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[00:33] <holstein> AndreeeCZ: wonder is spaceFM is more what you are looking for http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/
[00:55] <wiggy1234> i just installed 12.10 and loaded chromium to watch youtube, and it says i need to install flash, but I cant figure out how to install it
[00:55] <wxl> wiggy1234: your best solution: http://youtube.com/html5
[01:01] <wiggy1234> that works, but only for videos without ads, so, none of the popular videos
[01:01] <wxl> then try uhhh
[01:01] <wxl> !adobeflash-installer
[01:01] <wxl> oops
[01:01] <wxl> !info adobeflash-installer
[01:01] <ubottu> Package adobeflash-installer does not exist in raring
[01:01] <wxl> darnit
[01:02] <wxl> ahh
[01:02] <wxl> !info flashplugin-installer
[01:02] <ubottu> flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.280ubuntu0.12.10.1 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[01:11] <AndreeeCZ> holstein, hmm. It looks good! Though i cant find the hide menu option, i miss the bookmarks left panel. It only has a tree?
[01:12] <Unit193> !info adobe-flashplugin
[01:12] <ubottu> Package adobe-flashplugin does not exist in raring
[01:13] <Unit193> !info adobe-flashplugin partner
[01:13] <ubottu> adobe-flashplugin (source: adobe-flashplugin): Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11. In component main, is optional. Version 11.2.202.280-0precise1 (partner), package size 6442 kB, installed size 17162 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[01:15] <wxl> same diff?
[01:29] <Unit193> wxl: Pretty close, one is the actual flash player in the package, other downloads it. :P
[01:29] <wxl> i see
[01:30] <Unit193> So mainly only matters if you're weird (me), or working with offline packages like apt-offline.
[01:31] <wxl> man, you're weird.
[03:29] <FrankieJ> they got rid of aptitude in lubuntu?
[03:29] <wxl> i don't think we ever had aptitude FrankieJ
[03:29] <wxl> ah perhaps i'm wrong though
[03:30] <FrankieJ> oh, i guess it worked cuz i had installed ubuntu 12.04LTS first
[03:30] <wxl> apt & dpkg willl do the trick anyways :)
[03:31] <FrankieJ> i never used dpkg before...what is that used with mostly?
[03:31] <wxl> dpkg -i some_package.deb to install a package file
[03:31] <wxl> that's the most common use at least
[03:31] <FrankieJ> ahhh cant use apt for packages?
[03:32] <wxl> not to install from file
[03:32] <FrankieJ> oh ok, thx for clearin that up
[03:35] <FrankieJ> hey wxl, watcha think of krusader? or is there another program that is superior to that
[03:35] <wxl> !info krusader
[03:35] <ubottu> krusader (source: krusader): twin-panel (commander-style) file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.0~beta1+git76+de1ea35-1.1 (raring), package size 3006 kB, installed size 9769 kB
[03:35] <wxl> ah
[03:36] <wxl> if i was going to go that route i'd probably go cli
[03:36] <FrankieJ> that lies....i jus chose to install packages and it is installing about 300MB worth of shit
[03:36] <FrankieJ> !info cli
[03:36] <ubottu> Package cli does not exist in raring
[03:36] <FrankieJ> ._.
[03:36] <wxl> command line interface
[03:36] <FrankieJ> oh
[03:36] <FrankieJ> lol
[03:36] <wxl> oooh
[03:36] <wxl> it does have a terminal panel, though
[03:36] <wxl> that's nice
[03:36] <FrankieJ> how would you see 2 different directories at once in cli?
[03:36] <wxl> dolphin (file manager in kubuntu) has that, optionally
[03:37] <wxl> you're not familiar with norton commander, eh?
[03:37] <wxl> that was the start of all that
[03:37] <FrankieJ> nope
[03:38] <FrankieJ> i actually JUST got into ubuntu cuz i know its easier to set up webserver with it
[03:38] <wxl> well midnight may have proceeded it
[03:38] <wxl> don't think os
[03:38] <FrankieJ> than my win7 machine
[03:38] <wxl> uh, that was for dos
[03:38] <wxl> like when dos was a think
[03:38] <wxl> thing
[03:38] <wxl> !info mc
[03:38] <ubottu> mc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.3-10 (raring), package size 422 kB, installed size 1312 kB
[03:38] <wxl> ther eya go
[03:39] <FrankieJ> its a twin panel too?
