[00:22] <jdf80> anyone having issues with archive manager crashing in 13.04?
[00:25] <Guest37968> hi guys i'm trying the live session xubuntu.. did you had any problems installing xubuntu alongside win8?
[00:27] <w30> I'm trying to configure compiz with ccsm but the settings won't survive a re-login. What needs to be done to keep xubuntu from re-dooing my settingsz/
[00:29] <w30> I want cube and rotate cube for one thing but wall and expo keep coming back.
[00:41] <w30> I'm trying to configure compiz with ccsm but the settings won't survive a re-login. What needs to be done to keep xubuntu from ripping out my settings ?
[00:48] <ball> I didn't know compiz could be used with Xubuntu
[00:48] <ball> ...not that it was ever really on my wish list.
[00:50] <ball> Is it just for whirling the desktop around?
[00:50] <w30> I guess Linus liked his wobbly windows and I like the whirling cube.....
[00:51] <w30> ball,  the 4 cube sides each represent a desktop
[00:51] <w30> ball, if you don't like one side you can pick another.
[00:52] <ball> So it's just a resource-intensive way to do virtual desktops?
[00:53] <w30> ball, it's mostly a way to impress Vista users and their fanning windows or whatever they had
[00:53] <kRush> a cube with 4 sides? does not compute
[00:54] <ball> My life would be insanely sad if I were worried about impressing Windows Vista users.
[00:54] <w30> kRush,  the top and bottom have a picture or a transparency
[00:55] <kRush> why not another virtual desktop?
[00:56] <ball> flower pots, that's what it needs.
[00:56] <w30> kRush, why not!  hy not use Unity, Fedora, or Windows 8?
[00:56] <w30> hy/why
[00:57]  * ball tinkers with LibreOffice
[00:58] <ball> brb
[01:02] <kRush> because two of the three are pretty retarded =o
[01:14] <ball> Does Xubuntu come with something that can decode base64 attachments from the command line?
[01:14] <ball> (a modern equivalent of uudecode)?
[01:15] <ball> Ah man base64 contained a clue ;-)
[01:16] <ball> It works!
[01:24] <David-A> ball: maybe you already know about   man -k <word>   and    apropos <word>
[01:24] <zodiak> man -k woman .. for example
[01:25] <ball> No idea what -k does, but I use "man foo" etc.
[01:26] <David-A> ball: man <word> looks for help for a command named exactly <word>, with -k it search for keywords
[01:26] <David-A> ball: including parts of words (fortunately and sometimes unfortunately)
[01:27] <MrHotsauce> is there anyway to reset the sound indicator in the panel? mines locked up and i can control volume from it
[01:32] <UserAttack> Hello all. How do I update? I am not seeing anything in Software Updater
[01:34] <MrHotsauce> UserAttack: do "sudo do-release-upgrade" in terminal
[01:34] <UserAttack> Thanks :)
[01:34] <MrHotsauce> mhm
[01:35] <xubuntu874> has anyone setup xubuntu 13.04 with touch screen.. such as how ubuntu works?
[01:36] <xubuntu874> multitouch, gestures.. etc
[01:40] <xubuntu874> I don't need to know how to do it.. just if it's doable..
[01:42] <ball> Oh, is that why Unity is a bit odd?  Is it meant for touch screens?
[01:42] <w30> MrHotsauce, check your sound devices, maybe one output or input device got switched to the wrong one.
[01:43] <w30> MrHotsauce, click on the sound icon and then settings
[01:43] <xubuntu874> I guess.. but I'm not a unity fan.. I'd rather give xubuntu a spin. but would like to know if it's a pain to setup gestures.. etc
[01:43] <MrHotsauce> its not that its literally frozen spotify still says its playing a song when ive closed it a while ago
[01:44] <w30> MrHotsauce, kill the process?
[01:45] <MrHotsauce> i killed spotify unless you mean kill the panel
[01:45] <ball> I've never tries Xubuntu on a touch screen.  I think one of the reasons I like Xfce is that it's a more conventional desktop, suitable for office use.
[01:46] <xubuntu874> I'd agree with that.. I've always used opensuse and kde.. but thought I'd give xubuntu a try on the yoga 13
[01:46] <w30> MrHotsauce, reboot?
[01:47] <MrHotsauce> that works but id like to know if i can fix it without doing that
[01:47] <MrHotsauce> its happened once before
[01:47] <w30> MrHotsauce, donno... sorry
[01:50] <w30> MrHotsauce, sound dosen't get any better in Linux, just more complicated.
[01:51] <MrHotsauce> well ive been on 13.04 for a month using daily builds but as soon as it released the other day i got the sound panel error
[01:51] <w30> MrHotsauce, when you have a 15 or 20 digit name for a sound device, What can you expect?
