do-release-upgrade in download-only mode
[18:06] <harris> Dr_willis, it mono installed so i ran the wine command same error
[18:06] <BlessJah> is there such posibility?
[18:06] <doebi> thubtumbing: i know but as i just said, i dont know the names ubuntu uses
[18:07] <milessabin> varun: the port itself is fine ... I can use other USB 2.0 and 3.0 devices on it without problem. It seems to be specifically a combination of USB 3.0 and that device. The device itself works fine on a different machine in a USB 2.0 port. Don't you think an intermediary USB 2.0 hub might help in that case?
[18:07] <doebi> for example i want o instal latex package "listings"
[18:07] <Dr_willis> harris,  wine help is best done in #winehq
[18:07] <celso> Should i install "lubuntu-core" or "Lubuntu-Desktop"?  But i dont want the lubuntu aps. Only the window manager
[18:07] <harris> can you send my issue there so i dont have to start over
[18:08] <Dr_willis> I always install the desktop packages.. since i want it all.
[18:08] <Dr_willis> just the -core may not be confiured the same as a full -desktop install
[18:08] <Dr_willis> since as you said.. it wouldent install all the extra apps
[18:08] <thubtumbing> and diskspace is really scarce?
[18:08] <hipster> so why the hell does 'apt-get install php5' requires apache2, and how do I install php5 without that bloatware?
[18:08] <celso> Dr_willis: but wouldn't that make you have duplicate apps?
[18:08] <Shogoot> I dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm Anyone that can help me out on this?
[18:09] <Dr_willis> !info php5
[18:09] <celso> Dr_willis: but wouldn't that make you have duplicate apps? libreoffice and abiword? rhythmbox and the lubuntu music app?
[18:09] <Flannel> hipster: You're looking for php5-cli
[18:09] <Dr_willis> celso,  so? if i go to Lubuntu i want the lubuntu apps.. if i go to kubuntu, i want the kubuntu apps
[18:09] <doebi> thubtumbing: i need to install it on my vserver which has 20 gigs, and besides that. why SHOULD I INSTALL 3 gigs of data when i only use 200mb???
[18:09] <hipster> Flannel, does that includes fastcgi binary?
[18:09] <hipster> (since 'cli' in package name implies otherwise)
[18:10] <thubtumbing> yes you're right doebi
[18:10] <thubtumbing> wait
[18:10] <Dr_willis> !find fastcgi
[18:10] <celso> Dr_willis: ahh ok.  now i understand :D
[18:10] <celso> Dr_willis: thanks  for the help :D
[18:10] <varun> milessabin, I only have problem with my USB3 port when using a GSM modem, and the problem remains even if I connect it via a USB2 hub (I have one and have tried it). But in my case, the hub +modem has problems with USB2 port as well, so am not sure about your scenario. The only thing I'm sure is that the connection will still pass through xhci driver
[18:10] <hipster> hm ok looks like it's php5-fpm. No idea why normal php5 package comes with that bloatware Apache, but whatever. Thanks :p
[18:10] <Flannel> hipster: No.  That includes php5 without any webserver support ("that bloatware")
[18:11] <thubtumbing> can you tell me what package listings does? or in what "latex-package" it is normally?
[18:11] <hipster> Flannel, webserver support != complete webserver
[18:11] <Flannel> hipster: apache is the default webserver for ubuntu, that's why.  But once you install php5-fpm, you can install 'php5' and it won't install extra stuff.  That's how packages work.  If you don't specify, you get defaults.
[18:11] <milessabin> varun: OK, thanks. Is it possible to force the ehci driver to be used?
[18:12] <richardbranson> hello i've got problem with dns configuration, as root i can ping every server but as normal user i can ping only ip addresses. i tried to change dns servers but after restart its rolling back setting
[18:12] <varun> milessabin, what is this machine by the way? (laptop, desktop?) and what model?
[18:12] <doebi> thubtumbing: aehm it makes listings, i guess. i didnt wrote that latex file. a clleague of mine did
[18:12] <thubtumbing> ...
[18:13] <doebi> i just want to use tlmgr
[18:13] <thubtumbing> you can make listings by \begin{itemize} \item...
[18:13] <milessabin> varun: Dell XPS 13, laptop
[18:13] <Flannel> thubtumbing: Generally that sort of support is frowned upon.
[18:14] <doebi> thubtumbing: i dont know latex, i am just setting up the backend for a online latex compiler
[18:14] <Shogoot> I dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm Anyone that can help me out on this?
[18:14] <thubtumbing> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/73116/fresh-install-texlive-2012-ubuntu-12-04-tlmgr-nowhere-to-be-found
[18:14] <varun> Smilessabin, OK.  sorry I missed your last question. Unfortunately, the answer is No. The USB3 can only be handled by xhci. But I'm interested in your problem. Do you have a thread on it?
[18:14] <richardbranson> exit
[18:15] <milessabin> varun: only the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1102797
[18:16] <milessabin> varun: (the original report about the scanner is exactly my problem)
[18:16] <doebi> thubtumbing: ok, i see, no chance to get tlmgr. but how do i know how the package is called in apt?
[18:17] <thubtumbing> for something as "listings" that would be hard
[18:17] <thubtumbing> just try google for "ubuntu latex listings" ...
[18:17] <doebi> tlmgr install listings
[18:17] <doebi> omg it would have been so easy... <.<
[18:18] <thubtumbing> you can install a windows server i guess
[18:19] <Anti-S1eep> Welcome! I guess...
[18:19] <doebi> thubtumbing: are you fukcing kidding me?
[18:19] <Flannel> thubtumbing: Seriously, stop being a jerk.
[18:19] <thubtumbing> ??
[18:20] <thubtumbing> Flannel, what did i do?
[18:20] <doebi> 20:18 < thubtumbing> you can install a windows server i guess
[18:20] <Flannel> thubtumbing: You should be helpful.  If you can't help, don't make snide remarks, just let someone else who can help, help.
[18:20] <jp_hranice> Hi, my Raring do not search online sources. What is wrong ?
[18:21] <doebi> thubtumbing: it seems liek ubunut groups packages up, so i cant select them seperqatly.. which sucks..
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> jp_hranice, Can you give details and context?
[18:21] <thubtumbing> Flannel, if there is a windows tool that isn't on ubuntu, and that tool is superb (according to ...), why wouldn't i recommend a way to use that tool, even if it would be by using non-linux??
[18:22] <deadweasel> Hello All!  Issues:  Ubuntu 12.04 x64, any sound from the browser is popping and clicking...
[18:22] <thubtumbing> yes doebi, texlive groups them
[18:22] <deadweasel> thubtumbing:  i would guess because this is #ubuntu
[18:22] <thubtumbing> ...
[18:22] <Shogoot> I dont know if theese rights are correct for a directory i want to share on my network using samba. This is ls -l for my /media/nm directory drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 4096 Apr 13 20:55 nm Anyone that can help me out on this?
[18:22] <doebi> thubtumbing: no, ubuntu does for use in apt-system
[18:23] <Flannel> thubtumbing: If they're in this channel, you can bet they're interested in doing it in Ubuntu, just like when they're asking about a LaTeX package, saying "just use this other thing" (which, doesn't even do the same thing) is also unhelpful.
[18:23] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee:  Dash create error message, something is wrong my email
[18:23] <thubtumbing> Flannel, if you would have checked that article i sent you would know there isn't another solution
[18:23] <Flannel> doebi: I believe that texlive-latex-recommended includes 'listings'.
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> jp_hranice, Has the email ever worked?
[18:24] <doebi> Flannel: maybe, but there is still the problem, that i install tons of other packages which i dont need
[18:24] <goonface> Something clunky
[18:24] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee:  yes. In Thunderbird there is no problem.
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> jp_hranice, As well are you translating our conversation to understand and if so to what language?
[18:25] <deadweasel> Is the flash plugin known for causing popping clicking in ubuntu 12.04 x64 desktops?  Or is chrome specific?
[18:25] <Bostoman> bleih having stability issues :(
[18:25] <Flannel> doebi: That's correct.  If you don't want that, your only other option is to install it manually.
[18:25] <doebi> Flannel: how?
[18:25] <jp_hranice> No I do not use any translator. My language is Czech.
[18:25] <doebi> i wanted to use tlmgr to install them manually, but its not availabel in ubuntu
[18:25] <Flannel> doebi: by putting the file(s) in appropriate directories
[18:25] <thubtumbing> doebi, http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/38978/how-can-i-manually-install-a-latex-package-debian-ubuntu-linux
[18:26] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee: No I do not use any translator. My language is Czech.
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> jp_hranice, Okay, so in what app is this not working. The problem here is your description is missing pertinent info at least for me to understand what your problems actually are. ;)
[18:26] <doebi> u got to be kidding me
[18:26] <thubtumbing> yes...
[18:26] <doebi> meh
[18:26] <doebi> i got better things to do with my time
[18:26] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee:  Ina dash itself.
[18:26] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee: in a dash itself.
[18:27] <Flannel> doebi: Ubuntu uses apt for its package management, using a LaTeX specific management tool wouldn't mesh well.  That's just the nature of the beast.
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> jp_hranice, So tell us what you do the process to get an error.
[18:27] <thubtumbing> maybe Flannel will write you a program for it
[18:27] <doebi> Flannel: pip is a package management tool for python, and guess what. IT WORKS in ubunut!
[18:27] <dingle> i just upgraded to 13.04, now i have no sound on my hdmi output. how do i fix this?
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> !details | jp_hranice this bot info helps
[18:28] <thubtumbing> oh congrats doebi
[18:28] <dingle> at the first reboot no sound worked, i did a cold boot and now at least the laptop sound works but still no hdmi
[18:29] <Flannel> doebi: That's just how the LaTeX guys in Ubuntu decided to do it.  Otherwise you have dozens of "package managements" for their own domains, and you can't keep track of things globally.
[18:29] <jordan4ibanez> Hello again, I have set the CTRL+ALT+DELETE in the keyboard shortcuts to run a command, yet when I do the key combination, it doesn't run the command, would there be any issue why?
[18:30] <doebi> stupid devs
[18:30] <Flannel> doebi: pip does perl, not python, and it installs things to /usr/local/ which is effectively what you'd be doing with the LaTeX things.
[18:30] <doebi> i dont understand why apt groups the packages up, instead of using the package names from latex
[18:30] <doebi> pip is python
[18:31] <Flannel> doebi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/pip pip is perl.
[18:31] <Flannel> If you're using it for python... good luck to you :)
[18:31] <thubtumbing> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/pip.1.html
[18:31] <doebi> Flannel: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip
[18:32] <thubtumbing> euhm whatever pip is, can one install latex packages with it?
[18:32] <thubtumbing> cause i seriously doubt that
[18:33] <doebi> thubtumbing: no it cant thats not what i meant.
[18:33] <doebi> i just said it works, besides apt, why tlmgr not?
[18:33] <thubtumbing> oh
[18:34] <deadweasel> FYI -- If people ask about popping/clicking sounds in flash player chrome (ubuntu 12.04), do about:plugins, select details, disable the PPAPI (out-of-process)
[18:34] <deadweasel> under flash player
[18:34] <varun> milessabin, did you try a usb2 hub?
[18:34] <deadweasel> no more popping / clicking in videos/music served via chrome.
[18:35] <milessabin> varun: yes, and as you suggested, it didn't help
[18:35] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee:  OK. I try some.  My problem occured in functinality of dash itself. I use actual Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Rightal Czech tranlation. I try to serch a wether for example, it means online source content. Dash search only my computer and give me back "there is no content you are looking for". I expect  online result about weather in a location.
[18:36] <goonface>  Chrome does not support video exceleration and flash
[18:36] <varun> milessabin, I'll keep an eye on the bug report page, but I think you should also post a relevant thread on it if not already exists.
[18:36] <goonface> Chrome does not support video acceleration in Flash
[18:36] <P3ERCHIK> help
[18:36] <milessabin> varun: thread?
[18:37] <P3ERCHIK> backtrack?
[18:37] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: I've never heard such a fib in my life.
[18:37] <SonikkuAmerica> P3E
[18:37] <DJones> !backtrack | P3ERCHIK
[18:37] <lomo7_> do i need to set IOMMU to enable in order to use multiple gpu's?
[18:37] <lomo7_> over bios
[18:37] <taime1> hello. I have intel integrated video and Ubuntu 12.04 doesnt detect my monitor resolution correctly. How can I force ubuntu to see it?
[18:38] <dingle> i just upgraded to 13.04, now i have no sound on my hdmi output. how do i fix this?
[18:38] <dingle> the hdmi output doesnt even show up
[18:38] <milessabin> varun: Sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu as a distro ... when you say "post a thread" do you mean on one of the mailing lists? Surely the bugtracker is the place for this sort of thing?
[18:38] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: run youtube video right click on video selev
[18:38] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: select video info
[18:39] <varun> milessabin, I mean a thread in ubuntuforums (ubuntuforums.org)
[18:39] <mzhang> Can I extend jfs partition at the beginning?
[18:40] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: then run youtube video in firefox right click playing video sellect
[18:40] <lomo7_> do i need to set IOMMU to enable (bios) in order to use multiple gpu's?
[18:40] <kr_ous> Hi all
[18:40] <mzhang> Question: can I extend a jfs partition at its beginning (once I made that portion freed up)? Thanks.
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: And? I have no problems with either one.
[18:40] <Jordan_U> mzhang: Usually no (outside moving the entire partition bit by bit, then adding to the end).
[18:40] <Jordan_U> mzhang: What is your end goal?
[18:40] <varun> milessabin, yes, the bug tracker may be a better place for this. It's just that some of us are more used to forum threads..
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> jp_hranice, Cool that is a better explanation for the channel in general, I don't use unity so am not really able to give specifics, personally I have two android devices, a smart phone and a nexus 7, for weather info. In ubuntu I just use the browser.
[18:40] <harris> i need to install http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html
[18:40] <taime1> Why cant ubuntu see my screen's native resolution?
