afiestasthere is a nasty crash in libkscreen that will be fixed tomorrow, get ready for package it00:44
afiestasso we can distribute the fix asap00:44
ScottKafiestas: Thanks for letting us know.  All we need is a patch and a test case.02:40
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1162216] touchscreen does not tap - sometimes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1162216 (by foggydude)03:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1162216 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "touchscreen does not tap - sometimes" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:23
ahoneybunhey Riddell04:14
noMoreMrNiceGuythis is why you should use kubuntu 13.04: http://netsozluk.net/why+you+should+use+kubuntu+13+04.html#cid08:11
smartboyhwkubotu: newversion rekonq 2.3.008:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1174223 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Please update rekonq to 2.3.0" [Undecided,New]08:53
smartboyhwAnyone want to play with it?08:54
* jussi nominates smartboyhw08:54
* smartboyhw refuses jussi's nomination (at least for today)08:55
smartboyhwI got a History test on Cold War tmr…08:55
jussismartboyhw: obviously you aren't properly informed... my nominations are unrefuseable :P08:55
smartboyhwjussi: If one has the will, anything can be refuseable:P08:56
shadeslayerjussi's nominations are truly unrefuseable08:58
* jussi hugs shadeslayer08:59
smartboyhwshadeslayer: Proof?08:59
shadeslayerI can't refuse his requests09:00
shadeslayerbe it Indian clothing or feature requests in KTp09:00
smartboyhwshadeslayer: Indian clothing?!09:01
shadeslayeryep, I got him a Kurta for UDS N (?)09:01
shadeslayerjussi: I suppose you'll want virtual clothes now09:02
jussinot that mean09:02
jussiI do have things on my list though :D09:03
jussilike tell me why my kwallet regularly (about every 2-3 weeks) gets corrupted. 09:03
shadeslayerdo you have Neon installed?09:04
shadeslayerbecause I get that with Neon09:05
jussiIm on 13.0409:05
RiddellSRUs: print-manager, kscreen, kubuntu-settings (for plymouth).  anything else?09:05
smartboyhwGood afternoon Riddell:)09:05
jussiRiddell: don't think so09:06
jussisudo ap-g09:06
shadeslayernow I know your password09:06
shadeslayerit's "whoops"09:06
jussicripes, I have this tiny dell laptop, it can handle this 1920x1200 scree09:06
jussishadeslayer: hahaha09:06
smartboyhwjussi: :)09:07
smartboyhwshadeslayer: LOL09:07
Riddellahoneybun: what timezone are you in?  we don't seem to cross much on irc09:48
BluesKajHIyas all12:45
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates12:46
apacheloggerhey BluesKaj12:46
BluesKajHey apachelogger12:47
smartboyhwapachelogger, BluesKaj hey12:47
=== Adityab_ is now known as Adityab
BluesKajhi smartboyhw12:48
BluesKajhi rgreening , the more canucks the better it is :)12:49
BluesKajmust be an auto join12:51
apacheloggerRiddell, ScottK: for SRU no more subscribing of ubuntu-sru?12:58
ScottKwhy do you say that?12:58
Riddellmm there should be12:59
apacheloggerit's not clear from the wiki13:07
apacheloggeror maybe I am blind13:07
apacheloggerseems ubuntu-sru is subscribed by archive admins13:09
ScottKIf they aren't already they will be.13:09
apacheloggertoo much babbling on that page13:10
apacheloggerScottK, Riddell: [ubuntu/raring-proposed] kubuntu-settings 1:13.04ubuntu12 (Waiting for approval)13:15
apacheloggerno-change upload to trigger update-grub for splash fixy13:15
Riddellapachelogger: lovely thanks, needs ScottK on that one13:20
apacheloggerMirv: heya, any suggestions on how to resolve bug 1124149 ?13:24
ubottubug 1124149 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 power button always turn off system" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112414913:24
apachelogger!find 112414913:25
apachelogger!find kernel-img.conf13:25
ubottuPackage/file 1124149 does not exist in quantal13:25
ubottuFile kernel-img.conf found in auto-upgrade-tester, fai-doc, kernel-package13:26
apacheloggerjussi: the bot is working on the quantal13:26
jussinow I need to either invoke tsimpson or remember the changing command... sec, Ill go figure it out13:26