[01:54] <w30> MrHotsauce, like pci-0000:1:00.1  what the hell do we need that for?
[02:03] <MrHotsauce> also anyone have any idea why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/XJCFhnMM
[02:03] <holstein> MrHotsauce: what is happening?
[02:04] <MrHotsauce> saying update is available yet im already updated
[02:04] <w30> MrHotsauce, I have a bad habit of hitting the scroll wheel when I have the mouse in focus in a config window and sometimes I select the next device or config option of some kind without knowing it. I keep learning not to nervously scroll the wheel but alas I still do it sometimes.
[02:04] <holstein> MrHotsauce: are you fully upgraed?
[02:04] <MrHotsauce> pretty sure i am
[02:04] <MrHotsauce> i cant do another update
[02:04] <holstein> MrHotsauce: sudo apt-get update .. see if you have any errors.. then, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ..if you want
[02:05] <MrHotsauce> w30 its not a device issue ive only one sound device
[02:05] <MrHotsauce> holstein: nothing 0 updates
[02:06] <MrHotsauce> ****@*******~$ sudo do-release-upgrade  Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found   <--and thats when i try to do the release upgrade
[02:11] <w30> holstein, how do I get ccsm to write  a config  and make it stick. I loose  it because xubuntu throws it away and puts its own back in or a relogin.
[02:12] <holstein> MrHotsauce: i wouldnt worry about it unless there is an isssue
[02:13] <w30> holstein, I want cube and rotate cube not expo and wall
[02:13] <MrHotsauce> no issue just irks me why it says i need to update is all
[02:13] <holstein> w30: not sure.. i didnt have the trouble back in 12.04, and i personally gave up on compiz
[02:17] <w30> holstein, I am going to follow suit I suppose, I fight it every upgrade and it gets worse.  My Grandpa wouldn't give up his horses for a Ford Tractor either so it's in my genes.
[02:20] <holstein> w30: its over.. cubes and fire.. however, 12.04 is supported for quite some time..
[02:24] <w30> holstein, I suppose its hard to get someone to maintain a project when you have a possible user base of two or $1.98 worth of sales.
[02:29] <holstein> w30: compiz is just going a different direction..
[03:27] <mrdolt> hey, i have updated from 12.10 to 13.04. Now my system hangs before the login screen. I can't break out to a command prompt and pressing escape at sstartup i don't get a bootmenu
[03:27] <unowindows8> hello.  I broke my grub
[03:29] <ruien> mrdolt: am I correct in thinking this means the issue is after grub? Meaning, your grub is working OK and tries to load xubuntu, at which point it freezes?
[03:30] <unowindows8> i cant start up at all
[03:30] <unowindows8> cannot even live boot to fix with boot fixer
[03:30] <unowindows8> also tried commands in grub rescue>
[03:30] <mrdolt> i get the xubuntu splash screen and a spining thing but then it stops
[03:30] <mrdolt> if i press escape i can watch things load but then it conks out
[03:31] <unowindows8> sorry didnt realize you were talking to mrdolt
[03:31] <ruien> unowindows8: if you boot from the 13.04 live USB, it doesn't even load?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> unowindows8, reinstall grub
[03:31] <Dayofswords> anyone know what update-notifier-common does? I noticed it seems to hang the system during install of xubuntu for a while and but it's not touching disk, CPU or network.
[03:31] <unowindows8> ruien, thanks.  live usb menu comes up completely distorted is unusable.  i try running xubuntu by pressing enter, video is completely distorted
[03:31] <ruien> mrdolt: try loading with ACPI=off, i once had a similar problem, just to see if that works
[03:32] <unowindows8> ruien: can install grub without live booting?
[03:32] <ruien> unowindows8: wow. how did you create the live USB? Have you tried using unetbootin?
[03:32] <unowindows8> ruien: I did use it.  I tested it on another machine, my Toshiba laptop, it opened fine
[03:32] <ruien> no, i would recommend making sure you can boot from the live USB, and then once that is working, use that to reinstall grub. That's how I would do it
[03:33] <mrdolt> ok, but the worse problem is grub doesn't respond to my attempt to bring up the menu. it just goes to the boot
[03:34] <holstein> mrdolt: you hould be able to get to it from a live CD and edit
[03:34] <ruien> mrdolt: yeah, you can make that change within your grub conf, so i would say boot to a live USB first, then re-install grub with the acpi off set
[03:34] <mrdolt> awesome, thx!
[03:34] <ruien> mrdolt: hold on a sec, i have more info
[03:34] <mrdolt> ok
[03:36] <cfhowlett> unowindows8, 2 suggestions: md5sum your ISO and check disk disk integrity of your USB.
