[00:33] <holstein> AndreeeCZ: wonder is spaceFM is more what you are looking for http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/
[00:55] <wiggy1234> i just installed 12.10 and loaded chromium to watch youtube, and it says i need to install flash, but I cant figure out how to install it
[00:55] <wxl> wiggy1234: your best solution: http://youtube.com/html5
[01:01] <wiggy1234> that works, but only for videos without ads, so, none of the popular videos
[01:01] <wxl> then try uhhh
[01:01] <wxl> !adobeflash-installer
[01:01] <wxl> oops
[01:01] <wxl> !info adobeflash-installer
[01:01] <wxl> darnit
[01:02] <wxl> ahh
[01:02] <wxl> !info flashplugin-installer
[01:11] <AndreeeCZ> holstein, hmm. It looks good! Though i cant find the hide menu option, i miss the bookmarks left panel. It only has a tree?
[01:12] <Unit193> !info adobe-flashplugin
[01:13] <Unit193> !info adobe-flashplugin partner
[01:15] <wxl> same diff?
[01:29] <Unit193> wxl: Pretty close, one is the actual flash player in the package, other downloads it. :P
[01:29] <wxl> i see
[01:30] <Unit193> So mainly only matters if you're weird (me), or working with offline packages like apt-offline.
[01:31] <wxl> man, you're weird.
[03:29] <FrankieJ> they got rid of aptitude in lubuntu?
[03:29] <wxl> i don't think we ever had aptitude FrankieJ
[03:29] <wxl> ah perhaps i'm wrong though
[03:30] <FrankieJ> oh, i guess it worked cuz i had installed ubuntu 12.04LTS first
[03:30] <wxl> apt & dpkg willl do the trick anyways :)
[03:31] <FrankieJ> i never used dpkg before...what is that used with mostly?
[03:31] <wxl> dpkg -i some_package.deb to install a package file
[03:31] <wxl> that's the most common use at least
[03:31] <FrankieJ> ahhh cant use apt for packages?
[03:32] <wxl> not to install from file
[03:32] <FrankieJ> oh ok, thx for clearin that up
[03:35] <FrankieJ> hey wxl, watcha think of krusader? or is there another program that is superior to that
[03:35] <wxl> !info krusader
[03:35] <wxl> ah
[03:36] <wxl> if i was going to go that route i'd probably go cli
[03:36] <FrankieJ> that lies....i jus chose to install packages and it is installing about 300MB worth of shit
[03:36] <FrankieJ> !info cli
[03:36] <FrankieJ> ._.
[03:36] <wxl> command line interface
[03:36] <FrankieJ> oh
[03:36] <FrankieJ> lol
[03:36] <wxl> oooh
[03:36] <wxl> it does have a terminal panel, though
[03:36] <wxl> that's nice
[03:36] <FrankieJ> how would you see 2 different directories at once in cli?
[03:36] <wxl> dolphin (file manager in kubuntu) has that, optionally
[03:37] <wxl> you're not familiar with norton commander, eh?
[03:37] <wxl> that was the start of all that
[03:37] <FrankieJ> nope
[03:38] <FrankieJ> i actually JUST got into ubuntu cuz i know its easier to set up webserver with it
[03:38] <wxl> well midnight may have proceeded it
[03:38] <wxl> don't think os
[03:38] <FrankieJ> than my win7 machine
[03:38] <wxl> uh, that was for dos
[03:38] <wxl> like when dos was a think
[03:38] <wxl> thing
[03:38] <wxl> !info mc
[03:38] <wxl> ther eya go
[03:39] <FrankieJ> its a twin panel too?
[03:39] <wxl> i guess i didn't realize it was still in development :)
[03:39] <wxl> yep
[03:39] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander
[03:39] <FrankieJ> oh wow, never seen that before
[03:39] <FrankieJ> basically everything can be done in cli eh
[03:40] <wxl> pretty much
[03:40] <FrankieJ> how about a full irc experience? can i use irc in cli than this xchat?
