[00:00] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: open with vlc instead of downloading when given option
[00:00] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: It is a plugin there is no vlc to open.
[00:01] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: Do you know what a plugin is?
[00:01] <scumbum> Wish vlc supported flash better in the web
[00:01] <scumbum> Yes.
[00:02] <JesseH> I am using ubuntu 12.04 xfce can anyone explain to me why my mouse randomly clicks things? Is it a mouse problem or what?
[00:02] <Jordan_U> JesseH: That most likely is a hardware problem. Have you tried a different mouse?
[00:02] <heneusl_pay> How shall I direct the stream to the already installed VLC plugin?
[00:02] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: you want to stream it in the web page.
[00:02] <JesseH> I haven't
[00:02] <Crazyj> Having a wierd problem. Ubuntu 13.04 - saying im connecting on status bar to wifi.cant go to anywebsites except bookmarked ones and google. Cant add repositories either. Any advice?
[00:03] <JesseH> Is ubuntu really dropping desktop support oneday?
[00:03] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: No I do not have access to modify the pages code, but I do want to play the stream inside the browser using the already installed VLC plugin.
[00:04] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: copy link then open vlc select stream
[00:04] <Jordan_U> JesseH: There is no indication that Canonical will ever stop supporting Ubuntu on the desktop, and many indications that they will continue. Further speculation on future events should be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:04] <ningu> I'm having an issue with trying to upgrade my server to 13.04. I have postgresql 9.2 installed from a ppa, and do-release-ugprade says it fails because postgresql-server-9.2-dev has no source but is tagged for removal. I'm not sure why that's a fatal error but in any case I want those packages not to be touched in the upgrade process. what should I do?
[00:04] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: It is a firefox plugin the VLC gui is not installed on the live CD.
[00:04] <JesseH> lol
[00:05] <JesseH> Thanks Jordan_U ^^
[00:05] <JesseH> I thought this was ubuntu related
[00:05] <ningu> should I tag the postgresql packages as manually managed for now?
[00:05] <Crazyj> Also i know the wifi is working becuase i can go anywhere on my ipad (which is what im currently using)
[00:05] <heneusl_pay> How shall I direct the stream to the already installed VLC plugin inside the firefox browser?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> JesseH: You're welcome. It is Ubuntu related, but not really an Ubuntu support question.
[00:05] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: its possible but clunky. I did it before. First try installing UBUNTU CODEC PACK from software center
[00:05] <JesseH> Ah, so wouldn't #ubuntu-support be better?
[00:06] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: no thanks
[00:06] <Jordan_U> JesseH: Discussion of the name of this channel is also offtopic for #ubuntu...
[00:06] <JesseH> xD
[00:06] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: is the vlc plugin activated in firefox
[00:06] <JesseH> Thanks Jordan_U bye bye
[00:07] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: yes, perhaps I can look at firefoxs default actions
[00:08] <ningu> also, any idea how to scroll up in the screen session opened by do-release-upgrade?
[00:08] <ningu> ctrl-a doesn't work like usual.
[00:09] <bob___> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610520/
[00:11] <ningu> no suggestions? I don't want to uninstall postgresql during the upgrade.
[00:11] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: I will ask in #firefox because there is no default action for m3u but there is for mp3.
[00:11] <ningu> so right now it basically looks like I can't upgrade.
[00:11] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: can you create one
[00:12] <anonkvv> HELLO everyone how are you
[00:12] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: I d not see a way to initiate a creation, so I am asking in #firefox.
[00:13] <scumbum> Okay
[00:14] <Jordan_U> ningu: Why are you using postresql from a ppa? I would recommend removing all packages installed from any ppa before upgrading, though it sounds like you don't want to do that for some reason.
[00:14] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: i got it to work once for flash. But fancy sites youtube would not work
[00:15] <anonkvv>  ACAN ANYONE HELP WITH TELNET
[00:16] <savio> anonkvv be more specific
[00:16] <Jordan_U> anonkvv: Please don't use all caps.
[00:17] <anonkvv>  i am trying to learn to use telnet and i am ircing with it
[00:17] <ningu> Jordan_U: because 9.2 is not available in ubuntu yet.
[00:17] <Jordan_U> ningu: Does the ppa you're using have packages for ubuntu 13.04?
[00:18] <anonkvv> just trying to learn to use telnet so i came to irc and anyone knows anything that they think would help with it please let me know
[00:18] <ningu> not officially. it officially only goes up to 12.04, at least, there is no dists/quantal, but the web site says 12.10 is supported.
[00:18] <Jordan_U> anonkvv: This channel is for Ubuntu support, asking about how to use IRC via telnet is not really on topic.
[00:19] <elfer> :o
[00:19] <Jordan_U> anonkvv: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, or #defocus.
[00:19] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: Flash is not installed, the directions for adding a default action are here but I am not sure how this will work since the plugin is not a stand alone app but contained inside firefox look here https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-firefox-behavior-when-open-file
[00:19] <ranjeet> Hey guys, I am still on 12.10, can I upgrade to the latest version 13.04? Is there any known problems, I should not go for upgrde?
[00:20] <Senor> Jordan_U : I have download a grub-rescue.iso ,and modified it ,how can I save it?
[00:20] <anonkvv> just tyrying to learn somthing new i have learned linucvx just not tell net
[00:20] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: vlc can play flash files standalone.
[00:20] <ningu> Jordan_U: anyway I guess if I want to be sure it will continue working I should wait until it's clear that there are packages for 13.04
[00:20] <Jordan_U> ningu: Then you'll want to wait until the ppa is updated, at which point I would still recommend removing the ppa's packages before upgrading (not just removing hte ppa), then re-enabme the ppa and install the packages again after upgrading.
[00:20] <LiquidDemocracy> I need some help. After the upgrade to 13.04 I can not log into Ubuntu anymore. After entering the password for 2 seconds is seems to load the desktop but then it jumps right back to the login window.
[00:20] <Jordan_U> anonkvv: This is the wrong channel. Please go elsewhere to experiment with IRC via telnet.
[00:21] <ningu> yeah, the postgresql web site describing the ppa is extremely unclear about this
[00:21] <ningu> I'll ask in the channel
[00:22] <Jordan_U> LiquidDemocracy: Have you tried the rescue session (I may be misremembering the name)? It's an option at the login screen.
[00:23] <ranjeet> readding my question again, any help appreciated
[00:23] <ranjeet> Hey guys, I am still on 12.10, can I upgrade to the latest version 13.04? Is there any known problems, I should not go for upgrde?
[00:25] <LiquidDemocracy> Jordan_U, there is only a guest access
[00:25] <ranjeet> Hey guys, I am still on 12.10, can I upgrade to the latest version 13.04? Is there any known problems, I should not go for upgrde?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> ranjeet: Yes you can upgrade. See the release notes for common known issues.
[00:26] <Noskcaj> ranjeet, you can upgrade through the update manager
[00:26] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | ranjeet
[00:27] <Stuz719> ranjeet: i've just updated lubuntu on one machine to 13.04, no problems so far but your mileage may vary. If you don't need to update why do you want to? My main production machines are on 12.04LTS where I'm using kubuntu
[00:27] <savio> ranjeet ubuntu  13.04 is good in every term did u see any review of it a good unity kernal 3.8
[00:28] <ZettaZete_> I tried to upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu, through console mode. Now I'm looking at a bunch of graphical noise. What can I do about this?
[00:29] <ranjeet> thank you all for answering the query, I am just a new user who switched from windows 8 to Ubuntu for performance. Installed 12.10 and found 13.04 is out
[00:29] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: You used do-release-upgrade?
[00:29] <ranjeet> If 13.04 is doing good then I will go for the update
[00:29] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U Yup.
[00:30] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: Did it finish without error? Did you get this corruption after rebooting?
[00:30] <ZettaZete_> I think the upgrade is still going. I'm not sure.
[00:30] <ranjeet> Again, thx a bunch for everyone who answered my query :-)
[00:31] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: When did you start seeing screen corruption? Can you take a picture of it with a camera and upload it?
[00:32] <Senor> how to make one iso file bootable?
[00:32] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: in address bar type about:plugins
[00:33] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U, it was shortly after it finished downloading all the packages. Yea, give me a moment.
[00:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> are you making the iso yourself, or downloading it?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Senor: What do you mean by "bootable"? You can take any Ubuntu iso and burn it to a DVD to make a bootable DVD, or dd it to a hard drive to make a bootable hard drive.
[00:34] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: ok finished, this gives some information but does not allow for adding a filetype, what to do next?
[00:34] <tuxGentoo> virtual serial port?
[00:35] <Senor> Jordan_U:I want to use it as a vitual cd-rom to boot kernel
[00:35] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U: http://s7.postimg.org/u15zz9tbf/IMG_20130427_174252.jpg
[00:35] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: hoping it would allow you to set somethings
[00:36] <heneusl_pay> scumbum: thank you for the information
[00:37] <Jordan_U> Senor: If you are still talking about that grub-rescue.iso, nobody is going to be able to help you with an image that you have but can't tell us where it's from, or even upload it for us to look at. Stop asking about it until you can do one of those things. Alternately, you can use Super GRUB2 Disk 2.00b1 like I recommended earlier, which I can help you with (in #sgrub).
[00:37] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: Can you ssh into the machine?
[00:39] <Senor> Jordan_U:I dowloaded it from sourceforge : http://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub.berlios/files/
[00:41] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U, Unless it was installed with the live CD. Its a pretty minimal install.
[00:42] <susana> hello
[00:42] <Jordan_U> Senor: Great. Please download super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.00s1-beta1.iso from that same page and join #sgrub for more help (as this is offtopic for #ubuntu).
[00:43] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: Unfortunately no, sshd is not installed by default.
[00:43] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: Does anything change if you press ctrl+alt+F1?
[00:43] <ZettaZete_> I have cycled through all the consoles. All of them are the same.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: If it's not to inconvenient you could let it run for a day to be pretty sure that the upgrade has completed (hopefully without any prompts asking for user input) then reboot via sysrq magic.
[00:45] <heneusl_pay> scumIs there a way to install the fluendo codec (that the install promps to enable) during a live session?
[00:45] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | ZettaZete_
[00:45] <heneusl_pay> Is there a way to install the fluendo codec (that the install promps to enable) during a live session?
[00:46] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: Obviously that's not ideal though. Were you using GPU drivers with KMS support? (If you were using proprietary drivers then the answer is no, if not then the answer is probably yes).
[00:47] <susana_> hello guys
[00:48] <totality> hey can anyoen help me wiht an issue im having with firefox in 13.04
[00:48] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U I have guessed a few times and have proceeded past a few prompts. It looks like its still going. I uninstalled the unsupported drivers a week ago and reinitialized the xorg configs.
[00:48] <totality> on a coupel fo websites certain private messagign systems all my messages seme to be appearing as random sybols and gibberis i ashumed language packs at first but there all installed
[00:49] <betrayd> even your chat's messed up
[00:49] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: Was X running when you started the upgrade or were you in a non-X tty?
[00:50] <Jordan_U> bob___: If you ssh in from the client can you see the directory?
[00:50] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U, I was using non X tty. However, looks like I guessed another prompt and it restarted. Everything looks OK so far.
[00:50] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: That's lucky I guess :)
[00:52] <ZettaZete_> Jordan_U, yea everything seems to be running fine. Thanks for the help anyway!
[00:52] <thiebaude> any good tutorials for installing ati catalyst drivers on ubuntu 13.04?
[00:52] <Jordan_U> ZettaZete_: You're welcome :)
[00:54] <ZettaZete_> I know this is a Google search away. However, getting a good recommendation might be better. What would you worry about most when trying to give up windows and migrate to Linux. Tips would be great, if you can lead me to an article would also be great.
[00:56] <thiebaude> ZettaZete_, i would do a search on youtube for migrate from windows to ubuntu
[00:56] <thiebaude> thats the best suggestion i have
[00:57] <md_5> friends doesnt seem to give me notification alerts. anyone got a working twitter client to give me alerts at tweets, thats all I need
[00:57] <ZettaZete_> Alright, simple answer is probably the effective one.
[00:58] <thiebaude> !ati
[00:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh gosh, why is Matrox even mentioned in the same line as nvidia or ati?
[01:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> why not mention Volari, while you're at it
[01:01] <totality> can anyone help with my text issue in firefox
[01:01] <scott_puopolo> ZettaZete_, look at whatever files you've created in Win8, can you work with them in Ubuntu?
[01:02] <bro_ken> my Ubuntu broke and won't boot. How do I go about diagnosing the problem?
[01:02] <strucker> Greetings bitches..
[01:02] <strucker> Sorry.. Fellas..
[01:03] <strucker> How can I emulate C++ on linux?
[01:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> the same way you emulate good manners... poorly. lol
[01:04] <CavalierPrime> bro_ken: download and use boot repair live cd is one place to start
[01:05] <bro_ken> ok thank you. I downloaded the Ubuntu cd but can't install or boot the live version
[01:06] <pmantis> It the alternate CD for Ubuntu 13.04 available? Or, how else to I install with software RAID1?
[01:06] <bro_ken> Memtest86 is showing a lot of errors. Will that fix it?
[01:06] <CavalierPrime> no
[01:07] <CavalierPrime> bro_ken if memtest is showing errors, swap some ram out, you have bad ones
[01:09] <Senor> Jordan_U:May I ask how can I modify one iso file?
[01:09] <Senor> it seems read-only
[01:10] <bro_ken> Could bad ram prevent booting?
[01:10] <Vanderson_> Guys if I a bug in Launchpad alread have a patch in the upstream, which status do I put? How I link the patch?
[01:10] <scott_puopolo> bro_ken, yup
[01:10] <KBentley57> bro_ken, are you overclocking?
[01:11] <bro_ken> no, kbentley
[01:11] <cato_> Hey guys, I'm having an issue compiling using GTK... I've installed libgtk2.0-dev, I added GTK cflags and libs (gtk+-2.0) to my makefile, but it still complains of undefined reference to gtk_*. Any ideas?
[01:11] <KBentley57> bro_ken, how much ram, what kind, and what is the rest of your system.  also, is it new?
[01:11] <scott_puopolo> bro_ken, or poorly seated ram
[01:12] <trism> cato_: pastebin the makefile if it isn't too complicated
[01:14] <bro_ken> http://www.imgur.com/S7yCo8Q.jpeg a photo of the Memtest86
[01:14] <bro_ken> that's bad, right?
[01:14] <bro_ken> sorry, pretty new to this and not sure if I'm understanding correctly
[01:15] <cato_> trism, re: makefile with GTK http://pastebin.com/kRrpY7HY
[01:15] <KBentley57> bro_ken, you're correct.  It's no good.  Did you build this pc, or buy it?
[01:16] <bro_ken> built it about 7 months ago
[01:16] <KBentley57> bro_ken, is the ram new, or the same ram used when you buiilt it?
[01:17] <myersg> does this site work for anyone? live.learnfree.eu/support
[01:17] <bro_ken> same ram from when built but was bought new at the time, why?
[01:18] <KBentley57> bro_ken, often times new ram is bad
[01:18] <myersg> I am trying to install opensuse on a usb drive, but the ubuntu usb start up disk creator doesn't do that
[01:18] <M1L0> hi all
[01:18] <myersg> so I need another program
[01:18] <KBentley57> myersg, use unetbootin
[01:18] <KBentley57> bro_ken, have you tried to up the voltage to the ram a little in the BIOS? or the cpu/nb voltage?
[01:19] <M1L0> i have a problem with notifications ballons in ubnutu 12.04 with xfce.. how i can eliminate that?? thx!
[01:19] <KBentley57> M1L0, what problem are you having?
[01:19] <KBentley57> bro_ken, what cpu/motherboard do you have?
[01:19] <bro_ken> no, will that help? I'll try to unplug /replug ram first
[01:19] <M1L0> hi, i need uninstall notifications baloons in my xfce...
[01:20] <myersg> how do I install that?
[01:20] <M1L0> sorry, my english is bad :S
[01:20] <KBentley57> bro_ken, try to reseat the ram first.  If that doesn't work, do them one at a time.  If that doesn't work, add ~0.05 V to the RAM voltage, and 0.05V to the cpu/nb voltage.  If that doesn't work, RMA
[01:20] <KBentley57> myersg, "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
 can you help me? plss...
[01:20] <myersg> thank you
[01:21] <KBentley57> M1L0, yes, I'm trying to think of how to make them go away
[01:21] <bro_ken> Thanks. Here's my build info http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/wfvkv/build_complete_frugal_pc/
[01:21] <Neytiri> hi this is gonna sound really weird but i am pretty sure there is a virus floating around on my linux system, any idea onhow i woudl remove it?
[01:21] <KBentley57> maybe you can try setting the opacity to "0" in the system settings till we figure out a good solution
[01:22] <scott_puopolo> bro_ken, if your computer has more than one ram stick, try booting with just one and then just the other to isolate a bad ram stick
[01:22] <trism> cato_: looks fine, did you check the output of your local pkg-config? also you add -L for gtk in /usr/lib/ but you query a pkg-config in /usr/local/bin/ which is kind of odd
[01:22] <bro_ken> Thanks Scott & kb
[01:22] <KBentley57> Neytiri, can you tell us a little more about it?  At least what it is and why you think it has a virus
[01:23] <KBentley57> bro_ken, welcome.  I hate hardware problems!  I just had to RMA two ram kits :|
 i use ubuntu 12.04 with xfce, but black notifications that appear are really annoying, as I can remove them?
[01:23] <comodo_dragon> Itunes on Ubuntu 12.10 Dont work. Do you known solution? ( I installed Wine )
[01:23] <Neytiri> well my webbrouser is acting funny nto loading pages properly,  even after deleteing cockies cache temp data and even the profiel and reinstallign it
[01:23] <Neytiri> and i use to have wine on the system
[01:24] <KBentley57> M1L0,  have a look at this:  see if it works. http://askubuntu.com/questions/104273/how-do-i-disable-pop-up-notifications-in-xubuntu
[01:24] <michael__> I dont speak
[01:24] <KBentley57> Neytiri, what browser, and which sites, or is it all of them?
 ok, thx...
[01:25] <Gerowen> What's the easiest way to "Upgrade" in place from 12.10 to 13.04?  I seem to remember in older releases you would get prompted with "There's a newer version of Ubuntu available!" and it would upgrade your system in place without having to boot from the CD.  Is that option still available?  The "Notify me of new versions of Ubuntu" box is checked in software sources
[01:25] <KBentley57> Gerowen, a simple command will do it.  "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[01:25] <michael__> I like Ubuntu more I have problens
[01:25] <michael__> rss
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> Gerowen, That shows if you have software sources set to all releases
[01:25] <pedroamaral> oi
[01:25] <bro_ken> successfully booted after removing one ram stick!  Thanks again
[01:26] <KBentley57> bro_ken, woot, nice catch!
[01:26] <scott_puopolo> bro_ken, ok now try booting with the other stick
[01:26] <pedroamaral> brazil server ?
[01:26] <Gerowen> KBentley57: Thanks, seems to be working, :-)
[01:26] <Neytiri> Firefox, and facebook, google, mcbans.com are the ones i have noticed it on
[01:26] <KBentley57> Gerowen, Welcome
[01:27] <pedroamaral> \ping
[01:27] <KBentley57> Neytiri, have you tried downloading firefox from the mozilla website, and running that to see if it displays the same odd behaviour?
[01:27] <Neytiri> no i havnt
[01:27] <KBentley57> Neytiri, give that a try, and report back if it acts differently, or even the same
[01:28] <Neytiri> kk
[01:28] <KBentley57> when you download it, it will be contained in one folder.  Just start the firefox from within that folder
[01:29] <cato_> trism: pkg-config reports that there's no gtk+-2.0 found. (that -L for gtk in /usr/lib was out of desperation :))
[01:30] <trism> cato_: ahh, why are you using a pkg-config in /usr/local/bin/ and not the system version?
[01:31] <cato_> trism: swapped it to /usr/bin/, same problem though
[01:31] <cato_> trism: edit: nevermind
[01:32] <cato_> trism: works now. Excellent, thanks for your help
[01:32] <bro_ken> well, now both sticks are working together fine. I guess it mayve been a seating problem
[01:33] <scott_puopolo> bro_ken, well that's cool!  is the ram under warranty?
[01:34] <bro_ken> probably not under warranty now
[01:34] <scott_puopolo> bro_ken, oh well it's working for now and you will recognize the problem if it occurs again
[01:35] <anonkvv> hello room
[01:36] <KBentley57> bro_ken, just because it's booting, doesn't mean it still isn't broken :).  Run memtest again for a while just to make sure
[01:36] <michael__> I make Sure hahaahh
[01:36] <Xgates> hi guys
[01:36] <anonkvv> i ss the commands for linux the same as unix
[01:36] <scott_puopolo> KBentley57, good call
[01:37] <KBentley57> scott_puopolo, i just had a hell of a time figuring out which stick was causing 1/4 of my ram not to show, even though the system booted and worked
[01:37] <Xgates> after bringing down the networkmanager; 'sudo stop network-manager' I'm trying to bring up the eth0 interface as; 'sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 up' but it's not doing anything. Anyone know how to manually bring it up, I thought that was it?
[01:37] <anonkvv> if someone was to connect to irc via telnet would they be able to exit out of a chat channel but not lose there connection to irc
[01:38] <scott_puopolo> KBentley57, how'd you figure it out? process of elimination?
[01:38] <KBentley57> Xgates, have you tried setting the configuration up in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:38] <michael__> brasil ???
[01:38] <Xgates> no I just thought I could do this from the cli is all
[01:38] <mzhang> Quick question - why would 50g virtual hard drive file (under "ls") only takes 12g if I use "du" on the folder? file system is jfs. I thought jfs does not support compression... Thanks.
[01:38] <vitimiti> bye
[01:39] <michael__> bye man
[01:39] <michael__> hahaahhhh!
[01:39] <KBentley57> scott_puopolo, I had to start the factorial process of ram swapping :).  I finally hit the one that wouldn't let the system boot period.  It still weirds me out that it was able to boot with a bad stick.  I suppose the others propped it up?
[01:39] <KBentley57> Xgates, try the "man ifconfig".  It may have a few tips.  Also, look up ethtool
[01:40] <KBentley57> Xgates, in fact, I'm pretty sure ethtool can do what you wish
[01:40] <varun> Xgates, as far as I know, you don't need the 'up' option if you are assigning IP with ifconfig. It has to be brought up is implied in it.
[01:40] <anonkvv> if someone is using a live usb will that save information on there computers hard drive?
[01:41] <KBentley57> anonkvv, focus your question down.  That could mean many different things
[01:41] <Xgates> So running  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 should bring it up?
[01:41]  * wilee-nilee red flag goes to half mast, lol
[01:41] <varun> Xgates, yes
[01:41] <Xgates> ok thanks let me give it a go brb if that don't work and thanks too KBentley57
[01:42] <varun> mzhang, what program created the virtual hard disk?
[01:42] <anonkvv> if i save files to mmy or with my live usb would it save to my harddrive or just the usb
[01:42] <babueter> hey all, having a strange cdrom issue with my install.  Installing 12.04 (from 8.04) and the cdrom wont mount during installer.  but this thing has always worked with ubuntu so i'm scratching my head here.  let me know if you have an idea.
[01:42] <mzhang> virtualbox
[01:42] <NoodleFox> yo whats the best learn-linux-on-the-command-line resource? Also in GUI... I am too cheap to do linux+
[01:42] <mzhang> varun: virtualbox
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> anonkvv, You trying to hack someone or checked if you have been?
[01:43] <KBentley57> anonkvv, if you are running from a live usb, most things saved are temporary only, and will not survive a reboot.  Unless, you have persistance on your usb
[01:43] <varun> mzhang, I think the default choice of VBox is to keep the disk size dynamic. Meaning it will grow as you fill it up, and the defined size will be the max. limit. So it seems natural to me
[01:43] <KBentley57> NoodleFox, check this out: http://linuxcommand.org/
[01:44] <mzhang> varun: I made it fixed size at 50gb.
[01:44] <anonkvv> so if you are running the live usb in presistance it could save files such to you hard drive but just in live mode it will nowt save it to the hard drive
[01:44] <NoodleFox> KBentley57: Excellent thank you :D
[01:45] <KBentley57> well, you could save files TO the hard drive in either case.  If you want to save files to the flash drive itself, you will lose it on reboot, unless you have a separate space on the flash drive to store files.
[01:45] <KBentley57> NoodleFox, Welcome :)
[01:45] <varun> mzhang, then I'm clueless.. :(
[01:46] <pierdolle> after update i cant provide sound to my tv (hdmi) but streaming video on it goes well. Is this invidual problem or is it many that have experiencd the same problem?
[01:47] <KBentley57> pierdolle, were you using the propriatary drivers before, and are you now?
[01:47] <anonkvv> so live mode saves nothing to hard drive and presistance does save to the hard drive right?prive msg #ubuntu :me?
[01:47] <anonkvv> me?
[01:48] <mzhang> varun: Found out. fyi: the file was saved as a sparse file. cp --sparse=never solved this.
[01:48] <KBentley57> anonkvv, you are half right.  live mode saves nothing to hard drive, unless you manually do it.  the "persistence" is a partition on the flash drive itself that can hold information between reboots, but that information is not stored on the hard drive of the computer
[01:49] <pierdolle>  never used someting special just custom (have drive ubuntu for 14days)
[01:50] <netlar> its been awhile since i used Ubuntu. How can you tell if there a software update now, do not see the indication in the system menu?
[01:51] <pierdolle>  its pooped up for me, I couldnt miss it
[01:51] <NoodleFox> is there a way to install gnome from out of the box instead of unity?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> netlar, update manager or sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> NoodleFox, There is a gnome only remix
[01:51] <netlar> So now I just need to make sure it is updated on my own?
[01:52] <NoodleFox> ahh ok I might try that then :D
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Security updates will popup the update manager
[01:52] <KBentley57> is there not a "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop"?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> gnome-shell or ubuntu-desltop
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[01:53] <NoodleFox> I stopped using ubuntu with the advent of unity, but I found a random computer Im going to toss it back onto
[01:53] <netlar> Is there a update manager in 13.04?
[01:53] <KBentley57> NoodleFox, you could always come back to visit me in XFCE land :)
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> gnome sits under unity which is called the ubuntu-desktop gnome 3 is the shell and fallback
[01:53] <KBentley57> netlar, yes
[01:53] <NoodleFox> actually I always stuck to kde and gnome
[01:53] <NoodleFox> and aero :trollface:
[01:53] <charles1> Anyone know how to install driver for novatel ovation mc679 in Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:54] <atrus> NoodleFox: there is a "gnome version" of ubuntu now, and you can transition to it from standard ubuntu pretty easily (in my experience)
[01:54] <netlar> Only thing I found was Software Updater
[01:54] <LargePrime> The following command is duplicating the final source dir under the destination dir.  can you say why?
[01:54] <KBentley57> NoodleFox, I just switched from uity to xfce with docky, and  i love it.  I did like unity, but I switched for other reasons
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> netlar, What desktop are you running?
[01:54] <sonofzeus> Hi there
[01:54] <NoodleFox> Well for me it was performance on my netbook
[01:54] <netlar> 13.04 32bit
[01:55] <KBentley57> LargePrime, what are you trying to do?
[01:55] <NoodleFox> and then on desktop it was hair pulling still
[01:55] <netlar> gnome
[01:55] <netlar> sorry
[01:55] <LargePrime> scp -r /home/user/stuff/ auth@ip.that.i.have:/home/user/stuff/
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Panel on the left click top button and type update manager
[01:55] <NoodleFox> I suppose Im molded into my ways
[01:55] <sonofzeus> I just installed phpmyadmin and at the configuration screen I just clicked ok without selecting apache2 or lightppd whereas I've to select apache2 now how shall I select apache2?
[01:55] <LargePrime> it is a server to server coppy
[01:55] <netlar> I did, only application that came up is Software Updater
[01:56] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[01:56] <KBentley57> ask your question sonofzeus
[01:56] <LargePrime> KBentley57: does that answer?
[01:56] <netlar> wilee-nilee: Sorry I am such a noob
[01:56] <KBentley57> LargePrime, yes, I'm trying to read up on the man page for a sec
[01:57] <LargePrime> if it on the man page just shoot me
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Might be called software updater now in 13.04 I forget.
[01:58] <sonofzeus> I just installed phpmyadmin and at the configuration screen I just clicked ok without selecting apache2 or lightppd whereas I've to select apache2 now how shall I select apache2?
[01:58] <harold_> I'm trying to install Wine 1.4 and I keep getting errors about dependancies which are missing or not installable
[01:58] <harold_> running 12.04 LTS
[01:58] <KBentley57> LargePrime, the syntax looks fine, I'm sure you've typed it in correctly
[01:59] <KBentley57> harold_, are you installing it from the repos, or from the wine website?
[01:59] <LargePrime> ok so perhaps a little bug?
[01:59] <harold_> I added the wine repository
[01:59] <KBentley57> LargePrime, have you checked the desination to make sure that user has write priv. ?
[02:00] <sonofzeus> Hello?
[02:00] <KBentley57> harold_, did you do the "sudo apt-get update" part before trying to install it?
[02:00] <LargePrime> it ends up in /home/user/stuff/stuff/
[02:00] <harold_> yes
[02:00] <KBentley57> harold_, when it was updating, did you see it pull in the wine repo ppa stuff?
[02:01] <Meris> How can I restore my Desktop folder after having deleted it (caused by a bug in PCManFM)?
[02:01] <harold_> umm not sure
[02:01] <KBentley57> LargePrime, can you try it again and post the exact output?  without the sensitive stuff of course.  I'll help with the googling; I can't think of something that would cause that error.
[02:02] <LargePrime> KBentley57: I thought perhaps it was a final / or not need final / issue.  or perhaps i needed a wildcard
[02:02] <KBentley57> harold_, run "sudo apt-get update" again and post the output
[02:02] <KBentley57> LargePrime, maybe try a small test text file without the final ./?
[02:02] <panshul> Hello.. is there any news about the desktop blank bug??
[02:03] <LargePrime> KBentley57:  will you be around for a while?
[02:03] <KBentley57> panshul, boot to black desktop?
[02:03] <panshul> yes
[02:03] <harold_> KBentley57, http://pastebin.com/xpTafe6v
[02:03] <KBentley57> LargePrime, I will be, for at least 20 minutes or so
[02:03] <LargePrime> KBentley57:  i cant in that timeline
[02:03] <LargePrime> ima PM if i get it figgured if you are curious
[02:03] <bonhoeffer> is there any way to get all file extensions in a directory (maxdepth = 1)
[02:04] <KBentley57> LargePrime, thanks, I would be curious!
[02:04] <panshul> i used gnome tweak tool to switch of file manager handling desktop.. -- got my  desktop back in gnome.. but not file operations happening in gnome.. unity desktop is still black
[02:05] <bob___> Jordan_U: Yep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5610730/
[02:05] <KBentley57> harold_, I don't see any ppa's that look like they belong to wine in there, or the ubuntu wine team.  Can you hit up a few times in the terminal until you get to the command that added the repository, and post that?
[02:05] <sonofzeus> Kbentley57, It would be great if you could help me out
[02:05] <panshul> KBentley57, any solutions yet?
[02:05] <harold_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[02:06] <harold_> if I go into the software sources it's listed and checked there under other
[02:06] <KBentley57> panshul, are you running an amd card or cpu?
[02:06] <KBentley57> panshul, I had something similar happen to me earlier today
[02:07] <panshul> KBentley57, i am running a Nvidia 660 SLI
[02:07] <KBentley57> harold_, that's odd.  You would think that it would update the source, but look through the list you pastbinned. There isn't anything there, or did I miss it?
[02:07] <panshul> KBentley57, how did u solve it?
[02:07] <Meris> bonhoeffer, could you elaborate on that? Do you want all extensions without the filenames(printed as many times as they exist in that directory) or do you want a list of all occurring extensions?
[02:07] <geektech713> hmm Nvidia has histroy of issues with Linux
[02:08] <KBentley57> panshul, Can you boot into the older kernel from 12.10?  Luckily I was able to boot into that one.  I haven't fixed it yet, none of the 3.8 or 3.7 kernels would work for me
[02:08] <bonhoeffer> Meris, if i have A.DOC, B.xls and C.DOC in my home directory i want DOC, xls as a list
[02:08] <harold_> KBentley57, I don't really see anything no......tried to search wine on it and still nothing
[02:08] <bonhoeffer> no folders
[02:08] <KBentley57> geektech713, that's a flaimbait generalization, and we don't need to have that discussion :)
[02:08] <bonhoeffer> trying find . -type f -maxdepth 1 but then i need to do a regex on results to get everything after the period
[02:08] <harold_> I'm not all that used to 12.04, the last desktop version I ran was 11
[02:09] <harold_> or no I think it was 10.04
[02:09] <panshul> KBentley57, nope... i did a fresh install.. so no old kernels there
[02:09] <harold_> I don't like how they are making everything harder for people that know what they are doing lol
[02:09] <KBentley57> panshul, can you see the grub menu?
[02:09] <KBentley57> harold_, give me a few minutes to think about it :)
[02:10] <panshul> KBentley57, it is working.. i can log into my unity and gnome sessions...
[02:10] <Meris> bonhoeffer, to get everything after the dot, use a cut with the \. as delimiter
[02:10] <bonhoeffer> sure -- but how do i cut the results of find?
[02:10] <panshul> KBentley57, but no file operations on desktop
[02:10] <Neytiri> well the firefox i downloaded seems to be working fine with no issues i guessi will have to replace the installed system with the one i downloaded
[02:11] <KBentley57> panshul, oh, then that is different then the issue i was having.  I couldn't make it past grub
[02:11] <KBentley57> Neytiri, I'm glad we at least found out the issue
[02:11] <panshul> KBentley57, oops
[02:11] <Hermes1111> Hi, I need to disable Ctrl + Alt , but gconf-editor does not have it listed anywhere
[02:11] <KBentley57> harold_, what is the command you are using to install wine?
[02:11] <Hermes1111> does anyone know of an alternative method to disable that hotkey?
[02:11] <KBentley57> Neytiri, I would just purge the installed one and reinstall from the repo
[02:11] <harold_> sudo apt-get install wine1.4
[02:12] <harold_> also tried just searching it in the software center and installing from there
[02:12] <geektech713> u can install wine from Ubuntu software center
[02:12] <KBentley57> harold_, can you try sudo apt-get install wine, and see which one it displays?
[02:12] <geektech713> playonlinux is better
[02:12] <geektech713> uses wine
[02:12] <Hermes1111> playonlinu is awesome, i use that too
[02:12] <KBentley57> I agree, +1 for POL.  the install scripts make everything nicer
[02:12] <Hermes1111> can anyone help me with my issue ?
[02:12] <bonhoeffer> Meris,  sure -- but how do i cut the results of find?
[02:13] <KBentley57> although, i gave up and installed a windows partition.  I couldn't get x64 with amd libs to work at all
[02:13] <harold_> hmm wine 1.5
[02:13] <charles1> panshul: I used ctrl-alt-f1 to terminal and then ctrl-alt-f7 and my desktop came back.
[02:13] <KBentley57> harold_, which version were you wanting, 1.4?
[02:13] <Hermes1111> no one knows of a way to manually disable hotkeys?
[02:13] <harold_> yeah that's what this guide said for a particular game
[02:13] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, we're thinking
[02:13] <Hermes1111> ahh ok, much appreciated =)
[02:13] <subcool> im being lazy
[02:13] <harold_> maybe 1.5 will work
[02:14] <KBentley57> harold_, I don't think you would have needed to add the repo to get that.  would a sudo apt-get install wine not work?  I believe 1.4 would have been in the 12.04 repos
[02:14] <harold_> looking at the info that pops up it seems like the 1.4 package depends on older versions of dependancies but only newer ones are available
[02:14] <subcool> how do you reset a machines host name? - I changed the IP of the machine for some reason (not even static) - and now i cant use the host name..
[02:14] <krabador> hi people, during ubuntu installation, can i resize partition?
[02:14] <KBentley57> krabador, yes
[02:14] <KBentley57> krabador, wait, resize?  I'm not sure.
[02:15] <krabador> resize i don't remember
[02:15] <rasusto> subcool: how did you use the hostname before?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> KBentley57: krabador: Yes, you can definitely resize partitions. It's a very common thing to do.
[02:15] <KBentley57> subcool, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[02:15] <krabador> Jordan_U, perfectly during the installation process ?
[02:16] <KBentley57> Jordan_U, krabador thanks for letting me know.  I usually only delete or create partitions of a fixed size in my installations.
[02:16] <harold_> KBentley57, well I remove the PPA and search and try to install wine1.4 and it says "wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4-0ubuntu4.1)"
[02:16] <jetsaredim> is there something majorly wrong with the radeon driver or something? I just rebooted and my system is nearly unusable
[02:16] <johnnyonflame> sup', 12.04 seems to be missing the 32bit multiarch libcggl libraries
[02:16] <harold_> I think I'll try the 1.5 install and see if it works though
[02:17] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, can you tell me a little more about what you're trying to do?
[02:17] <johnnyonflame> libcggl:i386 to be precise, where can I find it?
[02:17] <Jordan_U> krabador: Yes. If you choose to follow Ubuntu's automatic partitioning and keep a previous OS then it will resize said OS's partitions automatically as needed to make room, and you can also resize manually from the manual partitioning option in the installer.
[02:17] <jetsaredim> anyone else having issues with compiz/radeon on raring?
[02:17] <Meris> bonhoeffer, just pipe the results to cut -d\. -f2
[02:17] <bonhoeffer> thanks, man'ing cut now
[02:17] <KBentley57> jetsaredim, i couldn't boot the stock kernel in raring, using an amd 6970.  Can you get to tthe desktop[?
[02:18] <jetsaredim> KBentley57: yea - i'm up and running but its super slow and laggy
[02:18] <KBentley57> johnnyonflame, have you searched the ubuntu packages online
[02:18] <subcool> rasusto, i just inda used it. lol -
[02:18] <subcool> KBentley57, thanks
[02:18] <johnnyonflame> KBentley57, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/libcggl
[02:18] <KBentley57> subcool, welcome :)  sorry it was breif!
[02:18] <jetsaredim> KBentley57: how'd you get around it?
[02:18] <johnnyonflame> yep missing
[02:19] <KBentley57> jetsaredim, I haven't yet.  Luckily I had the older 3.5.0 kernel from 12.10 to boot into
[02:19] <KBentley57> johnnyonflame, that is odd
[02:19] <balls> acuntdu
[02:19] <Hermes1111> kbentley I have pmed you, do you want me to talk here or is that alright?
[02:20] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, oops, sorry.  I didn't see it!  Talk in here if you don't care, that way other people can have a look  at it.
[02:20] <Hermes1111> ok
[02:20] <jetsaredim> KBentley57: i have the previous kernel 3.8.0-17
[02:20] <jetsaredim> guess i better boot that
[02:21] <jetsaredim> how do i re-enable the grub menu?
[02:21] <KBentley57> jetsaredim, hit shift when it's booting
[02:21] <KBentley57> Hermes, ctl + alt resizes the window, correct?
[02:21] <jetsaredim> time to find a non-bluetooth keyboard
[02:21] <Hermes1111> ok im on ubuntu 11.10, ctrl +alt resizes the open window, no matter what program it is. im trying to disable ctrl + alt, I tried to find it in gconf-editor, but I couldnt find it, so I was wondering if maybe there was a special place for it there, or if there is a specific way I can disable it through terminal or somethin?
[02:21] <Hermes1111> yes
[02:21] <Meris> bonhoeffer, echo *.* | sed 's/ /\n/g' | cut -d. -f2
[02:22] <jetsaredim> KBentley57: brb - i'll let you know if reverting to -17 makes it any better
[02:22] <KBentley57> Thanks
[02:22] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, let me consult the google for a few minutes, and I'll see if i can find anything
[02:23] <Hermes1111> alright, much appreciated =)
[02:23] <trism> johnnyonflame: in precise it is in libcg, it was split out to libcggl in quantal
[02:24] <balls> fat puffin
[02:24] <johnnyonflame> trism, thats trouble- I need libcggl in order to run pcsx2
[02:24] <trism> johnnyonflame: the lib is in libcg http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/libcg/filelist
[02:26] <johnnyonflame> trism, thanks. I'll have a look around
[02:26] <Meris> bonhoeffer, did you see the last line? It doesn't need find if it's executed in the same directory
[02:27] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, is it just ctl + alt, or a combo like ctl + alt + 4, or something similar?
[02:27] <Hermes1111> just ctrl + alt
[02:27] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, what does it make the window do?
[02:28] <Hermes1111> the first time it splits the screen in half horizontally, the second time it resizes that half into another half vertically, then another half the third time
[02:28] <KBentley57> ah, i remember.  It's been a while since I used 11.10
[02:28] <Meris> Is there any way to restore my Desktop folder with full functionality after having inadvertently deleted it? I'm using XFCE on Ubuntu 12.04
[02:30] <KBentley57> Meris, You could always move your stuff to a temporary location, and recreate you user's home dir
[02:30] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, is compiz running?
[02:30] <Hermes1111> I dont even know what compiz is heh
[02:30] <Meris> KBentley57, hmm, my home partition contains a lot more than just a Desktop folder. I'd like to focus on that directory alone.
[02:31] <Hermes1111> should I install and run it?
[02:32] <Meris> !compiz | Hermes1111
[02:32] <harold_> ok.....so I need an SVN version of Winetricks now
[02:32] <Hermes1111> ty meris
[02:32] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, no, compiz is a windows manager thing that gives effects
[02:32] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, meaning, you may have been looking in the wrong place to disable it
[02:33] <Hermes1111> I see
[02:33] <KBentley57> Meris, let me think for a few minutes on that, k?
[02:33] <KBentley57> Hermes, can you pastebin the output of lsmod?
[02:33] <Hermes1111> sure 1 sec
[02:33] <Meris> KBentley57, sure, I've been thinking on it for a while now, I'd be grateful.
[02:33] <harold_> KBentley57, how do I check the version of winetricks I have installed?
[02:34] <Meris> harold, just less it, it's at the top of the file
[02:34] <harold_> Meris, what file?
[02:34] <KBentley57> harold_, winetricks --version should do it
[02:34] <Hermes1111> KBentley57 , here http://pastebin.com/003Cj1uP
[02:35] <Meris> harold_, the winetricks script is just a textile like any other
[02:35] <harold_> so how would I get an SVN version of winetricks? If the ppa wasn't working
[02:36] <KBentley57> harold_, you must have subversion installed, its a "version control system"
[02:36] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, let me look some more
[02:36] <Meris> harold_, did you even check the link I gave you? That points to a page that contains the link to the *latest* winetricks (=svn version)
[02:36] <Hermes1111> alright, thx again KBentley57
[02:37] <harold_> Meris, I don't see any link
[02:37] <Meris> harold_, sorry about that, I meant the link on winehq, just a sec
[02:38] <Meris> harold_, her you are: http://winetricks.org/winetricks
[02:38] <harold_> is there a package to install? or do I have to make it from source?
[02:39] <Meris> harold_, it's just a simple scriptfile, no package involved.
[02:40] <harold_> so the link is the script file?
[02:40] <harold_> ok
[02:40] <Meris> harold_, that is, the version I have pointed you to. Yes, it's just a single scriptfile.
[02:40] <harold_> so where do I save it? lol
[02:41] <harold_> sorry for the stupid questions its' been a while
[02:41] <Meris> harold_, anywhere you want, but I suggest you store it in your default .wine prefix directory. Just remember to make it executable with chmod 700 winetricks
[02:42] <harold_> is that where the one I would of installed from apt-get be?
