| jdf80 | anyone having issues with archive manager crashing in 13.04? | 00:22 |
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| === xubuntu is now known as Guest37968 | ||
| Guest37968 | hi guys i'm trying the live session xubuntu.. did you had any problems installing xubuntu alongside win8? | 00:25 |
| w30 | I'm trying to configure compiz with ccsm but the settings won't survive a re-login. What needs to be done to keep xubuntu from re-dooing my settingsz/ | 00:27 |
| w30 | I want cube and rotate cube for one thing but wall and expo keep coming back. | 00:29 |
| w30 | I'm trying to configure compiz with ccsm but the settings won't survive a re-login. What needs to be done to keep xubuntu from ripping out my settings ? | 00:41 |
| ball | I didn't know compiz could be used with Xubuntu | 00:48 |
| ball | ...not that it was ever really on my wish list. | 00:48 |
| ball | Is it just for whirling the desktop around? | 00:50 |
| w30 | I guess Linus liked his wobbly windows and I like the whirling cube..... | 00:50 |
| w30 | ball, the 4 cube sides each represent a desktop | 00:51 |
| w30 | ball, if you don't like one side you can pick another. | 00:51 |
| ball | So it's just a resource-intensive way to do virtual desktops? | 00:52 |
| w30 | ball, it's mostly a way to impress Vista users and their fanning windows or whatever they had | 00:53 |
| kRush | a cube with 4 sides? does not compute | 00:53 |
| ball | My life would be insanely sad if I were worried about impressing Windows Vista users. | 00:54 |
| w30 | kRush, the top and bottom have a picture or a transparency | 00:54 |
| kRush | why not another virtual desktop? | 00:55 |
| ball | flower pots, that's what it needs. | 00:56 |
| w30 | kRush, why not! hy not use Unity, Fedora, or Windows 8? | 00:56 |
| w30 | hy/why | 00:56 |
| * ball tinkers with LibreOffice | 00:57 | |
| ball | brb | 00:58 |
| kRush | because two of the three are pretty retarded =o | 01:02 |
| ball | Does Xubuntu come with something that can decode base64 attachments from the command line? | 01:14 |
| ball | (a modern equivalent of uudecode)? | 01:14 |
| ball | Ah man base64 contained a clue ;-) | 01:15 |
| ball | It works! | 01:16 |
| David-A | ball: maybe you already know about man -k <word> and apropos <word> | 01:24 |
| zodiak | man -k woman .. for example | 01:24 |
| ball | No idea what -k does, but I use "man foo" etc. | 01:25 |
| David-A | ball: man <word> looks for help for a command named exactly <word>, with -k it search for keywords | 01:26 |
| David-A | ball: including parts of words (fortunately and sometimes unfortunately) | 01:26 |
| MrHotsauce | is there anyway to reset the sound indicator in the panel? mines locked up and i can control volume from it | 01:27 |
| UserAttack | Hello all. How do I update? I am not seeing anything in Software Updater | 01:32 |
| MrHotsauce | UserAttack: do "sudo do-release-upgrade" in terminal | 01:34 |
| UserAttack | Thanks :) | 01:34 |
| MrHotsauce | mhm | 01:34 |
| xubuntu874 | has anyone setup xubuntu 13.04 with touch screen.. such as how ubuntu works? | 01:35 |
| xubuntu874 | multitouch, gestures.. etc | 01:36 |
| xubuntu874 | I don't need to know how to do it.. just if it's doable.. | 01:40 |
| ball | Oh, is that why Unity is a bit odd? Is it meant for touch screens? | 01:42 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, check your sound devices, maybe one output or input device got switched to the wrong one. | 01:42 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, click on the sound icon and then settings | 01:43 |
| xubuntu874 | I guess.. but I'm not a unity fan.. I'd rather give xubuntu a spin. but would like to know if it's a pain to setup gestures.. etc | 01:43 |
| MrHotsauce | its not that its literally frozen spotify still says its playing a song when ive closed it a while ago | 01:43 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, kill the process? | 01:44 |
| MrHotsauce | i killed spotify unless you mean kill the panel | 01:45 |
| ball | I've never tries Xubuntu on a touch screen. I think one of the reasons I like Xfce is that it's a more conventional desktop, suitable for office use. | 01:45 |
| xubuntu874 | I'd agree with that.. I've always used opensuse and kde.. but thought I'd give xubuntu a try on the yoga 13 | 01:46 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, reboot? | 01:46 |
| MrHotsauce | that works but id like to know if i can fix it without doing that | 01:47 |
| MrHotsauce | its happened once before | 01:47 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, donno... sorry | 01:47 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, sound dosen't get any better in Linux, just more complicated. | 01:50 |
