[00:44] there is a nasty crash in libkscreen that will be fixed tomorrow, get ready for package it [00:44] so we can distribute the fix asap [02:40] afiestas: Thanks for letting us know. All we need is a patch and a test case. [03:23] ::workspace-bugs:: [1162216] touchscreen does not tap - sometimes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1162216 (by foggydude) [03:23] Launchpad bug 1162216 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "touchscreen does not tap - sometimes" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:14] hey Riddell [08:11] this is why you should use kubuntu 13.04: http://netsozluk.net/why+you+should+use+kubuntu+13+04.html#cid [08:33] eh [08:53] kubotu: newversion rekonq 2.3.0 [08:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174223 [08:53] Launchpad bug 1174223 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Please update rekonq to 2.3.0" [Undecided,New] [08:54] Anyone want to play with it? [08:54] * jussi nominates smartboyhw [08:55] * smartboyhw refuses jussi's nomination (at least for today) [08:55] I got a History test on Cold War tmr… [08:55] smartboyhw: obviously you aren't properly informed... my nominations are unrefuseable :P [08:56] jussi: If one has the will, anything can be refuseable:P [08:58] untrue [08:58] jussi's nominations are truly unrefuseable [08:59] * jussi hugs shadeslayer [08:59] shadeslayer: Proof? [09:00] I can't refuse his requests [09:00] be it Indian clothing or feature requests in KTp [09:01] shadeslayer: Indian clothing?! [09:01] yep, I got him a Kurta for UDS N (?) [09:02] jussi: I suppose you'll want virtual clothes now [09:02] hehe [09:02] nah... [09:02] not that mean [09:03] I do have things on my list though :D [09:03] like tell me why my kwallet regularly (about every 2-3 weeks) gets corrupted. [09:04] LOL [09:04] do you have Neon installed? [09:05] because I get that with Neon [09:05] nope [09:05] Im on 13.04 [09:05] SRUs: print-manager, kscreen, kubuntu-settings (for plymouth). anything else? [09:05] Good afternoon Riddell:) [09:06] Riddell: don't think so [09:06] sudo ap-g [09:06] whooops [09:06] lol [09:06] now I know your password [09:06] it's "whoops" [09:06] :> [09:06] cripes, I have this tiny dell laptop, it can handle this 1920x1200 scree [09:06] shadeslayer: hahaha [09:07] jussi: :) [09:07] shadeslayer: LOL [09:48] ahoneybun: what timezone are you in? we don't seem to cross much on irc [12:45] HIyas all [12:46] !SRU [12:46] Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [12:46] hey BluesKaj [12:47] Hey apachelogger [12:47] apachelogger, BluesKaj hey === Adityab_ is now known as Adityab [12:48] hi smartboyhw [12:49] hi rgreening , the more canucks the better it is :) [12:51] must be an auto join [12:58] Riddell, ScottK: for SRU no more subscribing of ubuntu-sru? [12:58] why do you say that? [12:59] mm there should be [13:07] it's not clear from the wiki [13:07] or maybe I am blind [13:09] seems ubuntu-sru is subscribed by archive admins [13:09] If they aren't already they will be. [13:10] too much babbling on that page [13:15] anyway [13:15] ScottK, Riddell: [ubuntu/raring-proposed] kubuntu-settings 1:13.04ubuntu12 (Waiting for approval) [13:15] no-change upload to trigger update-grub for splash fixy [13:15] \o/ [13:20] apachelogger: lovely thanks, needs ScottK on that one [13:24] Mirv: heya, any suggestions on how to resolve bug 1124149 ? [13:24] bug 1124149 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 power button always turn off system" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124149 [13:25] !find 1124149 [13:25] !find kernel-img.conf [13:25] Package/file 1124149 does not exist in quantal [13:26] File kernel-img.conf found in auto-upgrade-tester, fai-doc, kernel-package [13:26] jussi: the bot is working on the quantal [13:26] bah [13:26] now I need to either invoke tsimpson or remember the changing command... sec, Ill go figure it out [13:27] apachelogger: which release you want it on? Raring? [13:27] yeah [13:27] seeing as that is latest stable :D [13:27] Riddell: so, I still have no clue why the bug happens in the first place [13:28] from a d-i POV everything seems to be the same way on ubuntu and kubuntu installs [13:31] oops , that was neat trick, 2 clicks of the mouse in the wrong sequence you guys disappeared , or I did :) [13:32] BluesKaj: You did [13:33] Riddell: kubuntu-l10n seems not to be in any package [13:33] * apachelogger sighs [13:33] apachelogger and Ridell: I asked slanagasek to review. [13:34] kthx [13:35] * apachelogger heads out before he starts crying over all the complicated issues [13:35] apachelogger: LOL [13:44] !info kubuntu-desktop | apachelogger [13:44] apachelogger: kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.276 (raring), package size 3 kB, installed size 54 kB [13:44] jussi++ [15:30] ScottK: bug 1174361 for your attentions [15:30] bug 1174361 in print-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "new printers are disabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1174361 [15:30] afiestas: did the kscreen patch appear? [15:36] rbelem: WIP [15:36] ok, good luck [15:40] apachelogger: doesn't ring a bell for me at least [15:55] dpm: are there templates for userconfig in the raring