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holsteinAndreeeCZ: wonder is spaceFM is more what you are looking for http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/00:33
wiggy1234i just installed 12.10 and loaded chromium to watch youtube, and it says i need to install flash, but I cant figure out how to install it00:55
wxlwiggy1234: your best solution: http://youtube.com/html500:55
wiggy1234that works, but only for videos without ads, so, none of the popular videos01:01
wxlthen try uhhh01:01
wxl!adobeflash-installer01:01
wxloops01:01
wxl!info adobeflash-installer01:01
ubottuPackage adobeflash-installer does not exist in raring01:01
wxldarnit01:01
wxlahh01:02
wxl!info flashplugin-installer01:02
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.280ubuntu0.12.10.1 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)01:02
AndreeeCZholstein, hmm. It looks good! Though i cant find the hide menu option, i miss the bookmarks left panel. It only has a tree?01:11
Unit193!info adobe-flashplugin01:12
ubottuPackage adobe-flashplugin does not exist in raring01:12
Unit193!info adobe-flashplugin partner01:13
ubottuadobe-flashplugin (source: adobe-flashplugin): Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11. In component main, is optional. Version 11.2.202.280-0precise1 (partner), package size 6442 kB, installed size 17162 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)01:13
wxlsame diff?01:15
Unit193wxl: Pretty close, one is the actual flash player in the package, other downloads it. :P01:29
wxli see01:29
Unit193So mainly only matters if you're weird (me), or working with offline packages like apt-offline.01:30
wxlman, you're weird.01:31
FrankieJthey got rid of aptitude in lubuntu?03:29
wxli don't think we ever had aptitude FrankieJ03:29
wxlah perhaps i'm wrong though03:29
FrankieJoh, i guess it worked cuz i had installed ubuntu 12.04LTS first03:30
wxlapt & dpkg willl do the trick anyways :)03:30
FrankieJi never used dpkg before...what is that used with mostly?03:31
wxldpkg -i some_package.deb to install a package file03:31
wxlthat's the most common use at least03:31
FrankieJahhh cant use apt for packages?03:31
wxlnot to install from file03:32
FrankieJoh ok, thx for clearin that up03:32
FrankieJhey wxl, watcha think of krusader? or is there another program that is superior to that03:35
wxl!info krusader03:35
ubottukrusader (source: krusader): twin-panel (commander-style) file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.0~beta1+git76+de1ea35-1.1 (raring), package size 3006 kB, installed size 9769 kB03:35
wxlah03:35
wxlif i was going to go that route i'd probably go cli03:36
FrankieJthat lies....i jus chose to install packages and it is installing about 300MB worth of shit03:36
FrankieJ!info cli03:36
ubottuPackage cli does not exist in raring03:36
FrankieJ._.03:36
wxlcommand line interface03:36
FrankieJoh03:36
FrankieJlol03:36
wxloooh03:36
wxlit does have a terminal panel, though03:36
wxlthat's nice03:36
FrankieJhow would you see 2 different directories at once in cli?03:36
wxldolphin (file manager in kubuntu) has that, optionally03:36
wxlyou're not familiar with norton commander, eh?03:37
wxlthat was the start of all that03:37
FrankieJnope03:37
FrankieJi actually JUST got into ubuntu cuz i know its easier to set up webserver with it03:38
wxlwell midnight may have proceeded it03:38
wxldon't think os03:38
FrankieJthan my win7 machine03:38
wxluh, that was for dos03:38
wxllike when dos was a think03:38
wxlthing03:38
wxl!info mc03:38
ubottumc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.3-10 (raring), package size 422 kB, installed size 1312 kB03:38
wxlther eya go03:38
FrankieJits a twin panel too?03:39
wxli guess i didn't realize it was still in development :)03:39
wxlyep03:39
wxlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander03:39
FrankieJoh wow, never seen that before03:39
FrankieJbasically everything can be done in cli eh03:39
wxlpretty much03:40
FrankieJhow about a full irc experience? can i use irc in cli than this xchat?03:40
wxlin fact03:40
wxl!info libcaca03:40
ubottuPackage libcaca does not exist in raring03:40
wxloh shoot03:40
wxlhttp://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca03:40
wxlthere, enjoy thta03:41
wxlirc? oh man, irc has been on the cli for long before it was in a gui03:41
wxlhere's a couple:03:41
wxl!info irssi03:41
ubottuirssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.15-5ubuntu1 (raring), package size 873 kB, installed size 2400 kB03:41
wxl!info weechat03:41
ubottuweechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB03:41
wxlthey're both pretty feature rich, but weechat can split windows horizontally AND vertically03:42