| MrHotsauce | well ive been on 13.04 for a month using daily builds but as soon as it released the other day i got the sound panel error | 01:51 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, when you have a 15 or 20 digit name for a sound device, What can you expect? | 01:51 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, like pci-0000:1:00.1 what the hell do we need that for? | 01:54 |
| MrHotsauce | also anyone have any idea why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/XJCFhnMM | 02:03 |
| holstein | MrHotsauce: what is happening? | 02:03 |
| MrHotsauce | saying update is available yet im already updated | 02:04 |
| w30 | MrHotsauce, I have a bad habit of hitting the scroll wheel when I have the mouse in focus in a config window and sometimes I select the next device or config option of some kind without knowing it. I keep learning not to nervously scroll the wheel but alas I still do it sometimes. | 02:04 |
| holstein | MrHotsauce: are you fully upgraed? | 02:04 |
| MrHotsauce | pretty sure i am | 02:04 |
| MrHotsauce | i cant do another update | 02:04 |
| holstein | MrHotsauce: sudo apt-get update .. see if you have any errors.. then, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ..if you want | 02:04 |
| MrHotsauce | w30 its not a device issue ive only one sound device | 02:05 |
| MrHotsauce | holstein: nothing 0 updates | 02:05 |
| MrHotsauce | ****@*******~$ sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found <--and thats when i try to do the release upgrade | 02:06 |
| w30 | holstein, how do I get ccsm to write a config and make it stick. I loose it because xubuntu throws it away and puts its own back in or a relogin. | 02:11 |
| holstein | MrHotsauce: i wouldnt worry about it unless there is an isssue | 02:12 |
| w30 | holstein, I want cube and rotate cube not expo and wall | 02:13 |
| MrHotsauce | no issue just irks me why it says i need to update is all | 02:13 |
| holstein | w30: not sure.. i didnt have the trouble back in 12.04, and i personally gave up on compiz | 02:13 |
| w30 | holstein, I am going to follow suit I suppose, I fight it every upgrade and it gets worse. My Grandpa wouldn't give up his horses for a Ford Tractor either so it's in my genes. | 02:17 |
| holstein | w30: its over.. cubes and fire.. however, 12.04 is supported for quite some time.. | 02:20 |
| w30 | holstein, I suppose its hard to get someone to maintain a project when you have a possible user base of two or $1.98 worth of sales. | 02:24 |
| holstein | w30: compiz is just going a different direction.. | 02:29 |
| === dasein is now known as Guest22816 | ||
| mrdolt | hey, i have updated from 12.10 to 13.04. Now my system hangs before the login screen. I can't break out to a command prompt and pressing escape at sstartup i don't get a bootmenu | 03:27 |
| unowindows8 | hello. I broke my grub | 03:27 |
| ruien | mrdolt: am I correct in thinking this means the issue is after grub? Meaning, your grub is working OK and tries to load xubuntu, at which point it freezes? | 03:29 |
| unowindows8 | i cant start up at all | 03:30 |
| unowindows8 | cannot even live boot to fix with boot fixer | 03:30 |
| unowindows8 | also tried commands in grub rescue> | 03:30 |
| mrdolt | i get the xubuntu splash screen and a spining thing but then it stops | 03:30 |
| mrdolt | if i press escape i can watch things load but then it conks out | 03:30 |
| unowindows8 | sorry didnt realize you were talking to mrdolt | 03:31 |
| ruien | unowindows8: if you boot from the 13.04 live USB, it doesn't even load? | 03:31 |
| cfhowlett | unowindows8, reinstall grub | 03:31 |
| Dayofswords | anyone know what update-notifier-common does? I noticed it seems to hang the system during install of xubuntu for a while and but it's not touching disk, CPU or network. | 03:31 |
| unowindows8 | ruien, thanks. live usb menu comes up completely distorted is unusable. i try running xubuntu by pressing enter, video is completely distorted | 03:31 |
| ruien | mrdolt: try loading with ACPI=off, i once had a similar problem, just to see if that works | 03:31 |
| unowindows8 | ruien: can install grub without live booting? | 03:32 |
| ruien | unowindows8: wow. how did you create the live USB? Have you tried using unetbootin? | 03:32 |
| unowindows8 | ruien: I did use it. I tested it on another machine, my Toshiba laptop, it opened fine | 03:32 |
| ruien | no, i would recommend making sure you can boot from the live USB, and then once that is working, use that to reinstall grub. That's how I would do it | 03:32 |
| mrdolt | ok, but the worse problem is grub doesn't respond to my attempt to bring up the menu. it just goes to the boot | 03:33 |
| holstein | mrdolt: you hould be able to get to it from a live CD and edit | 03:34 |
| ruien | mrdolt: yeah, you can make that change within your grub conf, so i would say boot to a live USB first, then re-install grub with the acpi off set | 03:34 |
| mrdolt | awesome, thx! | 03:34 |