[03:39] <wxl> i guess i didn't realize it was still in development :)
[03:39] <wxl> yep
[03:39] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander
[03:39] <FrankieJ> oh wow, never seen that before
[03:39] <FrankieJ> basically everything can be done in cli eh
[03:40] <wxl> pretty much
[03:40] <FrankieJ> how about a full irc experience? can i use irc in cli than this xchat?
[03:40] <wxl> in fact
[03:40] <wxl> !info libcaca
[03:40] <ubottu> Package libcaca does not exist in raring
[03:40] <wxl> oh shoot
[03:40] <wxl> http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca
[03:41] <wxl> there, enjoy thta
[03:41] <wxl> irc? oh man, irc has been on the cli for long before it was in a gui
[03:41] <wxl> here's a couple:
[03:41] <wxl> !info irssi
[03:41] <ubottu> irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.15-5ubuntu1 (raring), package size 873 kB, installed size 2400 kB
[03:41] <wxl> !info weechat
[03:41] <ubottu> weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB
[03:42] <wxl> they're both pretty feature rich, but weechat can split windows horizontally AND vertically
[03:42] <FrankieJ> nice, lemme check those out for a ibt
[03:42] <FrankieJ> *bit
[03:42] <wxl> there's like a buhzillion configuration options
[03:42] <wxl> my experience is you'll get lost for the better part of a day tweaking it to your liking
[03:43] <FrankieJ> in weechat?
[03:43] <wxl> in either :)
[03:43] <wxl> so try mail in cli:
[03:43] <FrankieJ> dat shit looks madd complicated for sure, i mite actually stick with xchat lol
[03:43] <wxl> !mutt
[03:43] <Unit193> Don't forget tmux and screen!
[03:43] <wxl> oops
[03:44] <wxl> Unit193: shuttup i was getting to that!
[03:44] <wxl> !info mutt
[03:44] <ubottu> mutt (source: mutt): text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.21-6.2 (raring), package size 795 kB, installed size 3556 kB
[03:44] <Unit193> !info alpine
[03:44] <ubottu> alpine (source: alpine): Text-based email client, friendly for novices but powerful. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02+dfsg-2 (raring), package size 3092 kB, installed size 6996 kB
[03:44] <wxl> bah
[03:44] <Unit193> Newsbeuter for RSS.
[03:44] <wxl> and yes, tmux is essential. it's like windows for your terminal
[03:44] <wxl> !info tmux
[03:44] <ubottu> tmux (source: tmux): terminal multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7-3 (raring), package size 229 kB, installed size 513 kB
[03:45] <FrankieJ> i use terminator for that
[03:45] <FrankieJ> !info terminator
[03:45] <ubottu> terminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96-2fakesync1 (raring), package size 257 kB, installed size 1777 kB
[03:45] <wxl> ew gnome
[03:45] <FrankieJ> heh, told you i started out with ubuntu
[03:45] <wxl> !purelxde
[03:45] <ubottu> If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »
[03:46] <FrankieJ> so  i just apt install tmux?
[03:46] <wxl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install tmux
[03:46] <Unit193> You're going to find people that like both, I've found annoying things with it that I just can't get past.
[03:46] <wxl> which, Unit193 ?
[03:47] <FrankieJ> how i start using tmux?
[03:47] <wxl> um
[03:47] <wxl> tmux :)
[03:48] <FrankieJ> lmao i gotta get used to this >_<
[03:48] <wxl> then you can do ctrl-b % to open a new window in one direction and ctrl-b " the other direction
[03:49] <Unit193> wxl: Some of the basic ones I use all the time with word jumping/moving, editing, etc and some odd bits with the windows as well.
[03:49] <wxl> Unit193: i don't think we know whether or not you're talking about screen/tmux/terminator, alpine/mutt, some-other-crazy-thing-that's-only-in-your-mind, etc.…
[03:50] <FrankieJ> so i gotta hold ctrl+b+shift+5 (to get the %sign)?
[03:50] <Unit193> Hah, tmux.
[03:50] <wxl> yep
[03:50] <wxl> Unit193: how dare you say something bad about tmux. ;)
[03:52] <FrankieJ> i jus googled list of tmux commands and they aint working (the window jumping and everything_
[03:53] <wxl> ctrl-b arrow keys do the trick
[03:53] <wxl> like ctrl-b ↑ to move to the pane above the one you're in
[03:55] <FrankieJ> nope, that adjusts window size
[03:55] <FrankieJ> yea i think ima stick to terminator
[03:55] <FrankieJ> ._.
