| Guest6760 | Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit. | 00:30 |
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| === Guest6760 is now known as retrobanana | ||
| === whoo is now known as bim | ||
| bim | Hi, will regular updates get me up to speed with 12.04.2 if my installation was 12.04 ? | 03:22 |
| cfhowlett | bim, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade | 03:24 |
| bim | cfhowlett: that will get me to 12.04.2 ? | 03:53 |
| bim | I'm not very experienced, so I was also wondering would it be best to stick with the lts or upgrade to 13.04 ?...thanks | 03:55 |
| holstein | bim: automatically | 03:56 |
| holstein | bim: you will be upgraded automatically by those commands to the latest 12.04 | 03:56 |
| holstein | bim: "best" is a matter of opinion | 03:56 |
| bim | ok..thanks | 03:56 |
| bim | what about 13.04 , should I pass on it ? | 03:57 |
| cfhowlett | bim, yes that would upgrade you to the latest 12.04 | 03:57 |
| cfhowlett | bim, also, my recommendation is to go with LTS only unless you truly need the the latest/greatest/shiniest stuff. YMMV | 03:57 |
| holstein | my production rig is on 12.04, but more because i just dont want to mess with it | 03:57 |
| cfhowlett | bim, 13.04 is not LTS and will be supported for only 9 months ... | 03:57 |
| holstein | bim: is 13.04 stable? sure.. do you want it? dont know | 03:57 |
| cfhowlett | holstein, 100% agree | 03:58 |
| cfhowlett | bim, do you want to make art or muck around with install/config every 9 months. Choose | 03:58 |
| bim | I like the idea of lts ...and I am not a cutting edge kinda guy ... | 03:58 |
| holstein | i dont even upgrade my production machine that often | 03:58 |
| holstein | i need it to work... | 03:58 |
| holstein | bim: you can always load up ubuntustudio 13.04 live and see | 03:58 |
| bim | I just wish I could get ubuntustudio to work on my not really that old laptop | 04:00 |
| cfhowlett | bim, 12.04 then. | 04:00 |
| holstein | try it.. | 04:00 |
| holstein | bim: whats the issue? | 04:00 |
| bim | I did....no luck...the new ubuntu desktop wont either | 04:00 |
| bim | It wont boot up | 04:01 |
| holstein | bim: what luck? | 04:01 |
| holstein | bim: tell be *exactly* what is going on? | 04:01 |
| bim | I installed wheezy netinstall and tango studio repos on my laptop....works fats | 04:01 |
| holstein | what fails? how? when? | 04:01 |
| holstein | bim: so, wheezy works? and tango? but not ubuntu? | 04:02 |
| bim | yes | 04:02 |
| bim | wheezy with mate even | 04:02 |
| holstein | bim: mate has *nothing* to do with it | 04:02 |
| holstein | bim: what do i think it is? kernel related.. | 04:02 |
| holstein | !nomodeset | 04:03 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 04:03 |
| holstein | ^^ i bet you are getting that.. and could get arond it and install a graphics driver you need | 04:03 |
| bim | intel gdm850 | 04:03 |
| holstein | would i ? not if tango is working... but you can pop a live CD in and do a nomodeset and see | 04:03 |
| bim | Ok..I'll dwnload the new studio and try | 04:04 |
| bim | how do yoy do a nomodeset..at waht point in the boot process ? | 04:05 |
| bim | holstein ? | 04:05 |
| holstein | bim: i tap shift, after the bios.. then, from that screen, down at the bottom.. F6 | 04:06 |
| bim | hmm sounds like it will be different on every brand of laptop...I have a dell inspiron 1150....9 years old | 04:06 |
| holstein | ? | 04:07 |
| holstein | *after* the bios | 04:07 |
| bim | shift and F6 ok... | 04:07 |
| holstein | the screen you are looking for hides | 04:07 |
| holstein | shift makes it show | 04:07 |
| bim | ahhh...the old hidden screen trick.... | 04:07 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 | 04:08 |
| bim | you think it may work with the ubuntustudio 12.04 ? | 04:08 |
| holstein | bim: i would have to be in front of it, but yes | 04:09 |
| bim | btw xubuntu 13.04 boots bout ubuntu 13.04 doesnt | 04:09 |
| bim | so the kernels are different ? | 04:10 |
| holstein | bim: look and see, but yes | 04:10 |
| holstein | bim: xubuntu 13.04 has the same kernel as ubuntu 13.04 though | 04:10 |
| holstein | bim: the difference there? i think its 3d graphics related or a bad iso/disc/optical drive | 04:11 |
| bim | ok......so why would the one boot and not the other ?....gnome 3 needs the 3d out of the box then ? | 04:11 |
| holstein | bim: ubuntu doesnt have gnome3 | 04:12 |
| bim | there is a new one with gnome | 04:12 |
| holstein | bim: you said ubuntu doesnt work.. thats unity.. unity has either 3d or some newish pass through | 04:12 |
| holstein | bim: ubuntu nor xubuntu have gnome | 04:12 |
| holstein | bim: is it 3d? i dont know, but nomodeset is another test you can try | 04:12 |
| bim | Thats great ...I'll try that | 04:13 |
| holstein | i'll tell you what its not.. its not "ubuntu wont work on my machine".. it'll just be a matter of sorting out what you need | 04:14 |
| holstein | you can always use a custom xorg.conf with a vesa driver or some other hacks | 04:15 |
| holstein | unity or gnome3 requiring 3d can be a deal-breaker though | 04:15 |
| bim | I just recall fall back being the only option | 04:16 |
| bim | on an earlier ubuntu, maybe 12 | 04:17 |
| holstein | there is no "fallback".. not for unity.. not anymore | 04:17 |
| holstein | no unity 2d | 04:17 |
| holstein | just the tricky passthrough thing that i dont quite understand, or care about using, since im not interested in unity or gnome3 | 04:18 |
| bim | I just assumed that since studio was built on xfce that I would have no problem as all xfce distros boot on my laptop | 04:18 |
| bim | all that I have tried.... | 04:19 |
| bim | i have 12.10 installed...looks like I need to upgrade to 12.04 after all | 04:23 |
| bim | i thought I had the .04... | 04:24 |
| Baker | Hey I've got a question, if anyone could answer | 04:43 |
| holstein | ask, and we'll see | 04:44 |
| Baker | I accidentally deleted the volume icon in the top toolbar. When I tried to add another, it doesn't function the same. The old volume icon would show me my volume and a shortcut to the default music player. Now when I click it, it displays the mixer. | 04:45 |
| holstein | Baker: you can always look in a new user account or in the live CD for what use to be there | 04:46 |
| Baker | I tried to do that with a guest account, to view the properties, but it wouldn't let me view the properties. | 04:46 |
| holstein | Baker: what would you like to do? | 04:46 |
| Baker | I'd like to restore the volume icon to its previous function | 04:47 |
| Baker | Of showing my volume and the widget for my music player. | 04:47 |
| Baker | Is anyone able to help me? | 04:49 |
| holstein | Baker: you can start removing things from your home... | 04:49 |
| holstein | Baker: yes.. i can | 04:49 |
| holstein | Baker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings | 04:51 |
| Baker | I'm currently trying this | 04:55 |
| === Ken is now known as Guest47360 | ||
| Ken_ | Hi | 04:56 |
| === Ken_ is now known as Guest64193 | ||
