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gotwigHello masters :O11:53
gotwigMay I talk to you :O11:53
gotwigPlease push touchegg 1.1 to ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, as touchegg 1.0 does not work, and delivers segfaults to the users.11:53
gotwig(see the user reviews)11:54
gotwigwhere can I report broken software packages in universe?12:06
jtaylormicahg: ping ipython backport?14:13
jtaylorhas anything changed or are backports in ubuntu still impossible?14:13
jtaylorI find it weird that ubuntus rules for backporting are so much harsher than debians, given that in universe our general quality is so much worse14:15
ScottKjtaylor: Since 75% of Ubuntu packages are unmodified from Debian, how much worse can it really be?14:19
ScottKOur backports are, as a rule, safer to use than Debian's.14:20
jtaylorwe miss out on many bugfixes debian gets14:20
ScottKYes, releasing more often will cause that.14:21
jtaylorwe are never able to pick all fixes that go into debian post autoimport stop14:21
ScottKSo there are differences, but I don't think it's radically different.14:21
jtaylormy only grievance is the rdepends must build with backports14:21
jtaylorI see no reason why we need that14:21
ScottKSo you don't break user's systems when they install backports.14:22
ScottKSometimes people end up having to backport a set of packages together and that's fine.14:22
jtaylornothing breaks its a build failure14:22
jtaylorat least there should be a way around it14:22
jtaylorright now it seems I must sru yade to backport ipython14:23
ScottKTrue.  Usually a build failure implies a runtime failure also.14:23
jtaylornot in this case14:23
jtaylorits just a stupid version check14:23
ScottKIf it's tested OK at runtime, I think that's OK.14:23
ScottKPoint me at the bug and I'll say so.14:24
jtaylorbug 107476514:24
ubottubug 1074765 in Quantal Backports "Please backport ipython 0.13.2-1 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107476514:24
jtaylorI updated it to the new version in raring, which contains more bugfixes14:24
* jtaylor just checking if install and upgrade still works, as some changes are in the packaging14:26
jtayloris backports integrated into the autopkgtests?14:27
ScottKPlease put a comment in explaining the situation on yade.14:29
debfxScottK: is there a process to apply for ~ubuntu-backporters? imho the biggest problem with backports in ubuntu is that the team is understaffed14:35
ScottKdebfx: The process is talk to me.  Are you interested?14:36
* ScottK totally agrees with your diagnosis.14:36
debfxScottK: yes14:38
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/saucy-backports now exists ..15:48
coolbhavihighvoltage, :-)17:24
micahgScottK: re bug 1173817, since there are regressions in other social media, I'm thinking to throw it in backports18:24
ubottubug 1173817 in ttytter (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Please backport ttytter 2.1.0-1 (multiverse) from raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117381718:24
skellatmicahg: Yeah, that's the one thing that is lost with the new version.  It also won't matter in about a month as Identica won't be a Twitter-alike service anymore.18:27
debfxwhat regressions are there?18:31
ScottKWhat's happening to identi.ca?18:32
skellatThe back-end is changing to a Node.js-based bit called pump.io some time in the next 45 days or so.  The original timetable said it should have happened by now but Evan got delayed again.  No new users are being accepted for Identica as of early April, too.18:33
micahgdebfx: identi.ca and statusnet no longer supported18:39
debfxmicahg: in that case I agree that it should go into backports18:57
ScottKIf you agree, I'm OK with it.19:00
skellatOkay, what are the next steps I need to take?19:02
skellat(If any)19:03
micahgskellat: perform the backport testing as originally specified in the description19:03
skellatI'll put the paperwork back to what it was19:04
skellatSo I can keep track19:04
* micahg resets the tasks19:04
micahgskellat: thanks for bearing with us and providing crucial feedback19:06
skellatNo problem19:06
skellatI worked with the DD about getting this taken care of during the Wheezy freeze.  We couldn't get an exception but he got it into Sid and said he'd throw it in backports post-release once it became necessary and possible to do.19:07
skellatI had forgotten about it on the Ubuntu side.19:07
debfxtumbleweed: reverse-deps is sad without saucy data on the server19:59
tumbleweeddebfx: oh, sure20:04
gotwigI want to report a broken universe package20:55
gotwigwhere can I do that?20:55
gotwigwhy does no one react :(20:56
gotwigthe package touchegg in version 1.0 is broken in ubuntu 12.04 and 12.1020:56
gotwigIt would be nice if you could offer version 1.1 for ubuntu 12.04 and 12.1020:57
gotwigplease take a look at 117407021:00
gotwigbug #117407021:00
ubottubug 1174070 in touchegg (Ubuntu) "Touchegg 1.0 under 12.04, 12.10 causes segfault, is NOT working. missing backporting of 1.1 to 12.04/12.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117407021:00

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