[02:43] <harold_> nvm
[02:43] <harold_> i got it to work from apt get it's now that version
[02:43] <harold_> there we go now it's working :)
[02:44] <geektech713> ubuntu is easy as pie now
[02:44] <Meris> harold_, probably, not sure, anyway, it runs from anywhere. Just remember to set the proper wine prefix if you use multiple wine prefixes
[02:44] <geektech713> compared from 10 -15 years ago before Ubuntu
[02:44] <harold_> geektech713, I don't agree....they keep stripping stuff away
[02:44] <harold_> and trying to dumb it down
[02:44] <harold_> I don't like it
[02:44] <geektech713> well there is always CENTOS
[02:45] <harold_> hmm......ok so I'm supposed to do winetricks ie6 but says it doesn't work on 64bit os
[02:45] <Meris> harold_, then don't use it, you are free to use any other distro. It's all your choice.
[02:45] <harold_> I've always used Ubuntu
[02:45] <MartynKeigher> hey i have set the folowing permissions around the /var/www folder: chown -R webmaster:webadmins /var/www . so far so good, but when i add files into the www folder, how can i have it set so that webmaster:webadmins privsa are set AUTOMATICALLY for all thigns aded in AFTER the chown command??
[02:45] <harold_> they just make things harder to do
[02:45] <MartynKeigher> is this possible?
[02:45] <geektech713> plenty of choices with distros out there if you arent happy with ubunut
[02:46] <geektech713> ubuntu
[02:46] <geektech713> what u talking about back the day old school days before ubuntu ..it was tons harder
[02:46] <harold_> my only complaint is that you can go between 2 different versions such has 11 to 12, and a lot of things you did even in the CLI in 11 will be completely different in 12
[02:47] <Meris> harold_, one of the things thak took me quite a long time to get used to was the move from SystemV to upstart.
[02:47] <geektech713> I was on Red Hat 5 before fedora came out
[02:47] <harold_> well previous to this I used Gentoo....lol
[02:47] <harold_> yes it was harder
[02:47] <harold_> mainly the install
[02:48] <geektech713> ya gentoo is harder
[02:48] <geektech713> i had learn linux sudo commands to just install programs
[02:48] <geektech713> and had DOS down too
[02:48] <Meris> geektech713, Re Hat 5 eh? Well, I still use CentOS on my server. Sometimes when you need a commercial module, the Red Hat family has still the best support.
[02:49] <geektech713> I am talking about 12 years ago
[02:49] <geektech713> i am kinda of aged now
[02:49] <Meris> geektech713, DOS, yes, used that from 1985 to 1997 (the year I switched to linux)
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[02:49] <geektech713> i switched in 95
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> getta room guys, lol
[02:50] <geektech713> lol
[02:50] <geektech713> the mods didnt like it
[02:52] <Meris> bonhoeffer, you are taking your time cutting your filelist. Did it work for you?
[02:53] <savio> see th0r has join ...lol
[02:54] <LargePrime> KBentley57:  the -R switch copied the DIR, so it appends on end
[02:54] <Meris> harold_, if you don't want to be surprised too much between versions, stick with the LTS release for now.
[02:54] <KBentley57> LargePrime, ah, i see.  I should have spotted that
[02:55] <KBentley57> Hermes1111, I took a small break, but I'm still looking.
[02:55] <geektech713> i was happy with 10 before unity came
[02:55] <Hermes1111> ok, cheers
[02:55] <geektech713> unity reminds me of Windows
[02:55] <frotz47> me too! after hating both of the 11's releases and both of the 12's releases, I find myself with nothing bad to say about 13.04.
[02:55] <KBentley57> again, ot
[02:55] <Meris> geektech713, unity is just a shell, you can choose any desktop environment you like.
[02:55] <newworld> hi i have problem to login in live usb 13.04 i find in the web i dont see any solve
[02:56] <geektech713> ya i have 13 on my VMware
[02:56] <geektech713> i have to digg up my archieve for 10 again
[02:56] <harold_> Meris, that's what I'm running LTS, I was running 10.04 LTS previously and theres still a lot of differences lol
[02:56] <KBentley57> newworld, I'm afraid that english didn't come across like you hoped.  Can you ask again in a different way?
[02:57] <savio> geektech713 why ?unity is good
[02:57] <geektech713> i am being gnome for so long
[02:57] <geektech713> not fan of unity sorry
[02:57] <newworld> i install ubuntu 13.04 with Unetbootin in a usb and when i boot i can not login
[02:58] <KBentley57> newworld, I see.  Thanks.  Will it make it to the login screen, and then not let you log in, or does the boot process fail earlier than that?
[02:58] <Meris> harold_, true, but between LTS releases there are proper changelogs that you can choose to browse through or not, if you don't you might get a few surprises, yes.
[02:58] <newworld> i try with ubuntu and no password and not work
[02:58] <cer3alk1ll3r> I started with ubuntu about 5 years ago, just messing around with it.  I have tried fedora, Arch, and mint.  I just keep coming back to ubuntu.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> newworld, You don't have to login with a live load check the md5sum of the ISO.
[02:59] <KBentley57> guys, lets keep it focused.  Move this to #Ubuntu-offtopic if now working on a problem
[02:59] <KBentley57> not*
[02:59] <cer3alk1ll3r> newworld, did you do an install, or just trying the live?
[02:59] <cer3alk1ll3r> We'll do.
[03:00] <newworld> i try the live with the usb
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> !sum | newworld
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | newworld
[03:01] <Hermes1111> gah, is kbentley going to come back?
[03:01] <newworld> but i install the iso in the usb with Unetbootin maybe is this the problem?
[03:01] <Hermes1111> he was working on my problem =/
[03:01] <Meris> Hermes1111, what problem precisely?
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> newworld, Should not be check the ISO first, people use unetbootin all the time.
[03:01] <geektech713> never heard of that usb iso installer
[03:02] <Hermes1111> ok Meris, I am using ubuntu 11.10.
[03:02] <Hermes1111> I need to disable ctrl + alt hotkey
[03:02] <cer3alk1ll3r> I would check the ISO or try to create the USB again.  I have used unetbootin, so that shouldn't be the problem.
[03:02] <Hermes1111> which resizes the window on top
[03:02] <Meris> Hermes1111, at what stage do you need to disable it?
[03:03] <Senor> what is the main difference between bootable image and non-bottable image ?
[03:03] <geektech713> try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[03:03] <Hermes1111> disabling it for everything would be fine
[03:03] <Hermes1111> just need it to stop working =)
[03:03] <geektech713> i would use someone in the indrustry uses not some 5th party
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> Hermes1111, You are about 13 days from end of life of 11.10 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[03:04] <Meris> Hermes1111, the Ctrl + Alt + Del combination is pretty important for non-admin users to be able to restart the machine from a another VTT. Do you want to disable that as well?
[03:05] <newworld> can i use universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3 with WINE??
[03:05] <Hermes1111> yeah thats fine
[03:05] <johnjohn1011> i can't wait to get my 9 months out of 13.04. I hope i can make it to 14.04 with no updates for 3 months.
[03:05] <savagecroc> hey... the linux directory structure standard.. what's the name?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> newworld, ARe you going to check the ISO as good?
[03:06] <bazhang> !fhs
[03:06] <geektech713> newworld you run wine in ubuntu not usb drive
[03:07] <Meris> Hermes1111, does the file /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete exist on your machine?
[03:07] <bazhang> ^ savagecroc ^
[03:07] <Hermes1111> Meris, let me check 1 sec
[03:07] <newworld> yes i delete the file so i do again download
[03:07] <newworld> i see Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.3.3.exe – April 25, 2013 – Changes  Update to support final release of Ubuntu 13.04,
[03:07] <MartynKeigher> can someone tell me how i can make an alias for    alias for /var/www/ttrss
[03:08] <MartynKeigher> im going to myipaddress/ttrss and nothing is coming up. just a 404
[03:08] <newworld> and unetbootin dont say that support 13.01
[03:08] <newworld> 4
[03:08] <geektech713> probality because it wasn't real deal
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> newworld, Don't use the unetbootin download, use the rgular downloads so you have the ISO.
[03:08] <geektech713> bro
[03:08] <Meris> MartynKeigher, are you using Apache2 on that machine?
[03:08] <geektech713> just download from Ubuntu.com
[03:09] <MartynKeigher> yes
[03:09] <newworld> yes i  yes i use the regular downloads always
[03:09] <cocomo> hi, how do i resolve this error when using libx264 codec with libav x11grab "Incompatible pixel format 'bgra' for codec 'libx264', auto-selecting format 'yuv420p'"
[03:09] <geektech713> but the USB ISO install isn't the real deal if doesn't support new 13.04
[03:09] <Meris> MartynKeigher, in that case you'll need to the vhost settings so that it includes an alias for the same webspace as the main URL.
[03:10] <cocomo> please help someone ? i have been searching for a solution for days.
[03:10] <Meris> MartynKeigher, (...) you'll need to >adjust< the vhost settings (...) <= Sorry for that omission
[03:10] <geektech713> don't use Yahoo or bing for linux stuff
[03:11] <geektech713> Google every damn thing
[03:11] <MartynKeigher> i copied default from sites-available, named it ttrss, and edited the folder path accordinly. cahnging /var/www/mklab   for /var/www/ttrss
[03:11] <MartynKeigher> now i have enabled it and it does shoe in sites-enabled.
[03:11] <bazhang> geektech713, thats irrelevant, also watch the language
[03:11] <MartynKeigher> i restarted apache2 expecting it to work but it didnt
[03:12] <geektech713> not isn't Microsoft isn't good with Linux stuff i can back my case up
[03:12] <Meris> MartynKeigher, did you check the Apache logs? They are usually quite helpful
[03:12] <cocomo> geektech713: do u know about why i get "incompatible pixel formate error" with libav when using x264 codec?
[03:12] <newworld> why the startup disk creator of 12.04 dont let chosse the iso of 13.04 to install in the usb??
[03:12] <geektech713> like SEOwatch
[03:12] <bazhang> geektech713, it's offtopic, please move on
[03:12] <cocomo> okay lets move on to 'libav'
[03:13] <cocomo> "Incompatible pixel format 'bgra' for codec 'libx264', auto-selecting format 'yuv420p'" how do i resolve this error
[03:13] <Hermes1111> ok Meris, event.d was in a diff. folder, had to search for it
[03:13] <bazhang> cocomo, be patient, dont repeat every single minute
[03:13] <Hermes1111> only two files in event.d 20hdparm and anacron
[03:14] <cocomo> u don't really know i have been patient for 2 days now searching for a solution. am like budha now. OM''
[03:15] <newworld> i will burn a dvd
[03:16] <Hermes1111> Meris you still with me?
[03:16] <Meris> Hermes1111, hmm, try to add it as an empty file, just sudo touch [PATH before event.d] event.d/control-alt-delete
[03:16] <bazhang> cocomo, you need to give a more concise explanation of what exactly you are trying to do, what you have tried, pastebin all errors, what version of ubuntu, what hardware make and model, chipset etc if any used, and so on
[03:16] <Hermes1111> ok ill try that
[03:16] <cocomo> bazhang: ok
[03:17] <Hermes1111> Meris , the file has been created
[03:18] <dffosd> i added a ppa and managed to intall most packages from that ppa succesfully except for one. the ppa is here: https://launchpad.net/~cdemu/+archive/ppa and the package in question is libmirage. it gives me an unable to find package libmirage error.
[03:18] <ranjeet> where can i get this kernel headers 3.8.0-19-generic?
[03:18] <ranjeet> anyone ?
[03:18] <Meris> Hermes1111, try restarting the machine and see if it a) works b) kernel panics ;-)
[03:19] <Hermes1111> ok, ill brb :)
[03:19] <dffosd> i asked in #ubuntu-beginners but thought i might get a quicker answer here...
[03:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> sup. looking to use hh from wine for my double click open chm files (don't feel like installing a new program when hh does fine when I use wine start), but it does not work quite right
[03:23] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, no need for wine there, at all
[03:24] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, there are native chm viewers, several
[03:24] <jordan4ibanez> How do I stop Ubuntu from opening a "Report problem" dialog? It's kind of irritating. :L
[03:25] <cocomo> bazhang: http://pastie.org/7731518 please see this commands output. I wanna use libx264 codec with libav x11grab
[03:25] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, if you are dead set on using the windows program via wine to view chm, then support is in #winehq
[03:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: yes, but I already have wine installed and I wish to avoid installing extra crud. besides which, chmsee does not function near as well as hh
[03:26] <Hermes1111> Meris , it didn't work :( , ctrl + alt still resizes the window =X
[03:26] <bazhang> cocomo, to do what, on what version of ubuntu, etc etc. You have not answered some of the very basic questions I asked of you
[03:26] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, so /join #winehq for support of that
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> jordan4ibanez, The error poups?
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> popups*
[03:27] <Meris> Hermes1111, hmm,sorry to hear that. In that case it must be tied to the Window manager you are using. Which one are you using?
[03:27] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, chmsee is not the only one , either
[03:27] <cocomo> bazhang am using ubuntu 12.04 with avconv version 0.8.6
[03:27] <Hermes1111> Meris, how do I tell which one I am using? I am usin whatever is default with ubuntu 11.10
[03:27] <jordan4ibanez> wilee-nilee: Yes, like "The application Supertux has closed unexpectedly"
[03:28] <Meris> Hermes1111, that would be unity.
[03:28] <bazhang> cocomo, to do what *exactly*... you have never answered that very basic question
[03:28] <jordan4ibanez> Crash reporting basically.
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> cocomo: do a google search for recordscreen.py, I use it for my screencasts.
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> jordan4ibanez, It is apport you can remove it, or tick the ignore option it shows at times.
[03:28] <Meris> Hermes1111, did you try going to Preferences => Keyboard Shortcuts yet?
[03:29] <jordan4ibanez> Thank you. :]
[03:30] <Hermes1111> Meris, I have, i just checked again, and thats the thing... Ctrl + Alt is not listed there lmao. I even installed gconf-editor and it isnt anywhere to be found there either... lol
[03:31] <Hermes1111> I've never needed to disable a hotkey before, the one time I do and it's nowhere to be found lol
[03:31] <Meris> Hermes1111, are you running Compiz as well?
[03:31] <Hermes1111> Ive never installed compiz or used it before, so unless it runs by default then no
[03:32] <Meris> Hermes1111, it *does* run by default, yes
[03:32] <Hermes1111> Meris, then I spose I am :) , what shall I do now?
[03:36] <Meris> Hermes1111, I'm searching around...
[03:36] <Hermes1111> Meris, very much appreciated mate
[03:37] <jordan4ibanez> Man I really can't wait until we can make sub-menus in unity, I mean, I used to hate this, but now it's really, really nice. :D
[03:39] <Meris> Hermes1111, did you see this link? It's for Mint, but Mint is quite similar and the post was written in 2011: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=68340
[03:40] <Hermes1111> I have not meris, but you do realize I am trying to disable ctrl+alt, not ctrl+alt+delete
[03:40] <Hermes1111> but ill read up on that post
[03:40] <Meris> Hermes1111, no I wasn't aware of that.
[03:40] <berto-> i'm looking to use btrfs in RAID1 as my root filesyste, but after adding a device I get "Invalid argument" on boot.  I found a post that says i need to run "btrfs device scan".  how do i add that for booting?
[03:41] <Meris> Hermes1111, I use LXDE with OpenBox, so I have few experiences with Unity in depth. Sorry about that.
[03:42] <Hermes1111> Meris, it's alright, I really do appreciate you trying to help. Are you throwing in the towel or you still trying?
[03:42] <Meris> Hermes1111, How could you think that of me? I might need that towel to flag down a spaceship!
[03:43] <Jordan_U> berto-: Are you dropped to a busybox shell when you boot?
[03:43] <Hermes1111> lol
[03:43] <berto-> Jordan_U: yeah, initramfs.
[03:44] <Jordan_U> berto-: Try running "btrfs device scan" then just exit the shell. If that works, then you can probably automatically fix your initramfs to do it automatically with update-initramfs.
[03:45] <berto-> Jordan_U: rebooting … 1 sec.
[03:45] <Jordan_U> berto-: If I recall correctly, "update-initramfs -k all", but since I don't have an Ubuntu machine handy at the moment you should confirm that with "man update-initramfs".
[03:46] <Meris> Hermes1111, another try, do you find a category System Settings => keyboard =>  shortcuts => windows? That one should contain all shortcuts for window manipulation, including the Ctrl + Alt that you are trying to disable
[03:47] <Jordan_U> berto-: If just running "btrfs device scan" and exiting doesn't work (but btrfs device scan is available and appears to work) you may need to mount your root fs to /root/ before exiting the shell.
[03:47] <berto-> Jordan_U: the command in the initramfs shell appears to be "btrfsctl -a"
[03:48] <berto-> the help for -a says: scans all devices for Btrfs filesystems
[03:48] <Meris> Does anyone know how to restore your Desktop folder along with it's functionality after having deleted it by accident?
[03:48] <Hermes1111> Meris, I do not see ctrl + alt in there
[03:49] <Hermes1111> Meris, does a specific one for you have ctrl + alt assigned there?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> berto-: I think that's because you're using an old version of btrfs progs. For using btrfs it's practically essential that you use at least the latest stable linux kernel (not just the one in the Ubuntu repositories), and it's important (though not as critical) to install the latest btrfs progs as well.
[03:49] <Meris> Hermes1111, as I told you before, I don't use unity, so I wouldn't know.
[03:50] <berto-> Jordan_U: yeah, i am using 3.9-rc8
[03:50] <Hermes1111> Meris, I'm going to just disable all my ctrl + alt ones, see if that works lol
[03:51] <berto-> and i rebuilt btrfs-progs, though I'm not sure i installed it properly.  i ran `make` and then `make install prefix=/usr bindir=/sbin`
[03:51] <Meris> Hermes, do you get a dash or a HUD when using Ctrl + Alt, or does it just resize your window for you?
[03:52] <Meris> Hermes1111, ^
[03:52] <mobodo> anyone knows what cwo is and in which package it can be found?
[03:52] <Hermes1111> it just resizes the window
[03:53] <Hermes1111> Meris
[03:53] <b4ulook4me> Hello Dear all
[03:53] <b4ulook4me> Good morning
[03:54] <mobodo> when I press "tab" on the terminal, I get a an error: "No command 'cwo' found, did you mean:", I've never heard of cwo before… :-/
[03:54] <b4ulook4me> Need Help, Installed 13.04 - via usb disk
[03:54] <b4ulook4me> have nvidia GT610
[03:54] <Meris> Hermes1111, how does it look, do you get a cross cursor, does your window become full screen, is it restored to it's previous size, or does it minimize the screen?
[03:54] <b4ulook4me> when I reboot, it hangs
[03:55] <b4ulook4me> hi mobodo, try env cmd and check which shell it is?
[03:55] <b4ulook4me> shell=/bin/bash
[03:55] <mobodo> b4ulook4me: I'm using bash
[03:56] <b4ulook4me> then tab will worl
[03:56] <b4ulook4me> work
[03:56] <b4ulook4me> hmm
[03:56] <b4ulook4me> what does google say?
[03:56] <mobodo> b4ulook4me: it's clueless, I also search the ubuntu packages for cwo to no avail
[03:56] <berto-> Jordan_U: i mounted the subvolume @ to /root and exited, but it failed with a call trace.
[03:56] <berto-> … going to try without mounting /root
[03:57] <Hermes1111> Meris, the first time I hit ctrl+alt it fits the in window mode to the whole top half of the width of my monitor, second time it shrinks that half -> <- to about 3/4 the width, third to 2/4 the width, fourth time to 1/4 the width, 5th time back to full width
[03:58] <Hermes1111> Meris, it fits the window in window mode***
[03:58] <b4ulook4me> mobodo:http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/tgif.1.html
[03:58] <Hermes1111> Meris, this does it for any program I have open
[03:58] <Meris> Hermes, so in effect it cycles through the different window alignments that unity offers.
[03:58] <kittypride> Testing http://j.gs/23hm
[03:59] <Hermes1111> Meris, yes, but with it fit to the top half of the screen only
[03:59] <sonofzeus> I edited something in terminal usin nano How shall i save it?
[03:59] <researcher123> my browser suddenly started opening quite slowly
[03:59] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[04:00] <mobodo> b4ulook4me: I'm giving it a try, thanks - it could be missing the executable and barfing on the argument
[04:00] <b4ulook4me> hmm
[04:00] <Hermes1111> sonofzeus, brother, zeus is my father as well :p
[04:01] <mobodo> b4ulook4me: nope :( but thanks for trying :)
[04:01] <Meris> Hermes1111, can you try *adding* a new shortcut to keyboard => shortcuts => window? Maybe you can override it that way?
[04:01] <b4ulook4me> mobodo: try these 1. cd / 2. find . -type f -name "bash" -noprint
[04:01] <Hermes1111> Meris, good idea, i'll try that
[04:01] <b4ulook4me> nvidia hdmi out 13.04 hanging after install
[04:01] <b4ulook4me> help
[04:01] <b4ulook4me> nvidia hdmi out 13.04 hanging after install
[04:02] <dank101> Stop spamming
[04:02] <dank101> and we may help you
[04:02] <Meris> !patience | b4ulook4me
[04:03] <b4ulook4me> Thanks guys..sorry 4 being so impatient been trying this since 12.04, 12.10 and now 13.04
[04:03] <b4ulook4me> regards..
[04:03] <dank101> no
[04:03] <Hermes1111> Meris, I have tried this before and I forgot about this little piece of info; when I try to do that it wont even let me set a ctrl + alt hotkey...
[04:03] <b4ulook4me> talk laterz bye all...
[04:03] <dank101> we can help
[04:03] <dank101> we need a more bigger descripption
[04:03] <b4ulook4me> how can i boot in cmd at booting
[04:03] <Hermes1111> Meris, I can do ctrl + alt + other letters but not what I need =X
[04:03] <bazhang> !nox | b4ulook4me
[04:04] <b4ulook4me> Thanks guys...regards will try...bye 4 now...
[04:05] <Hermes1111> Meris, I'll see if I can install any other programs for setting up hotkeys (if you know of one let me know), and maybe I can disable or override it through a diff program
[04:05] <Meris> Hermes1111, what I meant is this: Do you find any *description* in that list that might fit with the behaviour of Ctrl + Alt that you have experienced?
[04:06] <sonofzeus> How shall I save a file in nano? Anyone?
[04:06] <sonofzeus> I edited the file and now I wanna save it how?
[04:06] <Meris> Hermes1111, Ok, I'm going to restart my session in Unity. Maybe I can help you out. brb
[04:07] <KidBeta> im seeing two files called . and .. in a directory im trying to read files from but they arent visible in the GUI . any ideas.
[04:08] <pmantis> KidBeta, . = current directory, .. = 1 directory higher. That's ok.
[04:08] <KidBeta> okay
[04:08] <KidBeta> cool
[04:08] <Meris> Hermes1111, I'm back, thiws time in Unity, let'see...
[04:08] <Hermes1111> Meris, I've checked all the options in that menu, even tried out all the ones that were similiar
[04:09] <Hermes1111> Meris, there is no option in there that does what the hotkey does
[04:12] <Meris> Hermes1111, when I (on 12.04) use Ctrl + Alt with an arrow key, I will switch between desktops. I am afraid that this quirky behaviour might be unique for 11.10
[04:13] <Hermes1111> Meris, I believe you're right. Kbentley said that it didn't do that on his newer version of ubuntu
[04:13] <kaushal> Hi
[04:13] <kaushal> Does 13.04 has unity lens for pidgin?
[04:13] <Hermes1111> Meris, worse comes to worst I'll upgrade my ubuntu (i am long overdue anyways)
[04:14] <Hermes1111> Meris, I'm installing compiz config manager; i'll see if I can have any luck using that program
[04:14] <MrGizmo757> i keep hasving Kernel panics in 13.04  and my Battery indicator in the upper panel seems to be broken.  anybody else having these issues?
[04:14] <Meris> I'm seeing all the content of my homedrive on my desktop instead of the contents of my Desktop (Bureaublad in my case). Can anyone help me to link the contents that I see on my desktop back to my Bureaublad folder, which resides in /home/$USER/Documents ? ?
[04:15] <Meris> homedrive => homedir
[04:16] <Meris> I see the contents of /home/$USER on my desktop instead of /home/$USER/Bureaublad (which means Desktop in my language)
[04:16] <swan1> Hello.  I am running mythbuntu 12.04.2, w/mythtv .26 and have configured audio so that it is sent to my tv via HDMI. Unfortunately, if I leave the system idle for a while (>1h) audio no longer works.  If I reboot, it works again.  How do I 1) Turn off the power saving (mis)feature and 2) fix the audio issue?  I have also disabled screen blanking, so I don't think that is involved.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> kaushal, http://www.iloveubuntu.net/unity-pidgin-lens-released-ppa-available
[04:19] <Meris> Hermes, can you pastebin a screenshot of your keyboard => shortcuts => window on pastepic.com and give me the URL to it?
[04:19] <benno123> how can i use PGP signature in my email?
[04:19] <pmantis> benno123,  What email client?
[04:20] <benno123> thunderbird?
[04:20] <Meris> benno123, are you using Thunderbird? If so, there are quite a few extensions that will do that
[04:20] <Meris> Hermes1111, sorry, picpaste.com
[04:21] <benno123> Meris:can i use it directly,in web browser ?
[04:21] <pmantis> benno123, I'd recommend enigmail for Thunderbird. Google & youtube have lots of instructions for configuring them.
[04:22] <Meris> benno123, there may be an extension for firefox that does that, but I would be quite surprised.
[04:23] <root> hi
[04:23] <root> hello
[04:24] <benno123> Meris:so what do i want to do to get PGP signature in my email?
[04:24] <pmantis> benno123, Install enigmail, add extention to Thunderbird, configure it with your key.
[04:25] <Meris> Hermes1111, benno123 , sorry, but I have to catch some Zzzz's. It's 6:23AM in the morning here and I haven't slept this night. I'm getting kinda woozy, which should not come as a surprise...
[04:29] <Meris> Going to the halls of Morphos...(hitting the hay, cataching some Zzz's, etc...)
[04:29] <kaushal> Hi
[04:29] <kaushal> wilee-nilee: hi again
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> hi
[04:30] <kaushal> wilee-nilee: I am facing this issue -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5610993/
[04:30] <kaushal> wilee-nilee: any clue?
[04:34] <IdleOne> kaushal: are you on 13.04 raring?
[04:34] <kaushal> IdleOne: yes
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> kaushal,  I see only unity-lens-pidgin in the ppa up to quantal
[04:34] <kaushal> wilee-nilee: oh ok :/
[04:34] <IdleOne> kaushal: there is no unity-lens-pidgin for raring in that PPA
[04:35] <kaushal> ok
[04:35] <kaushal> :/
[04:35] <kaushal> IdleOne: any alternative?
[04:36] <IdleOne> kaushal: not that I know fo
[04:36] <IdleOne> of*
[04:37] <kaushal> IdleOne: is it a good proposition to use 13.04 now or should i have upgraded it one month later?
[04:38] <SonikkuAmerica> kaushal: It's perfectly safe to use now...
[04:38] <kaushal> SonikkuAmerica: ok
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !apt > lotuspsychje
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> wich channel can i sugest new trigger for #ubuntu?
[04:53] <Faek> I was told there would be constant talking here
[04:54] <Faek> Someone lied to me
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Faek: just ask your question mate
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Faek: this is a support channel
[04:55] <histo> Faek: there is constant talking
[04:57] <Ironsight> Is there a way to install ubuntu on a macbook pro retina?
[04:57] <DavidScherer> Okay, I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04 and can't seem to use Unity?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !mac | Ironsight
[04:57] <Ironsight> ty
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !details | DavidScherer
[04:57] <Faek> Oh i dont have a question. My IRC client is just dodgy and doesnt tell me when it disconnects, hence a channel with heaps of talking
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> Faek: wich client are you on?
[04:58] <atrus> !error | DavidScherer
[04:58] <atrus> !broken | DavidScherer
[04:59] <LifeIsPain> Faek: there is constant join/parting in here though, you can check time stamps of those
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> DavidScherer, Did you get it working in 12.10 before you upgraded to 13.04?
[04:59] <Faek> True,
[04:59] <DavidScherer> wilee-nilee: Kinda, in Gnome (2-ish it looks like)
[05:00] <DavidScherer> And it still works in Gnome.
[05:00] <DavidScherer> It just looks...dated.
[05:00] <LifeIsPain> Faek: but still, which client?
[05:00] <DavidScherer> Nothing like Gnome 3 or unity.
[05:00] <Faek> IRC999 on iOS
[05:00]  * LifeIsPain has a vested interest in one client in terms of if it isn't reporting correctly
[05:00] <LifeIsPain> and nope, not it
[05:01] <Faek> Didnt think it would be lol
[05:01]  * LifeIsPain 's client won't ever be ported to iOS
[05:01] <LifeIsPain> way too much effort to port it
[05:02] <DavidScherer> Would a pastebin of my xorg log be useful?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: any information we can use would be usefull
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: clean install or upgrade? did you check additional drivers? did unity work on previous?
[05:05] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: Upgrade. No, where's that, and Yes.
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: check software centre/sources/tab addiotnal drivers for your grafix card driver
[05:06] <DavidScherer> I don't see a sources tab,
[05:07] <DavidScherer> FOund it I think
[05:08] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: It says no proprietary drivers are in use.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: anything in list you can switch from grafix card?
[05:09] <DavidScherer> It's blank.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> right
[05:10] <DavidScherer> Should I re-enable the sources the upgrade disabled?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: i would try a clean install myself, see if it sorts unity
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> many upgrades have left-overs from previous
[05:12] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: I'm really not looking forward to having to copy everything to my external for a clean install. :(
[05:15] <benno123> how do i add my own pgp signature in mail.ru?
[05:16] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: Also xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/2368663
[05:20] <Guest54272> I'm getting a purple screen when booting on 12.04 after installing from a Bootable flash drive, anybody know how to fix this?
[05:22] <sampath> hi
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest54272, Did you install from the live desktop?
[05:24] <Guest54272> I beleive that I did though im not sure, sorry kind of new to linux
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Guest54272
[05:25] <Guest54272> ok thanks a million!
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest54272, Try the adding of nomodeset in the grub menu at boot, it may be that you need a graphics driver.
[05:26] <DavidScherer> Sound works in webchat, but not on YouTube. :(
[05:26] <DavidScherer> I should have stayed at 12.04
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: like i told you, a clean install can sort a lot
[05:30] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: Is there any other option?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: there always is but how deep you want to dig
[05:31] <Baylor> Is it possible to install the desktop edition with netinstall over wifi?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: if you re-ask your question in channel once in a while, someone will find whats wrong
[05:32] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: I mean, if it's as simple as few commands to figure out what's missing, I can handle that.
[05:32] <DavidScherer> I can't seem to find any options for paid desktop support from Cononical aside from Landscape support.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: we need to findout whats wrong first, try to gather as much details as possible
[05:33] <DavidScherer> I don't know what details to gather.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: try /var/log/syslog maybe to check for errors
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: grafix card brand + driver currently loaded would be usefull too
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> DavidScherer: if you pastebin this info and re-ask in channel that your unity got broke, someone will help for sure
[05:35] <hackoo> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop 64 bit on my HP Probook laptop and now Windows is not booting even after having entry in grub2.
[05:35] <DavidScherer> lotuspsychje: HOw do I find that?
[05:35] <mohsen-rashidi> hello every one.i have a problem with Ubuntu One.i had uploaded some folders and now i want to remove them from my account but i don`t know how to do it.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> hackoo: did you try a update-grub?
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, Did you remove any partitions to install ubuntu?
[05:36] <hackoo> lotuspsychje: yes.. I tried it too
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> hackoo: win7?
[05:36] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: lotuspsychje I am telling you the whole issue, I have files in pastebin
[05:36] <hackoo> lotuspsychje: yes
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | hackoo
[05:36] <hackoo> lotuspsychje: I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop 64 bit on my HP Probook laptop, I wanted to make this dual boot as it's an official laptop and already have Windows 7 installed. Before installation it was having 3 primary partitions, one for where windows files were kept other where my data was stored and third was an small size partition but I dont know what is had may it was having boot loader as I could see this small partition as /dev/sda1 whil
[05:37] <hackoo> lotuspsychje: wilee-nilee: Before starting installation I created another logical partition by shrinking the biggest data partition then I used live Ubuntu USB drive for installation. While installation I saw something weird like option to select bootloader partition was showing me /dev/sda1 (loader) and /dev/sdb but not /dev/sda. I proceed with selecting /dev/sda1 and completed installation. After successful complete installtion I saw the grub2 boot 
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, Did you remove sda1?
[05:37] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: no I didn't removed that
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> hackoo,But you had grub installed there?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> hackoo: i would loose the win7 for good and full install 13.04
[05:38] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: lousygarua: see this is the current status of grub.cfg and fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/5611071/
[05:39] <angelazou> is there a sample script that allows me to create a post-receive git hook on ubuntu?
[05:39] <crper> ...........
[05:39] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: no earlier there was no grub.. it was having win 7 bootloader I think.
[05:39] <crper> Hello ,every body
[05:40] <PrincessLuna> My touchpad has the lower buttons directly under the touchpad surface so you press down a touch sensitive area. When I right click using the button in Linux, it registers a small movement as a I press down which is annoying. Any ideas?
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, Install this app in ubuntu, and run only the bootinfo summary, from your description it sounds like you put grub in the W7 boot partition, this can be fixed, however we need to see if this is the case with this app. Post the url it generates with the summary. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:41] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: ok. Thanks
[05:42] <mohsen-rashidi> Hello everyone.I have problem with Ubuntu One.I used to upload some folders on my account and now i want to remove them, but i don`t know how.Please help me.
[05:43] <PrincessLuna> mohsen-rashidi: Try the web interface
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> mohsen-rashidi, Isn't ubuntu one like other cloud storage removing it locally does it.
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> !cookie | lotuspsychje
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> lol remove windows
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:44] <mohsen-rashidi> PrincessLuna: I had tried that too, but i didn`t see any buttonor something like that for removing
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: alot of alternate packages out there that can replace win
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, I know, I just thought it was a funny response.
[05:45] <mohsen-rashidi> wilee-nilee: You mean i should remove them from my Home folder?
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> mohsen-rashidi, The ubuntu one folder where they are.
[05:47] <pentanol> there anyone use svn server really frequent? I need suggestion for chose something between VisualSVN , CollabNet  or UberSVN ?
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> mohsen-rashidi, I use dropbox it has a folder where you store stuff, I assume ubuntu one has a folder you add to.
[05:47] <mohsen-rashidi> wilee-nilee: Ok...i get it.Thanks.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> cool
[05:49] <SkinnyV> Hi guys, anybody could help me, I'm trying to connect with x2go
[05:49] <SkinnyV> I think I installed it correctly but I'm not sure which desktop environment I am using
[05:50] <SkinnyV> I tried to find a command to check this over SSH but all the one I found on google didnt work for me
[05:54] <SkinnyV> anyone can help?
[05:56] <gios> antonacci
[05:57] <gios> !list
[05:58] <Cyris> hey dudes
[05:58] <alphaZero> hi guys
[05:58] <Cyris> whatsup alpha
[05:58] <phate_psyco> good morning
[05:58] <Cyris> im a complete newbie to ubuntu so bare with me all
[05:58] <alphaZero> chilling, you?
[05:59] <Cyris> trying not to screw up my OS haha
[05:59] <Cyris> already had to reinstall because i did the wrong "sudo" command haha
[05:59] <alphaZero> which one did you do?
[05:59] <SkinnyV> Anyone know a command that could tell me which desktop I'm using on my ubuntu 12.04 server?
[05:59] <Cyris> dont even remember this was like 7 hours ago
[06:00] <Cyris> i figured it was easier just to start frorm scratch than trying to figure out where i went wrong. it made my terminal go blank and i couldnt do any commands
[06:00] <Jordan_U> SkinnyV: Ubuntu Server doesn't have any "Desktop" installed by default...
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> SkinnyV: what do you mean by desktop?
[06:00] <qin> Cyris: man history; man man; You know of virtual systems, or live for that matter?
[06:01] <SkinnyV> i mean, Gnome, KDE, Unity etc
[06:01] <Cyris> @qin no
[06:01] <Cyris> jesus, i cant even IRC.... its been years
[06:01] <SkinnyV> i just installed x2go and trying to connect but need to know which I am using
[06:03] <qin> Cyris: if you like to experiment, virtualbox would be very handy.
[06:03] <Cyris> quin: what is the basic idea of the program?
[06:04] <aeon-ltd> SkinnyV: it's been a while since i used anything like rdp/vnc, but i think you need to be running X then a desktop environment
[06:04] <Cyris> googling it now
[06:04] <qin> Cyris: it let you run virtual system from image "embedded" into real one, great for making mistakes
[06:06] <Cyris> qin: so basically i can try commands before i use them on my OS for real
[06:09] <qin> Cyris: yup.
[06:09] <Cyris> qin: okay cool i am going to read up on it a bit while installing
[06:10] <zampouras> hello! I have a problem with my webcam on an acer aspire one, it does not work with cheese or skype. any suggestions?
[06:11] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: Hey. I installed app and ran the bootinfo summery. Please see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5611157/
[06:11] <DRatJr> Could someone assist me on removing Ubuntu from boot options, removing grub, and fixing MBR?
[06:12] <PeoplesAdvocate> Okay, I'm still a little confused about installing Ubuntu in UEFI. I recently bought a HP laptop with Windows 8. I want to keep it and I have been reading the documentation on the Ubuntu website about installing Ubuntu in UEFI. I am still a little confused on how to go on about doing this. Currently I have a 400mb Recovery Partition; 260mb EFI System Partition; 568.21gb NTFS (C:); 27.19gb Recovery (D:). Can someone point me in the r
[06:12] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: So you have Windows and Ubuntu in a dual boot, and you just want to have Windows boot with no option for Ubuntu?
[06:13] <qin> DRatJr: I suspect you need MS (?) resque disk or installation one
[06:13] <belak51> Is there a good way to install Chrome on Ubuntu 13.04? I keep getting an error about a missing libudev0 or something
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, Yeah you put grub in the windows boot partition this link will tell you the fix. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[06:14] <DRatJr> Qin, I have done the /fixmbr command, deleted it in easybcd, and other options. but nothing
[06:14] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Did you install Ubuntu via Wubi?
[06:15] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: I appreciate your help. I am going through that link, btw can't I repair this using the same boot-repair tool as it have an option to do so.
[06:15] <DRatJr> No, I installed alongside. I have since deleted and merged the partition.
[06:15] <DRatJr> I did the uninstall I found on the site
[06:15] <DRatJr> But it didn't remove ubuntu from my menu
[06:15] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | DRatJr
[06:15] <DRatJr> and when I run automatic repair from recovery usb, it says it cant fix it
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, I don't use the tool, I'm not sure if t has an option for this situation, look in the sda1 partition in your link and you see grub there.
[06:16] <DRatJr> I have posted those on the ubuntu forums, no one seems to be able to help
[06:16] <PeoplesAdvocate> @belak51: check this site here. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html
[06:16] <DRatJr> Should I just run and paste back here?
[06:16] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: yes.
[06:16] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: No.
[06:16] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | DRatJr
[06:17] <DRatJr> What? I just asked if I should run bootinfo and post link in here?
[06:17] <DRatJr> And you said no then pastebin?
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, If you are sure go for it. The link we used before the bootrepair app was bult.
[06:18] <DRatJr> I will brb. I will get boot info script
[06:18] <DRatJr> Damn. Now I have to switch my windows recovery usb to a live usb for ubuntu.... OMG
[06:19] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: Not sure if the option is for my specific case or its for some general issue, First I am going through the link you provided and if I don't understand that then I'll go with the tool.
[06:20] <jjin082693> hi guys, having some difficulty installing ubuntu 13.04 and was wondering if anyone could give some guidance
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> hackoo, You just use testdisk, however it does show a use from a windows recovery or install disc. I have people just manualy delete the gub files in the partition as well.
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> grub*
[06:22] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: I am doing test disk, I don't have a Windows recovery disk. Actually it's my official laptop with Windows installed, I like working on Linux so I installed Ubuntu on dual boot. Now I am unable to use several official apps like webex and all.
[06:23] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: running test disk
[06:24] <pentanol> here anyone fine with svn's?
[06:25] <testtesttest> who testtesttest
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> jjin082693, For help tell the channel you problems, not me in particular.
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> your*
[06:27] <testtesttest> whois
[06:28] <Cyris> qin: downloaded virtual box, but it is now 2:30 am so i am going to head to bed. i will be back on tomorrow to mess around with it and use this channel for FAQ's. thanks dude
[06:28] <Cyris> goodnight all
[06:29] <jjin082693> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 as a dual-boot on a windows 8 machine. I'm able to get up to the screen where I can select to install ubuntu (as opposed to try it), after which the screen goes black; but i can hear the notification sound indicating that the setup window's popped up. plus i can hear the feedback when i change volume.
[06:29] <jjin082693> anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[06:29] <qin> Cyris: night
[06:29] <jjin082693> i've tried setting nomodeset, which made it able to display video except in three TINY "windows" along the top of my display
[06:30] <Jordan_U> jjin082693: Does the same thing happen if you chose "Try Ubuntu" and then select the installer afterward?
[06:31] <cotton-gnome> when installing ubuntu-gnome i want to do whole disk encryption when i select the default settings for install /w encryption it tries to install the grub to sda1 but i need it on sdc where i am installing ubuntu/ also dual booting windows on drive sdb
[06:31] <cotton-gnome> grub install fails
[06:32] <KyeRussell> iirc you'd need grub on sda1 in that setup?
[06:32] <jjin082693> when i choose "try ubuntu" i get the black screen, except with no notification sound and no feedback when i change volume
[06:32] <Jordan_U> cotton-gnome: If you use manual partitioning it should allow you to select where grub's boot sector should be installed, though I haven't tested 13.04's installer yet. Also, it doesn't ever default to installing grub's boot sector to a partition, as that's just wrong.
[06:36] <DRatJr> Anyone see that?
[06:37] <DRatJr> Here is my boot info script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5611202/
[06:37] <DRatJr> I believe qin was helping me?
[06:37] <cotton-gnome> no it asked what drive to install too i selected sdc and when it was installing the grub the message said that "installing grub sda failed", when i selected install w/o grub program locked had to reboot looking at the drive i see 2 partitons one at 254 mb and the other has the rest of the space i put the /boot to the 254 mb drive? and encrypt the rest as a psychical drive
[06:38] <Jordan_U> cotton-gnome: Is your boot firmware UEFI or BIOS based?
[06:39] <DRatJr> UEFI
[06:39] <DRatJr> oh nvm
[06:39] <DRatJr> not me
[06:39] <nethunte2> Guys, how do I change the uspalsh screen for Ubuntu 13.04?
[06:39] <cotton-gnome> bios
[06:39] <DRatJr> And now I play the waiting game
[06:40] <cotton-gnome> i am using ubuntu-gnome as its the only one on my usb that the key board works in
[06:41] <DRatJr> Could anyone assist me?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Are you still booted into the Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[06:41] <DRatJr> Yes
[06:43] <nethunte2> After upgrading to 13.04, my boot screen shows "Kubuntu" instead of "Ubuntu".
[06:43] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[06:43] <DRatJr> what are the commands to install that?
[06:43] <DRatJr> dont have it right now
[06:45] <jjin082693> anyone?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: What version of Ubuntu did you put on the USB drive?
