[02:33] <smartboyhw> I missed the whole conversation from yesterday:(
[04:51] <smartboyhw> holstein: Thank you for changing the channel topics in #ubuntustudio :)
[04:52] <holstein> yup.. i did it late, but it got done that day :)
[04:53] <smartboyhw> holstein: :)
[06:50] <smartboyhw> zequence: ping ping
[08:16] <zequence> smartboyhw_: ping pong
[08:22] <smartboyhw_> zequence: The Xubuntu team is having a brainstorming of making HUDs:O
[08:32] <zequence> HUDs?
[08:32] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Yeah
[08:32] <zequence> Like a Dash?
[08:33] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Sort of, visit yesterday's #xubuntu-devel log in irclogs.u.c to find out
[09:24] <zequence> I've created blueprints for Gnome and Unity as well now. If we find someone interested in working with LXDE, that could be added too. I'm not counting on that all of them will be done, but they are up anyway
[09:24] <zequence> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PermanentBlueprintOverview
[09:24] <zequence> The LTS release also has a bunch of blueprints up now
[09:36] <smartboyhw> zequence: :)
[09:49] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Do we have any blueprints that are assigned to Scott in the permanent blueprint?
[09:50] <zequence> smartboyhw_: Don't think so, but it doesn't really matter
[09:50] <smartboyhw_> ok
[09:51] <zequence> I someone spots and orphande workitem, and would like to do it, one can just ask first, and then grab it
[09:51] <zequence> orphaned*
[09:53] <smartboyhw_> zequence: I do think we should put Unity as the priority for DE support, as we are pretty getting more suggestions that we should use Unity. At least more than KDE and GNOME.
[09:53] <zequence> Yes, it makes sense to ensure support for Unity
[09:54] <zequence> I've assigen the Unity blueprint to myself
[09:56] <smartboyhw_> zequence: \o/
[10:08] <smartboyhw_> zequence: I like the dependency tree in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+spec/topic-flavor-ubuntustudio :P
[10:42] <zequence> https://plus.google.com/u/0/107928060492923463788/posts/Dic7WeW6yhY
[10:43] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Read
[10:43] <smartboyhw_> (in past tense format it is)
[10:43] <zequence> I don't have those files, so I don't really know what they are about
[10:56] <smartboyhw> What the... My Xfce went haywire?
[11:15]  * smartboyhw kicks his mobile phone _ nick
[11:26] <smartboyhw> zequence, I'm wondering: Am I supposed to create a metapackage only or create a seed?
[11:28] <zequence> smartboyhw: ubuntustudio-meta holds all of our metas
[11:29] <zequence> smartboyhw: Dependencies for the metas are handled from seeds
[11:29] <zequence> smartboyhw: So, you will need to create a new file in seeds with the dependencies for the meta
[11:29] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:29] <zequence> smartboyhw: Get the meta, look at debian/control
[11:29] <zequence> smartboyhw: Then, get the seeds, and see how other metas are managed
[11:30] <zequence> smartboyhw: First, create a branch of the meta source. You could use your own PPA if you want
[11:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:30] <zequence> smartboyhw: But, you'll need to edit the ubuntu studio seed files. Not sure if there is a saucy yet
[11:31] <zequence> I guess so.. it's the trunk :O
[11:31] <zequence> :P
[11:31] <smartboyhw> zequence, there IS a saucy:P
[11:31] <zequence> Right, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.saucy
[11:32] <smartboyhw> zequence, hurrray, I upgraded to the saucy repos and there is no branch for saucy in ubuntustudio-meta:P
[11:32] <zequence> smartboyhw: There's no branch for saucy until saucy is released
[11:32] <zequence> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-meta/ubuntustudio-meta
[11:32] <smartboyhw> zequence, which we hadn't:P
[11:32] <zequence> I mean, until Ubuntu Saucy is released
[11:33] <smartboyhw> zequence, some of them are already there, like kubuntu-meta
[11:33] <zequence> There will be no bzr branch for saucy, until saucy is released
[11:34] <zequence> until then, we use the development branch
[11:34] <zequence> What you need to do is create your own branch of the development source
[11:34] <zequence> Once you've done some testing, and it seems to work, we merge it with the development branch
[11:35] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK;0
[11:36] <zequence> smartboyhw: When you build the meta, it will look for the seed files from a specific location
[11:37] <smartboyhw> zequence, I know
[11:37]  * smartboyhw did play with the Kubuntu Meta once for adding a software into it
[11:42] <zequence> let me just update a file in the meta source
[11:43] <smartboyhw> zequence, oh?
[11:43]  * smartboyhw is doing some purging and adding in the new seed
[11:46] <smartboyhw> zequence, we will still be using Firefox whatever DE it is right?