[18:41] <excelsior> Are we still using unetbootin to set up thumbdrives for installing ubuntu? I downloaded the 13.04 iso, but unetbootin didn't recognize it, so I tried to remove and reinstall it, but unetbootin won't install now from the repos.
[18:41] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: chrome does not support gpu acceleration FACT
[18:41] <jp_hranice> wilee-nilee:  :-)
[18:41] <mzhang> Jordan_U: right now I have boot, swap, root and home partitions (4 primaries), home is jfs, I may be buying a SSD and put the first 3 over there, and use the full drive as home instead.
[18:42] <thubtumbing> excelsior, use usb-creator-gtk
[18:42] <dingle> i found out its a kernel bug, how lame.
[18:42] <goonface> Chrome does not support GPU flash acceleration.
[18:42] <kr_ous> I have a problem to upgrade my ubuntu to 13.04, it says
[18:42] <kr_ous> Unable to start the upgrade
[18:42] <kr_ous> This is usually due to a system or / tmp is mounted noexec. Please go back without noexec and update again.
[18:42] <thubtumbing> or use the dash and search for "startup disk creator"
[18:42] <milessabin> varun: I'm afraid I'm old-fashioned ... mailing lists and bugtrackers for me ;-) But it does look like ubuntuforums is where a lot of the activity is and the mailing lists seem surprisingly (to me) quiet. Is that the normal state of affairs?
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: It doesn't tell you whether or not the video accel is HW or SW
[18:42] <lomo7_> do i need to set IOMMU to enable (bios) in order to use multiple gpu's?
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: It tells you the decoding medium though.
[18:43] <excelsior> thubtumbing: thanks, I have it! can you point me to the commands for it?
[18:43] <excelsior> and will it wipe my thumbdrive?
[18:43] <thubtumbing> not if you don't tell it to
[18:43] <excelsior> cool
[18:43] <kr_ous> and I have /tmp on the same disk with the permissions set to 777 for /tmp
[18:43] <excelsior> I already have a 12.04 on the thumbdrive and I want to overwrite it.
[18:43] <mzhang> Jordan_U: if this is not something doable, then shall I set home partition as maybe ext4 or ntfs instead?
[18:44] <dingle> whats an easy way to fall back to a working 13.04 kernel? the latest one is baked.
[18:44] <excelsior> but I also have other things I don't want overwritten
[18:44] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: google it. Chrome PEPPER FLASH in linux does not support GPU acceleration.
[18:44] <excelsior> Anyhow, can you point me at the commands?
[18:45] <thubtumbing> to be sure i'd guess copy those files to another medium
[18:45] <excelsior> ok,
[18:45] <excelsior> thx
[18:45] <varun> milessabin, I believe the reason is that the bug tracker contains only issues which have been identified as bugs, while the forums are for any kind of technical support, including bugs. Of course it is non official and usually the devs don't look in there.
[18:45] <kr_ous> hey can u find a solution for my problem ??
[18:46] <taime1> Why cant ubuntu see my screen's native resolution?
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: The submitter of that bug branch in Chroium realized he made a mistake when he reported it: "Sorry, I should've reviewed this issue before I posted.  There is no hardware video decoding."
[18:46] <milessabin> varun: OK. thanks
[18:46] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: chromuim can use gpu acceleration if you set its hidden settings to use firefox flash
[18:46] <jordan4ibanez> Oh in todays update you can drop desktop launchers into the unity launcher? Cool!
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: *Chromium
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: Did you read what I said?
[18:47] <asdasd> hello
[18:48] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[18:48] <przemek> hie everyone
[18:48] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: The issue isn't acceleration, it's the decoder.
[18:48] <jordan4ibanez> Never thought I'd easily be able to put TF2 into the unity launcher without weird work arounds. :3
[18:49] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: on slower pc its big problem
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: So use Chromium instead (it uses the flashplugin-installer) if you want the HW decoder. Problem solved.
[18:50] <Jordan_U> mzhang: Definitely not ntfs, but ext4 is a good choice.
[18:51] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: flash stoped upgrading standard flash but chrome uses its own newer version with no GPU acceleration
[18:52] <SonikkuAmerica> goonface: You're missing my point. No hardware involvement whatsoever.
[18:53] <mzhang> Jordan_U: I threw out ntfs out of frustration... so you can dynamically resize ext4 both ways amd at both ends?
[18:53] <goonface> SonikkuAmerica: whatever its still not using GPU
[18:53] <thubtumbing> SonikkuAmerica, i think he just wants to shine, see this private "conversation"
 You god dAmn jerk
 ...
[18:53] <thubtumbing>  ?
 Go to hell
 lol
[18:53] <FloodBot1> thubtumbing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <taime1> Why cant ubuntu see my screen's native resolution?
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> thubtumbing: Bad idea to paste a multi-line text.
[18:54] <thubtumbing> yea stupid me ;)
[18:54] <Jordan_U> malkauns: No, I don't know of any filesystem that you can resize by adding space to the beginning. I though you meant more along the lines of "If I'm going to create a new filesystem anyway, I might as well go with ext4".
[18:54] <thubtumbing> it's been more than a decade since i've been on irc
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> thubtumbing: It's called flooding. And that proves absolutely nothing. If sever trolling occurs we have the !ops command.
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> *severe
[18:55] <thubtumbing> I'm sorry SonikkuAmerica, won't do it again
[18:55] <excelsior> thubtumbing: I'm running usb-creator-gtk, time estimation was jumping around a lot, and now it seems to be hanging at 81% complete (for three minutes now) with no time estimation at all.
[18:56] <mzhang> Jordan_U: what about xfs vs. ext4?
[18:56] <thubtumbing> yes excelsior sometimes it doesn't go that fast
[18:56] <thubtumbing> often i reformat my usb
[18:56] <excelsior> ok, so its normal
[18:57] <thubtumbing> i wouldn't say "normal" ;)
[18:57] <Jordan_U> mzhang: In my opinion, if you don't have a compelling reason to use another filesystem it's best to stick with ext4.
[18:57] <excelsior> It just seemed to be going too fast, then it seemed to stop.
[18:57] <jordan4ibanez> Does anyone know how to catagorize different launchers into sub launchers? Or has unity not gotten that advanced yet? :o
[18:57] <excelsior> Swett, I guess it's installing the bootloader now, because I just had to permission it.
[18:58] <excelsior> sweet, I mean
[18:58] <thubtumbing> yes that's wright
[18:58] <excelsior> lol
[18:58] <thubtumbing> you'll be on your way soon
[18:58] <mzhang> Jordan_U: ok thanks... just to make sure that I can resize ext4 at both ends of the partition, increase or decrease?
[18:58] <zetheroo> how do I enable dual-pane in the file browser of 13.04?
[18:58] <excelsior> thubtumbing: you make ubuntu fun and exciting.
[18:59] <excelsior> :)
[18:59] <zetheroo> F3 is not working
[18:59] <thubtumbing> :-)
[18:59] <Jordan_U> mzhang: Again, *no*.
[18:59] <thubtumbing> at least someone appreciates me :P
[18:59] <excelsior> sweet, it finished!!
[18:59] <mzhang> Jordan_U: what are my options if I need this functionality?
[19:00] <excelsior> anyone know where tomboy notes are backed up?
[19:00] <goonface-> I am really tired of the games
[19:00] <Jordan_U> mzhang: Use GParted which will first move the entire partition "to the left" then resize it "to the right", which will take a *long* time, and a lot of IO.
[19:01] <mzhang> Jordan_U: I think that is fine, it is not a frequent exercise. But I cannot even do this with jfs, correct?
[19:01] <streulma> hello, who have problems with skype not running on 13.04? I have a simple solution
[19:02] <Jordan_U> mzhang: You can do that with any filesystem.
[19:02] <goonface-> Anybody have lemons you make lemonaide
[19:02] <Jordan_U> mzhang: As always, make sure that your backups are good.
[19:03] <goonface-> streulma: whats the secret
[19:04] <petoo> hi
[19:04] <petoo> I don't see my other drive.
[19:04] <Dr_willis> and what other drive are you refering to petoo ? give us details
[19:05] <goonface-> petoo: sounds bad
[19:05] <mzhang> Jordan_U: thanks. then no real difference between jfs and ext4 in that regard, but I understand ext4 is preferred by linux. Probably doesn't make a difference in a home NAS server.
[19:05] <Guest65194> how to install pagages
[19:05] <petoo> Sometime I ago I was logging through guest account , from there I opened it, and then I logged in to my regular accound no w I dont see it
[19:06] <taime1> Why cant ubuntu see my screen's native resolution?
[19:06] <petoo> Dr_willis, it's one under windows
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !details | taime1
[19:07] <varikonniemi> Maximum number of clients reached
[19:07] <varikonniemi> (qbittorrent:2109): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[19:07] <varikonniemi> whats going on here, i get similar errors with many other apps also?
[19:07] <varikonniemi> only started since upgrading to 13.04
[19:08] <Jordan_U> mzhang: You're welcome, and correct.
[19:08] <taime1> wilee-nilee: ubuntu 12.04 intel. toshiba television. no resolution greater than 1024x768 available.
[19:08] <streulma> goonface-: on 64bit, install ia32-libs first, then install skype from partner repo
[19:08] <waperboy> is journaling a requirement for crash-recoverable file systems, or should I ask, are there SSD-friendly dito
[19:08] <dingle> is there a way to drop out of X and just use the command line?
[19:09] <taime1> wilee-nilee: also using vga, not hdmi
[19:09] <varikonniemi> ctr-alt-f1
[19:09] <dingle> will it kill the X server though?
[19:09] <dingle> i dont think it will
[19:09] <varikonniemi> no
[19:09] <zivester> can an xubuntu 13.04 image be used on a Macbook Pro retina?
[19:09] <Dr_willis> dingle,  sudo service lightdm stop
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> taime1, If you direct that at me it looks like I'm helping, rather than at the channel for general help, probably would help to identify the tv.
[19:09] <dingle> thanks Dr_willis
[19:09] <streulma> hi zivester
[19:10] <streulma> zivester: do you dualboot ?
[19:10] <catface> You look for trouble it bites you
[19:10] <taime1> the tv is a toshiba. i dont have much more info than that
[19:10] <zivester> streulma, I will probably dual boot, yes
[19:11] <thubtumbing> petoo,  guest account files aren't saved if i'm correct
[19:11] <Jordan_U> waperboy: Journaling doesn't add enough writes to actually decrease the lifespan of an SSD in any meaningful amount.
[19:11] <catface> Wow they are so
[19:11] <petoo> Yes, they are not.
[19:11] <petoo> But I was accessing another drive, for some reason.
[19:12] <petoo> Now I am logged in through my regular account, and I dont see it here.
[19:12] <Dr_willis> petoo,  look at the output of the 'mount' command. see whats mounted where.
[19:12] <catface> Journaling is not needed with ssf
[19:12] <catface> Ssd
[19:12] <petoo> It's easy to reboot and just forget about everything but I don't thing it's a good solution.
[19:12] <petoo> ok dr
[19:13] <Jordan_U> catface: That is an absurd statement. SSD or non SSD does not affect the usefulness of journaling.
[19:13] <Dr_willis> Jordan_U,  i was just about to say that.. after i googled a site or two to back me up
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> taime1, In the terminal xrandr will give you possible resolutions and xrandr -s "resolution here" wil change it
[19:14] <taime1> wilee-nilee: as i said, the correct resolution is not available
[19:14] <taime1> xrandr doesnt list the tv's resolution
[19:14] <catface> Its like having journaling for memory. Its not needed for ssd
[19:15] <Jordan_U> waperboy: Dr_willis: Ted Tso (developer of ext3/4) making the case for using journaling with SSDs: http://tytso.livejournal.com/61830.html
[19:15] <taime1> and i have tried adding it through xrandr. the furthest i can get is: using xrandr to add a new mode, it then shows up in the display properties, but then when it is chosen, nothing happens
[19:15] <Dr_willis> Jordan_U,  i figured there was some articals out thee on it. ;)  never saw any ssd tweak pages say to 'not' use journeling
[19:17] <petoo> Dr_willis, its all gibberish to me. Could you please look at this file? http://pastebin.com/H40iQ51U
[19:17] <danes> hello, how can I remove the gui and get back to terminal when I restart ubuntu server? I just want to get rid of the login and gui and have terminal available
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> danes, The gui is?
[19:18] <petoo> the partition is vfat, but don't know which one.
[19:18] <Dr_willis> petoo,  you got 2 filesystems mounted to /media/########   the # is the uuid of the filesystem.
[19:18] <danes> I did sudo apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop but did not work
[19:18] <danes> wilee-nilee: I mean the graphical interface
[19:19] <Dr_willis> petoo,  and you got  somting mounted to /windows also
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> danes, you need a complete package list to remove it and then it can be problematic possibly.
[19:19] <danes> I just want to get to the command prompt and nothing else
[19:19] <petoo>  /windows is other partion , nothing wrong with it
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> danes, you can have a cli boot.
[19:20] <pztrick> danes: i've had luck finding lists for removing the ubuntu-desktop packages in guides for xfce4, xubuntu, etc
[19:20] <Dr_willis> petoo,  you got a total of 3  mounted filesystmes that might be it.    2 are in /media/####
[19:20] <Dr_willis> !text | danes
[19:20] <petoo> Dr_willis, which one is missing from /media
[19:21] <Dr_willis> petoo,  you have 3 filesystems i see mounted..  one on /windows   and 2 in /media/Big-Huge-numbers    look at them all
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> danes, here is a site with lists, if it were me I would just reinstall as the server only, or just cli boot. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[19:22] <petoo> thanks Dr_willis
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> or better know text boot lol
[19:22] <petoo> I better restart the system
[19:22] <KI4RO> If I remotely update/upgrade a system then do a reboot on that system is there a way to get back on it?