FrankieJnice, lemme check those out for a ibt03:42
FrankieJ*bit03:42
wxlthere's like a buhzillion configuration options03:42
wxlmy experience is you'll get lost for the better part of a day tweaking it to your liking03:42
FrankieJin weechat?03:43
wxlin either :)03:43
wxlso try mail in cli:03:43
FrankieJdat shit looks madd complicated for sure, i mite actually stick with xchat lol03:43
wxl!mutt03:43
Unit193Don't forget tmux and screen!03:43
wxloops03:43
wxlUnit193: shuttup i was getting to that!03:44
wxl!info mutt03:44
ubottumutt (source: mutt): text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.21-6.2 (raring), package size 795 kB, installed size 3556 kB03:44
Unit193!info alpine03:44
ubottualpine (source: alpine): Text-based email client, friendly for novices but powerful. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02+dfsg-2 (raring), package size 3092 kB, installed size 6996 kB03:44
wxlbah03:44
Unit193Newsbeuter for RSS.03:44
wxland yes, tmux is essential. it's like windows for your terminal03:44
wxl!info tmux03:44
ubottutmux (source: tmux): terminal multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7-3 (raring), package size 229 kB, installed size 513 kB03:44
FrankieJi use terminator for that03:45
FrankieJ!info terminator03:45
ubottuterminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96-2fakesync1 (raring), package size 257 kB, installed size 1777 kB03:45
wxlew gnome03:45
FrankieJheh, told you i started out with ubuntu03:45
wxl!purelxde03:45
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »03:45
FrankieJso  i just apt install tmux?03:46
wxlsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install tmux03:46
Unit193You're going to find people that like both, I've found annoying things with it that I just can't get past.03:46
wxlwhich, Unit193 ?03:46
FrankieJhow i start using tmux?03:47
wxlum03:47
wxltmux :)03:47
FrankieJlmao i gotta get used to this >_<03:48
wxlthen you can do ctrl-b % to open a new window in one direction and ctrl-b " the other direction03:48
Unit193wxl: Some of the basic ones I use all the time with word jumping/moving, editing, etc and some odd bits with the windows as well.03:49
wxlUnit193: i don't think we know whether or not you're talking about screen/tmux/terminator, alpine/mutt, some-other-crazy-thing-that's-only-in-your-mind, etc.…03:49
FrankieJso i gotta hold ctrl+b+shift+5 (to get the %sign)?03:50
Unit193Hah, tmux.03:50
wxlyep03:50
wxlUnit193: how dare you say something bad about tmux. ;)03:50
FrankieJi jus googled list of tmux commands and they aint working (the window jumping and everything_03:52
wxlctrl-b arrow keys do the trick03:53
wxllike ctrl-b ↑ to move to the pane above the one you're in03:53
FrankieJnope, that adjusts window size03:55
FrankieJyea i think ima stick to terminator03:55
FrankieJ._.03:55
wxlweird03:55
wxlworks fine for me03:55
wxlprobably all that gnome crap you've got going on03:55
FrankieJwat gnome crap? i jus clean installed lubuntu 1303:55
FrankieJi dont even have terminator install yet03:55
* wxl scratches head03:56
FrankieJtell me about it, i believe you and the hotkeys that i googled03:56
FrankieJbut it jus aint working right03:56
FrankieJfking retarded03:56
Unit193wxl: Did you change lxterminal to stop messing with the keybinds?03:56
wxlUnit193: nope03:56
Unit193FrankieJ: Please keep it a tad more family friendly. :)03:56
Unit193Hrm.03:56
FrankieJoh oops...03:57
FrankieJbut yea, i dont understand either, i havent even changed anything03:57
FrankieJbut when i press those keys binds i hear my harddrive working overtime03:58
FrankieJmaking madd noise like im copying lots of files03:58
wxlUnit193: ummmm did you ever notice it's called lib CACA?04:26
Unit193wxl: You are very confused with your IRC windows. :)04:27
wxlnot exactly :)04:27
Unit193!info caca-utils04:33
ubottucaca-utils (source: libcaca): text mode graphics utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.beta18-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 59 kB, installed size 537 kB04:33
thedoctarhello06:12
thedoctarI was just wondering how long does the support for lubuntu last, is it the same as the ubuntu version?06:13
thedoctarand are there lubuntu releases of ubuntu lts versions? e.g. is there a lubuntu 12.04.2?06:13
thedoctarubuntu lts updates*06:14
crabtackgood morning06:27
thedoctarwell it's afternoon where I am, but hello!06:27
crabtackIḿ from Germany and new here :)06:28
thedoctarokay06:28
thedoctarI'm from Australia and usually don't go on irc06:28
thedoctarDo you have a question? I'll try to help if I can06:28
crabtack:)06:28
crabtackIḿ thinking about joining the lubuntu team, but i dont now, where to start.06:29