[11:48] <zequence> smartboyhw: I think the smartest thing is to follow Kubuntu for now, and just remove things that we don't want
[11:48] <smartboyhw> zequence, Kubuntu uses Rekonq
[11:49] <smartboyhw> So I'm not sure
[11:52] <zequence> We can discuss package selection further on
[11:52] <zequence> Right now, just base it on the Kubuntu desktop stuff, and remove things we don't want
[11:57] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ok, the meta source is updated. https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-meta/ubuntustudio-meta
[11:58] <zequence> smartboyhw: So, do you know what to do now?
[11:59] <zequence> I would name the seed file desktop-kde
[12:08] <zequence> micahg: The way I'm maintaining linux-lowlatency nowadays is I build the source in a PPA, and then it's just copied from there to proposed. What would you think about doing the same for Ubuntu Studio packackages?
[12:09] <zequence> micahg: apw has signed my gpg signature, so if you want to get it confirmed, it should be workable
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep
[13:01] <smartboyhw> Hello DarkEra 
[13:01] <DarkEra> hi smartboyhw 
[13:02] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, you got assigned to the GNOME blueprint:)
[13:04] <zequence> DarkEra: I also added you to the Contributor team
[13:05] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, zequence woohooo! thanks guys
[13:05]  * smartboyhw is hard-working on writing a science project report, Chinese online exercises and the KDE seed:O
[13:05] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[13:15] <DarkEra> let's see what this 'noob in development' can learn 
[13:15] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, no worries:)
[13:17] <DarkEra> ;)
[13:18] <smartboyhw> zequence, isn't http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138806 supposed to be stickied?
[13:19] <zequence> smartboyhw: No
[13:19] <smartboyhw> zequence, why?:p
[13:19] <zequence> smartboyhw: Is it important?
[13:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, why isn't it important?
[13:20] <zequence> smartboyhw: Why do you ask why?
[13:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, ......................
[13:21]  * smartboyhw thinks every human is allowed to ask questions
[13:21] <zequence> The forum needs some work. It's not a priority right now for me
[13:21] <zequence> If you ask me why the thread is not sticky, that must mean you think it is important it should be
[13:22] <smartboyhw> zequence, because if calls for contributions are important, release infos are MORE important
[13:22] <DarkEra> forum work, love it. Been a moderator and admin myself, still am by the way to help two friends out
[13:22] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, Fuduntu?
[13:23] <DarkEra> lol, yeah i was mod there too
[13:23] <DarkEra> and irc op
[13:24] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, it's now called FuSE :O
[13:24] <smartboyhw> FUduntu + opensuSE 
[13:25] <DarkEra> don't think so they have a new name yet
[13:27] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, they did hold a meeting on the 21st as I see on their blog and they said they're switching to a new openSUSE base, a new DE that I never heard of, a new community structure consisting of 4 team members + 1 community-elected person, and also a new name FuSE
[13:27] <smartboyhw> for the DE part, LOL
[13:28] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, oh you're right, sorry. i already forgot they had that meeting
[13:28] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, LOL
[13:29]  * DarkEra shruggs and was too busy testing Ubuntu Studio
[13:30] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[13:32] <DarkEra> so they voted for Consort DE which is brand new and not ready yet (yes i was with solusos too last year). Plus the fact it is just another Gnome 3 fork like Cinnamon
[13:33] <DarkEra> oh well, their loss :P
[13:34] <DarkEra> i warned them before
[13:34] <DarkEra> anyhoo.... enough of the ranting
[13:34] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[13:35] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, why do they SO like GNOME forks?
[13:35] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, i really don't know
[13:37] <DarkEra> other news: i've installed ubuntu gnome 13.04 last evening. I like it so far and noticed some changes compared to gnome 3.4
[13:37] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, but that's not 3.8 you know?
[13:38] <DarkEra> 3.6 is that what is in 13.04
[13:38] <DarkEra> ;)
[13:38] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, yep
[13:38] <smartboyhw> You can have a PPA for t3.8
[13:38] <smartboyhw> s/t3.8/3.8/
[13:38] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "You can have a PPA for 3.8"
[13:38] <DarkEra> i know :)
[13:38] <DarkEra> i might have a look at that
[13:40] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, i could be wrong but i don't expect huge changes between 3.6 and 3.8
[13:41] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, dunno. I don't use GNOME 3 or GNOME 2 or Unity or Consort 
[13:41] <smartboyhw> I only use Xfce when I am at Ubuntu Studio, and KDE when I am at Kubuntu:p
[13:41] <DarkEra> :D
[13:41] <DarkEra> bbiab
[15:28] <smartboyhw> zequence, we should put DarkEra in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure
[15:28] <smartboyhw> :p
[15:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, eh damn it. I edited https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio to change the right banner link to 13.04, and this
[15:30] <smartboyhw> Notifications sent to: yurelov, astraljava, apw, rdoursenaud, ttoine, selinuxium, garlik42, sconklin, glavkos, grenegar, wmerriam, shirishag75, voodoo-eu, rexbron, davidc3, kangarooo, lavaman, cnewkirk, ing-cristian-dc, ubuntufromscratch, matehortua, schaefer-jason, coryisatm, timg-tpi, eliasmansilla, roydamen, kurt-kapotski, stochastic, timmie, ailo.at
[15:30] <smartboyhw> :O
[15:30] <smartboyhw> What the hell!?