[03:36] <unowindows8> got it
[03:36] <unowindows8> I've seen that around
[03:37] <ruien> mrdolt: okay, i believe the right way to do this is in /etc/default/grub set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=off quiet splash"
[03:37] <unowindows8> but could my usb still not have full integrity even if it loads well on a different laptop?
[03:37] <ruien> unowindows8: yes, it could happen, since different machines load different drivers, so one machine might be not hitting the corrupted file at all
[03:38] <cfhowlett> unowindows8, this is why you CHECK integrity of both the ISO and the usb ...
[03:38] <cfhowlett> unowindows8, 60 seconds of work to eliminate any doubt
[03:39] <unowindows8> the iso that went into the USB cant be accessed because I had downloaded to same Windows 8 machine with grub problem
[03:39] <unowindows8> but I will check the USB stick on my 2nd machine
[03:39] <ruien> that should work
[03:40] <unowindows8> ruien: thanks
[03:40] <unowindows8> I'll be back later
[03:40] <ruien> k
[03:44] <lighta> hi guys, I just installed lubuntu 13.04 but my old firefox profil keep make me crash, any idea ?
[03:56] <holstein> lighta: your old FF .mozilla config?
[04:00] <pleks> Hi,I'm trying to dist upgrade from xubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, the problem is I clicked on the upgrade button in the Software Updater and clicked through to the screen where it says it will download x packages, it's 900mb it will take 20min and so on. At this stage I had to move my laptop so I clicked the cancel button instead of starting the download. But the problem now is that the Software Updates says I'm up to date so I can not cont
[04:00] <pleks> tried google but did not find anything
[04:00] <holstein> pleks: i would just try to do it from the command line
[04:01] <pleks> I have
[04:01] <holstein> pleks: and?
[04:01] <MrHotsauce> pleks: have you tried "sudo do-release-upgrade" in command line?
[04:01] <pleks> using do-release-upgrade -d
[04:01] <MrHotsauce> hm
[04:01] <pleks> it says im up to date
[04:02] <MrHotsauce> i think you can use a bootable usb of the 13.04 image and upgrade that way
[04:02] <pleks> so it must be marked somewhere I guess that I have already upgraded even though I have not
[04:02] <Wally> there's a 13.04?
[04:02] <holstein> pleks: sounds like you are upgraded
[04:02] <pleks> ok, I can try that
[04:02] <Wally> BLAH
[04:02] <pleks> I am not upgraded, I aborted before downloading
[04:03] <MrHotsauce> what does lsb_release -a in command line turn up?
[04:03] <pleks> is says 12.10
[04:03] <MrHotsauce> hrm
[04:03] <pleks> and "No LSB modules are available."
[04:04] <pleks> very strange
[04:04] <MrHotsauce> ive a computer that says im running 13.04 and that i need to update to 13.04
[04:04] <holstein> sudo do-release-upgrade -d says what pleks ?
[04:05] <pleks> it says "No new release found"
[04:06] <holstein> pleks: sudo apt-get upda returns no errors?
[04:07] <pleks> no errors
[04:08] <holstein> pleks: i would try other package managers
[04:09] <holstein> i would also fresh install pretty quick, since that takes the least amount of time
[04:09] <holstein> pleks: http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/rescuing-an-interrupted-ubuntu-upgrade/ might help
[04:11] <pleks> hold on, after doing "sudo apt-get update" it now detects the new dist version :D
[04:11] <pleks> awesome!
[04:12] <pleks> thanks guys!
[04:18] <frankbro> xfce4-xfapplet-plugin, where is that now?
[05:15] <xubuntu237> hi
[05:15] <baizon> hi
[05:15] <xubuntu237> Goodbye. I was going to chat, but my installation is finished.
[05:16] <cfhowlett> as Jar Jar Binks would say, "How wude!"
[05:29] <Dayofswords> anyone know what update-notifier-common does? I noticed it seems to hang the system during install of xubuntu for a while and but it's not touching disk, CPU or network.
[05:48] <ruien> Dayofswords: i can't tell you much, but here's `apt-cache search`'s description: """update-notifier-common - Files shared between update-notifier and other packages""", maybe install without updates and update after install?
[06:22] <unowin8> hi i totally broke my system
[06:23] <MrHotsauce> how so?
[06:24] <unowin8> after much trying to fix
[06:24] <unowin8> i think its not only my grubs but also the video drivers for ubuntu on my win 8 machine
[06:24] <unowin8> so I cant live boot at all
[06:25] <unowin8> i did try checking the iso i even downloaded lubuntu after xubuntu
[06:25] <unowin8> and it runs fine on this vista machine
[06:25] <unowin8> both xubuntu when i had it and lubuntu now
[06:25] <MrHotsauce> windows 8 machine i think it might have something to do with UEFI bios
[06:25] <unowin8> mm
[06:26] <unowin8> well I'll try anything
[06:26] <unowin8> you mean i should access the bios menu?