| Baker | holstein: That fixed it. You've been a great help. | 04:56 |
| holstein | Baker: cheers | 04:56 |
| Baker | Thank you very much | 04:56 |
| Guest64193 | does anyone here use Ubuntu Studio to do simple multi-track recordings? | 04:57 |
| Guest64193 | i have a couple of questions | 04:57 |
| Baker | I've started doing that | 04:58 |
| Baker | Very recently though. | 04:58 |
| Guest64193 | It's ok....I have questions about setups | 04:58 |
| holstein | i do analog tracking.. usually no more than 8 at time | 04:58 |
| Baker | I've really only used Ardour and Audacity here. | 04:59 |
| Guest64193 | for the audio interface....like a Tascam 144 or something.....they don't have Linux drivers....so would Ubuntu Studio recognize the USB interface? | 04:59 |
| holstein | i have a 144 | 04:59 |
| holstein | it was a pain to get it working... | 04:59 |
| holstein | needed a custom jackd line.. and so far, i havent had it working since 12.04 | 05:00 |
| holstein | but, its not worth the hassle really | 05:00 |
| holstein | i would just fire up an ubuntustudio live CD on whatever internal card you have and get used to using JACK | 05:00 |
| holstein | !proaudio | 05:00 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 05:00 |
| Guest64193 | oh....so is there a list of compatible USB interfaces somewhere that tells me would work well with Linux? | 05:00 |
| holstein | then, you can decide what you want to buy | 05:00 |
| holstein | Guest64193: sure. the alsa matrix, but i personaly dont like USB hardware | 05:01 |
| holstein | and, i dont trust "lists".. i go get the thing, and plug it in and test it.. and save my reciepts | 05:01 |
| holstein | a kernel upgrade and literally make or break support | 05:01 |
| Guest64193 | so how do you get the audio into the computer if you don't use an USB interface? | 05:01 |
| holstein | Guest64193: you can generate audio in the box to "test" and "learn" with | 05:01 |
| holstein | i use firewire.. but i have a few USB interfaces i use as well | 05:02 |
| holstein | a lexixon omega that is "plug and play" | 05:02 |
| Guest64193 | so for now....it seems audio recording is still easier to setup on a Windows machine? (Don't flame me! :) ) | 05:03 |
| holstein | nah.. i dont care | 05:03 |
| holstein | use what you want | 05:03 |
| holstein | i was using cubase on XP for years.. and i switched to linux. it wasnt easy, but it was worth it for me | 05:03 |
| holstein | should you switch? i literally dont know | 05:03 |
| Guest64193 | I am still using my BOSS BR-600! haha | 05:04 |
| holstein | but, dont expect anyne to be able to hand it to you.. | 05:04 |
| Baker | I use cubase on windows 7 alongside Ardour on ubuntu studio | 05:04 |
| holstein | there is no "linux" making sure you get drivers for you devices | 05:04 |
| holstein | i felt like someone dropped a brand new studio in my lap, but it took time | 05:04 |
| Baker | The transition is still pretty rough on me | 05:05 |
| holstein | i didnt go all linux all at once either.. i used linux on a laptop for daily things... email etc | 05:05 |
| holstein | then, i slowly migrated the studio | 05:05 |
| Guest64193 | yeah that's what i am using Linux for now.....just learning it | 05:05 |
| holstein | but, i do actually make $$ with it, so i had to stay production ready through the process | 05:05 |
| Baker | Yeah, my laptop is mainly my linux machine. My PC is windows 7, but it's really only for gaming | 05:06 |
| Guest64193 | yeah, if it's a business then stick with what works and stable.... | 05:06 |
| holstein | yup... and im over trying to keep up with windows | 05:06 |
| holstein | ardour is the tool i choose to use, and it works great for me | 05:06 |
| holstein | its really whatever you get used to | 05:07 |
| Baker | Ardour is very similar to Cubase in many respects | 05:07 |
| holstein | not similar enough | 05:08 |
| holstein | also, my plugins wouldnt work | 05:08 |
| holstein | but, i found ones i like better | 05:08 |
| Baker | I'd really like to fully transition to Ardour for my recording. | 05:08 |
| holstein | go for it.. i did.. its great :) | 05:09 |
| Baker | I dig the open source attitude, and I don't want to have to shell out another $500 for the best features, every couple of years. | 05:09 |
| holstein | eh.. i wouldnt mind.. i pay for ardour | 05:09 |
| holstein | the $ is not the reason im here | 05:09 |
| Guest64193 | well, this is not just for audio recording i guess....the same for Photoshop | 05:10 |
| Guest64193 | Office | 05:10 |
| Guest64193 | etc | 05:10 |
| holstein | i spend a lot of time here which is the same as $ | 05:10 |
| Baker | You pay for ardour? | 05:10 |
| holstein | yup.. you can if you want | 05:10 |
| Baker | Hmm. I might look into that | 05:10 |
| holstein | Guest64193: im not missing anything.. but you might be | 05:10 |
| Guest64193 | i honestly just wanted to learn Linux.....then i started thinking about what else can i do on my linux laptopo besides web and email | 05:10 |
| holstein | libreoffice and google docs does all i need | 05:11 |
| Baker | ubuntu studio is so far my favourite distro | 05:11 |
| holstein | but, i dont need word | 05:11 |
| Baker | Yeah, I actually like Libre better than Microsoft Office | 05:11 |
| holstein | i dont need cmyk output, though i hear we have that now | 05:11 |
| holstein | i dont do much graphics.. we dont really have a lot of users here that do it | 05:11 |
| Baker | I do occasionally | 05:12 |
| Guest64193 | i use Libreoffice on thw Windows machine | 05:12 |
| holstein | but, we have openshot going pretty big now, and lightroom coming | 05:12 |
| holstein | darktable is nice | 05:12 |
| Baker | It's mainly a tiny hobby that I do when bored | 05:12 |
| cfhowlett | openshot is sweet and fun | 05:12 |
| holstein | Guest64193: sudo apt-get libreoffice and you'll have that in ubuntu | 05:12 |
| Guest64193 | i can get MS Office Suite for $10 from work | 05:12 |
| smartboyhw | Yep | 05:12 |
| Guest64193 | but i still didn't buy it | 05:12 |
| holstein | Guest64193: i dont want the MS site | 05:12 |
| holstein | suite | 05:12 |
| holstein | i would pay $10 to keep it off my machine | 05:12 |
| Guest64193 | haha | 05:13 |
| Baker | Hahah | 05:13 |
| holstein | not that there is anything wrong with it.. i just dont want it | 05:13 |
| Baker | Does Libre come with Studio? I haven't checked yet. | 05:13 |
| Baker | I literally just got this OS a day or so ago. | 05:13 |
| holstein | Baker: its in the repos.. we have the same repos as ubuntu | 05:13 |
| Guest64193 | the only time i used my Windows machine since I installed Linux on this laptop 3 weeks ago....was Lightroom 4 | 05:13 |
| Baker | Should I just do the terminal command? | 05:13 |
| holstein | Baker: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get libreoffice | 05:14 |
| Baker | I only use Windows for Steam. Because most of my steam games aren't on Linux. | 05:14 |
| Guest64193 | I wonder what they have on Steam Linux | 05:14 |
| Guest64193 | probably nothing good | 05:14 |