[19:23] <petoo> instead of going through this guessing game
[19:23] <Dr_willis> KI4RO,  hopefully you got ssh setup
[19:24] <KI4RO> Dr_willis, Using putty
[19:24] <Dr_willis> KI4RO,  Putty is a SSH client.. so you are using SSH.
[19:24] <Dr_willis> well putty can to telnet also i think. ;)
[19:24] <dingle> it can
[19:25] <Dr_willis> but i bet a lot of peole these days dont een know what telnet is. ;)
[19:25] <KI4RO> Dr_willis, Okay, so do I need to kill the password on boot on the remote machine or ???
[19:27] <NeedHelpWithBoot> Hey all, having boot issue and hoping someone could help me..
[19:28] <Dr_willis> KI4RO,  ssh is a service. and starts up automatically. the user dosent login THEN start ssh.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> needhelpwithboot: what is the issue?
[19:28] <OerHeks> KI4RO, usually the service you use to acces your system, will remain working after upgrade
[19:28] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[19:29] <KI4RO> Dr_willis, Okay so I can still get into the remote system even if noone logs on to it?
[19:29] <NeedHelpWithBoot> I have windows 8 installed on my ssd, and I have 13.04 installed on an internal hdd. I unplugged the 8 drive during the ubuntu install. I've got grub to see the 8 drive after I plugged in and booted, but every time I try to go to 8, I get a "cannot find drive map" issue.
[19:30] <KI4RO> Dr_willis, after it boots
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> ki4ro: its a service, its like rdp in windows. nobody has to be logged in locally for it to work.
[19:30] <Dr_willis> KI4RO,  if you have ssh setup as a SERVICE you can ssh into the box.. thats what a service does
[19:31]  * Dr_willis wonders how else one is logging into a remote system
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> needhelpwithboot: if you run: sudo update-grub does it help?
[19:31] <KI4RO> Okay thanks guys...so it starts automatically before anyone goes through the login screen...cool!
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> kirro: yes at runlevel 3 (usually)
[19:31] <NeedHelpWithBoot> That is what I did to get 8 to show, but still drive map error. I also installed and ran boot-repair like I found on some page related to my issue, still the same problem.
[19:33]  * wilee-nilee thinks someone needs to write a uefi blues
[19:33] <sabatier> 12
[19:34] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  one reason ive not bought a new pc recently.
[19:34] <Dr_willis> that and the wife wont let me... ;P
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> is uefi actually worth it
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Me to. ;)
[19:34]  * wilee-nilee maybe better as a country song, the heartbreak and all.
[19:34] <NeedHelpWithBoot> Any ideas?
[19:35]  * mac_ says hi to everybody
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> needhelpwithboot: my grub skills are slim as I single boot and dont have uefi. maybe others can advise
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> NeedHelpWithBoot, The best help on uefi issues I have seen is at the ubuntu forums, start a thread there maybe.
[19:36] <mac_> whois bmallred
[19:37] <lomo7_> Which software shows the gpu's temp cpu temp and everything in Ubuntu? amd
[19:37] <lomo7_> and control it ofcourse..
[19:37] <NeedHelpWithBoot> I'll give it a shot. I've been reading them all night...but I'll make a post. Thanks
[19:38] <SamWeasley> hello everyone
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> NeedHelpWithBoot, There is a mod there that is the best here, that is a hint. ;)
[19:38] <SamWeasley> Could someone help me changing the Unity default file manager?
[19:38] <bmallred> whois mac_
[19:38] <Dr_willis> SamWeasley,  change it to what?
[19:38] <SamWeasley> I want to change nautilus to nemo or Dolphin?
[19:39] <SamWeasley> I think Nautilus is not good for me
[19:39] <Dr_willis> SamWeasley,  that may cause all sorts of weirdness..
[19:39] <Dr_willis> better to just start the other file managers as needed
[19:39] <NeedHelpWithBoot> Ha, so how would I go about figuring out who it is? I'm going to assume, you?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> samweasley: just put it in the Unity panel and remove nautilus from the panel. Should be ok
[19:40] <SamWeasley> Dr_willis: I'm doing this
[19:40] <hrolf> Hi ubuntu, I'm using Audacity, to record sound from output, i.e. redirecting output to input
[19:40] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[19:40] <hrolf> I have done that
[19:40] <SamWeasley> ActionParsnip: when the automount mount a USB device, it still shows
[19:40] <hrolf> now I want so that the voice isn't played on my speakers
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> NeedHelpWithBoot, Make a thread and wait for responses you will notice that one of them is a mod, they are in tons of threads already there. I don't want to nick drop here.
[19:41] <hrolf> i.e. it be still recorded, but not played on my speakers
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> A U.F> mod
[19:41] <Dr_willis> SamWeasley,  dont be suprised if channgeing it - causes issues later.
[19:41] <hrolf> is it possible?
[19:41] <harris> anyone know how to install http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html
[19:41] <Dr_willis> !appdb | harris
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> samweasley: if you right click a folder in nautilus, select to open with another application and select what you want. Click the option to remeber the association
[19:42] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager  SamWeasley  has info. but it may be outdated
[19:42] <OerHeks> harris, better join #winehq for that hack tool exe
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> harris, By now you should know what is channel appropriate.
[19:42] <harris> they are ignoring me on purpose
[19:43] <OerHeks> harris you might get hacked yourself, be carefull.
[19:43] <Dr_willis> all this work to 'hack' an iOS game file?
[19:43] <harris> yes
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> harris, I'm not surprised I usually put you in ignore as soon as I see you.
[19:43] <Anti-S1eep> Wow.
[19:43] <harris> so i can beat my friends
[19:44] <harris> wilee-nilee, :(
[19:44] <Dr_willis> sounds to me like it would be a good way to get banned from that game if its Online/Multiplayer
[19:44] <SamWeasley> Now, it's working... Thanks
[19:44] <harris> no plenty of people use it
[19:45] <Dr_willis> sounds to me like a good reason to stop playing that game then if plenty of people are cheating.
[19:45] <OerHeks> "friends"harri
[19:45] <Dr_willis> but its off topic for here.
[19:45] <OerHeks> "friends" harris?
[19:45] <harris> yes my school friends
[19:45] <daddio_> I want to install the edubuntu stuff, but I want to keep the unity desktop look/feel etc.  Is there way to do that?
[19:46] <morgan1> SETNAME Morgan
[19:46]  * wilee-nilee thinks ethics are what you practice when no one is looking.
[19:46] <Dr_willis> daddio_,  you can select what desktop to load at the login screen. and if edubuntu changes that you can change the lightdm theme back
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> daddio_: you can install the edubuntu metapackage and use the apps but log in to the Unity session in lightdm
[19:47]  * Dr_willis is not sure he would trust anything from ....   http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.com/
[19:47] <daddio_> Dr_willis: ActionParsnip thanks, gotta love ubuntu channel
[19:48] <wizard_A> how to show/hide the left taskbar in ubuntu12.04
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> wizard_a: in the system settings somewhere you can set it there
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> wizard_a: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRBZuloWVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[19:51] <cheetos> yesterday i ordered  the dell xps 13 from dell outlet with windows 7 and im goinna put ubuntu on it
[19:51] <cheetos> i always been a windows users, but i hate windows 8, so im gonna give ubuntu a chance
[19:52] <thubtumbing> good idea cheetos :)
[19:52] <arduous> hi all
[19:53] <cheetos> i have limited unix/linux experice, but from what i have seen i ilke it
[19:53] <wizard_A> thanks
[19:53] <cheetos> i also rather support open source
[19:53] <streulma> cheetos: I'm a Mac user... comming from Mac en now running Ubuntu on my Mac, without buying a new PC :)
[19:54] <cheetos> nice
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> wizard_a: searched for: hide unity panel 12.04
[19:54] <cheetos> well i needed a new laptop
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> wizard_a: nothing fancy...
[19:56] <michaelaguiar> How is the best way to create a user who only has access to /var/www ?
[19:58] <arduous> anyone use ubuntu 12.10 version ?
[19:58] <MartynKeigher> im still on 12.04
[19:58] <MartynKeigher> i prefer the LTS.
[19:58] <zvacet> arduous: probably just ask
[19:58] <Defleg> hi
[19:58] <michaelaguiar> I just installed 13.04 - works pretty well so far
[19:59] <arduous> mine is updating 13.04 right now
[19:59] <arduous> ive some questions about drivers
[19:59] <zvacet> michaelaguiar:  little bit faster then 12.10 I think
[19:59] <Defleg> i am having troubles with my webcam - dell n4010
[19:59] <sivsiv> does anyone know about the touchsupport on 13.04? I've been trying to find out more about the tablet/desktop convergence thing and see if it's covered in the dektop distro
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> ardous: just so you are aware. Raring is EOL before Quantal
[19:59] <michaelaguiar> zvacet: I agree.
[19:59] <Defleg> I can't find the drivers for the webcam anywhere on the dell site and i've tried searching many places but no luck yet.
[19:59] <michaelaguiar> arduous: what drivers are in question?
[19:59] <arduous> ive problems with my display driver Dell Inspiron 15r 5521
[20:00] <Defleg> i tried installing cheese and camorama software but they didn't work either.
[20:00] <zvacet> michaelaguiar: but maybe not fast as 12.04  :)
[20:00] <MartynKeigher> ok so when i ssh to a /var/www/whatever folder.... i can modify files, but i cant modify files in /var/www/whatever via ftp. can someone please tell me why?
[20:00] <arduous> when i activate one of those additional drivers,
[20:00] <arduous> my desktop goes away
[20:00] <arduous> all icons etc
[20:00] <thecodethinker> Can someone tell me how to get vmware player 5 on ubunut? I can't find a download link for it on the vmware site nor can i find it in any repo.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> defleg: run: lsusb ,and use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[20:00] <MartynKeigher> i am ftp'ing in as the ownr but cant modify
[20:00] <daddio_> is there a way to install all educational programs that are free?
[20:00] <daddio_> ;)
[20:00] <michaelaguiar> zvacet: I haven't tested the two together yet.  I use it primarily as an apache server
[20:00] <Defleg> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip. let me try that.
[20:01] <explodes> When I do "sudo pvs" I only see one entry. Do I need to create another Volume Group before I create my virtual machines?
[20:01] <sivsiv> or in any case, has anyone used ubuntu desktop with a touchscreen tablet (x86 type processor not a mobile processor)
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: would virtualbox not fill your needs?
[20:01] <MartynKeigher> sorry...i mean im ftp'ing in with a member of the group that ahs all permissions to the folder.
[20:02] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: no. unity3d doesn't run under that
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> sivsiv: x86 is a mobile processor too
[20:02] <MartynKeigher> SSH yes :) FTP NO :(   ... .Any ideas?
[20:02] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: it makes me sad :(
[20:02] <arduous> i guess im missed
[20:02] <Defleg> ActionParsnip: this is the line i found: Bus 001 Device 031: ID 0c45:641d Microdia 1.3 MPixel Integrated Webcam... "0c45:641d" is the code?
[20:02] <zvacet> michaelaguiar: as I remember 12.04 was fast when I used it probably still is never used any kind of banchmark
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: are you going to be installing Precise?
[20:02] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: graphics support in general is kinda sad under VB
[20:02] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: nope
[20:02] <Draxelis> What's good soft for trackpad gestures???
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> defleg: yes
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> sivsiv, The channel works with you stating the actual problems to the channel, not me though.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: i see. could install xubuntu, its lighter and will give a sleeker OS
[20:04] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: no it's not that I can't install it. I can't find a download for version 5 anywhere... I see version 4 but not 5. I wanted to know if anyone here knew a repo that had vmware. Sorry if I was unclear before
[20:04] <Draxelis> What's good soft for trackpad gestures???
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> draxelis: easystroke or gestick
[20:04] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: Thinking about it... that's kinda silly... u can't have repos for commercial programs can you
[20:05] <thecodethinker> unless vmware makes it
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: sure, the humble bundles have a private ppa....
[20:05] <Draxelis> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[20:05] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: yeah but they run it with license...
[20:06] <exeter> ActionParsnip: rt3290 problem for wifi with ubuntu 12.10 solved???
[20:06] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: do u know of anyway to make 3d accelaration better in VBox then?
[20:06] <thecodethinker> or is it just the way it is
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: in virtual systems I use LXDE so it impacts less on the host. Its a smarter move imho
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> exeter, That requires a wrapper, ubuntu is not developing fixes per-say I suspect.
[20:07] <Defleg> ActionParsnip: could this method help? http://stemp.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/karmic-get-the-latest-drivers-for-gspca-uvc-usbvideo-and-other/
[20:08] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: I have to run windows
[20:08] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: I can turn off explorer :D
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: i believe there is a ticky box for 3D accel
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> thecodethinker: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/09/install-vmware-player-5-0-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[20:08] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: yeah but ... nvm I'll go ask on Vbox irc
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> defleg: sure
[20:09] <pztrick> do the ubuntu PPAs throttle excessive apt-get requests? i've been hacking a novaclient/Fabric script to provision VMs then install packages, but lately its started failing to find packages with "Unable to locate package" and I wonder if I'm making too many requests
[20:09] <thecodethinker> ActionParsnip: there is no download link for vmware player 7
[20:09] <thecodethinker> 5*
[20:09] <thecodethinker> That is what I am trying to find
[20:09] <zastaph> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL suggests to apt-cache search libssl to install openssl.. but libssl is a dependency of openssl so why not just apt-get install openssl ?
[20:10] <IdleOne> pztrick: have you upgraded to 13.04? upgrades to new versions automatically disable any PPA's you have.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> pztrick, The ppa would not throttle check that they are supporting your release and possibly change the mirror.