[06:48] <DRatJr> BootCurrent: 0003 Timeout: 0 seconds BootOrder: 0001,0004,0003,0000 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager Boot0003* UEFI: PNY USB 2.0 FD 1100 Boot0004* ubuntu
[06:48] <DRatJr> thats what I get
[06:48] <DRatJr>  install
[06:48] <DRatJr> trying to remove 12.04
[06:49] <helmut_> hi
[06:51] <DRatJr> So...what now?
[06:52] <DRatJr> Jordan_U ?
[06:53] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: run "sudo efibootmgr -b 4 -B"
[06:54] <DRatJr> i have already done that
[06:54] <DRatJr> it does not stick after reboot
[06:54] <DRatJr> it shows after I reboot. In windows and in linux
[06:55] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: What is the output of "sudo efibootmgr" after running "sudo efibootmgr -b 4 -B"?
[06:56] <DRatJr> it shows it as deleted
[06:56] <callipygous> How do I boot in to recover/single user mode?  They told me to hold down shift or press esc key but neither is working. :(
[06:56] <callipygous> I'm running LTS 12.04
[06:56] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Please post the complet output.
[06:56] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: it shows it as deleted, but it will reappear after reboot. I have done this before
[06:57] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: BootCurrent: 0003 Timeout: 0 seconds BootOrder: 0001,0004,0003,0000 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager Boot0003* UEFI: PNY USB 2.0 FD 1100
[06:57] <needhelpASAP> is there anyone online at the moment that can assist me?
[06:58] <needhelpASAP> I'm struggling to fix some issues
[06:58] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Please run "sudo efibootmgr -o 1,3,0"
[06:59] <needhelpASAP> .... :( :'( anyone?
[06:59] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: what will that do?
[06:59] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: just wondering before I do it
[06:59] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Remove entry number 4 from the boot order (by setting the boot order to entry 1, then 3, then 0 rather than the current 1,4,3,0).
[07:00] <needhelpASAP> Jordan U can you give me some advice real quick?
[07:00] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: ok done it. Now what? sudo efibootmgr again?
[07:00] <cotton-gnome> needhelpasap:http://bit.ly/d7z6T
[07:00] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: output: BootCurrent: 0003 Timeout: 0 seconds BootOrder: 0001,0004,0003,0000 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager Boot0003* UEFI: PNY USB 2.0 FD 1100
[07:01] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: it didnt remove it from the entry
[07:01] <callipygous> How do I get in to my boot loader with LTS 12.04?
[07:01] <callipygous> Does LTS 12.04 even have a boot loader?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> callipygous: Yes.
[07:01] <callipygous> Nothing seems to work - holding down shift or alt or escape doesn't do a thing
[07:01] <Hermes1111> i need some serious help
[07:02] <Hermes1111> can i modify unity 3d from 2d
[07:02] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Try "sudo efibootmgr -O" as a test (should remove the boot order completely, and then maybe we'll be able to set it afterward).
[07:03] <needhelpASAP> Anyone here? I need some help solving this issue.
[07:03] <callipygous> So how do I get in to my botloader?
[07:03] <callipygous> bootloader
[07:03] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: It did. Now what?
[07:03] <hackoo> wilee-nilee: Hey.. that testdisk worked. I am able to boot Windows now. Thanks a lot.
[07:03] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: Now run this: sudo efibootmgr -o 1,3,0 ?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: First check efibootmgr output to confirm that something has changed.
[07:04] <needhelpASAP> wilee nilee... can you help?
[07:05] <needhelpASAP> I might be having the same issue
[07:05] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: output is: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo efibootmgr BootCurrent: 0003 Timeout: 0 seconds Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager Boot0003* UEFI: PNY USB 2.0 FD 1100
[07:05] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Good. Now yes, "sudo efibootmgr -o 1,3,0"
[07:06] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: Nope. This is output: BootCurrent: 0003 Timeout: 0 seconds Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager Boot0003* UEFI: PNY USB 2.0 FD 1100
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> needhelpASAP, I haven't seen a description of your problem the channel needs this.
[07:06] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: Did I just make nothing bootable now...?!
[07:07] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: I don't think so, because BootCurrent still has a value.
[07:07] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: So now what?
[07:07] <vipzrx> hello
[07:08] <Abortica> i have 60gb of unallocated space on my drive and after using gparted to make it a partition, i can't figure out how to take ownership of it so i can use virtualbox to install a OS to it
[07:09] <needlatehelpasap> I need some help if someone can take 5-10 mins to help me get it running correct?
[07:10] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: >
[07:10] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: ?*
[07:11] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: I don't know, but I'm trying to find out.
[07:11] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: I feel like I just screwed myself...
[07:11] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: My guess is that if you rebooted now, you would be taken to the UEFI setup screens.
[07:11] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: Which would allow me to boot to windows or what?
[07:12] <needlatehelpasap> @Jordan U...can you help?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: If that's the case, then it's me that actually got you into this position, which means that I won't leave until I've done everything I can to get you back to a working configuration.
[07:13] <hackoo> hey why ubuntu 12.10 is supported longer than 13.04
[07:13] <DRatJr> Jordan_U: Can we take this into private? I'm kinda bugging out right now
[07:13] <hackoo> even when 12.10 is not an LTS
[07:13] <jrib> hackoo: because there was a change made to support lengths
[07:13] <cotton-gnome> hackoo they changed the release schedule
[07:14] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: Sure.
[07:14] <hackoo> cotton-gnome: ok got it.
[07:15] <needlatehelpasap> can anyone online spare 10 mins?
[07:15] <cotton-gnome> needlatehelpasap: http://bit.ly/d7z6T
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> !details | needlatehelpasap
[07:16] <needlatehelpasap> sorry cotton gnome..little drunk and haven't recieved help I can understand yet,
[07:16] <needlatehelpasap> the following are the details..
[07:16] <needlatehelpasap> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139716
[07:17] <hackoo> :D
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> needlatehelpasap, The person helping you in that thread is about your best help, stick with them. ;)
[07:20] <needlatehelpasap> ok...thanks wilee.. guess I'll wait till tomorrow
[07:26] <cotton-gnome> when doing whole disk encryption do i make a small ~260mb /boot partition and the rest physical disk for encryption
[07:28] <cotton-gnome> i cannot change the rest of the drive now
[07:30] <davi-pol> can someone tell me where i can update plaonlinux
[07:30] <davi-pol> hello?
[07:36] <FreeCzechnya> would like to increase the time it takes for my screen to dim on my laptop. any ideas?
[07:36] <kaushal> Hi
[07:37] <kaushal> Mobile broadband doesnot do "automatically connect to the network when it is available" inspite of enabling checkbox in Network Connections. Any clue?
[07:37] <SierraAR> FreeCzechnya: This is off of memory, but I'm pretty sure there's an option for that in the 'power options' section of the settings window.
[07:38] <jonuts> since upgrading to raring, notify-osd just creates an unstyled blue bar on the top left of my screen. has anyone encountered this?
[07:40] <anti_> Hello
[07:41] <anti_> How can I discover of a specific package whether it came from Debian Testing or Debian Unstable?
[07:42] <kostkon_> anti_: apt-cache policy package_name
[07:42] <mojogaga> Hello. New user, with what I imagine is a silly question. Is there any way to go directly back to the bootloader without having to do another BIOS check?
[07:43] <anti_> kostkon that tells me which Ubuntu repos it came from, but I want to know from which Debian repos the Ubuntu developers took it in the first place
[07:44] <kostkon_> anti_: oh ok, misunderstood the question
[07:44] <ChemicalToilet> qjackctl keeps freezing only option to force quit any way to solve 11.10
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> mojogaga, Why would you have to do a bios check/
[07:44] <ChemicalToilet> better yet, any way to access config file, static settings mking it freeze no way to recover
[07:44] <heneusl_pay> What is the "Super" key when described in keyboard shortcut combinations such as inverting colors of the currently focused window, Super + n.
[07:45] <kostkon_> heneusl_pay: the windows key
[07:46] <heneusl_pay> kostkon_: And do you know how to enable desktop effects under Ubuntu 12?
[07:47] <ChemicalToilet> I just need to import flac to ardour for spectrum analysis need output
[07:47] <ChemicalToilet> I hav flac in ardour no audoi out with jackd
[07:47] <mojogaga> wilee-nilee: In a dual-boot situation, I want to be able to swap between the two without doing a restart. Is that already readily available?
[07:47] <mojogaga> (Full system restart, I mean, hence the BIOS check)
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> mojogaga, Different HD's?
[07:48] <cotton-gnome> i got error ??? ??? message ??? ???
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> mojogaga, You have to reboot to get one or the other, unless one is in a virtual.
[07:49] <kostkon_> heneusl_pay: you need to install the compiz config manager if you want to add more effects, i.e. activate extra compiz plugins
[07:51] <ChemicalToilet> heneusl_pay what is your hardware for vid is it a radeon?
[07:52] <heneusl_pay> kostkon_: Super + n is not inverting colors and the config package apt says is replaced by compizcore ChemicalToilet I think this system runs some intel chip. Double checking system info.
[07:53] <heneusl_pay> It says, driver: unknown. ChemicalToilet
[07:53] <ChemicalToilet> did you make sure your not blacklistyed?
[07:53] <ChemicalToilet> is that under lspci?
[07:53] <mojogaga> wilee-nilee: Same HD, diff partitions. And alright, that's what I thought, wasn't sure about the technical side of things. Would just be nice to shave 10+ seconds off swapping back to my Windows partition.
[07:54] <mojogaga> Thanks for the response
[07:54] <heneusl_pay> I am running a live CD just to reference documents while configuring anoher machine and there is too much bright white I need a way to invert colors while reading.
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[07:55] <ChemicalToilet> post output
[07:55] <heneusl_pay> Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[07:56] <ChemicalToilet> seriously though, anyont for qjackctl in 11.10, force quit instatly, can anoyone tell where to find the config file so I can delete?
[07:58] <ChemicalToilet> Heneusl_pay try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1922256
[07:58] <marvx> hello
[07:58] <marvx> good morning
[07:58] <ChemicalToilet> qjackctl? 11.10 anyone for a soloution?
[07:59] <ChemicalToilet> Yes or no will do fine, please help
[07:59] <marvx> i have a problem....i installed ubuntu 13.04, but after a few minutes it crashes
[07:59] <heneusl_pay> I just want to invert the colors not play with drivers.
 gnome or unity?
[08:02] <marvx> noone can help?
[08:02] <ChemicalToilet>  Win+M?<heneusl_pay
[08:03] <ChemicalToilet> Join the club marvx I'm just trying to get basic audio fuctions in 11.10
[08:04] <auronandace> ChemicalToilet: just so you know 11.10 support ends on may 9th
[08:05] <ChemicalToilet> well aware, I just need output in ardour for jackd
[08:05] <ChemicalToilet> Also, there are known video issues for my card in 12.04
[08:06] <ChemicalToilet> I'll make manual fixes if I need to for now until that is fixed, I'm not willing to invest more time or money into my needs for a broken os when I have arch on my personal machine if I have to
[08:06] <ranjeet> I get prompted for your "default keyring" password everytime I login after upgrading to 13.04, how do stop this from recurring?
[08:06] <ranjeet> any help much appreciated?
[08:07] <darthanubis> give it the password
[08:07] <ChemicalToilet> I love ubuntu but it's too messy to run with the big dogs, I just need a simple fix, I need to know where the config is for jackd
[08:08] <darthanubis> ChemicalToilet, get jackd suppory
[08:08] <darthanubis> support on their page
[08:08] <captine> hi there.  anyone else have a weird sound when Skype alerts come through on 13.04.  My sounds for skype sound all scratchy... other sounds (music playing etc) all works fine
[08:09] <ChemicalToilet> Seriously, love ubuntu but its like fried eggs on a nail when it comes to stability
[08:09] <ranjeet> I get prompted for your "default keyring" password everytime I login after upgrading to 13.04, how do stop this from recurring?
[08:09] <przemek> ChemicalToilet: thats why i change my default system to Mint
[08:10] <przemek> and i think Mint is much better than Ubuntu
[08:11] <darthanubis> ChemicalToilet, why use it then? I only use what works.
 ubuntu supports more software than arch but arch works period
[08:11] <kiwitinker> I am trying to install a program that says to install I should - make install (as user root) - so to do this would I go - gksudo make install
[08:12] <darthanubis> I can't get inti Mint
[08:12] <martyn> Hi all
[08:12] <darthanubis> whats the point. btw this is allOT
[08:12] <darthanubis> hello
[08:12] <Guest15769> lookinng for some help i have AMD 6960 Grx and i am looking for help isntal;ling drivers on 13.04 X64
[08:13] <ChemicalToilet> That is one of the reasons why I love ubuntu, they arent affraid to take the leap, but nobody knows what is goin on most of the time, I see about 9 out of 10 problems go unsolved for at leat 3 months with debian distros. crux is solid and we take care of problems, the problem there is the limitations
[08:13] <Guest15769> Can any 1 help me
[08:13]  * darthanubis troll
[08:14] <darthanubis> ChemicalTroll, I give you a 3
[08:14] <Gyro54> Hi!
[08:14] <ChemicalToilet> I'm not knocking ubuntu by any means but I cant get anyone to tell me where a simple config file is, even purge the package isnt enough to get it to its original state
[08:15] <kiwitinker> I am trying to install a program that says to install I should - make install (as user root) - so to do this would I go - gksudo make install
[08:15] <stuffedhaggis> Amd drivers any 1
[08:16] <kiwitinker> gksudo to make me user root for this command
[08:16] <Gyro54> After upgrading to 13.04 I have lost the Unity side bar and all menus from 1 of the 2 x users on my machine?
[08:16]  * darthanubis google has all of these answers.
[08:17] <Captain_Crow> does ubuntu work with origin games or only steam games?
[08:20] <ranjeet> I get prompted for your "default keyring" password everytime I login after upgrading to 13.04, how do stop this from recurring?
[08:21] <ranjeet> can someon help me on this issue?
[08:21] <ranjeet> I get prompted for your "default keyring" password everytime I login after upgrading to 13.04, how do stop this from recurring?
[08:22] <KE7CKI> Why should I *not* use a GUI while hosting a server?
[08:23] <heroandtn3> ranjeet: try modify startup applications
[08:23] <heneusl_pay> How do I enable the super + n (invert colors) feature in Ubuntu 12 all of the compiz packages seem installed.
[08:24] <ranjeet> heroandtn3: how would I do that?
[08:26] <heroandtn3> search Startup Application
[08:26] <heroandtn3> then untick items that you want to preven from starting with system
[08:27] <heroandtn3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[08:27] <ranjeet> heroandtn3: would that help me fix the keyring issue at the startup?
[08:27] <ranjeet> let me check
[08:27] <heroandtn3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/69810/how-do-i-add-remove-the-hidden-startup-applications
[08:28] <heroandtn3> I think that (but not sure)
[08:28] <KE7CKI> Does an all-inclusive/exhaustive source for maintaining a SSD for an OS drive exist?
[08:30] <dhiedeaf> hi all, can help me ? i use gmameui, if start gmameui, can i stop repeat loading list game?
[08:30] <ranjeet> heroandtn3: I ran the command and checked with the startup apps and removed an option speaking about the keyring, let me restart to confirm if it is fixed, will join and update you
[08:31] <heroandtn3> ok
[08:32] <ChemicalToilet> I have been an ubuntu user since karmic, I am not trying to be troublesome, I really need to know where the config file for jackd is so I can delete it. My ubuntu forum ID is kylerobhew1 and I have been registered since 2010. I have yet to receive a solution to any error since then without finding my own solution, I am not a troll.
[08:33] <dhiedeaf> hi there... here has anyone tried gmameui?
[08:34] <ChemicalToilet> I am litterally pulling my hari out
[08:34] <IdleOne> ChemicalToilet: try running: whereis jackd
[08:34] <ChemicalToilet> Thank you
[08:38] <Courvix> -
[08:39] <confrey> hi everybody
[08:41] <felicinos> ciauu
[08:41] <dhiedeaf> hi all, u know about gmameui?
[08:41] <felicinos> !list
[08:41] <ChemicalToilet> srsly thank you IdleOne, that saved me.
[08:44] <wizard_A> i'm on wubi ubuntu and want to see my partitions in my hdd, what is the command
[08:46] <confrey> I've installed a 10.04, I need to use it, but my wireless doesn't work; lspci tell me about a bcma and a brcmsmac modules needed by the device
[08:46] <Notimik> anyone here who got gfx bugs with amd prop drivers and dual screen setup?
[08:46] <ranjeet> heroandtn3: thanks bro, it worked for me
[08:46] <ranjeet> I dont see a restart button anymore in 13.04, Is this something you can help me with?
[08:46] <ranjeet> :-)
[08:47] <confrey> I tried to remove the bcma, and to remove and load again the brcmsmac module, but not wireless interface are present with iwconfig
[08:47] <kmilo> HI, Does someone know how can I reduce de CPU fan speed in Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[08:47] <DJones> confrey: Have you tried a more recent version of Ubuntu? 10.04 is about to go end of life on 9th May 2013 (assuming its the desktop version) so after that date, it won't be supported any more
[08:50] <kmilo> HI, Does someone know how can I reduce de CPU fan speed in Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[08:50] <nio707> i need to how to mount the squashfs partition using ubuntu live cd
[08:51] <Jordan_U> nio707: I assume you mean the squashfs file from a LiveCD or LiveCD image?
[08:53] <nio707> Jordan_U i need to mount the squashfs partion of the disk on module . the live cd could detect the partion but when try to mount the partion it fails. is there any patch for the kernel for the squashfs partion
[08:55] <Jordan_U> nio707: "the disk on module"?
[08:56] <nio707> Jordan_U its a small memory disk which acts as a hdd for embebded system . it has 4 partion , with 2 partion of ext2
[08:57] <Jordan_U> nio707: Ahh. What is the device node for this squashfs partition?
[08:58] <nio707> Jordan_U its /dev/hda2
[09:00] <nio707> Jordan_U i tried with slitaz livecd too but when i issue the command say mount /dev/hda2 -t squasfs /home/test/ its give the error cannot find /dev/hda2 . the device node i found is with fdisk command
[09:00] <Jordan_U> nio707: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:01] <nio707> Jordan_U i need to find whether the ubuntu10.0lts kernel has the squashfs module or i have to patch it
[09:02] <Jordan_U> nio707: Ubuntu 12.04's kernel should have sqaushfs support, as you'll see that the LiveCD itself depends on mounting a squashfs image.
[09:03] <nio707> Jordan_U can you tell me the ubuntu 10.04lts kernel version
[09:03] <matthiasba> hi all
[09:04] <Jordan_U> nio707: If you're booted into the LiveCD now, then just run "uname -r", or check packages.ubuntu.com.
[09:04] <vic> hi all
[09:04] <nio707> yeah i know that but right now i am in cyber cafe as i don't have any internet connection at home
[09:05] <Jordan_U> nio707: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" as well as the exact mount command you're trying to run, and it's complete output (when run in the Ubuntu LiveCD).
[09:05] <vic> i want to unlock network locked modem, any help
[09:06] <matthiasba> I seem to have a strange problem. Since updating to 13.04 BIND doesn't work anymore. When i do sudo service bind9 restart it starts working again
[09:06] <matthiasba> I didn't change anything
[09:06] <nio707> Jordan_U The on-disk format of SquashFS has stabilized enough that it has been merged into the 2.6.29 version of the Linux kernel
[09:06] <vic> i want to unlock a network locked modem, any help
[09:06] <Jordan_U> nio707: Did you run "sudo fdisk -l" from the Ubuntu liveCD before trying the mount command, or did you just assume that the device name was the same as in slitaz?
[09:08] <nio707> Jordan_U in ubuntu liveCD gparted is there with the gui i can see the partion
[09:09] <nio707> ok it will take some time now i have bring the whole system to the cyber cafe
[09:09] <nio707> it will take 15 min or so
[09:09] <vic> why does the dash blink when open in 13.04
[09:13] <vic> hi all
[09:14] <vic> why does the dash blink when open in 13.04?
[09:18] <wizard_A> i'm on wubi ubuntu and want to see my partitions in my hdd, what is the command
[09:21] <makoto> anyone encountered any gotchas in 13.04 when using gnome 3?
[09:28] <nyuszika7h> so Ubuntu's Firefox sends data to Mozilla by default? good to know.
[09:29] <nyuszika7h> wizard_A: sudo fdisk -l
[09:29] <nyuszika7h> also, it turns out it's just the crash reporter, nothing else
[09:31] <sveinse> I have a problem with samba on 12.04 which I cant figure. I cant get it to serve a symlinked dir, even despite I have follow symlinks and wide links enabled. It used to work, but it doesnt any more. Any ideas to why?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> sveinse: Is it an absolute symlink or relative?
[09:32] <sveinse> Jordan_U: Absolute. Could that be the case?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> sveinse: I know that with sshfs there is an option to automatically convert absolute symlinks to relative, and if you think about it it makes sense since the root filesystem hierarchy will be different on the client and the server, so absolute symlinks would point to different files.
[09:35] <sveinse> No, that didnt resolve it. Neither abs or rel symlink works. And I do know the permission of both the symlink and the targeted dir to be correct
[09:36] <bittyx-desktop> hi all - i know this might not be the exact place to ask for help, but if you could at least point me in the right direction - i need some advice on searching for certain content in text files. anyone know of a channel appropriate for such questions? sorry again for spamming here about this.
[09:38] <captine> hi all.  Just did a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 on my Acer Aspire.  I am still struggling with the audio when plugging in my Yetti Blue Pro usb mic.
[09:38] <captine> pavucontrol shows the mic as an input, however, the main Ubuntu sound settings do not.  I cannot seem to get the mic input to work
[09:38] <benno123> how do i use my own PGP signature with mail.ru ?
[09:39] <lovethecode> !man grep | bittyx-desktop
[09:40] <lovethecode> !grep | bittyx-desktop
[09:41] <bittyx-desktop> lovethecode: i know, but i have a lot of files within subdirectories, and i only want to search some of them (i know how to find a list of the files i want to search with "find"). how do i tell grep to only search through the files listed by "find"?
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> bittyx-desktop  try this : grep -r "some_text" *
[09:41] <Jordan_U> bittyx-desktop: Try asking in #bash.
[09:42] <bittyx-desktop> MonkeyDust: i want to optimize this, since there are tens of thousands of files, but i'm only interested in less than a hundred of those
[09:42] <bittyx-desktop> Jordan_U: ah, thanks a lot
[09:42] <Jordan_U> bittyx-desktop: You're welcome.
[09:42] <bittyx-desktop> Jordan_U: that's what i needed, i didn't really want to spam this channel with questions that aren't really ubuntu-specific. thanks again.
[09:43] <heneusl_pay> Is there no compiz config package for Ubuntu 12?
[09:43] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[09:43] <lovethecode> grep search-term *.txt
[09:44] <raddy> Wouldn't contacts application show contacts contacts from Google even in Ubuntu 13"
[09:45] <johnsonbill> how much of a performance boost is 13.04?
[09:45] <johnsonbill> from 12.04?
[09:45] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: 1
[09:45] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: +1
[09:45] <lovethecode> Did this answers the question bittyx-desktop?
[09:46] <johnsonbill> bamboobender: it gets your vote?
[09:46] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: no, is "1" better :P
[09:46] <bittyx-desktop> lovethecode: i know how to use grep for basic stuff, but i have a more complicated example. if you want to help, though, come to #bash, since this is not really the appropriate channel for my question.
[09:47] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: but you most likely be lucky in the phoronix website
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> heneusl_pay  there's ompiz-config
[09:47] <johnsonbill> bamboobender: +1  as in googles +1 or like
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> heneusl_pay  there's compiz-config
[09:47] <lovethecode> OK
[09:47] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: phoronix does many benchmarks
[09:50] <raddy> Anybody there?
[09:50] <NvidiaUnityBroke> after installing nvidia-current, all my unity is fscked up and there are no menu bars
[09:50] <NvidiaUnityBroke> i tried all the forum posts to no avail
[09:50] <johnsonbill> bamboobender: I wish they would reformat their site; reading it is like reading a the insert on a medication
[09:50] <raddy> Ubuntu Contacts only have local address book option upon startup
[09:50] <NvidiaUnityBroke> reinstalling linux-headers and removing nvidia* has no effect to fix the issue
[09:50] <NvidiaUnityBroke> ???
[09:50] <NvidiaUnityBroke> Ubuntu sucks
[09:51] <NvidiaUnityBroke> im switching to mac os x
[09:52] <[deXter]> Why did you install the nVidia drivers?
[09:52] <NvidiaUnityBroke> [deXter], maybe because i have an nvidia card?
[09:52] <NvidiaUnityBroke> i dont get the question
[09:52] <NvidiaUnityBroke> i want my HDMI output to work
[09:52] <[deXter]> It should work out of the box
[09:52] <[deXter]> using the included drivers
[09:52] <NvidiaUnityBroke> [deXter], no it does not
[09:53] <[deXter]> installing proprietary drivers is just asking for trouble
[09:53] <NvidiaUnityBroke> [deXter], nouveou does not support HDMI output functionality
[09:53] <[deXter]> and nVidia that too.. is terrible
[09:53] <[deXter]> You can blame nVidia for it not Ubuntu
[09:53] <NvidiaUnityBroke> it used to be the case that ATI was terible
[09:53] <[deXter]> that was many many years ago
[09:53] <Bacon> sup,why can't I chagne screen resolution to lower after I installed nvidia proprietary drivers?
[09:53] <NvidiaUnityBroke> im a 15 year linux user
[09:53] <grutt> what simple  version of ubuntu is good on virtual machine ?
[09:54] <[deXter]> then watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19jUboon5gI
[09:54] <NvidiaUnityBroke> and as fscked up as this ubuntu sh1t is now, im surprised anyone wants to use this OS
[09:54] <NvidiaUnityBroke> so whats the fix for brken unity after nvidia install / removal?
[09:54] <NvidiaUnityBroke> i get no menu bar or dash after login
[09:55] <IRus> NvidiaUnityBroke, fix is install gnome
[09:55] <NvidiaUnityBroke> IRus, thats sound BS
[09:55] <IRus> NvidiaUnityBroke, also u can try "purge" instead of "remove"
[09:55] <NvidiaUnityBroke> IRus, tried to no avail
[09:55] <[deXter]> NvidiaUnityBroke, which version of Ubuntu are you on? Because since 12.10 at least,  HDMI out is known to work
[09:55] <NvidiaUnityBroke> 13.04
[09:55] <NvidiaUnityBroke> tested, no workie
[09:55] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: some sites say they worked on preformace
[09:55] <bamboobender> johnsonbill: lemme see the realease notes
[09:56] <[deXter]> NvidiaUnityBroke, you'll have to reinstall the nouveau package
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> NvidiaUnityBroke  you could report a !bug, if needed
[09:57] <[deXter]> NvidiaUnityBroke, after purging nvidia drivers, install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[09:58] <telly> how can i show the status bar in the new nautilus?
[09:59] <IRus> telly: what is statusbar?
[09:59] <telly> the bar at the bottom
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> telly  the Gnome people changed a lot in the new Nautilus and not always for the best - I miss F3 multi-panel
[10:00] <IRus> telly: u want see access time, size and so on in status bar?
[10:00] <telly> yeah
[10:01] <IRus> telly: ok, gnome devs remove thos feature
[10:01] <sombrero> I upgraded to 13.4 yesterday. Result: no sound anymore, when I enter the "Brightness and lock" setting the screen lights up to almost full strength regardless of previous setting and I'm not sure my computer suspends anymore
[10:01] <telly> what drove them?
[10:01] <IRus> telly: so, i think marlin is best choise for u
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> telly  there's this channel, #ubuntu-gnome
[10:02] <sombrero> it's an Asus Zenbook UX31a. Does anyone else recognize these issues?
[10:02] <telly> is nautilus not in unity used? :D
[10:03] <telly> thanks
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> telly yes, but unity is a canonical product, nautilus is a gnome product
[10:04] <IRus> MonkeyDust: but canonical don't provide vanilla nautilus?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> IRus  further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, I guess
[10:22] <Alex___> i got an issue with CD image. can someone help?
[10:22] <scumbum> Alex___: what
[10:24] <Alex___> u see, i installed Morrowind via wine, created CD image via AcetonelISO. the game installed perfectly. When im tryin to run it i asks me to enter the CD
[10:27] <sathish_> Hi does chrome work on 13.04 yet?
[10:27] <scumbum> Alex___: can you install furus iso
[10:28] <scumbum> Furius iso then mount virtual drive
[10:29] <Shogoot> Does it exists free domains one can use?
[10:30] <bazhang> !ot | Shogoot
[10:30] <Proximus> Yo Ubuntu!
[10:30] <Alex___> furus iso ok ill try thank u
[10:33] <sathish> can I install chrome on 13.04? even if it crashes now, if do updates regularly it'll work in the future right?
[10:34] <heneusl_pay> nts: I found the similar skeleton file is in /usr/share/doc/initscript/sysvinitfiles
[10:34] <heneusl_pay> oops wrong channel
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !info chromium-browser | sathish
[10:35] <sathish> currently all drives are mounted under /media/lappy/ how to change that to /media ?
[10:36] <sathish> MonkeyDust: thanks, I prefer chrome, with bookmark sync and stuff :)
[10:36] <samijam> sathish, is lappy a username?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust>  sathish chromium has that too
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> sathish  chrome is based on chromium
[10:37] <scumbum> Alex___: cdemu may work
[10:37] <sathish> samijam: I was my the name of my home directory, when I installed, "lappy" is my computer name, the home directory was name to my computer name, when I installed since I already had a home directory in the same name as my username.
[10:37] <sathish> It was*
[10:38] <sathish> samijam: It was my the name of my home directory, when I installed, "lappy" is my computer name, the home directory was named as my computer name, when I installed since I already had a home directory in the same name as my username.
[10:38] <sathish> Ugh. typos.
[10:39] <samijam> sathish, you can set a mountpoint in fstab.  This might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:39] <sathish> MonkeyDust: Didn't know that, google chrome uses google servers to sync bookmarks I think. I thought chromius can't do that, since its open source :D
[10:39] <sathish> samijam: Thanks :)
[10:40] <sathish> chromium*
[10:40] <sathish> what happened to me :/
[10:40] <Alex___> scumbum: furius iso didnt work. same problem
[10:40] <Guest4800> hello, i have a question! I want to save my datas from my windows with linux. How can i find my folders with my documents
[10:41] <scumbum> Alex___: try cdemu
[10:41] <Alex___> oh ok
[10:41] <Guest4800> i use ubuntu 12.04 from an usb stick
[10:41] <BlackDex> someone a solution for ubuntu 13.04 with nvidia/intel hybrid? Because after installing nvidia drivers unity isn't starting any more because OpenGL seems broken
[10:41] <scumbum> Alex___: http://handytutorial.com/install-cdemu-virtual-cddvd-drive-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[10:41] <_rb> Guest4800 - look into File Manager, Computer tab (on right)
[10:42] <BlackDex> purging nvidia and enabling unity again fixes it, but no nvidia drivers :(
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> sathish  chromium does that too, just checked
[10:43] <samijam> Guest4800, I think _rb means on the left
[10:43] <Guest4800> ah ok, ty :)
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> sathish  all is the same in both chrome and chromium, except this https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[10:44] <Guest4800> do u mean file system, there is no file manager
[10:45] <scumbum> Linus Torvalds told Nvidia to fix driver
[10:45] <samijam> Guest4800, if you're looking for your "My Documents" from a Microsoft Windows partition, it might have a different label than "computer"
[10:45] <samijam> Guest4800, but it should be listed under "Devices" on the left side of the file manager
[10:46] <Wadie> I installed phpmyadmin on my 12.04
[10:46] <Wadie> and even though it's in my var/www directory,I still get 404 not found error
[10:46] <Wadie> any ideas ?
[10:46] <samijam> Guest4800, you should be able to get into the File Manager by moving your mouse to the left of the screen and selecting "Files", which is by default at the top
[10:46] <scumbum> Wadie: what for
[10:46] <Wadie> what do you mean
[10:47] <sathish> MonkeyDust: Thanks :)
[10:47] <scumbum> Wadie: did you install mysql
[10:47] <Wadie> sure
[10:47] <tintin> Hi, is the ubuntu 13.04 for installation and for live cd too? can i use as live ubuntu ? but i don't like gnome-3-shell/unity
[10:47] <Wadie> I installed lmap stack
[10:47] <AlexIsEpic> Hello guys! I just installed ubuntu for the first time and I want to change my drivers from nouveau to nvidia(the proprietary). But when I look in Software&Updates->Additional drivers, the list is empty.
[10:47] <tintin> Wadie: why did you install lamp stack?
[10:48] <scumbum> Wadie: you have web server
[10:48] <Wadie> I have apache
[10:48] <Wadie> if I create any other file I can load it just fine
[10:48] <scumbum> Wadie: lamp is great. It installs everything
[10:48] <tintin> Is the ubuntu 13.04 for installation and for live cd too? can i use as live ubuntu ? but i don't like gnome-3-shell/unity
[10:49] <Wadie> yea that's what I usually use..so what could have gone wrong ?
[10:49] <Wadie> http://46.102.245.57/phpmyadmin/
[10:49] <AlexIsEpic> Hello guys! I just installed ubuntu for the first time and I want to change my drivers from nouveau to nvidia(the proprietary). But when I look in Software&Updates->Additional drivers, the list is empty. Anyone?
[10:49] <tintin> Can anyone answer me?
[10:50] <scumbum> You drop your firewall open ports
[10:50] <bazhang> tintin, yes, its a live cd that can also be installed
[10:51] <scumbum> Wadie: try localhost/phpadmin
[10:51] <Wadie> but it's not on my local machine
[10:51] <scumbum> Oh
[10:51] <Wadie> this one for example http://46.102.245.57/admin/ loads fine
[10:51] <Wadie> even though it's a blank page - as it's suppose to be
[10:55] <scumbum> Wadie: is mysql running
[10:55] <Wadie> how do i check
[10:55] <Wadie> sudo netstat -tap | grep mysql
[10:56] <Wadie> I get
[10:56] <Wadie> tcp 0 0 localhost:mysql *:* LISTEN
[10:56] <Wadie> 5363/mysqld
[10:57] <Wadie> I type start mysql and now it started
[10:58] <scumbum> Wadie: http://localhost/phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php
[10:58] <scumbum> Wadie: chsnge localhost
[10:59] <doebi> i uninstalled wine, and its still shown in menu. why?
[11:00] <doebi> and my ubuntu software center is broken, i cant do anything, except starting it
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> doebi  try logout
[11:01] <scumbum> Wadie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[11:01] <doebi> i restared several times since first recogniction
[11:01] <doebi> problems occured yesterday
[11:02] <iDrofox> which is the easy to use partiton tool for ubuntu 13.04 ?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> iDrofox, gpartd ; comes standard with ubuntu ISO
[11:03] <Wadie> scumbum I have already tried that several times..even both methods
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  gparted, that's gnome partition editor
[11:03] <bonhoeffer> i just plugged in a new drive and am getting that it is connected to "6 series/c200 chipset family 2 port sata ide controller"
[11:03] <bonhoeffer> where my other drives are a 4 port sata ide controller
[11:03] <iDrofox> ok thanks for the info
[11:03] <scumbum> alecat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19127/how-to-access-phpmyadmin-after-installation
[11:03] <bonhoeffer> both controllers are just as fast, right?
[11:04] <scumbum> Alex___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19127/how-to-access-phpmyadmin-after-installation
[11:08] <Wadie> not working :\
[11:11] <Wadie> LOL scumbum
[11:11] <Wadie> I renamed the directory and now it's loading fine
[11:12] <scumbum> Wadie: why
[11:12] <Wadie> no idea!
[11:12] <Wadie> I was like ok let's see if I change the name I get the same not found error
[11:12] <Wadie> I changed it and yea it loaded just fine
[11:12] <Wadie> maybe it's about cache thing ? lol
[11:13] <kiwitinker> tried to start the steps to compile program using ./configure but it came back with error messages, checked config.log but have no idea what it all means, can anyone help please?
[11:13] <kiwitinker> I'm a newbie
[11:13] <scumbum> Wadie: you changed the address pointing to phpmyadmin
[11:13] <Wadie> yes
[11:14] <Wadie> I renamed the directory in var/www
[11:14] <Wadie> from phpmyadmin to something fucked up
[11:14] <Wadie> and it worked
[11:14] <bazhang> kiwitinker, got build-essential installed?
[11:14] <bazhang> !compile | kiwitinker
[11:14] <kiwitinker> have no idea sorry
[11:14] <bazhang> Wadie, no cursing here
[11:14] <dan2077> Hi, I'm trying to create a screen session with a bash one-liner. Can someone help me?
[11:15] <Wadie> sorry I only tried to describe the name I used
[11:15] <Wadie> anyway thanks scumbum
[11:16] <ciprian> hello
[11:16] <scumbum> Wadie: goid
[11:16] <bigdg> subaru god.l
[11:16] <kiwitinker> answer is no ubottu, I don't have build essential, reading your link now
[11:16] <cfhowlett> ciprian, greetingsw
[11:16] <ciprian> LENOVO IdeaPad Z500 59366651, Intel Core i5-3230M 2.6GHz, 15.6", 8GB, 1TB, nVIDIA GeForce GT 635M or LENOVO Essential G780 59361052, Intel Core i5-3230M 2.6GHz, 17.3", 4GB, 1TB, nVIDIA GeForce GT635M?
[11:17] <iDrofox> i have a problem with gparted, whenver i open it, it mount all drivers and show list but the problem is that when it search for drives to list, it also list them in launcher and then i have to remove them from launcher manully
[11:17] <ciprian> what should i choose?
[11:17] <ciprian> what's best for ubuntu?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !hardware|ciprian
[11:18] <llutz> dan2077: "screen -d -m -S mysessionname command"
[11:19] <SexyBoBo> ciprian: The only difference is one has a 2 inch bigger screen and 4 gig less ram then the other. They will both run ubuntu its all up to you if you would rather have a larger screen or more ram
[11:19] <dan2077> llutz: Here's what I got so far: http://pastebin.com/v2hD8dH7
[11:20] <dan2077> llutz: I entered that cmd and nothing happens after
[11:20] <ciprian> I also thought that a bigger screen with the same graphic chip and same ram would be a bit slower
[11:21] <ciprian> what about Acer V3-571G NX.M7EEX.003 cu procesor Intel® Core™ i5-3230M 2.60GHz, 6GB, 500GB, NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 730M 4GB?
[11:21] <iDrofox> can i add ebay search to ubuntu dash search ?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> ciprian, this is better had in off-topic
[11:22] <ciprian> is it good? I'm a bit suspicious about that 4GB GeForce
[11:22] <SexyBoBo> ciprian: again it will run Ubuntu the only difference it your preference and cost
[11:22] <scumbum> ciprian: nvidia
[11:24] <m3pow> Hello !
[11:24] <SexyBoBo> m3pow: moooo!
[11:24] <m3pow> any ideea why after installing mysql in 13.04 i get this : "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[11:24] <m3pow> hy SexyBoBo
[11:24] <cfhowlett> m3pow, greetings.
[11:25]  * plugwash wonders why ubuntu still only has version 2.20 of util-linux
[11:25] <m3pow> cfhowlett hi !
[11:26] <iDrofox> how to change ubuntu 13.04 unity settings ?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  unity-tweak
[11:26] <llutz> plugwash: why not, do you miss chcpu/prlimit?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> !info unity-tweak-tool | iDrofox
[11:28] <plugwash> llutz, what i'm actually after is losetup -P
[11:29] <SexyBoBo> m3pow: make sure mysql is runing with "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart"
[11:29] <llutz> plugwash: that should do in 2.20 too
[11:29] <m3pow> bobo, server is not installed
[11:29] <llutz> !info util-linux
[11:29] <m3pow> that's why i get the error
[11:29] <iDrofox> can i add more search providers in unity then amazon ?
[11:29] <m3pow> thanks :)
[11:30] <plugwash> llutz, well it's not in the manpage (note that is a capital P, lower case p is something different)
[11:30] <jasmin> hallo alle
[11:30] <llutz> plugwash: well,5.1 ... not sure. its in the man-page of 2.20.1-5.3 (debian sid)
[11:30] <snql> блин
[11:31] <nugroho> WHA420355
[11:31] <nugroho> SOC155694
[11:31] <llutz> nugroho: stop that daily spam
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !ru|snql,
[11:35] <scumbum> Why
[11:36] <Alex___> scumbum: thank you a lot dude it worked!!! now i will go get my doze of nostalgia xD
[11:37] <iDrofox> hello, how to switch to different workspace in ubuntu 13,04 ?
[11:37] <plugwash> llutz, just checked the manpage on sid, -p is there, -P isn't
[11:38] <SexyBoBo> iDrofox: try ctrl+alt+up
[11:39] <iDrofox> SexyBoBo: Thanks but i got it in unity tweak tool
[11:40] <dan2077> I'm trying to exec a bash one-liner while starting screen. After entering this cmd, no new screen seems to have been created: http://pastebin.ca/2368840
[11:40] <SilvereX> Hey guys, update manager isn't giving me the option to upgrade to 13.04
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> SilvereX  what version are you using now
[11:40] <nugroho> ubuntu linux and fedora or redhat which version
[11:40] <SilvereX> MonkeyDust: 12.10
[11:41] <b4ulook4me> HELP: installed ubuntu 13.04, installed ok but hangs in boot up afterwards (have nvidia GT-610 via HDMI) same thing happens with 12.04 & 12.10...
[11:41] <n00byx> where can i ask some technical problem with ubuntu, UEFI and Samsung?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | n00byx start here
[11:43] <n00byx> ok i read that before MonkeyDust but i read (i google firist) that some samsung notebooks brick after installing ubuntu on there machine
[11:43] <SexyBoBo> b4ulook4me: Can you give us more details what do you mean by hangs in boot? What does the screen display? Have you installed the third party drivers yet?
[11:43] <b4ulook4me> Hi SexyBoBo, nope havent installed 3rd Party drivers...
[11:44] <b4ulook4me> I mean reboot after installation..
[11:44] <b4ulook4me> it does not start gui...
[11:46] <SexyBoBo> b4ulook4me: is it a blank screen or does it have text? If it has text what does the bottom line say?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> b4ulook4me  what do you see instead? a blinking cursor?
[11:46] <b4ulook4me> no blinking / no cursor
[11:46] <nugroho> ubuntu linux rarely work in console mode use graphical interface
[11:46] <b4ulook4me> no text
[11:46] <b4ulook4me> num lock on keyboard works but nothing happnes
[11:47] <b4ulook4me> yet to try text mode in grub..
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> b4ulook4me  and what colour? we need to know *something*
[11:47] <SexyBoBo> b4ulook4me: Is your monitor on or is it in standby?
[11:48] <b4ulook4me> only black screen the one after ubuntu grub menu...
[11:48] <SilvereX> Whenever I click "check" in the update manager, to try and upgrade to 13.04, a box pops up saying this: http://pastebin.com/Qz0rMmyJ
[11:48] <b4ulook4me> nope monitor is not on standby
[11:48] <SilvereX> The same thing happened prior to the release of 13.04
[11:48] <SilvereX> There was a simple solution but I can't remember it
[11:48] <SilvereX> prior to the release of 12.10*
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> SilvereX  is simple solution is: delete the ppa
[11:48] <b4ulook4me> I am connected via HDMI cable.. (could that b)
[11:49] <yz250dirt> 32/m/ct here
[11:49] <bigdg> !nomodeset
[11:49] <nugroho> ubuntu linux when use viewsonic monitor looks great in graphic mode
[11:49] <yz250dirt> lol
[11:49] <b4ulook4me> do I hv to install nvidia drivers?