jussiapachelogger: which release you want it on? Raring?13:27
apacheloggerseeing as that is latest stable :D13:27
apacheloggerRiddell: so, I still have no clue why the bug happens in the first place13:27
apacheloggerfrom a d-i POV everything seems to be the same way on ubuntu and kubuntu installs13:28
BluesKajoops , that was neat trick, 2 clicks of the mouse in the wrong sequence you guys disappeared , or I did :)13:31
smartboyhwBluesKaj: You did13:32
apacheloggerRiddell: kubuntu-l10n seems not to be in any package13:33
* apachelogger sighs13:33
ScottKapachelogger and Ridell: I asked slanagasek to review.13:33
* apachelogger heads out before he starts crying over all the complicated issues13:35
smartboyhwapachelogger: LOL13:35
jussi!info kubuntu-desktop | apachelogger13:44
ubottuapachelogger: kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.276 (raring), package size 3 kB, installed size 54 kB13:44
RiddellScottK: bug 1174361 for your attentions15:30
ubottubug 1174361 in print-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "new printers are disabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117436115:30
Riddellafiestas: did the kscreen patch appear?15:30
afiestasrbelem: WIP15:36
Riddellok, good luck15:36
Mirvapachelogger: doesn't ring a bell for me at least15:40
Riddelldpm: are there templates for userconfig in the raring queue?15:55
Riddellhmm, not convinced this is working https://merges.ubuntu.com16:00
Riddelldpm: are there templates for userconfig in the raring queue?16:16
Riddellvolkan: userconfig should make templates, dpm will know why they haven't appeared but he's not answered yet16:31
volkanRiddell: hmm i see. thanks. but sorry to say that again, but the docs files you sent me yesterday also was out of date, right? they are not from Raring templates? Because I could not find some of TR packages inside PO folders even though I completed all of them16:34
Riddellvolkan: hmm really?  that's the ones that launchpad gave me I'm pretty sure16:36
Riddellvolkan: there's some in a kubuntu/ directory for some reason16:37
Riddellfind . -name *po | grep tr16:37
ScottKRiddell: the bug needs the test case and other SRU stuff.16:45
RiddellScottK: added test case, what's the other sru stuff?16:47
ScottKThat's the main one.  It's usually risk of regression, impact of the bug, IIRC.16:47
volkanRiddell: yes that found 4 tr files in: games, hardware, network, office, printing16:49
Riddellvolkan: how about e.g kubuntu-docs/docs/photos/po/kubuntu-docs-photos-tr.po?16:50
volkanops. i now checked the gz file again and everything is there16:51
c2tarunis there anyone here who can guide me to a HowTo to develop a plugin for rekonq?16:51
volkani dont know why there were only en de and uk ones after I exported16:52
c2tarunI remember shadeslayer working a lot on rekonq dev, but he seems to be away16:52
volkanRiddell: sorry :/. my bad. now i have to play a little bit to create doc files from them16:52
volkani found some scripts inside the scripts folder, but probably i need more16:53
Riddellc2tarun: #rekonq would be the best place no?16:53
Riddellc2tarun: there's a few different types of plugins I think, kparts one of them16:53
Riddellc2tarun: what sort are you wanting?16:53
c2tarunRiddell: like Google Calendar plugin on chrome.16:53
shadeslayerc2tarun: I don't think you can write plugins like that at the moment16:54
shadeslayerthere's no framework in rekonq to support that16:54
c2tarunwhen you select a word it displays meaning16:54
shadeslayerthough I suspect there was a GSoC proposal for that16:54
Riddellvolkan: one of the problems is that the .pot templates it out of date compared to the docbook so it's not really possible to merge in the translations16:54
shadeslayerbest to ask in #rekonq16:54
Riddellc2tarun: what does that do?16:54
c2tarunRiddell: select a word while reading any article and it'll display its meaning from Google Dictionary in a small popup16:55
c2tarunno need to copy word and look for its meaning.16:55
c2tarunpretty handy if someone is preparing for GRE/GMAT16:55