[03:55] <wxl> weird
[03:55] <wxl> works fine for me
[03:55] <wxl> probably all that gnome crap you've got going on
[03:55] <FrankieJ> wat gnome crap? i jus clean installed lubuntu 13
[03:55] <FrankieJ> i dont even have terminator install yet
[03:56]  * wxl scratches head
[03:56] <FrankieJ> tell me about it, i believe you and the hotkeys that i googled
[03:56] <FrankieJ> but it jus aint working right
[03:56] <FrankieJ> fking retarded
[03:56] <Unit193> wxl: Did you change lxterminal to stop messing with the keybinds?
[03:56] <wxl> Unit193: nope
[03:56] <Unit193> FrankieJ: Please keep it a tad more family friendly. :)
[03:56] <Unit193> Hrm.
[03:57] <FrankieJ> oh oops...
[03:57] <FrankieJ> but yea, i dont understand either, i havent even changed anything
[03:58] <FrankieJ> but when i press those keys binds i hear my harddrive working overtime
[03:58] <FrankieJ> making madd noise like im copying lots of files
[04:26] <wxl> Unit193: ummmm did you ever notice it's called lib CACA?
[04:27] <Unit193> wxl: You are very confused with your IRC windows. :)
[04:27] <wxl> not exactly :)
[04:33] <Unit193> !info caca-utils
[04:33] <ubottu> caca-utils (source: libcaca): text mode graphics utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.beta18-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 59 kB, installed size 537 kB
[06:12] <thedoctar> hello
[06:13] <thedoctar> I was just wondering how long does the support for lubuntu last, is it the same as the ubuntu version?
[06:13] <thedoctar> and are there lubuntu releases of ubuntu lts versions? e.g. is there a lubuntu 12.04.2?
[06:14] <thedoctar> ubuntu lts updates*
[06:27] <crabtack> good morning
[06:27] <thedoctar> well it's afternoon where I am, but hello!
[06:28] <crabtack> Iḿ from Germany and new here :)
[06:28] <thedoctar> okay
[06:28] <thedoctar> I'm from Australia and usually don't go on irc
[06:28] <thedoctar> Do you have a question? I'll try to help if I can
[06:28] <crabtack> :)
[06:29] <crabtack> Iḿ thinking about joining the lubuntu team, but i dont now, where to start.
[06:29] <crabtack> I have experience with C++ and Qt creator
[06:29] <crabtack> can you give me an advise?
[06:29] <wxl> thedoctar: no LTS yet, but soon. btw:
[06:29] <wxl> !release
[06:29] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:30] <thedoctar> ubottu: yes, does the same apply to lubuntu?
[06:30] <ubottu> thedoctar: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:30] <thedoctar> ...lol
[06:30] <thedoctar> oooh
[06:30] <thedoctar> !release
[06:30] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:30] <thedoctar> hahahaha
[06:30] <wxl> as i said there's no lts lubuntu yet
[06:30] <crabtack> I hate the bot
[06:31] <wxl> beyond that everything else is applicable
[06:31] <thedoctar> wxl: so the same does apply I presume. also crabtack wants to join the lubuntu team
[06:31] <wxl> crabtack: you need to go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers
[06:31] <thedoctar> wxl: thanks for your help
[06:31] <crabtack> thank you
[06:32] <wxl> np
[06:41] <crabtack> stupid question: can I use Qt creator, to develop for Lubuntu? I know, that it is possible, but it is accepted by the community and used by other members?
[06:41] <crabtack> please excuse my bad english
[06:41] <wxl> not being a dev i can't help you. they rarely come on irc either. try the mailing list or just join the team :)
[06:42] <thedoctar> qt creator is just an ide
[06:42] <thedoctar> but I'm not sure whether qt itself would be considered apprpriate for lubuntu
[06:44] <crabtack> The Problem ist, that Qt uses many Libs
[06:44] <thedoctar> indeed
[06:44] <wxl> we've begun transitioning to qt
[06:44] <wxl> that's the direction ubuntu's headed and it seems we're following suit
[06:45] <thedoctar> lol, really?
[06:45] <wxl> uh, yup
[06:45] <thedoctar> I miss gnome2
[06:45] <wxl> qt's not bad. i like it a lot really.
[06:45] <crabtack> oh, nice
[06:45] <thedoctar> but how 'light' is it?
[06:46] <wxl> i'll put it to you this way: just because kde uses qt doesn't mean qt isn't light
[06:46] <thedoctar> haha, okay. you guessed exactly what I'd guessed!