| Baker | They have all of the half life games | 05:14 |
| holstein | Guest64193: check out darktable | 05:14 |
| Baker | And TF2 | 05:14 |
| Baker | And a few indie games | 05:14 |
| Guest64193 | would they have Counter Strike? | 05:14 |
| holstein | Guest64193: i bought a few steam games to be "supportive" | 05:15 |
| Baker | Of course | 05:15 |
| Guest64193 | if i paid for CS: GO for Windows...do i still have to pay for the Linux version? | 05:15 |
| Guest64193 | haha | 05:15 |
| Baker | Nope! | 05:15 |
| cfhowlett | no | 05:15 |
| Guest64193 | AWESOME! | 05:15 |
| Baker | I play it on both my windows desktop, and my ubuntu laptop. It's awesome. | 05:15 |
| holstein | if its available, it'll run win lin or OSX.. or the set top box they might release | 05:16 |
| holstein | you dont have to re-purchase anything | 05:16 |
| Baker | They actually just did a promotion thing a few weeks ago where if you played TF2 on a linux distro, you got an in game penguin thing. | 05:16 |
| Baker | I don't remember the details though, haha. | 05:16 |
| Baker | http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/ | 05:17 |
| Baker | For the curious | 05:17 |
| holstein | welcome to the channel folks.. i gotta get horizontal.. check #opensourcemusicians as well.. good night! | 05:17 |
| Baker | Thanks for the help! See you later | 05:17 |
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| manoosh | my ubuntu studio crahed | 06:14 |
| cfhowlett | manoosh, details? | 06:15 |
| manoosh | i can't see minimise,close options on opening windows | 06:15 |
| manoosh | i am using studio 12.10 | 06:17 |
| manoosh | i cannot maximise any opened window | 06:18 |
| manoosh | anybody knows hoe to fix it? | 06:18 |
| manoosh | cfhowlett, have you got any idea? | 06:23 |
| cfhowlett | manoosh, I know WHERE it is but not how to fix ... xfce4-panel | 06:24 |
| manoosh | thanks | 06:25 |
| smartboyhw | cfhowlett: Thank you for extending your membership in ~ubuntustudio-testing | 06:29 |
| cfhowlett | smartboyhw, *blush* why thank you! | 06:30 |
| cfhowlett | smartboyhw, since you're here: did I miss it? I didn't do any testing cuz direct downloads were not working for me, but I didn't see daily build torrents ... | 06:31 |
| smartboyhw | cfhowlett: Daily builds are not torrented, and the latest "daily" build is the 13.04 release. Why doesn't the downloads work for you, BTW? | 06:37 |
| cfhowlett | smartboyhw, cuz I'm in Beijing and slow internet but dirty signal means cfhowlett is a sad ubuntu | 06:38 |
| * cfhowlett looks forward to testing Saucy Salamander | 06:41 | |
| ZacJ | Hey all. | 12:57 |
| smartboyhw | Hello ZacJ | 12:57 |
| ZacJ | I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm trying to play my guitar through it. | 12:57 |
| ZacJ | I don't have an amp right now, due to financial issues. | 12:58 |
| ZacJ | How might I go about this with Audacity? | 12:58 |
| ZacJ | >rakarrack hasn't worked for me | 12:58 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Audacity is a audio wave editor | 12:59 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Are you also wanting to record, or just play guitar? | 12:59 |
| ZacJ | Just play :D. | 12:59 |
| zequence | ZacJ: There are two applications you can use. rakarrack and guitarix. Both require jack | 12:59 |
| ZacJ | I keep having issues with jackd so rakarrack didn't go so well. | 12:59 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Which release are you on? | 13:00 |
| ZacJ | ^^ | 13:00 |
| ZacJ | 12.04 I THINK :\ | 13:00 |
| * ZacJ is really new to Ubuntu, lol... | 13:00 | |
| zequence | ZacJ: Probably you had another application using your audio device, which stopped jack from being able to grab it | 13:00 |
| ZacJ | Hm... well, I've tried restarting and that didn't fix it. | 13:01 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Do this in a terminal, and paste the results to http://paste.ubuntu.com : cat /proc/asound/cards | 13:01 |
| zequence | Then give me the link | 13:01 |
| ZacJ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608301/ | 13:02 |
| ZacJ | (thx btw) | 13:02 |
| zequence | That's weird. Do you have two builtin audio devices? Is the other HDMI? | 13:02 |
| ZacJ | One built in, one is my guitar. | 13:03 |
| ZacJ | Honestly not sure which is which. | 13:03 |
| ZacJ | Just miniphono. | 13:03 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Do this in the terminal, and paste it to me: aplay -l | 13:03 |
| zequence | ZacJ: This too: arecord -l | 13:04 |
| ZacJ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608314/ | 13:04 |
| zequence | Ok, so what we can see from there is that one of the cards only has output | 13:05 |
| zequence | And it's HDMO | 13:05 |
| zequence | HDMI | 13:05 |
| ZacJ | oh | 13:05 |
| zequence | card 0 | 13:05 |
| zequence | The thing is, each time you boot, the order of those cards may change | 13:06 |
| zequence | ZacJ: So, try this in the commandline: jackd -d alsa -d hw:1 | 13:06 |
| ZacJ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608320/ | 13:07 |
| zequence | ZacJ: that means pulseaudio is using the card | 13:07 |
| ZacJ | ;_; | 13:07 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Close down anything that is using audio, including web pages with flahs content | 13:08 |
| zequence | Also, you con't have realtime privilege, but we'll get to that | 13:08 |
| zequence | don't* | 13:08 |
| ZacJ | Rhythmbox is still kinda running in the background, it's not playing anything | 13:08 |
| zequence | ZacJ: You'll need to close it down | 13:09 |
| zequence | Everything that has anything to do with audio | 13:09 |
| ZacJ | How from terminal? Thanks again. | 13:09 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Just use the menu - quit | 13:09 |
| zequence | ZacJ: also, could you do this and paste the results (if any): cat /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf | 13:10 |
| ZacJ | It still lives when I go to my sound options. | 13:10 |
| ZacJ | kk sec | 13:10 |
| zequence | Don't use the X button. Use the menu to quit it | 13:11 |
| ZacJ | I did :O | 13:11 |
| ZacJ | Also, it said the directory didn't exist. | 13:11 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Try this: cat /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled | 13:11 |
| ZacJ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5608335/ | 13:12 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Ok, so here's what you need to do | 13:13 |
| ZacJ | O.O | 13:13 |
| zequence | First, enable that file: sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf | 13:13 |
| zequence | Next time, answer yes to realtime when installing jackd, and that will happen | 13:14 |
| zequence | But, that is only half of the realtime puzzle | 13:14 |
| ZacJ | Err how do I enable it? | 13:14 |
| ZacJ | Lol such a noob. | 13:14 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Just use the command I wrote | 13:14 |
| zequence | You rename the file to exclude .disabled | 13:15 |
| ZacJ | Okay, done :D. | 13:15 |