[06:27] <MrHotsauce> um i honestly dont know much about the whole uefi bios myself but if you wait in here someone might know more about it
[06:27] <alex_alex> hello2all!
[06:27] <ruien> unowin8: yeah, it could be related to UEFI, that's a big problem and i've heard there are solutions, but i have avoided newer systems myself in order to avoid that problem, sorry i don't know anything about it
[06:27] <unowin8> ubuntu was running fine
[06:28] <unowin8> but then i installed xubuntu on top of it from within ubuntu
[06:28] <alex_alex> after upgrading to 13.04 video thumbs disappeared
[06:28] <ruien> and then it died?
[06:28] <unowin8> then tried replacing with just xubuntu and ended up messing up the settings
[06:28] <alex_alex> what is the matter
[06:28] <alex_alex> ?
[06:28] <unowin8> ruien: I spoke to you earlier today
[06:29] <ruien> unowin8: yeah, i wonder if the real ubuntu has some way to handle UEFI, which the other ubuntu derivatives don't have.
[06:29] <unowin8> ruien: that's one issue, the graphics issue.  I still have the grub issue first.
[06:29] <cfhowlett> ruien, pretty sure all such installation measures are universal to all *buntus
[06:30] <unowin8> ruien: startup throws me to grub rescue>
[06:30] <MrHotsauce> and you cant boot from a live usb?
[06:30] <ruien> unowin8: that doesn't sound that bad, maybe grub is just misconfigured?
[06:31] <MrHotsauce> if you can boot into a live usb maybe reinstall grum from there?
[06:31] <unowin8> ruien: I think it is.  I saw online a way to configure it through its own command line but I couldn't get that to work
[06:31] <MrHotsauce> ive never really had grub issues because i try not to dual boot
[06:31] <unowin8> it involves setting up the right partition to start up
[06:32] <MrHotsauce> alex_alex: video thumbs? you mean just thumbnails in your file manager?
[06:32] <alex_alex> yes
[06:32] <alex_alex> pictures thums are ok
[06:32] <unowin8> I get: error: no such partition, when I power the laptop
[06:32] <alex_alex> byt video gone
[06:33] <alex_alex> i tried to install tumber-plugins-extra and ffmpeghumbler but with no result
[06:34] <MrHotsauce> hm have you tried rebooting by chance?
[06:34]  * unowin8 slaps himself with a large trout
[06:35] <alex_alex> yes, sure
[06:36] <MrHotsauce> my video thumbs still work so maybe thumber just died on you?
[06:37] <MrHotsauce> unowin8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI maybe?
[06:37] <alex_alex> so, how i can check it? just try to reinstall?
[06:38] <MrHotsauce> maybe ive never really had an issue with it myself
[06:38] <unowin8> mrhotsauce: thanks
[06:39] <MrHotsauce> not sure if that helps at all
[06:40] <alex_alex> is any automatic way to reinable all ppas blocked while upgrading?
[06:40] <alex_alex> or only be hand?
[06:40] <alex_alex> by hand i mean
[06:40] <MrHotsauce> just go to software sorces
[06:40] <MrHotsauce> cources*
[06:41] <MrHotsauce> SOURCES*!!!
[06:41] <MrHotsauce> you should be able to re-enable them there
[06:41] <cfhowlett> torrets of the keyboard?
[06:43] <alex_alex> no, when i try to re-enable them there - nothing happens, i cant make a checkbox active
[06:44] <bazhang> so do it via the command line
[06:44] <alex_alex> so, i've opened list in leafpad and just deleted #, but that is not tje best solution i think
[06:44] <alex_alex> as ia have a lot of sources
[06:44] <bazhang> thats risky
[06:45] <bazhang> lots of PPA, have good backups
[06:45] <alex_alex> :)
[06:46] <bazhang> once they are re-enabled, don't forget to update your sources.list
[06:47] <alex_alex> ok. so, that is a bug in the sources manager or only i experienced such difficulties?
[06:49] <bazhang> did software sources ask for a password
[06:49] <alex_alex> yes
[06:50] <bazhang> and once that was done, you hit refresh, or from the terminal: sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <alex_alex> but after that still unable to select a check box
[06:51] <alex_alex> on disabled ppa
[06:51] <bazhang> do all the PPA have raring sources
[06:51] <alex_alex> yes
[06:51] <bazhang> and you found them via the command line where, exactly
[06:52] <alex_alex> on the launchpad
[06:52] <bazhang> you are using the gui and the cli to edit software sources
[06:52] <bazhang> when you should only use one or the other
[06:53] <alex_alex> mmm?
