[00:44] <afiestas> there is a nasty crash in libkscreen that will be fixed tomorrow, get ready for package it
[00:44] <afiestas> so we can distribute the fix asap
[02:40] <ScottK> afiestas: Thanks for letting us know.  All we need is a patch and a test case.
[03:23] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1162216] touchscreen does not tap - sometimes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1162216 (by foggydude)
[04:14] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell
[08:11] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> this is why you should use kubuntu 13.04: http://netsozluk.net/why+you+should+use+kubuntu+13+04.html#cid
[08:33] <Tm_T> eh
[08:53] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion rekonq 2.3.0
[08:53] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174223
[08:54] <smartboyhw> Anyone want to play with it?
[08:54]  * jussi nominates smartboyhw
[08:55]  * smartboyhw refuses jussi's nomination (at least for today)
[08:55] <smartboyhw> I got a History test on Cold War tmr…
[08:55] <jussi> smartboyhw: obviously you aren't properly informed... my nominations are unrefuseable :P
[08:56] <smartboyhw> jussi: If one has the will, anything can be refuseable:P
[08:58] <shadeslayer> untrue
[08:58] <shadeslayer> jussi's nominations are truly unrefuseable
[08:59]  * jussi hugs shadeslayer
[08:59] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: Proof?
[09:00] <shadeslayer> I can't refuse his requests
[09:00] <shadeslayer> be it Indian clothing or feature requests in KTp
[09:01] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: Indian clothing?!
[09:01] <shadeslayer> yep, I got him a Kurta for UDS N (?)
[09:02] <shadeslayer> jussi: I suppose you'll want virtual clothes now
[09:02] <jussi> hehe
[09:02] <jussi> nah...
[09:02] <jussi> not that mean
[09:03] <jussi> I do have things on my list though :D
[09:03] <jussi> like tell me why my kwallet regularly (about every 2-3 weeks) gets corrupted. 
[09:04] <smartboyhw> LOL
[09:04] <shadeslayer> do you have Neon installed?
[09:05] <shadeslayer> because I get that with Neon
[09:05] <jussi> nope
[09:05] <jussi> Im on 13.04
[09:05] <Riddell> SRUs: print-manager, kscreen, kubuntu-settings (for plymouth).  anything else?
[09:05] <smartboyhw> Good afternoon Riddell:)
[09:06] <jussi> Riddell: don't think so
[09:06] <jussi> sudo ap-g
[09:06] <jussi> whooops
[09:06] <smartboyhw> lol
[09:06] <shadeslayer> now I know your password
[09:06] <shadeslayer> it's "whoops"
[09:06] <shadeslayer> :>
[09:06] <jussi> cripes, I have this tiny dell laptop, it can handle this 1920x1200 scree
[09:06] <jussi> shadeslayer: hahaha
[09:07] <smartboyhw> jussi: :)
[09:07] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: LOL
[09:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what timezone are you in?  we don't seem to cross much on irc
[12:45] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[12:46] <apachelogger> !SRU
[12:46] <apachelogger> hey BluesKaj
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hey apachelogger
[12:47] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, BluesKaj hey
[12:48] <BluesKaj> hi smartboyhw
[12:49] <BluesKaj> hi rgreening , the more canucks the better it is :)
[12:51] <BluesKaj> must be an auto join
[12:58] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: for SRU no more subscribing of ubuntu-sru?
[12:58] <ScottK> why do you say that?
[12:59] <Riddell> mm there should be
[13:07] <apachelogger> it's not clear from the wiki
[13:07] <apachelogger> or maybe I am blind
[13:09] <apachelogger> seems ubuntu-sru is subscribed by archive admins
[13:09] <ScottK> If they aren't already they will be.
[13:10] <apachelogger> too much babbling on that page
[13:15] <apachelogger> anyway
[13:15] <apachelogger> ScottK, Riddell: [ubuntu/raring-proposed] kubuntu-settings 1:13.04ubuntu12 (Waiting for approval)
[13:15] <apachelogger> no-change upload to trigger update-grub for splash fixy
[13:15] <smartboyhw> \o/
[13:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: lovely thanks, needs ScottK on that one
[13:24] <apachelogger> Mirv: heya, any suggestions on how to resolve bug 1124149 ?