[20:11] <wizard_A> has anyone read galvin os concepts
[20:12] <pztrick> IdleOne: it's a 12.04 cloud "UEC" image. it had been working, but if i say, spin up 3 images (Each with unique IP in same subnet), sometimes one of the instances will fail while the others succeed with the same 'apt-get install python-setuptools git' (for instance)
[20:13] <Draxelis> ActionParsnip,  i'm looking for a mac-like touch recognition. Touchegg seems like a decent soft but it doesnt work well
[20:13] <pztrick> the error is "Unable to locate [package]'
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> wizard_a: this is support. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> pztrick: run: sudo apt-get update ,first
[20:14] <frank_> hello, every time i try to install updates, i get prompted with a window that says,  'Requires installation of untrusted packages - This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources.' ... then when i hit 'ok' ... nothing happens and no updates install. over and over again... any thoughts?  thanks
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> frank_, You add any third party repos like PPA's
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> frank_: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> frank_: please pastebin the output
[20:15] <pztrick> ActionParsnip: i am :(  just ran the automation script again, and 2 machines successfully apt-get update'd and apt-get install'd while the third (an exact clone) did not
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> pztrick: make sure the sources are the same
[20:17] <frank_> frank@frank-IdeaCentre-K430:~$ sudo apt-get update
[20:17] <frank_> [sudo] password for frank:
[20:17] <frank_> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu-Studio 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Alpha amd64 (20130403) raring Release.gpg
[20:17] <frank_> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu-Studio 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Alpha amd64 (20130403) raring Release
[20:17] <frank_> Err cdrom://Ubuntu-Studio 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Alpha amd64 (20130403) raring/main amd64 Packages
[20:17] <FloodBot1> frank_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <frank_>   Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> frank_: use a pastebin was the last thing I said to you......
[20:18] <FrankieJ> hmmm, now i have several files i would like to copy and back up, but to a windows 7 machine, ive copied files FROM win7 onto this machine jus fine, but right now i am unable to copy to IT
[20:18] <texla> I have installed 12.04 w/grub to mbr...Now I want to delete 10.04..is gparted the best way to accomplish this feat ?
[20:18] <punter> Damn, Ubuntu 13.04 sucks. See here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286772/system-tray-replacement
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> texla, Sure, make sure you are in 12.04 and have the swap off.
[20:19] <texla> wilee-nilee, Okay thanks
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> texla, Then run sudo update-grub
[20:19] <FrankieJ> wat he do to me?
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> texla, You might consider just remaking the parttion though so you have the partitions in numerical order, rather than deleting.
[20:20] <frank_> http://pastebin.com/txSa7CAy
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> frankiej: share a folder in Windows and make sure your firewall allows the traffic
[20:21] <Dr_willis> punter,  the system tray has basically been abolished.. apps have had plenty of time to adopt the indicator applet method
[20:21] <FrankieJ> ActionParsnip, it does, ive copied from my win7 machine already, i cant paste to it
[20:21] <Dr_willis> punter,  and as a anwser to the question. i belive some docks can have a system tray item in them
[20:22] <punter> Dr_willis: Can an app running on 13.04 display an icon at the place where the system tray used to be?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> I use cairo-dock
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> frankiej: check your firewall. it may be stopping the traffic
[20:22] <punter> Dr_willis: I'm asking because I'm not sure I understood how indicator applet methods work, and what they do
[20:22] <Dr_willis> punter,  no idea. I dont have a single app that uses the system tray any more. they all use indicator applets
[20:22] <OhioGuy> hi ,, I just installed 13.04 over top of 10.04 on a dell laptop ,, during installation it asked for a name and password ,, I entered that info but set it to autologon ,,,, now when I need to do something that needs a password , it won't accept it ,, does anyone have a clue as to what I might do to rectify this situation ?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> frank_: looks fine, just remove the install cd as a package source
[20:23] <Dr_willis> indicator applets replaced the old kuldgy system tray method.. its been  several releases now that apps have had time to adopt to the new method.
[20:23] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/raring-retires-system-tray-whitelist
[20:23] <wizard_A> i'm running wubi ubuntu, can i add a system call to the kernel???
[20:23] <frank_> gotcha
[20:24] <punter> Dr_willis: Yes, but can indicator applets display an icon where you can see it, without having to click anywhere to see it?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ohioguy: hold SHIFT at boot and go to root recovery console, run: passwd name ,and set your password for your username
[20:24] <Dr_willis> punter,  they got icons at the top right... you most likely have several indicator-applets allready running there
[20:24] <punter> Dr_willis: They might have had plenty of time to adapt, but what they have to adapt to is not goo
[20:24] <punter> d
[20:24] <punter> a ok
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, You can reset the user password. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:24] <Dr_willis> punter,  in what way is it not good? you just said you dont understand indicator-applets
[20:25] <punter> ok it IS good
[20:25] <OhioGuy> ok , I'll try that ,, thanks ActionParsnip
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> punter: that is only in Unity based sessions.....not all of 13.04
[20:25] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available  an old list of indicator applets out there.. not seen a newer list anywhere
[20:25] <punter> ActionParsnip: What is only in Unity based sessions?
[20:26] <zvacet> OhioGuy: you can try to change ( use  same ) password by typing in terminal passwd <user_name> and <username>is of course your username  :)
[20:26] <Guest8492> hello guys
[20:27] <dfx> hello guys
[20:27] <dfx>  i want to recompile dwm with th status bar info but i the recompiling does not go to th end
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> punter: thr missing systray stuff you were on about
[20:28] <punter> ActionParsnip: ok
[20:28] <EiEiOhh_> Anyone familiar with Plex Media Server for Ubuntu?
[20:28] <excelsiora> Hey guys, remember me? I'm now new and improved. Ubuntu 13.04... rock on.
[20:28] <vlt> !anyone | EiEiOhh_
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> punter: xubuntu and kubintu 13.04 dont have that issue....do they?
[20:29] <punter> ActionParsnip: ok, but I want to use the newest and the best, what everyone uses
[20:29] <wizard_A> i'm running wubi ubuntu, can i add a system call to the kernel???
[20:29] <punter> ActionParsnip: although these might be mutually exclusive
[20:30] <Dr_willis> wizard_A,  what exactly are you talking about? You can compile a new kernel if you wanted to...
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> EiEiOhh, http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/26727-how-to-plex-media-server-on-ubuntu/
[20:30] <EiEiOhh_> I am setting up Plex Media Server on brand new Ubuntu 12.10? I have three hard drives. System is one. The other two are formatted EXT4 and both store movies, tv shows, music, pics but I cant see them in Plex
[20:30] <Dr_willis> !latest | punter
[20:30] <OhioGuy> ActionParsnip  , I tried your suggestion ,, and got the error message " Athentication token manipulation error "
[20:30] <Robs> alguem br?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> !br
[20:30] <wizard_A> but i'm running ubuntu on wubi so i dont actually have a grub
[20:30] <dfx> kosaidpo~/build/dwm-6.0:$sudo dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
[20:30] <dfx> dpkg-buildpackage: paquet source dwm
[20:30] <dfx> dpkg-buildpackage: version source 6.0-4
[20:30] <dfx> dpkg-buildpackage: source changé par Vasudev Kamath <kamathvasudev@gmail.com>
[20:30] <dfx> dpkg-buildpackage: architecture hôte i386
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> punter: you can, but the issue you speak of is only in one of the officially supported versions
[20:30] <dfx>  dpkg-source --before-build dwm-6.0
[20:30] <wizard_A> its the same windows bootmgs
[20:30] <FloodBot1> dfx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <dfx> dpkg-source: info: utilisation des options depuis dwm-6.0/debian/source/options : --compression=gzip --compression-level=9
[20:30] <dfx>  debian/rules clean
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> !paste | dfx
[20:31] <excelsiora> so do I have workspaces here in ubuntu 13?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> wizard_A,  wubi is being phased out in the near future. its a good time to switch to a normal install
[20:31] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  Unity has workspaces./ 4 by default
[20:31] <excelsiora> Wahh... where are they?
[20:31] <excelsiora> cool
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> ohioguy: run: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[20:31] <excelsiora> how do I use it? Not at the bottom anymore....
[20:31] <aguitel> are amsn working right now?
[20:32] <Dr_willis> System Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior tab and enabling workspaces.
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> ohioguy: then run the passwd command
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> wizard_A, You might take a look here for a partitioned install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[20:32] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-you-add-virtual-desktops-in-rarings-unity
[20:32] <zvacet> excelsiora: system settings>appearance 	
[20:33] <OhioGuy> ActionParsnip   ok
[20:33] <excelsiora> got it, thanks zvacet
[20:33] <excelsiora> Dr_willis: thanks
[20:33] <excelsiora> ok
[20:33] <zvacet> excelsiora: np  :)
[20:34] <OhioGuy> ActionParsnip   ok I did the remount thingy ,,, it said password updateded sucessfully ,,,, rebooting now
[20:35] <excelsiora> Do I get the restricted extras? seems right...
[20:37] <rocketnine> Does a functional P2P apt-get exist at this time?
[20:37] <rocketnine> I've explored three projects and they all seem to be dead/outdated
[20:38] <OhioGuy> ActionParsnip  ,,   thanks ,,,, that fixed it
[20:38] <excelsiora> anyone know how to get inconsolata in my terminals/consoles?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> rockernine: ive seen one based on torrents. I use apt-fast which uses axel to download
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> ohioguy: sweet
[20:39] <rocketnine> ActionParsnip: I wrote this tutorial on apt-fast and have received several complaints directing me to a P2P apt: http://notblog.org/faster-updates-with-apt-fast/
[20:39] <haider> مساء الخير
[20:39] <rocketnine> but I can't find a functional p2p apt-get, so I believe they are misinformed
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> http://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent
[20:42] <OhioGuy> ActionParsnip   ,  I have another question , since I have 13.04 to auto logon ,,, it doesn't ask me what user interface to use ,  I would prefer the "clasic" i/f   (gnome ? )   ,,, how would I make that default ?
[20:43] <onr> OhioGuy: log out
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> ohioguy: unity is a shell for Gnome
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> ohioguy: as onr says, log out, log in to your desired session. the last session is remebered and used
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> rocketnine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169297
[20:44] <excelsiora> ActionParsnip: Dr_willis: is wget -c a recommended way to download Ubuntu? It's usually the only thing that works for me. I'm always behind a firewall that blocks torrents, and if I download in my browser, it always stops halfway.
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Not for long, it won't be.
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> rocketnine: straight http downloads will more than likely be faster for updates
[20:44] <hazardous> ActionParsnip: can you not just grab the mini.iso
[20:44] <excelsiora> How do I ensure I keep getting updates?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> hazardous: sure
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> excelsiora: Check in Software Sources (Software and Updates in 13.04) under the Updates tab. What are your current settings?
[20:45] <lomo7> How can I get permission to cd inside root folder? - bash: cd: /root: Permission denied
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> excelsiora: keep running: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> lomo7: sudo -i ,you can do as you need
[20:46] <lomo7> ActionParsnip: thank you!
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> lomo7: why would you need to?
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> lomo7: Don't [ sudo -i ] unless you absotively, posilutely need to.
[20:47] <vic> how to unlock network kocked modem
[20:47] <OhioGuy> ActionParsnip   ,   thanks again    ,,, you da man !!
[20:47] <vic> how to unlock network locked modem
[20:47] <lomo7> ActionParsnip: and how from ubuntu desktop?
[20:47] <rocketnine> ActionParsnip: agreed.  I received some criticism on reddit and wanted to make sure I wasn't spreading a lesser-solution rather than a p2p implementation
[20:48] <vic> how to unlock network locked modem
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> lomo7: gksudo nautilus
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | vic
[20:48] <subz3r0> could anyone recommend me a network monitor tool? it should make statistics like day up/down, week dn/up, month....
[20:48] <vic> ubottu: ok
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: snmp
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> subz3r0: System Monitor's Performance tab will give you general traffic stats...
[20:49] <subz3r0> SonikkuAmerica: mhh?
[20:49] <subz3r0> have you read the full question?
[20:50] <lomo7> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much! and how to disable both?
[20:50] <lomo7> :)
[20:50] <subz3r0> it should create statistics... month down/up, day, week ... etc..l.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: yes, snmp can monitor and count those things, you can query it with a management tool
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> subz3r0: Oh... silly me.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> lomo7: keep users out of the sudo group
[20:51] <lomo7> ActionParsnip: command? :)
[20:51] <plotino> hello
[20:51] <lomo7> it's only me here, but it'll be good to know how to disable..
[20:51] <vic> hello can someone help me unlock network locked modem?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> lomo7: there is no command, its a group membership....
[20:51] <plotino> im trying to install lubuntu 13.04, but i got squashfs error at the end of installation
[20:51] <SonikkuAmerica> lomo7: Then you should probably stay in sudo if you're the only user.
[20:52] <MIlan-86> Does Nvidia run installer realy support  DKMS?
[20:52] <plotino> i have checked the iso burned to cd and its coorect
[20:52] <lomo7> ok thanks you guys :)
[20:52] <plotino> im running memtest now
[20:52] <plotino> it seems ok
[20:52] <plotino> next step?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> lomo7: users in the sudo group are system admins so have full system access. If you keep users out of the sudo group (which only admins can add users to) then they will not be able to do it
[20:53] <SonikkuAmerica> plotino: Try booting without the live media. If it dumps on you, reboot from the live media and yell at us again.
[20:53] <SonikkuAmerica> *talk to
[20:53] <excelsiora> what's the geeks guide to setting up your new ubuntu install?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> plotino: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:53] <OhioGuy> thanks again for the help and suggestions   ,, at this point everything is ok
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> excelsiora: omgubuntu has a guide
[20:53] <taime1> i have tried everything to get ubuntu to recognize my tv's resolution, including xrandr and even adding a pci express card. i cannot get a resolution greater than 1024x768. can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[20:54] <excelsiora> characters are too big, needed to enable workspaces, install irssi, gotta get chrome...
[20:54] <excelsiora> need some good .rc files too.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> taime1: what video chip are you using?
[20:54] <excelsiora> any reco's on dotfiles?
[20:54] <taime1> ActionParsnip: both on intel 82945 and ati radeon x300
[20:54] <excelsiora> I need some more fonts for my terminal
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> taime1: is the tv reporting edid ok?