[06:53] <bazhang> "I opened them using leafpad...blah blah"
[06:53] <bazhang> but you also talk about "check boxes"
[06:54] <bazhang> ergo: gui AND cli
[06:54] <alex_alex> yes, to re-enable them (to delete #), as it was impossible through gui
[06:54] <bazhang> so pastebin and let us take a look, if you care to
[06:55] <alex_alex> my sources list, yes?
[06:55] <bazhang> sources.list.d   ?
[06:55] <alex_alex> ok, just a second
[06:58] <alex_alex> i have many files there, how i can pastebin them all?
[06:59] <bazhang> how many is many
[06:59] <alex_alex> 53
[06:59] <bazhang> jhc
[07:04] <ruien> how about: for file in *; do echo -e "-------\n$file\n\n" && cat $file; done
[07:06] <alex_alex> thats really works!
[07:07] <ruien> yeah then scroll up, select all of it, copy and paste the whole thing to pastebin :)
[07:07] <alex_alex> http://pastebin.com/VakB3XZk
[07:10] <ruien> alex: on some of these you still have quantal
[07:14] <alex_alex> yes, but it seems to be just in sources list names
[07:14] <alex_alex> only
[07:14] <alex_alex> deb strings are raring
[07:15] <alex_alex> so, as i got confused with it, i ask about the right way to re-enable  ppas after upgrading
[07:15] <alex_alex> as i was unable to re-enable them using gui (cant set a checkbox on ppa)
[07:17] <bazhang> running the addppa would be the correct way
[07:17] <bazhang> !addppa
[07:19] <alex_alex> so after upgrading  i have to add all ppas manually?
[07:20] <bazhang> you have 53 PPA??
[07:20] <ruien> alex: after upgrading, why not just back up your "sources.list.d" directory and then sed -i 's/quantal/raring/g' your stuff?
[07:20] <ruien> (assuming they have raring sources, of course)
[07:21] <bazhang> ruien, what about the gpg
[07:21] <ruien> hmm, i didn't realize the same PPA for a different release would have a new GPG key. Is that so?
[07:21] <ruien> i thought it's per-PPA
[07:23] <alex_alex> strange, as upgrade  program have changed quantal string in them on raring but denyed from enabling them
[07:24] <bazhang> untrusted sources warnings?
[07:25] <alex_alex>  no, just cant enable them in the gui with a checkbox
[07:26] <xubuntu334> hi
[07:29] <bazhang> alex_alex, you manually checked each of the 53 PPA to be certain that there was a raring version, or just hoping thats so'
[07:31] <alex_alex> after i deleted the # and update/upgrade i saw only 4 warnings  no raring
[07:32] <alex_alex> all others seems to be already updated
[09:03] <kblin> hi folks
[09:06] <kblin> I've got trouble printing to an IPP printer from my newly installed 13.04 system
[09:07] <kblin> it's an IPP  network printer, and my other systems can print just fine using the same settings
[09:08] <knome> Inoki, hey :) am i connecting the dots right - did you write that one magazine article? :)
[09:08] <Inoki> Heya, yep, I did.
[09:08] <knome> Inoki, good good! mind joining #xubuntu-devel for a while?
[09:09] <Inoki> Okies
[09:09] <knome> ta
[09:17] <kblin> the status looks a bit fishy, too it reads "Processing - Unable to get printer status."
[09:19] <kblin> I can correctly resolve the print server, and I can even view the print server's status page just fine
[09:19] <kblin> and as I said, from an ubuntu 10.04 machine I can print just fine
[10:24] <xubuntu705> Froze on me at configuring python. Now re-doing from downloaded CD.
[10:44] <nikolam> anyone have an idea, how to report a bug when automatic bug reporting crashes itself? (lsb_release problem in 12.04 LTS)
[10:45] <TheSheep> !bugs
[10:51] <xubuntu874> ciao
[10:51] <calinut> hi
[10:54] <nikolam> well, my experience with several years with LTS releases is that most userspace non-security bugs never get fixed utill next LTS release.
[10:54] <nikolam> i will definately report. thanks.
[10:59] <nikolam> wll I just had some updates on 12.4 and I am sort of reportin 13-th bug report that pops-up automatically. And I think I actually have that error reporting every single day since 12.04 install. Such fun.
[11:02] <xub> I'm getting crashes on 12.04 from AbiWord, Chromium and possibly others: "org.freedesktop.dbus.error.serviceunknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"
[11:03] <xub> Any clues?
[11:05] <TheSheep> xub: how did you start X?