| ruien | mrdolt: hold on a sec, i have more info | 03:34 |
| mrdolt | ok | 03:34 |
| cfhowlett | unowindows8, 2 suggestions: md5sum your ISO and check disk disk integrity of your USB. | 03:36 |
| unowindows8 | got it | 03:36 |
| unowindows8 | I've seen that around | 03:36 |
| ruien | mrdolt: okay, i believe the right way to do this is in /etc/default/grub set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=off quiet splash" | 03:37 |
| unowindows8 | but could my usb still not have full integrity even if it loads well on a different laptop? | 03:37 |
| ruien | unowindows8: yes, it could happen, since different machines load different drivers, so one machine might be not hitting the corrupted file at all | 03:37 |
| cfhowlett | unowindows8, this is why you CHECK integrity of both the ISO and the usb ... | 03:38 |
| cfhowlett | unowindows8, 60 seconds of work to eliminate any doubt | 03:38 |
| unowindows8 | the iso that went into the USB cant be accessed because I had downloaded to same Windows 8 machine with grub problem | 03:39 |
| unowindows8 | but I will check the USB stick on my 2nd machine | 03:39 |
| ruien | that should work | 03:39 |
| unowindows8 | ruien: thanks | 03:40 |
| unowindows8 | I'll be back later | 03:40 |
| ruien | k | 03:40 |
| lighta | hi guys, I just installed lubuntu 13.04 but my old firefox profil keep make me crash, any idea ? | 03:44 |
| holstein | lighta: your old FF .mozilla config? | 03:56 |
| pleks | Hi,I'm trying to dist upgrade from xubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, the problem is I clicked on the upgrade button in the Software Updater and clicked through to the screen where it says it will download x packages, it's 900mb it will take 20min and so on. At this stage I had to move my laptop so I clicked the cancel button instead of starting the download. But the problem now is that the Software Updates says I'm up to date so I can not cont | 04:00 |
| pleks | tried google but did not find anything | 04:00 |
| holstein | pleks: i would just try to do it from the command line | 04:00 |
| pleks | I have | 04:01 |
| holstein | pleks: and? | 04:01 |
| MrHotsauce | pleks: have you tried "sudo do-release-upgrade" in command line? | 04:01 |
| pleks | using do-release-upgrade -d | 04:01 |
| MrHotsauce | hm | 04:01 |
| pleks | it says im up to date | 04:01 |
| MrHotsauce | i think you can use a bootable usb of the 13.04 image and upgrade that way | 04:02 |
| pleks | so it must be marked somewhere I guess that I have already upgraded even though I have not | 04:02 |
| Wally | there's a 13.04? | 04:02 |
| holstein | pleks: sounds like you are upgraded | 04:02 |
| pleks | ok, I can try that | 04:02 |
| Wally | BLAH | 04:02 |
| pleks | I am not upgraded, I aborted before downloading | 04:02 |
| MrHotsauce | what does lsb_release -a in command line turn up? | 04:03 |
| pleks | is says 12.10 | 04:03 |
| MrHotsauce | hrm | 04:03 |
| pleks | and "No LSB modules are available." | 04:03 |
| pleks | very strange | 04:04 |
| MrHotsauce | ive a computer that says im running 13.04 and that i need to update to 13.04 | 04:04 |
| holstein | sudo do-release-upgrade -d says what pleks ? | 04:04 |
| pleks | it says "No new release found" | 04:05 |
| holstein | pleks: sudo apt-get upda returns no errors? | 04:06 |
| pleks | no errors | 04:07 |
| holstein | pleks: i would try other package managers | 04:08 |
| holstein | i would also fresh install pretty quick, since that takes the least amount of time | 04:09 |
| holstein | pleks: http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/rescuing-an-interrupted-ubuntu-upgrade/ might help | 04:09 |
| pleks | hold on, after doing "sudo apt-get update" it now detects the new dist version :D | 04:11 |
| pleks | awesome! | 04:11 |
| pleks | thanks guys! | 04:12 |
| frankbro | xfce4-xfapplet-plugin, where is that now? | 04:18 |
| xubuntu237 | hi | 05:15 |
| baizon | hi | 05:15 |
| xubuntu237 | Goodbye. I was going to chat, but my installation is finished. | 05:15 |
| cfhowlett | as Jar Jar Binks would say, "How wude!" | 05:16 |
| Dayofswords | anyone know what update-notifier-common does? I noticed it seems to hang the system during install of xubuntu for a while and but it's not touching disk, CPU or network. | 05:29 |
| ruien | Dayofswords: i can't tell you much, but here's `apt-cache search`'s description: """update-notifier-common - Files shared between update-notifier and other packages""", maybe install without updates and update after install? | 05:48 |
| === xubuntu458 is now known as unowin8 | ||
| unowin8 | hi i totally broke my system | 06:22 |
| MrHotsauce | how so? | 06:23 |
| unowin8 | after much trying to fix | 06:24 |
| unowin8 | i think its not only my grubs but also the video drivers for ubuntu on my win 8 machine | 06:24 |
| unowin8 | so I cant live boot at all | 06:24 |