[20:55] <taime1> ActionParsnip: i dont know
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> taime1: thats one of the first thing you should check...
[20:55] <taime1> ActionParsnip: i dont know how
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> taine1: check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log nobody is born knowing...
[20:56] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  or you could just try using the decent set of defaults...
[20:57] <plotino> ActionParsnip, yes i process md5sum
[20:57] <plotino> and its ok
[20:57] <plotino> SonikkuAmerica, sorry i did not understand your proposal
[20:57] <Dr_willis> bbl
[20:57] <taime1> ActionParsnip: what am i looking for in this file?
[20:57] <plotino> i have multiboot
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> plotino: if you used a CD did you burn the CD as slow as possible and not with the Windows CD burner
[20:58] <plotino> but at the moment the entry of lubutnu it has not been recognized by grub
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> taime1: resolutions detected, edid mentioned (or not)
[20:58] <plotino> i have used k3b
[20:58] <plotino> not at slowest rate i think
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> plotino: did you burn as slow as possible
[20:58] <plotino> but i have calculated the md5sum of cd also
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> plotino, What are the OS's and what has the grub control?
[20:58] <plotino> and its ok
[20:59] <plotino> ubuntu 10.10 with gerneric and realtime kernel and windws xp
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> plotino, Sorry I was not following never mind.
[20:59] <excelsiora> test
[20:59] <plotino> ?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> plotino: try a USB device
[21:00] <plotino> in my multiboot ststem i would like to add lubuntu
[21:00] <taime1> ActionParsnip: i see the words edid after radeon several times
[21:00] <plotino> but the installation has not been concluded successfully
[21:00] <plotino> m
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> m>
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> >
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ? Dang it!
[21:00] <plotino> what about trying to installl again with same media?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> taime1: you may need an xorg.conf file
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> plotino: That would be the next thing to do.
[21:01] <plotino> i will try after memetest :)
[21:03] <tannji> does anyone know if AMD  video driver install any better under 13.04 than they did in 12.10?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> tannji:  i imagine it will depend on your exact video chipset
[21:04] <derp> sup fools
[21:04] <tannji> Dr_Willis:  lol
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> derp: Do we look like fools here? :)
[21:05] <tannji> I am about to give up and just replace the card with an Nvidia
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> You can get decent video cards (for desktop/work ussage) for very reasonable $
[21:05] <betrayd> it may be just as hard
[21:05] <cyrano_> My Xserver keeps crashing when I use google chrome. If I use firefox it does not seem to do it. Anyone have any experience with an issue like this?
[21:06] <tannji> Chromium, and to a lesser extent Chrome cause issues on my install as well
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> got a GeForce GT 530  herre. on this old box.. gives me very few hassles.
[21:07] <tannji> Dr_Willis:  ya, was thinking about one of the 500 series myself
[21:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Intel 965: smooth as butter. (But ANCIENT.)
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> cyrano_: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> if i wanted a bigger card - id have to get a bigger power supply/ ;)
[21:08] <tannji> I almost wish Intel had bought Nvidia.  almost.....
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> tannji: Because AMD bought out ATi?
[21:08] <davethenoob> That'd be terrible. Then there wouldn't be much competition in the graphics card industry.
[21:08] <cyrano_> ActionParsnip: I'm on 12.04 precise
[21:09] <tannji> SonikkuAmerica:  not quite, more so because Intel writes quality driver suites
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> not really much competition as it stands
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> cyrano_: try renaming the config folder for the browser and rerun it
[21:09] <davethenoob> True :\
[21:09] <tannji> would have liked Intel to have bought out Creative as well
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> tannji: NO. NO. NOOOO!!!!
[21:10] <tannji> lmao
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> tannji: Not Creative Labs!!!
[21:10] <tannji> well, why not?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> You dont hear much about Creative  these days either
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> so not worth the headache
[21:10] <Meris> How can I limit the amount of system resources for desktop usage during file transfer to avoid slowing the system down to a crawl while transfering files at high speeds
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: True; however, Creative's devices are AWESOME.
[21:10] <tannji> the hardware is decent...  but they havent written a good driver since ZP camre out
[21:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: They are the SEGA of digital entertainment.
[21:11] <tannji> xp***
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> meris: use a high nice value
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  i stopped using them back when they totally blew the linux drivers for  .. err.. i forget the card..
[21:11] <tannji> lol
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> sonikkuamerica: there is a lot better than creative
[21:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Wellll... Linux support is rather lacking...
[21:11] <cyrano_> ActionParsnip: well it's not crashing now
[21:11] <Meris> ActionParsnip, so I should renice the processes busy with filetransfer?
[21:12] <tannji> the soundcard I really miss was soundstorm on Nvidia's motherboard chipset
[21:12] <davethenoob> I'm going to be honest with you guys. I'm here to ask a question. I have an ancient printer. And it only has 32-bit drivers for Ubuntu 9.04 and 10.04.... But it also has it for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 and Debian 6. Which one should I download?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> meris: yrs. sonething like 15 will make it slower but take more of a backseat
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> davethenoob:  its possible the drivers are allready in the repos
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> cyrano_: cool, it will rebuild the profile from the cloud
[21:13] <davethenoob> They're not,sadly. I try to add a printer. It recognized my printer, but it won't print anything
[21:13] <tannji> I would imagine that the repos would at least have a decent compatible driver for an old printer
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Their SoundBlaster(TM) stuff is still largely state-of-the-art if you despise built-in audio.
[21:13] <cyrano_> ActionParsnip: what could have made that happen? How do i prevent that from happening?
[21:13] <Meris> ActionParsnip, is there a way to ensure that this happens by default? I want to use my desktop at optimum capacity, even during file transfers.
[21:13] <dank101> What is the diffrence between a regular and optimus card
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> sonikkuamerica: ive seen pc sound cards for a few grand.
[21:14] <dank101> other then linux-unsupport
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> meris: could make an alias to the command
[21:14] <Meris> ActionParsnip, yes, for command line use that would suffice, but not for GUI use, or would it?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> dank101:  optimus has 2 video chipsets  normally an intel and nvidia -
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> dank101: optimus switches between the intel gpu in the cpu and nvidia as a cludge to save power
[21:15] <dank101> Now that
[21:15] <dank101> is
[21:15] <dank101> 100%
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: I haven't seen that much demand outside the let's-risk-our-heart-health-by-exchanging-our-private-health-insurance-for-knock-any-pitiful-computer-out-of-the-universe-parts world for stuff like what you mentioned, however.
[21:15] <dank101> STUPID!
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !ENTER
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> meris: sure, you can make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and it will be usable in GUI
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> dank101:  untill it doubles your battery life... then its Brilliant
[21:16] <tannji> does Kbuntu handle amd cards better than Unity does?
[21:16] <Meris> ActionParsnip, good idea, thank you :-)
[21:16] <dank101> Dr_Willis, my one hour battery
[21:16] <dank101> great
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> tannji:  all ubuntus use the same repos/drivers
[21:16]  * dank101 slow claps
[21:16] <catface> Hello
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> dank101:  take the ranting elsewhere
[21:16] <cyrano_> ActionParsnip: it just crashed again. Not sure if it's cause i was trying to go to voice.google.com or that it was downloading the settings and extensions
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> sonikkuamerica: for what most home users use sound cards for, onboard is fine and works with fewer issues than creative stuff
[21:17] <tannji> Dr_Willis: right, but it seems to be Unity specifically, and the related environment that gets bugged with amd cards
[21:17] <daddidio> k.  Got one computer setup...is there a way to install all same packages on other computer?  Make file with stuff in it, import on other computer?
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Right.
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> tannji:  compiz uses the 3d features..  kubuntu can use less eye candy
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> daddidio: copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:18] <MarconM> can i make download ubuntu mobile for install on my cell
[21:19] <MarconM> atrix
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> !phone > MarconM
[21:19] <doghead> Ok
[21:19] <MarconM> ok
[21:19] <doghead> Pm
[21:19]  * Timvde is interested too
[21:19] <Timvde> !phone > Timvde
[21:20] <doghead> I forget. Me stupid
[21:21] <blue_wolfy> !phone
[21:22] <davethenoob> "There was an error during the CUPS operation:'client-error-document-format-not-supported'" when I tried to print a test page using the generic driver. They don't have the driver for my printer listed.
[21:23] <nethunter> After upgrading to 13.04, my system runs very slow, and Chrome hangs after Middle-Clicking on a link, giving this error: "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Any pointers?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> davethenoob:  and whats the printer? i missed that bit of info
[21:23] <Jeena_> On my keyboard I have a "Calculator" media button. When I press it it opens the calculator app on top of everything else and gives the textBox the focus. I am writing a Twitter app (in Qt) and would like the exacly same behaviour but it seems that the calculator app has some magic because the window I open sometimes gets on top with focus but sometimes it opens randomly in the background, any idea what I would need to do to get it working like the c
[21:23] <Jeena_> alculator?
[21:24] <scumbum> Who that
[21:24] <betrayd> Jeena_: try wmctrl, can send it above all else
[21:25] <vlt> Hello. I need a tiny httpd. Just for sending one file. Any recommendation?
[21:25] <Meris> ActionParsnip, I've figured out the cause, it's a known bug for mount.ntfs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/392204
[21:25] <Jeena_> ah ok thanks for the word to google, will look at that betrayd
[21:25] <betrayd> Jeena_: or look up devilspie, can set some rules
[21:25] <tannji> Nethunter, did you google that error?  supposedly comes from using beta drivers
[21:25] <Jeena_> ok
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> !info tinyserver
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> http://tinyserver.sourceforge.net/
[21:26] <davethenoob> I tried using the PCL Laser Printer. It said it was printing, but the printer is idle. This doesn't make any sense to me, hahaha
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> oh windows. ;)
[21:26] <nethunter> tannji: I'm not using nVidia drivers at all, it's an AMD card.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> meris: ahh, you could always share a folder in Ubuntu (or install openssh-server and use sftp) and pull the data instead of push
[21:26] <nethunter> signon-ui is using 100% CPU
[21:26] <vlt> Dr_Willis: Something I can easily install on a low end machine.
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> heres a web server with only 200 lines of C code.. i just googled..
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> vlt:  look in the repos perhaps? theres several http servers
[21:27] <scumbum> vlt: just use ftp
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/systems/library/es-nweb/index.html
[21:27] <vlt> scumbum: The client wants HTTP
[21:27] <Meris> ActionParsnip, thanks for the suggestion, but both the source and destination are attached fysically to the same system.
[21:28] <Meris> ActionParsnip, fysically => physically
[21:28] <tannji> nethunter: do you have onboard graphics chipset in addition to your card?
[21:28] <nethunter> tannji: yeah
[21:28] <scumbum> vlt: abyss small web server
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> vlt: do you use dropbox?
[21:29] <vlt> ActionParsnip: No.
[21:29] <vlt> It's supposed to be locally, as in LAN
[21:29]  * Dr_Willis wonders if busybox has a web server feature.. it has everything else
[21:29] <tannji> I would look into purging any drivers you are not using, and make sure the onboard is disabled in chipset.  had some weird issues like that a while back
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> vlt: damn, you can make URLs out of files in your public folder and use it to give access to files
[21:29] <harris> how do i get wine tricks
[21:29] <vlt> I know I could install the full apache pkg but thought there was a smaller solution
[21:30] <daddidio> ActionParsnip: okay, got that, now how do i install them all?
[21:30] <esben> I have some trouble booting 13.04 after fresh install. With a 6450 radeon card i just get some odd graphics corruption and not even a tty to switch to.. Any tips?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> harris: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[21:30] <harris> raring
[21:30] <Meris> harris, you can download winetricks from the author, you can find the link by looking for it on winehq.org, don't know by heart
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> daddio: cd to the folder in terminal and run: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:31] <truexfan81> who would i talk to about a problem with the boot-repair cd?
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: winetricks is included in wine itself.
[21:31] <scumbum> vlt: set up small web server
[21:31] <Meris> SonikkuAmerica, not if you want the latsest edition.
[21:31] <Meris> SonikkuAmerica, not if you want the latest edition (sorry for the typo)
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Tru dat
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> harris: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> vlt:  i know theres at least 2 http servers in the repos.. most likely more..
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> vlt: apache2 is a great http server
[21:32] <vlt> Dr_Willis: Found micro-httpd
[21:33] <harris> there is no install button next to the crossover trial
[21:33] <harris> there is no install button next to the crossover trial
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> willis@SSDBuntu:~$ apt-cache search http  web server
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> found several
[21:33] <truexfan81> i'm trying to make the thing install grub, its asking me to run 3 commands in terminal which start with sudo chroot, problem is every time i do the 2nd or 3rd command the terminal disappears
[21:33] <Meris> harris, some things in winetricks can only be installed through the command-line
[21:34] <renzom> hi all, i'm having a kernel-panic everytime i start my notebook after upgrading to 13.04 from 12.10...anyone having the same issue? any thoughts?
[21:34] <harris> so how do i install it
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> harris: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/crossover-trial/
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  what do you mean by dissapears..
[21:34] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: i guess i mean it closes itself without warning
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  what command does that?
[21:35] <scumbum> vlt: how about lightpd
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> harris: use that link, may help
[21:35] <truexfan81> gimme a min to write it down and then type it here, thats on a different machine
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> harris: or use apt-get
[21:36] <harris> so apt-get crossover
[21:37] <nethunter> tannji: thanks, I'll try that.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> harris: no as crossover is not an option of apt-get
[21:37] <harris> then how do i install the trial
[21:37] <tannji> = )
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> harris:  'sudo apt-get install THEPACKAGENAME'
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> harris: you will also need the exact package name to use, you cannot guess stuff
[21:38] <Meris> SonikkuAmerica, what do you need crossover for?
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Meris: Wrong person.
[21:38] <Meris> SonikkuAmerica, sorry, was meant for harris
[21:38] <harris> me
[21:38] <Meris> SonikkuAmerica, my apologies.