[11:49] <b4ulook4me> will try nomodeset also
[11:50] <b4ulook4me> b'coz boot disk / usb works ...
[11:50] <b4ulook4me> live usb boot also work
[12:02] <nugroho> ubuntu linux has startup in graphic mode the frame buffer and x11 has cooperative
[12:08] <go> hi everyone
[12:08] <cfhowlett> go greetings
[12:08] <go> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10, i have two screens, a HD one and a 19" one. I can't seem to set the 19" as the default one. Whenever I open a new application it goes to the HD one (which is my TV). Is there any fix for this? And I'm upgrading to 13.04 now, maybe that will solve my issue?
[12:14] <go> no one? ):
[12:15] <_rb> go: I don't know if upgrading will solve this issue, but it's good idea to upgrade either way
[12:15] <nugroho> viewsonic flat and viewsonic crt detected on ubuntu linux operating system
[12:19] <doc_b_> Can somebody help with a synergy set up? I have synergy setup to allow A share with B, but I want to add C to the the same screen as B but don't know what to write in the conf file
[12:20] <adv__> Hi
[12:20] <ron0062000> hello
[12:22] <adv__> Hi SexyBoBo, b4u here, Ubuntu 13.04 booted installing nvidia drivers.
[12:25] <doc_b_> Can somebody help with a synergy set up? I have synergy setup to allow A share with B, but I want to add C to the the same screen as B but don't know what to write in the conf file
[12:26] <emx> how do i update ubuntu from 12.x to 13.x?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> emx, 12.10 will upgrade to 13.04.  12.04 will not.
[12:28] <doc_b_> emx: go into applications menu, search for software updater and run it. It will up date your current version and then tell you that 13.04 is availale
[12:29] <emx> doc_b_, ok. what could go wrong?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> emx, OR you could torrent the 13.04 iso and do a clean install.
[12:30] <emx> cfhowlett, i will to that when it crashes :P
[12:30] <c0nsaw> hi guys can some one tell me, was the 12.04 ubuntu business remix discontinued ? I cant find any download link, 404
[12:31] <doc_b_> emx: anything really. But it should run fine. Yeah what cfhowlett says is a good point. Do you have many programs or data on tyou current install?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> c0nsaw, business remix has been gone for awhile now.
[12:31] <emx> doc_b_, mostly those used for web development and tex/latexs
[12:32] <emx> is there a (easy readable) list with all the programs i installed?
[12:32] <c0nsaw> cfhowlett: ok thanks :(
[12:32] <cfhowlett> emx, dpkg -l will tell you
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | emx
[12:33] <emx> cfhowlett, k, thanks
[12:35] <emx> can i use ubuntu one with a private cloud server?
[12:36] <toke> test
[12:36] <heneusl_pay> emx: That is what it is isn't it?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !test|toke,
[12:38] <emx> heneusl_pay, i would store very sensitive data of lots of people -> concerned about security: is data transferred plain text or per ssl, uptime of the servers and so on
[12:39] <emx> i would fell much better when i could use my own cloud server.
[12:39] <heneusl_pay> emx: Unless you sleep next to the hardware layer its usless venture.
[12:40] <Chatman> Hello! I wonder how do I mark a thread on Ubuntu forums as [Solved]
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> emx  there's this http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/05/install-owncloud-4-ubuntu-server-1204-lts.html
[12:41] <emx> MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:41] <emx> heneusl_pay, of course nothing is secure in that sense. but i need to ensure feasible security.
[12:42] <Chatman> How do I mark a thread as [Solved] ? anyone?
[12:44] <Chatman> someone? please...
[12:44] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[12:44] <wilee-nilee> Chatman, There is a drop down on your page when you are logged in.
[12:45] <Chatman> where exactly, when I'm viewing the thread, wilee-nilee?
[12:45] <narcos> Hi there. I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my BeagleBone, with ARMv7 CPU. I'm trying to install some packages, which complain about the lack of gcc. I've tried installing 'gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi-base' and 'gcc-4.5' packages, but the gcc binary is still not present. Do I just need to create symlink from the gcc-4.5 binary ?
[12:46] <Chatman> wilee-nilee, I can't find it
[12:47] <KyeRussell> narcos: build-essentials?
[12:47] <SexyBoBo> narcos: Try the build-essential package
[12:49] <javier> hello, can someone help me get surround sound working in 13.04
[12:50] <narcos> KyeRussell, SexyBoBo: Spot on, thank you :)
[12:51] <SexyBoBo> he only won because i was trying to make sure that package was in the arm repository :)
[12:51] <javier> how do you get surround sound in vlc or rhythmbox in 13.04
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> javier  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[12:54] <KyeRussell> SexyBoBo: I just guess ;)
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> javier, what kind of audio setup do you have , analog outs a speaker system , or digital out to an audio receiver ?
[12:58] <BluesKaj_> javier, the reason I ask this is there different options in VLC to set up surround soiund , one analog and the other digital
[13:02] <troy_> Hi i just installed ubuntu 13.04 and the boot loader seems to be broken I can longer boot into my Windows 7. Windows 7 is on /sdd/sda and ubuntu 13.04 is on /sdd/sdb/. When I choose Windows 7 in the boot loader. It sais unable to read UEFI file etc.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !uefi|Troy_
[13:03] <x5ives> In lubuntu, on entering "update-alternatives --config java" I get "There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[13:03] <x5ives> Nothing to configure." I'm trying to change from openjdk's jre to Oracle's jre.
[13:04] <troy_> cfhowlett: that seems pretty easy i guess ill try that.
[13:04] <cfhowlett> troy_, best of luck
[13:05] <troy_> can i run Boot-Repair inside my actual ubuntu installation or does it have to be from live cd? Also does boot-repair have to be installed?
[13:08] <javier> hello. still no surround sound
[13:08] <BluesKaj_> troy_, no , you need the live cd or run from another linux hdd ...never tried it from a different partition on the same drive though.
[13:09] <BluesKaj_> javier, did you see may post above ?
[13:09] <BluesKaj_> my
[13:09] <javier> i changed the pulseaudio default to 8 (for 7.1) restarted and still only getting stereo.
[13:09] <javier> I am running spd/if to a receiver as well
[13:10] <javier> in vlc I have the spdif selected and  5.1 out
[13:11] <javier> for both alsa and pulse i get stereo into the receiver
[13:11] <troy_> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[13:11] <troy_> What does that really mean unformatted file system?
[13:12] <x5ives> @javier you might try #videolan
[13:14] <bjensen> can I make a ubuntu install usb stick? So that if I just insert my stick into a usb port and boots the machine, it will install ubuntu with predefined settings?
[13:14] <bjensen> non-interactive
[13:15] <edutavares> Hello, good morning, I have two monitors are working and quiet, but I would leave the top bar of unity in just a monitor, is how to do this? can anyone help me?
[13:16] <x5ives> bjensen: are you on windows, linux or mac?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> bjensen, yes.  remastersys will allow you to customize an ubuntu ISO
[13:17] <xrfang> hi, I cannot delete a file even as root, what problem could it be? and how to solve it? thanks
[13:17] <bjensen> x5ives: Mac / linux. But basically I just want to be able to be able to select the usb as the boot device in the boot up menu and have it install and everything so I can just use Chef to get the software loaded
[13:17] <bjensen> cfhowlett: cool. Ill check it out
[13:17] <bjensen> thanks
[13:17] <Barnabas> I am on a LTS version:
[13:17] <Barnabas> nikolaj@stevieray:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release
[13:17] <Barnabas> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[13:17] <Barnabas> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[13:17] <Barnabas> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[13:17] <Barnabas> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS"
[13:17] <FloodBot1> Barnabas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:17] <Barnabas> should I not see an upgrade option in the upgrade tool
[13:17] <javier> iu am also not getting any sound when using the speaker test
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Barnabas, if you set your update settings to "LTS" ... no.
[13:18] <bjensen> cfhowlett: Um doesn't seam like its under development anymore? http://www.remastersys.com/ author quit)
[13:18] <Barnabas> cfhowlett, why not?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> bjensen, news to me ...
[13:18] <bjensen> check out the webpage
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Barnabas, because 13.04 is NOT lts...
[13:19] <Barnabas> cfhowlett, aah ok  .. thought it was
[13:19] <bjensen> and the links are broken
[13:19] <cfhowlett> bjensen, whoa.  wow.
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> javier, you 5.1 surround spdif output has to be dolby digital or a DTS stream from the video soundtrack . Make sure the video you are testinghas DD or DTS by checking in VLC>Tools>Media information , look for an audio stream that looks like : Codec A52 audio (aka AC3 a52)
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Barnabas, nope.  next LTS = 14.04
[13:19] <Barnabas> cfhowlett, no problem - support a long time yet on my existing system
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Barnabas, I too run LTS only.  Fewer headaches ...
[13:20] <Barnabas> cfhowlett, I just thought LTS followed the *.04 releases
[13:21] <Barnabas> my mistake
[13:21] <bjensen> cfhowlett: some recommend relinux and ubuntu-builder as alternatives. Im basicly looking for the easiest way to setup ubuntu 12.04 lts server edition using just a usb stick
[13:21] <x5ives> I can't change from openjdk's jre to Oracle's via update-alternatives. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612241/
[13:21] <BluesKaj_> javier, correction vlc>tools>Codec information
[13:23] <Myrtti> Barnabas: every even year.
[13:23] <gudenau> How could I use my computer as a hotspot, I need the phat ds to connect to it.
[13:24] <Barnabas> Myrtti, thanks - thats useful information
[13:24] <cfhowlett> bjensen, if those alternatives allow you to create what you want, go for it.  PXE will allow you to network install ... I think.  Server gurus can be found on #ubuntu-server.   Perhaps query them?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !share|gudenau,
[13:25] <bjensen> cfhowlett: good idea. Thanks mate
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !sharing|gudenau,
[13:25] <gudenau> What?
[13:25] <gudenau> I am a linux noob...
[13:25] <cfhowlett> gudenau, sorry, looking for the shared connection factoid
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !shared
[13:25] <gudenau> Ph.
[13:25] <yeats> cfhowlett: you probably need spaces between the pipe characters
[13:25] <gudenau> Oh*
[13:26] <javier> i have the spdif selected for system sound and get stereo sound into my receiver. How do i get 5.1 or 7.1 for vlc or rhythmbox
[13:26] <gudenau> !help
[13:26] <gudenau> !patience
[13:26] <yeats> !msgthebot | gudenau
[13:27] <wilee-nilee> x5ives, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[13:27] <zetheroo> I just installed VirtualBox in 13.04 and am getting some errors I never had before in previous version of Ubuntu
[13:27] <zetheroo> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[13:27] <wilee-nilee> !error | zetheroo
[13:27] <zetheroo> FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[13:28] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: please wait for people to elaborate ;)
[13:28] <x5ives> wilee-nilee: I don't want to install it via a PPA repo.
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Please follow channel policy. ;)
[13:30] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: as you can very well see I was elaborating - but you jumped the gun within a few seconds - completely unnecessary!
[13:30] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: in the meantime .. do you have anything useful regarding the issue I am having
[13:30] <zetheroo> ?
[13:30] <zetheroo> :P
[13:30] <HerrKlemmy> Hey there, folks. Following subjet : 3 monitors. Somebody said  additional to the two outputs of my videocard, the I could use the onboard output, to display another screen on a third monitor. So now I've got two monitors working and the third keeps black until I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 for example. Then the two screens with the X-Server freete and the third comes up with a terminal. How to use the third also with the X-Server - I've got no Xor
[13:30] <HerrKlemmy> g.conf
[13:31] <wilee-nilee> x5ives, Suit yourself there is a java wiki.
[13:31] <sathish> Hi guys, I have bumblebee project installed, I prefer to run vlc with nvidia card, how do I automatically run vlc with optirun vlc, whenever I start vlc?
[13:31] <mgaunard_> since I upgraded to 13.04, Xorg is taking 20% of CPU time and I have lots of graphical glitches
[13:31] <javier> hello. i am getting no sound in the alsa speaker test
[13:32] <javier> speaker-test -c 8 is not working, please help
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> javier  in a terminal, type alsamixer... do you find something wrong?
[13:33] <javier> no. all channel are green
[13:33] <Arrarita> Hello, On Friday it was suggested that I log out in an effort to resolve a problem I was having, I did that and when I tried to log back in I had no tool bar and no launcher.What do I do to get it back?
[13:33] <javier> i do however see 2 different spdif options
[13:33] <javier> spdif  and spdif default pcm
[13:34] <javier> both are green though
[13:34] <cyclist_2> Whatever happened to Swiftfox [the web browser]? Their web site is still up but there is no longer access to their files and no comments about it on the internet [that I could find]; check it out on http://getswiftfox.com/
[13:34] <mgaunard_> what happened to the ubuntu restricted manager, I can't find it anymore
[13:34] <andy__> hi
[13:35] <RickJames> are wobbly windows gone for 13.04 ?
[13:35] <HerrKlemmy> Hey there, folks. Following subjet : Using 3 monitors. Somebody said  additional to the two outputs of my videocard, I could use the onboard output, to display another screen on a third monitor. So now I've got two monitors working and the third keeps black until I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 for example. Then the two screens with the X-Server freeze and the third comes up with a terminal. How to use the third also with the X-Server - I've got no X
[13:35] <javier> i seem to remember having to mess with an alsa file before
[13:35] <HerrKlemmy> org.conf
[13:36] <zetheroo> has anyone else had success running VirtualBox in 13.04?
[13:36] <sathish> zetheroo: I just ran it no issues
[13:37] <sathish> zetheroo: ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[13:37] <x5ives> wilee-nilee: There is?
[13:37] <zetheroo>  sathish: and is it that latest version in the Ubuntu repos?
[13:37] <ssd> xrandr help at all?
[13:37] <sathish> zetheroo: I hope so, just did an apt-get update yesterday, install virtual box today
[13:38] <wilee-nilee> x5ives, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[13:38] <zetheroo> ok
[13:38] <RickJames> and how do i satisfy a missing libudev0 dependancy ?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> sathish, might want to also run apt-get dist-upgrade ...
[13:39] <javier> do i have to install additional libraries for alsa? i seem to not have an asound.conf file which is leading me to believe i am missing something
[13:39] <zetheroo>  sathish: did you install it via Synaptic or via USC or Terminal ?
[13:40] <zetheroo>  sathish: and after installing did you run a VM in it?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> javier, soundsja asound conf is no longer used afaik
[13:41] <BluesKaj> oops ignore soundja
[13:41] <neyder> hi
[13:41] <javier> ok. so what do i need to do to fix this issue
[13:41] <wilee-nilee> RickJames, Supposedly works, you in unity and have the compiz config installed?
[13:42] <zetheroo> when I install VirtualBox via Terminal with "apt-get install virtualbox" I see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612331/
[13:42] <BluesKaj> .0
[13:42] <zetheroo> something is definitely wrong here
[13:42] <HerrKlemmy> Hey there, folks. Following subject : Using 3 monitors. Somebody said  additional to the two outputs of my videocard, I could use the onboard output, to display another screen on a third monitor. So now I've got two monitors working and the third keeps black until I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 for example. Then the two screens with the X-Server freeze and the third comes up with a terminal. How to use the third also with the X-Server - I've got no
[13:42] <HerrKlemmy> Xorg.conf
[13:42] <raven_> Hello Everyone! I am looking for a bit of help with my Asus Zenbook Prime UX31A. Ubuntu 13.04. Under Unity all the FN Keys work fine, but as soon as i go to another Display Manager (KDE and LXDE) the FN keys stop working. Anyone had this issue?
[13:43] <raven_> Window manager i mean
[13:43] <cristian_c> Hi
[13:44] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[13:44] <neyder> Yesterday we can't install, nor boot,  Raring in many new machines with Windows 8 + secure boot
[13:44] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[13:44] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[13:44] <neyder> there is any way to make it work out of the box?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !mpt|cristian_c,
[13:44] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | neyder
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !mtp|
[13:45] <raven_> My Ultrabook uses a EUFI Secure Boot system, dodgy as crap. With Raring i found i had to edit the vmlinuz.efi file and remove the .efi extension - Then reboot and boot the USB but without EUFI, if that helps.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, grr.  ok.  android/ubuntu use the MPT (MTP?) communication protocol
[13:46] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, but is it a usb communication protocol?
[13:46] <FrankieJ> anyone know a good WYSIWYG editor for lubuntu, i had kompzoer but it doesnt work for lubuntu no more
[13:46] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, all I recall is that no MTP/MPT, no communcation with android via plug
[13:46] <neyder> thanks wilee-nilee raven , it maybe 'cause they switch many things in BIOS (now UEFI) setup
[13:47] <raven_> Lets dumb this down a little. cristian_c what android phone are you using?
[13:47] <x5ives> wilee-nilee: Ahh, I knew that, I thought you mean an actual 'Java Wiki'.
[13:47]  * cfhowlett ... watches with interest as I am buying Nexus 4 soon
[13:47] <neyder> just reading around, i havo no machines with Windows8 now, it was on yesterday's FLISOL
[13:47] <Gh05t5> Hello, I wonder if someone can help me set up my wired connection, it worked when I had a clean install however something has broken it.
[13:47] <javier> any ideas
[13:48] <wilee-nilee> neyder, Different computers from different manufacturers can have different methods needed, good luck there is no universal methid. ;)
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !who | javier
[13:48] <cristian_c> raven_, I'm using a tablet
[13:48] <cristian_c> raven_, I'm paired pc and devce
[13:48] <cristian_c> *device
[13:48] <raven_> cristian_c, model? I dont like asking "personal" questions, but each device is different
[13:49] <javier> !BluesKaj i am not gettting surround sound
[13:49] <cristian_c> raven_, I don't remember the exact model, it's not a famous brand
[13:49] <Ignacio> Hi guys.
[13:49] <cristian_c> wait
[13:49] <Ignacio> I need help installing my modem software.
[13:49] <Gh05t5> what is good manners on this channel? repeat question in a few minutes if no help or just wait until someone can help?
[13:49] <RickJames> wilee-nilee, i have ccsm and fusion-icon, what else needs to be installed?
[13:50] <Ignacio> The log:
[13:50] <Ignacio> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5612341/
[13:50] <neyder> wilee-nilee, bad luck FLISOL's installations were very silly because of that
[13:50] <javier> i have the spdif selected for sound, and i am not getting anyting out of the alsa test
[13:50] <cfhowlett> Gh05t5, say every 10 - 15 minutes is good
[13:50] <javier> i am completely lost on why this isn't working
[13:50] <raven_> cristian_c okay, this might be a problem. What brand?
[13:50] <cristian_c> ravenhttp://www.pipo.com/
[13:50] <raven_> and also cristian_c what version of Android?
[13:50] <Gh05t5> cfhowlett, Thanks. hopefully get my connection sorted :)
[13:51] <FrankieJ> anyone here know anything about lubuntu 13?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> javier , I posted several suggestions , but you seem to just be doing what you think will fix your surround  sound , read my posts above about VLC >tools and then reply
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Gh05t5, think good thoughts ...
[13:51] <jrib> Gh05t5: repeat after a reasonable wait (use your judgement based on traffic but I think 10-15 minutes is appropriate)
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> RickJames, Not sure I use the gnome-shell, I figured you had some knowledge there, you might look on the web for setups. When  used unity I found a setup and just copied it from install to install.
[13:51] <Gh05t5> jrib, thanks I can see how things can pass by without attention, but also don't want to spam the channel
[13:52] <javier> sorry, but i do not see your posts as i have rebooted a few times.
[13:52] <Gh05t5> javier, who are you addressing?
[13:52] <RickJames> wilee-nilee, i use unity ( i think it's called) been a compiz user since beryl (the better decorator,imho) 12.10 allowed it with very little effort. i'll just google some more
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !details|Gh05t5, details matter a lot ...
[13:52] <cristian_c> raven, 4.1
[13:52] <javier> BluesKaj, sorry
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> javier  in VLC : Tools > preferences > audio > dolby surround
[13:53] <HerrKlemmy> Hey there, folks. Following subjet : 3 monitors. Somebody said  additional to the two outputs of my videocard, the I could use the onboard output, to display another screen on a third monitor. So now I've got two monitors working and the third keeps black until I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 for example. Then the two screens with the X-Server freete and the third comes up with a terminal. How to use the third also with the X-Server - I've got no Xor
[13:53] <HerrKlemmy> g.conf
[13:53] <BluesKaj> javier, your 5.1 surround spdif output has to be dolby digital or a DTS stream from the video soundtrack . Make sure the video you are testinghas DD or DTS by checking in VLC>Tools>Media information , look for an audio stream that looks like : Codec A52 audio (aka AC3 a52). PCM out is plain stereo, usually.
[13:53] <javier> MonkeyDust i have done that and still receiving stereo input
[13:54] <Forage> Hi
[13:54] <Forage> I need some help with an upstart issue
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Forage, greetings
[13:54] <BluesKaj> javier,correction :  VLC>tools>Codec info
[13:54] <Gh05t5> Okay, i'm running 12.04 I believe and my wired connection shows up, but then when i try to use it it doesnt work, in the icon at the top of the screen it says wired connection connected, but it just doesn't actually work. I'm sorry if this isn't specific enough but I'm enough of a rookie to not know what is important
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !details|Forage,
[13:54] <Forage> yeah, yeah, working on it :-P
[13:55] <javier> BluesKaj
[13:55] <Forage> the upstart gdm log has entries stating "/proc/self/fd/9: 31: /etc/profile: [[: not found"
[13:55] <javier> its empty
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Gh05t5, disconnect any wifi connections and see if that fixes wireless
[13:55] <Forage> where does this "[[" come from?
[13:56] <cristian_c> raven, any ideas?
[13:56] <jjin> i'm trying to install ubuntu GNOME 13.04 via usb as a dual-boot on a machine currently running windows 8, but the usb drive containing it isn't recognized as a boot option. the same drive with regular ubuntu 13.04 (with unity) works just fine and is recognized. any ideas?
[13:56] <Gh05t5> cfhowlett, I have tried disconnecting wireless and there is no change, wireless works fine, thats how I am speaking to you, but if i disconnect wireless with the cable plugged in, Nothing.
[13:56] <jrib> Forage: what changes did you make to your upstart/upstarts scripts?  [[ is bash syntax
[13:56] <Forage> jrib: I didn't, gdm fails to start after a system hang
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Gh05t5, weird and familiar.  same thing happened to me at work. worse, one day wired just decided to start working again without any further action by me
[13:57] <jrib> Forage: was that always the case?
[13:57] <Forage> jrib: always the case?
[13:57] <jrib> Forage: did gdm ever not fail to start?
[13:57] <compdoc> means did that always happen
[13:57] <Forage> jrib: nope, worked fine before
[13:58] <jrib> Forage: can you elaborate on "system hang"?
[13:58] <javier> BluesKaj I am playing equilibrium codec A52 3f2R/LFE 48000Hz 640 kb/s
[13:58] <doctorpepper> hi guys!
[13:58] <Gh05t5> cfhowlett, I think I'm actually responsible for this, I was trying to use google DNS and it wouldnt work. but when I restored default settings the connection never came back
[13:58] <cfhowlett> doctorpepper, what's up, doc
[13:58] <javier> i am getting stereo input to the receiver still
[13:58] <Forage> jrib: played a game, exited, freeze. Happens more often with that game, but never caused issues like this before
[13:58] <diki> so I have .sh file where I have some export commands, but when I execute them from my terminal they do not change anything when I later print the changed/exported variables
[13:58] <doctorpepper> where can i find  networkmanager 0.9.8 package for precise
[13:59] <Forage> jrib: some more details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1169640
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Gh05t5, with great power ...
[13:59] <jrib> Forage: pastebin your /etc/profile
[13:59] <Gh05t5> cfhowlett, comes great cockups
[14:00] <cfhowlett> Gh05t5, as I recall, the DNS gets mirrored to a couple of config files.  Can't offer any help beyond that ...
[14:00] <Forage> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ZRuZF4FE
[14:00] <javier> i have dolby enabled, alsa audio out, spdif selected and hda ati sb, alc892 digital iec958 chosen
[14:00] <jrib> Forage: comment the last line (31) and see if the situation changes.  Did you fsck after resetting the system?
[14:01] <Forage> jrib: yeah
[14:01] <javier> in the system preferences i have the same audio device selected
[14:01] <Gh05t5> Hello, I wonder if someone can help me set up my wired connection, it worked when I had a clean install however something has broken it when i tried to change dns to google
[14:01] <wilee-nilee> doctorpepper, With a quick web look I see no links.
[14:02] <Forage> jrib: ok, will try with commenting out that line. Will need to reboot though. Anything else I should do as a follow up?
[14:02] <diki> I see, I need to call source <.sh file> to execute the export commands on the current shell
[14:02] <doctorpepper> wilee-nilee: that is why  i am asking here ?
[14:02] <Errare> hi
[14:02] <Puri> hy
[14:02] <jrib> Forage: yes, you should come back either way and report the results
[14:02]  * Errare has just upgraded his computer to Ubuntu :D
[14:02] <javier> BlueKaj: do i need to follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DigitalAC-3Pulseaudio
[14:03] <BluesKaj> javier, ok , open alsamixer , and take a snapshot with your prtScn key and post it on imagebin. I'd like to see your settings
[14:03] <wilee-nilee> doctorpepper, Cool, we never know how efficient people are or there google foo abilities.
[14:03] <Forage> jrib: haha, of course, just though I might as well do more in one go ;-)
[14:03] <wilee-nilee> their*
[14:03] <Forage> brb
[14:03] <jrib> Forage: oh.  No, but you can think about how that line got there; that's my next question :)  I'll be back in ~10
[14:04] <FrankieJ> anyone know how to install aptana via cli?
[14:04] <Puri> ad gk indo disini?
[14:04] <javier> BluesKaj: print screen makes my entire tv grey
[14:05] <BluesKaj> javier, that URL is no longer valid , ubuntu no longer uses an asoundrc file for pulseaudio  ..Pavucontrol is a useful tool for setting your audio outputs as well.
[14:06] <javier> BluesKaj thank you. what can i use instead of printscreen
[14:06] <BluesKaj> javier, ok forget the snapshot then
[14:07] <Forage> jrib: SUCCESS!!!
[14:07] <Forage> finally!
[14:07] <javier> BluesKaj, shoud I install the pavucontrol
[14:07] <BluesKaj> javier,in alasmixer , make sure your spdif oputs are using pcm . Yes pavucontrol is quite handy
[14:08] <scumbum> javier: whats wrong
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> scumbum  javier is struggling with surround audio
[14:09] <javier> in alsamixer, i have a spdif connection that is marked s/pdif and another that is s/pdif default pcm
[14:10] <javier> not sure if this means anything but auto-mute is enabled
[14:10] <Gh05t5> Hello, I wonder if someone can help me set up my wired connection, it worked when I had a clean install however something has broken it when i tried to change dns to google
[14:10] <wilee-nilee> doctorpepper, I see it in this ppa however not necessarily pointed at precise, there is a update on the page for a tar, it is in raring stock. Use at your own risk. https://launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+archive/nm
[14:10] <BluesKaj> javier, are the spdifs showing as 0 and 1 ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> javier, disable auto mute
[14:11] <lovethecode> how did you change the dns, Ghost5?
[14:11] <javier> all of the channels (PCM, front, surround, center, left and side) are all green
[14:11] <scumbum> javier: in terminal type alsamixer or alsa-mixer
[14:11] <Forage> jrib: I did have to install autopackage in the past. Since I hardly shutdown my system I never connected it installing that package with issue because it was way earlier.
[14:11] <javier> the spdif are not marked 0 or 1
[14:11] <BluesKaj> javier, no MMs in the ctrls ?
[14:12] <javier> no
[14:12] <javier> only the front and rear mic
[14:12] <Gh05t5> lovethecode, in edit connections wired, ipv4, DNS settings
[14:12] <scumbum> javier: in terminal type alsamixer
[14:12] <Forage> jrib: strange that it only caused issues with gdm though
[14:12] <Errare> I have a question if anybody knows the answer. Is it possible to delete my Windows partition and give Linux the rest of the space on my hard drive? (Upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from Windows 7). The machine is currently dual-booted.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ok javier have you installed pavucontrol yet ?
[14:12] <lovethecode> ah Ghost5, try to set everything to auto config, which should fix the error.
[14:13] <Gh05t5> lovethecode, can you let me know how i select auotconfIig
[14:13] <lovethecode> Errare, yes, resize the partition with GParted from Live Ubuntu CD.
[14:13] <Errare> Ok thanks, lovethecode.
[14:13] <Tomtiger11> Hey, Id like something that will allow me to network a few computers and have the same files and credentials on all of them
[14:13]  * BluesKaj wishes ubuntu would come up with an integrated audio suite , insted of this dog'sd breafast of integrating serttings in differnt audio apps
[14:14] <scumbum> javier: you need to unmute surrond sound
[14:14] <nyuszika7h> hi, I've installed rxvt-unicode but my colors are messed up. any idea how to fix? my ~/.Xresources: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612438/
[14:14] <scumbum> Using alsamixer
[14:14] <javier> BluesKaj, i have it installed now
[14:14] <BluesKaj> scumbum, are you following the discussion , he already has
[14:14] <lovethecode> ghost5, I think we should try to reverse the settings that caused the error.
[14:15] <wilee-nilee> Errare, From windows? Is this a ubuntu install from windows?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> lovethecode  type gh [tab]
[14:15] <nyuszika7h> also this is Xubuntu 13.04
[14:15] <BluesKaj> ok open pavucontrol and set the outputs to your soundcrads spdif out in the drop down
[14:15] <BluesKaj> javier,^
[14:16] <Gh05t5> lovethecode,  sounds good to me I just don't know how sorry, im too new. I read an article online extoling the virtues of google dns as being faster. seems im not clever enough to follow the steps
[14:16] <javier> I have the pavucontrol open
[14:16] <lovethecode> ok brb
[14:16] <johnjohn1011> is it possible to use one of the new 4TB drives and load ubuntu from scratch on it?
[14:16] <scumbum> javier: sound may be un muted in sound control. Alsamixer may show otherwise.
[14:17] <javier> scumbum please explain
[14:17] <Gh05t5> test sorry
[14:17] <Gh05t5> lovethecode, did you get this msg?
[14:17] <Errare> wilee-nilee, I have two partitions on my hard drive 200gig and 300 gig approx. I installed ubuntu with a program called UNETBOOT i think it was since my CDs wasn't working. I ran the whole thing through windows and it is dual-booted now.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> javier, choose the "output  devices" tab and choose the ports dropdown , choose spdif out
[14:18] <wilee-nilee> Errare, Okay cool, just concerned it might be a wubi install which is a file in windows.
[14:18] <Errare> oh, would that matter?
[14:18] <scumbum> javier: just type alsamixer in terminal
[14:18] <nyuszika7h> http://imgur.com/mHtaXWv
[14:19] <lovethecode> ghost5, please select "automatic (DHCP)" under the IPv4 setttings tab of your ethernet config popup.
[14:19] <wilee-nilee> Errare, Yes, if you removed windows you would remove ubuntu.
[14:19] <Errare> Oh lol
[14:19] <wilee-nilee> Errare, Not what you would want, lol.
[14:19] <Errare> Not really no wilee-nilee.
[14:20] <javier> Blues
[14:20] <javier> BluesKaj, done
[14:20] <Errare> Is there a way I could check? Without actually trying it?
[14:20] <scumbum> javier: when alsamixer is running press function key 6 then select audio device you want to adjust
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> Errare, install gparted and look for the ext4 partitions and a swap.
[14:21] <Errare> I just want MS completely out of my system, I don't even use it anymore.
[14:21] <DeSmuME> Errare : reinstall linux overeverything than
[14:21] <wilee-nilee> Errare, YOU can run sudo fdisk -l in ubuntu and look for the ext4 parttions as well
[14:22] <wilee-nilee> DeSmuME, Don't just spit out advice read the page.
[14:22] <javier> ok. thank you very much
[14:22] <yeehi> which folder are the wallpaper images in?
[14:22] <javier> BluesKaj, it appears that after selecting the correct formats and output device i have surround for movies
[14:22] <javier> can you help me get 5.1 for rhythmbox?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> yeehi  /usr/share/backgrounds/
[14:23] <oyster> my window manager just hung
[14:23] <oyster> mouse mooves but wont click anything
[14:23] <yeehi> Thanks, MonkeyDust
[14:23] <oyster> keyboard is dead
[14:23] <Errare> ok thanks wilee-nilee. WIll look into it now.
[14:23] <oyster> but i can switch to a vt
[14:24] <BluesKaj> javier, now open a video encoded with DD surround , with VLC , then choose tools > prefernces > audio , then choose "alsa audio output" and check the spdif option below it , then save at the bottom
[14:24] <yeehi> MonkeyDust, how do you know these sorts of things?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> yeehi  by using ubuntu
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> yeehi  in the end, you just know, there's no trick
[14:24] <oyster> why can this happen
[14:24] <BluesKaj> javier, setting your prefernces in VLC will preserve the settings for futher reboots
[14:24] <deb__>  Sorry, i speak english small. How change font and size font used command line in .doc file?
[14:24] <yeehi> ah, you must know and love it very well
[14:25] <oyster> damn .. my only option seems to be restarting x now
[14:25] <oyster> folks is ther any x log i can check
[14:27] <BluesKaj> javier, so you have surround Dolby Digital 5.1 ?
[14:28] <happyhessian> hello, i'm having some trouble installing RR to my desktop... i'm doing kubuntu and it dies on grub-install.  what is the correct location for bootloader installation if i have lvm2 already set up from a previous install? i thought /dev/sda but i'm getting a fatal error there.  should i go for the / lv? it feels wrong...
[14:28] <javier> i did for a second now i am not getting any sound for some reason
[14:28] <Zoyo> hi
[14:30] <scumbum> Zoyo: hello
[14:31] <BluesKaj> javier, does your receiver show a pcm feed ?
[14:31] <scumbum> javier: my way would activate sorround sound system eide
[14:31] <scumbum> Wide
[14:32] <shantorn> could anyone tell me if conky works well with unity?
[14:32] <shantorn> mine doesnt seem to
[14:32] <scumbum> shantorn: hello
[14:33] <shantorn> hello
[14:34] <Zoyo> What's the name of the executable that is started when klicking on the settings-entry under the gearwheel-icon? this doesn't start anymore after upgrading to raring.
[14:34] <scumbum> shantorn: conky would just clutter things up in unity
[14:35] <jrib> Forage: bashisms like [[ should not be in /etc/profile apparently.  If it was added automatically by a package, you should notify the maintainer
[14:35] <nantou> how do I split cue files and convert em to mp3 with linux only and not using ape (license issues)?
[14:35] <shantorn> since you pmed me and called me a stupid jerk your opinion doesnt matter to me
[14:36] <jrib> !iso | nantou
[14:36] <wilee-nilee> scumbum, That is a personal opinion not support.
[14:36] <jrib> nantou: do those conversion utilities help you?
[14:36] <wilee-nilee> shantorn, Report those sort of PM's to #ubuntu-ops
[14:37] <nantou> i dont have iso files anywhere, just ape
[14:37] <cyclist_2> Whatever happened to Swiftfox [the web browser]? Their web site is still up but there is no longer access to their files and no comments about it on the internet [that I could find]; check it out on http://getswiftfox.com/
[14:37] <shantorn> ok wilee-nilee
[14:38] <BluesKaj> shantorn, just put him on ignore , he pm'd me as well
[14:41] <scumbum> This is support not complaint room
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> cyclist_2, There is a installer link on the site.
[14:41] <javier__> BluesKaj, thank you very very much. i have surround for movies now
[14:42] <javier__> could you please help me enable 5.1 or 7.1 for rhythmbox please
[14:42] <cyclist_2> wilee-nilee: it does not work for me; did you actually clicked on the links?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> javier__, sorry i don't use rhythmbox
[14:42] <javier__> ok. what do you use?
[14:43] <wilee-nilee> cyclist_2, I'm not going to install it to check but look here. http://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm
[14:44] <javier__> BluesKaj, what program do you recommend instead
[14:44] <BluesKaj> rhythmbox probly won't play surround sound , VLC will if you have music encoded with 5 or 7.1 surround , javier__
[14:44] <jjin> i'm trying to install ubuntu GNOME 13.04 via usb as a dual-boot on a machine currently running windows 8, but the usb drive containing it isn't recognized as a boot option. the same drive with regular ubuntu 13.04 (with unity) works just fine and is recognized. any ideas?
[14:44] <scumbum> javier__: music is stereo
[14:45] <BluesKaj> not all music is stereo , there are some dvd audio surround encoded files or disks available
[14:46] <javier__> scumbum, my issue is that when i was playing music thru rhythmbox before, my sub wouldnt enable as a stereo input
[14:46] <javier__> i installed the equilizer ppa and enabled the lfe before, and am seeing if i have to do the same thing
[14:46] <mar> just installed 13.04 - What should I do about nVidia drivers?
[14:46] <wilee-nilee> jjin, This the gnome remix, does it have the uefi stuff onboard?
[14:47] <cyclist_2> wilee-nilee: you will not install it by just clicking on the link; you should get a new window asking whether you wish to install it or to open it; anyway, if you do not know the answer to my question, I thank you for you reply but seek no further assistance from you; I *actually clicked on all links and all I get is a '404 - not found page' message*; that's the reason for my curiosity
[14:47] <jjin> it's not gnome remix, as far as i can tell. it's the version i got directly from the ubuntu website
[14:48] <sathish> Hi guys, I have bumblebee project installed, I prefer to run vlc with nvidia card, how do I automatically run vlc with optirun vlc, whenever I start vlc?
[14:48] <scumbum> javier__: do like blueaho-led said rythmbox may not be able play more than 2 channels
[14:48] <BluesKaj> javier__, just use vlc
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> cyclist_2, If you don't want to add it to your sources.list that is your decision, don't criticize me for helping you.
[14:49] <scumbum> E
[14:50] <jjin> wilee-nilee: it's not gnome remix, as far as i can tell. it's the version i got directly from the ubuntu website
[14:50] <BluesKaj> javier  can you set your audio receiver to do surround from 2 channels using dolby pro logic or a similar setting ?
[14:50] <scumbum> wilee-nilee: to much of humble pie
[14:50] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Ah, could be any number of reasons, bad usb load...etc UEFI stuff, have you seen the UEFI wiki?
[14:51] <jjin> wilee-nilee: i have. what confuses me is that the exact same usb drive with "vanilla" ubuntu (w/ unity) on it is recognized just fine
[14:52] <jjin> wilee-nilee: granted i'm also having a fair bit of trouble installing THAT, but one problem at a time lol
[14:53] <cyclist_2> wilee-nilee: I *did* try doing that, too; it just so happens that it does *not* work! that page is a ghost page; I already thanked you; please, bear in mind that I have already done a lot of research trying to find those elusive files *before* I came here, so all obvious suggestions like clicking on links and adding to the sources list are of no help whatsoever; but, thank you, again!
[14:55] <Kyshtynbai> Hi guys. Should I install 64bit system on a notebook with this processor, http://pastebin.com/MmMNkQcm or it is pointless?
[14:55] <Jeff_Stylez> I could use some help if someone's got a minute.   Been searching the web for two days trying different things, and I simply can't get Ubuntu installed on my box.  I think it's related to my video cards because of the errors I'm receiving from nouveau.  Tried CD's, USB, nomodeset, blacklisting nouveau, nothing works, end up simply at a black screen. (No cursor)
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Kyshtynbai, pointless , it won't install on that machine , use the 32 bit image
[14:58] <Kyshtynbai> Thanks.
[14:59] <varikonniemi> Jeff_Stylez,
[14:59] <varikonniemi> sorry you had no cursor. i had a very weird problem with 13.04 somehow related to it being confused to where to put the bootloader
[15:00] <varikonniemi> only got it working by pulling out my android phone with sd storage and raid array for the install..
[15:01] <varikonniemi> but my computer hanged at just black screen with blinking prompt
[15:01] <vonkrolok> hello everybody
[15:01] <vonkrolok> I'm in need of a help with banshee & ipod touch
[15:01] <Jeff_Stylez> The black screen only occurs when I use nomodeset and/or blacklist nouveau.   Otherwise it'll go to low-graphics mode.  But will never actually install.
[15:01] <vonkrolok> on ubuntu precise
[15:02] <Jeff_Stylez> Actually, seems it won't even check the disk for errors once I've blacklisted nouveau.
[15:04] <pii3> hi
[15:04] <vonkrolok> hi
[15:04] <jpastore> hi I just upgraded from 12.04->12.10->13.04. haven't turned this laptop on in a while. can I easily uninstall unity and install gnome?
[15:05] <pii3> i have remote desktop server available on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, how can i set remote desktop server for which monitor
[15:05] <jjin>  wilee-nilee: i have. what confuses me is that the exact same usb drive with "vanilla" ubuntu (w/ unity) on it is recognized just fine
[15:05] <wilee-nilee> jpastore, No gnome 2 is not available, however there are other desktop options.
[15:05] <jpastore> wilee-nilee: I just read that 13.04 is the first version since 11.04 to offer gnome officially
[15:05] <pii3> i have two monitor i just want first monitor to show ?
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> jpastore, gnome 3
[15:06] <jpastore> wilee-nilee: so cna I uninstall unity and install gnome3?
[15:07] <lovethecode> I like the 13.04, so far!
[15:07] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> jpastore, YOu have gnome already it underlies the ubinty desktop which is a plugin in compiz, if you want the gnome 3 shell and the fallback option install the gnome shell. Removing unity is not a wise thing in general.
[15:08] <wilee-nilee> s/unity
[15:08] <jpastore> wilee-nilee: yea but I really don't like unity. it might be the lowest common denominator interface that works well for all sizes...but I do not like it.
[15:08] <spab> So - uh.  How can I apt install something that has two ++'s in the name?  It's been treated like I'm trying to regex something
[15:09] <spab> Escaping the +'s doesn't help neither does enclosing it in quotes and google is worthless
[15:09] <jpastore> I will look up how to uninstall unity if it will revert back to just using gnome. thanks.
[15:09] <wilee-nilee> jjin, I don't really understand the differences of your downloads to be honest, might you just need to use the out if the bois boot from menu?
[15:09] <cristian_c> There is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned.
[15:09] <vonkrolok> is there somebody here that uses ubuntu to sync and ipod touch?
[15:09] <spab> vonkrolok, what version of iPod touch?
[15:10] <spab> If it's 6th-gen, gtkpod doesn't do it right, I can tell you that
[15:11] <vonkrolok> 2G
[15:11] <vonkrolok> it's an old one
[15:11] <amazigh> hi !
[15:11] <spab> vonkrolok, try gtkpod
[15:11] <spab> The people behind it actually care about the user experience
[15:11] <Forage> jrib: I got rid of autopackage instead
[15:12] <jjin> wilee-nilee: what do you mean by that? i've been using the "boot from" menu this entire time, to no success
[15:12] <cristian_c> Also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc.
[15:12] <amazigh> does any of you guys have an idea why youtube is so slow since a week ?
[15:12] <Jeff_Stylez> Hmm.  Could my install troubles be related to the SLI bridge being installed?
[15:13] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[15:13] <wilee-nilee> jjin, To boot a usb you can change the bios, or use a key prompt at poering on to get a one tome boot from menu not in the bios.