[03:40] <wxl> in fact
[03:40] <wxl> !info libcaca
[03:40] <wxl> oh shoot
[03:40] <wxl> http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca
[03:41] <wxl> there, enjoy thta
[03:41] <wxl> irc? oh man, irc has been on the cli for long before it was in a gui
[03:41] <wxl> here's a couple:
[03:41] <wxl> !info irssi
[03:41] <wxl> !info weechat
[03:42] <wxl> they're both pretty feature rich, but weechat can split windows horizontally AND vertically
[03:42] <FrankieJ> nice, lemme check those out for a ibt
[03:42] <FrankieJ> *bit
[03:42] <wxl> there's like a buhzillion configuration options
[03:42] <wxl> my experience is you'll get lost for the better part of a day tweaking it to your liking
[03:43] <FrankieJ> in weechat?
[03:43] <wxl> in either :)
[03:43] <wxl> so try mail in cli:
[03:43] <FrankieJ> dat shit looks madd complicated for sure, i mite actually stick with xchat lol
[03:43] <wxl> !mutt
[03:43] <Unit193> Don't forget tmux and screen!
[03:43] <wxl> oops
[03:44] <wxl> Unit193: shuttup i was getting to that!
[03:44] <wxl> !info mutt
[03:44] <Unit193> !info alpine
[03:44] <wxl> bah
[03:44] <Unit193> Newsbeuter for RSS.
[03:44] <wxl> and yes, tmux is essential. it's like windows for your terminal
[03:44] <wxl> !info tmux
[03:45] <FrankieJ> i use terminator for that
[03:45] <FrankieJ> !info terminator
[03:45] <wxl> ew gnome
[03:45] <FrankieJ> heh, told you i started out with ubuntu
[03:45] <wxl> !purelxde
[03:46] <FrankieJ> so  i just apt install tmux?
[03:46] <wxl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install tmux
[03:46] <Unit193> You're going to find people that like both, I've found annoying things with it that I just can't get past.
[03:46] <wxl> which, Unit193 ?
[03:47] <FrankieJ> how i start using tmux?
[03:47] <wxl> um
[03:47] <wxl> tmux :)
[03:48] <FrankieJ> lmao i gotta get used to this >_<
[03:48] <wxl> then you can do ctrl-b % to open a new window in one direction and ctrl-b " the other direction
[03:49] <Unit193> wxl: Some of the basic ones I use all the time with word jumping/moving, editing, etc and some odd bits with the windows as well.
[03:49] <wxl> Unit193: i don't think we know whether or not you're talking about screen/tmux/terminator, alpine/mutt, some-other-crazy-thing-that's-only-in-your-mind, etc.…
[03:50] <FrankieJ> so i gotta hold ctrl+b+shift+5 (to get the %sign)?
[03:50] <Unit193> Hah, tmux.
[03:50] <wxl> yep
[03:50] <wxl> Unit193: how dare you say something bad about tmux. ;)
[03:52] <FrankieJ> i jus googled list of tmux commands and they aint working (the window jumping and everything_
[03:53] <wxl> ctrl-b arrow keys do the trick
[03:53] <wxl> like ctrl-b ↑ to move to the pane above the one you're in
[03:55] <FrankieJ> nope, that adjusts window size
[03:55] <FrankieJ> yea i think ima stick to terminator
[03:55] <FrankieJ> ._.
[03:55] <wxl> weird
[03:55] <wxl> works fine for me
[03:55] <wxl> probably all that gnome crap you've got going on
[03:55] <FrankieJ> wat gnome crap? i jus clean installed lubuntu 13
[03:55] <FrankieJ> i dont even have terminator install yet
[03:56]  * wxl scratches head
[03:56] <FrankieJ> tell me about it, i believe you and the hotkeys that i googled
[03:56] <FrankieJ> but it jus aint working right
[03:56] <FrankieJ> fking retarded
[03:56] <Unit193> wxl: Did you change lxterminal to stop messing with the keybinds?
[03:56] <wxl> Unit193: nope
[03:56] <Unit193> FrankieJ: Please keep it a tad more family friendly. :)
[03:56] <Unit193> Hrm.