| unowin8 | i did try checking the iso i even downloaded lubuntu after xubuntu | 06:25 |
| unowin8 | and it runs fine on this vista machine | 06:25 |
| unowin8 | both xubuntu when i had it and lubuntu now | 06:25 |
| MrHotsauce | windows 8 machine i think it might have something to do with UEFI bios | 06:25 |
| unowin8 | mm | 06:25 |
| unowin8 | well I'll try anything | 06:26 |
| unowin8 | you mean i should access the bios menu? | 06:26 |
| MrHotsauce | um i honestly dont know much about the whole uefi bios myself but if you wait in here someone might know more about it | 06:27 |
| alex_alex | hello2all! | 06:27 |
| ruien | unowin8: yeah, it could be related to UEFI, that's a big problem and i've heard there are solutions, but i have avoided newer systems myself in order to avoid that problem, sorry i don't know anything about it | 06:27 |
| unowin8 | ubuntu was running fine | 06:27 |
| unowin8 | but then i installed xubuntu on top of it from within ubuntu | 06:28 |
| alex_alex | after upgrading to 13.04 video thumbs disappeared | 06:28 |
| ruien | and then it died? | 06:28 |
| unowin8 | then tried replacing with just xubuntu and ended up messing up the settings | 06:28 |
| alex_alex | what is the matter | 06:28 |
| alex_alex | ? | 06:28 |
| unowin8 | ruien: I spoke to you earlier today | 06:28 |
| ruien | unowin8: yeah, i wonder if the real ubuntu has some way to handle UEFI, which the other ubuntu derivatives don't have. | 06:29 |
| unowin8 | ruien: that's one issue, the graphics issue. I still have the grub issue first. | 06:29 |
| cfhowlett | ruien, pretty sure all such installation measures are universal to all *buntus | 06:29 |
| unowin8 | ruien: startup throws me to grub rescue> | 06:30 |
| MrHotsauce | and you cant boot from a live usb? | 06:30 |
| ruien | unowin8: that doesn't sound that bad, maybe grub is just misconfigured? | 06:30 |
| MrHotsauce | if you can boot into a live usb maybe reinstall grum from there? | 06:31 |
| unowin8 | ruien: I think it is. I saw online a way to configure it through its own command line but I couldn't get that to work | 06:31 |
| MrHotsauce | ive never really had grub issues because i try not to dual boot | 06:31 |
| unowin8 | it involves setting up the right partition to start up | 06:31 |
| MrHotsauce | alex_alex: video thumbs? you mean just thumbnails in your file manager? | 06:32 |
| alex_alex | yes | 06:32 |
| alex_alex | pictures thums are ok | 06:32 |
| unowin8 | I get: error: no such partition, when I power the laptop | 06:32 |
| alex_alex | byt video gone | 06:32 |
| alex_alex | i tried to install tumber-plugins-extra and ffmpeghumbler but with no result | 06:33 |
| MrHotsauce | hm have you tried rebooting by chance? | 06:34 |
| * unowin8 slaps himself with a large trout | 06:34 | |
| alex_alex | yes, sure | 06:35 |
| MrHotsauce | my video thumbs still work so maybe thumber just died on you? | 06:36 |
| MrHotsauce | unowin8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI maybe? | 06:37 |
| alex_alex | so, how i can check it? just try to reinstall? | 06:37 |
| MrHotsauce | maybe ive never really had an issue with it myself | 06:38 |
| unowin8 | mrhotsauce: thanks | 06:38 |
| MrHotsauce | not sure if that helps at all | 06:39 |
| alex_alex | is any automatic way to reinable all ppas blocked while upgrading? | 06:40 |
| alex_alex | or only be hand? | 06:40 |
| alex_alex | by hand i mean | 06:40 |
| MrHotsauce | just go to software sorces | 06:40 |
| MrHotsauce | cources* | 06:40 |
| MrHotsauce | SOURCES*!!! | 06:41 |
| MrHotsauce | you should be able to re-enable them there | 06:41 |
| cfhowlett | torrets of the keyboard? | 06:41 |
| alex_alex | no, when i try to re-enable them there - nothing happens, i cant make a checkbox active | 06:43 |
| bazhang | so do it via the command line | 06:44 |
| alex_alex | so, i've opened list in leafpad and just deleted #, but that is not tje best solution i think | 06:44 |
| alex_alex | as ia have a lot of sources | 06:44 |
| bazhang | thats risky | 06:44 |
| bazhang | lots of PPA, have good backups | 06:45 |
| alex_alex | :) | 06:45 |
| bazhang | once they are re-enabled, don't forget to update your sources.list | 06:46 |
| alex_alex | ok. so, that is a bug in the sources manager or only i experienced such difficulties? | 06:47 |
| bazhang | did software sources ask for a password | 06:49 |
| alex_alex | yes | 06:49 |
| bazhang | and once that was done, you hit refresh, or from the terminal: sudo apt-get update | 06:50 |
| alex_alex | but after that still unable to select a check box | 06:50 |
| alex_alex | on disabled ppa | 06:51 |
| bazhang | do all the PPA have raring sources | 06:51 |
| alex_alex | yes | 06:51 |
| bazhang | and you found them via the command line where, exactly | 06:51 |
| alex_alex | on the launchpad | 06:52 |
| bazhang | you are using the gui and the cli to edit software sources | 06:52 |