[11:06] <xub> Automatically, as setup by the installer
[11:09] <TheSheep> bug 1044333
[11:11] <TheSheep> xub: looks like that message is just a warning and not the reason for the crash
[11:14] <xub> TheSheep: why do you think so?
[11:17] <TheSheep> xub: becuase a lot of people have reported this message in a lot of completely unrelated reports
[11:17] <TheSheep> xub: and the solution to their problems was always something else
[11:17] <TheSheep> of course that's not a proof, just a clue
[11:18] <TheSheep> xub: I just checked and I have this warning in my logs too
[11:18] <xub> hm, it makes sense.
[11:25] <xub> TheSheep: in fact, the /var/crash logs report different messages. thakns for your time
[13:47] <kRush> why does 'sudo echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile' fail with a permission denied, but editing the file with a sudo'ed emacs works?
[13:48] <kRush> is the redirection not elevated somehow?
[13:51] <doflow> sudo sh -c 'echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile'
[13:56] <kRush> ok
[14:35] <aiena> Is it possible to prevet the desktop screen from fading into blackness (temporarily untill say you move the mouse) while watching a movie in xubuntu ?
[14:36] <doflow> use vlc. It takes care off that
[14:38] <aiena> hmm flash in a browser
[14:38] <aiena> I have vlc
[14:39] <aiena> I use it on windows too.
[14:39] <GridCube> disable the fading in the power settings
[14:43] <kRush> flash doesn't send the signal to inhibit power savings like it does on win, there are some hackish workarounds on google. adobe should just fix their shit imho
[14:43] <aiena> thanks GridCube
[14:43] <aiena> kRush: that explains it
[14:43] <aiena> thanks for the info
[15:20] <andrii> Hi all , guys need help - I can install skype but can't run it, all times get crush reports
[15:22] <siriusly> andrii: are you using 64bit?
[15:22] <andrii> 32
[15:22] <siriusly> segfault?
[15:23] <siriusly> or are you using nvidia or AMD graphics drivers?
[15:23] <andrii> one sec please
[15:24] <andrii> NVIDIA as I can see
[15:24] <andrii> does it might be a reason ?
[15:25] <siriusly> If so, follow the instructions in this link:
[15:25] <siriusly> http://is.gd/CPF0uP
[15:26] <andrii> thanks ! will let you know soon
[15:26] <siriusly> yw :)
[15:29] <andrii> MAGIC :)
[15:29] <andrii> thanks a lot !!
[15:30] <siriusly> andrii: cool :)
[15:31] <andrii> I have no idea what does this variable mean "LD_PRELOAD" - but it's working
[15:31] <andrii> :)
[15:32] <andrii> thanks  again and have a good day !
[15:56] <aiena> GridCube: Is it possible to make xubuntu mount my 2 other NTFS hard drive partitions on startup which are not mounted by default ?
[15:57] <aiena> andril LD_PRELOAD loads the item specified before anything else. Its like just saying load this first then  open xxx
[15:58] <GridCube> !fstab | aiena
[16:05] <aiena> GridCube mount point is fstab is optional right if you want it to remain default ?
[16:06] <GridCube> aiena, you choose your mount points to what ever you want, you just need that the mount directory exists
[16:07] <aiena> ok so I have to specify /media/xxx if I want it to remain there
[16:07] <aiena> or do i have to use full paths
[16:08] <aiena> hmm thats a full path sorry
[16:08] <elfy> to the mount point?
[16:08] <elfy> if so - yes
[16:08] <aiena> elfy: is there a difference between gksu and gksudo ?