[03:57] <FrankieJ> oh oops...
[03:57] <FrankieJ> but yea, i dont understand either, i havent even changed anything
[03:58] <FrankieJ> but when i press those keys binds i hear my harddrive working overtime
[03:58] <FrankieJ> making madd noise like im copying lots of files
[04:26] <wxl> Unit193: ummmm did you ever notice it's called lib CACA?
[04:27] <Unit193> wxl: You are very confused with your IRC windows. :)
[04:27] <wxl> not exactly :)
[04:33] <Unit193> !info caca-utils
[06:12] <thedoctar> hello
[06:13] <thedoctar> I was just wondering how long does the support for lubuntu last, is it the same as the ubuntu version?
[06:13] <thedoctar> and are there lubuntu releases of ubuntu lts versions? e.g. is there a lubuntu 12.04.2?
[06:14] <thedoctar> ubuntu lts updates*
[06:27] <crabtack> good morning
[06:27] <thedoctar> well it's afternoon where I am, but hello!
[06:28] <crabtack> Iḿ from Germany and new here :)
[06:28] <thedoctar> okay
[06:28] <thedoctar> I'm from Australia and usually don't go on irc
[06:28] <thedoctar> Do you have a question? I'll try to help if I can
[06:28] <crabtack> :)
[06:29] <crabtack> Iḿ thinking about joining the lubuntu team, but i dont now, where to start.
[06:29] <crabtack> I have experience with C++ and Qt creator
[06:29] <crabtack> can you give me an advise?
[06:29] <wxl> thedoctar: no LTS yet, but soon. btw:
[06:29] <wxl> !release
[06:30] <thedoctar> ubottu: yes, does the same apply to lubuntu?
[06:30] <thedoctar> ...lol
[06:30] <thedoctar> oooh
[06:30] <thedoctar> !release
[06:30] <thedoctar> hahahaha
[06:30] <wxl> as i said there's no lts lubuntu yet
[06:30] <crabtack> I hate the bot
[06:31] <wxl> beyond that everything else is applicable
[06:31] <thedoctar> wxl: so the same does apply I presume. also crabtack wants to join the lubuntu team
[06:31] <wxl> crabtack: you need to go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers
[06:31] <thedoctar> wxl: thanks for your help
[06:31] <crabtack> thank you
[06:32] <wxl> np
[06:41] <crabtack> stupid question: can I use Qt creator, to develop for Lubuntu? I know, that it is possible, but it is accepted by the community and used by other members?
[06:41] <crabtack> please excuse my bad english
[06:41] <wxl> not being a dev i can't help you. they rarely come on irc either. try the mailing list or just join the team :)
[06:42] <thedoctar> qt creator is just an ide
[06:42] <thedoctar> but I'm not sure whether qt itself would be considered apprpriate for lubuntu
[06:44] <crabtack> The Problem ist, that Qt uses many Libs
[06:44] <thedoctar> indeed
[06:44] <wxl> we've begun transitioning to qt
[06:44] <wxl> that's the direction ubuntu's headed and it seems we're following suit
[06:45] <thedoctar> lol, really?
[06:45] <wxl> uh, yup
[06:45] <thedoctar> I miss gnome2
[06:45] <wxl> qt's not bad. i like it a lot really.
[06:45] <crabtack> oh, nice
[06:45] <thedoctar> but how 'light' is it?
[06:46] <wxl> i'll put it to you this way: just because kde uses qt doesn't mean qt isn't light
[06:46] <thedoctar> haha, okay. you guessed exactly what I'd guessed!
[06:46] <wxl> i use a bunch of qt apps on my lubuntu and i didn't have to grab a bunch of libs
[06:47] <wxl> and qtractor runs like a dream
[06:47] <crabtack> The extensions are very big, and lubunould stay smalltu sh
[06:47] <wxl> hard drive space is probably least of lubuntu's concerns
[06:47] <crabtack> ok, right
[08:13] <kiwitinker> I am trying to install a program that says to install I should - make install (as user root) - so to do this would I go - gksudo make install
[12:53] <x5ives> On entering "update-alternatives --config java" I get "There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[12:53] <x5ives> Nothing to configure."