| bazhang | when you should only use one or the other | 06:52 |
| alex_alex | mmm? | 06:53 |
| bazhang | "I opened them using leafpad...blah blah" | 06:53 |
| bazhang | but you also talk about "check boxes" | 06:53 |
| bazhang | ergo: gui AND cli | 06:54 |
| alex_alex | yes, to re-enable them (to delete #), as it was impossible through gui | 06:54 |
| bazhang | so pastebin and let us take a look, if you care to | 06:54 |
| alex_alex | my sources list, yes? | 06:55 |
| bazhang | sources.list.d ? | 06:55 |
| alex_alex | ok, just a second | 06:55 |
| alex_alex | i have many files there, how i can pastebin them all? | 06:58 |
| bazhang | how many is many | 06:59 |
| alex_alex | 53 | 06:59 |
| bazhang | jhc | 06:59 |
| ruien | how about: for file in *; do echo -e "-------\n$file\n\n" && cat $file; done | 07:04 |
| alex_alex | thats really works! | 07:06 |
| ruien | yeah then scroll up, select all of it, copy and paste the whole thing to pastebin :) | 07:07 |
| alex_alex | http://pastebin.com/VakB3XZk | 07:07 |
| ruien | alex: on some of these you still have quantal | 07:10 |
| alex_alex | yes, but it seems to be just in sources list names | 07:14 |
| alex_alex | only | 07:14 |
| alex_alex | deb strings are raring | 07:14 |
| alex_alex | so, as i got confused with it, i ask about the right way to re-enable ppas after upgrading | 07:15 |
| alex_alex | as i was unable to re-enable them using gui (cant set a checkbox on ppa) | 07:15 |
| bazhang | running the addppa would be the correct way | 07:17 |
| bazhang | !addppa | 07:17 |
| ubottu | Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command « sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details | 07:17 |
| alex_alex | so after upgrading i have to add all ppas manually? | 07:19 |
| bazhang | you have 53 PPA?? | 07:20 |
| ruien | alex: after upgrading, why not just back up your "sources.list.d" directory and then sed -i 's/quantal/raring/g' your stuff? | 07:20 |
| ruien | (assuming they have raring sources, of course) | 07:20 |
| bazhang | ruien, what about the gpg | 07:21 |
| ruien | hmm, i didn't realize the same PPA for a different release would have a new GPG key. Is that so? | 07:21 |
| ruien | i thought it's per-PPA | 07:21 |
| alex_alex | strange, as upgrade program have changed quantal string in them on raring but denyed from enabling them | 07:23 |
| bazhang | untrusted sources warnings? | 07:24 |
| alex_alex | no, just cant enable them in the gui with a checkbox | 07:25 |
| xubuntu334 | hi | 07:26 |
| bazhang | alex_alex, you manually checked each of the 53 PPA to be certain that there was a raring version, or just hoping thats so' | 07:29 |
| alex_alex | after i deleted the # and update/upgrade i saw only 4 warnings no raring | 07:31 |
| alex_alex | all others seems to be already updated | 07:32 |
| === jhe|away is now known as jhenke | ||
| kblin | hi folks | 09:03 |
| kblin | I've got trouble printing to an IPP printer from my newly installed 13.04 system | 09:06 |
| kblin | it's an IPP network printer, and my other systems can print just fine using the same settings | 09:07 |
| knome | Inoki, hey :) am i connecting the dots right - did you write that one magazine article? :) | 09:08 |
| Inoki | Heya, yep, I did. | 09:08 |
| knome | Inoki, good good! mind joining #xubuntu-devel for a while? | 09:08 |
| Inoki | Okies | 09:09 |
| knome | ta | 09:09 |
| kblin | the status looks a bit fishy, too it reads "Processing - Unable to get printer status." | 09:17 |
| kblin | I can correctly resolve the print server, and I can even view the print server's status page just fine | 09:19 |
| kblin | and as I said, from an ubuntu 10.04 machine I can print just fine | 09:19 |
| === NePtUnO|Off is now known as NePtUnO | ||
| xubuntu705 | Froze on me at configuring python. Now re-doing from downloaded CD. | 10:24 |
| nikolam | anyone have an idea, how to report a bug when automatic bug reporting crashes itself? (lsb_release problem in 12.04 LTS) | 10:44 |
| TheSheep | !bugs | 10:45 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 10:45 |
| xubuntu874 | ciao | 10:51 |
| calinut | hi | 10:51 |
| nikolam | well, my experience with several years with LTS releases is that most userspace non-security bugs never get fixed utill next LTS release. | 10:54 |
| nikolam | i will definately report. thanks. | 10:54 |
| nikolam | wll I just had some updates on 12.4 and I am sort of reportin 13-th bug report that pops-up automatically. And I think I actually have that error reporting every single day since 12.04 install. Such fun. | 10:59 |
| xub | I'm getting crashes on 12.04 from AbiWord, Chromium and possibly others: "org.freedesktop.dbus.error.serviceunknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" | 11:02 |
| xub | Any clues? | 11:03 |
| TheSheep | xub: how did you start X? | 11:05 |