queue? [16:00] hmm, not convinced this is working https://merges.ubuntu.com [16:16] dpm: are there templates for userconfig in the raring queue? [16:31] volkan: userconfig should make templates, dpm will know why they haven't appeared but he's not answered yet [16:34] Riddell: hmm i see. thanks. but sorry to say that again, but the docs files you sent me yesterday also was out of date, right? they are not from Raring templates? Because I could not find some of TR packages inside PO folders even though I completed all of them [16:36] volkan: hmm really? that's the ones that launchpad gave me I'm pretty sure [16:37] volkan: there's some in a kubuntu/ directory for some reason [16:37] find . -name *po | grep tr [16:45] Riddell: the bug needs the test case and other SRU stuff. [16:47] ScottK: added test case, what's the other sru stuff? [16:47] That's the main one. It's usually risk of regression, impact of the bug, IIRC. [16:48] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [16:49] Riddell: yes that found 4 tr files in: games, hardware, network, office, printing [16:50] volkan: how about e.g kubuntu-docs/docs/photos/po/kubuntu-docs-photos-tr.po? [16:51] ops. i now checked the gz file again and everything is there [16:51] is there anyone here who can guide me to a HowTo to develop a plugin for rekonq? [16:52] i dont know why there were only en de and uk ones after I exported [16:52] I remember shadeslayer working a lot on rekonq dev, but he seems to be away [16:52] Riddell: sorry :/. my bad. now i have to play a little bit to create doc files from them [16:53] i found some scripts inside the scripts folder, but probably i need more [16:53] c2tarun: #rekonq would be the best place no? [16:53] c2tarun: there's a few different types of plugins I think, kparts one of them [16:53] c2tarun: what sort are you wanting? [16:53] Riddell: like Google Calendar plugin on chrome. [16:54] c2tarun: I don't think you can write plugins like that at the moment [16:54] there's no framework in rekonq to support that [16:54] when you select a word it displays meaning [16:54] ohh... [16:54] though I suspect there was a GSoC proposal for that [16:54] volkan: one of the problems is that the .pot templates it out of date compared to the docbook so it's not really possible to merge in the translations [16:54] best to ask in #rekonq [16:54] c2tarun: what does that do? [16:55] Riddell: select a word while reading any article and it'll display its meaning from Google Dictionary in a small popup [16:55] no need to copy word and look for its meaning. [16:55] pretty handy if someone is preparing for GRE/GMAT [17:04] Riddell: ops. and probably this will require manual work [17:06] volkan: yeah, the .pot files need generating again, then the .po files merged in and only then the docbook made [17:06] it's all a mess, I'm sorry for the waste of time :( [17:07] Riddell: if i cannot manage it i will copy and paste probably :). no problem. At least I have them now :) [17:08] Riddell: btw, what do you think about this patch? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109611/ this is used since a long time in openSuse [17:11] volkan: hmm not sure there's much point, if you install from muon you can just run it when muon installs it [17:11] agateau: homerun doesn't do the recently installed thing does it? ^^ [17:19] Riddell: yes, but if you install more than one does it keep all of them? [17:32] volkan: mm I'm not sure [17:51] shadeslayer: Think you will have time this cycle to tackle plasma active in detail with me and yofel(probably) ? [17:51] sure [17:51] Good. [17:51] I'm working towards getting it up on the N10 [17:51] I was kind of lazing out this cycle [17:51] except lightdm keeps dying [18:23] Good evening. [18:46] lightdm seems to be a problem for some , especially those who try the autologin option [18:47] Would nodm be a better choice for active? [18:47] then login from the tty ? [18:52] No, nodm is an actual thing that essentially just does auto login. It's not "no dm" [18:56] what a misleading name ;p [19:10] ScottK, yes inapprpriate for sure [19:40] heh, MGräßlin really seems to hate Ubuntu :) [19:40] https://plus.google.com/u/0/115606635748721265446/posts/Bpanfgyxy43 [19:54] I can understand his frustration. [19:56] yes, me too [19:57] in fact we're frustrated too, because Amarok crashes all the time with 13.10 [19:57] looks like a GStreamer regression, though. probably not Ubuntu's fault [19:58] I suppose you might also get a lot of bug reports for that [19:59] We currently have a mix of gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 using packages in the archive. [19:59] I understand that if you try to use both, havoc can ensue. [20:00] Which reminds me ... [20:00] apachelogger: Are we switching to gstreamer1.0 this cycle? [20:00] I'm currently using the plain defaults. apparently both 0.10 and 1.0 are being installed [20:01] anyway, from the backtrace it all seems to be in 0.10 [20:01] What's pulling in 1.0? [20:02] good question! [20:03] is there a way I can find out? [20:04] to be precise, I only have libgstreamer1.0-0 installed [20:04] that's probably unproblematic [20:04] all the rest is not installed from 1.0 [20:05] it's most def not causing these crash issues [20:05] aptitude