| zequence | ZacJ: The other half is to add yourself to audio group (in that file, you might have noticed @audio - that's the audio group) | 13:15 |
| zequence | ZacJ: So: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER | 13:15 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Finally, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency | 13:16 |
| zequence | Reboot. Make sure you boot to linux-lowlatency | 13:16 |
| ZacJ | Okay :D. | 13:16 |
| ZacJ | Getting it. | 13:16 |
| zequence | ZacJ: When you've rebooted, make sure you know which device is which | 13:16 |
| ZacJ | How might I make sure I boot to LLL? | 13:16 |
| zequence | ZacJ: If you don't see the Grub menu, push Shift during boot | 13:17 |
| zequence | Then you just select the latest linux-lowlatency kernel from the list | 13:17 |
| ZacJ | kk | 13:17 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Once you've rebooted, make sure you know which card is which | 13:18 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Easiest is just to do: arecord -l | 13:18 |
| zequence | "a" stands for alsa | 13:18 |
| zequence | The card that is recordable is your builtin card | 13:18 |
| zequence | Or, has inputs | 13:18 |
| zequence | ZacJ: Then, when you use whatever tool you use to start jack, like qjackctl, make sure you choose the correct device, before starting jack | 13:19 |
| zequence | ZacJ: It was hw:1 this time, but it could be hw:0 next time you reboot | 13:19 |
| ZacJ_ | Hey | 13:22 |
| ZacJ_ | My comp's been really screwy with the new OS, IRC froze. | 13:22 |
| zequence | 15:17 < zequence> ZacJ: Once you've rebooted, make sure you know which card is which | 13:23 |
| zequence | 15:18 < zequence> ZacJ: Easiest is just to do: arecord -l | 13:23 |
| zequence | 15:18 < zequence> "a" stands for alsa | 13:23 |
| zequence | 15:18 < zequence> The card that is recordable is your builtin card | 13:23 |
| zequence | 15:18 < zequence> Or, has inputs | 13:23 |
| zequence | 15:18 < zequence> ZacJ: Then, when you use whatever tool you use to start jack, like qjackctl, make sure you choose the correct device, before starting jack | 13:23 |
| zequence | 15:19 < zequence> ZacJ: It was hw:1 this time, but it could be hw:0 next time you reboot | 13:23 |
| zequence | ZacJ_: To reduce latency, you'll need to lower frames/period | 13:24 |
| zequence | ..in qjackctl | 13:24 |
| zequence | ZacJ_: Read more here.. | 13:24 |
| zequence | !proaudio | 13:24 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 13:24 |
| zequence | ZacJ_: Come back if you have problems | 13:24 |
| ZacJ_ | Thanks man ^_^_^_^_^ | 13:24 |
| raven | hi | 13:47 |
| raven | i am looking for a software mixer using jack to build a full virtual radio-setup. i need dynamics, eqing and aux capability für mix-minus and off air recording - any idea? thanks in advance | 13:47 |
| DarkEra | raven, is Mixxx what you're looking for? | 13:55 |
| raven | no | 13:55 |
| raven | i need a mixing console | 13:56 |
| raven | for example 4 skype inputs with 4 mix minus outputs | 13:56 |
| holstein | raven: theres jack mixer | 14:16 |
| raven | without aux buses | 14:16 |
| holstein | raven: what are you asking? | 14:16 |
| holstein | you dont want busses? | 14:17 |
| raven | i am looking for a software mixer using jack to build a full virtual radio-setup. i need dynamics, eqing and aux capability für mix-minus and off air recording - any idea? thanks in advance | 14:17 |
| holstein | just dont add them.. you can add whatever you like in jack mixer and use it as an aux or not | 14:17 |
| holstein | raven: i read your post | 14:17 |
| holstein | raven: you can use jack mixer | 14:17 |
| holstein | you can rout EQ's, volume controls.. whatever you want.. pre or post | 14:17 |
| raven | i do not want to plug in the patchbay every time i want to record something offair for example i want buttons 1-4 for example to assign every channel directly to one aux | 14:18 |
| holstein | raven: you can route whatever you like however you want | 14:18 |
| raven | yes per patch and not per button | 14:19 |
| holstein | raven: ? | 14:19 |
| holstein | raven: per jack real or virtual channel/track | 14:19 |
| raven | all virtual | 14:19 |
| holstein | raven: i dont know what you are refering to as buttons | 14:19 |
| holstein | i could take any signal in from my sound card, OR an audio track or effects send, and use jack mixer to control the volume.. i could patch an EQ into that anywhere i want in the signal chain | 14:20 |
| raven | sry you ignore my requirements written | 14:21 |
| holstein | raven: in what way? specically? | 14:21 |
| holstein | i assure you i am no ignoring anything | 14:21 |
| holstein | !volunteers | 14:21 |
| ubottu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 14:21 |
| holstein | raven: i read your post you double posted, and i *have* used jack mixer for that | 14:22 |
| raven | bye | 14:22 |
| holstein | doing a podcast, it was quite handy.. for the #opensourcemusicians community | 14:22 |
| holstein | raven: i *have* done what you are trying to do with the software i suggest | 14:23 |
| holstein | raven: there is not "virtual radio mixer".. but you can make one | 14:23 |
| holstein | there are session managers to make recalling all of these easier | 14:23 |
| Cenbe | How do you install the Nvidia drivers in Studio 13.04? | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | Cenbe, which driver do you want? | 14:53 |
| zequence | Cenbe: Check out Software source, there's a tab for drivers there | 14:54 |
| zequence | Softare Sources* | 14:54 |
| zequence | You can also install from the command line, for instance: sudo apt-get install nvidia-304 | 14:55 |
| Cenbe | OK... | 14:55 |
| zequence | There are a few different versions | 14:55 |
| zequence | On Ubuntu Studio, the app is called "Software and Updates" | 14:56 |
| zequence | In the Settings menu | 14:56 |
| Cenbe | OK, do I want 304, 310, or 313? I've got GeForce GT 430. | 15:01 |
| Cenbe | Most recent but one, I'd guess. | 15:01 |
| zequence | I can't really advice on that | 15:03 |
| Cenbe | Installing 310 as we speak. | 15:03 |
| Cenbe | And, reboot... | 15:07 |
| Cenbe | tee minus three, two, one... | 15:09 |
| Baker | Godspeed, Cenbe. | 15:09 |
| Cenbe | And, REBOOT! We have reboot of the latest Ubuntu Studio running the Nvidia drivers! | 15:10 |
| Cenbe | [the control room erupts in cheers] | 15:10 |
| Baker | Yaaay! | 15:10 |
| Cenbe | Thank you, gentlemen. | 15:10 |
| Baker | We couldn't have done it without you. | 15:10 |
| Cenbe | heh | 15:10 |
| Cenbe | Nouveau misbehaves on that machine. | 15:11 |
| Baker | So I've got a tiny noobish question that relates to Mozilla. I'm new to firefox, so I have absolutely no idea how it works. How do I view the bookmark toolbar? | 15:12 |
| Cenbe | View/Toolbars/Bookmarks toolbar (or View/Sidebar/Bookmarks) | 15:14 |
| Baker | Wow, that was really simple, haha. Thank you. | 15:14 |
| zequence | Baker: You can also just right click on some of the areas in the control area to select/deselect what you want to view | 15:21 |