[15:13] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:13] <varikonniemi> Jeff_Stylez, at least i have no problems with or without bridges
[15:13] <amazigh> I have Ubuntu 12.10 installed and I am using Firefox
[15:13] <jjin> wilee-nilee, that's what i've done already
[15:13] <aurelia88> gh
[15:13] <aurelia88> yes
[15:13] <amazigh> No idea why since a week now Youtube is very slow
[15:13] <vonkrolok> spab done it
[15:14] <vonkrolok> I get a "file does not exist" error message in banshee
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Excellent we don't know that unless you specifically tell us, I find that about 90% of the people I mention that to on the channel do not know about that option. ;)
[15:15] <jjin> wilee-nilee: oops, probably should have mentioned it first then. also, when i go into BIOS to try to change the boot order, the USB containing ubuntu-gnome does not show up on the list of options, whereas the one w/ regular ubuntu does
[15:16] <jjin> wilee-nilee: just btw, when i say ubuntu-gnome i'm referring to this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/
[15:16] <jjin> wilee-nilee: i'm using the amd64 version, as that's the version that the ubuntu website seems to suggest that i use, given that i'm running windows 8 on a UEFI machine
[15:17] <wilee-nilee> jjin, That is the same release as the ubuntu.com one
[15:18] <jjin> wilee-nilee: yes i get that they're coming from the same source , but does this one not use GNOME instead of unity?
[15:18] <trietptm> Hello everybody, I have a question: Do I need to use tcpdump with parameter -s 65535 like in this link if I need to capture the full dump: https://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/AppToolstcpdump.html
[15:18] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Heh that is the remix I asked you about to begin with actually.
[15:18] <thrax> evening
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Yes it is gnome 3 only I believe.
[15:19] <jjin> wilee-nilee: oops. sorry
[15:19] <jjin> wilee-nilee: does that give you any idea of what the issues i'm facing might be?
[15:20] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Heh, no biggie with so many releases it is not easy to follow everyone. ;)
[15:20] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Not really I would check the md5sum and if okay reload it to the usb with unetbootin or another loader.
[15:22] <wilee-nilee> Might need to format the usb to just be sure.
[15:23] <lomo7> help please.. http://pastebin.com/7Bvh1pCE
[15:24] <lomo7> can't install openssh-server byobu
[15:24] <jjin> wilee-nilee: i used lili-usb to load per the suggestions from ubuntu.com, but i'll give some others a try
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, this sort of stand out what up with it. "322 not upgraded"
[15:25] <lomo7> wilee-nilee: what?
[15:25] <jjin> wilee-nilee: i'm also having a problem with "vanilla" ubuntu where it can boot to the menu where i choose to "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu". but when i choose to install, the screen goes black, but i can hear the notification sound indicating that the setup window's appeared. and when i adjust the volume, i can hear the feedback beeps
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, Your link says you have 322 ugrades being held.
[15:25] <lomo7> wilee-nilee: and what should i do? sorry im noob with it...
[15:26] <Adela> Hello. Where is the X.org cofiguration file in Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> jjin, You have a uefi setup so I have no clue, the ubuntu forums though has a mod who focuses on this. Maybe a nomodeset in the usb boot is needed not sure.
[15:27] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, Run a sudo apt-get update in the terminal and pastebin all the text.
[15:27] <jjin> wilee-nilee: i tried that, which made it able to display video...in three TINY copies of the desktop along the top of the monitor
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Not sure here.
[15:28] <mzaza> Is there an expected time to get bug fixes updates for Ubuntu 13.04? It's very sluggish on my i5 machine and nautlius and the desktop are extremely slow.
[15:28] <jjin> wilee-nilee: what REALLY confuses me is that the FIRST time i tried trying/installing ubuntu (yesterday morning) everything worked FLAWLESSLY. i had to stop though because i had to go somewhere
[15:28] <jjin> wilee-nilee: thanks for the help.
[15:29] <wilee-nilee> jjin, Bummer when that happens.
[15:30] <caelan> Hello, I need a really quick answer. I just installed Gnome 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.04 with GDM, and there is NO GNOME CLASSIC MODE. I need a really fast answer, thanks.
[15:30] <vonkrolok> sorry spab apparently left... is there someone quite experienced in syncing ipod and rhythmbox/banshee?
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> caelan, 3.8 is not a stable install
[15:31] <caelan> What do you mean?
[15:31] <caelan> Is there no Gnome Classic Mode on 3.8? I've read everywhere that there is.
[15:31] <vonkrolok> 3.6 is the stable one
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> caelan, It is not an official release for ubuntu it is in  development.
[15:31] <lomo7> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/RKtUdum2
[15:31] <caelan> But how do I get Classic Mode.
[15:31] <lomo7> i appreciate you attention!
[15:31] <lomo7> :)
[15:32] <mar> i want to install nVidia drivers, but I don't know the details of my card. So to do a smart scan, the nVidia page says 'The NVIDIA Smart Scan requires the latest version of Java'. I have Java runtime 7. What's the problem??
[15:32] <caelan> Hello.
[15:33] <caelan> How do I get classic mode on Gnome 3.8, I've installed it, but it's not visible in the session selection.
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, IT appears the earlier 322 not upgraded is associated with the openssh-server byobu install attempt, the regular update looks good. Not sure of a definitive answer to that install.
[15:34] <saju_m> How to create a corrupted tar file.  I want to test tar repair tool.
[15:34] <caelan> Hello?
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> caelan, The fall back is part of the gnome-shell install.
[15:35] <caelan> It's not fallback mode, it says there is a new Classic MOde in 3.8 to replace fallback.
[15:35] <caelan> Sorry, I am in a rush here.
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> and have some patience, lol
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> six minutes I will never get back lol
[15:36] <caelan> So, does anybody know why the new classic mode is not visible in the session selector on Gnome 3.8?
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> part of the gnome-shell none the less I believe
[15:36] <vigax> what is source of local video for unity video lens
[15:36] <tekk> hi guys, i'm trying to create a bootstable mac os x installer usb stick using ubuntu.... in a mac i'd use Disk Utility with a compressed .dmg... on Ubuntu i'm thinking this...
[15:36] <tekk> dmg2img InstallESD.dmg UncompressedInstallESD.img && dd if=UncompressedInstallESD.img of=/dev/sdx bs=8M
[15:36] <a1234> Hi guys I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu. Whenever I try I only get as far as the purple screen with the logos on the bottom. Afterwards the screen goes black and there are these strange vertical lines going across. Any suggestions?
[15:36] <caelan> OK, Thanks, so do I install Gnome shell?
[15:36] <tekk> has anyone tried similar?
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> caelan, Worth a try, however you are installing not really released packages considered unstable.
[15:37] <vigax> what is source of local videos for unity video lens?
[15:39] <vi956925> is it normal or anyway needed with any anti-virus or firewall for Ubuntu12.04 desktop? good to have just incase or waste?
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> !antivirus | vi956925
[15:40] <vi956925> thanks
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> !firewall | vi956925
[15:40] <vigax> what is source of local videos for unity video lens?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> helps to just have the links
[15:40] <Forage> is there a way to determine what new packages have been installed after upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04?
[15:40] <OhioGuy> hi ,, I recently installed ubuntu  13.04 over 10.04 on a dell laptop ,,,   I'm using the gnome user interface ,,, sometimes when I try to close an app ,  ( firefox , pdf viewer , opera , etc. ) I click the "red X"  , the line that it is on greys out , but the app doesn't close
[15:41] <lomo7> wilee-nilee: i did check - http://pastebin.com/pzKLZc8M
[15:41] <OhioGuy> if I click on the app itself ,, the red X turns back red ,, but further clicks will not close the app
[15:41] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, looks like a amd ati thang which I know nothing about.
[15:42] <Gh05t5> lovethecode,  sounds good to me I just don't know how sorry, im too new. I read an article online extoling the virtues of google dns as being faster. seems im not clever enough to follow the steps
[15:42] <OhioGuy> the way that I have found to close the app is to minimize it , the restore ,,, then it will close with the red X
[15:43] <OhioGuy> does anyone have any ideas how to resolve this problem ?
[15:43] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, When you say over what does that mean?
[15:43] <OhioGuy> wilee-nile  , I did an upgrade
[15:43] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, In what way?
[15:45] <wilee-nilee> fresh install with the partition being formatted?
[15:45] <OhioGuy> wilee-nile , booted a live dvd ,,, did the install from the desk top , and when asked , I told it to upgrade
[15:47] <Gh05t5> are there default wired connection settings I can restore to?
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, Not sure I understand, I'm not aware of a upgrade from 10.04 straight to 13.04, that is not a complete overwrite.
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> might be one just never have seen it.
[15:50] <gizmis> Hello, Can you help? Which team Ubuntu shows such as most teams use?
[15:50] <nyuszika7h> hi, could someone please help me? my colors work fine in uxterm but not in uxrvt. screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/hyBn25l.png - Xresources: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5612728/
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> gizmis, Can you explain that better, this is ubuntu support in general.
[15:51] <OhioGuy> wilee-nile  ,,, I might have been mistaken  ,, it may have been 10.10  ,,,,   since it is "over written " is there any way to find out what it was originally
[15:52] <Gh05t5> can someone help me configure a wired connection please?
[15:52] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, Not that I know of, however if it was a fresh install basically, I would check the dvd's md5sum it might be a bad install.
[15:53] <adamk> Gh05t5: We can only help if you actually tell us what you are trying to do and ask a real question...
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, Did you have a separate home?
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> or do you I guess
[15:53] <Gh05t5> Hello, I wonder if someone can help me set up my wired connection, it worked when I had a clean install however something has broken it when i tried to change dns to google
[15:53] <gizmis> wilee-nilee, I want to see the most frequently used commands in the terminal, as history shows all used commands, and I want to most frequently used
[15:53] <Gh05t5> adamk, is that specific enough to be useful?
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> gizmis, when and where that context.
[15:54] <MartynKeigher> hi
[15:54] <adamk> Gh05t5: In what way is it broken?  Can you ping your router?
[15:54] <Gh05t5> adamk, I then deleted the connection and tried to create a new one, however it still doesn'c connect. I beleive it is caused by me attemptig to follow a guide to start using google dns at 8.8.8.8
[15:55] <Gh05t5> adamk, I will try now, so i will disconnect wireless to try that, brb
[15:55] <OhioGuy> wilee-nile ,, ok   , I'll check that ,,, another question ,,with the previous version , when I closed the lid,,,  the system shut down ,, now the only options are suspend , or do nothing ,,, is there a way to make it shutdown on lid closure ?
[15:55] <wilee-nilee> gizmis, The ones you use or the community uses?
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, In settings and power there are options
[15:56] <gizmis> wilee-nilee, I need to see what commands are mainly used by the terminal
[15:57] <OhioGuy> wilee-nile  ,,  I missed your other question ,, "Did you have a separate home?" ,, I'm not sure I understand that question
[15:58] <Gh05t5> admak, I cannot ping from wired connection. returns message sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[15:58] <Gh05t5> nope oops ignore that
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> gizmis, By you? I don't thin k there is a frequent use search, at least not that I know of, there is .bash_history in home.
[15:58] <Gh05t5> admak, ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[15:58] <Gh05t5> but works from wifi
[15:59] <Gh05t5> but works from wifi
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, Some user have a home partition seperate from / so that yo can upgrade releases and keep the same home
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> users*
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Gh05t5, on ethernet , does route -n show an IP?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> OhioGuy  with a separate /home paritition, it's easy to re-install or fresh install ubuntu, as your personal files and settings are left untouched
[16:01] <OhioGuy> wilee-nilee  , I didn't know about that ,,, I just took the defauts on the install/upgrade
[16:01] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, How do I check that sorry over my head that one
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Gh05t5, in the terminal , type , route -n
[16:02] <rdp1408> Can anyone help my get my laptop running ubuntu connected to my wireless network? It won't connect
[16:02] <Korpcake> route -n shows your routing tables
[16:02] <OhioGuy> wilee-nilee ,, when I did the upgrade ,,, my existing files and settings were retained
[16:02] <Korpcake> yes it will give you your ip address
[16:03] <johnjohn1011> MonkeyDust: what's the best way to move /home to a new partition on the hard drive as I have one partition that mounts as / . ???
[16:03] <OhioGuy> MonkeyDust,, when I did the upgrade ,,, my existing files and settings were retained
[16:04] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, it gives a result which part of the data returned is relevant?
[16:04] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, it gives a result which part of the data returned is relevant?
[16:04] <bigpete01> Hello
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Gh05t5, an IP address would be good , like 192.168....something
[16:05] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/M2aFd572
[16:05] <bigpete01> I need assistnace in getting wireless and wired connection working for ubuntu 12.04 on toshiba laptop
[16:05] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/M2aFd572
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> OhioGuy, I'm not aware of that sort of upgrade, does not mean it does not exist, seems to be part of the problem as a guess on my part.
[16:06] <Korpcake> clear
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> at least from wherever you started 10.04 or 10.10 to 13.04
[16:06] <vonkrolok> anyone with a knowledge of rhythmbox/banshee and ipod touch sync?
[16:07] <Trexity> how can i make xfce application menu look exactly like windows 7 start menu
[16:07] <OhioGuy> wilee-nilee ,,, ok    I guess I'll live with it ,,, or try to reinstall again  , thanks for your help
[16:07] <bigpete01> I need assistnace in getting wireless and wired connection working for ubuntu 12.04 on toshiba laptop, please.
[16:08] <spicer> can anyone tell me.... how to connect D-link DWM-156 usb modem in ubuntu or debian????
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !home | johnjohn1011
[16:08] <bigpete01> Hello
[16:09] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, was that useful?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Gh05t5, ok you have a gateway to the router/modem , your ethernet is eth1 , so run eth1=dhcp in the console , then run, sudo ifconfig eth1 up, then , sudo dhclient eth1
[16:09] <pii3> i have dual monitor on my ubuntu desktop, How can i tell remote desktop service which monitor to display, When im connecting from vnc viewer ?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> johnjohn1011  as for me, when I first did it, I simply erased the disk repartitioned and reinstalled ubuntu
[16:09] <Esor> Hi. I'm experiencing a weird issue. Everytime I press FN audio volume control buttons It goes up or down to maximum and then it freezes unity and I've to reset my pc.
[16:10] <gfdsa> Hello, I#ve got some problems with my samba configuration: (smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/bqE9g3bH ). for example user daniel can login and acces "Daten" , all the other users can login but can't access.. Some part of the logfile says:
[16:10] <gfdsa> [2013/04/28 18:07:11.395072,  0] smbd/service.c:995(make_connection_snum)
[16:10] <gfdsa>   Can't become connected user!
[16:10] <johnjohn1011> I don't know why ubuntu only defaulting to one / partition.  but that may be from a while back.
[16:10] <Trexity> how can i make my xfce applications menu look like windows 7 start menu
[16:10] <Trexity> im going for the windows 7 look
[16:10] <bigpete01> Hello
[16:10] <Trexity> im on xubuntu
[16:10] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, Ookay ran the commands shall i retry connection?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> !themes | Trexity
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ghost64, yes
[16:11] <vigax> what is source of local videos for unity video lens?
[16:11] <bigpete01> Hello, I need assistnace in getting wireless and wired connection working for ubuntu 12.04 on toshiba laptop, thanks in advance
[16:11] <Trexity> im not talking about the icon man im talking about the menu itself
[16:12] <pii3> i have dual monitor on my ubuntu desktop, How can i tell remote desktop service which monitor to display, When im connecting from vnc viewer ??
[16:12] <spicer> quit
[16:12] <theadmin> Trexity: You'd have to re-write the menu... It's not possible to change how it looks
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, If inboard run lspci in a terminal and identify the card if usb run lsusb
[16:13] <Trexity> you can use a custom menu file
[16:13] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, retried connection still nothing
[16:13] <Trexity> but i was trying to find a pre made one that looks like win 7
[16:14] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, retried connection still nothing
[16:15] <BluesKaj> Gh05t5, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart , in the console
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Trexity  i guess Zorin OS is what you want, but that's not supported here
[16:15] <bigpete01> wiliee-nille, what info does that produce?
[16:15] <Trexity> everything already looks like windows 7
[16:15] <Trexity> except the menu layout
[16:15] <bigpete01> Sorry but I am a linux newbie
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, The ethernet and wireless info needed to help you.
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> Trexity  do'nt mention the name of that other OS too often here, it's insulting
[16:16] <jerio> test
[16:16] <johnjohn1011> is handbrake the best program now to backup dvds to the hard drive?
[16:16] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, no joy
[16:16] <theadmin> !best | johnjohn1011
[16:16] <bigpete01> network controller: Realtek Semiconductor RTL818CE
[16:17] <bigpete01> Ethernet controller: Atheros Commuications AR8162 Fast ehternet
[16:17] <bigpete01> btw, thank you Wilee-nille
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Gh05t5, did you run,  sudo dhclient eth1 and if so was there any output , just need to know if it output anything
[16:18] <Trexity> monk mind your own buisness i was simply asking for help editing a custom app-menu file thats all this isnt for my pc its for a friends
[16:18] <Trexity> he wants the system to look and behave like windows but its ubuntu xfce
[16:19] <Gh05t5> BluesKaj, there was no output just put me back to command prompt
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, Bummer realtek cards are a bit of a pain, here is a link thats about the best I can do. http://askubuntu.com/questions/205575/12-10-x64-rtl8188ce-intermittent-slow-internet-connection
[16:21] <johnjohn1011> trexity: i can't confirm if this would work http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028896/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7.html
[16:21] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee
[16:21] <tanstaafl> anyone answering today?
[16:22] <tanstaafl> I deleted a file from /usr/share/applications as root on accident.  Anyone know how to restore?
[16:22] <tanstaafl> ubuntu 13.04
[16:22] <bigpete01> problem is wired connection not working either
[16:23] <rdp1408> Can anyone help me get my laptop to connect to WiFi?
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, It has its own problems from what I can see on a web search.
[16:24] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee, please explain
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, Both can be made to work I think it just is not a new user area of ease of assembly.
[16:25] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee, I am reading, I see the challenge.
[16:25] <rdp1408> Can someone help me get my laptop (Ubuntu 12.04) to connect to wifi?
[16:26] <bigpete01> wilee-nilee, any idea on the wired connection, AR8162
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, Cool, this may be somewhat of a self discovery endeavor, you might make a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.
[16:26] <tanstaafl> I deleted a file from /usr/share/applications as root on accident.  Anyone know how to restore?
[16:26] <tanstaafl> ubuntu 13.04
[16:27] <pii3> i have dual monitor on my ubuntu desktop, How can i tell remote desktop service which monitor to display, When im connecting from vnc viewer ??
[16:27] <theadmin> !patience | tanstaafl
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, Not with any definitive answers I have not had the pain/pleasure of having to deal with these. ;)
[16:27] <caelan> Hello, I have installed Gnome 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.04. I installed it so I could use the all new Classic Mode that replaced Fallback mode. However, I cannot see the new Classic Mode when I log on (In the session selection box). Does anybody know how to use classic mode? Thanks.
[16:28] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee, I searched how to fix AR8162, can I download "compat-wireless-3.5.1-1-snpc.tar.bz2" and put it on a thumb drive
[16:28] <mongoose> Hi all
[16:28] <theadmin> caelan: Software from third parties, especailly updates from third parties, is not supported
[16:28] <plotino> hello everyone
[16:29] <plotino> i have a problem with lubuntu
[16:29] <plotino> i have in stalled yesterday
[16:29] <Gnea> !lubuntu | plotino
[16:29] <caelan> So, theadmin, where can I go to get support for this problem?
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, I have no idea.
[16:29] <theadmin> caelan: #gnome I suppose. It's likely a missing session package.
[16:29] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee, LOL
[16:29] <caelan> OK, thanks theadmin.
[16:30] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee, crazy, it works flawless on one machine and nothing on the other.
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, You would not want me guessing now would you. ;)
[16:31] <mongoose> please  advise a  cool markdown editor for ubuntu
[16:31] <bigpete01> Wilee-nilee, why not, I am, ;-)
[16:31] <kwelndar> tanstaafl, did you delete from command line?
[16:31] <bestdnd> hi. i opened amule from Terminal. how can i close the terminal window without closing amule?
[16:31] <theadmin> bestdnd: You'd have to start the command with &disown so that the terminal doesn't "own" it.
[16:32] <tanstaafl> kwelndar, no  I ran gksu nautilus and navigated to the directory.  I was cutting and pasting icons to my home directory (to remove them from unity bar) then putting them back.
[16:32] <tanstaafl> on one I accidentally moved to trash and can't restore it.
[16:33] <bestdnd> but then i can't see any messege amule is sending to it
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> bigpete01, lol, I will leave that to you, I have a thing about bricking others setups, never have yet, not gonna start now, lol.
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> bestdnd  use the ampersand &     like: amule&
[16:33] <kwelndar> tanstaafl, and it doesn't show up in Trash?
[16:34] <bestdnd> thanks
[16:34] <tanstaafl> it shows in trash
[16:34] <tanstaafl> kwelndar, permission denied upon restore
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> tanstaafl  because you used gksudo, you have to use it again to restore, i guess
[16:37] <sveinse> Why does Chrome report outdated java, when chrome plugins reports the newest version? And on java.com the version check, chrome first reports outdated java when the check is started, but reports OK, has latest version afterwards
[16:37] <kwelndar> tanstaafl, if you are still using the same gksu-ed nautilus it should work
[16:37] <sveinse> I have oracle java PPA where I download upstream jre
[16:37] <kwelndar> tanstaafl, but you might have to open a terminal
[16:38] <tanstaafl> kwelndar, gksu nautilus loads root trash.  The files appear in user trash.
[16:38] <tanstaafl> kwelndar, if I knew the directory location of trash on ubuntu 13.04 I could solve the problem handily.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> sveinse, some sites wrongly report java is not up to date , sometimes it's a redirect to scam site if click on their upgrade link , usually meant for MS Windows
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> tanstaafl  try ~/.local/share/Trash/
[16:40] <tanstaafl> MonkeyDust, there they are!  thanks
[16:41] <sveinse> BluesKaj: Heh. Even java.com reports not up to date, but then is reports latest after pressing "run anyways". And with the message "java outdated" is reported by chrome, not by the web page
[16:41] <kwelndar> MonkeyDust, beat me to it
[16:43] <BluesKaj> sveinse, chromium or chrome ?
[16:43] <narcos> Should I be able to communicate with a USB serial device by accessing /dev/bus/usb/<addr>/<id> ?
[16:43] <narcos> ( because I can't seem to )
[16:44] <sveinse> BluesKaj: I initially discovered it in chrome, but it seems to pertain in chromiumchro
[16:44] <sveinse> I think I found it. Bug in chrome: http://askubuntu.com/questions/166334/chrome-reports-java-plugin-outdated
[16:44] <chron> hi, i just set up a 13.04 system, but trying to install nvidia drivers(gt 220) for vdpau support just ends in an X freeze after ~1min, are there any known bugs regarding this?
[16:45] <kwelndar> sveinse, I think, but am not sure that it is a FEATURE of chrome to show outdated Java plugin, because all Java plugin versions have serious security flaws and should not be used at this time!
[16:46] <sveinse> kwelndar: Well, I tend to agree. Doesn't help though when Norwegian government forces us to sign in using java to be able to deliver our tax returns :P
[16:46] <kwelndar> Using command line Java is still fine, but use in any browser as a plugin is asking for serious trouble
[16:47] <kwelndar> sveinse, ouch, that hurts. I remember hearing that a lot of banks across the waters use Java
[16:47] <Zipppyyyy> I'm trying to do an upgrade but get this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5612954/ and when I try to do an apt-get -f install it fails, how can i get rid of this error without wrecking the existing mysql install?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> sveinse, yes then there is definitely a problem if a legit site is giving you the update required message :P
[16:49] <sveinse> kwelndar: Yep. A system they called BankID. Its a security-dongle challenge-response thing based on java. Java is great, because with it there is at least a minuscule change for linux support. But quoting them after the resent security issues with java "we're desperately searching out alternatives to java".
[16:50] <sveinse> s/change/chance/
[16:51] <Korpcake> is there a way i can change the name of my computer? currently its something long and rediculous
[16:51] <kwelndar> sveinse, I like the "desperately" ;^)
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Korpcake  sudo -e /etc/hostname
[16:52] <jrib> !hostname | Korpcake
[16:52] <Korpcake> thanks
[16:53] <javier> hi. I accidentally deleted an important folder from my HDD. I'm trying to recover them using photorec, but there is no way I know to recover  the file names and their location in folder. Is such thing possible? The names and folder are important for the meaning of the files (like, where were they taken, that is imoprtant and can't be guessed from the picture itself). Is it possible? Thanks!!!
[16:55] <dhiedeaf> everobody... is there a solution about the games flash player on ubuntu?
[16:56] <dhiedeaf> flash player games on firefox is slow
[16:57] <dhiedeaf> why is that?
[17:01] <sect0r> I have multi monitors and want to set different wallpapers for each one, how can I do it?
[17:04] <tb01110100> Will installing ubunt touch on my nexus 10 wipe the sdcard folder? I need to know if I need to back that up.
[17:05] <Korpcake> if you are installing it to the internal memory then no it wont format your sdcard
[17:06] <domi_> sexenbretagne
[17:06] <ulkesh> Though it's probably a good idea to back up your sdcard anyway.
[17:07] <helder_raptor> 0Hi
[17:07] <helder_raptor> Hi
[17:07] <Korpcake> True story... espicially if it has significant stuff on it.
[17:08] <helder_raptor> I want to develop an ubuntu for my personal use with minimial applications but with gnome.
[17:09] <OerHeks> !remaster
[17:09] <jonuts> since upgrading to raring, my notifications show up in a small blue bar at the top of the screen. anyone have any ideas?
[17:12] <netherlands6> hi I would like to know why in system settings there two differents online accounts? I try the one that have an ac adapter icon like and I dont see tray icon
[17:14] <sevencipher> how do i bring back the dialog that asked me for my encryption phrase for my home directory, i Xd out of instead
[17:15] <helmut_> hi
[17:15] <xebra> hi, how can I open a program in a window with no window decoration (no borders)? There must be some kind of flag to include when starting the program from the console, but I don't know what it is. Thanks
[17:15] <meerkat> my DNS has stopped working. I can only connect with IP-addresses. help. :(
[17:15] <jrib> xebra: what program?
[17:15] <netherlands6> hi I would like to know why in system settings there two differents online accounts? I try the one that have an ac adapter icon like and I dont see tray icon
[17:16] <vi956925> hi, i installed Pidgin where I may have entered some wrong data for Skype, so now it crash every time I try start  it.. I tried "apt-get remove pidgin" & "apt-get autoremove" which said it removed it, however after "apt-get install pidgin" again, the same user data is in Pidgin (the wrong data I entered) so it still keeps crashing..:\  any idea how to fix that, and also how/where do I manage data it keeps like that (I thought it removed it when I told it 
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> vi956925 use purge rather the remove
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> than*
[17:16] <Troy^> hmm. im having difficulties getting ubuntu 13.04 to dual boot with windows 7. when i install ubuntu on my second hard drive. botting into windows is broken. also booting into ubuntu seems to hang when selecting Ubuntu in the grub menu. took me three reboots selecting ubuntu in the grub menu to get ubuntu to boot. So what's the easiest way to get both working from the grub menu prior to ubuntu install?
[17:16] <vi956925> oh, cool, thanks!
[17:17] <sevencipher> @vi there may also be a .pidgin folder in your home directory if thats not deleted you could try that
[17:17] <xebra> jrib, specifically, google chrome (chromium). I'd run it as an app so I get no navigation bars, etc. But I get the (metacity?) frame for the window. I'd like to take that away too
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, Are you using the something other option in the ubuntu install, the manual install and pointing grub to its mbr?
[17:18] <Troy^> wilee-nilee i tried using the something other option. Where exactly should i be pointing grub. The way the menus worked was some what confusing
[17:19] <jrib> xebra: if you always want it to not have window decorations, then you can check out (hmm I forget the name.  one sec)...  Also, there might be some compiz settings (I don't know)
[17:19] <sevencipher> logout
[17:19] <sevencipher> oops hue hue
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, You want grub in the first gui after choosing something other, it is a dropdown choice, into the mbr sdX of the second HD. Check the HD with sudo fdisk -l to confirm the HD not the partitions.
[17:20] <Troy^> also wilee-nilee i have a efi mobo
[17:20] <jrib> xebra: devilspie
[17:20] <mank319> Hey there :-)
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Troy^ Ah the wonderful uefi
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, Forget the previous mbr stuff.
[17:20] <mank319> I have a problem concerning my samba setup
[17:21] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: i hate this invention. I could not seem to get it working with that manual
[17:21] <Yionel> Hi \o. I have problems with my guest Ubuntu VM (virtualbox) on Windows 7 x64 host. friends-app doesn't work :'(  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5613059/ can you help me ?
[17:21] <mank319> i have set my share to browseable = yes
[17:21] <mank319> but it does not appear to be
[17:21] <Yionel> Ubuntu 13.04 up to date :)
[17:21] <mank319> even testparm does not output that line
[17:21] <mank319> what could be the problem if even testparm omits this line?
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, The ubuntu forums is your best help with uefi.
[17:22] <wizard_A> is there no other way other than hostpad to make ad-hoc(with internet sharing) visible to android devices??
[17:24] <Eeeeeeeeeeetan> #mc_ghast/女陰
[17:26] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: so i guess i need to create an efi partition using live cd and gparted. Then run the installer?
[17:26] <mank319> http://pastebin.com/MPfbbNBt
[17:27] <mank319> thats my smb share config
[17:27] <jordan4ibanez> I installed my proprietary nvidia driver (gtx650|Nividia-313), but I've been wondering since 10.10, how do I get my boot screen to show the nice image again?
[17:27] <mank319> as mentioned above the browseable attribute appears to be ommited
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, I would not know, personally if it were me I would use the forums and the one mod who knows this stuff best.
[17:29] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: uefi has been nothing but a pain in the but.
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, It seems to be, the manufacturers have their own tweaks it is a bit if a hit and miss to get working, that's why I would confer with the one person I know has the closest
[17:34] <blackjack138> hi
[17:34] <gummyw0rmz_> hello world
[17:34] <blackjack138> irc is dead =X
[17:34] <DEEF> hey
[17:34] <blackjack138> whats up
[17:35] <blackjack138> nobody wants to chat ??
[17:35] <mank319> the skies
[17:35] <mank319> well if you want to :)
[17:36] <mank319> how are you blackjack138?
[17:36] <blackjack138> i'am fine and you?
[17:37] <MarconM> 0.0
[17:37] <zgudino> good news all over the internet. L4D2 will be ported to ubuntu :D
[17:37] <zgudino> thats hot!!!
[17:38] <blackjack138> \o/
[17:38] <MarconM> print {"Hello, Word!"}
[17:38] <zgudino> i can finally save some money and setup my gaming rig with ubuntu loaded
[17:39] <danieltree> I want to install ubuntu 13.04 along side Windows 8 ..I am at the partitioning stage of installation...what device should I use fot bootloader installation???
[17:39] <danieltree> the disk with efi
[17:39] <danieltree> ?
[17:39] <blackjack138> fat32
[17:39] <danieltree> or simply /dev/sdb
[17:39] <DEEF> I wanna install ubuntu from my usb stick (which is already bootable), should I just copy the iso to the stick?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> DEEF, use unetbootin or dd
[17:40] <blackjack138> u need a software that make a boot from pendrive for linux iso
[17:40] <DEEF> alright cheers
[17:40] <BluesKaj> !steam | zgudino,
[17:41] <blackjack138> how to change resolution on ubuntu 8.10?
[17:42] <helge> hey.. my installed crashed when i tried to connect to wifi during install process.. is there a way to check if ubuntu has been installed correctly or restart install? some minor things seem to be missing
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> helge, I would just reinstall it.
[17:46] <OerHeks> helge, boot again, and start a live session, to see if wireless works out-of-the-box, then start the install
[17:46] <DEEF> right, brb on ubuntu *crosses fingers*
[17:47] <helge> hmmmm.. ok tanx
[17:47] <zgudino> yep @BluesKaj @ubottu i am already using steam for linux :D
[17:48] <helge> wifi works... btw the menu on the left, when i click an open program there, shouldnt it minimize?
[17:48] <helge> it crashed just in the end of it
[17:48] <helge> also ... multiple desktops
[17:48] <helge> wheres that?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> @ isn't necessary to highlight nicks on irc zgudino, just the nick will do
[17:49] <Makror> Hello there I was using ubuntu 12.10 from the live CD  on my laptop and I could turn on the two finger scroll for my , now that I have installed it I can't , there is no touchpad area just mouse! Can anybody help?
[17:51] <helge> never mind :)
[17:51] <crazy2k> Does anyone know if I can make remastersys create a livecd without the installer?
[17:52] <zgudino> ah cool BluesKaj
[17:52] <Alexia_Death> anyone with a Wacom around? dist-upgrade just totally borked any and all tablet use.
[17:52] <zgudino> thanks
[17:52] <Alexia_Death> to 13.04
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> crazy2k, What installer?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> Makror, I would look on the web with your computer model and missing tap pad in mouse.
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> askubuntu.com/questions/228166/why-is-the-touchpad-tab-missing here is one I found
[17:55] <crazy2k> wilee-nilee: When you use the "distribution" option, remastersys adds an installer to the livecd.
[17:55] <Psycholiquid71> I am trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are ahppening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, and two I am getting an erro on reboot "mountall: disconnected form Plymouth any ideas guys and gals
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> crazy2k, Not sure.
[17:56] <Psycholiquid71> using 12.04.2 terminal only
[17:56] <crazy2k> BTW, I just went to http://remastersys.com/ and apparently the project owner got mad and decided not to maintain the project anymore.
[17:57] <jmnoz> is there any documentation on how to manage daemons that needs to access files on an encrypted (ecryptfs) home directory?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> crazy2k, It had been cancelled previously, than resurrected I'm not surprised it is basically over.
[17:59] <Makror> wilee-nilee, I've been looking on the web for a solution for quite a while and so far I got nothing, the thing is that it was working from the live cd so I know it works just have to figure out how
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> crazy2k, YOU might look here as well. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> Makror, Has to be a driver or missing app.
[17:59] <crazy2k> wilee-nilee: Thank you, but I have had no success doing it manually.
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> Makror, most likely, the link I posted has some apps listed
[18:01] <Tatuus> Hola, soo... when i upgrade 12.10 -> 13.04 from terminal, sudo do-release-upgrade -d  -the upgrade process doesn't touch my personal files, right? Just checking....
[18:01] <madprops> is it normal for htop to show a highter cpu ussage than all the processes shown combined?
[18:02] <Makror> wilee-nilee, I'll try to reinstall the driver, thanks
[18:02] <madprops> Tatuus, i think you don't need the -d anymore
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> Tatuus, Should not be backed up if you really care.
[18:02] <bekks> madprops: Yes, because htop does not show all process but only the ones fitting on your screen.
[18:02] <Tatuus> about -d i was thinking what is it in essence ?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> Tatuus, You can set the software sources to all releases and do it in the update manager.
[18:04] <Psycholiquid71> I am trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are ahppening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, and two I am getting an erro on reboot "mountall: disconnected form Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[18:05] <Tatuus> Ok thanks
[18:05] <bradley> can anyone here help me? i cant log on to google.su and i just got ubuntu
[18:06] <madprops> bekks, ah I didn't know that
[18:09] <MartynKeigher> hey all. i installed my wordpress website in /var/www/mklab and i installed tt-rss and placed it in /var/www/ttrss . if i go to the link http://lab.martynkeigher.com/ttrss it works fine... BUT if i try to go to it via my wordpress homepage @ http://lab.martynkeigher.com it does not. why is this??
[18:09] <Jewfro-Macabbi> on upgrade to raring, anyone else having problems with dovecot-postfix and mail stack delivery?
[18:10] <MartynKeigher> it is try to use the theme of my wordpress install, but how do i disable this for the /var/www/ttrss folder IF navigated from within my wrodpress website?
[18:10] <aliendude5300> Hi, I'm having trouble getting Google Chrome to install in Ubuntu 13.04.
[18:11] <Psycholiquid71> I am trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are happening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, and two I am getting an error on reboot "mountall: disconnected form Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[18:11] <aliendude5300> When I try to install the Chrome package, it says that the libudev0 dependency is not satisfiable.
[18:12] <MartynKeigher> sudo apt-get update
[18:12] <MartynKeigher> sudo      apt-get install libudev0
[18:12] <MartynKeigher> do that
[18:12] <mzaza> sudo apt-get install update not working in Ubuntu 13?
[18:12] <MartynKeigher> then try chrome again
[18:12] <phewl> apt-get install update isnt a command
[18:13] <_zoom_> hi, am able to connect pptp client with network-manager but it's not the case when using manuaconfigs
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, In what way, any errors?
[18:13] <_zoom_> any ideas?
[18:13] <aliendude5300> MartynKeigher, when I do that second command, I get this: E: Package 'libudev0' has no installation candidate
[18:13] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: Unable to locate package
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, What is the pckg?
[18:14] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: I am trying to install updates.
[18:14] <hugogf> hi !!!
[18:14] <hugogf> :)
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, You running sudo apt-get update  ?
[18:14] <hugogf> pv2 i need help on zenbook ux32dv
[18:14] <MartynKeigher> what version of google chrome?
[18:14] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: sudo apt-get upgrade :-/ I forgout...
[18:14] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install packagename or sudo apt-get update , mzaza
[18:15] <aliendude5300> MartynKeigher: Google Chome stable, 64-bit. Trying to install it on Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit.
[18:15] <hugogf> i need help on zenbook ux32dv
[18:15] <MartynKeigher> wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/175-0ubuntu19/+build/4325788/+files/libudev0_175-0ubuntu19_amd64.deb
[18:16] <aliendude5300> alright, that's done downloading. I'll try installing that now
[18:16] <MartynKeigher> k. once thats done....install chrome again
[18:16] <MartynKeigher> u using CLI or GUI?
[18:17] <DJones> !details | hugogf
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> install of ubuntu 13
[18:17] <aliendude5300> cli. using sudo dpkg -i
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> k
[18:17] <aliendude5300> That worked, thanks
[18:17] <Psycholiquid71> I am trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are happening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, and two I am getting an error on reboot "mountall: disconnected form Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> so chrome works now?
[18:17] <wizard_A> is there no other way other than hostpad to make ad-hoc(with internet sharing) visible to android devices??
[18:17] <aliendude5300> yes.
[18:17] <aliendude5300> :)
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> aweseom!
[18:18] <MartynKeigher> there were several known issues with it, see here if your intrested.... http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002
[18:20] <aliendude5300> it's rather odd that they would remove a dependency needed for chrome to work from the repos like that...
[18:21] <mongooze> advise me  a cool markdown editor for debian/ubuntu  please
[18:21] <wizard_A> is there no other way other than hostpad to make ad-hoc(with internet sharing) visible to android devices??
[18:21] <OerHeks> !editor
[18:22] <rymate1234> !html
[18:22] <clintonc> !tmux
[18:22] <clintonc> answer me ubottu :(
[18:23] <clintonc> oh dear, I stumped him
[18:23] <clintonc> now I'll never learn about tmux
[18:23] <OerHeks> clintonc, try !info or !file
[18:23] <clintonc> !info tmux
[18:24] <clintonc> fancy
[18:24] <clintonc> !file tmux
[18:24] <clintonc> What is '!file' for?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> clintonc, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[18:24] <Psycholiquid71> I am having an issue trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are happening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, but mount -a works, and two I am getting an error on reboot "mountall: disconnected from Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> !files tmux
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> thought it was a plural
[18:27] <clintonc> evidently both are supposed to work
[18:27] <Rolenun> I've been playing around with kmymoney....but it doesnt allow transactions to be entered. Has anyone run into a similiar problem? (This is a fresh install of ubuntu)
[18:27] <clintonc> "An explanation of how files and directories are organized on ubuntu"
[18:28] <aliendude5300> Is there anyway to get back the old Nautilus or something similar? I am not liking this new version. It feels like a lot of very useful functionality was either hidden or removed, and they took out most if not all of the menus
[18:29] <cebor> i use 13.04 on my thinkpad, my screen doesn't dim down while idling on battery, can somebody help me with this problem ??
[18:29] <charlton> how is that a problem?
[18:29] <sagredo> hello my gdm is not working
[18:29] <sagredo> i am not sure why
[18:29] <sagredo> both ubuntu 12 and 13 discs give errors while launching
[18:29] <sagredo> can osmeone please help me with an alternative GDM
[18:29] <charlton> What errors?
[18:30] <sagredo> charlton:
[18:30] <charlton> sagredo: What are the errors you get
[18:30] <sagredo> hrmmm
[18:30] <sagredo> it says
[18:30] <sagredo> BUG:
[18:30] <sagredo> cannot something kernel
[18:31] <sagredo> ah here it is charlton
[18:31] <sagredo> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request
[18:31] <sagredo> PLEASE help me
[18:31] <sagredo> i have linux files windows does not recognize i need to backup
[18:32] <sagredo> i am currently in a 10.10 liveCD as it is the only one that starts at all
[18:32] <sagredo> but now it will not even enter x
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> sagredo, You have a usb stick?
[18:33] <sagredo> wilee-nilee: no :(
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> sagredo, A RW disc?
[18:33] <Psycholiquid71> I am having an issue trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are happening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, but mount -a works, and two I am getting an error on reboot "mountall: disconnected from Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[18:33] <sagredo> wilee-nilee: I have already burned a number a of CDs that just return a lot of errors
[18:33] <sagredo> no RW
[18:33] <sagredo> just CDrs
[18:34] <sagredo> i already tried LTS and 13
[18:34] <sagredo> both fail
[18:34] <sagredo> only this 10.10 disc is running
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> sagredo, Have you checked the sums on the ISO's and burned at slowest sped?
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> speed*
[18:34] <sagredo> ...
[18:34] <sagredo> no
[18:34] <sagredo> never heard of that
[18:34] <Tatuus> sagredo, try thru USB stick? if you have one
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | sagredo
[18:34] <adamk_> sagredo, I'd also recommend running memtest on the machine in question.
[18:34] <sagredo> i do not have a USB stick
[18:35] <sagredo> adamk_:
[18:35] <Tatuus> CD's can be problematic on some older drives
[18:35] <sagredo> okay, I ran the 13.04 wubi
[18:35] <sagredo> which adds memtest to my boot options
[18:35] <sagredo> but i can tell you it will be fine
[18:35] <sagredo> i believe something is wrong with the video card
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> sagredo, I believe all the ISO's are bigger than a cd
[18:35] <sagredo> i cannot check PMs
[18:35] <sagredo> wilee-nilee: i burned to DVDrs
[18:36] <sagredo> *
[18:36] <Fluxx> hi all, I need some help if possible
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> Fluxx, You want us to guess?
[18:37] <Tatuus> Fluxx, always just ask
[18:37] <Fluxx> :) sorry wilee-nilee ...I have an issue with screen resolution in Ubuntu 12.04
[18:38] <Fluxx> Can't have the 1280x1024 res
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> Fluxx, xrandr not show that
[18:38] <embrik> tryiong to re cover files from a broken HD - it doesn't show up anywhere. Write dmesg but nothing. ANy suggestions?
[18:38] <Rhenzar> Do any of you have experience with dual-booting on a Windows 8 machine?
[18:38] <Fluxx> nope and don't know how to add it (if its possible) wilee-nilee
[18:38] <Tatuus> Fluxx, you need proprietary drivers most likely
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Rhenzar
[18:39] <Fluxx> Tatuus: but in the bootloader i can have that res
[18:39] <embrik> thought I sshould use photorec - but since the hd doesn't show....
[18:39] <aliendude5300> Rhenzar, If you have a UEFI Windows 8 machine, you will likely run into problems. If it's an older, non-UEFI system, it works fine
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> embrik, Can you dd it to another HD?
[18:40] <Tatuus> Fluxx, you used to have that res though? or never ?