| xub | Automatically, as setup by the installer | 11:06 |
| TheSheep | bug 1044333 | 11:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1044333 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files " [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044333 | 11:09 |
| TheSheep | xub: looks like that message is just a warning and not the reason for the crash | 11:11 |
| xub | TheSheep: why do you think so? | 11:14 |
| TheSheep | xub: becuase a lot of people have reported this message in a lot of completely unrelated reports | 11:17 |
| TheSheep | xub: and the solution to their problems was always something else | 11:17 |
| TheSheep | of course that's not a proof, just a clue | 11:17 |
| TheSheep | xub: I just checked and I have this warning in my logs too | 11:18 |
| xub | hm, it makes sense. | 11:18 |
| xub | TheSheep: in fact, the /var/crash logs report different messages. thakns for your time | 11:25 |
| kRush | why does 'sudo echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile' fail with a permission denied, but editing the file with a sudo'ed emacs works? | 13:47 |
| kRush | is the redirection not elevated somehow? | 13:48 |
| doflow | sudo sh -c 'echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile' | 13:51 |
| kRush | ok | 13:56 |
| aiena | Is it possible to prevet the desktop screen from fading into blackness (temporarily untill say you move the mouse) while watching a movie in xubuntu ? | 14:35 |
| doflow | use vlc. It takes care off that | 14:36 |
| aiena | hmm flash in a browser | 14:38 |
| aiena | I have vlc | 14:38 |
| aiena | I use it on windows too. | 14:39 |
| GridCube | disable the fading in the power settings | 14:39 |
| kRush | flash doesn't send the signal to inhibit power savings like it does on win, there are some hackish workarounds on google. adobe should just fix their shit imho | 14:43 |
| aiena | thanks GridCube | 14:43 |
| aiena | kRush: that explains it | 14:43 |
| aiena | thanks for the info | 14:43 |
| andrii | Hi all , guys need help - I can install skype but can't run it, all times get crush reports | 15:20 |
| siriusly | andrii: are you using 64bit? | 15:22 |
| andrii | 32 | 15:22 |
| siriusly | segfault? | 15:22 |
| siriusly | or are you using nvidia or AMD graphics drivers? | 15:23 |
| andrii | one sec please | 15:23 |
| andrii | NVIDIA as I can see | 15:24 |
| andrii | does it might be a reason ? | 15:24 |
| siriusly | If so, follow the instructions in this link: | 15:25 |
| siriusly | http://is.gd/CPF0uP | 15:25 |
| andrii | thanks ! will let you know soon | 15:26 |
| siriusly | yw :) | 15:26 |
| andrii | MAGIC :) | 15:29 |
| andrii | thanks a lot !! | 15:29 |
| siriusly | andrii: cool :) | 15:30 |
| andrii | I have no idea what does this variable mean "LD_PRELOAD" - but it's working | 15:31 |
| andrii | :) | 15:31 |
| andrii | thanks again and have a good day ! | 15:32 |
| aiena | GridCube: Is it possible to make xubuntu mount my 2 other NTFS hard drive partitions on startup which are not mounted by default ? | 15:56 |
| aiena | andril LD_PRELOAD loads the item specified before anything else. Its like just saying load this first then open xxx | 15:57 |
| GridCube | !fstab | aiena | 15:58 |
| ubottu | aiena: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 15:58 |
| aiena | GridCube mount point is fstab is optional right if you want it to remain default ? | 16:05 |
| GridCube | aiena, you choose your mount points to what ever you want, you just need that the mount directory exists | 16:06 |
| aiena | ok so I have to specify /media/xxx if I want it to remain there | 16:07 |
| aiena | or do i have to use full paths | 16:07 |
| aiena | hmm thats a full path sorry | 16:08 |
| elfy | to the mount point? | 16:08 |
| elfy | if so - yes | 16:08 |
| aiena | elfy: is there a difference between gksu and gksudo ? | 16:08 |
| GridCube | aiena, full paths, make sure to mkdir the xxx dir | 16:09 |
| GridCube | no | 16:09 |
| GridCube | theres no difference | 16:09 |
| aiena | GridCube: media already exist | 16:09 |
| elfy | aiena: I prefer to use UUID as well | 16:09 |
| GridCube | aiena, yes, it exists | 16:09 |
| aiena | when I mount a parition via thunar | 16:09 |
| aiena | the folders gets poluated in it | 16:09 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:09 |
| aiena | *populated | 16:09 |
| GridCube | but the xxx dir gets created by the gvfs thingy | 16:09 |
| elfy | aiena: I mount in /mnt - example UUID=14ee47cc-54cb-4887-8773-fd53121efe10 /mnt/music ext4 defaults 0 2 | 16:10 |
| aiena | ok so /mnt is a better place | 16:10 |
| GridCube | no | 16:10 |
| GridCube | its the same | 16:10 |
| aiena | so i can specifiy .mnt/drive_name after making the directories there | 16:10 |
| elfy | it used to be that /media always showed on desktops and /mnt didn't | 16:10 |
| aiena | ok | 16:11 |