| zequence | Such as the main manu | 15:21 |
| zequence | menu* | 15:21 |
| zequence | Sorry, the menu bar | 15:22 |
| Baker | Yeah, I just found that | 15:22 |
| Baker | I've used Chrome for the past year or so, so it's a bit jarring switching to Mozilla | 15:22 |
| Baker | But it's been pretty smooth other than that bookmark thing. I dig it. | 15:23 |
| zequence | Baker: You can get chromium-browser, if you prefer it | 15:23 |
| Baker | Well I made the switch because Chrome and Chromium were prone to crashing a lot on my computer. | 15:24 |
| zequence | I'm a hardcore FF guy myself | 15:24 |
| Baker | I like FF so far | 15:25 |
| * smartboyhw uses FF all day | 15:25 | |
| smartboyhw | As our class motto says: "IE is the downloader of Firefox or Chrome." | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, ^ P | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | s/P/;P/ | 15:25 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Ah, you mean that funny looking browser you get with WINE? | 15:27 |
| Baker | Hahaha, I haven't used IE in years. | 15:27 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, what you can run IE in Wine? IE = Internet Explorer | 15:27 |
| zequence | I might happen to run IE if I had too much of WINE | 15:28 |
| zequence | tedx talk about what tech industry has learned from Torvalds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI | 15:30 |
| Cenbe | zequence: thanks, inspiring video | 15:52 |
| Baker | Hey, can anyone help me with this? My laptop only has one speaker, but Ubuntu wants to output sound in stereo. So when I listen to music, I only hear half of it. How can I disable stereo sound? | 15:58 |
| zequence | Baker: I don't think pulseaudio has a mono config | 16:00 |
| zequence | Baker: But, if you use the pulse to jack bridge, you can route both left and right PA outputs to only one of the channels on your card | 16:00 |
| Baker | Really? Damn, I was hoping there was a way to change it. I've been screwing around with the sound settings, and I haven't found anything. | 16:00 |
| zequence | Baker: Some audio players have mono | 16:01 |
| zequence | I think vlc can be run in mono | 16:01 |
| Baker | Does Audacious? | 16:01 |
| zequence | I don't Audacious very well, but have a look in its settings | 16:01 |
| Baker | I does not. Oh well, I'll solve this later. Thanks for the help! | 16:02 |
| rgomes | I'm begginner in ubantu studio. I use a M-audio fast track pro but I can't configure it to Jack. How can I do it? | 16:17 |
| zequence | rgomes: Have a check here.. | 16:19 |
| zequence | !proaudio | 16:20 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 16:20 |
| zequence | rgomes: This, specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro#UbuntuStudio.2BAC8-ProAudioIntro.2BAC8-1204.Starting_Jack | 16:20 |
| zequence | rgomes: If you have an error, post the error message here, and give us the link http://paste.ubuntu.com | 16:20 |
| rgomes | I still having problems with m-audio fast track pro. I can hear sounds on but I can't record. I also can't hear sound on youtube. I really liked Ubunto Studio, but maybe I'll return to previous platform if I could work on it. | 17:16 |
| holstein | rgomes: i wouldnt pose it as a threat.. i mean,if you want to bail, bail.. but if you are hearing sounds, then id say its a simple routing issue in JACK | 17:19 |
| holstein | rgomes: i usually just route all the inputs to a track in ardour and test that way.. then start manually disconnecting til i see what is what | 17:20 |
| holstein | you cant trust any of the labels in alsa or JACK | 17:20 |
| rgomes | I really don't want return to my previous platform for any reasons. My time is runnig and I need still working. I hope I can solve these problems. | 17:22 |
| rgomes | I opened jack configurantions and clicked fast track there. no results. | 17:23 |
| holstein | rgomes: are you using JACK? | 17:23 |
| holstein | !proaudio | 17:23 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 17:23 |
| rgomes | yes | 17:23 |
| holstein | rgomes: you are hearing audio through the fast track? | 17:24 |
| rgomes | yes. but just in ardour. | 17:24 |
| holstein | rgomes: you mean, just ardour playback works? | 17:25 |
| rgomes | yes. just ardour playback works. | 17:25 |
| holstein | rgomes: playback of what? | 17:25 |
| holstein | rgomes: open ardour, and create a track.. click on "connect" in qjackctl and route all the inputs of the sound device on the left to the new track on the right | 17:26 |
| rgomes | playback of some audio files I imported. | 17:26 |
| holstein | rgomes: tak a screenshot if you need help | 17:26 |
| holstein | take* | 17:26 |
| holstein | send something you *know* works though an input on the fast track.. | 17:28 |
| holstein | a guitar into a guitar input | 17:28 |
| holstein | a mic in a mic input.. something that you know will send a signal properly | 17:28 |
| rgomes | I just did it. no results | 17:28 |
| holstein | rgomes: in what way? | 17:28 |
| holstein | rgomes: do you hear it in the unit? in the monitoring? | 17:28 |
| rgomes | there is signal on fast track. but no signal on ardour. | 17:29 |
| holstein | rgomes: take a screenshot of the connect window of jack | 17:29 |
| holstein | please | 17:29 |
| holstein | imagebin it | 17:29 |
| holstein | rgomes: you have the track armed in ardour? | 17:30 |
| rgomes | ok. just a minute. | 17:30 |
| rgomes | sorry. how can I take screenshot? | 17:33 |
| holstein | rgomes: do you have the track armed? | 17:33 |
| rgomes | yes | 17:33 |
| holstein | rgomes: you need to hit the "record" button on the track for it to show activity.. do you have it armed? | 17:33 |
| holstein | i take a screenshot with "printscreen" | 17:34 |
| rgomes | I push the record button and nothing happen | 17:34 |
| holstein | rgomes: there are *2* record buttons.. you hit the one on the channel to arm the track | 17:35 |
| holstein | rgomes: then, you should see the activity monitor moving | 17:35 |
| rgomes | I see it moving. but nothing is recorded. | 17:36 |
| holstein | rgomes: if its moving, then the signal is getting routed to ardour | 17:36 |
| rgomes | sorry I still trying take a screenshot. | 17:36 |
| holstein | rgomes: the fast track is working properly at that point, and being routed correctly | 17:36 |
| holstein | rgomes: stop with the screenshot please | 17:36 |
| rgomes | ok. | 17:36 |
| holstein | rgomes: hit the record button at the very top of ardour | 17:36 |
| nello | hi, where is hardware drivers? | 17:36 |
| holstein | *then* hit the play button to actually begin recording | 17:37 |
| holstein | nello: they are mostly in the kernel.. the linux kernel is "modular" | 17:37 |
| holstein | !ati | 17:37 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 17:37 |
| holstein | !broadcom | 17:37 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 17:37 |
| holstein | ^^ those are common modules that folks need that cannot be included in the ubuntu kernels | 17:37 |