[06:46] <wxl> i use a bunch of qt apps on my lubuntu and i didn't have to grab a bunch of libs
[06:47] <wxl> and qtractor runs like a dream
[06:47] <crabtack> The extensions are very big, and lubunould stay smalltu sh
[06:47] <wxl> hard drive space is probably least of lubuntu's concerns
[06:47] <crabtack> ok, right
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[08:13] <kiwitinker> I am trying to install a program that says to install I should - make install (as user root) - so to do this would I go - gksudo make install
[12:53] <x5ives> On entering "update-alternatives --config java" I get "There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[12:53] <x5ives> Nothing to configure."
[12:54] <x5ives> I'm trying to change to Oracle's jre.
[12:54] <x5ives> From openjdk.
[12:54] <holstein> !java
[12:54] <ubottu> To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.
[12:55] <holstein> ^^^ i would just remove the other one and follow that.. though, i have added a ppa for the latest iirc
[12:55] <x5ives> I'm folling the instructions from askubuntu linked on that page.
[12:55] <x5ives> Wait...
[12:56] <x5ives> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk I'd prefer to just change, encase it doesn't work, I still have openjdk to fall back on.
[12:57] <x5ives> And I don't want to have to download it again.
[12:57] <holstein> x5ives: ? ...you can always reinstall the open one
[12:57] <holstein> x5ives: i have not had both at the same time
[12:57] <x5ives> I have once in Ubuntu.
[12:59] <x5ives> /usr/bin/java points to /etc/alternatives/java which points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[13:00] <x5ives> That could be part of the problem.
[13:01] <holstein> x5ives: i would try #ubuntu ..since its not lubuntu or lxde specific, and you might get more input
[13:05] <x5ives> Ok, I usually ask here anyway since #ubuntu is usually quite busy.
[13:41] <FrankieJ> anyone know a good WYSIWYG eidtor for lubuntu?
[13:42] <FrankieJ> !info kompozer
[13:42] <ubottu> Package kompozer does not exist in raring
[13:50] <FrankieJ> also anyone here have the wallpaper glitch in the new lubuntu 13?
[13:54] <kristian-aalborg> cheers! been a while!
[13:56] <FrankieJ> hey kristian-aalborg, if u lookin for help, chan is dead
[13:56] <FrankieJ> :(
[13:57] <x5ives> How do you update to 13?
[13:57] <kristian-aalborg> what do you mean?
[13:57] <FrankieJ> well im trying to figure out this new lubuntu 13 and no one is responding
[13:57] <x5ives> Doesn't show up in Software Updater.
[13:58] <FrankieJ> clean install x5ives
[13:58] <x5ives> Really? That's the only way?
[13:59] <FrankieJ> only way i know how, and its usually the best way, no?
[14:00] <FrankieJ> i jus clean installed myself
[14:00] <FrankieJ> since you still got 12, lemme ask you something
[14:00] <FrankieJ> does your wallpaper setting glitch up?
[14:12] <x5ives> Nope.
[14:14] <FrankieJ> well then a fair warning, wallpaper dont act right in 13...espeically with dual monitor setup
[15:35] <plotino> hi everybody
[15:35] <plotino> i have installed just yesterady
[15:35] <plotino> i seemed all went well
[15:35] <plotino> butr today i have restarted and 2 things are wrong
[15:36] <plotino> 1. during boot resolution/freq is not compliant with my LCD
[15:36] <plotino> 2. mouse is not working
[15:36] <plotino> so i cannot access
[15:37] <plotino> laso grub, due to wrong resolution is not visible
[16:23] <plotino> ho risolto per la risoluzione
[16:23] <plotino> i have fixed resolution
[16:23] <plotino> but the problem with mouser still there
[16:29] <plotino> anybody there?
[16:37] <cerebrate> hello plotino
[17:22] <plotino> hello cerebrate
[17:23] <plotino> any solution to have mouse working properly in liubuntu?
[17:23] <plotino> it0s a ps2 model
[17:24] <meerkat> I can only  connect to websites using IP-addresses. I think my dns is broken somehow
[17:33] <Unit193> meerkat: Open a terminal and type  dig google.com   and see what it says.
[18:06] <cerebrate> plotino could you get a piece that translates the ps2 into usb talk?
[18:34] <cerebrate> i mean a ps2->usb adapter
[18:51] <zianya> hello, can anyone help me with this webcam? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]
[18:51] <zianya> I'm in 13.04, is not working.