crabtackI have experience with C++ and Qt creator06:29
crabtackcan you give me an advise?06:29
wxlthedoctar: no LTS yet, but soon. btw:06:29
wxl!release06:29
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:29
thedoctarubottu: yes, does the same apply to lubuntu?06:30
ubottuthedoctar: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:30
thedoctar...lol06:30
thedoctaroooh06:30
thedoctar!release06:30
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:30
thedoctarhahahaha06:30
wxlas i said there's no lts lubuntu yet06:30
crabtackI hate the bot06:30
wxlbeyond that everything else is applicable06:31
thedoctarwxl: so the same does apply I presume. also crabtack wants to join the lubuntu team06:31
wxlcrabtack: you need to go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers06:31
thedoctarwxl: thanks for your help06:31
crabtackthank you06:31
wxlnp06:32
crabtackstupid question: can I use Qt creator, to develop for Lubuntu? I know, that it is possible, but it is accepted by the community and used by other members?06:41
crabtackplease excuse my bad english06:41
wxlnot being a dev i can't help you. they rarely come on irc either. try the mailing list or just join the team :)06:41
thedoctarqt creator is just an ide06:42
thedoctarbut I'm not sure whether qt itself would be considered apprpriate for lubuntu06:42
crabtackThe Problem ist, that Qt uses many Libs06:44
thedoctarindeed06:44
wxlwe've begun transitioning to qt06:44
wxlthat's the direction ubuntu's headed and it seems we're following suit06:44
thedoctarlol, really?06:45
wxluh, yup06:45
thedoctarI miss gnome206:45
wxlqt's not bad. i like it a lot really.06:45
crabtackoh, nice06:45
thedoctarbut how 'light' is it?06:45
wxli'll put it to you this way: just because kde uses qt doesn't mean qt isn't light06:46
thedoctarhaha, okay. you guessed exactly what I'd guessed!06:46
wxli use a bunch of qt apps on my lubuntu and i didn't have to grab a bunch of libs06:46
wxland qtractor runs like a dream06:47
crabtackThe extensions are very big, and lubunould stay smalltu sh06:47
wxlhard drive space is probably least of lubuntu's concerns06:47
crabtackok, right06:47
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kiwitinkerI am trying to install a program that says to install I should - make install (as user root) - so to do this would I go - gksudo make install08:13
x5ivesOn entering "update-alternatives --config java" I get "There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java12:53
x5ivesNothing to configure."12:53
x5ivesI'm trying to change to Oracle's jre.12:54
x5ivesFrom openjdk.12:54
holstein!java12:54
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.12:54
holstein^^^ i would just remove the other one and follow that.. though, i have added a ppa for the latest iirc12:55
x5ivesI'm folling the instructions from askubuntu linked on that page.12:55
x5ivesWait...12:55
x5iveshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk I'd prefer to just change, encase it doesn't work, I still have openjdk to fall back on.12:56
x5ivesAnd I don't want to have to download it again.12:57
holsteinx5ives: ? ...you can always reinstall the open one12:57
holsteinx5ives: i have not had both at the same time12:57
x5ivesI have once in Ubuntu.12:57
x5ives/usr/bin/java points to /etc/alternatives/java which points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java12:59
x5ivesThat could be part of the problem.13:00
holsteinx5ives: i would try #ubuntu ..since its not lubuntu or lxde specific, and you might get more input13:01
x5ivesOk, I usually ask here anyway since #ubuntu is usually quite busy.13:05
FrankieJanyone know a good WYSIWYG eidtor for lubuntu?13:41
FrankieJ!info kompozer13:42
ubottuPackage kompozer does not exist in raring13:42
FrankieJalso anyone here have the wallpaper glitch in the new lubuntu 13?13:50
kristian-aalborgcheers! been a while!13:54
FrankieJhey kristian-aalborg, if u lookin for help, chan is dead13:56
FrankieJ:(13:56
x5ivesHow do you update to 13?13:57
kristian-aalborgwhat do you mean?13:57
FrankieJwell im trying to figure out this new lubuntu 13 and no one is responding13:57
x5ivesDoesn't show up in Software Updater.13:57
FrankieJclean install x5ives13:58
x5ivesReally? That's the only way?13:58
FrankieJonly way i know how, and its usually the best way, no?13:59
FrankieJi jus clean installed myself14:00
FrankieJsince you still got 12, lemme ask you something14:00
FrankieJdoes your wallpaper setting glitch up?14:00
x5ivesNope.14:12
FrankieJwell then a fair warning, wallpaper dont act right in 13...espeically with dual monitor setup14:14
plotinohi everybody15:35
plotinoi have installed just yesterady15:35
plotinoi seemed all went well15:35