[21:39] <RainbowW> help.ubuntu.com is hosed? that's not very helpful.
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> RainbowW:  if you are asking 'is the site down for other people'  .. that would be a helpfull question.
[21:40] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: 1. sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sda1" dpkg --configure -a
[21:40] <scumbum> Whats wrong with WINE
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  thats an incorrect command.. its 2 commands on one line
[21:41] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: it lists that as one line, irc may be wrapping it
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  do the chroot command, then onc eyou get a shell and do the dpkg command
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  its 2 COMMANDS on 2 seperate lines..
[21:41] <Draxelis> new nautilus is bad
[21:41] <Meris> RainbowW, help.ubuntu.com doesn't load here, but it might have been moved to another URL?
[21:41] <scumbum> harris: whats wrong with WINEHQ
[21:41] <Draxelis> it's truly unpolished
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> rainboww: try now
[21:41] <truexfan81> not in the gui, it only shows 3 commands, i'll make a pastebin the show you how it does it
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> got error 503 for help.ubuntu.cm
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> draxelis: then dont use it.....
[21:42] <harris> Meris,  i need to install a exe
[21:42] <Meris> harris, and Wine doesn't cut it for the exe you are trying to install?
[21:42] <scumbum> harris: install WINETRICKS
[21:42] <harris> no
[21:43] <Draxelis> ActionParsnip,  how? I just installed 13.04. Many problems with this new nautilus. Do you guys experience nautilus bugs as well?
[21:43] <harris> i did how do i install from exe
[21:43] <RainbowW> ActionParsnip, it answers but i still get broken links on images. but i can live with this. if you did something, thank you.
[21:43] <harris> un winetricks
[21:43] <Draxelis> it's super buggy
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> draxelis: there are plenty of file managers in the repos
[21:43] <scumbum> harris: whats the app
[21:43] <Aww> Draxelis, works perfectly for me
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> rainboww: didnt do anything
[21:43] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: the boot repair tool shows it just like this http://pastebin.com/wimgcjg2
[21:43] <Draxelis> Aww,  I can show you how to make it crash :))
[21:44] <Aww> Draxelis, please show me
[21:44] <Meris> Draxelis, Nautilus is also buggy with me, but I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 here.
[21:44] <Aww> xD
[21:44] <Draxelis> it's to do with "make linkw"
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> draxelis: remeber, linux is about choice.....try pcmanfm. it rocks imho. or thunar or rox or dolphon or konqueror
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> draxelis: you dont have to use nautilus
[21:45] <scumbum> harris: after WINE installed right clicke exe
[21:45] <Draxelis> ActionParsnip,  I like nautilus, but I'm just saying that the new one seems unpolished and I'm wondering if other people experience the same problems.
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  do it one command at a time.  you chroot into the system. then try to fix things
[21:45] <Meris> ActionParsnip, PCManFM? Suffers from occasional massive file corruption during copy. No thanks.
[21:45] <Draxelis> Aww,  give me a sec, I'll explain how to crash it :))
[21:45] <Aww> Draxelis, okay :o
[21:45] <Meris> ActionParsnip, and that is a know bug.
[21:45] <truexfan81> ok so everything after the "" i do as a separate command?
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  you really DONT need to chroot each time
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> chroot /whatever/sda1
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> then do the  3 commands
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> meris: its the one I use, but I use cli for file stuff these days, i find it faster
[21:46] <truexfan81> kk
[21:46] <truexfan81> bbiab
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> that way you can see whats going o
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> on
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> meris: never had an issue tbh
[21:46] <scumbum> Vlah
[21:46] <Meris> ActionParsnip, I use cli for almost everything, excpet when I want to manipulate specific files that do not fit into a regex.
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> meris: and web browsing :-)
[21:47] <harris> that doesnt work scumbum
[21:47] <harris> nothing happens after right click
[21:48] <Meris> ActionParsnip, yes, webbrowsing as well. Also, certain games...
[21:48] <scumbum> What is the application u want to install
[21:49] <truexfan81> ok Dr_Willis i'm back
[21:49] <subz3r0> ActionParsnip: thx for the advice but i found a better solution. Its called "vnStat" awesome tool. lovin it :)
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> meris: yeah, its cos of my job. learning vi too. very cool
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: cool
[21:49] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: chroot works fine, dpkg --configure -a works fine, terminal closes after apt-get install -fy
[21:49] <Meris> harris, did you try PlayOnLinux? It is mainly for installing games, but several popular apps are also included. Try it.
[21:50] <scumbum> harris: did you install winehq from software center
[21:50] <subz3r0> it does exactly what I want. making stats day,week, month, year and you can compare the stats and much more. just awesome
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  what are you trying to fix anyway?
[21:50] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: trying to remove lilo and install grub
[21:51] <scumbum> harris: you need winehq installed
[21:51] <truexfan81> i forgot to mention its a debian system, they don't have a nice grub repair tool tho
[21:51] <Meris> ActionParsnip, I have a love/ hate with vi myself. It's extremely fast and efficient, but when you think you are in command mode and you are not or vice versa, it's X-(
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  how do you even have lilo? you on some old old machine?
[21:51] <RainbowW> i have a user who wants to browse a website from her cell phone, but wants to appear as if she's coming from the ubuntu box. would an openvpn tunnel from the phone to the ubuntu server be the right direction to go to solve this problem?
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81:  sounds like you got deeper issues if that command is causing some sort of crash thats closing the x term
[21:52] <OerHeks> harris still trying to make the iOS game hack exe work ? > http://ultimateprogamecheats.blogspot.nl/2012/12/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> RainbowW:  or a proxy
[21:52] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: debian wheezy netinstall, kept putting me at grub repair so i gave up on it and installed lilo
[21:52] <pervy> ciao
[21:52] <pervy> >/list
[21:52] <scumbum> I like gedit or kate
[21:52] <Draxelis> Aww, use this scenario and nautilus will crash: on your desktop create one link (shortcut) to a folder that is on a partition that isnt mounted automatically when OS starts. Restart. Boot up Ubuntu and obviously links don't work since partition isn't mounted. After you mount the partition, 1) these shortcuts still don't work; 2) if you go to that mounted partition and right click 'properties' of that folder that you linked to, new n
[21:52] <Draxelis> autilus will crash.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> meris: its good to learn imho. its on all nix boxes too, nano isnt always around, especially on the solaris boxes i look after
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> !list > pervy
[21:53] <Meris> ActionParsnip, nano is much too limited for my use of vi. I just have to grin and bear it from time to time ;-P
[21:53] <minas> Today I logged in my guest account and I noticed that when minimizing a window, the animation was slower than when doing so in my (non-guest) account. And it looks cooler. Is there a way to do it, through Compiz config maybe? (I'm using 13.04)
[21:53] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: now i'm trying to install grub to fix another problem lol custom kernel is mounting the hdds as readonly, lilo is not giving me a menu to choose kernels, thats why i want grub, so i can boot back the the generic kernel
[21:54] <ChrisHPHP> hey there, is there a specific chat for ubuntu 13.04?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> meris: aye but for simple changes I still use it.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> chrishphp: here as it is released
[21:54] <scumbum> Vi and nano are a pain whatd wrong with gedit
[21:54] <minas> ChrisHPHP, this one will do :)
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> scumbum: servers dont have guis
[21:55] <minas> scumbum, they are useful when conencted through SSH and don't have a gui available
[21:55] <harris> yes
[21:55] <Meris> scumbum, have you ever seen gedit on a router? Hmm?
[21:55] <scumbum> Ok
[21:55] <minas> and gedit? Come on man, geany :)
[21:55] <harris> it says it works with linux
[21:55] <ChrisHPHP> I got this error when trying to add cinnamon to the repos  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610148/
[21:56] <scumbum> harris: whats going on now
[21:56] <harris> trying to open the exe
[21:57] <Meris> harris, could you please elaborate on what program you are trying to install?
[21:57] <harris> http://speed-helps.blogspot.com/2012/11/clash-of-clans-hack-tool.html
[21:57] <savio> Hey guys
[21:58] <scumbum> harris: did you install wine
[21:58] <harris> yes
[21:59] <Meris> harris, I see. Crossover won't help you with that, I'm afraid. Only useful for industry standard major programs like Adobe Suites, Microsoft Office and similar mainstream programs.
[21:59] <harris> ok
[21:59] <scumbum> harris: right click exe and select open with wine
[21:59] <harris> wine or wine program loader
[22:00] <savio> 2nd one
[22:00] <scumbum> harris: yeah program loader
[22:00] <Meris> harris, try wibom, that way you won't contaminate your main .wine prefix
[22:01] <Biomechd> hey guys, i think i might've set my font-rendering to root-only when trying to install a new font. how can i change it back?
[22:02] <Biomechd> right now, every character (except for maybe spaces) gets rendered as a box.
[22:02] <scumbum> harris: what heck is clash of clans
[22:02] <harris> a really fun app
[22:02] <Meris> scumbum, looks like a cheat program to me.
[22:03] <OerHeks> running an .exe on linux to cheat iOs, funny indeed
[22:03] <harris> right click and wine program loader does absoutly nothing
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> !cinnamon
[22:03] <betrayd> OerHeks: extreme if you ask me
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> OerHeks:  and it has to access the iphone via the usb cable aparently...  in wine...  and it uses .net...
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> OerHeks:  hes been fighting it all day
[22:03] <Anti-S1eep> Greetings.
[22:04] <Meris> harris, try #winehq, they might be able to help you. This is hardly #ubuntu-specific.
[22:04] <betrayd> Dr_Willis: some fights you got to cut your losses
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> ChrisHPHP, Cinnamon is not really a ubuntu support topic, you might try the ubuntu forums, if no one answers here
[22:04] <harris> scumbum,
[22:04] <harris> it says it can be installed on linux
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> harris:  perhaps you chould be checking with that apps support forums/site/whatever then
[22:05] <Meris> Dr_Willis,, are you using a 64bits OS perchance? dotnet on 64bits might as well be called dontnet
[22:05] <scumbum> harris: that hack may need game installed first
[22:05] <OerHeks> harris, where does it say that?
[22:05] <harris> the game is for ios
[22:05] <harris> the hack is for mac windows and linux
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  you plug in your phone, run that app.. and it hacks your game.. somehow...
[22:05] <harris> no you dont need to plug in phone
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  and the site is somewhat susicious
[22:06] <esben> What is wrong: fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 -- display is corrupted, no tty
[22:06] <harris> put in username
[22:06] <esben> radeon driver on HD 6450
[22:06] <Meris> harris, please take my advice and run wibom so you won't contaminate your main .wine prefix.
[22:06] <Intii> Hey, can anyone help me with configuring my Apache and Ubuntu server box with the correct permissions so when I upload files everything just works correctly? Everytime I upload a WordPress install I get permission issues when trying to do updates and stuff...
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> esben: install updates and the proprietary video driver
[22:06] <harris> ok then what
[22:07] <esben> i want to use the radeon driver...
[22:07] <esben> And it should work
[22:07] <andreligne> Yo guys! I would like to swap my Alt keys and I can't get it to work with Xmodmap
[22:07] <Meris> harris, than you can try to install dotnet in that wine bottle in wibom. *try* is the right word here, because dotnet is a pita under wine.
[22:08] <harris> what a what a what
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> the winetricks tool can setup .net i think in wine
[22:08] <savio> I really struggling with this androirc can anyone suggest an good client for irc
[22:08] <esben> Some configuration is obviously bugged from canonicals side...
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> savio:  for ubuntu?
[22:08] <dcosta> any one use Lirc arround here ?
[22:08] <harris> how do i install exe using wine tricks
[22:08] <Meris> Dr_Willis, only on 32 bits OS'es and who in his/ her right mind runs 32 bits OS'es these days?
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> harris:  you dont. winetricks is a special tool for wine to configure/install stuff  not install arbitary exes
[22:09] <harris> i just want to use it
[22:09] <savio> Dr_Willis for an android
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> savio:  i use andchat on my phone i recall. or ssh/weechat  :)
[22:10] <Meris> harris, it *might* help you to install dotnet, but only if you are using a 32 bits wine prefix.
[22:10] <Ansikt> My machine will not boot and I am absolutely at my wits end :(
[22:10] <dcosta> any one use lirc arround here ? the tv infra red software
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> savio:  theres a weechat-client for android that connets to weechat on you linux box also
[22:10] <Ansikt> dcosta !ask
[22:10] <Ansikt> Oh, I guess this channel doesn't do that.
[22:11] <harris> when i run wine /home/harris/Downloads/ClashofClansHack.exe
[22:11] <harris> i get
[22:11] <savio> Ansikt give more detail
[22:11] <harris> wine: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[22:11] <Ansikt> savio: working on it.
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> wow.. that clash of clans hacker tool.. wants you to do 'things' befor it will even download... that just screams  at you to not trust it
[22:11] <dcosta> i got a pinacle internal tv card cant get remote control working i read a lot a manuals but no one seems to work
[22:12] <Biomechd> i accidentally set my font-rendering to root-only in the terminal with something like "sudo chmod 644 -f /usr/share/fonts*", how do i change it back?
[22:12] <harris> no some other sites dont have surveys but i need it
[22:12] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, yes we have noticed that hours ago
[22:12] <dcosta> im using 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:15:33 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[22:12] <ericluwolf> Biomechd, can you open up a virtual console and then sudo chmod the permissions back?
[22:12] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: what's the user code?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> OerHeks:  more im looking at it.. the more it seems to be just malware..
[22:12] <Ansikt> In any case, I uninstalled windows from sda1, and now grub won't start.  That's fairly normal, I figure, so I boot a live USB and install/run boot-repair.  Boot repair claims that the action was successful, but upon reboot I still get greeted with the NO OPERATING SYSTEM FOUND message.  But wait, there's more
[22:13] <johnjohn1011> harris: are you using the 1.5.x version of wine perhaps?