| nello | yes broadcom not installed correctly | 17:37 |
| nello | thanks a lot | 17:38 |
| rgomes | i did it. It starts singn | 17:38 |
| holstein | nello: i just do it manually.. check that wiki page and let us know.. | 17:38 |
| nello | my notebook is an old d531 latitude from dell | 17:38 |
| nello | i don't have "System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers" | 17:41 |
| nello | in the menu... | 17:41 |
| rgomes | one more thing. The Jack on very top of my desktop, near the sounds configurations shows a message: "Jack is stopped". | 17:42 |
| holstein | nello: i just do it manually | 17:42 |
| holstein | rgomes: then, jack is stopped... | 17:42 |
| holstein | rgomes: there is an order.. i open qjackctl, and start JACK.. *then* i open other jack dependant applications | 17:42 |
| rgomes | yes and I trayed to unlock it. | 17:43 |
| holstein | rgomes: its not "locked".. its stopped | 17:43 |
| holstein | rgomes: it can be running in the background, and you can be stuck trying to start it | 17:43 |
| holstein | you can use ps aux to find the process and kill it, or kill it manually (or just restart) | 17:43 |
| rgomes | this is the message in jackctl | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 4:44:58.327 Logging started --- sáb abr 27 14:44:58 2013 --- | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 14:44:58.336 Patchbay deactivated. | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 14:44:58.337 Statistics reset. | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 14:44:58.351 ALSA connection change. | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 14:44:58.362 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus). | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 14:44:58.412 JACK connection change. | 17:46 |
| rgomes | 14:44:58.427 Client activated. | 17:46 |
| rgomes | (qjackctl.real:5194): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed | 17:46 |
| rgomes | (qjackctl.real:5194): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed | 17:46 |
| holstein | !paste | rgomes | 17:47 |
| ubottu | rgomes: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:47 |
| holstein | rgomes: if JACK is working, then its working | 17:47 |
| rgomes | yes. I am sorry. I have to know so much. | 17:48 |
| holstein | rgomes: i have to run... try #opensourcemusicians ...i know folks there have that device and ubuntu as well :) | 17:49 |
| holstein | rgomes: no worries.. you'll get it sorted | 17:49 |
| holstein | i dont think you have any support issues.. just a matter of learning the ropes, so to speak, and getting things configured | 17:49 |
| rgomes | thank you so much. | 17:49 |
| holstein | anyways, good luck.. i'll check back in later... cheers | 17:49 |
| holstein | *any hardware support issues is what i mean.. nothing that cant be "fixed" :) | 17:50 |
| sirriffsalot | Is there a way to have several versions of an application installed at the same time? In this case phasex? | 18:40 |
| sirriffsalot | My old presets don't work in the new release! | 18:40 |
| trgh65765432fdr | /join ♯ardour | 18:49 |
| trgh65765432fdr | ups | 18:50 |
| trgh65765432fdr | /join #ardour | 18:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You have a sharp key? Jealous! | 18:52 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: You can build one and put it in /usr/local | 18:57 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: /usr/local/bin is looked before /usr/bin, so when you want to run the /usr/bin version, you need to do specify the path | 18:58 |
| zequence | /usr/local is quite nice to use for custom builds | 18:59 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: thanks! Would the easiest way be to just tick the "download packages only" and take off from there? | 19:04 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: .deb packages are installers, and include binaries. You can't really use them. You'd have to build from source | 19:15 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: But, you may be able to unpack the debian package, depending on how comlicated the application is, you might be able to run it from wherever | 19:16 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: damn, ok | 19:16 |
| zequence | unpack it just like a tar or zip file | 19:16 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: it really is a shame that the phasex presets don't work on later versions, why is this? | 19:16 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: I don't know phasex, but I guess the newer version is not backwards compatible | 19:17 |
| anb25 | Thinking of putting Ubuntu Studio 13.04 on my machine, but trying live CD, I see that it still has Ardour 2.8 - is Ardour 3 in the repositories? | 19:41 |
| sirriffsalot | anb25: yep | 19:54 |
| sirriffsalot | anb25: the kxstudio one | 19:54 |
| zequence | Ardour 3 was just released before the release of 13.04, so it wasn't included | 19:55 |
| sirriffsalot | anb25: in case you haven't tried the latest ardour stuff yet, I have still to find myself struggling to open a session.. the worst you can get are crashes, very minor | 19:55 |
| zequence | The kxstudio build is based on the package being prepared in Debian experimental | 19:55 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: yeah+ | 19:57 |
| sirriffsalot | ?* | 19:57 |
| anb25 | Thanks for the info - I tried a beta of Ardour 3 on AVLinux, but just for a look see. | 19:58 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: debian are working on an ardour 3 build?? | 19:59 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: what's taking them so long; kxstudio fellas did it almost immediately | 19:59 |
| len-1304 | The best way is to download from the ardour site. That way you will have the best support. | 20:10 |
| len-1304 | We include the latest we have in the repos and try to keep it up to date. But that is foremost for completeness. | 20:10 |
| len-1304 | anb25, sirriffsalot ^^^ | 20:11 |
| len-1304 | The people at the ardour site and at #ardour tend to only support a version downloaded from their site | 20:12 |
| sirriffsalot | I know.. sad | 20:13 |
| len-1304 | They only have so much time... and really, while I don't like the way they dis anything not their own build, I would prefer they send as much of their available time coding new stuff anyway. | 20:14 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: The package is ready in Debian, but if you haven't heard of release schedules, you probably don't realize why packages aren't released instantly from them being packaged | 20:21 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: Also, there's some effort that goes into packaging, and the reason why kx had it so quickly was because the work was already done in Debian | 20:21 |
| zequence | This is true to most kx packages | 20:22 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: Aha | 20:22 |
| zequence | They are not original packages done in KX | 20:22 |