[12:54] <x5ives> I'm trying to change to Oracle's jre.
[12:54] <x5ives> From openjdk.
[12:54] <holstein> !java
[12:55] <holstein> ^^^ i would just remove the other one and follow that.. though, i have added a ppa for the latest iirc
[12:55] <x5ives> I'm folling the instructions from askubuntu linked on that page.
[12:55] <x5ives> Wait...
[12:56] <x5ives> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk I'd prefer to just change, encase it doesn't work, I still have openjdk to fall back on.
[12:57] <x5ives> And I don't want to have to download it again.
[12:57] <holstein> x5ives: ? ...you can always reinstall the open one
[12:57] <holstein> x5ives: i have not had both at the same time
[12:57] <x5ives> I have once in Ubuntu.
[12:59] <x5ives> /usr/bin/java points to /etc/alternatives/java which points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[13:00] <x5ives> That could be part of the problem.
[13:01] <holstein> x5ives: i would try #ubuntu ..since its not lubuntu or lxde specific, and you might get more input
[13:05] <x5ives> Ok, I usually ask here anyway since #ubuntu is usually quite busy.
[13:41] <FrankieJ> anyone know a good WYSIWYG eidtor for lubuntu?
[13:42] <FrankieJ> !info kompozer
[13:50] <FrankieJ> also anyone here have the wallpaper glitch in the new lubuntu 13?
[13:54] <kristian-aalborg> cheers! been a while!
[13:56] <FrankieJ> hey kristian-aalborg, if u lookin for help, chan is dead
[13:56] <FrankieJ> :(
[13:57] <x5ives> How do you update to 13?
[13:57] <kristian-aalborg> what do you mean?
[13:57] <FrankieJ> well im trying to figure out this new lubuntu 13 and no one is responding
[13:57] <x5ives> Doesn't show up in Software Updater.
[13:58] <FrankieJ> clean install x5ives
[13:58] <x5ives> Really? That's the only way?
[13:59] <FrankieJ> only way i know how, and its usually the best way, no?
[14:00] <FrankieJ> i jus clean installed myself
[14:00] <FrankieJ> since you still got 12, lemme ask you something
[14:00] <FrankieJ> does your wallpaper setting glitch up?
[14:12] <x5ives> Nope.
[14:14] <FrankieJ> well then a fair warning, wallpaper dont act right in 13...espeically with dual monitor setup
[15:35] <plotino> hi everybody
[15:35] <plotino> i have installed just yesterady
[15:35] <plotino> i seemed all went well
[15:35] <plotino> butr today i have restarted and 2 things are wrong
[15:36] <plotino> 1. during boot resolution/freq is not compliant with my LCD
[15:36] <plotino> 2. mouse is not working
[15:36] <plotino> so i cannot access
[15:37] <plotino> laso grub, due to wrong resolution is not visible
[16:23] <plotino> ho risolto per la risoluzione
[16:23] <plotino> i have fixed resolution
[16:23] <plotino> but the problem with mouser still there
[16:29] <plotino> anybody there?
[16:37] <cerebrate> hello plotino
[17:22] <plotino> hello cerebrate
[17:23] <plotino> any solution to have mouse working properly in liubuntu?
[17:23] <plotino> it0s a ps2 model
[17:24] <meerkat> I can only  connect to websites using IP-addresses. I think my dns is broken somehow
[17:33] <Unit193> meerkat: Open a terminal and type  dig google.com   and see what it says.
[18:06] <cerebrate> plotino could you get a piece that translates the ps2 into usb talk?
[18:34] <cerebrate> i mean a ps2->usb adapter
[18:51] <zianya> hello, can anyone help me with this webcam? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]
[18:51] <zianya> I'm in 13.04, is not working.
[19:20] <FrankieJ> how can i change the default web browser, ive tried changing it through "default application settings" but (for example) when i click a link from inside this xchat it still opens up chrome
[19:21] <holstein> FrankieJ: i do it in the terminal
[19:21] <holstein> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[19:25] <FrankieJ> that would change my default browser from chrome to whatt?