[19:20] <FrankieJ> how can i change the default web browser, ive tried changing it through "default application settings" but (for example) when i click a link from inside this xchat it still opens up chrome
[19:21] <holstein> FrankieJ: i do it in the terminal
[19:21] <holstein> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[19:25] <FrankieJ> that would change my default browser from chrome to whatt?
[19:25] <FrankieJ> what if i want to change it to qupzilla?
[19:26] <FrankieJ> yea qupzilla isnt showing up on the lsit
[19:26] <FrankieJ> *list as a choice
[19:29] <FrankieJ> nvm, got it workin
[19:30] <FrankieJ> thx holstein
[20:00] <cristina> hello
[20:00] <cristina> anyone
[20:00] <cristina> ?
[20:01] <wxl> !ask cristina
[20:01] <wxl> gr
[20:01] <wxl> !ask | cristina
[20:01] <ubottu> cristina: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:03] <cristina> i use lubunto...how make a boot`able xp usb flash ?
[20:04] <cerebrate> hi cristina would you like to join me in offtopic chat in #lubuntu-offtopic?
[20:04] <wxl> cristina: whatcha trying to put on it? an iso?
[20:04] <cristina> ye
[20:04] <cristina> yes
[20:04] <cristina> xp iso image
[20:04] <wxl> cristina: so then dd should do the trick
[20:05] <cristina> dd?
[20:05] <cristina> translate
[20:05] <cristina> :D
[20:05] <wxl> !info dd
[20:05] <ubottu> Package dd does not exist in raring
[20:05] <wxl> oh bull
[20:06] <Unit193> If he's trying to get an XP image onto the USB device.....
[20:07] <cristina> so...can you help me?
[20:07] <wxl> sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb1
[20:07] <wxl> but first make sure of that last drive letter
[20:07] <wxl> sudo fdisk -l should help you figure it out
[20:08] <cristina> wxl my usb stick works and is monted
[20:09] <cristina> just need the program
[20:09] <wxl> dd is your program
[20:09] <wxl> and the above is how to use it
[20:09] <wxl> assuming you know its device path
[20:09] <wxl> and its not mounted
[20:09] <Unit193> of=/dev/sdb1?
[20:09] <cristina> give me a link or something
[20:10] <wxl> 1. unmount
[20:10] <wxl> 2. sudo fdisk -l and find the path to the drive like /dev/sdb1
[20:10] <wxl> it will nto have / on it
[20:10] <wxl> 3. sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/device
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[21:23] <plotino> hi all
[21:24] <plotino> i have installed lubuntu
[21:24] <plotino> but i dont get audio out of my speakers?
[21:24] <plotino> any  idea?
[22:47] <FrankieJ> anyone here know what i can download to detect wifi connections?
[22:47] <wxl> FrankieJ: um, you should have everything you need with pretty much any distribution canonical has to offer
[22:48] <wxl> network-manager + nm-applet
[22:48] <FrankieJ> i didnt enable canonical yet
[22:48] <wxl> uh
[22:49] <wxl> what?
[22:50] <FrankieJ> in software updates, i did not enable canonical partners
[22:50] <Unit193> Are you looking for a netstumbler clone?  Or maybe just haven't hit the network icon at the bottom?
[22:50] <wxl> canonical provides ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc.
[22:50] <Unit193> It's installed by default.
[22:50] <wxl> what i'm saying is if you have any of them, you've already got what you need
[22:51] <FrankieJ> yea i know it comes with it, but in the latest lubuntu 13, network manager isnt enable and i cant see existing wifi without using iwlist scan
[22:51] <FrankieJ> i jus wanna know how i can see wifi around me
[22:52] <wxl> what wireless card do you have?
[22:52] <FrankieJ> intel
[22:52] <FrankieJ> i can connect to mine jus fine
[22:52] <FrankieJ> i just manually insert SSID and the password
[22:52] <FrankieJ> but i dont have no gui interface which shows me a list of existing wifi
[22:53] <wxl> you don't have any sort of icon in the panel?
[22:53] <FrankieJ> heh, i think i fail....ive been right clicking on the icon only
[22:56] <FrankieJ> plz dont hate me...getting to know linux while stoned aint no easy task
[22:56] <FrankieJ> <3 ?
[22:56] <wxl> oh that should make it easier
[22:56] <wxl> how did you think it was created?
[22:56] <FrankieJ> lmao