[13:25] <apachelogger> !find 1124149
[13:25] <apachelogger> !find kernel-img.conf
[13:26] <apachelogger> jussi: the bot is working on the quantal
[13:26] <jussi> bah
[13:26] <jussi> now I need to either invoke tsimpson or remember the changing command... sec, Ill go figure it out
[13:27] <jussi> apachelogger: which release you want it on? Raring?
[13:27] <apachelogger> yeah
[13:27] <apachelogger> seeing as that is latest stable :D
[13:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: so, I still have no clue why the bug happens in the first place
[13:28] <apachelogger> from a d-i POV everything seems to be the same way on ubuntu and kubuntu installs
[13:31] <BluesKaj> oops , that was neat trick, 2 clicks of the mouse in the wrong sequence you guys disappeared , or I did :)
[13:32] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj: You did
[13:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: kubuntu-l10n seems not to be in any package
[13:33]  * apachelogger sighs
[13:33] <ScottK> apachelogger and Ridell: I asked slanagasek to review.
[13:34] <apachelogger> kthx
[13:35]  * apachelogger heads out before he starts crying over all the complicated issues
[13:35] <smartboyhw> apachelogger: LOL
[13:44] <jussi> !info kubuntu-desktop | apachelogger
[13:44] <apachelogger> jussi++
[15:30] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1174361 for your attentions
[15:30] <Riddell> afiestas: did the kscreen patch appear?
[15:36] <afiestas> rbelem: WIP
[15:36] <Riddell> ok, good luck
[15:40] <Mirv> apachelogger: doesn't ring a bell for me at least
[15:55] <Riddell> dpm: are there templates for userconfig in the raring queue?
[16:00] <Riddell> hmm, not convinced this is working https://merges.ubuntu.com
[16:16] <Riddell> dpm: are there templates for userconfig in the raring queue?
[16:31] <Riddell> volkan: userconfig should make templates, dpm will know why they haven't appeared but he's not answered yet
[16:34] <volkan> Riddell: hmm i see. thanks. but sorry to say that again, but the docs files you sent me yesterday also was out of date, right? they are not from Raring templates? Because I could not find some of TR packages inside PO folders even though I completed all of them
[16:36] <Riddell> volkan: hmm really?  that's the ones that launchpad gave me I'm pretty sure
[16:37] <Riddell> volkan: there's some in a kubuntu/ directory for some reason
[16:37] <Riddell> find . -name *po | grep tr
[16:45] <ScottK> Riddell: the bug needs the test case and other SRU stuff.
[16:47] <Riddell> ScottK: added test case, what's the other sru stuff?
[16:47] <ScottK> That's the main one.  It's usually risk of regression, impact of the bug, IIRC.
[16:48] <ScottK> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[16:49] <volkan> Riddell: yes that found 4 tr files in: games, hardware, network, office, printing
[16:50] <Riddell> volkan: how about e.g kubuntu-docs/docs/photos/po/kubuntu-docs-photos-tr.po?
[16:51] <volkan> ops. i now checked the gz file again and everything is there
[16:51] <c2tarun> is there anyone here who can guide me to a HowTo to develop a plugin for rekonq?
[16:52] <volkan> i dont know why there were only en de and uk ones after I exported
[16:52] <c2tarun> I remember shadeslayer working a lot on rekonq dev, but he seems to be away
[16:52] <volkan> Riddell: sorry :/. my bad. now i have to play a little bit to create doc files from them
[16:53] <volkan> i found some scripts inside the scripts folder, but probably i need more
[16:53] <Riddell> c2tarun: #rekonq would be the best place no?
[16:53] <Riddell> c2tarun: there's a few different types of plugins I think, kparts one of them
[16:53] <Riddell> c2tarun: what sort are you wanting?
[16:53] <c2tarun> Riddell: like Google Calendar plugin on chrome.
[16:54] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: I don't think you can write plugins like that at the moment
[16:54] <shadeslayer> there's no framework in rekonq to support that
[16:54] <c2tarun> when you select a word it displays meaning
[16:54] <c2tarun> ohh...
[16:54] <shadeslayer> though I suspect there was a GSoC proposal for that
[16:54] <Riddell> volkan: one of the problems is that the .pot templates it out of date compared to the docbook so it's not really possible to merge in the translations
[16:54] <shadeslayer> best to ask in #rekonq
[16:54] <Riddell> c2tarun: what does that do?