[16:09] <GridCube> aiena, full paths, make sure to mkdir the xxx dir
[16:09] <GridCube> no
[16:09] <GridCube> theres no difference
[16:09] <aiena> GridCube: media already exist
[16:09] <elfy> aiena: I prefer to use UUID as well
[16:09] <GridCube> aiena, yes, it exists
[16:09] <aiena> when I mount a parition via thunar
[16:09] <aiena> the folders gets poluated in it
[16:09] <GridCube> yes
[16:09] <aiena> *populated
[16:09] <GridCube> but the xxx dir gets created by the gvfs thingy
[16:10] <elfy> aiena: I mount in /mnt - example UUID=14ee47cc-54cb-4887-8773-fd53121efe10 /mnt/music ext4 defaults 0 2
[16:10] <aiena> ok so /mnt is a better place
[16:10] <GridCube> no
[16:10] <GridCube> its the same
[16:10] <aiena> so i can specifiy .mnt/drive_name after making the directories there
[16:10] <elfy> it used to be that /media always showed on desktops and /mnt didn't
[16:11] <aiena> ok
[16:11] <GridCube> i like to mount to ~/Documents
[16:11] <GridCube> P:
[16:11] <GridCube> given that im the only user i dont care if others dont see the partition
[16:11] <aiena> one sec now this is crazy. .media gets populated only when the dirves are mounted i.e. the directories in it are created dynamically
[16:12] <aiena> */media
[16:12] <GridCube> yes
[16:12] <GridCube> thats why i told you to create the folder
[16:12] <aiena> so doe this mean in fstab i use only /media
[16:12] <aiena> for mount point
[16:12] <GridCube> no that would mount to media
[16:12] <aiena> so then i create the directories in /mnt
[16:12] <GridCube> and the mountpoint will be /media not /media/blahblahblah
[16:12] <aiena> ouch
[16:12] <GridCube> aiena, its the same wherever you create
[16:13] <GridCube> you just need to point to an existant directory
[16:13] <aiena> so I create permanent directories in /media first
[16:13] <aiena> and then point to those
[16:13] <GridCube> exactly
[16:13] <aiena> Ok
[16:13] <aiena> thanks
[16:13] <aiena> and what you are saying is /mnt and /media mirror each other at all times
[16:14] <GridCube> no
[16:14] <GridCube> by no reason whatsoever
[16:14] <aiena> ok
[16:14] <aiena> I cant create permanent folders in /media
[16:14] <GridCube> i say that its the same wherever you choose to mount the partition, be it /media or /mnt or /newdisk or /mymounts
[16:14] <aiena> do I need to do it with sudo in terminal
[16:14] <GridCube> yes
[16:15] <aiena> thanks
[16:15] <GridCube> some dirs are special tho, dont put a mount in /tmp XD
[16:19] <aiena> I know
[16:19] <aiena> that would dissapear
[16:19] <aiena> the next time I boot
[16:19] <aiena> dangerous
[16:21] <GridCube> yes
[16:21] <GridCube> bad idea
[16:23] <aiena> GridCube: for device you can specify either one right so specifying the UUID is enough right ?
[16:24] <elfy> I've never had a problem using uuid
[16:24] <GridCube> using the uuid its "safer" because it doesnt matter the order the devised are detected
[16:24] <aiena> thanks
[16:24] <aiena> I am using UUID alone for device thats ok right ?
[16:24] <GridCube> if you unplug a device and plugit back again in any other sata port it will mount correctly if you use their uuid, not so good if you use paths
[16:25]  * aiena nods
[16:25] <aiena> GridCube: for options in fstab specifying "auto" will ensure it loads at boot right ?
[16:26] <aiena> does fstab remove the drives from /media after that ?
[16:26] <GridCube> if you reboot, yes
[16:27] <GridCube> i use auto, i dont really know what goes inside fstab so i let the system decide
[16:30] <aiena> :)
[16:31] <aiena> the root and swap seem to be added already by UUID by default
[16:31] <aiena> so its a good reference
[16:35] <aiena> ok rebooting with good luck it should work :)
[18:38] <ddsss> so - when I press Ctrl+Fn buttons - I jump to that virtual desktop. Can I disable that  key combination?
[18:43] <TheSheep> ddsss: yes, which version of xubuntu?
[18:43] <ddsss> 13.04
[18:43] <TheSheep> ddsss: no, wait, it's not ctrl+fx, it's shift+ctrl+fx
[18:44] <TheSheep> ddsss: ctrl+fx only works in text console
[18:44] <ddsss> TheSheep, I know about Ctrl+Alt+Fn - that's not the one I'm asking about
[18:44] <ddsss> my problem is with Ctrl+Fn
[18:44] <lderan> my wifi cut out there ddsss did you get my response?
[18:44] <TheSheep> ddsss: in the terminal emulator?
[18:45] <ddsss> Ctrl+Fn makes me jump to that virtual desktop....
[18:45] <TheSheep> ah
[18:45] <ddsss> TheSheep, in xubuntu desktop
[18:45] <TheSheep> ok, settings manager -> window manager -> keyboard
[18:46] <TheSheep> then unbind the bindings for Workspace 1, etc.
[18:46] <ddsss> TheSheep, ha. didn't see that one. thanks
[18:55] <nantou> hi
[18:55] <nantou> i upgraded to 13.04 and now my graphics are all f**ked up
[18:55] <nantou> its like resolution has been divided by 4
[18:55] <nantou> everythings is much bigger now (icons, text)
[18:56] <nantou> tips?
[19:00] <recon_lap> dont know, sounds like a messed up xorg.conf or somthing
[19:01] <recon_lap> nantou: where you using a property driver ?