[22:13] <harris> http://www.cheatsoffuture.com/clash-of-clans-hack-tool/
[22:13] <Meris> Dr_Willis, a dotnet install is not that suspicious, it's a plague these days.Dotnet40 install won't work at all. Even winetricks says so.
[22:13] <harris> how do i find out
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  no.. the site its on is suspicious..
[22:13] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, please do not suggest him to run as root :P
[22:13] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: 644 or whatever i originally entered is obviously root. what's the default user?
[22:13] <alien2050> Ansikt: do you do a grub-install to the drive?
[22:13] <Meris> Dr_Willis, I don't argue with that :-)
[22:13] <dcosta> Ansikt,  can you help me ?
[22:13] <harris> when i search wine in the dash i only get configute and uninstall
[22:13] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: let me check on my machine
[22:13] <alien2050> Ansikt: usually works
[22:14] <savio> Ansikt try chroot method
[22:14] <randy_> Hey everyone
[22:14] <randy_> what's happening tonight?
[22:14] <johnjohn1011> what up rando?
[22:15] <randy_> doing good
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> choose one of the offers to download.... yea..   thats soo  1990s
[22:15] <Meris> harris, if you really want to run it, it *might* just run in a VirtualBox install of a suitable Windows version. if you have a spare Windows license laying around that allows you to install it into a virtual machine.
[22:15] <Ansikt> So, I try this again to no avail.  So, thinking that because my entire linux setup was encased in an extended volume (Windows took three partitions D;) maybe that screwed with my boot.  Whatever.  I download super-grub-disk and boot into the host machine and try running grub-update, grub-install and boot-repair from there.  Again, my machine gives me no love.
[22:15] <alien2050> Ansikt: from the liveusb, I usually do sudo mkdir /1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /1 (where sda1 is your linux partition, then sudo grub-install --root-directory=/1 then reboot, bingo
[22:15] <randy_> have a quick question
[22:15] <randy_> i got fluendo dvd player on 13.04
[22:15] <dcosta> !ASK
[22:15] <dcosta> !ask
[22:15] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: it's 755 on my machine
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  i really like how the site has a big 'Protected by the DMCA'  Icon on it..
[22:16] <randy_> i get "Could not get/set settings from/on resource" with fluendo dvd player on 13.04
[22:16] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: and how do i open a virtual terminal?
[22:16] <harris> i have wine 1.4.1
[22:17] <Meris> Dr_Willis, yes, that is really assuring, that. Hmmprfff >_<
[22:17] <Ansikt> So, from here I am really perplexed.  So, I make the Ubuntu live usb again.  This time, I use parted to make a ~10 gig primary partition at the beginning of the disk.  I checked the partition and install Ubuntu 12.10 in it.  So, I reboot my machine and NO OPERATING SYSTEM greets me.
[22:17] <dcosta> any one have lirc working ?
[22:17] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: Ctrl + Alt + F1
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> Ansikt, From the desktop you would run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  X is the mbr of the hd then run sudo update grub
[22:18] <Ansikt> wilee-nilee:  I tried that.
[22:18] <RainbowW> i'm looking at h.u.c/10.04/serverguide/openvpn.html ... i've installed openvpn, created keys, massaged the configuration, and i want to start the daemon ... but init.d/openvpn was not installed. what did i miss?
[22:18] <Meris> dcosta, there might be a separate #lirc channel here, if the project is still actively maintained
[22:19] <CarlFK> after I edit  /etc/grub.d/25_ipxe, what  to I run to regenerate grub.cfg?
[22:19] <Ansikt> At this point I would just reinstall the whole damn thing, but I've got an encrypted home and there's some sensitive data that I haven't backed up yet.  *sigh*
[22:19] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: so do i log in as root or just my normal user?
[22:19] <savio> Ansikt check your hard drive cable i get the same problem while back
[22:20] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: actually never mind
[22:20] <LiquidDemocracy> I just did a release upgrade and now I can not log into the GUI anymore because my /boot has 0 bytes left. With what command can I completely purge old kernels?
[22:20] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: your normal user should suffice. Then sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/share/fonts
[22:20] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: And then to get back to a GUI, just Ctrl + Alt + F7
[22:20] <dcosta> Meris,  im there also no one answer
[22:20] <Ansikt> savio:  I might as well give it a shot, but again, I CAN still access the harddrive.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> Ansikt, This a wubi install?
[22:21] <Jeena_> betrayd got it working nicely with wmctrl, thank you so much for your help!
[22:21] <davidscherer> I just did an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 via the Update Manager and after the reboot part I'm stuck at the loading screen right before the last dot.
[22:21] <randy_> Rainbow: I installed openvpn package on 12.04 server and it was fine
[22:21] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, uninstall them tru softwarecenter/synaptic
[22:21] <Ansikt> wilee-nilee:  Nope.  /home is native ext4 and / is ext2, both on an extended partition.
[22:21] <Brittany> Hey guys. I'm running a piece of software through Wine. It works very well, but unfortunately, in areas such as menus and drop down boxes, no text is displayed. it is a blank list. Any idea how I can get this kinda text to display, guys?
[22:21] <Meris> Dr_Willis, look a bit further on the same page: "Diablo III server emulator"....Right. <grin>
[22:21] <LiquidDemocracy> OerHeks, I can not get into the GUI. Please see what I wrote above.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, try nomodeset
[22:22] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, oh wrong, with 0 bytes left, did you get an error upgrading?
[22:22] <LiquidDemocracy> After entering the password on the login page it will jump right back to the login page.
[22:22] <LiquidDemocracy> OerHeks, yes
[22:22] <RainbowW> why would apt-get not install a file in /etc/init.d/ if it's in the package? i don't understand why this script hasn't installed.
[22:22] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: How?
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | davidscherer
[22:22] <randy_> Rainbow: I'm not sure either.
[22:23] <LiquidDemocracy> There are 6 old kernels. How can I delete them? sudo apt-get purge vmlinuz-3-0.0-14 ?
[22:24] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, there is a one-liner > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098490&page=2&p=12426110#post12426110
[22:24] <chomwitt> in a fresh install of 12.04 LTS from dvd should i see an option to upgrade to latest point release?
[22:24] <chomwitt> should-> shouldnt
[22:24] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: Should I hard reboot then? I can't get ALT + SysReq + REISUB does not work.
[22:25] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, or the same line, only with dpkg > http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[22:25] <LiquidDemocracy> OerHeks, thx but is there a shorter version to delete one particular one?
[22:26] <randy_> Any idea what "Could not get/set settings from/on resource" means with fluendo dvd player on 13.04?  It worked on 12.04 no problem
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> chomwitt:  lts releases will ask to upgrade to the next lts release. unless you check some setting to tell them to upgrade to any newer releases.
[22:27] <scumbum> harris: did you get mono installed
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Can you alt-f1 to the tty and reboot, or just shutdown with the poer button if you are just stuck.
[22:27] <harris> no
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> power*
[22:27] <Ansikt> So, yeah.  I'm going to go try to check my harddrive cable.  Any other suggestions, folks?
[22:29] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: the command you gave me didn't work. i'm still seeing boxes.
[22:29] <betrayd> Jeena_: thats good news !
[22:29] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: Did you try changing the font in your terminal itself? Perhaps that will fix it.
[22:29] <ronit> how to identify my wireless card
[22:30] <randy_> ronit: lspci if it's a pci card; lsusb -v if it's attached to usb
[22:31] <ronit> neeed help
[22:31] <Meris> It's been nice here Gotta go, have fun using Ubuntu
[22:31] <ronit> randy_ ty
[22:32] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: i'm wondering if i got the directory wrong. i think i recall something about truetype in the directory path when i messed it up.
[22:32] <harris> no
[22:33] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: do you remember what exactly you did and where you were on your filesystem to cause the fault?
[22:33] <scumbum> harris: try SUDO APT-GET INSTALL MONO-COMPLETE
[22:35] <harris> i already did that sc
[22:35] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: i'd look at my browser history so i could give you the exact link and commands i ran, but i'm still having this font problem.
[22:35] <harris> scumbum,
[22:35] <paul137> anyone familiar with openssh?
[22:36] <scumbum> harris: did mono install
[22:37] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: i have a fresh intallation and as i see from lsb-release it must be 12.04.0 . But the update-manager show no new packages to downoload or a point-release new message.
[22:37] <Guest5643> ciao
[22:37] <Guest5643> !list
[22:38] <harris> no
[22:38] <paul137> been battling file sharing between to ubuntu computers with openssh
[22:39] <paul137> does computer with server need a private ip to connect to it?
[22:40] <ronit> how to install wireless driver 802.11 linux sta
[22:40] <harris> scumbum, no
[22:40] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: I don't know then. I wish I could help you but I need to know what you did before corrupting your terminal...
[22:40] <ronit> how to install wireless driver 802.11 linux sta  in terminal
[22:41] <troulouliou_dev> hi si there anybody using gnome 3.8 on 13.04 ? is it stable ?
[22:41] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: maybe i just have the file directory wrong. what command can i use to see all the folders in a directory?
[22:41] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: ls -l
[22:42] <harris> scumbum, well
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> chomwitt:  just do a sudo apt-get update,. and sudo apt-get upgrade and see what happens
[22:43] <davidscherer> Okay, I have no idea where to set nomodeset adding to the end of GRUB didn't work, but I was able to boot in and run update manager and it says 13.04 is available, should I upgrade to that?
[22:43] <scumbum> harris: do u have winetricks installed
[22:43] <harris> yes
[22:43] <davidscherer> Additionally, I can't really do anything.
[22:43] <davidscherer> I had to use Ctrl+Alt+T to get a terminal to rub update-manager
[22:44] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: when i try to access the /usr/share folder from the terminal, it says the directory doesn't exist,even though it shows up with "ls -l"
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Not without a update and upgrade within the install, that might fix any problems.
[22:44] <davidscherer> And I keep getting Ubuntu has experienced and internal error, and show details just shows /usr/bin/cairo-dock and a loading circle
[22:45] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: are you trying to cd to the directory or do a chmod on it
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, That is apport reporting, tick the ignore in the popup.
[22:45] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: Update manager says I'm up to date but I'm running 12.10 and 13.04 is available.
[22:45] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: i'm trying to cd to it so i can navigate the folders and make sure i have the directory right for chmod
[22:45] <harris> scumbum, yes
[22:45] <Ansikt> So, I just opened up my laptop's case, unscrewed the harddrive took it out, reinserted it, and then put the whole thing back together.  No luck.
[22:46] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: make sure you're typing the absolute path
[22:46] <davidscherer> And I can't seem to actually get the GUI working completely,
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, So in details what is the problem.
[22:46] <davidscherer> I have a background image, but no taskbar at the top.
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, When you upgrade a release you generally have to reinstall graphic divers if you had to install them in the privious OS.
[22:47] <randy_> davidscherer: is this 13.04?
[22:47] <scumbum> harris: is their options in winetrick to install mono or net framework
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> 12.10
[22:47] <harris> how do i open wine tricks
[22:48] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: /usr/bin/cairo-doc and it says it crashed with sigsegv
[22:48] <davidscherer> randy_: 12.10 from 12.04
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, cairo crashes in my 13.04 so I would just use it if it works honestly.
[22:49] <davidscherer> Also "Application compiz crashed unexpectedly"
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> harris:  http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, I never upgrade releases, you might try a live cd of what you want and see if it runs.
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Or make another user and see how it runs.
[22:50] <scumbum> harris: look for winetricks in applications
[22:50] <harris> i opened it
[22:50] <harris> where do i look
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> If using Unity harris , you can just type 'winetricks' into the serc box../ or just run winetricks from a terminal
[22:51] <harris> i did
[22:51] <harris> its running
[22:51] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: thanks. i'll try
[22:52] <harris> i dont know where to look for install mono
[22:52] <kennettAZ> I updated my system and rebooted and now the system won't load. I'm not sure what version of Ubuntu Server I'm running.
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> kennettAZ, And you feel that is enough info to get help? ;)
[22:53] <scumbum> Try to install that exe from winetricks. It may install mono
[22:53] <kennettAZ> Sorry I wasn't sure what all to put in.
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> winetricks may have a button/option to install mono also
[22:54] <harris> ok im installing mono 2.10.8
[22:54] <scumbum> harris: how old R you
[22:54] <davidscherer> Okay, It looks like Gnome shell is working, but Ubuntu Default doesn't work.
[22:55] <harris> 16
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Do you know the graphic /chip/card?
[22:56] <scumbum> harris: how did u finnally get mono
[22:56] <harris> its loading
[22:56] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: ATI
[22:56] <harris> i mean downloading
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, lspci in the terminal will tell you exactly.
[22:57] <kennettAZ> wilee-nilee, I'm new to Linux so I'm not sure what all info is needed.
[22:57] <scumbum> harris: how did you get mono to download
[22:57] <harris> threw the winetricks
[22:57] <CiscoNinja> hello i installed GNS3 from binary , how can i uninstall it please?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> CiscoNinja:  from binary.. meaning how exactly
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | kennettAZ at least the release and details
[22:58] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: AMD ATI RS88
[22:58] <CiscoNinja> Dr_Willis, tar zxvf <filename> , etc
[22:58] <davidscherer> RS**0*
[22:58] <davidscherer> Sight
[22:58] <davidscherer> RS880***
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> CiscoNinja:  tar just exracts the contents.. if it had an Installer script.. see if it has an uninstaller script.
[22:59] <CiscoNinja> Dr_Willis, ok, thank you will do
[22:59] <KamranMackey> hey guys
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Does any of this look familiar? http://askubuntu.com/questions/78906/ati-amd-proprietary-fglrx-graphics-install-fails-how-can-i-resolve-the-problem
[23:01] <kennettAZ> wilee-nilee, I forgot what release it's running but I think it's Ubuntu Server 12.04 and when I try to boot the system I just get a blinking -
[23:02] <scumbum> harris: you get tha
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> kennettAZ, #ubuntu-server maybe
[23:02] <scumbum> harris: you get the exe going yet
[23:02] <harris> yes
[23:03] <tannji> David: that purge remove fglrx set of commands worked for me
[23:03] <kennettAZ> wilee-nilee OK sorry.