[16:55] <c2tarun> Riddell: select a word while reading any article and it'll display its meaning from Google Dictionary in a small popup
[16:55] <c2tarun> no need to copy word and look for its meaning.
[16:55] <c2tarun> pretty handy if someone is preparing for GRE/GMAT
[17:04] <volkan> Riddell: ops. and probably this will require manual work
[17:06] <Riddell> volkan: yeah, the .pot files need generating again, then the .po files merged in and only then the docbook made
[17:06] <Riddell> it's all a mess, I'm sorry for the waste of time :(
[17:07] <volkan> Riddell: if i cannot manage it i will copy and paste probably :). no problem. At least I have them now :)
[17:08] <volkan> Riddell: btw, what do you think about this patch? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109611/ this is used since a long time in openSuse
[17:11] <Riddell> volkan: hmm not sure there's much point, if you install from muon you can just run it when muon installs it
[17:11] <Riddell> agateau: homerun doesn't do the recently installed thing does it? ^^
[17:19] <volkan> Riddell: yes, but if you install more than one does it keep all of them?
[17:32] <Riddell> volkan: mm I'm not sure
[17:51] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Think you will have time this cycle to tackle plasma active in detail with me and yofel(probably) ?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> sure
[17:51] <Quintasan> Good.
[17:51] <shadeslayer> I'm working towards getting it up on the N10
[17:51] <Quintasan> I was kind of lazing out this cycle
[17:51] <shadeslayer> except lightdm keeps dying
[18:23] <lordievader> Good evening.
[18:46] <BluesKaj> lightdm seems to be a problem for some , especially those who try the autologin option
[18:47] <ScottK> Would nodm be a better choice for active?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> then login from the tty ?
[18:52] <ScottK> No, nodm is an actual thing that essentially just does auto login.  It's not "no dm"
[18:56] <sreich> what a misleading name ;p
[19:10] <BluesKaj> ScottK, yes inapprpriate for sure
[19:40] <markey> heh, MGräßlin really seems to hate Ubuntu :)
[19:40] <markey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/115606635748721265446/posts/Bpanfgyxy43
[19:54] <ScottK> I can understand his frustration.
[19:56] <markey> yes, me too
[19:57] <markey> in fact we're frustrated too, because Amarok crashes all the time with 13.10
[19:57] <markey> looks like a GStreamer regression, though. probably not Ubuntu's fault
[19:58] <markey> I suppose you might also get a lot of bug reports for that
[19:59] <ScottK> We currently have a mix of gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 using packages in the archive.
[19:59] <ScottK> I understand that if you try to use both, havoc can ensue.
[20:00] <ScottK> Which reminds me ...
[20:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: Are we switching to gstreamer1.0 this cycle?
[20:00] <markey> I'm currently using the plain defaults. apparently both 0.10 and 1.0 are being installed
[20:01] <markey> anyway, from the backtrace it all seems to be in 0.10
[20:01] <ScottK> What's pulling in 1.0?
[20:02] <markey> good question!
[20:03] <markey> is there a way I can find out?
[20:04] <markey> to be precise, I only have libgstreamer1.0-0 installed
[20:04] <markey> that's probably unproblematic
[20:04] <markey> all the rest is not installed  from 1.0
[20:05] <markey> it's most def not causing these crash issues
[20:05] <ScottK> aptitude why libgstreamer1.0-0
[20:07] <markey> libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 Depends libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0)
[20:09] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar)
[20:09] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1174501] Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174501 (by Nina)
[20:10] <volkan> Maybe i can also ask my question also here :)
[20:10] <volkan> from askubuntu.com: I was unable to adjust my screen brightness and i changed my grub settings. Now I can adjust, but when I disable screen dimming for example, it does not take effect and dims the screen. I changed the values, but it does not seem these take effect.
[20:10] <volkan> What else should I change to make them use my power settings?
[20:33] <ScottK> Ah.  That'll do it: libreoffice-core Depends libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0)
[20:35] <Riddell> ScottK: reading #u-meeting scrollback I'm not sure what the conclusion was on owncloud
[20:36] <ScottK> Riddell: The conclusion is we should update dependencies if they are API/ABI stable and security fixes are included (so all using packages benefit), but otherwise we just stuff a copy of the newer lib in owncloud and use that.
[20:36]  * shadeslayer looks at backlog and gets cracking on finishing pgst 1.0
[20:36] <ScottK> cjwatson is going to write that up for the TB to review and unless someone objects, that's the plan.