[18:40] <embrik> wilee-nilee, Since it doesn't show anywhere I dont know what dev it is
[18:41] <PunkSpoon> helo!!
[18:41] <Fluxx> Tatuus: i have it on windows and today, after a hdd crash installed a new hdd w/ ubuntu on it but can't get anything more than 1024x700
[18:41] <Tatuus> Fluxx, i can't think of anything but a driver issue...
[18:41] <PunkSpoon> Sourav Singh.. can u read this???
[18:42] <Fluxx> Tatuus: how can be solved?
[18:42] <embrik> It's a sata 500 gb barracuda - never epxerienced that nothing happens. Can't find it in bios nor in linux
[18:42] <Tatuus> Fluxx, from software sources, check the propriatary driver updates on
[18:42] <embrik> got to go - bye
[18:45] <Rhenzar> aliendude5300: Sorry, I was afk for a while :D I'm running a non-UEFI system, but the problem is that after Ubuntu boots up the first few times, refuses to load and stays on the purple screen but without a logo.
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Rhenzar
[18:46] <Rhenzar> wilee-nilee: You've got this down, man.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> to much freetime
[18:52] <seyfarth> Since updating to 13.04, the sidebar/taskbar/whatever doesn't react to the mouse hovering over it at all. Is this expected behavior?
[18:52] <withnale> hello. how do you upgrade from 13.04 beta to final? I've done apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and rebooted and the kernel is still 3.8.0. I thought release was later than that.
[18:53] <zianya> hello, can anyone help me with this webcam? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]
[18:53] <hachre> withnale: 3.8.0 is the final, if you want something newer you gotta use the mainline kernel ppa
[18:53] <bekks> withnale: Just run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:53] <DJones> !final | withnale
[18:53] <seyfarth> Also the "auto hide" functionality still doesn't work. It didn't work in 12.10 either.
[18:53] <SuperLag> I'm attemping to add Oracle Java to update alternatives. Can anyone tell me if this would *not* work, or would be a bad idea: for j in jar jarsigner java javac javadoc javah javap jcmd jconsole jdb jexec jhat jinfo jmap jps jrunscript jsadebugd jstack jstat jstatd ; do update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/$j" "$j" "/opt/java/64/bin/$j" 1 ; done
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> withnale, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is the only additional command I have 3,8.0-19
[18:54] <hachre> seyfarth: if you hover over an icon it should show its name
[18:55] <hachre> seyfarth: if you have autohiding on you need to overcome a resistance now by moving the mouse further into the edge to make it show
[18:55] <seyfarth> hachre: yeah. still doesn't work. even if i lower the setting to 0 in ccsm
[18:55] <hachre> weird
[18:55] <seyfarth> hachre: been broken since 12.10
[18:55] <hachre> works for me
[18:55] <withnale> So all the reviews I've seen have said 3.8.8 kernel. That isn't enabled by default?
[18:55] <seyfarth> i think it's an nvidia card thing
[18:55] <hachre> seyfarth: you're probably the victim of some legacy setting somewhere
[18:55] <hachre> seyfarth: I got nvidia too
[18:55] <withnale> example: http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2013/04/25/ubuntu-13-04/
[18:56] <seyfarth> hachre: not sure. clean install. but it's annoying. the sidebar takes up so much space!
[18:56] <bekks> withnale: 3.8.0-xyz will contain 3.8.8 -- the 3.8.0 will always be there.
[18:56] <withnale> ah. ok
[18:57] <SuperLag> interesting
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes?action=show&redirect=RaringRingtail%2FTechnicalOverview#Linux_kernel_3.8.8
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> seyfarth, You can shrink the sidebar
[19:00] <OerHeks> wilee-nilee, sad to see there is no url for kubuntu 13.04 release notes on that page
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> never used it myself
[19:03] <DWSR> Does 12.04 support SLI?
[19:04] <cebor> i use 13.04 on my thinkpad, my screen doesn't dim down while idling on battery to save power? The checkbox is checked at settings...
[19:06] <CrownWheel> Hey, how do I set a static IP in Ubuntu?
[19:06] <CrownWheel> The wireless interface doesn't seem to be in /etc/network/interfaces...
[19:08] <ant_man> can i change my default session to say, fluxbox?  This is a just a fileserver that remote into, and occaisionally use as a desktop station.  ubuntu 12.04 64, standard desktop edition
[19:09] <Guest84237> How come when I rebooted to finish installing Ubuntu 13.04 from 12.04 I got the CLI instead of the graphics mode
[19:09] <Philo> So, I just installed Ubuntu and as soon as it loads into the GUI, I lose my display. Which I assume means my driver isn't working.
[19:09] <Guest84237> ?
[19:10] <Philo> Can anyone tell me why the generic driver wouldn't work with a GTX 260 and a 64 bit AMD processor?
[19:10] <Guest84237> Philo: did you get the command line?
[19:10] <Philo> Nope.
[19:10] <Philo> No command line.
[19:10] <Guest84237> Hm. I did and then I rebooted again and I got the graphics
[19:10] <Philo> I tried again and again, even reinstalled.
[19:10] <Philo> Same issue over and over.
[19:10] <Philo> This is an old card, I figured they'd have it figured out by now.
[19:11] <at_oussama> hello all
[19:11] <Timvde> Philo: Might be a stupid suggestion, but when I had such a problem, it turned out my display brightness just suddenly jumped to zero
[19:11] <Philo> Hello
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest84237, Can you login ands startx
[19:11] <CrownWheel> Hey, I'm running v11.10.  How do I set a static IP on the wireless interface?
[19:11] <Philo> Nope.
[19:12] <Philo> Well, it's working fine in Windows 7, 8, and Fuduntu(?)
[19:12] <Philo> Actually, my monitor is saying no input detected.
[19:12] <Philo> So, it's a driver related issue.
[19:12] <Timvde> Philo: Oh, nvm then.
[19:12] <Philo> You wouldn't think they'd still be having problems with cards that old.
[19:13] <Philo> That was a 2008-2009 release.
[19:13] <Philo> A good four to five years ago.
[19:13] <ant_man> Philo, i'm no expert, but try running updates threw CLI, or maybe even remove relative graphics dravers
[19:13] <at_oussama> i have a problem running all versions of ubuntu using Unity, since i don't think my GPU support 3D acceleration without a proprietary driver, but when i try to run 13.04 liveCD i have nothing at all, only the wallaper and nothing else, please help ?
[19:13] <Philo> I can't get to a CLI.
[19:14] <Philo> I'm given no option for one.
[19:14] <away> Philo, what about a tty?
[19:14] <away> ctrl+alt+f1
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Philo  trl-alt f1
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> c
[19:14] <Philo> And when I installed the operating system, I clicked yes for it to update fully.
[19:15] <bekks> 15
[19:15] <Philo> You can hear the sound it makes when the driver crashes.
[19:15] <un2him> dash doesn't show files and folders, even ones in the home folder like music, documents, etc.  Why?  I am on 13.04
[19:15] <Philo> So, I know it's crashing.
[19:15] <cristina> hello with unetbootin can i make a win boot flash?
[19:16] <Philo> I've heard there were issues for x64 and Nvidia drivers.
[19:16] <Philo> So, I guess they just never fixed it.
[19:16] <Philo> But then this was supposed to be a generic driver.
[19:16] <Philo> So, I guess that can't be it either.
[19:16] <bekks> Philo: I havent had those issues for a decade now.
[19:16] <Philo> It's strange that not even a generic driver can provide me with a basic display.
[19:17] <Philo> bekks: Right. I figured by 2013 these sort of issues would have been resolved.
[19:17] <Philo> I remember having similar issues years ago.
[19:17] <meerkat> I need help fixing my DNS. I can't access any websites.
[19:17] <Philo> Butu even then, the generic drivers worked.
[19:17] <bekks> Philo: Frankly, I havent had those issues since 2003.
[19:17] <Philo> Well, they haven't entirely fixed the problem.
[19:17] <Philo> Because it still exists for some configuruations.
[19:18] <un2him> dash doesn't show files and folders, even ones in the home folder like music, documents, etc.  Why?  I am on 13.04
[19:18] <Philo> And that's pretty sad.
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> un2him, you ticking on the icons at the bottom
[19:18] <bekks> Philo: There is no bug free software out there.
[19:18] <un2him> wilee-nilee, yes, even when i click the icons at the bottom...nothing found!
[19:19] <CrownWheel> Anyone know how to set a static IP on a wireless interface in Ubuntu?
[19:19] <Philo> I don't think I've ever experienced that sort of problem with Windows, and I'm talking about as far back as Windows 3.1
[19:19] <CrownWheel> The automagical wireless client overrides the static IP I set with ifconfig...
[19:19] <Philo> I can't even get into an environment to fix it. If I have to go back to a CLI in 2013 to resolve issues, what does that tell you?
[19:19] <CrownWheel> When it (predicably) can't get a DHCPed address, it gives up.
[19:19] <Philo> It tells me that this isn't really a modern and fully-developed operating system.
[19:20] <Philo> I wanted to switch from Windows 8, because I hate their GUI, but at least this terrible GUI functions as intended.
[19:20] <bekks> Philo: It tells me that you have to investigate your logs top get the actual issue instead just blaming the driver.
[19:20] <seyfarth> Just installed 13.04. Changing my display setting gives me a "Could not apply the sotred config for monitors" dialog. It seems xorg.conf is missing?
[19:20] <Ben64> Philo: this channel isn't really for ranting
[19:20] <seyfarth> So I have to disable my laptop screen every boot :(
[19:21] <Philo> Well, I have to go into logs and configuration files in a CLI to get a fresh install working?
[19:21] <Philo> Good Lord.
[19:21] <Philo> Ben64: Is it for assistance?
[19:21] <Ben64> Philo: yes
[19:21] <jamesaepp> Hello. I am interested in a backup solution (alternative to Deja Dup, as I do not like its characteristics) My requirements are that this program be able to do R-SYNC or differential backup, backup to an FTP location, and store all files as-is, (no encryption like Deja Dup) and previous files are NOT required. Just the latest versions. For Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. Suggestions?
[19:22] <DWSR> Does 12.04 support SLI?
[19:22] <Philo> Okay, what would be the problem for a generic driver crashing on a fresh install? I have a x64 AMD processor and a GTX 260.
[19:22] <bekks> DWSR: Thats an issue of the nvidia driver used, not of Ubuntu itself.
[19:22] <zinc55> Isn't SLI a driver thing?
[19:22] <bekks> Philo: There are zillions of possible reasons.
[19:22] <Philo> For example?
[19:22] <bekks> Philo: You have to investigate the logs.
[19:23] <Philo> Okay, if I'm not getting anything displaying,  how do I get to a CLI?
[19:23] <Ben64> !text
[19:23] <Multbrelch> Dear all!    My touchpad+ buttons worked very well, suddenly its over, they don't work anymore. - Does anybody has an idea where I can start?
[19:23] <Philo> Okay, let's say I'm in a CLI, what then?
[19:23] <Multbrelch> I have 12.04 64 Bit
[19:24] <bekks> Philo: Do you get a terminal when pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[19:24] <Philo> No.
[19:24] <bekks> Philo: Did you already try to reboot using the nomodeset option?
[19:24] <Ben64> Philo: check logs in /var/log
[19:24] <tgm4883> Philo, if you don't get a terminal when you do that, I think you have far worse problems than a driver crashing X
[19:24] <Ben64> oh yeah, nomodeset might fix it right away
[19:24] <Philo> And what am I investigating in the logs?
[19:25] <tgm4883> It
[19:25] <Philo> What am I looking for?
[19:25] <tgm4883> It's my experience that people that don't know what to generically look for in logs, shouldn't be looking at logs
[19:25] <charlton> does anyone in here know about tinyproxy?
[19:25] <Ben64> you can toss them on pastebin or something, and show it here
[19:25] <clintonc> tgm4883: You're not being helpful.
[19:25] <Philo> Well, that explains everything, tgm4883.
[19:25] <Philo> Which would then tell me that the operating system is not user-friendly.
[19:26] <kronos003> I'm currently running Fedora 18 and considering jumping ship to ubuntu or mint or something else if it's better - which should I go with?
[19:26] <charlton> tgm4883: Someone needs to get off their high horse.
[19:26] <clintonc> Philo: Installing Windows fresh is not always a walk in the park, either :)
[19:26] <tgm4883> what high horse?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> kronos003, What ever one you like. ;)
[19:26] <Ben64> kronos003: we don't support mint here, just so you know
[19:26] <Philo> It was pretty automated, clintonc.
[19:27] <Seveas> kronos003: you're asking in #ubuntu - so you expect any other answer than "Ubuntu of course!"
[19:27] <Ben64> Philo: so was installing ubuntu for me
[19:27] <kronos003> Ben64: why would I want mint over ubuntu or vice versa?
[19:27] <Ben64> Philo: sometimes there are issues
[19:27] <Seveas> !anyone | charlton
[19:27] <Tumlee> kronos003: That depends entirely on why you jumped ship from Fedora 18
[19:27] <charlton> The mate desktop, maybe?
[19:27] <Philo> Did you have to go into a CLI, investigate logs, and then.. Lord knows what.
[19:27] <Multbrelch> Bump ... anybody can help me plz? How can I see if a touchpad is available? Via lsusb?
[19:27] <Ben64> Philo: at least ubuntu has that option. on windows you're just stuck
[19:27] <tgm4883> clintonc, charlton if someone is told to go look at the logs, and they don't know what they are looking for. Simply telling them where the logs are is NOT helpful
[19:28] <clintonc> I said it's not *always* a walk in the park, and neither is installing whatever flavor of Linux.  (I installed Linux last night, and it was easy-peasy)
[19:28] <Philo> Say I'm in the logs, what's the next step?
[19:28] <kronos003> Tumlee: My big gripe is that many things I want to install are just ready to go on ubuntu, where on fedora I have to compile and pray - and often that is not enough
[19:28] <bekks> Philo: Read them, check them for errors.
[19:28] <zykotick9> Multbrelch: it's not with lsusb, but try "egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices"
[19:28] <Philo> clintonc: Let's not universalize your experience.
[19:28] <tgm4883> Philo, you'll want to look for "error" or "fail" and see what that line says
[19:28] <clintonc> tgm4883: Looking at the logs can certainly help.  Which error comes about can help determine the next course of action.
[19:28] <Ben64> Philo: i would say just to show the logs here, but you could look for lines with "error" in the xorg log
[19:28] <charlton> tgm4483, true, but people must look at logs to know how they work/contain.
[19:29] <clintonc> Philo: I'm not suggesting we universalize my experience, but let us also not universalize yours.
[19:29] <Tumlee> kronos003: Ubuntu is pretty much set for a lot of things. There's plenty of support and it's very rare that I've had to compile a program unless it was some development version, or a not-so-popular app
[19:29] <Multbrelch> zykotick9, thx for your kind help. Here the result: N: Name="ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"
[19:29] <Philo> Now is the error itself going to tell me how to correct it?
[19:29] <kronos003> I've heard that mint is basically ubuntu, but with Mate (gnome2) and I think some other stuff as well
[19:29] <bekks> Philo: Depends on the error.
[19:29] <Multbrelch> so there is a touchpad ... well it worked before, so should be
[19:29] <charlton> Thats pretty much linux mint
[19:29] <tgm4883> clintonc, charlton that is absolutly true, but there are some people that don't even know ot look for the word "error"
[19:29] <clintonc> Now, let's stop arguing so you can get your problem fixd :3
[19:29] <Philo> So, I would need to find the error, then reboot to Windows, and look up how to correct it.
[19:29] <Philo> Is this correct?
[19:29] <clintonc> tgm4883: This is not Philo's first time running Linux.
[19:29] <Ben64> Philo: so am i to understand that you have not installed the nvidia drivers?
[19:29] <Tumlee> Also, know that there are different DEs you can get for Ubuntu if you really want to avoid Unity.
[19:30] <Tumlee> I'm running Ubuntu GNOME right now
[19:30] <Philo> Which I assume would mean that I'd need to edit a configuration file or install a new driver.
[19:30] <bekks> Philo: You need to find the error and after that, we can help you to proceed.
[19:30] <charlton> tgm4883, well then we need to tell them how so they can learn
[19:30] <tgm4883> clintonc, whether it is or not, it's pretty apparent to me that he doesn't know how to look though logs
[19:30] <Philo> Ben64: Hell, Ubuntu never gave me the opportunity.
[19:30] <Ben64> tgm4883: just stop if you're not going to help
[19:30] <kronos003> Right now I'm using XFCE and  I also do a lot of windows type stuff in qemu-kvm and manage that with lib virt
[19:30] <Ben64> Philo: ok, so the first thing i would suggest to you is nomodeset
[19:30] <Ben64> !nomodeset | Philo
[19:30] <tgm4883> charlton, exactly, which is not what was happening at all. Everyone was just saying "look at the logs in /var/log/" not even saying which file to look in
[19:30] <kronos003> is there anything on fedora I wont have on ubuntu?
[19:30] <clintonc> Philo: I've had experiences where the generic drivers have crashed, and the only resolution that I could find was to install the NVidia drivers.
[19:30] <tgm4883> Ben64, I'm helping far more that you can even realize
[19:31] <Tumlee> kronos003: There is a xubuntu, which from what I understand is pretty up to date on XFCE
[19:31] <ZettaZete_> Does anybody have any experience with Radeon HD 7690M? When I install the fglrx drivers, when I restart my computer. Unity stops working, or my computer is forced into low-graphics mode.
[19:31] <Tatuus> what's with this "jailbird" -guy... he quit, but before that sent rude pm's, n -words and all, cheez
[19:31] <Tumlee> I've never tried it before though.
[19:31] <meerkat> I need help fixing my DNS. I can't reach any websites.
[19:31] <Ben64> tgm4883: no, the word to describe your actions is "arguing"
[19:31] <charlton> tgm4883, well then, why didnt you, seeing that others were not helping enough, step in?
[19:31] <Philo> Okay, I will try the nomodeset later.
[19:31] <tgm4883> charlton, I did
[19:31] <Philo> Thank you for your time.
[19:31] <kronos003> looks like I'm running XFCE 4.10
[19:31] <charlton> t4883, did that fix the problem?
[19:32] <prjkt> hi, I'm confused . I'm following a vpn tutorial and it says to run "service iptables restart" but it says "iptables: unrecognized service."  However doing apt-get install iptables says it's already instlaled.  so where am I going wrong?
[19:32] <away> meerkat, but IPs work?
[19:32] <Tumlee> Yup. If you like XFCE, then I'd recommend xubuntu if you're planning to choose ubuntu
[19:32] <meerkat> away, yes
[19:32] <Ben64> prjkt: iptables isn't a "service"
[19:32] <prjkt> I'm following this verbatim: http://holgr.com/blog/2009/06/setting-up-openvpn-on-amazons-ec2/
[19:32] <tgm4883> charlton, which problem. the part where he didn't know what to look for? Or the part where most here don't know how to help for a problem that is more than skin deep?
[19:33] <away> meerkat, back up /etc/resolv.conf and then edit it
[19:33] <prjkt> it says "Reload the firewall and make it start on boot by entering:   service iptables restart
[19:33] <Ben64> prjkt: thats for fedora
[19:33] <kronos003> In your experience how helpful is the channel when trying to fix issues on your machine? I've found the fedora channel to lately be less tahn helpful - seems like I have a knack for asking questions noone can answer
[19:33] <prjkt> Ben64, okay so how can I adjust for ubuntu please
[19:33] <Ben64> prjkt: dunno
[19:33] <zykotick9> meerkat: fyi, changing resolv.conf isn't gonna remain after a restart... very temporary solution
[19:33] <Multbrelch> where is the log file that may tell me that there is an issue with the touchpad?
[19:33] <prjkt> there is also no directory /etc/sysconfig which is mentioned
[19:34] <prjkt> Ben64, I'm confused, why would iptables be so different under fedora and ubuntu?
[19:34] <prjkt> i.e. a service or not-a-service
[19:34] <charlton> tgm4883, the looking for the correct log part. Can we quit arguing now? if this channel rustles your jimmies _THAT_ much, you should leave. many people recieve help here, and many people learn to give help.
[19:34] <Ben64> prjkt: plus, that guide is almost 4 years old, you might want to find something more recent
[19:34] <CrownWheel> Multbrelch, try: xinput list
[19:34] <away> prjkt, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:34] <meerkat> away, zykotick9 my resolv.conf file is pretty much empty. Just one commented line in there.
[19:34] <zykotick9> Multbrelch: check Xorg's log /var/log/Xorg.0.log (especially for any EE lines)
[19:34] <kronos003> fedora is trying to make the move to firewalld - from what i gather its a different beast than the iptables we are used to
[19:35] <Multbrelch> CrownWheel, zykotick9 ... thx, mom
[19:35] <CrownWheel> Multbrelch, if I understand correctly, that'll show you what input devices X is actually aware of.  Which may or may NOT include the touchpad...
[19:35] <tgm4883> charlton, personally, I think this channel is slightly better than the scripted you help when calling consumer level support
[19:35] <away> you could use google's nameservers
[19:35] <Ben64> tgm4883: then leave?
[19:35] <away> add a line "nameserver 8.8.4.4"
[19:35] <zykotick9> meerkat: i'd guess that would be normal in ubuntu, since resolv.conf is deprecated.  i have no idea what your issue is - just wanted to give you details on the advice away was giving you.  best of luck.
[19:35] <tgm4883> charlton, I'm not entirely sure why you insist that me giving pointers to people in an attempt to help them give better support is a problem
[19:35] <Multbrelch> CrownWheel, k ... well the touchpad doesn't seem to be listed
[19:35] <tgm4883> Ben64, you too^
[19:36] <charlton> I have a question about proxy servers, and i am debating whether to use squid or tinyproxy. any suggestions?
[19:36] <x2> Hello, everyone. I've got an ASUS laptop with quite a strange touchpad - both its left and and right buttons are a part of touchpad. So, when I hold a finger on my left touchpad button and try to move the mouse pointer, it doesn't move, it's trying to scroll. I have tried setting synclient AreaBottomEdge=1500, but that still blocks mouse pointer when I hold my finger on touchpad button. Anybody had such
[19:36] <x2> problems? It's probably not a software problem, because I can move mouse pointer when holding button down. I've googled this problem but met nothing except people complaining the same problem. Maybe one of you had such problems?
[19:36] <charlton> tgm4883, never said it was.
[19:36] <tgm4883> charlton, that's funny, since I've been attacked since the moment I said anything in this channel
[19:37] <beboj> is therer any little how-to about adding network printer via cli?
[19:37] <meerkat> away, I added google's DNS there. I can now connect to sites. Thank you.
[19:37] <CrownWheel> Multbrelch, well the list is a bit cryptic.  I completely missed my "ETPS/2 Elantech" the first time I looked at mine.  And secondly...that tells us that the touchpad is failing at a lower level than X.
[19:38] <Multbrelch> zykotick9 and CrownWheel , look here: http://www.pasteall.org/41792
[19:38] <charlton> tgm4883, the channel is, and your continued complaining is getting on my nerves. i wasnt here when you first got on the channel, and if you stop arguing and focus on giving help, that would benefit everyone.
[19:38] <Multbrelch> more  /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[19:38]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[19:38] <CrownWheel> speaking of help, does anyone know how to connect to a wireless network with a static IP address?
[19:39] <charlton> crownwheel, is your router configured to use one?
[19:39] <CrownWheel> Ubuntu's (sorry, Xubuntu's) built-in wireless client overrides my ifconfig-specified IP address and tries to use DHCP.
[19:39] <CrownWheel> charlton, yes.
[19:39]  * wilee-nilee ignores the irritants
[19:39] <Multbrelch> CrownWheel, I'm sorry "xinput list" outputs ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad <= so the touchpad is there
[19:39] <CrownWheel> its settings aren't in /etc/network/interfaces.
[19:39] <tgm4883> CrownWheel, doesn't xubuntu use network manager?
[19:40] <zykotick9> Multbrelch: i missed the actual problem you are having (but i has a suspition that it was working and either updates or 'you updating to a new ubuntu' caused this?)
[19:40] <planet1> Evening
[19:40] <Multbrelch> so the touchpad worked and then something happend (I don't know anymore, update may be), and now it doesn't work anymore
[19:40] <kronos003> does ubuntu have libvirt and kvm?
[19:40] <Multbrelch> OS: 12.04, 64 Bit
[19:41] <x2> Well, maybe anyone had problem that mouse doesn't move when there are two fingers on touchpad?
[19:41] <Multbrelch> zykotick9, ^
[19:41] <x2> I don't want any two-finger gestures, I want touchpad to interpret everything as one finger.
[19:42] <charlton> x2, why not just use one finger then?
[19:42] <Multbrelch> zykotick9, CrownWheel thx for help, need to go, cheers
[19:42] <x2> charlton: I usually aim with one finger and keep another on button ready to click.
[19:42] <CrownWheel> tgm4883, I don't know what the utility is called.  it's "panel" plugin doesn't give its name.  Does Ubuntu use a different utility?
[19:42] <bluebomber> In Files in 13.04, typing produces different behavior than in 12.10; it now seems to execute a recursive search. Is there a way to revert the behavior so that it tries to match what I type as a prefix to a file/directory in the current directory?
[19:42] <charlton> x2, i see.
[19:43] <planet1> What's the easiest way to upgrade from 12.10 Ubuntu to 13.04 Ubuntu STUDIO ?
[19:43] <prjkt> okay thanks for the help guys
[19:43] <x2> charlton: My touchpad buttons are also sensible, so when I click, my mouse moves and I have to aim once again.
[19:43] <tgm4883> CrownWheel, no, Ubuntu uses network-manager as well. So if you want to use a static IP with wireless, you need to set the static IP in network manager, not ifconfig
[19:43] <prjkt> i found http://docs.openvpn.net/how-to-tutorialsguides/virtual-platforms/amazon-ec2-appliance-ami-quick-start-guide/ right on the openvpn site i will follow that instead
[19:43] <x2> That's why that feature kills me.
[19:43] <zykotick9> Multbrelch: do you currently have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?  do you use nvidia or ati which require one?  can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[19:43] <Morph4me> Crownwheel : from the taskbar network manager "edit connection " then "add" then from the drop down menu and look for "wifi" .click create ....then the ipv4 or 6 and method to manual at least that is how it is in ubuntu 13.04
[19:43] <charlton> planet1, do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[19:44] <planet1> charlton: ok thanks thats the web-installation method, how about upgrading from a DVD ? Is a live upgrade still supported / possible ?
[19:45] <zykotick9> planet1: fyi, charlton is wrong, dist-upgrade does NOT upgrade to new releases!!!
[19:45] <tgm4883> charlton, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' won't upgrade him to 13.04
[19:45] <charlton> planet1, im not sure, as i dont use ubuntu studio. i would recommend the web method, as that is easiest and you keep all of your stuff
[19:45] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade
[19:45] <Nothing_Much> isn't it 'do-release-upgrade'?
[19:46] <mzaza> Is the Ubuntu 13.04 supposed to run faster than Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[19:46] <charlton> planet1, tgm4883 then do sudo do-dist-upgrade -d
[19:46] <nottapro> Is it possible to run ubuntu as my main OS without a hard drive? I have some USB thumbdrives laying about to save data on
[19:46] <charlton> mzaza, yes, because of Unity 7
[19:46] <CrownWheel> tgm4883, Morph4me, thanks.
[19:46] <zykotick9> planet1: fyi charlton is probably wrong again.  -d means development release.
[19:46] <nottapro> My hard drive recently signed off permanently and I can't afford a new one so I'm looking into alternative methods of having a useable desktop
[19:47] <Morph4me> yw
[19:47] <matias2> Hi, after upgrade to 13.04, my unity menu doesn't show up anymore. I already tried `unity reset-icons` and `dconf reset -f /org/compiz`, other users work (guest, new user)
[19:47] <tgm4883> charlton, it's 'do-release-upgrade', and you don't need the '-d' option unless you want to upgrade to the development version
[19:47] <CrownWheel> nottapro, yes - but...
[19:47] <nottapro> I am running from a Live CD of ubunut right now
[19:47] <charlton> zycotick9, tmc4883, planet1 Sorry, i did mine when it was still in development *smacks face*
[19:47] <bagelong> After upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 I can no longer connect to wifi
[19:47] <zykotick9> tgm4883: thanks for backing me up both times ;)
[19:47] <mzaza> charlton: When would I expect updates to fix slow nautilus and slow startup, because I had Ubuntu 13.04 for 3 days now and it's buggy and no updates go released yet.
[19:48] <CrownWheel> Here's experience I had running Xubuntu from Live flash drives with persistence.
[19:48] <zykotick9> !tab > charlton
[19:48] <tgm4883> zykotick9, yw
[19:48] <charlton> mzaza, im not sure. what are your hardware specs?
[19:48] <CrownWheel> Due to the way the persistence file's filesystem is created (which I don't fully understand), it doesn't get fsck-ed ... ever.
[19:48] <nottapro> CrownWheel: If I had a hard drive, I'd definitely just use that. Unfortunately, given my current circumstances... It's impossible
[19:48] <planet1> So can I go directly from 12.10 to 13.04 STUDIO or do I have to do 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.04 STUDIO ?
[19:48] <CrownWheel> So, after about a dozen boot cycles, it self-destructs in a flurry of bad-inode messages.
[19:49] <tgm4883> mzaza, Unity is suppose to be faster, due to not needing as many resources. That doesn't have anything to do with startup time, and probably not nautilus either
[19:49] <iceroot> planet1: 12.04 - 12.10 - 13.04
[19:49] <CrownWheel> You can get around this if you boot another Linux system (eg. from another Flash drive) and manually fsck the "casper" file.
[19:49] <CrownWheel> Also, you can't upgrade the Kernel in a Live flash install.
[19:49] <nottapro> CrownWheel: sounds a bit advanced for my current level of knowledge and experience with linux in general
[19:49] <CrownWheel> That doesn't seem to be documented anywhere.  And the updater is unaware of it, so it'll waste a HUGE amount of time trying and failing.
[19:49] <matias2> Hi, after upgrade to 13.04, my unity menu doesn't show up anymore. I already tried `unity reset-icons` and `dconf reset -f /org/compiz`, other users work (guest, new user)
[19:49] <mzaza> charlton: Sony Vaio S, i5 (2.5 GHz upt to 3.0) processor 3rd generation with 3 MB cache. 4GB RAM, 5400rpm harddisk
[19:50] <planet1> iceroot: the starting point would be 12.04 and the aim would be STUDIO (13.04)
[19:50] <zykotick9> planet1: it ubuntu-studio is some metapackage (i don't know what it's really called, or if it even exists), then it really doesn't matter when you install it.  i'd suggest after you upgrade to the new release though (expect issues with that) - best of luck!
[19:50] <CrownWheel> nottapro, yeah...for me too.  I just figured you should know what you're getting into.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> CrownWheel, You can make a casper-rw partition as big as you need and have space for.
[19:50] <tgm4883> planet1, do you have a separate /home partition?
[19:50] <CrownWheel> wilee-nilee, it's not a matter of running out of space.  It simply didn't survive very long.
[19:50] <iceroot> planet1: you have to do through every release. only from an lts to an lts is supported, so 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 everything between needs to hit every releae for upgrading
[19:50] <nottapro> CrownWheel: I just need a system that I can use. The computer is my only means of communication with relatives. So I'm kind of desperate here
[19:51] <charlton> mzaza, Hmmm, im not sure. i have a crap MSI L1350 with 1GB RAM and an intel atom and it boots in less than 10 seconds.
[19:51] <mzaza> tgm4883: Since I upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 and I am experincing very slow nautilus when it starts it takes up to 6 seconds to respond to my click while opening folder and it takes about 3 seconds after I click the x button to close the nautilus to get closed.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> CrownWheel, I have only seen it fill up, its not cleanable.
[19:51] <zykotick9> iceroot: planet1 is only upgrading 1 release - they just think the ubuntu-studio is another...
[19:51] <mzaza> charlton: And nautilus is very slow, I could upload a video on youtube to show you how long it takes to respond to my clicks
[19:52] <bagelong> Anyone know of a solution to the broadcom wireless issues following upgrade to 13.04?
[19:52] <CrownWheel> wilee-nilee, and I've seen the persistence file in several Live Flash installs self destruct with plenty of free space remaining.  Like I say, fsck-ing from another machine on a regular basis keeps them going.
[19:52] <CrownWheel> nottapro, if you have 2 Flash drives, use one for file storage and boot off the other.
[19:52] <charlton> mzaza, i honestly dont know what to say. what is your resource usage during normal use?
[19:52] <nottapro> CrownWheel: How often must I do that?
[19:52] <planet1> in 12.10 this Boot-Upgrade (REALLY HATE THAT) was indroduced as a replacement for the ALTERNATE distribution
[19:52] <nottapro> CrownWheel: the only problem with booting off a usb is I don't think my motherboard supports it, or atleast I'm not aware of it
[19:52] <CrownWheel> The Live distros work great.  Just not as stand-alone long term solutions.  Or boot from a CD for that matter, where it won't be an issue at all.
[19:52] <planet1> what has 13.04 to offer in this regard ?
[19:53] <mzaza> charlton: I use vim, g++, chromium and sometimes monodevelop. I don't do much. Any the nautlius lag even happens if I have anything closed.
[19:53] <zykotick9> CrownWheel: i've had nothing but "issues" when i tried using persistance with USB drives.  now, i don't bother, and just install onto the usb drive - no good if you want to install from it though :(
[19:54] <bagelong> Wifi, anyone? anyone? anyone?
[19:54] <charlton> mzaza, Im not sure what it is. is it like this if you boot from a livecd, for example? im sure its not your hardware, but its worht a look
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> !wifi
[19:55] <nottapro> How do I check my ram usage in ubuntu?
[19:55] <charlton> nottapro, try top
[19:55] <mzaza> charlton: Haven't tried live cd since I upgraded from 12.10. But in 12.10 it worked just fine.
[19:55] <nottapro> haha, I guess the right question is how do I open a terminal in ubunut
[19:55] <matias2> nottapro, Either with free (-m), or with system monitor
[19:55] <charlton> mzaza, im not sure what to tell you, friend, but i wish you the best of luck.
[19:56] <charlton> nottapro, try ctrl+alt+t
[19:56] <nottapro> charlton: thank you!
[19:56] <bagelong> @ubottu, there is a new bug with the upgrade to 13.04, for which I have not found a solution to yet
[19:56] <charlton> nottapro, or do what matias2 says
[19:56] <zykotick9> nottapro: from cli, using "free" is the base option, then top (i'd strongly recommend htop) are the curses methods of choice.  but read and understand http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ before you freak out about high mem usage ;)  good luck.
[19:56] <charlton> nottapro, if you want a GUI, that is
[19:56] <spirit_> hi
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> nottapro  or htop
[19:57] <Quest> can I install applications on windows clients with a linux server, just in a way that active directory and domain control system does by the aid of a windows server? if not (most probably) are there any work arounds?
[19:57] <mzaza> charlton: thanks
[19:57] <newbe> hey guys i need help  ubunut is not iinstalling on my computer
[19:57] <charlton> Quest, do you mean setting up a network share with the programs on it?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> newbe  what happens when you try?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> !details > newbe
[19:58] <charlton> newbe, "ubunut"
[19:58] <bagelong> @newbe, what OS is on the machine
[19:58] <newbe> it act like its going to istall
[19:58] <newbe> nothing blank drive
[19:58] <Quest> charlton,  yes, and also installing programs
[19:58] <Quest> charlton,  yes, and also installing programs on each client
[19:58] <bagelong> Can you run from a live CD
[19:58] <newbe> yes
[19:58] <newbe> works fine
[19:58] <charlton> Quest, do you want to do that on the client or remotely?
[19:59] <Quest> charlton,  correct
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> newbe  you see a binking cursor, top left?
[19:59] <newbe> in the middle of the install it frezzes
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> blinking*
[19:59] <mob666> :)
[19:59] <newbe> i tryed to install 12.04
[19:59] <newbe> will not compleat
[19:59] <nottapro> CrownWheel: What did you say I needed to do in order to keep the flash drives from self destructing?
[20:00] <newbe> tryed 11.04  goes to a pink screen and spining wheel
[20:00] <charlton> Quest, do sudo apt-get install samba and edit the configuration file to suit your needs
[20:00] <zykotick9> nottapro: i "believe" CrownWheel suggested fsck the persistant partition from another box.
[20:01] <charlton> Quest, also, in the config file, change workgroup = WORKGROUP to the name of the workgroup the clients computers are in
[20:01] <newbe> any ideas
[20:01] <nottapro> Zykotick9: okay. That may be a problem. I don't have any other computer but this one
[20:01] <newbe> i
[20:01] <cristina> hello ...wanna make a boot`able usb with xp ..
[20:01] <Psycholiquid71> I am having an issue trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are happening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, but mount -a works, and two I am getting an error on reboot "mountall: disconnected from Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[20:01] <cristina> i use lubunto ..
[20:01] <cristina> how do i do it?
[20:01] <newbe> trying  it on a compact persario
[20:01] <charlton> christina, use the Universal USB installer by pendrivelinux
[20:01] <newbe> amd chip xp3200
[20:01] <CrownWheel> zykotick9, nottapro, yeah.  Like I say, if you have TWO flash drives, you can boot one then the other, and fsck each other.  But ... what a pain.
[20:01] <zykotick9> !tab | nottapro you don't have to type Z-y-k-o-t-i-c-k-9 to highlight me ;)
[20:01] <charlton> cristina, use the Universal USB installer by pendrivelinux
[20:01] <newbe> 1gb ram and 160gb drive
[20:02] <Quest> charlton,  samba will only give me file sharing. not the ability to install apps remotely on clients
[20:02] <nottapro> Zyko: I'm using the freenode webclient
[20:02] <CrownWheel> apparently the Live install on USB was simply not designed for long term use.  Anyway, it certainly wasn't tested for long-term survivability...
[20:02] <nottapro> I dont know how it works with highlights
[20:02] <zykotick9> nottapro: sorry.  that sucks ;)
[20:03] <CrownWheel> So, I'm gonna' re-iterate my recommendation: boot from CD, plug in a regular, non-bootable USB drive for storage.
[20:03] <charlton> Quest, im afraid im not sure how to do that with linux, but you could always create a network share to make it easy for the clients do do it, perhaps.
[20:03] <nottapro> zykotick9: indeed!
[20:03] <nottapro> ubuntu is really nice. I haven't used it in a very, very long time. I had a debian install on my laptop before it nuked itself
[20:03] <charlton> Quest, if this was an all-ubuntu system, you could easily do it with Landscapr
[20:03] <cristina> charlton,
[20:04] <cristina> don`t find it
[20:04] <newbe> any ideas why its not installing right
[20:04] <charlton> cristina, yes?
[20:04] <nottapro> I am surprised my hardware was detected right off the bat
[20:04] <cristina> pm plz
[20:04] <newbe> HELLO
[20:04] <charlton> cristina, dont find what?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> newbe  maybe the iso is corrupt - where did you get it? do the md5 check
[20:04] <Quest> charlton,  server is ubuntu. clients are windows xp/7
[20:04] <charlton> newbe, hello.
[20:05] <cristina> the usb ...
[20:05] <newbe> it is from ubuntu
[20:05] <cristina> i was trying with unetbootin ...but don`t work
[20:05] <newbe> and old repostoryes  site
[20:06] <charlton> Quest, Im not sure. there is probably some sort of 3rd-party software for that, although im not a systems administrator and haven't much experience with that sort of thing.
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> hellopat, does anyone run Gnome 3.6 in 12.04? I want to upgrade Gnome Shell, but I' rather stay with the LTS release. However, everything I can find related to Gnome 3.6 is about Quantal or Raring
[20:06] <Psycholiquid71> anyone know about nfs shares?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> newbe  old repositories? simply get it here http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[20:06] <Quest> can I install applications on windows clients with a linux server, just in a way that active directory and domain control system does by the aid of a windows server? if not (most probably) are there any work arounds?
[20:06] <charlton> cristina, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:07] <zykotick9> newbe: is this a 64bit iso on a 32bit system perhaps?  md5ing the iso you used is a good idea, but if you used torrent should be fine.  what did you use to install (cd/usb)?  then, how did you create that install media?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Quest  there's also #ubuntu-server, try and ask there
[20:07] <Psycholiquid71> Quest you could use FOG to do it
[20:07] <elo19> how to activate laptop touchpad?
[20:07] <Quest> Psycholiquid71,  really?
[20:07] <charlton> Psycholiquid71, Quest, thank you.
[20:08] <elo19> cant use laptop without mouse...
[20:08] <cristina> yes charlton but this is for linux only
[20:08] <zykotick9> Psycholiquid71: sorry, what is FOG short for?
[20:08] <Psycholiquid71> Quest yes, it has snapins you can make without problems and upload them to FOG server and have it push down
[20:08] <cristina> i am on lubunto now
[20:08] <cristina> and i want a usb boot`able xp
[20:08] <cristina> that is for linux only
[20:08] <b14d3> Hi all, trying to reinstall Ubuntu after some superblock errors, and can't seem to get past the "Loading Operating System" screen even with a fresh install. I can boot from a livecd USB just fine. Kind of lost here.
[20:08] <Psycholiquid71> zykotic9 not sure but it is a free ghosting system
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> FOG : Fear and a bunh of other things
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> bunch
[20:09] <charlton> cristina, actually, its for everything linux. Ubuntu is based on linux
[20:09] <elo19> dont find options for touchpad.... maybe need to install something?
[20:09] <charlton> cristina, also, there is a setting in there for ubuntu. just try it out. seriously.
[20:10] <mzaza> charlton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUd0Hy5Acb8
[20:10] <Psycholiquid71> http://fogproject.org
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> b14d3, Have you checked the disc for errors?
[20:10] <mzaza> That's a youtube video showing the lag
[20:10] <Psycholiquid71> I am having an issue trying to mount an nsf share through fstab and two things are happening, one it wont auto mount I assume it is because the network isnt quiet up yet, but mount -a works, and two I am getting an error on reboot "mountall: disconnected from Plymouth any ideas guys and gals, using 12.04.2 server, terminal only
[20:10] <charlton> cristina, and if you are already using ubuntu, try Startup Disk Creator
[20:10] <b14d3> wilee-nilee, I have, and while it does say that I have some bad sectors, everything else comes back just fine.
[20:10] <Quest> Psycholiquid71,  i wont install an app on all windows clients.
[20:10] <zykotick9> Psycholiquid71: are you using a web client too?  if so disregard, but typing zykotic9 (which isn't correct BTW) is such a pain!  if you have a real client use TAB to autocomplete nicks ;)
[20:11] <cristina> yes i already use lubuntu
[20:11] <Psycholiquid71> yeah I am on a web client atm
[20:11] <mzaza> cristina: Download winusb
[20:11] <cristina> and i wanna make a usb boot with xp
[20:11] <cristina> windows xp
[20:11] <Psycholiquid71> you can choose which apps to install on which clients with FOG
[20:12] <mzaza> cristina: http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html
[20:12] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, have you thoroughly gone through the fstab manual? don't get mad, I just have had a lot of experiences fumbling around for hours with fstab
[20:12] <CrownWheel> cristina, I tried this not long ago with ISOtoUSB and an image I made of an old XP CD.  That didn't work for me...so I'm listening in on this...
[20:12] <Rahail> hi every one how are you question.. we made ISO with teamviwer using unbtu desktop 12. lts however for some reason after ISO teamviwer using same ID and its creating problem
[20:12] <Rahail> any idea how can I reset Teamviwer ID on ubnutu
[20:12] <elo19> wilee-nilee: where are options (enable/disable) touchpad?