[23:03] <scumbum> Harris
[23:03] <harris> yes
[23:04] <scumbum> harris: able to run r
[23:04] <scumbum> Exe
[23:04] <KamranMackey> hello?
[23:04] <KamranMackey> anyone there?
[23:04] <harris> yes
[23:04] <KamranMackey> hi harris
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> 1677 people here KamranMackey
[23:04] <harris> hi
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> minus the bots. ;)
[23:05] <scumbum> harris: does it run
[23:05] <harris> yes
[23:05] <scumbum> Cool
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  now it will haxxor his account. ;)
[23:05] <KamranMackey> Yeah I just had to switch to a different server on freenode :)
[23:06] <scumbum> Dr_Willis: lol trojan spyware virus jey
[23:07] <scumbum> Keylogger
[23:07] <scumbum> Allinone
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> we can only hope, lol
[23:07] <Unspeakable> Read it: http://www.unspeakable.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  they make those easier to install
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> Unspeakable:  and thats ubuntu related? or are you just spamming?
[23:08] <MartynKeigher> hey i want to install a bot my ubuntu server that will record chat log of my IRC room. any suggestions/recommendations?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  most irc clients have logging support.
[23:08] <MartynKeigher> sadly bnc4free arent being very supportive.
[23:08] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: i just thought you might be interested to know i fixed my server machine, did it from the recovery console on the debian wheezy netinstall disc :)
[23:09] <MartynKeigher> and my client wont be on 24/7 unlike my room.
[23:09] <scumbum> At the least he probably sent download link in email. Spam fills inbox
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  then whats going to be running the bnc thing?
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> tinfoil hat spam lol
[23:10] <MartynKeigher> i have an acocunt with bnc4free and i connect to freenode channels via it. i was wanted setup a bot on my channel to log the chat and present it on a website.
[23:11] <MartynKeigher> if i need to install a bot on my ubuntu server to do it and connect it to my channel that way...then thats fine.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  you could just run your own znc server on your machine and let it log.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  or a client.. I dont know what bnc4free does..
[23:11] <MartynKeigher> on my ubuntu server?
[23:12] <bleemoo> Question about upgrading. I am currently running 12.10. I'm not a huge fan of Unity, and getting Gnome to work in 12.10 was complicated at best. I know Ubuntu-GNOME is now an official flavor; is there a way I can upgrade directly to it, or is that only an option on a new install??
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> bleemoo:  just install gnome shell and select it at the login screen
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> I had no issues geting gnome shell working on 12.10
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> thought it was rather trivial...
[23:14] <bleemoo> That was the advice I got for 12.10, and it worked but was messy and buggier than it should be. Or maybe GNOME is just inherently buggier than I think it is.
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> bleemoo:  no idea what you did.. but i dont recall hearing of many people with issues running gnome-shell on 12.10
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> if you want the latest gnome shell you will want to be using 13.04 however
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> never had problems with the shell form 12.04 to 13.04
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> from*
[23:16] <tannji> so far 13.04 is running fine, and Unity is noticeably smoother as well.
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> good additions in the 13.04 shell
[23:16] <bleemoo> *shrug* Perhaps I installed it wrong. Things like I can't right-click on icons in the menu bar anymore have been frustrating.
[23:16] <tannji> on a related note: Just realized I havent logged into win7 in 3 weeks... lol
[23:17] <alien2050> tannji: I definitely would call that good news
[23:17] <tannji> lol, well... its all relative... I also stopped trying to make amd drivers work 3 weeks ago  = )
[23:17] <scumbum> bleemoo: are u talking about gnome 2 or gnome 3
[23:19] <bleemoo> Uh... I'm not sure.
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> well its time to clarify what you mean then.... ;)
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> its a HUGE detail
[23:19] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: ok. it turned out that i have a problem with my internet connection.
[23:20] <tannji> lol@Dr-Willis....  nitpicky!
[23:20] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: now update-manager list all the 500MB of updates :-)
[23:21] <Stameni> were there any updates since official relese of ubuntu 13.04 ?
[23:21] <Stameni> whenever i check, there are no updates available
[23:23] <DarkEra> Stameni, i think not, so don't worry about it
[23:23] <scumbum> bleemoo: mate or cinnamon seem better
[23:23] <Stameni> DarkEra,  tnx, i was thinking that something is wrong with my packages
[23:24] <DarkEra> Stameni, the update manager will pop up once updates are available
[23:24] <bleemoo> scumbum: "seem better" is pretty subjective; what about them is better?
[23:25] <scumbum> bleemoo: we could start flaming war like comparing KDE GNOME etc etc...
[23:25] <DarkEra> Stameni, also, most of the time after the final release there are just a few updates and sometimes not :)
[23:25] <bleemoo> I have no desire to do that at all.
[23:25] <Stameni> DarkEra, tnx for the explanation
[23:26] <DarkEra> you're welcome
[23:26] <bleemoo> But I do want a GUI that I will be happy with and that will work with my non-touch-screen device and for my non-admin skillset.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> for low end or old skool type gui - its hard to beat lubuntu
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> for somthing more mondern gnome-shell  is comming along nicely. unity in 13.10 is also getting more polished all the time
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> havent really noticed whats new in kde in 13.10
[23:27] <johnjohn1011> lubuntu is less resource intensive than xubuntu?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> johnjohn1011:  yes.
[23:27] <OerHeks> Kubuntu takes less resources than unity.
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/see-whats-new-in-kubuntu-1304-raring.html   whats new in Kubuntu ;)
[23:27] <scumbum> bleemoo: install them all. I think cinamon is easiest to install. If any ask to change display mannager. Do not. Keep lightdm. My thoughts best for dual monitor login window
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Gnome-shell is officially (some time in the future) adding its own gnome-2 fallback type mode.. so once that happens these gnome-2 forks may go away
[23:29] <sz_alex> helo
[23:29] <sz_alex> hello
[23:29] <bleemoo> Install more than one GUI? That... actually makes a lot of sense; I'm not sure why I didn't think of it before now. Thanks.
[23:29] <harris> from running wine /home/harris/Downloads/Clash
[23:29] <harris> err:module:import_dll Library MSVBVM60.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\harris\\Downloads\\Clash.exe") not found
[23:29] <harris> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\harris\\Downloads\\Clash.exe" failed, status c0000135
[23:30] <scumbum> Hare
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> harris:  use the winetricks tool to install that msvb library perhaps.
[23:30] <gambolputty> hi
[23:30] <harris> hi
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> bleemoo:  i have all the major desktops installed.. ;) about the only one i dont use is xubuntu
[23:31] <scumbum> harris: virtual box with complete install of windows may be your best bet to run hacked exe's
[23:32] <gambolputty> I could use some help.  I was upgrading ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 via downloaded files and the upgrading of the files crashed.  I don't want to totally install 13.04 again because that would erase some vital files I've copied over.  How can install 13.04 without losing anything?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> gambolputty:  best thing to do would be use a live cd. and backup those files somewhere.. just in case
[23:33] <gambolputty> they're already on my old computer, but I don't want to copy them over again
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> gambolputty:  recoverying from a failed upgrade. can be very hard.
[23:33] <LiquidDemocracy> I need some help. After the upgrade to 13.04 I can not log into Ubuntu anymore. After entering the password for 2 seconds is seems to load the desktop but then it jumps right back to the login windows.
[23:33] <LiquidDemocracy> window
[23:33] <gambolputty> I was using another program during the upgrade
[23:33] <gambolputty> virtualbox in this case
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  does the guest user work?
[23:34] <harris> scumbum, that takes too long
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  common issue is the .Xauthority file in the users home gets owned by root. try logging in at the console and move/renameing the file
[23:34] <gambolputty> in my case the computer does boot up, but all I see is a graphical screen and no logon ability
[23:34] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, hold on. I will try.
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> harris:  how long have you been at this? :)
[23:34] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, yes it does.
[23:34] <harris> idk
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  Try the .Xauthority trick.
[23:35] <punter> Is there no package I can install to get the system-tray back in Ubuntu 13.04?
[23:35] <scumbum> harris: not really install windows from iso. Less time than you spent already.
[23:36] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, what is that?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> punter:  cairo-dock (and other docks) might have a system tray.
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  its a security file that gets owned by root by mistake at times.
[23:36] <punter> Dr_Willis: excellent, thanks!
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  common issue is the .Xauthority file in the users home gets owned by root. try logging in at the console and move/renameing the file
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> punter:  i mentoned the use of a dock like a few hrs ago to you i recall....
[23:37] <l057c0d3r> scumbum, well..  punter coould possibly check out ubuntu gnome..  there are extensions that will put a task tray on the top bar..  and there are other extensions to make it resemble a windows start bar..  and others like bolt / cario-dock combo which i find better then windows
[23:37] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, sudo rm -f /home/me.Xauthority ?
[23:37] <l057c0d3r> oh wait..
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  or just rename it..
[23:37] <l057c0d3r> sorry i missed it u were talking to harris
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> sudo mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.old
[23:37] <gambolputty> The 13.04 DVD doesn't allow for a reinstall option with keeping my files.  It will only erase them all. :(
[23:37] <punter> Dr_Willis: I missed that msg... I'll search for it
[23:37] <scumbum> harris: msvbc is visual basic
[23:38] <harris> so how do i install it
[23:38] <savio> harris crack exe some time just don't work with wine go with virtualization
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> harris:  the wine tricks tool has options to install many support libs.
[23:39] <harris> under install app or windows dll
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> harris:  no idea.. LOOK around and see
[23:39] <scumbum> bleemoo: install all the GUIs you want . Select during login
[23:39] <scumbum> harris: its a VB dll missing. Winehq does not support that version yet.
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  a vb so new.. wine cant handle it. ;)
[23:40] <harris> ok
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15789  ---> says do --> winetricks vb6run
[23:41] <Dr_Willis>   harris
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> Oh well
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> wait..  there is mono for most .net languages is there not??
[23:43] <scumbum> harris: try in terminal WINETRICKS VB6RUN
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> a program i wrote in vb on windows ran fine as exe with mono on linux..  but think i had to use vb 2010
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> or was it 2008
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. been a while now cant remember exactly
[23:44] <KBentley57> Hey everyone.  I'm running xubuntu, and I've just transitioned from 12.10 -> 13.04.  I'm having a problem booting with the new kernel, as in, no boot.  has anyone experienced similar issues?
[23:45] <KBentley57> I tried a few different kernels from the ubuntu mainline releases, but only the 3.5.7 has worked.  I've tried various 3.7 and 3.8 kernels, but no 3.6 at this point
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, no boot meaning in detail.
[23:45] <OerHeks> 13.04 comes with 3.8.0.19 ?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> what happens with the other kernels, and have you modified grub?
[23:46] <scumbum> Winehq provdes the dlls to run windows exes
[23:46] <KBentley57> no boot = black screen with no output.  If i use nomodeset, i see very much garbled output that I cannot decipher, and it times out at around 34 seconds into the boot
[23:46] <KBentley57> the same thing happens with kernels > 3.5.7.
[23:46] <KBentley57> OerHeks, yes, that is correct
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Have you had to install graphic drivers in the past?
[23:47] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, yes, I'm running the amd fglrx at the moment.  But, before I upgraded, I uninstalled them just in case.
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, A upgrade needs all that setup run again
[23:48] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, would you care to explain more?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Distro upgrades will not save installed graphic setups as in being upgraded to the new needed.
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> in other words what you did to get 12.10 working you need to do in a upgrade to 13.04
[23:50] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, that didn't work. Any other idea?
[23:50] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, I didn't have the proprietary drivers installed at the time of upgrading.  I prepared the system to as close as default as I could get.
[23:51] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, besides, i can't even get far enough to get the graphics drivers installed in the newer kernel
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Have you installed the proprietary now in the same manner?
[23:51] <heneusl_pay> What shall be done to enable mp3 playback using Ubuntu 12 live CD?
[23:52] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, yes.  After installing this kernel, I build the .deb packages and installed them.
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, So you were able to get in at one point and after this work you are broken?
[23:53] <jmnoz> so, installing mpd on ubuntu requires a lot of configuration to get it working with pulseaudio. What is really the downside of just using at as a user program instead of running it as a service?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Ansikt: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:53] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Ansikt
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> heneusl_pay, INstall the restricted-extras for your desktop or try vlc
[23:53] <bob___> I have an issue with sshfs, I can see one directory in my mountpoint but not the other. Both directories are present on the server. Any ideas?
[23:54] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: you need to run it from usb . Use usb creator that allows persistant changes. Then install codec pack
[23:55] <heneusl_pay> wilee-nilee: The vlc plugin comes installed by default in firefox how shall I direct the mp3 stream to be played by it instead of the default action which is using rhythmbox.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> bob___: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l /full/path/to/directory/with/problem/../" on the server and on the client, as well as the output of "mount".
[23:55] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, let me restate it.  in 12.10 I had fglrx.  I removed it with synaptic prior to upgrading.  I ran the sudo do-release-upgrade, and it finished.  I wasn't able to boot into the 3.8.0-19 kernel at all; luckily I could boot into the 12.10 kernel, 3.5.0-27.  That is what I booted into to try the other kernels.  None of them worked except for the one I'm using now, 3.5.7.
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> heneusl_pay, As suggested if you want codecs and to be able to reboot and use again load a usb with persistence.
[23:56] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: you maybe albe to install codec pack running from cd but not sure.
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Cool, hopefully that is enough info for those to help that know, not sure myself. ;)
[23:57] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, then at least you know more than me :)
[23:57] <heneusl_pay> How shall I direct the stream to the already installed VLC plugin?
[23:58] <tekkidd> Has this bug been fixed in 13.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1102373
[23:58] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: not sure. Maybe download mp3 then open with vlc