[20:36] <ScottK> Riddell: That's what you were after, right?
[20:38] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you see this? http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/short-tip-fix-qdbus-problems-during-a-kubuntu-upgrade-to-13-04/
[20:38] <ScottK> Seems odd to me, but I don't use amd64.
[20:40] <Riddell> ScottK: I guess so, but what about owncloud itself?
[20:49] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  That was kind of a given, it was about how we update owncloud.
[20:52] <Riddell> so my SRUs should be good to accept then
[20:52] <Riddell> lovely
[20:53] <ScottK> Need to wait a bit for Colin to write the TB and for people to have a chance to scream.
[21:22] <ahoneybun> hello
[21:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I can not mount /dev/"random" on my N7
[21:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/zy5tDUj.png
[21:31] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:34] <Riddell> ahoneybun: umm, what are you running?
[21:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I didn't know you had so much bandwidth?
[21:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: that's on my server
[21:35] <shadeslayer> so not seeding from home :P
[21:35] <shadeslayer> though I could potentially from my Raspberry Pi
[21:35] <shadeslayer> but I barely have any up speed
[21:36] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I had Kubuntu Active on it
[21:37] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: I have a Pi! 
[21:44] <ScottK> Isn't Pi armv6?  I don't think our stuff will work on that.
[21:44] <ahoneybun> why can you not install steam from the Muon Software Center or apt-get
[21:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: err cool,how?
[21:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: probably it's in some funny canonical repository?
[21:46] <ahoneybun> Riddell: how what?
[21:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: how did you get kubuntu active on your nexus?
[21:47] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I used the -S 256M at the end of the last command to flash the userdata so it is not so much of a load to move to the Nexux7
[21:48] <ahoneybun> it does not mount right though
[21:49] <Riddell> ahoneybun: how do you mean doesn't mount right?
[21:50] <ahoneybun> it drops to a text mode, something about initram and says it cannot mount /dev/somerandomtext
[21:50] <Riddell> ah right
[21:50] <Riddell> so not really kubuntu active then :)
[21:50] <Riddell> that's not even linux loaded
[21:51] <ahoneybun> Riddell: still got Konsole to say that it was fully loaded on it
[21:52] <ahoneybun> the userdata anyway before the tablet just froze and shut off
[21:56] <ahoneybun> Riddell: how do I go about more testing with it?
[21:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it doesn't need testing now,it needs debugging :)
[21:59] <ahoneybun> I can't debug if I can't get it on my device
[22:00] <ahoneybun> bbl 
[22:26] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell how can I debug if I cannot install?
[22:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well that alas I don't know, I got stuck too
[22:27] <Riddell> it probably needs fresh nexus images made anyway, no point in using ones months old
[22:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: so poking ogra for new images would be a good thing to do
[22:28] <ahoneybun> I was thinking that, the images part, this would be built from 12.10, we need 13.04 images
[22:29] <ahoneybun> ogra?
[22:29] <Riddell> is the guy who made the current image
[22:29] <ahoneybun> oh how would I get in touch with him?
[22:30] <Riddell> ping him on #ubuntu-devel usually
[22:32] <ahoneybun> ok
[22:32] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what timezone are you in?
[22:32] <ahoneybun> Riddell: EST
[22:32] <Riddell> that means nothing to me :)
[22:34] <ahoneybun> its 6:30 pm here
[22:34] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you're interested in helping kubuntu?
[22:35] <ahoneybun> yes of course 
[22:35] <ahoneybun> I need to go bbl, getting lunch
[22:36] <Riddell> lunch at 6.30pm?
[22:36] <Riddell> time for me to sleep alas
[23:09] <ScottK> Riddell: ogra kicked of a rebuild of our nexus7 image for raring.
[23:10] <ScottK> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/
[23:10] <ScottK> (should be there in a couple of hours)
[23:18] <ahoneybun> thanks ScottK for the info!
[23:26] <ScottK> Or maybe in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/raring/daily-preinstalled/
[23:30] <ahoneybun> ScottK: not found
[23:31] <ScottK> (it won't be unless the build lands there - it'll still take awhile, just not quite sure which place it will end up)
[23:31] <ahoneybun> I just say that those images say raring as well
[23:33] <ScottK> Yes, the first location is the default location for the development series, which raring was until last week.