[20:12] <bennypr0fane> ...until realizing I was just not using the right mount options
[20:12] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane I did, took me a while to get a grasp on it but once I got it, thats when I hit this problem
[20:12] <thvle> Hello, I need help. I want disable journaling in my / partition, but I need umount /, so I want to do from the live CD. Somebody tell me how I do it? Thank you.
[20:13] <charlton> mzaza, that is a bit laggy...
[20:13] <cristina> hm...what to do? use startup not use...
[20:13] <CrownWheel> mzaza, wow.  I did not find that when I went looking...
[20:13] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: Is that normal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUd0Hy5Acb8
[20:13] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, maybe you wanna post your fstab so people can have a look at it
[20:13] <Psycholiquid71> Everythingis working jsut wont auto mount and the other part is just irritating me but it does work
[20:13] <cristina> use mzaza prog
[20:13] <cristina> ..
[20:13] <Psycholiquid71> ok posting
[20:13] <Quest> Psycholiquid71,  i wont install an app on all windows clients.
[20:13] <thvle> anyone help me
[20:13] <mzaza> CrownWheel: I tried it with burning Windows 7 ISO to USB drive because Ubuntu startup disk creator didn't work. And it worked with me.
[20:13] <Quest> Psycholiquid71,  iT** wont install an app on all windows clients.
[20:13] <elo19> me too... help please
[20:14] <CrownWheel> mzaza, oh wait. does that let you RUN Windows from a USB stick, or just install it? (actually, either would have worked for me...)
[20:14] <mzaza> cristina: When I tried burning Windows 7 startup disk creator didn't work, i don't know about windows xp. but winusb worked for me.
[20:14] <bennypr0fane> elo19 at the oment it is not possible to help you because no one in this channel is sitting at your pc
[20:15] <cristina> hm...ok i`ll tryit
[20:15] <mzaza> CrownWheel: it just makes windows live startup disk
[20:15] <CrownWheel> that's what it looked like...  neat.
[20:15] <elo19> bennypr0fane: dont understand what you mean?
[20:15] <bennypr0fane> elo19 you need to give as more information, or better, all the information you have pertaining to your problem
[20:15] <mzaza> CrownWheel: Just to install, to do what you're talking about you'll have to backup a windows xp installation and convert it to iso then burn in it, as far as i knkow
[20:15] <zykotick9> Psycholiquid71: looks like fog was last updated 2011.  if you want a live imaging solution, i'd suggest you check out http://clonezilla.org/ for sure.
[20:16] <Psycholiquid71> http://pastebin.com/xbv5iCab
[20:16] <bennypr0fane> elo19 you could start by naming your distro version, your laptop model, which desktop environment you use, etc. etc.
[20:17] <Psycholiquid71> Yeah Clonezilla is nice but FOG is so much better I works for an unamed airline company and we use it across multiple states clonezilla just cant cut multiple locations
[20:17] <elo19> basically if i remove the mouse i cannot use laptop.... touchpad does not work anymore.....
[20:17] <bennypr0fane> elo19 otherwise it's not possible to help you
[20:17]  * zykotick9 sees pastebin.com and goes ehhhh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ has no ads!
[20:17] <Rahail> any one ? reseting teamviwer ID.. after ubnuto clone
[20:17] <elo19> zorin os gnome
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> elo19, Not supported here
[20:18] <elo19> zorin os lite
[20:18] <bennypr0fane> nothing wrong with pastebin
[20:18] <b14d3> Alright, I'm now deleting all the partitions on the drive, recreating them (just two, a primary and a swap), and trying to reinstall Ubuntu.
[20:18] <Psycholiquid71> well ads suck but I was just typing the first thing to come ot mind
[20:18] <bennypr0fane> elo19 then you should look for your distro's support channels. It sounds to me like a driver issue
[20:19] <elo19> zorin os is based on ubuntu
[20:19] <bennypr0fane> but it's not ubuntu
[20:19] <bennypr0fane> lots of things can be different in derivatives
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> elo19, Still not supported. ;)
[20:19] <elo19> how to solve driver issue?
[20:19] <cristina> configure: error: in `/home/cristina/Music/winusb-1.0.11':
[20:19] <cristina> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[20:20] <cristina> mzaza
[20:20] <tortib> hi i'm trying to use git to checkout a repository yet I keep running into this error when I run git checkout fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
[20:20] <elo19> wilee-nilee: how would you solve problem if it were ubuntu?
[20:20] <theadmin> tortib: You shouldn't specify a path to the .git directory, but to it's parent
[20:21] <theadmin> tortib: i.e. git checkout /path/to/something NOT git checkout /path/to/something/.git
[20:21] <tortib> that doesn't seem to be working either?
[20:21] <wushu> hey! can someone help me figure out how to limit ssh logins to only one user? i added "AllowUsers myusername" to the end of sshd_config, but i can't figure out how to put it into effect
[20:22] <tortib> wushu: restart ssh
[20:22] <xub69> wushu: did you restart the ssh server?
[20:22] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, what behavior tells you autmount isn't working
[20:22] <mzaza> cristina: you're running 32 bit or 64 bit?
[20:23] <mzaza> cristina: and which ubuntu version?
[20:23] <tortib> theadmin: any idea why i would be running into this problem?  This is the repo I'm trying to checkout https://github.com/prof7bit/goxtool
[20:23] <Psycholiquid71> when I log in after reboot and path to it, it is empty but if I run mount -a it mounts them immediatly
[20:23] <cristina> 32
[20:23] <cristina> lubuntu
[20:23] <wushu> tortib, xub69: i am doing this remotely so when i do service ssh restart i only get something about pid..
[20:23] <cristina> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[20:24] <mzaza> cristina: download this https://launchpad.net/~colingille/+archive/freshlight/+files/winusb_1.0.11+precise1_i386.deb
[20:24] <xub69> mzaza: just curious, what is winusb?
[20:24] <theadmin> tortib: ...Woah. Seems that repo is broken.
[20:24] <tortib> hmm so it's not just me then interesting
[20:24] <theadmin> tortib: Can't checkout from it myself the way that normally works :/
[20:24] <mzaza> xub69: A tool that burns windows ISO on usb disk.
[20:25] <wushu> xub69, tortib: so i guess my question is how i can restart ssh remotely. silly question i guess, but still
[20:25] <dividebyzer0> hey wushu, after doing the config changes in sshd.... run "service sshd restart" for changes to take effect
[20:25] <cristina> erorr
[20:25] <cristina> wtf
[20:25] <Psycholiquid71_> There this is better
[20:25] <theadmin> wushu: sudo restart ssh
[20:25] <dividebyzer0> you can do it remotely while still connected via ssh... youll drop the connection but can reconnect in a couple seconds
[20:25] <jamesaepp> LOOKING for help on how to mount smb and ftp locations in ubuntu 12.04 PROPERLY
[20:25] <xub69> mzaza: I've had decent luck with dd, why not dd?
[20:26] <Psycholiquid71_> bennypr0fane: it will not auto mount but if I type mount -a it will mount them immdeiatly
[20:26] <cristina> xub69 what`s dd
[20:26] <cristina> ?
[20:26] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, you could try removing the auto option
[20:26] <theadmin> jamesaepp: mount.cifs //servername/sharename mountpoint -o username=YOUR_USERNAME,password=YOUR_PASSWORD
[20:26] <dividebyzer0> christina, google it. really good tool for sysadmin work!!
[20:26] <anivar> #ubuntu-devel
[20:26] <theadmin> jamesaepp: No idea about FTP though.
[20:26] <wushu> theadmin: sudo restart ssh tells me "ssh start/running, process 7948"
[20:26] <Psycholiquid71_> bennypr0fane: but then will it mount them on startup
[20:26] <mzaza> xub69: This was easier, if you could give me a hint and assist cristina please write the command to burn the windows iso on a usb
[20:26] <theadmin> wushu: Well, then it's restarted.
[20:26] <theadmin> wushu: Tada.
[20:26] <dividebyzer0> wushu, thats correct
[20:27] <wushu> aha :)
[20:27] <jamesaepp> theadmin: Does this automatically mount on boot or no?
[20:27] <wushu> thx
[20:27] <dividebyzer0> yessir
[20:27] <bennypr0fane> because: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Options says: "auto - The filesystem can be mounted automatically (at bootup, or when mount is passed the -a option). This is really unnecessary as this is the default action of mount -a anyway. "
[20:27] <theadmin> jamesaepp: No, you should put it in fstab then
[20:27] <voyage> why my friend has been banned for asking a simple question (no warnings given to him either). question was. 1. can I install applications on windows clients with a linux server (to all clients at once with a single instruction), just in a way that active directory and domain control system does by the aid of a windows server? if not (most probably) are there any work arounds? 2. how to do all that if the clients and server are both
[20:27] <jamesaepp> fstab is a PoS
[20:27] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, so maybe it'll just work without auto
[20:27] <mzaza> xub69: and if you could look at my problem :D please do http://askubuntu.com/questions/287491/ubuntu-13-04-after-upgrade-from-12-10-upgrade
[20:27] <b14d3> After completely deleting all partitions and reinstalling, still hanging at the "Loading Operating System..." screen.
[20:27] <elo19> wilee-nilee: i dont understand why you dont want to help me just because i have zorin..... is the primary goal of this channel to help people or is it to help just one distro? i mean solution for ubuntu will probably work for zorin as well....
[20:27] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: Ill give that a try and see what happens
[20:28] <xub69> cristina: it can do many things, afaik it's mainly for copying or reading data, I normally try something like dd if=/path/to/win.iso of=/dev/sdx conv=noerror,notrunc ; # where sdx is your usb.  there is a forum post going into more detail: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[20:28] <theadmin> jamesaepp: The line will look like this: //servername/sharename mountpoint username=YOUR_USERNAME,password=YOUR_PASSWORD,_netdev
[20:28] <jamesaepp> fstab has never worked for me in any distro/combination/guide used. Is there a GUI that does these mounts for me? I'm sick and tired of taking hours getting nowhere where in Windows it is literally tools-map - DONE
[20:28] <bennypr0fane> elo19 well someone might give you a hint once if you provide some basic info (last time I'm mentioning this)
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> elo19, It is not that I don't want to help, but I do not have an answer, and yes this is canonical released ubuntu support only.
[20:29] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: no dice
[20:29] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, does that mean "not working"? if so, :-(
[20:29] <Psycholiquid71> jamesaepp: I would love to do the interface but I am trying to minimize the machine and use terminal only to do all this
[20:30] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: yeah doesnt work but the mount -a mounts it no problem as ussual
[20:30] <elo19> bennypr0fane: i gave you info you asked for i think.... you said driver problem.... but i dont know how to proceed.....
[20:30] <jamesaepp> oh, CLIs. Nice, but if you're running a server -- most likely you'll have the hardware to run a GUI anyways. That is my philosophy
[20:30] <Psycholiquid71> I was thinking of running a csript to run mount -a after it is up and running but I really dont know where or how to do this
[20:31] <mzaza> xub69: I'll have to go, if you had any clue about my problem please write down to me on askubuntu, thanks :)
[20:31] <xub69> mzaza: i like that you included a video
[20:31] <Psycholiquid71> jamesaepp: running on a VM I have the hardware just trying to minimize and not take anymore space on SNA if I dont need to
[20:31] <Psycholiquid71> SAN
[20:31] <mzaza> xub69: Couldn't explain it really :D
[20:31] <jamesaepp> Psycholiquid71: sounds harder than it needs to be.
[20:32] <mzaza> xub69: That's not normal, right?
[20:32] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, I think rs.local is a good place to put a startup script
[20:32] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: I give it a try and find out Ill let you know
[20:33] <cristina> xub
[20:33] <xub69> mzaza: yeah, that's weird, I've only really seen that when messing with an ntfs partition
[20:33] <cristina> this will ...broke my sistem
[20:33] <xub69> cristina: it could, be careful.
[20:34] <cristina> how do i stop it
[20:34] <cristina> ?
[20:34] <cristina> ctrl+x
[20:34] <cristina> ctrl+C?
[20:35] <xub69> ctrl -c
[20:35] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: paydirt that worked
[20:35] <MiniD> I found the file InstallGenieo.dmg (sha256: 44eae526f3ec2dd071cec4a1ff0d25bc8209a040739e62a0588dfabce476f1d6) in my downloads folder without any recollection of having told anything to download this. I inspected the downloads log on Chromium Web Browser and found it appears to have came from http://download.genieo.com/partner/genTugM/mac_release/live/InstallGenieo.dmg. However, as I stated, I do not believe I ever confirmed this download i
[20:35] <cristina> Setup cannot find the Installation CD. Please insert the %s CD into the CD drive and click Retry	VS CustoProdDescVisual Studio Baseline:The component currently being processed cannot be canceled&Are you sure you want to cancel Setup?,Error code %ld for this component means "%s"^C56517+0 records in
[20:35] <cristina> 56516+0 records out
[20:35] <cristina> 28936192 bytes (29 MB) copied, 121.754 s, 238 kB/s
[20:35] <cristina> no i will go with winusb
[20:35] <xub69> k
[20:35] <cristina> just need a compiler..
[20:35] <cristina> i think
[20:35] <MiniD> don't click that link btw, I have no idea what it is
[20:36] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, where you from? I don't understand your expressions :-) does paydirt mean success?
[20:37] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: US, just some redneck speech I picked up over the years
[20:37] <Psycholiquid71> and yes that worked like a champ
[20:37] <bennypr0fane> awesome
[20:37] <xub69> Psycholiquid71: thought it means you hit gold.
[20:37] <Psycholiquid71> LOL
[20:37] <Psycholiquid71> i wish
[20:37] <bennypr0fane> well english is not my native language, so...
[20:39] <rinselberg> I have new Mac. Just tried to download Ubuntu Desktop 64-bit. Looks like the download starts but instantly aborts. ??
[20:39] <elo19> wilee-nilee: ok but so your primary goal is not "altruistic help to other human beings"..... my bad.... i didnt think "interests" were a big thing here..... i realize i understood things wrong.... i thought that because the word "ubuntu" is closely related to "altruism"...... but here you use the word not in the zulu sense i guess......
[20:39] <talk2me12> helo
[20:40] <benzrf> hello! I'm in a bit of a pickle!
[20:40] <talk2me12> what is the difference between ubuntu and Xubuntu
[20:40] <bennypr0fane> elo19 you may be just about correct there
[20:40] <benzrf> talk2me12: the default desktop environment
[20:40] <benzrf> ok, so I was upgrading my mother's windows laptop
[20:40] <bennypr0fane> talk2me12, they use different desktop enviromemnts
[20:40] <theadmin> talk2me12: Xubuntu uses Xfce as the desktop. Xfce feels somewhat like the classic Ubuntu (pre-11.04), and is also more suitable for older hardware.
[20:40] <benzrf> It was already partitioned into a C drive, mostly full, and a D drive, mostly empty.
[20:40] <BlueEagle> !enter | benzrf
[20:40] <wizard_A> is there no other way other than hostpad to make ad-hoc(with internet sharing) visible to android devices??
[20:41] <BlueEagle> and !ot for that matter.
[20:41] <theadmin> wizard_A: Android doesn't support ad-hoc wi-fi networks :/ Blame Google for that.
[20:41] <benzrf> When installing Ubuntu, I partitioned the D drive (which was only a partition in one physical HD) into one small partition to hold the existing files there, and a new large one to hold Ubuntu.
[20:42] <MiniD> actually I'm not too worried considering its a file for a mac lol :/
[20:42] <mzaza> xub69: When I try fdisk /dev/sda1 -l I get this erro Disk /dev/sda5 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[20:42] <benzrf> This worked fine and Ubuntu ran well. I then tried booting into Windows, installed on the 'C drive' partition. Windows did not boot properly and just returned to POST in a loop. I then tried booting into Ubuntu, only to discover that it didn't work either.
[20:42] <mzaza> xub69: Does that mean anything?
[20:43] <benzrf> The ubuntu loading screen showed up, but after it vanished I only got a black screen while the fan whirred.
[20:43] <theadmin> mzaza: /dev/sda1 isn't a disk, it's a partition. You want "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[20:43] <bennypr0fane> elo19 however, it's unreasonable to expect the grocery store to sell you a couch, or wahtever. if you go ask for help at the wrong place, you're just less likely to get it, that#s how it works
[20:43] <Psycholiquid71> benzrf: sounds like you need grub
[20:43] <mzaza> theadmin: How can i view the whole partition layout?
[20:43] <wizard_A> that means i've to use hostpad, but will that be that stable a connection for other laptops in my network??
[20:43] <benzrf> My theory is that Windows failed to boot since I'd altered the partitions and it expected them to be a different size, but while trying to boot it messed with the FS enough to break Ubuntu.
[20:43] <theadmin> mzaza: sudo fdisk -l, or sudo parted -l for saner information
[20:44] <benzrf> Psycholiquid71: I had grub, but after attempting to start the windows recovery tool, grub started complaining about an invalid fs, or something
[20:44] <benzrf> although I did not actually run the recovery
[20:44] <Psycholiquid71> windows recovery tool would try and fix the MBR which in turn would destroy grub I believe
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> benzrf that sounds to me like something went wrong during the repartitioning
[20:45] <mzaza> theadmin: This is the URL of the problem "http://askubuntu.com/questions/287491/ubuntu-13-04-after-upgrade-from-12-10-upgrade" and this is the partition layout "http://pastebin.com/knrkYvnv" Why do this problem exist :D ?
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> benzrf what Psycholiquid71 said
[20:45] <benzrf> well, ubuntu booted fine before I attempted to boot windowas
[20:45] <benzrf> *windows
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> what did you use fir repartiotioning
[20:45] <benzrf> the ubuntu installer
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> *for
[20:46] <bennypr0fane> so the ubuntu gparted app
[20:46] <benzrf> I guess
[20:46] <bennypr0fane> post the output of fdisk -l
[20:46] <theadmin> mzaza: Nope
[20:46] <Psycholiquid71> benzrf: I assume you used the graphical interface
[20:46] <benzrf> yes
[20:47] <benzrf> bennypr0fane: when booting from the install disk
[20:47] <benzrf> ?
[20:47] <Psycholiquid71> bennypr0fane: it probably auto partitioned on him
[20:47] <mzaza> theadmin: ok, thanks
[20:47] <benzrf> Psycholiquid71: no, I did it manually
[20:47] <Psycholiquid71> ahhh
[20:47] <benzrf> I started with a ~100GB c-drive partition and a ~350GB d-drive partition
[20:47] <sense> I upgraded my mother's laptop from 12.04 to 13.04. Previously I had to manually compile the rt539sta driver for her Asus K73S laptop, but on 12.10 and 13.04, although I can still get it to compile, it causes the laptop to have a regular kernel panics. Is there anyone who knows more about getting Ralink chips to work like this in Raring?
[20:47] <mzaza> theadmin: i will suicide
[20:47] <elo19> bennypr0fane: i tried going to the right place but still waiting for an answer.... there are very few people (community is much smaller than ubuntu)....
[20:48] <benzrf> c-drive was mostly full, I left it alone. d-drive was mostly empty, I resized it to about the size of the used space in it, then created a new partition from the resulting free space
[20:48] <benzrf> I then installed ubuntu in the new partition
[20:48] <bennypr0fane> elo19 classic distro hopper's problem...
[20:48] <elo19> hopper?
[20:48] <Psycholiquid71> benzrf: is it two physical drives?
[20:48] <benzrf> no
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> benzrf run sudo fdsik -l
[20:49] <Psycholiquid71> benzrf: I can tell you fromt eh start you hosed the MBR for Windows
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> *fdisk -l
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> sorry
[20:49] <benzrf> MBR?
[20:50] <Psycholiquid71> Master Boot Record
[20:50] <benzrf> well, windows booted from the C partition, and I didn't touch it
[20:50] <benzrf> |
[20:50] <bennypr0fane> Psycholiquid71, but ubuntu installer should put  grub on the mbr, and grub should handle windows booting just fine, right?
[20:50] <onewanman> Hello Everyone  any one having Flash Player crash Firefox  21.0 Ubuntu 13.04 ??
[20:51] <Psycholiquid71> I think and I am not sure, but you have to install Ubuntu then Windows or the MBR gets all messed up
[20:51] <bennypr0fane> benzrf you have just that one harddisc, right?
[20:51] <benzrf> bennypr0fane: yes
[20:51] <elo19> bennypr0fane: i dont understand what you said
[20:52] <benzrf> right now grub does not work right, one sec while I check the error
[20:52] <chop1n> First install windows, windows is known to overwrite the boot loader
[20:52] <Morph4me> correct
[20:52] <benzrf> hold on
[20:53] <benzrf> grub sez: 'error: unknown filesystem'
[20:53] <chop1n> if you need to reinstall grub there is a way
[20:53] <benzrf> this began after booting into the windows restore utility but not using it
[20:53] <benzrf> I can currently only use the computer when booting from the install disk
[20:53] <bennypr0fane> elo19 the lacking support is very often a problem with the smaller distros. In fact, one good reason for me to leave some alone. Try a non distro specific forum like linuxquestions.org. Google for linux support, there's tons of them out there
[20:53] <x2> Hey guys, another touchpad problem incoming. Synaptic touchpad. WHen I press left button, touchpad ignores touches lower than 500-600. Which synclient option is that?
[20:54] <benzrf> I'm at the grub rescue prompt
[20:54] <bennypr0fane> benzrf is that error msg when trying to boot Ubuntu or Win?
[20:54] <benzrf> at grub
[20:54] <benzrf> when I press the power button
[20:55] <benzrf> one moment, booting from the install disc
[20:55] <bennypr0fane> reinstall grub is my best bet
[20:55] <benzrf> even before grub messed up, I couldn't use either ubuntu or windows
[20:55] <benzrf> let me recap:
[20:55] <benzrf> 1. installed ubuntu, doing repartition
[20:55] <benzrf> 2. could boot ubuntu fine
[20:55] <benzrf> 3. attempted to boot into windows, returned to post in a loop
[20:56] <benzrf> 4. attempted to boot into ubuntu, reached black screen after ubuntu loading screen disappeared
[20:56] <benzrf> black screen did not subside, had to hard reset.
[20:56] <benzrf> retried several times
[20:56] <benzrf> 5. booted into windows restore utility but did not use
[20:56] <benzrf> 6. afterward, grub does not start, complains about unknown fs
[20:57] <benzrf> can currently boot from install disk
[20:57] <Psycholiquid71> benzrf: I think this is your issue but read carefully because every case is different: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822023
[20:57] <benzrf> looking
[20:57] <benzrf> this seems different :|
[20:58] <bennypr0fane> benzrf I would boot the live disc and do grub-install https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[20:58] <benzrf> wait
[20:58] <benzrf> why would trying to boot windows break my ubuntu install?
[20:58] <benzrf> windows was previously installed
[20:58] <benzrf> I did not touch its partition
[20:58] <benzrf> windows refused to boot
[20:58] <benzrf> afterward, broken ubuntu
[20:58] <bennypr0fane> benzrf it doesn't n make sense really
[20:59] <bennypr0fane> but that's hwo computers are
[20:59] <benzrf> boo hiss
[20:59] <Psycholiquid71> I would do what bennypr0fane says and try reinstalling grub
[20:59] <benzrf> :c
[20:59] <bennypr0fane> how bout that fdisk -l?
[20:59] <Psycholiquid71> it will at least get you up and running on Ubuntu to get your files off if needed
[20:59] <benzrf> buntu install disk loadin
[20:59] <zettazete__> Hey everybody I just reinstalled 13.04 and this time around Unity is not showing up.
[21:00] <neo_user> hello i am new to linux
[21:00] <chop1n> What about tryinh to sudo update-grub2 ?
[21:00] <neo_user> i have a dowloaded software package how do i install it
[21:00] <gotwig> why are the masters of the universe ignoring me?
[21:00] <bennypr0fane> neo_user is it a .deb file?
[21:01] <neo_user> its tar.gz file
[21:01] <bennypr0fane> chop1n that only makes sense if you made changes to grub before that
[21:01] <bekks> neo_user: Then you have to unpack it, and follow the build instructions in the readme provided by the author of that software package.
[21:01] <benzrf> damn slow software
[21:01] <benzrf> >:I
[21:01] <Oryx> Has anyone else noticed that the linux-headers packages for the 3.8/3.9 kernels for raring and saucy are not including a ton of header files?
[21:02] <neo_user> i ve extracted it but dunno how to use it in terminal
[21:02] <bennypr0fane> neo_user if you're actually new to linux the instructions from bekks may be a bit above your level
[21:02] <benzrf> fdisk -l shows nothing
[21:02] <x2> Is it possible to treat touchpad as a mouse in ubuntu?
[21:02] <benzrf> ._.
[21:02] <elo19> bennypr0fane: ok thanks bennypr0fane....will go now.....  ps i feel there is some awareness of (zulu) ubuntu in you, dont let it die, never let it die, that is the only hope for humanity.....
[21:02] <bennypr0fane> neo_user what exactly is in it? mabye you got .deb files in there
[21:03] <neo_user> its cisco vpn client
[21:03] <neo_user> for tunelling univ internet
[21:03] <Cyris> hey does anybody have a good tutorial for "oracle Virtualbox"? i am going to run a new ubuntu on it so i can mess around with it
[21:03] <bennypr0fane> benzrf you need to sudo it, like I said
[21:03] <Cyris> the tutorial i have is an older version
[21:03] <bennypr0fane> elo19 good luck
[21:04] <elo19> wilee-nilee: thanks to you as well for paying attention to me....
[21:04] <bekks> Cyris: The official vbox documentation ios the best tutorial you can get - and it is for the current version, 4.2.12
[21:04] <benzrf> oh derp
[21:04] <elo19> :)
[21:04] <Cyris> bekks: thanks dude
[21:04] <benzrf> alright
[21:04] <benzrf> let me paste this
[21:05] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[21:07] <neo_user> @bennypr0fane can you help
[21:08] <bennypr0fane> neo_user I dunno what to do with that
[21:08] <carrera> The Nouveau driver crashes during install. How can I install 13.04 now that there is no more alternate edition?
[21:08] <benzrf> alright
[21:08] <benzrf> this is the fdisk -l:
[21:08] <bennypr0fane> I didn't even know you could send files over xchat! :-O
[21:08] <benzrf> cat: /home/benzrf/foo: No such file or directory
[21:08] <benzrf> aww
[21:08] <Aww> :O
[21:08] <benzrf> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[21:08] <benzrf> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[21:08] <benzrf> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[21:08] <benzrf> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[21:08] <benzrf> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[21:08] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <benzrf> Disk identifier: 0x76692ca8
[21:08] <aliendude5300> Is oracle java in the repositories?
[21:08] <Aww> gg
[21:08] <bekks> aliendude5300: no.
[21:08] <bekks> !java > aliendude5300
[21:09] <neo_user> benzrf can you look into the problem?
[21:09] <benzrf> neo_user: can you elaborate?
[21:09] <nottapro> What is the root password on the Live CD of ubuntu 12?
[21:09] <gotwig> please take a look at bug #1174070
[21:10] <bennypr0fane> benzrf better not paste it in the channel
[21:10] <neo_user> i ve this software to run
[21:10] <benzrf> k
[21:10] <neo_user> its cisco vpn client
[21:11] <neo_user> @benzrf...how do i install it
[21:11] <bennypr0fane> neo_user look closely where you downloaded that package from. If a pakcage comes as a tarball, there are usually instructions available for what exactly to do with it
[21:11] <benzrf> I don't knowww
[21:11] <bennypr0fane> neo_user you might have to compile it from source
[21:11] <benzrf> hellp :C
[21:11] <yeats> nottapro: there's no root password, just do 'sudo <command>'
[21:12] <nottapro> yeats: okay, thank you
[21:12] <neo_user> how do i compile from source
[21:12] <yeats> !compile | neo_user
[21:13] <neo_user> i remember it guy doing some stuff in terminal
[21:13] <neo_user> like unzippimng and then intalling
[21:13] <yeats> neo_user: what are you trying to install?
[21:13] <bennypr0fane> 1. configure, then 2. make 3 make install
[21:13] <b14d3> Multiple issues with fresh install, can't seem to get past the "Loading Operating System..." screen. Trying to install Ubuntu 12.04. Any ideas?
[21:14] <bennypr0fane> neo_user maybe give the url where u downloaded it from
[21:14] <Jordan_U> neo_user: Cisco VPN support is available in the default repositories, and configurable via network-manager.
[21:15] <yeats> !info network-manager-vpnc | neo_user
[21:15] <Jordan_U> neo_user: So ignore that tar.gz file completely, you don't need or want it.
[21:15] <neo_user> yeats and ubottu
[21:15] <bennypr0fane> Jordan_U good point. neo_user If you can find a package in your repositories, that's always recommended where to look first
[21:16] <bennypr0fane> neo_user ubottu is a bot
[21:16] <bennypr0fane> b14d3 more info please...
[21:16] <XHEART24> HI
[21:16] <XHEART24> hello
[21:16] <neo_user> how do i find in repositories
[21:16] <XHEART24> this works?
[21:17] <neo_user> i tried searching in ubuntu software center
[21:17] <bennypr0fane> ...and?
[21:17] <b14d3> bennypr0fane, What information would you like? It's a fresh install on a drive that has only ever had Ubuntu on it. Had some file system errors previously, and have since reformatted
[21:17] <bennypr0fane> b14d3 everyhting you've got
[21:17] <neo_user> and it doesnt show any options
[21:19] <b14d3> That's really about it. I've booted into a USB livecd of 12.04 and after install I can't get it to go past the Loading Operating System screen. Online I've read that it seems to be that grub isn't installed, but even after manually running the install I get the same errors.
[21:19] <neo_user> yeats and jordanu can u elaborate ur solution
[21:20] <bennypr0fane> neo_user u tried different search terms?
[21:20] <bennypr0fane> b14d3 how did you create the live usb?
[21:21] <neo_user> yes i tried cisco
[21:21] <neo_user> cisco vpn client
[21:21] <neo_user> openclient
[21:21] <bennypr0fane> did you try just vpn?
[21:21] <felon> just installed 13.04 and my display is cutoff at 4:3 1024x768, monitor not detected. using nvidia 6200
[21:22] <b14d3> I've used the USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com, with an Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop iso
[21:23] <bennypr0fane> you downloaded the iso yourself? checked the hash?
[21:23] <b14d3> Yes I downloaded the iso myself, but have not checked the hash
[21:23] <benzrf> ok guys
[21:23] <benzrf> an update:
[21:23] <jailbird> Just get
[21:23] <jailbird> Windows just works
[21:23] <benzrf> fdisk is listing my ubuntu parition as 'hidden w95 fat32 (lba)' instead of ext4 (which is what I set)
[21:24] <benzrf> could windows have done that?
[21:24] <loldog> Hello
[21:24] <benzrf> when I tried to boot into it?
[21:24] <loldog> I upgraded to 13.04
[21:24] <bekks> benzrf: ext4 is a filesystem, not a partition type.
[21:24] <benzrf> ok
[21:24] <benzrf> no
[21:24] <benzrf> it's under the 'system' column
[21:24] <loldog> Black unresponsive screen when I boot after 13.04. Can boot into a recovery terminal but startx yields same result
[21:24] <XHEART24> i have ubuntu 12.04 how can i upgrade to 13.04
[21:24] <loldog> What to do_
[21:24] <bekks> benzrf: And thats the column listing the partition types.
[21:24] <benzrf> ok
[21:24] <kijutsu> Dumb question of the moment --- I have 12.10 installed on a G5 webserver.. what can i do to prevent an upgrace to 13.04 when i apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:24] <Dr_willis> !upgrade | XHEART24
[21:24] <jailbird> Stop the pain use windows
[21:25] <neo_user> bennrprofane i got ciso enabled vpn , i installed it but dunno where the application is to run
[21:25] <neo_user> its not in dash home
[21:25] <benzrf> what's that type then?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> benzrf: It doesn't matter what fdisk thinks it is.
[21:25] <benzrf> jailbird: which pain? the pain of something too good?
[21:25] <benzrf> Jordan_U: well, why would it list it as hidden w95 fat32 if I set it to ext4?
[21:25] <cristian_c> an other question:
[21:25] <Jordan_U> neo_user: Right click on the network manager applet.
[21:26] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[21:26] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[21:26] <neo_user> where is that jordan u
[21:26] <bennypr0fane> b14d3 Once I had that issue, I had mounted the iso to  the flash drive with dd. that didn't work because that image was not bootable, so grub was missing. IIRC pendrivelinux.com has instructions fir separately adding grub, I think? mayber check that
[21:26] <bekks> benzrf: The type is "Linux", the type ID is 83.
[21:27] <jailbird> benzrf: stop kidding. Windows works. Linux is slow
[21:27] <benzrf> jailbird: ahahaha
[21:27] <Dr_willis> jailbird,  please troll elsewhere
[21:27] <bennypr0fane> jailbird what the hell do you want?
[21:27] <benzrf> jailbird: I have to say you're a pretty poor troll
[21:27] <benzrf> you're not believable at all, sorry :c
[21:27] <benzrf> try concern trolling, it's usually much more effective
[21:27] <b14d3> bennypr0fane, I've tried installing Grub manuallly, but it didn't work. Actually still had the exact some thing happen. I am, however, currently checking the hash to make sure that is correct.
[21:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hi
[21:27] <benzrf> ToAruShiroiNeko: hi
[21:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to follow http://www.hanselman.com/blog/InstallingUbuntu104LTSOnWindowsVirtualPCOnWindows7.aspx
[21:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am failing to boot to ubuntu :(
[21:28] <savio> jailbird windows sucks ask any admin
[21:28] <jailbird> benzrf: so many problems with linux
[21:28] <esing> I wonder why xdotool type won't work for entering passwords in the shell. E.g. ssh test@IP;sleep 4; xdotool type mypassword; xdotool key Return
[21:28] <Nothing_Much> Honestly, you should upgrade to 12.04 at the least ToAruShiroiNeko
[21:28] <benzrf> my formerly ext4 partition is now listed as id 1c
[21:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> okay
[21:28] <Nothing_Much> But what issues are going on?
[21:28] <benzrf> could windows have done that
[21:28] <Psycholiquid71> please dont feed the troll
[21:28] <benzrf> issue is that GRUB in it won'y work
[21:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I read "segmentation fault" on my virtual drive
[21:29] <neo_user> jordanu?   bennyproane?
[21:29] <Nothing_Much> On Windows Virtual PC?
[21:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah
[21:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> my drive is fine
[21:29] <jailbird> benzrf: you use windows.
[21:29] <savio> jailbird windows need extensive patching to keep it secure
[21:29] <benzrf> jailbird: I try not to
[21:29] <Nothing_Much> Goddammit guys, jailbird is an obvious troll, ignore him
[21:30] <bennypr0fane> b14d3 I thikn you'll have to reinstall the whole thing anyhow. try mounting the iso (if the hash is ok) with unetbootin, which automatically makes it bootable.
[21:30] <Nothing_Much> Anyways, ToAruShiroiNeko, try out Virtualbox or VMWare player
[21:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to do it with windows virtual pc
[21:30] <johnjohn1011> 13.04 works great in vmware player
[21:30] <kijutsu> I dont want to update to 13.04 on my webserver..how can I prevent and still maintain regular package updates?
[21:30] <Nothing_Much> I don't use Windows VPC so I'm not sure how to help you with that
[21:30] <Quest> which client is used mostly for multi ssh ?
[21:30] <neo_user> jordan U stil stuck with it
[21:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit
[21:30] <jailbird> benzrf: i could load virus on linux. Your not checking. Best time to strick
[21:30] <b14d3> bennypr0fane, If you'll be online for a bit, I'll try that out and let you know what happens.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> neo_user: Top right corner of your screen.
[21:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have a 64bit OS though
[21:31] <Quest> rephrase: which app is used mostly for multi ssh and has most userbase with support?
[21:31] <bennypr0fane> b14d3 I dunno
[21:31] <sherox> hi guys i have a file with an unknown/hidden file type. is there a way the ls command can unhide this and make it viewable?
[21:31] <Nothing_Much> It's alright then, if you run 64, you can still have a 32 bit guest
[21:31] <jatakk> Just not the other way around
[21:31] <benzrf> jailbird: please do
[21:31] <benzrf> I could use some excitement
[21:31] <jailbird> Ubuntu is hodgepodge of garbadge
[21:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the documentation I linked talks about "Hit F6, then ESC. Then add vga=791 noreplace-paravirt at the end of the white command"
[21:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what would this do?
[21:32] <jatakk> shere_khan_: ls -a
[21:32] <benzrf> jailbird: if you /whois  benzrf, you can find my ip
[21:32] <Nothing_Much> Hmm.. a Fixed disk, try dynamic instead, there might be a problem with something like that
[21:32] <benzrf> please try to load a virus onto my system
[21:32] <benzrf> thanks :)
[21:32] <savio> jailbird http://www.pcworld.com/article/202452/why_linux_is_more_secure_than_windows.html
[21:32] <jatakk> sherox: ls -a
[21:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to try ubuntu without installing rather than trying ot install
[21:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its being strange :(
[21:32] <neo_user> jordan u do u mean i should u native vpn connection method
[21:32] <neo_user> instead of cisco
[21:32] <sherox> jatakk: so like ls -a filename ?
[21:33] <bennypr0fane> benzrf well your fstab is messed up. Ubuntu won't mount as fat32
[21:33] <Nothing_Much> ToAruShiroiNeko, switch it to a dynamic disk
[21:33] <carrera> My nvidia M360 card crashes with the Nouveau driver during install. So I used the alternate edition to install the nvidia drivers. Can anyone tell me how I can install 13.04 ?
[21:33] <shere_khan_> jatakk, why?
[21:33] <benzrf> bennypr0fane: ok. how do I set it back to being ext4?
[21:33] <jatakk> sherox: No just navigate to the directory and type "ls -a" and it'll give you all the files in that  directory
[21:33] <bekks> benzrf: The partition type does not indicate onhow it is mounted.
[21:33] <jatakk> shere_khan_: Sorry I highlighted the wrong person :P
[21:33] <bekks> bennypr0fane: ^^
[21:33] <Jordan_U> neo_user: Network manager supports Cisco VPNs, I'm not sure what you mean by "use native vpn connection method instead of cisco".
[21:34] <bennypr0fane> bekks what?
[21:34] <sherox> jatakk: the file itself is not hidden. the file extention and I need to know what file type it is
[21:34] <neo_user> oh i mean no need to use cisco client software
[21:34] <robs> join #ubuntu-br
[21:34] <bekks> bennypr0fane: The partition type does not indicate on how the filesyste on that partition is mounted.
[21:34] <jatakk> sherox: Oh, well files don't need extensions in Linuz
[21:35] <jatakk> *Linux
[21:35] <bennypr0fane> bekks correct
[21:35] <MartynKeigher2> hey all...i need a little hlep with sites-avail / sites-enbale
[21:35] <jatakk> sherox: Not sure how to find out what file type something is without opening it though
[21:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Nothing_Much dynaic disk?
[21:35] <bekks> jatakk: "file yourfile"
[21:35] <sherox> jatakk: is there a way for me to open it without knowing what program to open it in?
[21:35] <bekks> jatakk: That will tell you whats in yourfile.
[21:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you mean a dynamic virtual disk? why is the disk even relevant?
[21:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wouldnt ubuntu work without a drive?
[21:36] <thechef> my resolv.conf contains only 127.0.0.1. That's wrong it should contain the routers address and it worked before and I didn't make any changes to the system. Why is is set to 127.0.0.1 - how can I fix it?
[21:36] <Nothing_Much> There's a difference between the dynamic and fixed disk, mostly performance ones
[21:36] <MartynKeigher2> i ahve my main wordpress site installed in /var/www/ and i have installed ttrss (http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki) in this location  /var/www/ttrss
[21:36] <jatakk> sherox: Do what bekks said.
[21:37] <kijutsu> MartynKeigher2: I've found that using multiple sites on apache2 is easier when you put each site into it's own folder inside /var/www
[21:37] <Nothing_Much> Dynamic basically means that it's created quicker and will expand to a size if it becomes overfilled with data
[21:37] <OS-10635> guys, I run this command host -t mx google.com | cut -d" " -f7 and it returned sub.sub.domain.com. (I want to remote the . at the end of com, I can't use cut since . already exist in the same line ) how to remve the last char ?
[21:37] <kijutsu> MartynKeigher2: for exapmle... /var/www/wordpress && /var/www/ttrss
[21:37] <Quest> rephrase: which app is used mostly for multi ssh and has most userbase with support?
[21:37] <MartynKeigher2> if i go to http://lab.martynkeigher.com/ttrss  it works fine. BUT if i go to it FROM http://lab.martynkeigher.com it doesnt work.
[21:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Nothing_Much I know but I am only trying to "try ubuntu" rather than installing it, it should load itself only to memory, right?
[21:38] <MartynKeigher2> i did that INITIALLY...but it would just not work at all. therefore stuck with /var/www/ttrss
[21:38] <kijutsu> MartynKeigher2: then you will need to examine each of the files you have in sites-available to make sure the root directory lines are correct.
[21:38] <shasha> hello
[21:38] <bennypr0fane> benzrf paste your fdisk -l and your fstab to paste.ubuntu.com, give a link here, and someone will be able to look at it. Also, grub-install should fix whatever is broken there. that's all I can think of for now, gotta go
[21:39] <MartynKeigher2> so..if i did reinstall it in /var/www/ttrss, intsead if /var/www/wordpress/ttrss what do i need to do?
[21:39] <MartynKeigher2> to get it tot work?
[21:39] <shasha> what's the terminal command to start a new thread?
[21:39] <jailbitcx> Ubuntu mysql last year you could hijack your system less than a minute. Ubuntu is less secure than windows
[21:39] <kijutsu> MartynKeigher2: also -- make sure that the site url is in there under the ServerName line
[21:40] <MartynKeigher2> i think the main issue is IF i navigate to the URL from my home page...it wont work. its like i need the theme to NOT CONTROL that URL or something.
[21:40] <sherox> bekks: ok sweet. now the file is a Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data. how do I open it?
[21:40] <comodo_dragon> i want dual boot win7 and ubuntu 12.10 via USB Stick.
[21:40] <ErdMutter> Question: How might it get conky loading my network information on ubuntu 13.04 on a macbook pro 9,2?
[21:40] <MartynKeigher2> can i copy the default in sites-avail for the ttrss and modify it?
[21:40] <bekks> sherox: You have to mount it.
[21:40] <bekks> sherox: So whats that file, actually? Is it a disk image?
[21:40] <comodo_dragon> i want dual boot win7 and ubuntu 12.10 via USB Stick.
[21:41] <shasha> guys?
[21:41] <sherox> bekks: yeah
[21:41] <MartynKeigher2> k..i'll uninstall it and try this again. putting it in its own folder  /var/www/ttrss
[21:41] <MartynKeigher2> brb
[21:41] <bekks> sherox: So how was that image file created?
[21:41] <savio> comodo_dragon !dualboot
[21:41] <sherox> bekks: im not sure but it's a partial disk image dump
[21:41] <kijutsu> I'm looking to prevent a major version upgrade on my webserver.. how do I do this and still allow regular package updates?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> benzrf: Grub doesn't care about partition ids from the partition table, and nether does pretty much anything else in GNU/Linux.
[21:42] <comodo_dragon> ?
[21:42] <Jordan_U> kijutsu: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:42] <kijutsu> Jordan_U: 12.10
[21:42] <comodo_dragon> i want to install win7 from usb and ubuntu from SAME US.
[21:42] <comodo_dragon> i want to install win7 from usb and ubuntu from SAME USB.