[19:01] <nantou> yes
[19:03] <recon_lap> nantou: don't think upgrades like property video drivers. maybe try reinstalling it
[19:03] <recon_lap> nantou: the driver i mean
[19:11] <xubuntu444> hi
[19:29] <ravster> hey all
[19:29] <ravster> once the torrent for the installation is done, I can just "dd" it onto my USB-stick, right?
[19:30] <lderan> ravster, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:30] <lderan> a handy guide :)
[19:32] <ravster> lderan: very cool, thank you.
[19:33] <lderan> ravster, no problem
[20:00] <llldino> Hey guys, anyone else having issues with suspending to ram in 13.04?
[20:09] <lderan> llldino, what issues are you getting?
[20:11] <llldino> I suspend, and when I try to reenable I get a blank screen
[20:12] <llldino> Processors are still running, I have to manually kill
[20:12] <llldino> Could be related to the weird boots i'm getting too
[20:40] <llldino> Hey guys, anyone else having issues with suspending to ram in 13.04?
[20:52] <Guest7864> I am running a shitty little Acer netbook. I'm looking for a very light OS that can just take care of the basics. I want to be able to fill out job applications and print stuff out.
[20:52] <Guest7864> I heard Xubuntu was very light and easy to use. Is this true? Or should I go for a different linux OS?
[20:54] <knome> Guest7864, please consider your language as this is a family-friendly channel
[20:54] <knome> Guest7864, what's your system specifications?
[20:56] <Guest7864> Running an Intel Celeron, don't know the exact processor speed.
[20:56] <knome> how much ram?
[20:56] <Guest7864> 4 GB of RAM, Intel integrated graphics, 320 HDD
[20:57] <knome> xubuntu should be fine on that machine
[20:57] <elfy> I'm sure it will be fine - I run xubuntu on an old laptop with little ram at all
[20:57] <Guest7864> Awesome, thanks guys.
[20:57] <David-A> Guest7864: that seems to be plenty. xubuntu runs reasonable well on an eeepc with atom cpu and 1gb ram
[20:57] <Guest7864> One more question. Is it an "RPM" based os? My printer driver says that...
[20:58] <MrHotsauce> its .deb bases
[20:58] <MrHotsauce> based*
[20:58] <Guest7864> I see
[20:58] <Guest7864> Alright, thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated.
[20:58] <Guest7864> Cheers
[21:11] <idodeisuke> I updated to 13.04 recently, all went smoothly, except that the desktop went gray ;( What to do?
[21:17] <David-A> idodeisuke: grayish like a gray xfce theme, that you lost a favourit background image, or unexpectedly bug-strucken grey? are panels, menus, etc okay?
[21:21] <idodeisuke> David-A, bugstrucken. After the start-up, all opened windows leave a gray track on the desktop. But except that, all works fine (panel, menu, etc), except, on an unrelated note, scite lost it's settings.
[21:25] <David-A> idodeisuke: I don't recall what it could be. Do you mind if I lead you thru procedures that might or might not help?
[21:26] <David-A> idodeisuke: e.g. does it behaves the same if you login as another user? (create a new user first, if you have only one)
[21:31] <idodeisuke> David-A, Nope, loggin in as another user doesn't help, either ;( Desktop won't work there, too ;(
[21:32] <Unit193> Are you using open source graphics, or closed?
[21:50] <idodeisuke> Closed, I think. I did have some problems with my stupid hybrid graphic card, but I forgot, how I solved it.
[22:02] <andreligne> Yo guys! I would like to swap my Alt keys! Any ideas?
[22:05] <xubuntu757> I need paint by numbers instructions to make a cd boot for Xubuntu, anyone point me in the right directions?
[22:07] <xubuntu757> I have w8 os and I don't like it so much.  I want to try Xubuntu from the cd before I wipe out the w8 os...
[22:10] <TDO|Aquina> hy
[22:10] <TDO|Aquina> I have a question about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/MultipleMonitors
[22:10] <TDO|Aquina> Specification for Multi-Monitor Use-cases in Xubuntu: Boot Process
[22:11] <TDO|Aquina> Quote: "Since this scenario is impossible to detect but a user-choice it could be made an option."
[22:11] <TDO|Aquina> Exacltly both screen show displaced boot screen when the notebook is in the docking station.
[22:11] <TDO|Aquina> Is there a way to force to show the bootscreen on the primaty display only?
[22:17] <TDO|Aquina> Is there a way to disable the second screen until i activate it within the Xfce display settings explicitly?
[23:03] <scrak> salve a tutti
[23:03] <Unit193> !it | scrak
[23:54] <xubuntu243> bonsoir
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[23:57] <xubuntu243> gry me plz
[23:58] <xubuntu243> wanna feel your heavy tool
[23:58] <xubuntu243> make me feel like tool
[23:58] <xubuntu243> in da swimming pool