why libgstreamer1.0-0 [20:07] libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 Depends libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0) [20:09] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) [20:09] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174501] Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174501 (by Nina) [20:09] Launchpad bug 1174495 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions" [Undecided,New] [20:09] Launchpad bug 1174501 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE" [Undecided,New] [20:10] Maybe i can also ask my question also here :) [20:10] from askubuntu.com: I was unable to adjust my screen brightness and i changed my grub settings. Now I can adjust, but when I disable screen dimming for example, it does not take effect and dims the screen. I changed the values, but it does not seem these take effect. [20:10] What else should I change to make them use my power settings? [20:33] Ah. That'll do it: libreoffice-core Depends libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0) [20:35] ScottK: reading #u-meeting scrollback I'm not sure what the conclusion was on owncloud [20:36] Riddell: The conclusion is we should update dependencies if they are API/ABI stable and security fixes are included (so all using packages benefit), but otherwise we just stuff a copy of the newer lib in owncloud and use that. [20:36] * shadeslayer looks at backlog and gets cracking on finishing pgst 1.0 [20:36] cjwatson is going to write that up for the TB to review and unless someone objects, that's the plan. [20:36] Riddell: That's what you were after, right? [20:38] Riddell: Did you see this? http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/short-tip-fix-qdbus-problems-during-a-kubuntu-upgrade-to-13-04/ [20:38] Seems odd to me, but I don't use amd64. [20:40] ScottK: I guess so, but what about owncloud itself? [20:49] Riddell: Yes. That was kind of a given, it was about how we update owncloud. [20:52] so my SRUs should be good to accept then [20:52] lovely [20:53] Need to wait a bit for Colin to write the TB and for people to have a chance to scream. [21:22] hello [21:24] Riddell: I can not mount /dev/"random" on my N7 [21:31] Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/zy5tDUj.png [21:31] heh [21:34] ahoneybun: umm, what are you running? [21:34] shadeslayer: I didn't know you had so much bandwidth? [21:34] Riddell: that's on my server [21:35] so not seeding from home :P [21:35] though I could potentially from my Raspberry Pi [21:35] but I barely have any up speed [21:36] Riddell: I had Kubuntu Active on it [21:37] shadeslayer: I have a Pi! [21:44] Isn't Pi armv6? I don't think our stuff will work on that. [21:44] why can you not install steam from the Muon Software Center or apt-get [21:46] ahoneybun: err cool,how? [21:46] ahoneybun: probably it's in some funny canonical repository? [21:46] Riddell: how what? [21:46] ahoneybun: how did you get kubuntu active on your nexus? [21:47] Riddell: I used the -S 256M at the end of the last command to flash the userdata so it is not so much of a load to move to the Nexux7 [21:48] it does not mount right though [21:49] ahoneybun: how do you mean doesn't mount right? [21:50] it drops to a text mode, something about initram and says it cannot mount /dev/somerandomtext [21:50] ah right [21:50] so not really kubuntu active then :) [21:50] that's not even linux loaded [21:51] Riddell: still got Konsole to say that it was fully loaded on it [21:52] the userdata anyway before the tablet just froze and shut off [21:56] Riddell: how do I go about more testing with it? [21:59] ahoneybun: it doesn't need testing now,it needs debugging :) [21:59] I can't debug if I can't get it on my device [22:00] bbl [22:26] hey Riddell how can I debug if I cannot install? [22:27] ahoneybun: well that alas I don't know, I got stuck too [22:27] it probably needs fresh nexus images made anyway, no point in using ones months old [22:27] ahoneybun: so poking ogra for new images would be a good thing to do [22:28] I was thinking that, the images part, this would be built from 12.10, we need 13.04 images [22:29] ogra? [22:29] is the guy who made the current image [22:29] oh how would I get in touch with him? [22:30] ping him on #ubuntu-devel usually [22:32] ok [22:32] ahoneybun: what timezone are you in? [22:32] Riddell: EST [22:32] that means nothing to me :) [22:34] its 6:30 pm here [22:34] ahoneybun: you're interested in helping kubuntu? [22:35] yes of course [22:35] I need to go bbl, getting lunch [22:36] lunch at 6.30pm? [22:36] time for me to sleep alas [23:09] Riddell: ogra kicked of a rebuild of our nexus7 image for raring. [23:10] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/ [23:10] (should be there in a couple of hours) [23:18] thanks ScottK for the info! [23:26] Or maybe in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/raring/daily-preinstalled/ [23:30] ScottK: not found [23:31] (it won't be unless the build lands there - it'll still take awhile, just not quite sure which place it will end up) [23:31] I just say that those images say raring as well [23:33] Yes, the first location is the default location for the development series, which raring was until last week.