[21:42] <bekks> sherox: mkdir /mnt/partial; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/yourfile /mnt/partial
[21:43] <Jordan_U> kijutsu: That was a bad choice if you wanted to go a long time without a major upgrade. If you want that, next time choose an LTS release like 12.04.
[21:43] <bekks> sherox: That tries to mount it to /mnt/partial
[21:43] <kijutsu> Jordan_U: PPC 12.04 is kinda wonky
[21:43] <Jordan_U> kijutsu: When 12.10 goes EOL you'll need to upgrade, there's no way around that.
[21:43] <kijutsu> when is 12.10 EOL expected?
[21:44] <savio> comodo_dragon u mean on same usb you want to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[21:44] <comodo_dragon> same, yes
[21:44] <Yonney> hi all, which are the main tools that can interconnect both linux, mac and windows machines with screen sharing etc.? (so that clients/servers can be installed on each side by anyone, open-source/free tools)
[21:45] <comodo_dragon> savio, yes
[21:45] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to install Python 3.2 on Ubuntu 13.04, but I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5613992/
[21:45] <BlueProtoman> I had it working just fine before I upgraded last night.  Any tips?
[21:47] <sleyter> hola
[21:47] <sleyter> necesito una ayuda por favor
[21:47] <sleyter> ayudenme
[21:47] <Dr_willis> !es | sleyter
[21:47] <zqfmgb> k
[21:47] <sleyter> help me
[21:48] <Dr_willis> sleyter,  state the problem. see who can help
[21:48] <comodo_dragon> help me
[21:48] <sleyter> my problem is
[21:48] <cristina> hello i have a problem with space
[21:48] <kijutsu> Awesome... that crackhead jailbitcx is now PMing me.
[21:48] <sleyter> about my printer
[21:48] <comodo_dragon> i want install ubuntu and win7 in same USB to make install on newPC
[21:48] <zqfmgb> que necesitas?
[21:49] <sherox> bekks: you are amazing. I just navigated to the mount and its what I need. Now, there is folder that does not allow me to open it because "i don't have permission." Can I open through the shell or what should I do?
[21:49] <Dr_willis> comodo_dragon,  see if the pendrivelinux site has tools to make a bootable windows and linux usb.
[21:49] <x2> Help!
[21:49] <x2> I need somebody!
[21:49] <x2> Help!
[21:49] <x2> Not just anybody!
[21:49] <comodo_dragon> N SAME USB?
[21:49] <FloodBot1> x2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <sleyter> hi
[21:49] <Dr_willis> comodo_dragon,  go look and see..
[21:49] <sleyter> can help me
[21:49] <savio> comodo_dragon http://m.voices.yahoo.com/dual-boot-usb-stick-windows-7-ubuntu-910-6056142.html
[21:49] <sleyter> ?
[21:49] <comodo_dragon> ?
[21:50] <bekks> sherox: Open a terminal, and see whether you have access permissions on that folder.
[21:50] <Dr_willis> comodo_dragon,  since making a bootable windows usb isent really a ubuntu support question..  if a tool exists id bet Pendrivelinux has it
[21:50] <sleyter> please
[21:50] <sleyter> hello
[21:50] <Dr_willis> !details
[21:50] <zqfmgb> comodo you can partition the drive into two, or dd a disk image
[21:50] <BlueProtoman> kijutsu: It's not just me?
[21:51] <kijutsu> BlueProtoman: jailbitcx?
[21:51] <BlueProtoman> kijutsu: Yes.
[21:51] <sleyter> my is printer
[21:51] <sleyter> Inactive
[21:51] <kijutsu> BlueProtoman: hate to say.. might need to get an IRCop involved to akill the user.
[21:51] <BlueProtoman> kijutsu: I've already alerted #ubuntu-ops.
[21:51] <kijutsu> BlueProtoman: hah... 'nuff said :)
[21:52] <cristina> hello i have 2 pations 1- 25 gb ...where is my home directory and another one 130 gb /boot
[21:52] <BlueProtoman> Jordan_U, thank you.
[21:52] <loldog> dpkg gets stuck at updating inframs, what to do?
[21:52] <cristina> my 25 gb is full
[21:52] <kijutsu> Jordan_U: what BlueProtoman said..I second :)
[21:52] <cristina> how to use 130 gb ?
[21:53] <BlueProtoman> Now, Python 3.2 on a newly-upgraded Ubuntu 13.04?  I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5613992/
[21:53] <Jordan_U> BlueProtoman: kijutsu: You're welcome, but in the future it's best to let trolls go without comment or fanfare.
[21:53] <Dr_willis> cristian_c,  130gb for /boot/ is a little extreme/ You normally dont need a boot partion these days
[21:54] <sherox> bekks: i do not have access permissions to that. I tried sudo cd and sudo ls but neither worked
[21:54] <BlueProtoman> Jordan_U: Right, yes, silly me.
[21:54] <kijutsu> Jordan_U: he was PMing us both sadly.  I hit /ignore and whomever it was decided to jump nicks and go there and continuing PM bombing.
[21:54] <sleyter> hi
[21:54] <sleyter> help me please
[21:54] <BlueProtoman> I didn't even know webchat.freenode had /ignore.
[21:55] <sleyter> i have 1 problem with my printer
[21:55] <bekks> sherox: Did it even mount correctly?
[21:55] <savio> cristian_c use gpart for repartion
[21:55] <savio> cristian_c from live cd
[21:55] <sherox> bekks: yeah I even looked at the contents of another folder that didn't have access permissions
[21:55] <bekks> sherox: Looking into a folder doesnt answer my previous question. :)
[21:56] <knoppix> moin :)
[21:56] <neo_user> thanks you jordan_u
[21:56] <neo_user> its worked
[21:56] <bekks> sherox: Please pastebin the output of: "df -h" and "dmesg".
[21:56] <Dr_willis> sleyter,  give the channel details of the printer type and the problem.
[21:56] <neo_user> also thanks to bennyprofane and all others
[21:57] <sherox> bekks: the file the mounted in /mnt/partial/ had 2 folders. one had pics and files, the other had access permissions so I could not view its contents. It did mount correctly I'm sure
[21:57] <bekks> sherox: So which permissions does that folder have?
[21:58] <kyuubi> hello, i need help. im dual booting win 7 and ubuntu. win 7 boots up fine but when i try to boot up ubuntu it goes to grub4dos. any help or suggestions?
[21:58] <sherox> bekks: well there are two folders total. one I can assume that I have full, and the other does not even let me open it
[21:59] <bekks> sherox: So which permissions does that folder have?
[21:59] <zqfmgb> kyuubi - try rescatux
[21:59] <Dr_willis> kyuubi,  how did you install ubuntu? Grub4dos  is not part of ubuntu last i looked
[21:59] <jmnoz> something seems to be setting my default font in Emacs to "Ubuntu Mono", Where can I change this?
[21:59] <sherox> bekks: how can I check?
[21:59] <bekks> sherox: Just run ls -lha in the folder above the one you dont have access to.
[22:00] <bitcx> Hello
[22:00] <esulu> ciao a tutti
[22:00] <sherox> bekks: ls: cannot open directory /mnt/partial/lost+found: Permission denied
[22:00] <Dr_willis> sherox,  lost+found is a special folder owned by root. so thats normal
[22:01] <kyuubi> dr_willis i made a bootable flash drive and installed it. then when i rebooted it went straight to windows. so i used EasyBCD to add ubuntu to add to the boot menu. when i select it, it goes to grub4. right now, i reformated it and installed linux mint, and the same thing is occuring
[22:01] <bekks> sherox: ls -l /mnt/partial/lost\+found
[22:01] <Loshki> jmnoz: does M-x set-default-font work for you?
[22:01] <sherox> bekks: lost+found is the folder name that is totally unrelated to my pc
[22:01] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | kyuubi
[22:01] <jmnoz> Loshki: nope, it's modified outside of customize
[22:01] <sleyter> inactiva-Filter failed
[22:01] <bekks> sherox: Thats normal. that folder contains lost file fragments after a filesystem crash and recovery.
[22:01] <Dr_willis> kyuubi,  you should reinstall the grub bootloader.  reformating a filesystem will not erase the bootloader
[22:02] <sleyter> what is? inactiva-Filter failed
[22:02] <sherox> bekks: I still get permission denied
[22:02] <kyuubi> dr willis do i run that in grub4?
[22:02] <Loshki> jmnoz: something in your ~/.emacs ?
[22:02] <jmnoz> Loshki: no
[22:02] <bekks> sherox: So do you expect to find files in there?
[22:02] <sherox> bekks: yes
[22:03] <Dr_willis> kyuubi,  the urls the bot gave above detail how to reinstall grub.  a live cd+ the boot-repair tool is the normal way
[22:03] <Jordan_U> kyuubi: There is no such thing as grub4, there is only GRUB4DOS (which we don't support here).
[22:03] <jmnoz> Loshki: and not in Xresources
[22:03] <bekks> sherox: Then get a root shell by using sudo -i and access that folder.
[22:03] <Jordan_U> kyuubi: GRUB4DOS was added by EasyBCD, and you should use EasyBCD to remove it.
[22:03] <kyuubi> ok. thank you both. im brand new to linux in general.
[22:04] <sherox> bekks: so sudo -i cd /mnt/partial/lost+found ?
[22:04] <bekks> sherox: No. Just sudo -i
[22:04] <bekks> sherox: Then you will have a shell with root privileges and you can access that folder
[22:05] <SrPx> Hey guys. Is there a good guide/reference for learning linux commands the right way? Something that explains (briefly!) important concepts such as piping |, this: >> (whatever it is), etc., and lists the most important commands?
[22:05] <Loshki> jmnoz: what about emacs -q ?
[22:05] <sherox> bekks: perfect thank you
[22:06] <Dr_willis> SrPx,  look for the Bash books by Oreially (sp?)   'using bash' i think is the name. ;)
[22:06] <jmnoz> Loshki: "Ubuntu Mono"
[22:06] <SrPx> Dr_willis: thanks!
[22:07] <savio> SrPx try something on linux os book that might help
[22:13] <h0mophobe> Its like scratching a grizzly bears azz in a phonebooth
[22:14] <h0mophobe> So what
[22:17] <Loshki> jmnoz: can you run the debugger and see who is calling set-default-font? Also, can you put a call to set-default-font at the end of your .emacs as a workaround
[22:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Nothing_Much I pmed you back :)
[22:21] <Arpad2> from Software Center I installed Steam, but it fail to launch
[22:22] <b14d3> Still having an issue where, after a fresh install, my machine gets stuck at the "Loading Operating System ..." screen.
[22:23] <sleyter> hola podrian ayudarme a solucionar un problema por favor
[22:23] <Dr_willis> !es | sleyter
[22:23] <b14d3> Unfortunately I've long since reached the end of my Ubuntu knowledge, I have recreated the liveusb, reformatted repeatedly, and every time I get this same error. I have tried installing grub manually and even that hasn't worked. I'm not sure what else to pursue in this case.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> b14d3: Do you have more than one hard drive? Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based boot firware machine?
[22:24] <b14d3> Jordan_U, I do have more than one hard drive, and this is a bios based machine
 entre al foro en español y nadie sabe
[22:25] <Dr_willis> No Hablo
[22:25] <sleyter> please help me
[22:26] <Dr_willis> sleyter,  state the issue. In english por favore.
[22:27] <Jordan_U> b14d3: It's likely then that your BIOS is trying to boot from a different drive than you expect, one with a broken bootloader in its MBR.
[22:27] <b14d3> I haven't actually looked into that yet, somehow. Slipped my mind. Working on that now Jordan_U
[22:28] <sleyter> my problem is about my printer lexmark Interpret S409
[22:30] <Dr_willis> !printing
[22:31] <Dr_willis> sleyter,  chat in here.. and give details if you want help.. we dont like playing 20 questions to get to the real problem.
[22:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what would vga=791 noreplace-paravirt do in boot options?
[22:34] <Dr_willis> vga= sets the res of the framebuffer i thought.. but i thoight that method was no longer used.
[22:34] <sleyter> the printer is already installed what happens is that it has an error: Inactive Filter-failed
[22:35] <kijutsu> ToAruShiroiNeko: VGA= sets the framebuffer in a console.. unsure on noreplace-paravirt..appears to be used on virtual machines to make the kernel realize its working on a virtual machine..beyond that i dont know
[22:36] <jmnoz> Loshki: Thanks, will try those things.
[22:38] <Loshki> jmnoz: if that doesn't work, try #emacs next. Good luck!
[22:41] <anonusername> good evening
[22:43] <anonusername> ninja
[22:44] <b14d3> Jordan_U, you're kind of my hero, and man do I feel stupid. Worked like a charm. It was pointed to the wrong hd and I didn't catch it. Thank you!
[22:44] <Jordan_U> b14d3: You're welcome :)
[22:45] <Loshki> b14d3: Jordan_U: I find http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ really useful for (some) boot problems....
[22:46] <Macuser> How come when I rebooted to finish installing Ubuntu 13.04 from 12.04 I got the CLI?
[22:47] <ubh> please, instruct me and explain (or give links to explanations and docs) the differences of this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614173/
[22:48] <zonk1024> Macuser: Check grub to make sure it doesn't say text. http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[22:48] <ubh> "Desktop" and "Netbook" are pretty clear, the others?
[22:48] <Dr_willis> ubh,  there is no longer a netbook ubuntu release
[22:48] <Dr_willis> Desktop is what most people want for a  non server machine
[22:49] <ubh> Dr_willis:  In terminal, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614173/
[22:49] <Dr_willis> ubh,  you could tell us more details/ like what you are actually trying to acomplish..  Not just giving out pastebins
[22:49] <Macuser> zonk1024: to make it CLI would I change it to "quiet splash text" or "text" ?
[22:50] <tgm4883> Dr_willis, I think kubuntu does have a specific netbook package
[22:50] <zonk1024> Macuser: if text is there then X11 won't load... Leaving you on the CLI.
[22:50] <ubh> Dr_willis: help me choose the version, 'cause I cannot understand what "Low Fat" and "Active" actually means
[22:50] <Macuser> what does X11 provide?
[22:50] <Dr_willis> tgm4883,  theres a desktop/netbook mode for the gui   - Lubuntu has one also.
[22:50] <tgm4883> ubh, you can find the differences in those packages by doing 'apt-cache show <PACKAGENAME>'
[22:50] <Macuser> and would I not get a prompt without x11?
[22:50] <jess10> trying to install ubuntu. changed boot priority to odd is bios, but still goes straight to win8. help
[22:51] <jess10> in*
[22:51] <Dr_willis> Macuser,  X11 is the foundation of the GUI desktop
[22:51] <Macuser> Dr_willis: would I keep quiet splash?
[22:51] <Macuser> if I wanted the CLI
[22:52] <MGMT> Can someone steer me in the right direction?  I have uefi with windows 7 and I installed ubuntu 13.04.  Ubuntu is the only grub option that works.  Is there a grub repair package?  How do I make it so I can choose windows at startup without getting errors?
[22:52] <ubh> tgm4883: Yesss! You're tha boss! You understand what I was looking for!!! :D
[22:52] <ubh> tgm4883: c00l!
[22:52] <zqfmgb> reinstall grub
[22:52] <tgm4883> ubh, yw
[22:52] <zonk1024> Macuser: quiet splash is for what shows up during the boot process
[22:53] <zqfmgb> MGMT: boot into Ubuntu then reinstall grub
[22:53] <Macuser> ok
[22:53] <hanasaki> just upgraded to raring... the amd ati driver fglx says it supports the HD 3200 however when starting X it says it cannot find any drivers for the hardware
[22:53] <tgm4883> !grub
[22:53] <MGMT> zqfmgb:  its not really grub, its that uefi works different than the old bios menthods
[22:53] <ubh> tgm4883: there's a grammaticalkubuntu-settings-active error
[22:53] <hanasaki> how do I get support for VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780 [Radeon HD 3200]
[22:53] <hanasaki> ?
[22:53] <ubh> tgm4883: *there's a grammatical error
[22:53] <zqfmgb> I believe it's sudo install-grub --reinstall
[22:53] <tgm4883> ubh, what does that mean?
[22:53] <zqfmgb> then run sudo update-grub
[22:54] <MGMT> zqfmgb:  I'll try that and *cross fingers*  hope it works.
[22:54] <MGMT> brb
[22:54] <tgm4883> hanasaki, I'd be surprised if that wasn't supported by the open source drivers
[22:54] <ubh> tgm4883: nothing really bad! :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614193/
[22:54] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  it is.. but perf is like 50 instead of about 600 as it was before in the ati drive
[22:54] <hanasaki> driver
[22:55] <darthanubis> >> clnt_create: RPC: Unknown host
[22:55] <tgm4883> ubh, ah, you can file a bug against the package at launchpad
[22:55] <darthanubis> trying to use autofs
[22:55] <ubh> tgm4883: ?
[22:55] <tgm4883> ubh, I think you can just do 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>'
[22:55] <darthanubis> Google has plenty apage with this issue, but no answers for ubuntu
[22:55] <ubh> tg
[22:55] <malimbar> 13.04 upgrade woes - somehow the movie player no longer works
[22:55] <ubh> tgm4883: lemme try
[22:55] <zqfmgb> ah that's right
[22:56] <MGMT> zqfmgb:  the update-grub command looks like it did something.  The reinstall command told me that wasn't the right command.  I'll try a restart and hope that worked
[22:57] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  thoughts?
[22:57] <tgm4883> hanasaki, sec
[22:57] <tgm4883> hanasaki, did you take a look in the additional drivers tool?
[22:58] <clarkm> I have a disk giving me I/O errors. Should I try to back it up before running e2fsck / badblocks, or can I wait until after and hope some blocks get fixed?
[22:58] <zqfmgb> MGMT: gl
[22:58] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  which?    http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/dh-modaliases    is not actually in the pacakge debhelper
[22:58] <MGMT> zqfmgb Thanks!
[22:58] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  how to get to the additional drivers tool?
[22:58] <tgm4883> !drivers | hanasaki
[22:58] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:58] <Sagitt> i've installed the xubuntu-desktop
[22:58] <hanasaki> !drivers
[22:58] <zqfmgb> backup
[22:58] <Sagitt> now how i can change the startup splascreen?
[22:58] <tgm4883> hanasaki, it's in "software and updates"
[22:58] <tgm4883> hanasaki, there is a tab for additional drivers
[22:58] <hanasaki> ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> Sagitt, Have you rebooted to see if it is different?
[22:59] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  synaptic?
[22:59] <Sagitt> yes now is xubuntu splashscreen
[22:59] <tgm4883> hanasaki, no, open up the unity dash and type "drivers"
[22:59] <ubh> bye!
[22:59] <Jordan_U> clarkm: If there are a few very important (and preferably small) files that you can still access, then mount read only and copy them out first.
[22:59] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  theres different Pymouth themes in the repos you can use
[22:59] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  I am in kde
[23:00] <Jordan_U> clarkm: Do not run fsck on a failing drive.
[23:00] <tgm4883> hanasaki, hmm
[23:00] <tgm4883> hanasaki, do you have jockey?
[23:00] <tgm4883> !jockey
[23:00] <clarkm> Jordan_U: ok, I'll kill e2fsck then.
[23:00] <Jordan_U> clarkm: Do you have enough room on another drive for a full image of the failing drive?
[23:00] <hanasaki> tgm4883:   its under kde "software & updates"
[23:01] <clarkm> Yes, I can back it up to the machine.
[23:01] <hanasaki> jockey-text
[23:01] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  Additional Drivers
[23:01] <hanasaki> Searching for available drivers...
[23:01] <hanasaki> no output
[23:01] <tgm4883> hanasaki, hmm
[23:01] <MGMT> When I tried to restart into windows it said error:  invalid EFI file path
[23:01] <clarkm> Should I use rsync to copy the files over, or how to recommend doing this?
[23:02] <tgm4883> hanasaki, probably no drivers that support that anymore
[23:02] <Jordan_U> clarkm: Then (optionally after trying to grab a few important files) use GNU ddrescue to make a full image backup of the drive (or of just the partition if you want, either way works) then run fsck against that image when it's done.
[23:02] <tgm4883> hanasaki, let me check the amd site
[23:03] <clarkm> Jordan_U: I dropped my laptop, then it reported I/O errors on boot, so I used a livecd and ran fsck which reported no errors.
[23:03] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  from the X log...   ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics,
[23:03] <tgm4883> hanasaki, looks like support for it was dropped.  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware#Older_RadeonHD_.28Catalyst_Legacy_13.1_.26_Open_Source.29
[23:03] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  from the lspci   VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780 [Radeon HD 3200]
[23:03] <clarkm> So I started running e2fsck -c, which is about 20% done and has already found 50 badblocks.
[23:03] <tgm4883> hanasaki, I'm not sure where to find the legacy drivers, but it looks like you'll need to install the drivers directly from amd
[23:04] <clarkm> Did I possibly damage the drive already?
[23:04] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  what I pasted looks like it should be supported
[23:04] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  from the page you gave.. looks supported .. yes?  * RS780       Radeon HD 3100/3200/3300
[23:05] <tgm4883> hanasaki, where does it say that?
[23:05] <hanasaki> which one?
[23:05] <tgm4883> hanasaki, yes, that is in the legacy driver
[23:05] <Jordan_U> clarkm: If the drive is failing, which it most likely is, then each read and write you do is likely to make it fail further.
[23:05] <loldog> How do I remove the unity crap?
[23:05] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  define legacy?
[23:05] <tgm4883> hanasaki, I can't. I don't work for AMD :)
[23:06] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  what I pasted is from the X logs..
[23:06] <hanasaki> lol true tgm4883
[23:06] <Jordan_U> !notunity | loldog Please watch your language, but:
[23:06] <tgm4883> hanasaki, whatever they mean by legacy, is where your drivers are for that card
[23:06] <Dr_willis> loldog,  what do you want to use instead? and tone down the attitude.
[23:06] <loldog> Dr_willis: Normal plain gnome with working F2 without this windows 8 panel
[23:07] <tgm4883> loldog, how about XFCE?
[23:07] <tgm4883> !xubuntu | loldog
[23:07] <Dr_willis> loldog,  gnome2 is dead. theres falback modes for  an gnome-2ish look..
[23:07] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  btw,, the amd download does not build on rarey.. it says it needs dh-modalias
[23:07] <Rodrigo> I have a question. In Ubuntu you can't change the mouse cursor without some tweaks, in Ubuntu-Gnome you can't change the title bar of windows. Just upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04 and HDMI sound is not working. My question is whey there are so many bugs? Isn't the system tested before the release?
[23:07] <tgm4883> hanasaki, did you install that?
[23:07] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  it won't build
[23:07] <tgm4883> hanasaki, I literally just built the 13.4 driver on raring 2 minutes ago
[23:07] <clarkm> Jordan_U: ok, that makes sense -- do I just run a ddrescue over ssh, or is there some way to have it work incrementally (in case of dropped connection, etc)?
[23:07] <loldog> Dr_willis: All I want is to remove the ALT+F2 b0rk the screen-hide-everything stuff and get rid of that line taking half the screen with icons and ads I never need
[23:07] <tgm4883> hanasaki, I'm installing for my 7600m right now
[23:08] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  how do I double check the version I am on?
[23:08] <loldog> How do I install unity-tweaker?
[23:08] <tgm4883> hanasaki, the ubuntu version?
[23:08] <tgm4883> loldog, use xubuntu, it's probably exactly what you are looking for
[23:08] <Dr_willis> loldog,  No idea what you mean by alt-f2 bork. and theres alternativge desktops in the repos if you want somthing totally differnt
[23:08] <Dr_willis> and again.. enough ranting
[23:08] <Jordan_U> clarkm: If you use a log file (which you always should) then you can continue at any point, though to be more convenient you might also want to run ddrescue in a screen/tmux session.
[23:09] <loldog> Dr_willis: I want normal gnome. When I press ALT + F2 now it greys out the screen the same way gksu does.
[23:09] <tgm4883> hanasaki, the drivers should say what release they are in the filename.
[23:09] <Dr_willis> loldog,  as i said. thers a gnome-2 fallback theme.
[23:09] <basiclas_> hi guys :)
[23:09] <aidan___> hi, im trying to partition some left over space on my 2tb drive
[23:09] <Dr_willis> !nounity
[23:09] <loldog> Dr_willis: howto install?
[23:09] <tgm4883> loldog, gnome 2 is no longer developed
[23:09] <aidan___> but /dev/sda doesnt exist?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | MGMT
[23:09] <basiclas_> hi guys :)
[23:09] <loldog> I dont mind gnome3, I just dont want the side thing
[23:10] <loldog> and normal windows
[23:10] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  yes ubuntu ver
[23:10] <tgm4883> hanasaki, 'lsb_release -a'
[23:10] <tgm4883> hanasaki, but I've done this on 12.04 and 12.10 too, so it should work
[23:10] <Jordan_U> aidan___: How are you trying to "partition some left over space"? Why do you expect the device name to be /dev/sda?
[23:10] <darthanubis> key ".hidden" not found in map source(s).
[23:10] <hanasaki> 13.04 raring
[23:10] <loldog> I dont get why anyone would want to use half their screen for amazon ads.
[23:10] <tgm4883> hanasaki, what error are you getting
[23:10] <Dr_willis> loldog,  use gnome-shell then if you want gnome3.   gnome3.8 has its own gnome-2ish mode
[23:11] <hanasaki> tgm  but /etc/motd says ... New release '13.04' available.
[23:11] <tgm4883> loldog, that's not a support question
[23:11] <loldog> Dr_willis: apt-get install gnome-shell?
[23:11] <Dr_willis> loldog,  i really dont know what you mean.. i dont have half my screen being ads..
[23:11] <tgm4883> hanasaki, motd probably hasn't been updated
[23:11] <aidan___> Jordan_U: its an OVH dedicated server, there /dev/sda[1,2,3] exist, but i expected /dev/sda to exist adn to be the actual disk
[23:11] <loldog> Dr_willis: and it will give me proper alt + f2?
[23:11] <Dr_willis> and its rather trivial to disable the adslens
[23:11] <loldog> I dont want any lenses
[23:11] <Dr_willis> loldog,  no idwa what you mean by 'proper'  alt-f2 works fine for me
[23:11] <Dr_willis> loldog,  fire up the package manager and remoe them then.
[23:11] <loldog> If I wanted lenses I could use windows 8, it has lenses all over the place.
[23:12] <Dr_willis> I think you are confused as to what lenses do in ubuntu.
[23:12] <dzend> hi guys :)
[23:12] <darthanubis> autofs is not working for me
[23:12] <loldog> Dr_willis: Probably. I just want it to be like in 7.10...
[23:12] <tgm4883> loldog, xubuntu
[23:13] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  wait.. building
[23:13] <Dr_willis> loldog,  so once again.. if you want the old gnome2 look. use one of the gnome fallback/classic mode options mentioned above....
[23:13] <loldog> tgm4883: But making xfce be like ubuntu is a pain, how do I get mouseover typing and scrolling in xfce?
[23:13] <tgm4883> loldog, it's commonly thought that xubuntu give the most gnome2 like experience
[23:13] <basiclas_> hey guys can any of you check out a laptop for me ? Im going to buy it but i want to know if ill have any EFI trouble when i try to install ubuntu :) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-X401A-Intel-Dual-Core-4GB-RAM-320GB-HDD-Super-Slim-14-inch-Laptop-/251207258292?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item3a7d1e90b4
[23:13] <tgm4883> loldog, IDK, I use Unity :)
[23:13] <Dr_willis> I just use lubuntu for an olkd skool look
[23:13] <darthanubis> key ".hidden" not found in map source(s).?
[23:13] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  odd... amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64 says ..   Uncompressing AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver-8.97.100.7  versions don't match
[23:14] <loldog> tgm4883: Why? I can't imagine the use, the icons distracts me. It is like having someone having a seizure next to me.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> aidan___: Since you're withing a virtual machine, and that virtual machine is passing the OS paravirtualized IO devices rather than an emulated SATA disk or similar, you'll need to ask your hosting provider how to re-allocate space on these virtual devices.
[23:14] <aidan___> Jordan_U: its a dedicated server, not virtual :/
[23:14] <tgm4883> hanasaki, yea that is a bit confusing. 13.1 is the release version, 8.97.100.7 is the driver version
[23:14] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  error .. fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.8.0-19-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[23:14] <clarkm> Jordan_U: Ok, from my tmux'd ssh session i'll do something like: ddrescue /dev/sda1 -- | ssh me@backuphost 'cat ~/sda1backup.img' Does that look good?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> aidan___: That's hard to believe.
[23:14] <tgm4883> loldog, some of us aren't limited by our lack of imagination
[23:15] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  where did you get the 13.4?
[23:15] <tgm4883> hanasaki, you'll need the kernel headers. I think the package it 'linux-headers-generic'
[23:15] <tgm4883> hanasaki, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[23:15] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  I have the headers already.. that is the messed up part
[23:15] <loldog> tgm4883: the menu taking ALL the screens is also pointless
[23:16] <basiclas_> any hardware wizards in here? i need help please :D
[23:16] <tgm4883> hanasaki, do you have the right header version?
[23:16] <aidan___> Jordan_U: i dont know how i can prove it? haha
[23:16] <Jordan_U> clarkm: No, because it doesn't include a log file. If you really can't save the file locally it's probably easiest to use sshfs. Do you have enough bandwidth to make this backup in a reasonable amount of time?
[23:16] <tgm4883> loldog, something about one mans trash...
[23:16] <hanasaki> odd.. tgm4883 I downloaded the latest... I thought but got 13.1
[23:17] <Dr_willis> yea. its better to keep most of the screen unused instead of having it all used. ;)
[23:17] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  yes.. I have linux-headers-3.8.0-19  and -generic that match the uname -a
[23:17] <Jordan_U> aidan___: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/partitions and /proc/mounts, and the output of "sudo parted -l".
[23:17] <tgm4883> hanasaki, odd. It might be that it's looking for them in one location but they are installed somewhere else. Copy that error message into google
[23:18] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  came from this diff url   http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[23:18] <tgm4883> Dr_willis, I have all of my windows only take the left 10% of my screen so I can see my background. Because that is by far the most important part ;)
[23:18] <matiu> I'm in the ubuntu install, and I need to ifconfig but the busybox doesn't have it. Any idea on an alternative route I can take ?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> aidan___: Also, the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/".
[23:19] <loldog> XFCE is better
[23:19] <Guest61636> !lista
[23:19] <Dr_willis> matiu,  why are you using busybox?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> matiu: Why do you need to use ifconfig before mounting your root filesystem?
[23:19] <loldog> How do I get ubuntu 13.04?
[23:19] <aidan___> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614261/
[23:19] <Dr_willis> loldog,  download the iso, install it.. is the normal way
[23:19] <clarkm> Jordan_U: The dying machine is a laptop on the same gigabit network. I've booted it with a livecd and am connected to it via ssh from this machine. I want to dump its contents on this computer's harddrive, so I guess I'll use sshfs(?)
[23:19] <matiu> Jordan_U and Dr_willis, I'm installing ubuntu as a xenserver guest.
[23:20] <loldog> Dr_willis: I thought I dist-upgraded, but my login-screen says 12.10
[23:20] <MGMT> I was able to make it so I can boot into windows now, but I have two options in my grub that dont do anything.  Also I can't get to the recovery partition for windows7
[23:20] <Dr_willis> loldog,  dist-upgrade does NOT upgrade to a newer release
[23:20] <Dr_willis> !upgrade | loldog
[23:20] <Jordan_U> aidan___: And just to confirm, "ls -l /dev/sda".
[23:20] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  if the chip is on the mobo.. its embedded?
[23:20] <aidan___> I wont pastebin this one: ls: cannot access /dev/sda: No such file or directory
[23:20] <aidan___> Jordan_U: ^
[23:20] <loldog> Dr_willis: what? SOOO confusing
[23:20] <Guest91600> hello everyone, anybody get pylotro to work with the newest wine yet?
[23:20] <Guest61636> !addon
[23:20] <tgm4883> hanasaki, where are you seeing that?
[23:21] <MGMT> the boot-repair program gave me this link for debugging.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614227/
[23:21] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  on the ati website for selecting drivers
[23:21] <Dr_willis> loldog,  whats confuseing? dist-upgrade does not upgrade to the new release.. it does not go from 12.x to 13.x thats not its job.
[23:21] <Guest61636> !addon
[23:21] <Guest61636> !addon
[23:21] <Jordan_U> aidan___: It's interesting that sda is listed in /proc/partitions.
[23:21] <tgm4883> hanasaki, I'd need to see the context
[23:21] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/1050021
[23:21] <loldog> Dr_willis: weird
[23:21] <bmomjian> Since upgrading Ubuntu 12.04 to Firefox 20, some Youtube videos perpetually stall on playback;  is this a known problem or is there a known solution?  I tried removing .mozilla/ to start firefox with default settings, but the problem is the same;  I see this on multiple Ubuntu laptops.
[23:22] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  its on this page http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[23:22] <Jordan_U> aidan___: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"
[23:22] <Dr_willis> bmomjian,  try setting youtube to use html5 instead of flash perhaps?
[23:23] <aidan___> Jordan_U: ls: cannot access /dev/disk/by-id/: No such file or directory
[23:23] <tgm4883> hanasaki, no, embedded graphics is probably talking about ARM type stuff
[23:23] <hanasaki> ah
[23:23] <aidan___> Jordan_U: There is by-uuid though
[23:23] <bmomjian> Dr_willis: uh, how do I do that?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> aidan___: No, I really did want by-id. It will normally show the manufacturer and serial number of the drives.
[23:25] <Guest91600> anyone know how to make pylotro work in wine 1.5.29?
[23:25] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  selectign the on the mobo drivers gives v13.1
[23:25] <hanasaki> no 13.4
[23:25] <Jordan_U> aidan___: What type of drive is this and how is it connected?
[23:25] <Dr_willis> Guest91600,  whats pyltor ?
[23:25] <Guest61636> !lista
[23:25] <Guest61636> !lista
[23:25] <Guest91600> it's the program that males lord of the rings online work
[23:26] <aidan___> Jordan_U: Im not too sure to be honest, OVH don't really give that info out.
[23:26] <hanasaki> tgm4883:  so this is the only file
[23:26] <loldog> Dr_willis: This is still a ALPHA release. Do not install it on production machines.
[23:26] <bmomjian> Dr_willis: I am enrolling in the html5 program
[23:26] <loldog> Dr_willis: raring ringtail is alpha?
[23:26] <Dr_willis> Guest91600,  Hmm.. last i used LOTRO in wine.. it dident need that.. a few years back it did..  You did check the wine app database on the game? ive not played it in like a year
[23:26] <Guest61636> !lista
[23:26] <Jordan_U> Guest61636: Please stop.
[23:26] <Dr_willis> loldog,  it was released on the 25th. so No.
[23:26] <aidan_> Jordan_U: I can always reinstall ubuntu and partition it through their interface, i was just more curious than anything to why /dev/sda isnt there
[23:26] <loldog> Dr_willis: Thanks for your interest in this development release of Ubuntu. The Ubuntu developers are moving very quickly to bring you the absolute latest and greatest software the Open Source Community has to offer. This development release brings you a taste of the newest features for the next version of Ubuntu.
[23:27] <Guest91600> yeah I tried it with winetricks and without but the update broke it
[23:27] <loldog> Dr_willis: That is what my update manager says about it
[23:27] <Dr_willis> loldog,  it was reelased on the 25th - as in like 3 days ago.. its not alpha or beta//
[23:28] <Jordan_U> aidan_: There is something odd about these "drives", and I've only seen this type of thing with paravirtualization. They may have given you a machine with a hypervisor that's only running your VM, but I'm pretty sure you're not running on bare metal.
[23:28] <vong_> hi
[23:28] <loldog> Dr_willis: Maybe the norwegian thing is outdated?
[23:28] <hanasaki> how do I get this installed on 13.04?   dhhelper is alr3eady installed make: dh_modaliases: Command not found
[23:29] <aidan_> Jordan_U: That would definitely make sense to how they can easily re-deploy os's/etc.  Is there a way to check that sort of thing within the OS?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> clarkm: Yes, I would use sshfs. Do you need help getting sshfs setup?
[23:30] <Guest91600> I posted on wine forums and ubuntu forums, I guess now I just gotta wait
[23:30] <Arpad2> hi
[23:31] <Dr_willis> Guest91600,  you did check the wine app database? and the #winehq channel?
[23:31] <Guest91600> it would be so much easier if someone would just make an entry into plays on linux for lotro and ddo
[23:31] <Arpad2> my audio is  gone, no sound at all. pls could smb give a help ?
[23:31] <bmomjian> Dr_willis: switched Youtube to HTML5, verified the change by right-clicking on the video;  same problem
[23:31] <Dr_willis> Never really needed to use Play OnLinux
[23:32] <clarkm> Jordan_U: Do I attempt to mount the faliing HDD via sshfs? Because I thought ddrescue didn't want anything mounted
[23:32] <Dr_willis> bmomjian,  paste one of the problem urls here for others to verify perhaps
[23:32] <Guest91600> I haven't either cause I don't play any of the games on it
[23:33] <Jordan_U> aidan_: On a systemd bases system you could use systemd-detect-virt, and that has to get its information from somewhwer, so yes it's possible.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> clarkm: No.
[23:33] <bmomjian> thanks
[23:34] <aidan_> Jordan_U: Cool :) well thanks for your help, very informative
[23:34] <Jordan_U> clarkm: First, to make discussion easier, we have the dying laptop and what is the other machine (the one you want to back up to)? What do you want to call it?
[23:34] <clarkm> desktop
[23:34] <bmomjian> this one is very bad, stops at 2 seconds: http://youtu.be/EGVWWsxvh_Y
[23:35] <bmomjian> I am on a 50 Mbs pipe, so it can't be performance
[23:35] <clarkm> I can mount laptop:/dev/sda1 (dying hdd) to desktop:/media/dying via sshfs then backup desktop:/media/dying to desktop:~/backup.img using ddrescue
[23:36] <clarkm> And I'll include a logfile :)
[23:37] <bekks> clarkm: using sshfs, you cant run dd to access the raw device.
[23:37] <Jordan_U> aidan_: Running "lspci" and looking at the brand of certain devices might give you a hint.
[23:37] <Dr_willis> dding a sshfs mounted server would be a neat trick
[23:37] <Jordan_U> clarkm: No. Don't mount anything on the dying HD, period.
[23:37] <clarkm> bekks: Ah, ok -- yeah, ddrescue didn't want to take a remote host as an output file either :P
[23:38] <clarkm> Jordan_U: ok, I won't.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> clarkm: Use sshfs on the laptop to mount a directory from your Desktop.
[23:38] <clarkm> ohh, ok. That makes sense.
[23:38] <Dr_willis> you  should be able to use sshfs and a live cd, to ddrescue a hd to a image file to a network machine
[23:38] <clarkm> I was thinking backward.
[23:38] <Dr_willis> dont forget to use the logfile option for ddrescue ;)
[23:40] <clarkm> It's times like this that I'm mad that I have an encrypted home dir.
[23:40] <Dr_willis> one of the many reasons i dont use those fancy options
[23:41] <Silic0n> Anyone know how to get vmware to find linux headers?
[23:42] <bmomjian> The video debug windows shows the TagStreamPlayer often at 0 kps;  I have reported the issue again to Youtube.
[23:42] <bekks> Silic0n: which vmware?
[23:42] <Silic0n> vmware 9
[23:43] <xub69> Dr_willis, clarkm , the single private folder makes more sense to me, ecryptfs-setup-private
[23:43] <bekks> Silic0n: do you mean "VMware Workstation 9.0"?
[23:43] <Silic0n> yes
[23:43] <Dr_willis> bmomjian,  i tend to use the various flash-downloader extensons to just download the things
[23:43] <excelsiora> what's up? Now that i've installed 13.4, what are the implications of doing sudo apt-get upgrade?
[23:43] <bekks> Silic0n: Then you have to patch the installer or use a kernel providing the specific headers.
[23:43] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  upgrade? that will   just upgrade the system.
[23:43] <clarkm> xub69: yeah, I should've done that.
[23:43] <bekks> Silic0n: I'd just use VirtualBox instead.
[23:43] <bmomjian> yeah, odd this just started with firefox 20;  before that it always worked fine;  has to work for my family, so my options are limited.  ;-)
[23:44] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  do a 'sudo apt-get update' first
[23:44] <Silic0n> bekks: Ok, I'll try to use virtualbox
[23:44] <clarkm> luckily I learned my lesson, now I just truecrypt sensitive stuff
[23:44] <excelsiora> I did N on it, but it said plymouth among others would be upgraded...
[23:44] <excelsiora> what is plymouth?
[23:44] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  so your system is not updated..
[23:44] <Dr_willis> !pymouth
[23:44] <excelsiora> !plymouth
[23:44] <Dr_willis> !info pymouth
[23:45] <xub69> !info piemouth
[23:45] <excelsiora> lol
[23:45] <Dr_willis> pymouth does the fancy ... loading screen
[23:45] <excelsiora> pymouth?
[23:45] <excelsiora> or plymouth?
 Plymouth manages the Ubuntu boot process
[23:46] <excelsiora> ...
[23:46] <excelsiora> ok
[23:46] <excelsiora> so I'll do the upgrade, then
[23:47] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  yes.. you should keep your system up to date..
[23:47] <excelsiora> so why doesn't this get changed with sudo apt-get update?
[23:47] <Dr_willis> because the 2 commands do differnt things
[23:47] <neophos> How do I keep programs from locking the audio device (using 12.04)? Like I want two different programs playing sounds at the same time
[23:48] <Dr_willis> update - UPDATES the list of packages
[23:48] <excelsiora> has this changed in the past few years?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  err.. No
[23:48] <Dr_willis> its always been 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:49] <excelsiora> does the upgrade keep me on the bleeding edge?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> You sould update every so often, like befor you install anything
[23:49] <excelsiora> or do I need to sign up for a ppa or something?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> upgrade - upgrades the system to the latest versions...
[23:49] <Dr_willis> !apt | excelsiora \
[23:49] <Tatuus> i've just gone through "partial upgrade" (for some reason i don't understand) to 13.04... so now Ubuntu says it's 13.04, but is it really? what is this "partial upgrade" ?
[23:50] <Dr_willis> Tatuus,  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:50] <Dr_willis> some package smay have been held back
[23:50] <Tatuus> ok, willis, i'll do that then
[23:51] <the_drow> hello I upgraded ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.0 and I opened up the software updater and it says I'm still running 12.10 and I should upgrade
[23:51] <the_drow> No error was presented during the upgrade and it seems everything works just fine.
[23:52] <the_drow> Should I run it again?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Where did you upgrade from, and have you rebooted?
[23:52] <Tatuus> Dr_willis: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded" -so i'm ok with 13.04 ?
[23:53] <Dr_willis> Tatuus,  you are up to date
[23:53] <Tatuus> thanks
[23:53] <the_drow> wilee-nilee:  The software updater. Yes
[23:53] <excelsiora> how is the openstack package?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, The update manager and you chose at the top upgrade to 13.04, and is the yes that you upgraded?
[23:54] <the_drow> yup
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Are you sure you were not running 12.04?
[23:56] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: I'm running 12.10 http://i40.tinypic.com/30lf76r.png
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Sure but are you sure you were not in 12.04 when you hit the upgrade originally.
[23:57] <the_drow> I'm sure.
[23:58] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: It also said that it's upgrading to 13.04
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Hmm, Not sure to be honest I have never seen this before.
[23:59] <kate_r> hi
[23:59] <kate_r> does anyone know the ppa for Precise security?
[23:59] <the_drow> should I risk it?
[23:59] <Dr_willis> a security ppa? theres a secrrity. repo entry in sources.list i thought