| GridCube | i like to mount to ~/Documents | 16:11 |
| GridCube | P: | 16:11 |
| GridCube | given that im the only user i dont care if others dont see the partition | 16:11 |
| aiena | one sec now this is crazy. .media gets populated only when the dirves are mounted i.e. the directories in it are created dynamically | 16:11 |
| aiena | */media | 16:12 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:12 |
| GridCube | thats why i told you to create the folder | 16:12 |
| aiena | so doe this mean in fstab i use only /media | 16:12 |
| aiena | for mount point | 16:12 |
| GridCube | no that would mount to media | 16:12 |
| aiena | so then i create the directories in /mnt | 16:12 |
| GridCube | and the mountpoint will be /media not /media/blahblahblah | 16:12 |
| aiena | ouch | 16:12 |
| GridCube | aiena, its the same wherever you create | 16:12 |
| GridCube | you just need to point to an existant directory | 16:13 |
| aiena | so I create permanent directories in /media first | 16:13 |
| aiena | and then point to those | 16:13 |
| GridCube | exactly | 16:13 |
| aiena | Ok | 16:13 |
| aiena | thanks | 16:13 |
| aiena | and what you are saying is /mnt and /media mirror each other at all times | 16:13 |
| GridCube | no | 16:14 |
| GridCube | by no reason whatsoever | 16:14 |
| aiena | ok | 16:14 |
| aiena | I cant create permanent folders in /media | 16:14 |
| GridCube | i say that its the same wherever you choose to mount the partition, be it /media or /mnt or /newdisk or /mymounts | 16:14 |
| aiena | do I need to do it with sudo in terminal | 16:14 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:14 |
| aiena | thanks | 16:15 |
| GridCube | some dirs are special tho, dont put a mount in /tmp XD | 16:15 |
| aiena | I know | 16:19 |
| aiena | that would dissapear | 16:19 |
| aiena | the next time I boot | 16:19 |
| aiena | dangerous | 16:19 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:21 |
| GridCube | bad idea | 16:21 |
| aiena | GridCube: for device you can specify either one right so specifying the UUID is enough right ? | 16:23 |
| elfy | I've never had a problem using uuid | 16:24 |
| GridCube | using the uuid its "safer" because it doesnt matter the order the devised are detected | 16:24 |
| aiena | thanks | 16:24 |
| aiena | I am using UUID alone for device thats ok right ? | 16:24 |
| GridCube | if you unplug a device and plugit back again in any other sata port it will mount correctly if you use their uuid, not so good if you use paths | 16:24 |
| * aiena nods | 16:25 | |
| aiena | GridCube: for options in fstab specifying "auto" will ensure it loads at boot right ? | 16:25 |
| aiena | does fstab remove the drives from /media after that ? | 16:26 |
| GridCube | if you reboot, yes | 16:26 |
| GridCube | i use auto, i dont really know what goes inside fstab so i let the system decide | 16:27 |
| aiena | :) | 16:30 |
| aiena | the root and swap seem to be added already by UUID by default | 16:31 |
| aiena | so its a good reference | 16:31 |
| aiena | ok rebooting with good luck it should work :) | 16:35 |
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| ddsss | so - when I press Ctrl+Fn buttons - I jump to that virtual desktop. Can I disable that key combination? | 18:38 |
| TheSheep | ddsss: yes, which version of xubuntu? | 18:43 |
| ddsss | 13.04 | 18:43 |
| TheSheep | ddsss: no, wait, it's not ctrl+fx, it's shift+ctrl+fx | 18:43 |
| TheSheep | ddsss: ctrl+fx only works in text console | 18:44 |
| ddsss | TheSheep, I know about Ctrl+Alt+Fn - that's not the one I'm asking about | 18:44 |
| ddsss | my problem is with Ctrl+Fn | 18:44 |
| lderan | my wifi cut out there ddsss did you get my response? | 18:44 |
| TheSheep | ddsss: in the terminal emulator? | 18:44 |
| ddsss | Ctrl+Fn makes me jump to that virtual desktop.... | 18:45 |
| TheSheep | ah | 18:45 |
| ddsss | TheSheep, in xubuntu desktop | 18:45 |
| TheSheep | ok, settings manager -> window manager -> keyboard | 18:45 |
| TheSheep | then unbind the bindings for Workspace 1, etc. | 18:46 |
| ddsss | TheSheep, ha. didn't see that one. thanks | 18:46 |
| nantou | hi | 18:55 |
| nantou | i upgraded to 13.04 and now my graphics are all f**ked up | 18:55 |
| nantou | its like resolution has been divided by 4 | 18:55 |
| nantou | everythings is much bigger now (icons, text) | 18:55 |
| nantou | tips? | 18:56 |
| recon_lap | dont know, sounds like a messed up xorg.conf or somthing | 19:00 |
| recon_lap | nantou: where you using a property driver ? | 19:01 |
| nantou | yes | 19:01 |
| recon_lap | nantou: don't think upgrades like property video drivers. maybe try reinstalling it | 19:03 |
| recon_lap | nantou: the driver i mean | 19:03 |
| xubuntu444 | hi | 19:11 |
| ravster | hey all | 19:29 |
| ravster | once the torrent for the installation is done, I can just "dd" it onto my USB-stick, right? | 19:29 |