[19:25] <FrankieJ> what if i want to change it to qupzilla?
[19:26] <FrankieJ> yea qupzilla isnt showing up on the lsit
[19:26] <FrankieJ> *list as a choice
[19:29] <FrankieJ> nvm, got it workin
[19:30] <FrankieJ> thx holstein
[20:00] <cristina> hello
[20:00] <cristina> anyone
[20:00] <cristina> ?
[20:01] <wxl> !ask cristina
[20:01] <wxl> gr
[20:01] <wxl> !ask | cristina
[20:03] <cristina> i use lubunto...how make a boot`able xp usb flash ?
[20:04] <cerebrate> hi cristina would you like to join me in offtopic chat in #lubuntu-offtopic?
[20:04] <wxl> cristina: whatcha trying to put on it? an iso?
[20:04] <cristina> ye
[20:04] <cristina> yes
[20:04] <cristina> xp iso image
[20:04] <wxl> cristina: so then dd should do the trick
[20:05] <cristina> dd?
[20:05] <cristina> translate
[20:05] <cristina> :D
[20:05] <wxl> !info dd
[20:05] <wxl> oh bull
[20:06] <Unit193> If he's trying to get an XP image onto the USB device.....
[20:07] <cristina> so...can you help me?
[20:07] <wxl> sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb1
[20:07] <wxl> but first make sure of that last drive letter
[20:07] <wxl> sudo fdisk -l should help you figure it out
[20:08] <cristina> wxl my usb stick works and is monted
[20:09] <cristina> just need the program
[20:09] <wxl> dd is your program
[20:09] <wxl> and the above is how to use it
[20:09] <wxl> assuming you know its device path
[20:09] <wxl> and its not mounted
[20:09] <Unit193> of=/dev/sdb1?
[20:09] <cristina> give me a link or something
[20:10] <wxl> 1. unmount
[20:10] <wxl> 2. sudo fdisk -l and find the path to the drive like /dev/sdb1
[20:10] <wxl> it will nto have / on it
[20:10] <wxl> 3. sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/device
[21:23] <plotino> hi all
[21:24] <plotino> i have installed lubuntu
[21:24] <plotino> but i dont get audio out of my speakers?
[21:24] <plotino> any  idea?
[22:47] <FrankieJ> anyone here know what i can download to detect wifi connections?
[22:47] <wxl> FrankieJ: um, you should have everything you need with pretty much any distribution canonical has to offer
[22:48] <wxl> network-manager + nm-applet
[22:48] <FrankieJ> i didnt enable canonical yet
[22:48] <wxl> uh
[22:49] <wxl> what?
[22:50] <FrankieJ> in software updates, i did not enable canonical partners
[22:50] <Unit193> Are you looking for a netstumbler clone?  Or maybe just haven't hit the network icon at the bottom?
[22:50] <wxl> canonical provides ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc.
[22:50] <Unit193> It's installed by default.
[22:50] <wxl> what i'm saying is if you have any of them, you've already got what you need
[22:51] <FrankieJ> yea i know it comes with it, but in the latest lubuntu 13, network manager isnt enable and i cant see existing wifi without using iwlist scan
[22:51] <FrankieJ> i jus wanna know how i can see wifi around me
[22:52] <wxl> what wireless card do you have?
[22:52] <FrankieJ> intel
[22:52] <FrankieJ> i can connect to mine jus fine
[22:52] <FrankieJ> i just manually insert SSID and the password
[22:52] <FrankieJ> but i dont have no gui interface which shows me a list of existing wifi
[22:53] <wxl> you don't have any sort of icon in the panel?
[22:53] <FrankieJ> heh, i think i fail....ive been right clicking on the icon only
[22:56] <FrankieJ> plz dont hate me...getting to know linux while stoned aint no easy task
[22:56] <FrankieJ> <3 ?
[22:56] <wxl> oh that should make it easier
[22:56] <wxl> how did you think it was created?
[22:56] <FrankieJ> lmao