volkanRiddell: ops. and probably this will require manual work17:04
Riddellvolkan: yeah, the .pot files need generating again, then the .po files merged in and only then the docbook made17:06
Riddellit's all a mess, I'm sorry for the waste of time :(17:06
volkanRiddell: if i cannot manage it i will copy and paste probably :). no problem. At least I have them now :)17:07
volkanRiddell: btw, what do you think about this patch? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109611/ this is used since a long time in openSuse17:08
Riddellvolkan: hmm not sure there's much point, if you install from muon you can just run it when muon installs it17:11
Riddellagateau: homerun doesn't do the recently installed thing does it? ^^17:11
volkanRiddell: yes, but if you install more than one does it keep all of them?17:19
Riddellvolkan: mm I'm not sure17:32
Quintasanshadeslayer: Think you will have time this cycle to tackle plasma active in detail with me and yofel(probably) ?17:51
shadeslayerI'm working towards getting it up on the N1017:51
QuintasanI was kind of lazing out this cycle17:51
shadeslayerexcept lightdm keeps dying17:51
lordievaderGood evening.18:23
BluesKajlightdm seems to be a problem for some , especially those who try the autologin option18:46
ScottKWould nodm be a better choice for active?18:47
BluesKajthen login from the tty ?18:47
ScottKNo, nodm is an actual thing that essentially just does auto login.  It's not "no dm"18:52
sreichwhat a misleading name ;p18:56
BluesKajScottK, yes inapprpriate for sure19:10
markeyheh, MGräßlin really seems to hate Ubuntu :)19:40
ScottKI can understand his frustration.19:54
markeyyes, me too19:56
markeyin fact we're frustrated too, because Amarok crashes all the time with 13.1019:57
markeylooks like a GStreamer regression, though. probably not Ubuntu's fault19:57
markeyI suppose you might also get a lot of bug reports for that19:58
ScottKWe currently have a mix of gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 using packages in the archive.19:59
ScottKI understand that if you try to use both, havoc can ensue.19:59
ScottKWhich reminds me ...20:00
ScottKapachelogger: Are we switching to gstreamer1.0 this cycle?20:00
markeyI'm currently using the plain defaults. apparently both 0.10 and 1.0 are being installed20:00
markeyanyway, from the backtrace it all seems to be in 0.1020:01
ScottKWhat's pulling in 1.0?20:01
markeygood question!20:02
markeyis there a way I can find out?20:03
markeyto be precise, I only have libgstreamer1.0-0 installed20:04
markeythat's probably unproblematic20:04
markeyall the rest is not installed  from 1.020:04
markeyit's most def not causing these crash issues20:05
ScottKaptitude why libgstreamer1.0-020:05
markeylibwebkitgtk-3.0-0 Depends libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0)20:07
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar)20:09
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1174501] Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174501 (by Nina)20:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1174495 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions" [Undecided,New]20:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1174501 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE" [Undecided,New]20:09
volkanMaybe i can also ask my question also here :)20:10
volkanfrom askubuntu.com: I was unable to adjust my screen brightness and i changed my grub settings. Now I can adjust, but when I disable screen dimming for example, it does not take effect and dims the screen. I changed the values, but it does not seem these take effect.20:10
volkanWhat else should I change to make them use my power settings?20:10
ScottKAh.  That'll do it: libreoffice-core Depends libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0)20:33
RiddellScottK: reading #u-meeting scrollback I'm not sure what the conclusion was on owncloud20:35
ScottKRiddell: The conclusion is we should update dependencies if they are API/ABI stable and security fixes are included (so all using packages benefit), but otherwise we just stuff a copy of the newer lib in owncloud and use that.20:36