[15:30]  * smartboyhw misses ailo:P
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Oh he was added
[15:31] <zequence> Oh, good. I forgot about the wiki
[15:31] <smartboyhw> zequence, DarkEra was added sorry I missed:P
[15:38] <Len-nb> zequence, just a reminder, I think we need a bluprint item to add gparted to the desktop
[15:41] <Len-nb> also, I will be moving virtkb to midi utils... which reminds me, should we be changing focus of midi from alsa midi to jack midi?
[15:41] <Len-nb> Jack midi seems to be the more stable resource
[15:42] <Len-nb> A3 uses jack midi, firewire does, etc. Perhaps add the jack virtual kb instead of the one we have now.
[15:43] <smartboyhw> zequence, what did I miss?
[15:43] <smartboyhw> Hello Len-nb 
[15:43] <smartboyhw> Any Ardour package will be auto-synced into Ubuntu Saucy:)
[15:43] <smartboyhw> Ardour 3 that is
[15:43] <zequence> Len-nb: Just add whatever workitems you like to the existing blueprints
[15:43] <Len-nb> right
[15:43] <zequence> Len-nb: gparted goes into desktop, audio stuff into the audio blueprint
[15:43] <smartboyhw> zequence, eh we don't 've gparted?
[15:43] <zequence> smartboyhw: Apparently not
[15:44] <Len-nb> It is in live but not installed
[15:44] <smartboyhw> zequence, :O
[15:44] <smartboyhw> That would be a simple seed change I think
[15:44] <Len-nb> yes
[15:44] <Len-nb> I will add it as a bluprint item first though to keep track
[15:45] <smartboyhw> Len-nb, ok
[15:45] <smartboyhw> It's extremely good to have gparted in
[15:46] <zequence> Any changes to seeds need to be added to blueprints first
[15:46] <zequence> At least the way we are working right now
[15:46] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[15:46] <Len-nb> Yes, the B.P. are a place anyone can look and know what is happening.
[15:47] <Len-nb> It also shows people from outside studio we are doing something :)
[15:47] <smartboyhw> Len-nb, :P:)
[15:48] <smartboyhw> We ARE ALWAYS doing something
[15:48] <smartboyhw> Len-nb, holstein zequence to cheer you guys up see http://people.ubuntu.com/~unit193/pisg/ubuntustudio.html
[15:48] <smartboyhw> :P
[15:48] <Len-nb> We know that.... ubuntu needs to know too
[15:49] <smartboyhw> That link is great:p
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Another lonely one was zequence, who managed to hit 57 times.
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Poor zequence LOL
[15:50] <smartboyhw> zequence, changing your nick seriously affects your rankings...
[15:52] <Len-nb> Ya I am in there three or four times too.
[15:52] <smartboyhw> Len-nb, two times at least for me
[15:52] <smartboyhw> One for telling people actions:O
[15:53] <smartboyhw> now wait a minute
[15:53] <smartboyhw> Nice opers here, no one got kicked!
[15:53] <smartboyhw> :O
[15:53] <smartboyhw> WE HAVE A CLEAN RECORD!
[15:54] <smartboyhw> Damn it I'm almost making it to top 25 of http://people.ubuntu.com/~unit193/pisg/ubuntu-irc.html (What the?)
[15:54] <zequence> smartboyhw: Maybe that is a sign of that you should be doing more homework, and not spending so much time on IRC ;)
[15:55] <smartboyhw> zequence, I do spend time on homework and revision...
[15:55] <smartboyhw> zequence, I'm top 6 out of 186 people in my Form....
[15:56] <smartboyhw> This sentence is rather EXTREMELY GOOD
[15:56] <smartboyhw> jono has quite a potty mouth. 0.3% words were foul language. 
[15:56] <smartboyhw> :P
[15:56] <smartboyhw> From #ubuntu-news
[16:02] <smartboyhw> zequence, what's your gmail address again?:P
[16:02] <zequence> smartboyhw: my email address is zequence@mousike.me
[16:02] <zequence> I have a couple of gmail addresses, but I don't use them for personal mail
[16:02] <smartboyhw> zequence, you have one for GTalk in your wiki...
[16:03]  * smartboyhw searches
[16:51] <Len-nb> zequence, just added everything I could think of just now to the BPs
[21:35] <madeinkobaia> For those who're still on board...hello : )
[21:57] <len-1304> Hello
[21:57] <len-1304> I'm off and on
[21:59] <madeinkobaia> Hi Len, so you're switchin' ; )
[22:13] <Len-nb> Ya going bowling with the family for a bit.
[22:21] <madeinkobaia> Wow great. See you Len. : )