plotinobutr today i have restarted and 2 things are wrong15:35
plotino1. during boot resolution/freq is not compliant with my LCD15:36
plotino2. mouse is not working15:36
plotinoso i cannot access15:36
plotinolaso grub, due to wrong resolution is not visible15:37
plotinoho risolto per la risoluzione16:23
plotinoi have fixed resolution16:23
plotinobut the problem with mouser still there16:23
plotinoanybody there?16:29
cerebratehello plotino16:37
plotinohello cerebrate17:22
plotinoany solution to have mouse working properly in liubuntu?17:23
plotinoit0s a ps2 model17:23
meerkatI can only  connect to websites using IP-addresses. I think my dns is broken somehow17:24
Unit193meerkat: Open a terminal and type  dig google.com   and see what it says.17:33
cerebrateplotino could you get a piece that translates the ps2 into usb talk?18:06
cerebratei mean a ps2->usb adapter18:34
zianyahello, can anyone help me with this webcam? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]18:51
zianyaI'm in 13.04, is not working.18:51
FrankieJhow can i change the default web browser, ive tried changing it through "default application settings" but (for example) when i click a link from inside this xchat it still opens up chrome19:20
holsteinFrankieJ: i do it in the terminal19:21
holsteinsudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser19:21
FrankieJthat would change my default browser from chrome to whatt?19:25
FrankieJwhat if i want to change it to qupzilla?19:25
FrankieJyea qupzilla isnt showing up on the lsit19:26
FrankieJ*list as a choice19:26
FrankieJnvm, got it workin19:29
FrankieJthx holstein19:30
cristinahello20:00
cristinaanyone20:00
cristina?20:00
wxl!ask cristina20:01
wxlgr20:01
wxl!ask | cristina20:01
ubottucristina: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:01
cristinai use lubunto...how make a boot`able xp usb flash ?20:03
cerebratehi cristina would you like to join me in offtopic chat in #lubuntu-offtopic?20:04
wxlcristina: whatcha trying to put on it? an iso?20:04
cristinaye20:04
cristinayes20:04
cristinaxp iso image20:04
wxlcristina: so then dd should do the trick20:04
cristinadd?20:05
cristinatranslate20:05
cristina:D20:05
wxl!info dd20:05
ubottuPackage dd does not exist in raring20:05
wxloh bull20:05
Unit193If he's trying to get an XP image onto the USB device.....20:06
cristinaso...can you help me?20:07
wxlsudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb120:07
wxlbut first make sure of that last drive letter20:07
wxlsudo fdisk -l should help you figure it out20:07
cristinawxl my usb stick works and is monted20:08
cristinajust need the program20:09
wxldd is your program20:09
wxland the above is how to use it20:09
wxlassuming you know its device path20:09
wxland its not mounted20:09
Unit193of=/dev/sdb1?20:09
cristinagive me a link or something20:09
wxl1. unmount20:10
wxl2. sudo fdisk -l and find the path to the drive like /dev/sdb120:10
wxlit will nto have / on it20:10
wxl3. sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/device20:10
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plotinohi all21:23
plotinoi have installed lubuntu21:24
plotinobut i dont get audio out of my speakers?21:24
plotinoany  idea?21:24
FrankieJanyone here know what i can download to detect wifi connections?22:47
wxlFrankieJ: um, you should have everything you need with pretty much any distribution canonical has to offer22:47
wxlnetwork-manager + nm-applet22:48
FrankieJi didnt enable canonical yet22:48
wxluh22:48
wxlwhat?22:49
FrankieJin software updates, i did not enable canonical partners22:50
Unit193Are you looking for a netstumbler clone?  Or maybe just haven't hit the network icon at the bottom?22:50
wxlcanonical provides ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc.22:50
Unit193It's installed by default.22:50
wxlwhat i'm saying is if you have any of them, you've already got what you need22:50
FrankieJyea i know it comes with it, but in the latest lubuntu 13, network manager isnt enable and i cant see existing wifi without using iwlist scan22:51
FrankieJi jus wanna know how i can see wifi around me22:51
wxlwhat wireless card do you have?22:52
FrankieJintel22:52
FrankieJi can connect to mine jus fine22:52
FrankieJi just manually insert SSID and the password22:52
FrankieJbut i dont have no gui interface which shows me a list of existing wifi22:52
wxlyou don't have any sort of icon in the panel?22:53
FrankieJheh, i think i fail....ive been right clicking on the icon only22:53
FrankieJplz dont hate me...getting to know linux while stoned aint no easy task22:56
FrankieJ<3 ?22:56
wxloh that should make it easier22:56
wxlhow did you think it was created?22:56
FrankieJlmao22:56

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