* shadeslayer looks at backlog and gets cracking on finishing pgst 1.020:36
ScottKcjwatson is going to write that up for the TB to review and unless someone objects, that's the plan.20:36
ScottKRiddell: That's what you were after, right?20:36
ScottKRiddell: Did you see this? http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/short-tip-fix-qdbus-problems-during-a-kubuntu-upgrade-to-13-04/20:38
ScottKSeems odd to me, but I don't use amd64.20:38
RiddellScottK: I guess so, but what about owncloud itself?20:40
ScottKRiddell: Yes.  That was kind of a given, it was about how we update owncloud.20:49
Riddellso my SRUs should be good to accept then20:52
ScottKNeed to wait a bit for Colin to write the TB and for people to have a chance to scream.20:53
ahoneybunRiddell: I can not mount /dev/"random" on my N721:24
shadeslayerRiddell: http://i.imgur.com/zy5tDUj.png21:31
Riddellahoneybun: umm, what are you running?21:34
Riddellshadeslayer: I didn't know you had so much bandwidth?21:34
shadeslayerRiddell: that's on my server21:34
shadeslayerso not seeding from home :P21:35
shadeslayerthough I could potentially from my Raspberry Pi21:35
shadeslayerbut I barely have any up speed21:35
ahoneybunRiddell: I had Kubuntu Active on it21:36
ahoneybunshadeslayer: I have a Pi! 21:37
ScottKIsn't Pi armv6?  I don't think our stuff will work on that.21:44
ahoneybunwhy can you not install steam from the Muon Software Center or apt-get21:44
Riddellahoneybun: err cool,how?21:46
Riddellahoneybun: probably it's in some funny canonical repository?21:46
ahoneybunRiddell: how what?21:46
Riddellahoneybun: how did you get kubuntu active on your nexus?21:46
ahoneybunRiddell: I used the -S 256M at the end of the last command to flash the userdata so it is not so much of a load to move to the Nexux721:47
ahoneybunit does not mount right though21:48
Riddellahoneybun: how do you mean doesn't mount right?21:49
ahoneybunit drops to a text mode, something about initram and says it cannot mount /dev/somerandomtext21:50
Riddellah right21:50
Riddellso not really kubuntu active then :)21:50
Riddellthat's not even linux loaded21:50
ahoneybunRiddell: still got Konsole to say that it was fully loaded on it21:51
ahoneybunthe userdata anyway before the tablet just froze and shut off21:52
ahoneybunRiddell: how do I go about more testing with it?21:56
Riddellahoneybun: it doesn't need testing now,it needs debugging :)21:59
ahoneybunI can't debug if I can't get it on my device21:59
ahoneybunbbl 22:00
ahoneybunhey Riddell how can I debug if I cannot install?22:26
Riddellahoneybun: well that alas I don't know, I got stuck too22:27
Riddellit probably needs fresh nexus images made anyway, no point in using ones months old22:27
Riddellahoneybun: so poking ogra for new images would be a good thing to do22:27
ahoneybunI was thinking that, the images part, this would be built from 12.10, we need 13.04 images22:28
Riddellis the guy who made the current image22:29
ahoneybunoh how would I get in touch with him?22:29
Riddellping him on #ubuntu-devel usually22:30
Riddellahoneybun: what timezone are you in?22:32
ahoneybunRiddell: EST22:32
Riddellthat means nothing to me :)22:32
ahoneybunits 6:30 pm here22:34
Riddellahoneybun: you're interested in helping kubuntu?22:34
ahoneybunyes of course 22:35
ahoneybunI need to go bbl, getting lunch22:35
Riddelllunch at 6.30pm?22:36
Riddelltime for me to sleep alas22:36
ScottKRiddell: ogra kicked of a rebuild of our nexus7 image for raring.23:09
ScottK(should be there in a couple of hours)23:10
ahoneybunthanks ScottK for the info!23:18
ScottKOr maybe in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/raring/daily-preinstalled/23:26
ahoneybunScottK: not found23:30
ScottK(it won't be unless the build lands there - it'll still take awhile, just not quite sure which place it will end up)23:31
ahoneybunI just say that those images say raring as well23:31
ScottKYes, the first location is the default location for the development series, which raring was until last week.23:33

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