| lderan | ravster, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick | 19:30 |
| lderan | a handy guide :) | 19:30 |
| ravster | lderan: very cool, thank you. | 19:32 |
| lderan | ravster, no problem | 19:33 |
| llldino | Hey guys, anyone else having issues with suspending to ram in 13.04? | 20:00 |
| lderan | llldino, what issues are you getting? | 20:09 |
| llldino | I suspend, and when I try to reenable I get a blank screen | 20:11 |
| llldino | Processors are still running, I have to manually kill | 20:12 |
| llldino | Could be related to the weird boots i'm getting too | 20:12 |
| llldino | Hey guys, anyone else having issues with suspending to ram in 13.04? | 20:40 |
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| Guest7864 | I am running a shitty little Acer netbook. I'm looking for a very light OS that can just take care of the basics. I want to be able to fill out job applications and print stuff out. | 20:52 |
| Guest7864 | I heard Xubuntu was very light and easy to use. Is this true? Or should I go for a different linux OS? | 20:52 |
| knome | Guest7864, please consider your language as this is a family-friendly channel | 20:54 |
| knome | Guest7864, what's your system specifications? | 20:54 |
| Guest7864 | Running an Intel Celeron, don't know the exact processor speed. | 20:56 |
| knome | how much ram? | 20:56 |
| Guest7864 | 4 GB of RAM, Intel integrated graphics, 320 HDD | 20:56 |
| knome | xubuntu should be fine on that machine | 20:57 |
| elfy | I'm sure it will be fine - I run xubuntu on an old laptop with little ram at all | 20:57 |
| Guest7864 | Awesome, thanks guys. | 20:57 |
| David-A | Guest7864: that seems to be plenty. xubuntu runs reasonable well on an eeepc with atom cpu and 1gb ram | 20:57 |
| Guest7864 | One more question. Is it an "RPM" based os? My printer driver says that... | 20:57 |
| MrHotsauce | its .deb bases | 20:58 |
| MrHotsauce | based* | 20:58 |
| Guest7864 | I see | 20:58 |
| Guest7864 | Alright, thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated. | 20:58 |
| Guest7864 | Cheers | 20:58 |
| idodeisuke | I updated to 13.04 recently, all went smoothly, except that the desktop went gray ;( What to do? | 21:11 |
| David-A | idodeisuke: grayish like a gray xfce theme, that you lost a favourit background image, or unexpectedly bug-strucken grey? are panels, menus, etc okay? | 21:17 |
| idodeisuke | David-A, bugstrucken. After the start-up, all opened windows leave a gray track on the desktop. But except that, all works fine (panel, menu, etc), except, on an unrelated note, scite lost it's settings. | 21:21 |
| David-A | idodeisuke: I don't recall what it could be. Do you mind if I lead you thru procedures that might or might not help? | 21:25 |
| David-A | idodeisuke: e.g. does it behaves the same if you login as another user? (create a new user first, if you have only one) | 21:26 |
| idodeisuke | David-A, Nope, loggin in as another user doesn't help, either ;( Desktop won't work there, too ;( | 21:31 |
| Unit193 | Are you using open source graphics, or closed? | 21:32 |
| idodeisuke | Closed, I think. I did have some problems with my stupid hybrid graphic card, but I forgot, how I solved it. | 21:50 |
| andreligne | Yo guys! I would like to swap my Alt keys! Any ideas? | 22:02 |
| xubuntu757 | I need paint by numbers instructions to make a cd boot for Xubuntu, anyone point me in the right directions? | 22:05 |
| xubuntu757 | I have w8 os and I don't like it so much. I want to try Xubuntu from the cd before I wipe out the w8 os... | 22:07 |
| TDO|Aquina | hy | 22:10 |
| TDO|Aquina | I have a question about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/MultipleMonitors | 22:10 |
| TDO|Aquina | Specification for Multi-Monitor Use-cases in Xubuntu: Boot Process | 22:10 |
| TDO|Aquina | Quote: "Since this scenario is impossible to detect but a user-choice it could be made an option." | 22:11 |
| TDO|Aquina | Exacltly both screen show displaced boot screen when the notebook is in the docking station. | 22:11 |
| TDO|Aquina | Is there a way to force to show the bootscreen on the primaty display only? | 22:11 |
| TDO|Aquina | Is there a way to disable the second screen until i activate it within the Xfce display settings explicitly? | 22:17 |
| scrak | salve a tutti | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | !it | scrak | 23:03 |
| ubottu | scrak: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 23:03 |
| xubuntu243 | bonsoir | 23:54 |
| xubuntu243 | Est-ce le bon edroit pour trouver l'âme soeur ? | 23:55 |
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| xubuntu243 | gry me plz | 23:57 |
| xubuntu243 | wanna feel your heavy tool | 23:58 |
| xubuntu243 | make me feel like tool | 23:58 |
| xubuntu243 | in da swimming pool | 23:58 |
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