| zequence | falktx may have tweaked some of them, adding VST support or whatever | 20:23 |
| zequence | He stands on someone elses shoulders though | 20:23 |
| zequence | Debian first, and then Ubuntu | 20:23 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: But.. if Debian did it first.. where is the debian package? o.O I looked for it a lot | 20:24 |
| zequence | sirriffsalot: It's in a git repo | 20:25 |
| zequence | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-multimedia/ardour3.git;a=summary | 20:25 |
| sirriffsalot | I'll be damned | 20:26 |
| zequence | Debian is just moments away from releasing Wheezy, which is Debian 7. Their testing repo is frozen many months back | 20:26 |
| zequence | Once Wheezy is released (5th of may, probably), Ardour will soon end up, first in experimental, then sometime in testing | 20:27 |
| zequence | The guys who do pretty much all the pro audio packaging in the Debian based world of distributions, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, KX, etc, are the Debian Multimedia Team | 20:29 |
| zequence | So, if you want to thank someone for having lots of audio software on these distros, you should thank them first | 20:29 |
| sirriffsalot | I don't want to thank anyone for just that hehe, I thank the whole community | 20:29 |
| sirriffsalot | By the way, I tried installing fluxbox as enlightenment was giving me some trouble with a realtime kernel, but when logging in it just stays on a white-ish screen with the mouse moving around.. any ideas? | 20:30 |
| sirriffsalot | with the mouse visible and* capable of being moved around | 20:30 |
| zequence | I've never really used fluxbox myself | 20:31 |
| sirriffsalot | How come? | 20:31 |
| zequence | How come you've never been to the moon? I don't know | 20:31 |
| sirriffsalot | Cause I can't, hahaha | 20:31 |
| sirriffsalot | And furthermore, heights make me uncomfortable | 20:31 |
| zequence | Well, I feel quite comfortable with Gnome3, and awesome | 20:32 |
| sirriffsalot | And g-forces at that level make me nauseous | 20:32 |
| sirriffsalot | Ah yea, I remember you mentioning that.. but really | 20:32 |
| sirriffsalot | Gnome has a lot of silly stuff running in the background o.O | 20:32 |
| zequence | One of the things that UBuntu Studio will be doing for 13.10 is looking at using multiple DEs. We might be adding support for KDE, Unity and Gnome3 | 20:33 |
| zequence | Maybe even LXDE | 20:33 |
| sirriffsalot | zequence: FANTASTIC :) | 20:33 |
| len-1304 | sirriffsalot, so does xfce | 20:33 |
| sirriffsalot | len-1304: yeah, hence I use neither, hehe | 20:33 |
| sirriffsalot | Would trying the 13 beta on a production computer be with it? | 20:34 |
| len-1304 | sirriffsalot, we are trying to balance desktop usability from what people are used to with trimness. | 20:35 |
| len-1304 | I might like a really trim DE, but then the terminal gets used more. Some people never use a terminal. | 20:36 |
| sirriffsalot | Enlightenment really is great.. | 20:36 |
| sirriffsalot | I've had little to no problems with it | 20:36 |
| sirriffsalot | Highly configurable, for keybinds of all kinds for fast application startups etc | 20:37 |
| sirriffsalot | 12 years of work must mean something | 20:37 |
| len-1304 | We also benefit from having people on both studio and xubuntu teams. | 20:37 |
| len-1304 | I am sure it does. | 20:37 |
| sirriffsalot | Practice--> | 20:38 |
| len-1304 | Having xubuntu taking care of things that break in the DE frees us from doing that though. | 20:38 |
| len-1304 | Ok | 20:38 |
| aenertia | Hi all, I think I have found a major bug with 13.04, have confirmed it on two seperate platforms. Basically hdmi audio out does not work. I have tried the usual aliasing of the device etc, but no sound. And Pulse refuses to see the card, or even load when manually having the alsa-sink device= option added | 21:57 |
| aenertia | aplay shows the devices (nvidia and ati cards repspectively on the two systems I tried) but any output to them results in no sound ( yes I have checked they are unmuted) | 21:58 |
| aenertia | can others confirm they have working hdmi out sound? | 21:58 |
| aenertia | The receiver is a Yamaha, and works fine when booting from 12.10 or other OS's. | 22:00 |
| aenertia | I thought it may have been an issue with the way jack/pa are setup in ubuntu studio but as I said no sound even on the raw alsa device with everything else killed | 22:01 |
| zequence | aenertia: Seems like I can confirm that | 22:07 |
| aenertia | zequence: damn | 22:08 |
| aenertia | zequence: I wonder if it is related to the rt kernel? | 22:09 |
| zequence | aenertia: no | 22:09 |
| aenertia | are the alsa version the same used in the 13.04 generic kernel or patched? | 22:09 |
| zequence | aenertia: And it's not a -rt kernel, it's -lowlatency | 22:09 |
| aenertia | sorry | 22:09 |
| aenertia | lowlatency | 22:09 |
| zequence | The -lowlatency kernel is a copy of generic, with almost no difference to the code | 22:09 |
| aenertia | I haven't check to see if bog standard ubuntu13.04 works. I assume it will given that it would be a huge bug if it doesn't | 22:10 |
| aenertia | what about alsa? | 22:11 |
| zequence | aenertia: It's either alsa or pulseaudio | 22:11 |
| zequence | I'm looking at it right now | 22:11 |
| aenertia | Yeah I might pull the alsa sources from git and compile see what happens. | 22:12 |
| aenertia | I generally don't use pulse myself. | 22:12 |
| zequence | pulse sees my card though | 22:12 |
| aenertia | Whilst on the topic, have you ever been able to get jack to use an hdmi source? | 22:12 |
| zequence | hdmi only has playback, so you need to specify that | 22:13 |
| aenertia | I tried adding a bunch of software mixers and pcm device aliases to mine in the hope of using it as a monitor with no luck | 22:13 |
| zequence | I don't remember, if I've got it to work before. Not right now anyway | 22:13 |
| aenertia | ok will have a look | 22:14 |
| aenertia | jack is still very much something i've used only for midi input routing | 22:14 |
| rgomes | hi, zequence! its me again. we chat today earlier. I still tryaing to make my m-audio works in ardour. | 22:16 |
| zequence | rgomes: If you're able to start jack with it, then it's just a matter of connections and levels | 22:17 |
| zequence | Making sure, for instance, that if you have a knob for "monitor/output", that it's not turned the wrong way, etc | 22:18 |
| rgomes | I am not sure. fast track is working for playback, but not for record. | 22:19 |
| zequence | rgomes: If playback works with jack, then it works | 22:19 |
| zequence | rgomes: Could you paste the log from jack, after you started it. Paste it here http://paste.ubuntu.com, and give me the link | 22:19 |
| rgomes | one more thing. on sound conficurations, m-audio shows a padlock | 22:20 |
| zequence | rgomes: sound configurations? Please make a difference between jack and pulseaudio. | 22:21 |
| zequence | rgomes: Did you read through it all? | 22:21 |
| zequence | !proaudio | 22:21 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 22:21 |
| zequence | rgomes: Are you using jack with ardour? | 22:23 |
| rgomes | yes. with ardour | 22:24 |
| zequence | rgomes: Yes, but you are using jack, correct? | 22:27 |
| zequence | qjackctl? | 22:27 |
| rgomes | well. I don't know about it. probably not. I opened jack audio connection kit and it seems works. | 22:28 |
| zequence | aenertia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1170820 | 22:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1169984 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "duplicate for #1170820 3.8.0-18 HDMI audio regression: Either oops or opening device fails with -ENODEV" [High,Fix committed] | 22:28 |
| zequence | rgomes: That's qjackctl | 22:29 |
| zequence | rgomes: I asked you for the log after you start jack, but let me give you another one first | 22:29 |
| zequence | rgomes: Do this in the commandline: cat ~/.jackdrc | 22:29 |
| zequence | paste the results here http://paste.ubuntu.com | 22:30 |
| rgomes | ok. | 22:30 |
| zequence | aenertia: Seems like devs are on it | 22:31 |
| rgomes | sorry. I am completely blind on it. where is comand line? | 22:31 |
| aenertia | eck | 22:33 |
| aenertia | so not just a studio bug | 22:33 |
| zequence | aenertia: Ubuntu Studio has nothing custom about either the kernel or the audio system | 22:33 |
| zequence | aenertia: There is a very slight chance that you may get problems on -lowlatency that you wouldn't on -generic, but nothing related to audio | 22:34 |
| aenertia | ok thanks zequence | 22:34 |
| zequence | -lowlatency is just a reconfigured -generic, improved for lower latency | 22:34 |
| zequence | rgomes: Oh, sorry. I missed your last comment | 22:41 |
| zequence | rgomes: A terminal. Program where you can make console commands | 22:41 |
| zequence | rgomes: In Ubuntu Studio, in the menu "Terminal Emulator" | 22:42 |
| zequence | I could ask you to do the same thing using file managers, and text editors, etc, but it would just take me much longer to explain | 22:42 |
| zequence | Believe it or not, using the terminal is much faster, if you just know the right commands | 22:42 |
| zequence | For troubleshooting Linux stuff on IRC, you will use it a lot | 22:43 |
| rgomes | ok. | 22:43 |
| zequence | So, the command you put in is: cat ~/.jackdrc | 22:43 |
| zequence | "cat" is a program that can read a file, and output its contents | 22:43 |
| zequence | "~/" is the adress for home of the logged in user | 22:44 |
| zequence | ".jackdrc" is the configuration file for jackd | 22:44 |
| zequence | You can find it in your home folder, if you enable the file manager to show hidden files, i.e. files beginning with a dot | 22:44 |
| zequence | All though, qjackctl is set to start jackdbus by default, when you make settings, and save them, it will save them also in the jackd config file | 22:45 |
| zequence | So, I want to see what kind of settings you have done | 22:45 |
| zequence | rgomes: Actually, it's just one line, so you can just paste it right here if you want | 22:46 |
| rgomes | well, my ubuntu is in portuguese. the message translated is "bash: jack~/.rdc: fale or directory not found | 22:46 |
| zequence | rgomes: You didn't write it correctly | 22:46 |
| zequence | rgomes: cat ~/.jackdrc | 22:46 |
| rgomes | sorry. i wrote correctly there and rewrote. same message. | 22:48 |
| zequence | jack~/.rdc is not a file | 22:48 |
| zequence | rgomes: Ok, you know what. I don't think you have started jack with the right device even | 22:49 |
| zequence | rgomes: do this in the terminal: cat /proc/asound/cards | 22:49 |
| zequence | paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com | 22:49 |
| zequence | rgomes: Don't write the command. Copy it, and paste it into the terminal | 22:49 |
| zequence | You can paste with Shift+Ctrl+V | 22:50 |
| zequence | rgomes: I'm not trying to be rude now, but just asking, do you have dyslexi or something? | 22:51 |
| rgomes | ok. done. | 22:52 |
| zequence | rgomes: You'll need to give me the link | 22:52 |
| rgomes | no. I am just confuse and very very busy | 22:52 |
| zequence | rgomes: So, did you paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com? I can't see it if you don't give me the link | 22:54 |
| zequence | It's been 40 minutes, and I've still seen zero information about your system | 22:55 |
| rgomes | I paste that on ubuntu. but I cant give you the link, couse I trying to creat a count. | 22:55 |
| zequence | Ok, I need to go to sleep now. But, maybe someone else can help you | 22:55 |
| zequence | rgomes: I do suggest you read about jack though | 22:55 |
| zequence | rgomes: Read carefully on how to start jack https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro#UbuntuStudio.2BAC8-ProAudioIntro.2BAC8-1204.Jack_-_The_Pro_Audio_Sound_System | 22:56 |
| rgomes | ok. I'm stopping for today. I am tired and I will drive you crazy in few minutes. Sorry. | 22:57 |
| rgomes | actually, I read it. I followed all instructions but.... | 22:58 |
| holstein | rgomes: you dont need an account to paste to ubuntu paste | 22:59 |
| zequence | rgomes: It's too bad that using audio on Linux is so technical. It takes a bit of time. I recommend to learn about the details | 22:59 |
| holstein | !paste | 22:59 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 22:59 |
| holstein | using jack can be.. but you might not need jack | 22:59 |
| zequence | The problem is, as soon as you want to produce music, you do need jack | 23:00 |
| holstein | i remember just playing around with auacity for a long time in windows before moving on to cubase.. then to linux/JACK | 23:00 |
| zequence | You don't buy a fast track pro, and not use jack | 23:00 |
| zequence | There's no getting around it. jack is what you use for pro audio | 23:00 |
| holstein | i would also just play around with the internal card for a bit with JACK | 23:00 |
| zequence | so, you have to learn how to use it | 23:00 |
| rgomes | I paste on ubuntu. how can I send you? | 23:01 |
| holstein | rgomes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610367/ | 23:02 |
| rgomes | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610372/ | 23:05 |
| rgomes | thanks, holstein. | 23:05 |
| holstein | if it were me, i would unplug the keyrig, and disable the internal sound card.. that should leave you with just the one device | 23:08 |
| holstein | rgomes: ^ | 23:08 |
| rgomes | ok. I will try it. | 23:09 |
| holstein | i would try an reduce the variables.. you have lots of unknowns right now.. get rid of as many as possible and take one battle at a time | 23:09 |
| rgomes | your are right. my problem is I have many works to do and really dont want to return to previous platform no more. Well, I have to take a time to learn how to work on this platform I choose and want to use forever. | 23:13 |
| rgomes | thank you very much holstein. thank you zequence. | 23:14 |
| holstein | rgomes: sure... you'll get it :) | 23:14 |
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